[RBW] Shipping framesets coast to coast

2012-01-28 Thread Carl Otto Wollin

Hello RBW 

What is the cheapest way to send two framesets with racks from Sacramento CA to 
Bilenly Cycle Works in PA. 

The frames are going to have couplers installed.

The box is 54.3 x 31.5 x 11.8 

Regards 


Carl Otto Wollin
  

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[RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast

2012-01-28 Thread islaysteve
Have you gone to both UPS FedEX websites?  You can plug in all the info and 
a list of prices.  I've also heard of using Greyhound bus, but don't know 
anything about it.  Steve

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Exercize

2012-01-28 Thread Patrick in VT
On Jan 27, 8:44 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I guess that is the point I read the article was making.doing damage
 rather than promoting health.

no doubt.  common sense tells me that working any muscle, including
the heart, as much as the athletes in the study do could potentially
lead to some damage.

my point is that the level of intensity being discussed in the study
is not remotely relevant to most people.  keep in mind that the
article (and other studies) recommend interval and high intensity
workouts - this is because one can get a lot fitness benefit in a
shorter amount of time (although there's a lot more to it that).  but
there's a huge difference between 20min sub-threshold workout for joe
average cyclist and a sub-threshold marathon effort from jill elite
runner.

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[RBW] WTT: 46cm Nitto Noodle for Cr-Mo Albatros bar

2012-01-28 Thread David Spranger
The 46cm Noodle is used about a year, but never crashed or dropped. I would 
call it excellent shape. Looking for similar quality Cr-mo Alba bar as 
trade. Feeling the need for a more up-right position on this bike.

Thanks for looking.

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Re: [RBW] Canon S90 Camera FS

2012-01-28 Thread jimD
Tangential Riv content.

The S 90 - 95 - 100 series of cameras are remarkable little thingys.

The wretched excess, clown bike video was shot with my S 90.

These are great cameras for bicycling use given their features, quality of the 
files, and compactness.
Now if only someone would make a digital Voightlander Bessa R4 that would be a 
fantastic bicycler camera.
I'd forgo video for a decent viewfinder.

-JImD

On Jan 27, 2012, at 8:35 AM, Eric Norris wrote:

 There was some discussion on this list a few days ago about the Canon 
 S-series cameras, and I thought I would see if anyone is interested in 
 purchasing my Canon S-90. I bought this in 2010 and haven't used it 
 much--near-perfect condition with a leather case, spare battery, and all the 
 original packaging. Even includes an extra battery.
 
 The new S-100 goes for more than $400; my S90 can be yours for $175 including 
 shipping.
 
 Photos here:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157628817096587/
 
 --Eric Norris
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[RBW] QB Bottom Bracket

2012-01-28 Thread Eric Norris
Anybody have the specs (width, offset) on the stock bottom bracket for the 
original production run of the Quickbeam?

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[RBW] Re: WTT: 46cm Nitto Noodle for Cr-Mo Albatros bar

2012-01-28 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I was considering the same thing for my Sam.
Why not just buy the Albas and see if you like them, then sell the
Noodles if you do.
You'd probably come out pretty close to even.

Jay

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 The 46cm Noodle is used about a year, but never crashed or dropped. I would
 call it excellent shape. Looking for similar quality Cr-mo Alba bar as
 trade. Feeling the need for a more up-right position on this bike.

 Thanks for looking.

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Exercize

2012-01-28 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I remember Grant writing about some kind of full body jumping jacks.
Tried them for a while and wouldn't mind trying again.
Anyone remember the name or link?

Jay


On Jan 28, 4:14 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jan 27, 8:44 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I guess that is the point I read the article was making.doing damage
  rather than promoting health.

 no doubt.  common sense tells me that working any muscle, including
 the heart, as much as the athletes in the study do could potentially
 lead to some damage.

 my point is that the level of intensity being discussed in the study
 is not remotely relevant to most people.  keep in mind that the
 article (and other studies) recommend interval and high intensity
 workouts - this is because one can get a lot fitness benefit in a
 shorter amount of time (although there's a lot more to it that).  but
 there's a huge difference between 20min sub-threshold workout for joe
 average cyclist and a sub-threshold marathon effort from jill elite
 runner.

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[RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast

2012-01-28 Thread Anne
Get the boxes down to avoid the next size hit, sign up for your own
account with FedEx and do it from there. Helps reduce the cost.
Drop it at the FedEx terminal. 130 girth is the max.
A package weighing less than 50 lbs. and measuring more than 108
inches but less than 130 inches in combined length and girth will be
classified by FedEx Ground as an Oversize 2 (OS2) package. The
transportation charges for an Oversize 2 (OS2) package will be the
same as a 50-lb. package being transported under the same
circumstances. . An oversize charge of $45 per package will apply to
any package measuring greater than 130” in length and girth.

On Jan 28, 7:43 am, Carl Otto Wollin carlottowol...@hotmail.com
wrote:
 Hello RBW

 What is the cheapest way to send two framesets with racks from Sacramento CA 
 to Bilenly Cycle Works in PA.

 The frames are going to have couplers installed.

 The box is 54.3 x 31.5 x 11.8

 Regards

 Carl Otto Wollin

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[RBW] Re: QB Bottom Bracket

2012-01-28 Thread newenglandbike
I think mine came with a 107mm. If you're using the QB crank though, 
the 32t ring is going to be real close to the chainstay.  real close.   
Hasn't been a problem for me though.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Extreme Exercize

2012-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I've used: http://www.shovelglove.com/ -- must take it up again, tho'
I stuck with it longer than with anything else except pushups.



On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember Grant writing about some kind of full body jumping jacks.
 Tried them for a while and wouldn't mind trying again.
 Anyone remember the name or link?

 Jay


 On Jan 28, 4:14 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Jan 27, 8:44 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

  I guess that is the point I read the article was making.doing damage
  rather than promoting health.

 no doubt.  common sense tells me that working any muscle, including
 the heart, as much as the athletes in the study do could potentially
 lead to some damage.

 my point is that the level of intensity being discussed in the study
 is not remotely relevant to most people.  keep in mind that the
 article (and other studies) recommend interval and high intensity
 workouts - this is because one can get a lot fitness benefit in a
 shorter amount of time (although there's a lot more to it that).  but
 there's a huge difference between 20min sub-threshold workout for joe
 average cyclist and a sub-threshold marathon effort from jill elite
 runner.

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[RBW] Re: WTT: 46cm Nitto Noodle for Cr-Mo Albatros bar

2012-01-28 Thread David Spranger
Jay, thanks for the feedback. I have the Albatross on another bike and love 
it, so still looking for a trade if anyone is interested.

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Exercize

2012-01-28 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
He was probably talking about Burpees.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Dq_NCzj8M



On Jan 28, 8:08 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:
 I remember Grant writing about some kind of full body jumping jacks.
 Tried them for a while and wouldn't mind trying again.
 Anyone remember the name or link?

 Jay

 On Jan 28, 4:14 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:







  On Jan 27, 8:44 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

   I guess that is the point I read the article was making.doing damage
   rather than promoting health.

  no doubt.  common sense tells me that working any muscle, including
  the heart, as much as the athletes in the study do could potentially
  lead to some damage.

  my point is that the level of intensity being discussed in the study
  is not remotely relevant to most people.  keep in mind that the
  article (and other studies) recommend interval and high intensity
  workouts - this is because one can get a lot fitness benefit in a
  shorter amount of time (although there's a lot more to it that).  but
  there's a huge difference between 20min sub-threshold workout for joe
  average cyclist and a sub-threshold marathon effort from jill elite
  runner.

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[RBW] Re: Shipping framesets coast to coast

2012-01-28 Thread Michael Hechmer
I have two experiences with shipping framesets and both times USPS was the 
lowest cost option, about $30 Texas to VT, if memory serves me right..

Michael

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[RBW] Re: Extreme Exercize

2012-01-28 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
That's the one. Thanks.

On Jan 28, 6:25 pm, Rambouilleting Utahn glam...@gmail.com wrote:
 He was probably talking about Burpees.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_Dq_NCzj8M

 On Jan 28, 8:08 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:







  I remember Grant writing about some kind of full body jumping jacks.
  Tried them for a while and wouldn't mind trying again.
  Anyone remember the name or link?

  Jay

  On Jan 28, 4:14 pm, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote:

   On Jan 27, 8:44 pm, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:

I guess that is the point I read the article was making.doing damage
rather than promoting health.

   no doubt.  common sense tells me that working any muscle, including
   the heart, as much as the athletes in the study do could potentially
   lead to some damage.

   my point is that the level of intensity being discussed in the study
   is not remotely relevant to most people.  keep in mind that the
   article (and other studies) recommend interval and high intensity
   workouts - this is because one can get a lot fitness benefit in a
   shorter amount of time (although there's a lot more to it that).  but
   there's a huge difference between 20min sub-threshold workout for joe
   average cyclist and a sub-threshold marathon effort from jill elite
   runner.

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[RBW] Re: QB Bottom Bracket

2012-01-28 Thread David T.

My Quickbeam came with a 113 mm shimano BB UN-54 bottom bracket. This
was not the first run but I can’t see that it would make a difference.
With the Sugino Quickbeam crankset this gave a 48 mm chainline for the
large ring ( i.e. the middle ring of an equivalent Sugino XD. ) I
always rode in the large ring and never noticed that there was a
problem. Only after a few years did I measure.  I believe the shimano
freewheel gives close to a 43 mm chainline on the Suzue rear hub.

Even if you used a common 107 mm bottom bracket with the Quickbeam
crank the large ring would still be outboard of the freewheel. I ended
up transferring the 113 mm bottom bracket to another bike ( an
atlantis that I am slowly building up as the snow slowly falls and my
neighbour incessantly shovels his driveway), and I then used a 108 mm
Phil Wood bottom Bracket with a Sugino RD crank, moved over a little
which the Phil bottom bracket allows. This gives a better chainline. I
think a 103 mm bottom bracket with a Sugino RD would be just about
perfect.  But once again, I never noticed a problem in the first
place, the drivetrain was always nice and quiet.

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[RBW] San Marco vs Sam Hillborne

2012-01-28 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Just noticed that the San Marco uses heat treated tubing for the big
triangle.

Wonder how it rides compared to my Sam Hillborne with 32s and
commuting loads. Anyone?

Jay

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[RBW] Los Angeles Bike shops

2012-01-28 Thread JGS
Hey all,

Can anyone rec some great bike shops in LA that are riv sympathetic or
just great?  East side is preferable but I'd love to know about any
great ones in the area.  I'm new to town and trying to get the lay of
the land!

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: San Marco vs Sam Hillborne

2012-01-28 Thread David T.
It probably rides in a sprightly manner, playfully beckoning you to
push further. Whereas your Sam Hillborne likely has an assured air
about it, yet retaining a hint of aggressiveness when faced with a
challenging situation. ( I assume, never having ridden your Hillborne
with 32’s. )  Of course this all depends on how flat the road you are
riding on is, since even a slight slope changes all of the angles.

( Sorry, but you said anyone. :-) )

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[RBW] Los Angeles Bike shops

2012-01-28 Thread JGS
Hey all,

Can anyone rec some great bike shops in LA that are riv sympathetic or
just great?  East side is preferable but I'd love to know about any
great ones in the area.  I'm new to town and trying to get the lay of
the land!

Thanks!

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[RBW] Los Angeles Bike shops

2012-01-28 Thread JGS
Hey all,

Can anyone rec some great bike shops in LA that are riv sympathetic or
just great?  East side is preferable but I'd love to know about any
great ones in the area.  I'm new to town and trying to get the lay of
the land!

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: QB Bottom Bracket

2012-01-28 Thread charlie
I used a 107 Tangewith the Sugino crank and 39x36 ringsI
use the White 16-19 on Formula hub and get near perfect alignment
using 39x16 (66 ) or 36x19 (51). I can cross over the combos and get
slight chain angle for 55 and 60 gearing. Using a single cog rear
you'd have to pick which ring you want perfectly aligned and choose
your BB width but I don't think its that important within reason.

On Jan 28, 6:29 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 Anybody have the specs (width, offset) on the stock bottom bracket for the 
 original production run of the Quickbeam?

 --Eric N
 Sent from my iPad2 

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[RBW] Re: San Marco vs Sam Hillborne

2012-01-28 Thread charlie
San Marcos is a lighter set  me thinks but I can't see the ride being
too much different. Too many variables to consider. I think the
Hillborne to be a better frame overall. The SM maybe better suited for
a lighter riderjust my intuition but it seems like it might be
nitpicking even making the comparison depending on the purpose. Do
some reading on tubing properties and you'll soon see there are so
many variables and the differences between one frame and the next
depend on frame size, angles, tube thickness, tube  lengths, tube
diameter.not to mention construction methods wheels used etc. etc.
You almost need to take comparisons on a case by case basis. There is
definitely a difference between a Bombadil and a San Marcos but the
more similar one bike to another the less difference you see in
application.

On Jan 28, 10:28 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Just noticed that the San Marco uses heat treated tubing for the big
 triangle.

 Wonder how it rides compared to my Sam Hillborne with 32s and
 commuting loads. Anyone?

 Jay

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[RBW] Linus Headlamp?

2012-01-28 Thread Ryan Ray
Anyone know how bright superbright this is? It looks nice anyway...

http://shop.linusbike.com/products/linus-headlamp


- Ryan



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Re: [RBW] Last of its kind.

2012-01-28 Thread James Warren

It doesn't get much better than that.


On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:34 PM, David T. wrote:

 This is my new 66 cm Atlantis, I got the frame from Mountain Sports in 
 Virginia. They were nice people to deal with, thanks Steve.
 
  
 I have been gradually building it up, still waiting for the proper tires to 
 arrive from Rivendell.
 
  
 Also pictures of my Quickbeam and Surly Troll. My cup runneth over. 
 
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/51518228@N06/sets/72157629073631297/with/6778455393/
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
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[RBW] WTT: Nitto Noodles 46 for same 42

2012-01-28 Thread PATRICK MOORE
No visible scuffs or scrapes, tho' they've been inserted into one
Nitto stem (currently installed in removable faceplate stem).

46s are just too wide.

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[RBW] Rivendell Related Science Project Ideas

2012-01-28 Thread Frank
My 6th-grader is interested in developing a science project (6 week 
duration) which involves the bicycle. The Rivendell content requirement is 
satisfied, I believe, by acknowledging (and appreciating) the legacy of 
thinkings, writings, and musings accumulated and evolved by Grant and the 
rest of the team at RBWH which have accumulated on the web site, in the 
Reader, and now on the Internets over the years. 

The foundational question to be defined and ultimately answered is What is 
the effect of_on? The first blank is a manipulated variable 
(perhaps tire pressure, clipless pedals, steel, other), with the second 
blank defining what is to be measured (speed, power, durability, etc.). 
Since multiple trials will be involved with controls, and the output will 
be an audio-visual presentation, sign boards, and quantitative data 
results, he'd like to do something interesting and less obvious than flat 
tires roll poorly. 

The folks on this forum always impress me with their interest and 
insistence on getting to why, so if any of you have an idea for a bicycle 
related (the more directly related to Rivendell and their ethos, the 
better), project, or a question that might be answered by an eager kid with 
time, tools, enthusiasm, and a love for his bike, I'd appreciate hearing 
your ideas.

And thank you.

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Re: [RBW] Last of its kind.

2012-01-28 Thread cyclotourist
I was presuming the large frame would look disproportionate, but must
say, it looks perfect!
Is that a Quickbeam crankset?

On 1/28/12, James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote:

 It doesn't get much better than that.


 On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:34 PM, David T. wrote:

 This is my new 66 cm Atlantis, I got the frame from Mountain Sports in
 Virginia. They were nice people to deal with, thanks Steve.


 I have been gradually building it up, still waiting for the proper tires
 to arrive from Rivendell.


 Also pictures of my Quickbeam and Surly Troll. My cup runneth over.



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Re: [RBW] Los Angeles Bike shops

2012-01-28 Thread cyclotourist
Here are a few. Not necessarily Riv friendly, but not your typical
Trekalized cookie-cutter shops:

http://orange20bikes.com/

http://www.bicyclekitchen.com/

http://flyingpigeon-la.com/

Enjoy LA! Hopefully we can have a Riv Ride sometime in the near future!


On 1/28/12, JGS jonat...@jonfipro.com wrote:
 Hey all,

 Can anyone rec some great bike shops in LA that are riv sympathetic or
 just great?  East side is preferable but I'd love to know about any
 great ones in the area.  I'm new to town and trying to get the lay of
 the land!

 Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Last of its kind.

2012-01-28 Thread rw1911
Looks great!  Interesting cable routing...  I never considered that
this would need to be addressed should I ever want to add a basket to
my front rack.



On Jan 28, 7:34 pm, David T. davidtren...@hotmail.com wrote:
 This is my new 66 cm Atlantis, I got the frame from Mountain Sports in
 Virginia. They were nice people to deal with, thanks Steve.

 I have been gradually building it up, still waiting for the proper tires to
 arrive from Rivendell.

 Also pictures of my Quickbeam and Surly Troll. My cup runneth over.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/51518228@N06/sets/72157629073631297/with...

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Re: [RBW] Last of its kind.

2012-01-28 Thread David T.
Yes, it is a 40/28 with an 11-28 cassette. There aren't any long hills 
around here, so I won't even really need that many gears. Some of them are 
just there for moral support. 


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[RBW] Re: Last of its kind.

2012-01-28 Thread David T.
I could have used the usual let it all hang out routing, but it impinged 
a bit on the space of the basket. For some reason I didn't like having all 
the cable under the handlebar tape, so thought I would try something 
different.  It's winter so I have time for that sort of thing. :-)


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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Related Science Project Ideas

2012-01-28 Thread Stonehog
Crank length on comfort?

Mobile Brian Hanson

On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote:

 My 6th-grader is interested in developing a science project (6 week duration) 
 which involves the bicycle. The Rivendell content requirement is satisfied, I 
 believe, by acknowledging (and appreciating) the legacy of thinkings, 
 writings, and musings accumulated and evolved by Grant and the rest of the 
 team at RBWH which have accumulated on the web site, in the Reader, and now 
 on the Internets over the years. 
 
 The foundational question to be defined and ultimately answered is What is 
 the effect of_on? The first blank is a manipulated variable 
 (perhaps tire pressure, clipless pedals, steel, other), with the second blank 
 defining what is to be measured (speed, power, durability, etc.). Since 
 multiple trials will be involved with controls, and the output will be an 
 audio-visual presentation, sign boards, and quantitative data results, he'd 
 like to do something interesting and less obvious than flat tires roll 
 poorly. 
 
 The folks on this forum always impress me with their interest and insistence 
 on getting to why, so if any of you have an idea for a bicycle related (the 
 more directly related to Rivendell and their ethos, the better), project, or 
 a question that might be answered by an eager kid with time, tools, 
 enthusiasm, and a love for his bike, I'd appreciate hearing your ideas.
 
 And thank you.
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Related Science Project Ideas

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Destructive testing in some way could be fun.

A cheaper one would be to test the effect of handlebar height on speed 
(aerodynamics). Find a big hill to coast down multiple times with the 
handlebar at different heights. Most cycle-computers have a max speed 
reading. To be consistent, put the hands in the same place in each test - 
I'm thinking resting on the hoods with the elbows bent in a normal, relaxed 
way, or on the hooks in a full aero tuck, or, heck, try both. Try also to 
conduct all tests at consistent air temperatures and pavement temperatures 
and no wind conditions and keep tire pressure consistent. Plot max speed vs 
handlebar height (stem protrusion or height from the ground?).

Then plot max speed vs handlebar height. Maybe max speed squared vs height. 
Try to find a relation that gives a straight line on the graph. The slope 
of that line would be a useful coefficient relating stem height to speed - 
i.e. for every cm higher the stem is raised, you lose x kph or kph. MS 
Excel is common software that does curve fitting and will give you a slope 
and intercept of your line.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Related Science Project Ideas

2012-01-28 Thread David T.
How about the effect of tread on traction? He could compare a slick tire to 
one with a tread, maybe in wet and dry conditions. There are  different 
ways you could measure traction, some methods wouldn't even require 
riding a bike. The challenging part would be for him to define what he 
meant by traction, and devise a way to measure it. 

On the other hand, at the grade six level maybe you should just let him 
come up with the question, no matter how simple it is? My son has done 
these kinds of projects, I had lots of ideas of my own but I let him think 
of what he wanted to test, then asked him questions about how he would do 
it. He was happy to do the project that way, because it was his own idea. 



 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Related Science Project Ideas

2012-01-28 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Actually the flat tire thing could be interesting. Similar to the 
aerodynamic test, you could try testing at different tire pressures. 
Obviously, at super low pressures the tires will roll worse on good 
pavement than they will at super high pressures. But say max tire pressure 
is 100 psi. What, if any loss, can we expect at 90 psi or 70 psi? What 
happens if we go to 120 psi? Is there a compelling reason to pump the tire 
to max pressure (or beyond)?

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