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What size is it?

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:28:03 PM UTC-7, LF wrote:

>
>
> On Monday, March 19, 2012 1:23:05 PM UTC-4, Kwabbott wrote:
>>
>> I have an early Romulus (RM029) ... I am trying to 
>> get an idea of the value before I list it, 
>
>
> Kevin,
> search completed eBay sales to estimate comps. If you want to sell it 
> quickly, ask 20% less. If you want top $$$,, put it in as good condition as 
> you can, and try to sell it here or on CL.  Happy 1st day o'spring. gdday 2 
> sella bike.
> Larry 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

Go for it, I'm lousy on the phone. 

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:16:51 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

> Yeah I only ask because all the ones I have seen pictured and grants blug 
> post mentions the the new color in relation to the two tt model.   I guess 
> one of us should just ring them up tomorrow,  sounds like a good excuse to 
> not work for a few minutes,  Haha. 
> On Mar 20, 2012 11:09 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>
>> I doubt it..no small Rivendells come with two tts. I presume the 48/52 
>> remains uno-tubed.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:59:13 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>
>>> Now I am confused,  they don't all have two tts though right? 
>>> On Mar 20, 2012 10:57 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>>>
 Hmm..I think I was wrong. The Pre-Sale page lets you order four sizes: 
 48/52/56/60. This could present a problem for my credit card if I can 
 order 
 that gorgeous color in my size..

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:16:44 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

> That is what I assume,  since the indicated only the two tt ones have 
> the new color.  Most likely because those are Taiwan frames so they can 
> eat 
> some of the cost of the fancy paint job. 
> On Mar 20, 2012 10:14 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>
>> The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the 
>> pre-sale bleu's are 56 and 60 only?
>>  
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>> But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they 
>>> would have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube as 
>>> a 
>>> way to keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" 
>>> Rivendells creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.
>>>  
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: William 
>>> Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM 
>>> To: 
>>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com
>>>  
>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale 
>>>
>>> It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the color. 
>>>  
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: 

 Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for 
 pre- 
 sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time 
 to 
 pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now. 
 http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm
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[RBW] Re: Pricing Advice on Romulus

2012-03-20 Thread LF



On Monday, March 19, 2012 1:23:05 PM UTC-4, Kwabbott wrote:
>
> I have an early Romulus (RM029) ... I am trying to 
> get an idea of the value before I list it, 


Kevin,
search completed eBay sales to estimate comps. If you want to sell it 
quickly, ask 20% less. If you want top $$$,, put it in as good condition as 
you can, and try to sell it here or on CL.  Happy 1st day o'spring. gdday 2 
sella bike.
Larry 

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread Leslie

FWIW...  Dave Turner, of Turner Bikes, is running 650b carbon fiber ENVE rims 
on one of his Sultans... Kirk Pacenti has talked to ENVE about rims,too

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

Yeah I only ask because all the ones I have seen pictured and grants blug
post mentions the the new color in relation to the two tt model.   I guess
one of us should just ring them up tomorrow,  sounds like a good excuse to
not work for a few minutes,  Haha.
On Mar 20, 2012 11:09 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:

> I doubt it..no small Rivendells come with two tts. I presume the 48/52
> remains uno-tubed.
>
> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:59:13 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
>> Now I am confused,  they don't all have two tts though right?
>> On Mar 20, 2012 10:57 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm..I think I was wrong. The Pre-Sale page lets you order four sizes:
>>> 48/52/56/60. This could present a problem for my credit card if I can order
>>> that gorgeous color in my size..
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:16:44 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>>
 That is what I assume,  since the indicated only the two tt ones have
 the new color.  Most likely because those are Taiwan frames so they can eat
 some of the cost of the fancy paint job.
 On Mar 20, 2012 10:14 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:

> The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the
> pre-sale bleu's are 56 and 60 only?
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>> But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they would
>> have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube as a way 
>> to
>> keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" Rivendells
>> creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: William
>> Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM
>> To: 
>> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale
>>
>> It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the color.
>>
>> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>>
>>> Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for
>>> pre-
>>> sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time to
>>> pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now.
>>> http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

I doubt it..no small Rivendells come with two tts. I presume the 48/52 
remains uno-tubed.

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:59:13 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

> Now I am confused,  they don't all have two tts though right? 
> On Mar 20, 2012 10:57 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>
>> Hmm..I think I was wrong. The Pre-Sale page lets you order four sizes: 
>> 48/52/56/60. This could present a problem for my credit card if I can order 
>> that gorgeous color in my size..
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:16:44 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>
>>> That is what I assume,  since the indicated only the two tt ones have 
>>> the new color.  Most likely because those are Taiwan frames so they can eat 
>>> some of the cost of the fancy paint job. 
>>> On Mar 20, 2012 10:14 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>>>
 The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the 
 pre-sale bleu's are 56 and 60 only?
  
 Joe Bernard
 Vallejo, CA.

 On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:

> But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they would 
> have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube as a way 
> to 
> keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" Rivendells 
> creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.
>  
> -Original Message- 
> From: William 
> Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM 
> To: 
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale 
>
> It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the color.  
>
> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: 
>>
>> Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for 
>> pre- 
>> sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time to 
>> pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now. 
>> http://www.rivbike.com/**product**-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

Now I am confused,  they don't all have two tts though right?
On Mar 20, 2012 10:57 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:

> Hmm..I think I was wrong. The Pre-Sale page lets you order four sizes:
> 48/52/56/60. This could present a problem for my credit card if I can order
> that gorgeous color in my size..
>
> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:16:44 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
>> That is what I assume,  since the indicated only the two tt ones have the
>> new color.  Most likely because those are Taiwan frames so they can eat
>> some of the cost of the fancy paint job.
>> On Mar 20, 2012 10:14 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>>
>>> The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the pre-sale
>>> bleu's are 56 and 60 only?
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> Vallejo, CA.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>>
 But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they would
 have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube as a way to
 keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" Rivendells
 creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.

 -Original Message-
 From: William
 Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM
 To: 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

 It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the color.

 On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for pre-
> sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time to
> pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now.
> http://www.rivbike.com/**product**-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

Hmm..I think I was wrong. The Pre-Sale page lets you order four sizes: 
48/52/56/60. This could present a problem for my credit card if I can order 
that gorgeous color in my size..

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 7:16:44 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:

> That is what I assume,  since the indicated only the two tt ones have the 
> new color.  Most likely because those are Taiwan frames so they can eat 
> some of the cost of the fancy paint job. 
> On Mar 20, 2012 10:14 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>
>> The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the pre-sale 
>> bleu's are 56 and 60 only?
>>  
>> Joe Bernard
>> Vallejo, CA.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>> But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they would 
>>> have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube as a way to 
>>> keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" Rivendells 
>>> creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.
>>>  
>>> -Original Message- 
>>> From: William 
>>> Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM 
>>> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com 
>>> Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale 
>>>
>>> It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the color.  
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: 

 Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for pre- 
 sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time to 
 pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now. 
 http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

That is what I assume,  since the indicated only the two tt ones have the
new color.  Most likely because those are Taiwan frames so they can eat
some of the cost of the fancy paint job.
On Mar 20, 2012 10:14 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:

> The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the pre-sale
> bleu's are 56 and 60 only?
>
> Joe Bernard
> Vallejo, CA.
>
> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>> But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they would
>> have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube as a way to
>> keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" Rivendells
>> creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: William
>> Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM
>> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.**com
>> Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale
>>
>> It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the color.
>>
>> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>>>
>>> Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for pre-
>>> sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time to
>>> pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now.
>>> http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

The Sam situation is confusing for me. Should I assume that the pre-sale 
bleu's are 56 and 60 only?
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:

> But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they would have 
> shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube as a way to keep 
> the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" Rivendells creep 
> up in price, I get nervous for some reason.
>
> -Original Message- 
> From: William 
> Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM 
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale 
>
> It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the color.  
>
> On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: 
>>
>> Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for pre- 
>> sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time to 
>> pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now. 
>> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm
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Re: [RBW] First 200k

Awesome report, jealous of your dedication in that kind of weather.  I love
that copper color,  same color is had my international done in.  My next
bike will sport the same,  it just suits the rando look I think.
On Mar 20, 2012 8:50 PM, "Brian Hanson"  wrote:

> I bailed on the Brewpub Populaire in Oregon to do my first 200k this past
> Saturday in Bellingham, WA.  It was definitely an experience!  I rode in
> snow, freezing rain, plenty of wind, and ultimately sunshine through some
> pretty country on a relatively flat course (for this area).  No bonking or
> mechanicals made this one a win.  I rode my '09 AHH kitted out in rando
> garb with Acorn bags front and rear.  Not too heavy on the packing - mostly
> liquid food, and a spare wool top, bottom, hat, and gloves.  The only thing
> I used were the extra gloves as my original winter gloves were soaked
> within the first few hours.  I changed when the rain stopped, and my summer
> gloves kept my hands warm at that point.  I ended up doing the ride mostly
> alone as there was nobody willing to go as slow as me :)  I felt a real
> sense of accomplishment at the end, it being my longest ride ever.
>
> Pics and write up prove it happened :)
> http://wp.me/p1kJzU-31
>
> Flickr for more: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyCRrL3
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
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[RBW] First 200k

2012-03-20 Thread Brian Hanson

I bailed on the Brewpub Populaire in Oregon to do my first 200k this past
Saturday in Bellingham, WA.  It was definitely an experience!  I rode in
snow, freezing rain, plenty of wind, and ultimately sunshine through some
pretty country on a relatively flat course (for this area).  No bonking or
mechanicals made this one a win.  I rode my '09 AHH kitted out in rando
garb with Acorn bags front and rear.  Not too heavy on the packing - mostly
liquid food, and a spare wool top, bottom, hat, and gloves.  The only thing
I used were the extra gloves as my original winter gloves were soaked
within the first few hours.  I changed when the rain stopped, and my summer
gloves kept my hands warm at that point.  I ended up doing the ride mostly
alone as there was nobody willing to go as slow as me :)  I felt a real
sense of accomplishment at the end, it being my longest ride ever.

Pics and write up prove it happened :)
http://wp.me/p1kJzU-31

Flickr for more: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjyCRrL3

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] FS: 1989 Deore Canti Brakes (one bike's worth)

2012-03-20 Thread Ryan Ray

Nice condition. Way less than 200 miles on the new salmon koolstops. 
Straddle cables included but no hangers. They don't have the black toe-in 
adjustments these are silver. I'm not sure if that was a european thing 
(bike was from holland) or just not xt.

$25 or best offer + shipping from Seattle.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

2012-03-20 Thread James Warren

But (speaking hypothetically - I don't need a bike) I wish they would have shifted to that awesome blue WITHOUT contrasting headtube as a way to keep the cost down closer to $1000. Whenever the "lower cost" Rivendells creep up in price, I get nervous for some reason.
-Original Message- From: William Sent: Mar 20, 2012 3:45 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale It is a tremendously tempting deal. I really really like the color. On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for pre- sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00! Damn wish it wasnt time to pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm
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Re: [RBW] Re: Pine Tar Testimony

2012-03-20 Thread Hank


On Saturday, March 17, 2012 11:20:35 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I used pine tar soap for several years, until my new wife told me I had to 
> choose: her or the soap. That was an easy choice (the soap lost).
>
> --Eric N
>
>  
>
 
You made it past the wedding? My wife made me stop using it about a month 
after we started dating.
 
I still use it in my toiletry kit at work for days when I ride in.
 
-Hank 

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[RBW] Re: schwable tire rating

2012-03-20 Thread Jim M.

If you're thinking of the Ultremo, you might want the ZX, which comes in 
700x28. I use those with light wheels for my go-fast road bike and they 
have been great. Good traction and no flats. I also have Marathon Supremes 
in 700x40. They are also a great rolling tire, and they have the cushion of 
being 40 wide. It's hard to compare directly with the Ultremo because of 
the size and weight difference. I haven't tried the Kojaks but I've heard 
good things about them. 

jim m 
wc ca

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:46:43 AM UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> All this talk about tires has me looking at options for the Sam I use 
> for my 15 but soon to be 25 miles RT commute. 
>
> Schwalbe's website rates the Marathon Supreme as 5 for speed and 5 for 
> puncture protection. Kojaks get a 6 for speed and 4 for protections. 
> Ultrego DDs, a 23/25 mm road tire, get 4 for speed and 5 for 
> protection. 
>
> Does that mean that the Supremes are as fast as the DDs, and that the 
> Kojaks are even faster? Do DDs beat Kojaks and equal Supremes for 
> puncture resistance? Or is the scale different for road and city/ 
> touring tires? 
>
> Cause if the numbers are as they seem I'm thinking about trying 25 mm 
> DDs on my commuter Sam. 
>
> I am using 32 mm Supremes at the moment, 60/80 psi front/back. 165-170 
> lbs of me + ~ 5-10 lbs of gear most days. 
>
> Jay

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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

It is a tremendously tempting deal.  I really really like the color.  

On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for pre- 
> sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time to 
> pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now. 
> http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread tarik saleh

All,

It is pretty reasonable to assume 650c rim size in this case. I would
not bet against sdt swiss doing a run of 650B tubular rims though.

The tires are easy in 26", 650b or 650c, the hard part is the rims.
Mountain bike pro's have used 650C tri carbon rims with hand made 650c
tubular tires by Dugast or others at races before. Frischknecht used
them in the Athens olympics, and others since. Frischy is the team
manager on that scott team that  schurter rides for, so it is an
entirely reasonable speculation as it has been done before.

The argument is:
1. You can buy an off the shelf 650c tubular rim from the tri market
2. Put a handmade 650c fat MTB Dugast tubular on it
3. Just like Frischy did before
4. And not have to tool up to make a new carbon tubular 650b rim.
5. Call it 650B or C, it does not matter as it is all one off custom
stuff and they both will fit any bike.

There is a thread on the 2004 tires here:
http://forums.mtbr.com/29er-bikes/650c-mtb-wheels-40581.html

There was a velonews tech article, but velonews keeps changing all
their old links, so no go, it was at:
http://velonews.com/tech/report/articles/7140.0.html

There is no 559 tubular component to the argument at all.

 I dont think it is out of the realm of possibility to have some
special race made 650B carbon tubular rims, but the short path to
success here is to take an extant rim and gert your high end custom
tire made to fit.

Later

Tarik

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 2:23 PM, William  wrote:
> Here's a GEAX tubular tire in 559.  Well, 26x2.0, presumably 559-52
>
> http://www.hucknroll.com/geax-saguaro-mountain-bike-tire-tubular
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:05:38 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>>
>> Jan is simply wrong about 26 inch tubulars - ENVE makes them and
>> Duguast makes a 26" tubular on a non-custom basis.  I think GEAX makes
>> 26" tubular rims/tires too.  If his speculation was based off that,
>> he's even more likely to be wrong.  Again, just doesn't make any sense
>> for Nino to be riding 650c, all things considered - especially DT's
>> intentions regarding 650b.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread newenglandbike

I'm always glad to see more positive exposure for 650b as well, since I 
agree that it is only natural to have a prominent size option to fill the 
relatively huge gap between 559 and 622 in a market where people sweat 
1/2-degree ST/HT angle diffs and fraction-of-a-cm top tube and chainstay 
increments.I just hope there continue to be good 650b rims for those of 
us who don't race and prefer rim-brakes.


-Matt


On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:13:43 PM UTC-4, John Speare wrote:
>
>  Agreed, I’m looking forward to:
>
> -  That same 40mm knobbie
>
> -  Better selection of XC-style sus forks for 584 (heresy on this 
> list, I know!)
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *William
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:04 AM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.
>
>  
>
> The speculation is that there have been carbon tubular 650c rims in the 
> Tri-community for years, and mountain tubulars to fit same, for years. 
>  That's been common in the mountain bike racing community.  Not dominant, 
> but not unheard of.  It's obviously possible that DT swiss made a 584 
> prototype, and that Dugast made a tire to fit it.  
>  
>  
>  
> I don't have any first hand info on any of this.  I ride 584 with fervor, 
> and am committed to the wheelsize.  The fact that the industry will be 
> making a push to bring it into the mainstream is great in my book.  It's 
> hard to predict how it'll make my life more convenient.  At least it will 
> mean more shops will stock the tubes and the spokes that I may need.  Since 
> most of the new wave of bikes will have disc brakes, we may not see a lot 
> of rims for the rest of us.  Besides tubes and spokes, the next thing I'm 
> hoping for is a ~40mm knobby, like a 650B cyclocross tire.  That would be 
> kind of fun.
>
> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:49:23 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 12:56 pm, William  wrote: 
> > There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's 
> far 
> > more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?  Nobody 
> among 
> > the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is about to launch a 
> > bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that 584 wins races, 
> even 
> > if Nino's bike isn't 584. 
>
> why would it be 650c?  that doesn't make any sense.  DT swiss has 
> confirmed that they're working on 650b wheels and it would make sense 
> that Nino was on prototypes (his whole bike was a prototype).  Given 
> the cost of prototyping everything - and the positive feedback from 
> guys like Nino - I think it's a pretty good indication that DT and 
> Scott will probably throw their hat in the 650b ring.  why one-off a 
> 650c bike?
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:49:23 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 12:56 pm, William  wrote: 
> > There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's 
> far 
> > more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?  Nobody 
> among 
> > the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is about to launch a 
> > bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that 584 wins races, 
> even 
> > if Nino's bike isn't 584. 
>
> why would it be 650c?  that doesn't make any sense.  DT swiss has 
> confirmed that they're working on 650b wheels and it would make sense 
> that Nino was on prototypes (his whole bike was a prototype).  Given 
> the cost of prototyping everything - and the positive feedback from 
> guys like Nino - I think it's a pretty good indication that DT and 
> Scott will probably throw their hat in the 650b ring.  why one-off a 
> 650c bike?
>  
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[RBW] WTT: tail lights

I have this: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5722090112928815666

(https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5722090116585011634)

Am looking for this:
https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#5722089963984166114

Also, once again, am ISO 60 mm fenders, plastic, black, either rear
only or pair.

Thanks. Reply offist.

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[RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

Jan retracted that part of his post, in which he claimed that 559 tubular 
rims and/or tires did not exist.  He rewrote it to focus on the point he 
was trying to make.

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:05:38 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>
> Jan is simply wrong about 26 inch tubulars - ENVE makes them and 
> Duguast makes a 26" tubular on a non-custom basis.  I think GEAX makes 
> 26" tubular rims/tires too.  If his speculation was based off that, 
> he's even more likely to be wrong.  Again, just doesn't make any sense 
> for Nino to be riding 650c, all things considered - especially DT's 
> intentions regarding 650b. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

Here's a GEAX tubular tire in 559.  Well, 26x2.0, presumably 559-52

http://www.hucknroll.com/geax-saguaro-mountain-bike-tire-tubular 



On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:05:38 PM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>
> Jan is simply wrong about 26 inch tubulars - ENVE makes them and 
> Duguast makes a 26" tubular on a non-custom basis.  I think GEAX makes 
> 26" tubular rims/tires too.  If his speculation was based off that, 
> he's even more likely to be wrong.  Again, just doesn't make any sense 
> for Nino to be riding 650c, all things considered - especially DT's 
> intentions regarding 650b. 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 13:05 -0700, Patrick in VT wrote:
> Jan is simply wrong about 26 inch tubulars - ENVE makes them and
> Duguast makes a 26" tubular on a non-custom basis.  I think GEAX makes
> 26" tubular rims/tires too.  If his speculation was based off that,
> he's even more likely to be wrong.  Again, just doesn't make any sense
> for Nino to be riding 650c, all things considered - especially DT's
> intentions regarding 650b.

When you say "26 inch tubulars" are you talking about MTB/559 26 inch,
or do you mean 26x1 1/2/584/650B?   



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[RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread Patrick in VT

Jan is simply wrong about 26 inch tubulars - ENVE makes them and
Duguast makes a 26" tubular on a non-custom basis.  I think GEAX makes
26" tubular rims/tires too.  If his speculation was based off that,
he's even more likely to be wrong.  Again, just doesn't make any sense
for Nino to be riding 650c, all things considered - especially DT's
intentions regarding 650b.







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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

It was Jan Heine who said it.  Maybe he's wrong.  I did not fact check.  

http://janheine.wordpress.com/ 

Direct quote:

" So I suspect that Schurter was riding on 571 mm (650C) wheels, simply 
because making custom carbon rims in 584 mm (650B) would be very expensive 
and difficult. "



On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:19:25 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 09:56 -0700, William wrote:
> > There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's
> > far more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?
> > Nobody among the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is
> > about to launch a bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that
> > 584 wins races, even if Nino's bike isn't 584. 
>
> I do not believe there are any wide knobby 650C tires in existence.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Tue, 2012-03-20 at 09:56 -0700, William wrote:
> There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's
> far more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?
> Nobody among the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is
> about to launch a bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that
> 584 wins races, even if Nino's bike isn't 584. 

I do not believe there are any wide knobby 650C tires in existence.



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RE: [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread John Speare

Agreed, I'm looking forward to:

-  That same 40mm knobbie

-  Better selection of XC-style sus forks for 584 (heresy on this list, 
I know!)

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Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:04 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

The speculation is that there have been carbon tubular 650c rims in the 
Tri-community for years, and mountain tubulars to fit same, for years.  That's 
been common in the mountain bike racing community.  Not dominant, but not 
unheard of.  It's obviously possible that DT swiss made a 584 prototype, and 
that Dugast made a tire to fit it.

I don't have any first hand info on any of this.  I ride 584 with fervor, and 
am committed to the wheelsize.  The fact that the industry will be making a 
push to bring it into the mainstream is great in my book.  It's hard to predict 
how it'll make my life more convenient.  At least it will mean more shops will 
stock the tubes and the spokes that I may need.  Since most of the new wave of 
bikes will have disc brakes, we may not see a lot of rims for the rest of us.  
Besides tubes and spokes, the next thing I'm hoping for is a ~40mm knobby, like 
a 650B cyclocross tire.  That would be kind of fun.

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:49:23 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
On Mar 20, 12:56 pm, William mailto:tapebu...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
> There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's far
> more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?  Nobody among
> the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is about to launch a
> bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that 584 wins races, even
> if Nino's bike isn't 584.

why would it be 650c?  that doesn't make any sense.  DT swiss has
confirmed that they're working on 650b wheels and it would make sense
that Nino was on prototypes (his whole bike was a prototype).  Given
the cost of prototyping everything - and the positive feedback from
guys like Nino - I think it's a pretty good indication that DT and
Scott will probably throw their hat in the 650b ring.  why one-off a
650c bike?

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:49:23 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
On Mar 20, 12:56 pm, William mailto:tapebu...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:
> There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's far
> more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?  Nobody among
> the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is about to launch a
> bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that 584 wins races, even
> if Nino's bike isn't 584.

why would it be 650c?  that doesn't make any sense.  DT swiss has
confirmed that they're working on 650b wheels and it would make sense
that Nino was on prototypes (his whole bike was a prototype).  Given
the cost of prototyping everything - and the positive feedback from
guys like Nino - I think it's a pretty good indication that DT and
Scott will probably throw their hat in the 650b ring.  why one-off a
650c bike?
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[RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

The speculation is that there have been carbon tubular 650c rims in the 
Tri-community for years, and mountain tubulars to fit same, for years. 
 That's been common in the mountain bike racing community.  Not dominant, 
but not unheard of.  It's obviously possible that DT swiss made a 584 
prototype, and that Dugast made a tire to fit it.  

I don't have any first hand info on any of this.  I ride 584 with fervor, 
and am committed to the wheelsize.  The fact that the industry will be 
making a push to bring it into the mainstream is great in my book.  It's 
hard to predict how it'll make my life more convenient.  At least it will 
mean more shops will stock the tubes and the spokes that I may need.  Since 
most of the new wave of bikes will have disc brakes, we may not see a lot 
of rims for the rest of us.  Besides tubes and spokes, the next thing I'm 
hoping for is a ~40mm knobby, like a 650B cyclocross tire.  That would be 
kind of fun.

On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:49:23 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 12:56 pm, William  wrote: 
> > There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's 
> far 
> > more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?  Nobody 
> among 
> > the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is about to launch a 
> > bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that 584 wins races, 
> even 
> > if Nino's bike isn't 584. 
>
> why would it be 650c?  that doesn't make any sense.  DT swiss has 
> confirmed that they're working on 650b wheels and it would make sense 
> that Nino was on prototypes (his whole bike was a prototype).  Given 
> the cost of prototyping everything - and the positive feedback from 
> guys like Nino - I think it's a pretty good indication that DT and 
> Scott will probably throw their hat in the 650b ring.  why one-off a 
> 650c bike?


On Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:49:23 AM UTC-7, Patrick in VT wrote:
>
> On Mar 20, 12:56 pm, William  wrote: 
> > There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's 
> far 
> > more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?  Nobody 
> among 
> > the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is about to launch a 
> > bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that 584 wins races, 
> even 
> > if Nino's bike isn't 584. 
>
> why would it be 650c?  that doesn't make any sense.  DT swiss has 
> confirmed that they're working on 650b wheels and it would make sense 
> that Nino was on prototypes (his whole bike was a prototype).  Given 
> the cost of prototyping everything - and the positive feedback from 
> guys like Nino - I think it's a pretty good indication that DT and 
> Scott will probably throw their hat in the 650b ring.  why one-off a 
> 650c bike?

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Readers for sale

2012-03-20 Thread Philip Williamson

All the readers, catalogs, and ephemera are gone. Thanks for helping
me clear stuff out! And thanks to the eBay auction that just ended to
help me price it. ("Are you kidding? These things are PRICELESS!")

Next up, Bicycle Quarterlies. Research is in order.
 Philip

Philip Williamson
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On Mar 19, 7:29 am, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> I got all my Readers together to sell - I have gotten a great deal of
> pleasure and information from these. They're formative, informative,
> and subversive. 30 or so Readers ($50), 20 or so Catalogs, Flyers and
> Other ($30). Two Bridgestone catalogs ($10). Full listing 
> here:http://www.biketinker.com/2012/rambles/rivendell-propaganda-for-sale/
>
> If we're replete here with our printed Rivendellia, I'll try eBay (I
> just now put up my first listings (obsolete camera gear)).
>
>  Philip
>
> Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread Patrick in VT

On Mar 20, 12:56 pm, William  wrote:
> There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's far
> more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?  Nobody among
> the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is about to launch a
> bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that 584 wins races, even
> if Nino's bike isn't 584.

why would it be 650c?  that doesn't make any sense.  DT swiss has
confirmed that they're working on 650b wheels and it would make sense
that Nino was on prototypes (his whole bike was a prototype).  Given
the cost of prototyping everything - and the positive feedback from
guys like Nino - I think it's a pretty good indication that DT and
Scott will probably throw their hat in the 650b ring.  why one-off a
650c bike?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

2012-03-20 Thread Larry Schellhase

I have a 99 VW Eurovan Camper which does a great job of hauling two bikes
and two people.
Lots of bikers I know have Honda Elements. Two or three bikes easily fit in
the rear with two passengers up front. Too bad they stopped making it.

Larry
LA CA

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench  wrote:

> Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW
>> Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine
>> cause VW stopped importing those).
>>
> I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great
> and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside!
> :-)
>
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[RBW] Re: Wool knickers and more for sale

2012-03-20 Thread Philip Williamson

The MUSA and wool BF knickers are sold, and I've dropped the price on
the rest by 10%. I may keep doing that, I may just keep them.
http://www.biketinker.com/2012/rambles/bike-knickers-for-sale-price-drop/

I also have matching Banana Bag and Little Joe. Both together $110
shipped. Beausaged. Duluth Pack. Both original straps for the Banana
Bag, none (or funky black ones) for the Little Joe.
On the bike pic: http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/6287837491/
more pics later when I put up the blog post about 'em.

Paypal or cash at Pedal Nation on Saturday,
 Philip

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On Mar 11, 9:43 pm, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> Two wool Bicycle Fixationknickersspoken for so far. Leaving cotton,MUSAand 
> hempknickersas well as the random woolness.
>
>  Philip
>
> On Mar 11, 12:01 pm, Philip Williamson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi all - I have someknickersfor sale; Bicycle Fixations (3),MUSA
> > (1), ChicagoWig(2), Premier Designs (1), military surplus (1), plus
> > a tweed-friendly sweater and a pair of heavy wool pants. All size 38
> > waist, or "XL," except the sweater, which is a Large. I'm 6'2", 230
> > lbs
>
> > Shipping is included in these continental United States.
>
> >  Fancy Duds: Buy all the Fancies for $160 shipped
> > Banana Republic light wool sweater, brown check (L): $15 shipped.
> > [SPOKEN FOR] Bicycle Fixations charcoal woolknickers(38): $60 shipped
> > [SPOKEN FOR]  Bicycle Fixations black woolknickers(38): $60 shipped
> > Premier Designs cotton "Plus Twos" (38): $60 shipped
>
> >  Casual Duds: Buy all the Casuals for $160 shipped
> > Bicycle Fixations greenish-khaki HEMPknickers(38): $50 shipped
> >MUSAbutternutknickersXL: $30 shipped
> > Military Surplus cotton?knickers(38): $30 shipped
> > Military Surplus Swedish wool pants (38): $20 shipped
> > ChicagoWigAmerican BDUs (38) velcro knee closure: $25 shipped
> > ChicagoWigChinese BDUs (38) string knee closure: $20 shipped
>
> > Get the whole shootin' match for $300 shipped. If my prices are not
> > congruent with reality, let me know.
> > Paypal is my preference.
>
> > Pictures:http://www.flickr.com/photos/philipwilliamson/sets/72157629561932695/...
>
> > Thanks for looking!
> >  Philip
>
> > Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com

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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

One word: Citroen Acadiane.

https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/Acadiane#5720999573577885634

Carries my Ken Rogers tricycle with no need for disassembly.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Rex Kerr  wrote:
> I find that carrying my big bikes in/on vehicles is a pain...
>
> They're too tall to fit IN the car -- with the front wheel off, my 67 cm AHH
> BARELY fits in the back of my Subaru Outback with the seats down.
>
> They're too accessorized to fit ON the car -- fender or front lowrider rack
> prevents using fork mount racks, water bottle cages prevent using downtube
> mount racks, fenders prevent using over the tire type racks, etc.
>
> I've always hated hitch mounted racks, though I do have one... problem is, I
> don't have a receiver hitch on my Subie.
>
> I did manage to get some of my bikes to work on a fork mount by removing the
> wheel tray and leaving just the fork mount bolted to the front crossbar, and
> just cinch the rear wheel down to the rear crossbar, with the bars spaced
> exactly for the wheelbase of my bikes.   Having the tray removed allows the
> fender to drop down below the crossbar, BARELY clearing the roof, though
> requiring the mudflap to be bent back.
>
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW
>>> Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine
>>> cause VW stopped importing those).
>>
>> I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great
>> and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside!
>> :-)
>>
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[RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

There's rampant speculation that Nino's bike isn't 650B at all.  It's far 
more likely that it's 650C.  Who cares between 571 and 584?  Nobody among 
the converted.  It's just now that the mainstream is about to launch a 
bunch of 584 mountain bikes, they want to claim that 584 wins races, even 
if Nino's bike isn't 584.  

On Monday, March 19, 2012 9:11:31 AM UTC-7, jeffrey kane wrote:
>
>
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/nino-schurter-wins-world-cup-1-on-650b-wheels
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

2012-03-20 Thread Rex Kerr

I find that carrying my big bikes in/on vehicles is a pain...

They're too tall to fit IN the car -- with the front wheel off, my 67 cm
AHH BARELY fits in the back of my Subaru Outback with the seats down.

They're too accessorized to fit ON the car -- fender or front lowrider rack
prevents using fork mount racks, water bottle cages prevent using downtube
mount racks, fenders prevent using over the tire type racks, etc.

I've always hated hitch mounted racks, though I do have one... problem is,
I don't have a receiver hitch on my Subie.

I did manage to get some of my bikes to work on a fork mount by removing
the wheel tray and leaving just the fork mount bolted to the front
crossbar, and just cinch the rear wheel down to the rear crossbar, with the
bars spaced exactly for the wheelbase of my bikes.   Having the tray
removed allows the fender to drop down below the crossbar, BARELY clearing
the roof, though requiring the mudflap to be bent back.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 9:08 AM, davidfrench  wrote:

> Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW
>> Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine
>> cause VW stopped importing those).
>>
> I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great
> and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside!
> :-)
>
>
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[RBW] Re: New Sam Hillborne Color Pre-Sale

2012-03-20 Thread Bill

That's mighty close to "pencil blue":

http://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/1659288315/in/pool-70497321@N00/
 

Awesome, especially with the creme head tube accent.

On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:57:33 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Having seen the new bruise bleu in person I can attest to how great 
> the color is. 
> Emily's new bike is the bruise bleu 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/6845791516/ 
>
> On Mar 19, 10:43 am, Ryan Ray  wrote: 
> > Love that color. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Monday, March 19, 2012 10:20:37 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: 
> > 
> > > Poking around Riv site and saw they have the new colored Sams for pre- 
> > > sale for an incredible deal at $1050.00!  Damn wish it wasnt time to 
> > > pay for my kid's summer camp or I would snap that up right now. 
> > >http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hillborne-blue.htm

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[RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike?

2012-03-20 Thread davidfrench


>
> Hi, very late on the topic, but for a -used- solution, I bought a VW 
> Eurovan from 2001 (I wasn't in the market for new vehicle which is fine 
> cause VW stopped importing those).
>
I put a hitch and a 4-bikes rack from Hollywood in the back. Works great 
and there's even room for my wife's surf boards inside!
:-)
 

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[RBW] schwable tire rating

2012-03-20 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv

All this talk about tires has me looking at options for the Sam I use
for my 15 but soon to be 25 miles RT commute.

Schwalbe's website rates the Marathon Supreme as 5 for speed and 5 for
puncture protection. Kojaks get a 6 for speed and 4 for protections.
Ultrego DDs, a 23/25 mm road tire, get 4 for speed and 5 for
protection.

Does that mean that the Supremes are as fast as the DDs, and that the
Kojaks are even faster? Do DDs beat Kojaks and equal Supremes for
puncture resistance? Or is the scale different for road and city/
touring tires?

Cause if the numbers are as they seem I'm thinking about trying 25 mm
DDs on my commuter Sam.

I am using 32 mm Supremes at the moment, 60/80 psi front/back. 165-170
lbs of me + ~ 5-10 lbs of gear most days.

Jay

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[RBW] ISO 622 X 60 mm fenders

Need a rear in particular: plastic, black. But can use a set, too --
in which case need not be black tho' prefer black.

Have for trade: https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale

Reply off-list. Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: 650b ... the next wave.

2012-03-20 Thread Patrick in VT

On Mar 19, 12:11 pm, jeffrey kane  wrote:
> http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/nino-schurter-wins-world-cup-1-on...

yeah, that should give the MTB 650bers a little boost - except the
wheels/tires on Nino's bike aren't really available to everyone.  come
to think of it, i don't even think his bike is available yet.  anyway,
it's a good option to have - selfishly speaking, it's a sweet spot for
bikes in my size ... and that might be the direction the industry is
eventually headed, wheel size based on frame size.  small bikes get
26er, medium get 650b, large get 29er.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns vs. Pasela vs. ??