RE: [RBW] For Sale; Mondaine Watch, BOB Wool Jersey

2012-05-18 Thread David Yu Greenblatt
Marc,

Thanks for the info but I will pass

- David
 On May 17, 2012 7:32 PM, Marc Schwartz mschw...@nmsu.edu wrote:

 David,
 No scratches on face. Strap is somewhat creased with minor delamination on
 inside. There's already been 1 offer and counteroffer. I can and will send
 photos early tomorrow AM if watch is still available.
 Cheers
 Marc
 
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 Subject: Re: [RBW] For Sale; Mondaine Watch, BOB Wool Jersey

 Hi Marc,

 Can you send me some photos of the watch?
 Any scratches on the face?
 How worn is the strap?

 Thanks,

 David


 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Marc Schwartz mschw...@nmsu.edumailto:
 mschw...@nmsu.edu wrote:


 Hiya All!

 I am offering the following items;

 Mondaine Swiss Railroad Watch. 40mm white face, black markers, red second
 hand with ball. Large date. Swiss quartz movement, mineral crystal. Worn
 about 1 1/2 years, some wrist rub on back, original black leather strap
 worn but serviceable, otherwise like new. Battery 10 weeks old, keeps
 excellent time. Riv sells the 35mm version of this watch (without date).
  $95
 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/az6.htm

 Official BOB wool cycling jersey XL, long sleeves, black with white
 striping. 100% Merino Wool by Portland Cyclewear. Prominent BOB logo
 embroidered in black on the large white chest stripe. Underneath on the
 black background is Steel, Leather  Wool embroidered in white. 6 zipper
 at neck, single zipped pocket in back. Rare and beautiful. Near new
 condition, but Tiny moth holes render this a USER rather than a
 collector. Priced accordingly,  $75
 Photos emailed on request.

  All including Shipping to CONUS. Paypal, por favor. Please email for
 photos and more info to mschw...@nmsu.edumailto:mschw...@nmsu.edu.
 Thank you all for your consideration.

 Thanks,
 Marc



 





 http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/az6.htm

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe and flats: Is it just me?

2012-05-18 Thread newenglandbike
I have experienced this same phenomenon with a set of nokian 
hakkapalitta(sp?) studded tires recently.Those things NEVER flat.  
After the second slow flat in a row, I figured it must be something wedged 
in the casing. It was NOT easy to find, but it was a small sliver of 
rusted metal about 3mm long-   tiny! I still don't know what the heck 
it came from, or how it got wedged so deep into the tire.   I guess it 
could have been from a chunk of rusted snowplow blade or something.   

Matt

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 12:04:50 PM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote:

 If you haven't found the culprit, it could still be in there. I like the 
 idea of marking the tire, but I've never done that. I reuse my patched 
 tubes, which might give a little extra protection if there is a 'gremlin' 
 in the tire casing. Great word for a hidden flattener. :^)
 Patrick is right - if the flat is on the rim side, it's a spoke hole (or 
 burr?), not a tire problem.
 In the case of a tire-side puncture, SOMETHING caused it, right? I run my 
 finger carefully inside the tire, trying to avoid puncturing my flesh on 
 the thorn or wire, or getting a paper cut from the edge of the bead. I line 
 up the patched tube to the tire, and search in both matching locations, in 
 case I flipped the tube around during the patch process. i.e.: if the valve 
 stem is 12:00, and the puncture is at 3:00, but I can't find any cause 
 there, I check at 9:00 as well. I bend the tread in hard at that point with 
 my left thumb, and press against it with my right middle finger, trying to 
 force the sticker all the way through the tread. I usually find it. 

 I did just realize that the heavier tires have a thicker tread where 
 thorns and wire bits can hide. That could be the whole of your problem. 
 Thinner threaded tires are easier to find the culprit, so it doesn't stay a 
 gremlin, causing more mischief.

  Philip

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[RBW] Re: L-brackets - just do it!

2012-05-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
I'll bet there are a lot more people who want threads for fenders than want 
a bracket for a kickstand, or for that matter a second top tube on a mid 
size bike.

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:

 Things like that add cost.  As the costs add up the prices go up.  As 
 prices go up sales go down.  As sales go down profits go down.  As profits 
 go down businesses go down.  It's a matter of finding that sweet spot where 
 Riv can manage to stay in business over the long haul.  I expect they have 
 considered that feature as well as many others, and they had to rule it 
 out.  It's not like Grant and company wouldn't have thought of it.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:

 I wondered the same thing  - my QB does not have a threaded brake bridge 
 and I was pretty surprised when I discovered that. I had to zip tie my rear 
 fender onto the brake bridge because the crimp-on bracket thingy was 
 costing me about 1cm in clearance...

 Why wouldn't this be an absolute no-brainer on every Riv made?




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[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)

2012-05-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
I use bees wax on my silver bar ends and find I still need to retighten the 
D ring about once a ride, maybe every 20 miles or so.  Has anyone tried 
lock tite?

michael

On Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07:03 PM UTC-4, Noel M. wrote:

 Zack, thank you for your input.  I'll keep that in mind!

 Thank you.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:

 and if it still slips, take it apart and put some beeswax on the threaded 
 bolt thing.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Peter Morgano
Preaching to the choir man,  rode plastic bikes for years for how light and
perceived fast they were.  Always uncomfortable,  now feel liberated on
my 42s getting passed by team kit getting ready for the tour in their
minds.
On May 18, 2012 1:18 AM, Allan in Portland allan_f...@aracnet.com wrote:

 Well, it's not about the equipment. It's the motivations of the person
 picking the equipment. Biking has become associated with fitness and
 competition. Riding for fun and enjoyment comes in a distant second place
 in a lot of people's minds. This has meant a lot of people out there are
 miserable when riding their bikes. It has become a chore, or something they
 feel they have to do, like eating broccoli. It has also meant even more
 people have simply stayed away from riding altogether because they think it
 has to be a miserable, character-building endeavor.

 The point of Grant's talk (I haven't read the book yet) is to free people
 of these ill-conceived notions. I can't decided if this is lame or not, but
 I'm thinking it might be apt to summarize Grant's goal as Zen and the Art
 of Bicycle Riding. If you're not at peace with how you ride, you're doing
 it wrong.

 Trying to straddle some line between practical and fitness is probably
 still missing the point. (Though not necessarily, so please don't take
 offense, I'm not trying to call you out) One should only ride that which
 they enjoy. There shouldn't be trade-offs or balancing acts figuring one's
 enjoyment. Choosing to get beat-up *less* on 25 mm tires to go 1 mph
 faster, instead of 23 mm tires to go 2 mph faster is still doing it wrong.
 Everyone's sole and unequivocal condition should be don't get beat-up by
 your tires. After that is met, who cares about width? It is what it is.

 Hope this doesn't come across too preachy.

 Regards,
 -Allan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Pondero
Totally on board with the ride for fun philosophy, but I also suspect that 
some of those in-training racer folks are actually having fun.  That was me 
10 years ago.  But what fun is to me has changed.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
The woman in question didn't buy a bike from me yet, but the Pacer, 
Cross-check, and San Marcos were the three I showed her. Most of the problem is 
not speed, but wanting to fit in with the clubby roadies she imagines she'll 
ride with someday. And those guys have preached a different sort of gospel 
about carbon being a magical substance that makes everything about bike riding 
better. I used to ride my Atlantis with 50 mm Big Apples, fenders, a rack, a 
grocery pannier, and flat pedals on a weekly ride like that. At least half my 
conversations on those rides involved my companions trying to sell me on the 
trappings of the faux-racer. And I was the one who was selling bikes as a job 
(pre-HC days).

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[RBW] Re: Just Ride on NPR's Morning Edition May 18

2012-05-18 Thread Zack
Link is up, listening now:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/05/18/152945439/bike-to-work-day-your-photos-and-riding-advice-from-grant-petersen

(i think it's funny they describe him as long time bike shop owner 
ahahah.  i think Grant is a bit more than that, just my .02)


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[RBW] Re: Grant JUST RIDE at Harris Cyclery June 1

2012-05-18 Thread opa...@gmail.com
Is there any more details on the 2nd leg of the Just Ride tour?

On Wednesday, May 16, 2012 5:59:03 PM UTC-5, Leslie wrote:

 My understanding is, he's scheduled to be at MSL in Bristol on June 2nd... 
 I concur, not a easy schedule, it's one stop to the next...

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[RBW] Re: First S36O of the year.

2012-05-18 Thread Mike
On May 17, 9:42 pm, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote:
 Great trip! Looking forward to rolling with you. --Andy


Yeah, definitely. I'll be getting out for multiple trips in the first
two weeks of July. Also, my wife seems much more okay with my heading
out with others as opposed to solo. Alder Flat Campground ruled. It's
an absolutely beautiful place and the mile of trail in seems to help
it stay quiet. I sure wish the Max (lightrail) ran out to Estacada, it
would make it so much easier to access camping on the Clackamas
River.

When it's warmer and I'm carrying less gear I'm gonna take the Hilsen.
I had brought my tent and some warm clothes in anticipation of cold
temps at night but it really wasn't that cold at night/morning. I
could have left the rain fly to my tent at home.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride on NPR's Morning Edition May 18

2012-05-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Interesting; I see a trend away from real cyclist = racer and
doubtless this NPR piece is both a sign and will be an encouragement
of the trend.

Interesting, too: first, that Grant hasn't managed yet to shed all his
lowdown, racer-boy ways (I can sympathize, tho' I never raced formally
-- slow motion attack!); second that he gives $300 - $400 as the
minimum for a usable utility bike (I'd guess that this is true if you
don't commute more than, say, 2-3 miles each way; new bikes only, used
is cheating); and riding in your work clothes: can't see that for
rides over 2-3 miles. Me, summer, street shorts but jerseys (pockets,
trim fit and long tails), SPDs and shoes and the most important piece
of cycling kit ever developed, the cycling cap (blocks sun, wind and
mops up sweat).



On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote:
 Link is up, listening now:

 http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/05/18/152945439/bike-to-work-day-your-photos-and-riding-advice-from-grant-petersen

 (i think it's funny they describe him as long time bike shop owner ahahah.
  i think Grant is a bit more than that, just my .02)


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[RBW] Re: L-brackets - just do it!

2012-05-18 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
I agree with respect to the double top tube. There really aren't that many 
riders who might benefit from it riding, say, a 56 Sam or 52 Bombadil, IMO. 
60cm Sam is a little more of a judgment call (in the affirmative for me, 
hovering around 250); but still... surely a significant majority don't need 
'em. On a 64cm Sam they seem like a good idea.  Are 60s mid-sized? Doubtful. 
64s? Nope.

I disagree with respect to the kickstand plate. I remain perplexed as to why 
RBW didn't always have them. I have to assume it boiled down to cost, as I 
suspect is the case for any missing fender bosses. I've always wondered 
though... is there a significant effect on the frame's overall durability or 
ride quality or what-have-you caused by the plate itself or by the addition 
of the plate during manufacture? And if so, is it good or bad?

Superficially added material suggests added durability or strength. But added 
heating of tubes might suggest reduced durability or strength. And of course 
additional material implies added weight, which always has to justify itself in 
a design.

Oh well, I'm *very* glad to have a kickstand plate. Installing a kickstand 
without one is not hard but is always a judgment call about how much to clamp 
down on those stays. I'm only somewhat disappointed not to have the fender 
bosses I lack. The biggest improvement they would have made would be to have 
prevented me from having a choice: crimp-wrap or L-bracket? Had I decided 
L-bracket at first, I'd've had no problem. My real problem was that I initially 
made the wrong choice for me.

In any case, I'd live without a kickstand plate or fender bosses or even 
eyelets for racks/fenders if it were the only path to a slack seat tube, tall 
head tube, clearance for 40-622s with fenders, a stable-yet-comfy ride and a 
strong frame and fork. All the missing stuff could be accommodated. As 
priorities go, RBW does really, really well.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
(who is midst replacing a 113 BB with a 110... we'll see how it goes)

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[RBW] Re: L-brackets - just do it!

2012-05-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I can't imagine the design team and bean counters at Riv having a meeting about 
the threaded fender hole on the seatstay bridge, and determining that it's just 
too costly and leaving it out. When I think of Riv, cutting corners to save a 
cou

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[RBW] Re: L-brackets - just do it!

2012-05-18 Thread Zack
Literally the only time i have been like hm, weird when trying to get 
something to work on my 64 2TT Sam was when I figured out that there was no 
fender mount on the rear brake bridge.  Everything else has been perfect, 
just absolutely perfect.  It was an easy fix (I ended up just zip tying the 
fender to the brake bridge, any kind of bracket didn't give me what i 
needed because i had TIGHT clearance - Berthoud 50 fenders with marathon 
dureme 40's).  I have since moved to the longboards, which presented their 
own brand of fender frustration (Fenderstration?).  

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[RBW] Re: L-brackets - just do it!

2012-05-18 Thread Peter Pesce
That's my point. Riv actively ADVOCATES for putting fenders on your bike, 
so it makes no sense to me that they'd omit mounting points for fenders any 
more than they'd omit clearances for them. And there are any number of 
things you could do to offset the cost of a fender boss or drilling. I'll 
give up $5 of fancy paint for proper fender mounting, for starters.

On Friday, May 18, 2012 7:21:09 AM UTC-4, MichaelH wrote:

 I'll bet there are a lot more people who want threads for fenders than 
 want a bracket for a kickstand, or for that matter a second top tube on a 
 mid size bike.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:

 Things like that add cost.  As the costs add up the prices go up.  As 
 prices go up sales go down.  As sales go down profits go down.  As profits 
 go down businesses go down.  It's a matter of finding that sweet spot where 
 Riv can manage to stay in business over the long haul.  I expect they have 
 considered that feature as well as many others, and they had to rule it 
 out.  It's not like Grant and company wouldn't have thought of it.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:

 I wondered the same thing  - my QB does not have a threaded brake bridge 
 and I was pretty surprised when I discovered that. I had to zip tie my rear 
 fender onto the brake bridge because the crimp-on bracket thingy was 
 costing me about 1cm in clearance...

 Why wouldn't this be an absolute no-brainer on every Riv made?



On Friday, May 18, 2012 7:21:09 AM UTC-4, MichaelH wrote:

 I'll bet there are a lot more people who want threads for fenders than 
 want a bracket for a kickstand, or for that matter a second top tube on a 
 mid size bike.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:

 Things like that add cost.  As the costs add up the prices go up.  As 
 prices go up sales go down.  As sales go down profits go down.  As profits 
 go down businesses go down.  It's a matter of finding that sweet spot where 
 Riv can manage to stay in business over the long haul.  I expect they have 
 considered that feature as well as many others, and they had to rule it 
 out.  It's not like Grant and company wouldn't have thought of it.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:

 I wondered the same thing  - my QB does not have a threaded brake bridge 
 and I was pretty surprised when I discovered that. I had to zip tie my rear 
 fender onto the brake bridge because the crimp-on bracket thingy was 
 costing me about 1cm in clearance...

 Why wouldn't this be an absolute no-brainer on every Riv made?




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Re: [RBW] Re: L-brackets - just do it!

2012-05-18 Thread Peter Morgano
I see what you are talking about, and agree.  I am just saying it is what
it is so to the parts bin to dig out an L bracket so I can mount it up and
think about it rarely, if ever again.

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's my point. Riv actively ADVOCATES for putting fenders on your bike,
 so it makes no sense to me that they'd omit mounting points for fenders any
 more than they'd omit clearances for them. And there are any number of
 things you could do to offset the cost of a fender boss or drilling. I'll
 give up $5 of fancy paint for proper fender mounting, for starters.


 On Friday, May 18, 2012 7:21:09 AM UTC-4, MichaelH wrote:

 I'll bet there are a lot more people who want threads for fenders than
 want a bracket for a kickstand, or for that matter a second top tube on a
 mid size bike.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:

 Things like that add cost.  As the costs add up the prices go up.  As
 prices go up sales go down.  As sales go down profits go down.  As profits
 go down businesses go down.  It's a matter of finding that sweet spot where
 Riv can manage to stay in business over the long haul.  I expect they have
 considered that feature as well as many others, and they had to rule it
 out.  It's not like Grant and company wouldn't have thought of it.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:

 I wondered the same thing  - my QB does not have a threaded brake
 bridge and I was pretty surprised when I discovered that. I had to zip tie
 my rear fender onto the brake bridge because the crimp-on bracket thingy
 was costing me about 1cm in clearance...

 Why wouldn't this be an absolute no-brainer on every Riv made?



 On Friday, May 18, 2012 7:21:09 AM UTC-4, MichaelH wrote:

 I'll bet there are a lot more people who want threads for fenders than
 want a bracket for a kickstand, or for that matter a second top tube on a
 mid size bike.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:

 Things like that add cost.  As the costs add up the prices go up.  As
 prices go up sales go down.  As sales go down profits go down.  As profits
 go down businesses go down.  It's a matter of finding that sweet spot where
 Riv can manage to stay in business over the long haul.  I expect they have
 considered that feature as well as many others, and they had to rule it
 out.  It's not like Grant and company wouldn't have thought of it.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:

 I wondered the same thing  - my QB does not have a threaded brake
 bridge and I was pretty surprised when I discovered that. I had to zip tie
 my rear fender onto the brake bridge because the crimp-on bracket thingy
 was costing me about 1cm in clearance...

 Why wouldn't this be an absolute no-brainer on every Riv made?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
I can't know her (or anyone else's!!!) motivation, desires, intention or 
financial situation, but it just seems that buying a good middle of the 
road do-everything versatile bike for a first adult bike is a good idea. 
Try it out in a bunch of different situations; club rides, commuting, CC 
touring, rough-stuff. Then find out what you really like and more 
importantly what you really are using it for. Then buy a bike that's a bit 
more specialized in that area. Either keep the original bike for a back up 
to the dedicated one, or sell it to subsidize the new one. Everyone's a 
winner!

I'd throw the Gunnar Sport for a MUSA brand and the Black Mountain Cycles 
Road as an indie brand into the mix as well.

Of course contrary to what *I *think is best, most people in this situation 
end up w/ a racey Tre-iant-alized. 


On Friday, May 18, 2012 6:28:34 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 The woman in question didn't buy a bike from me yet, but the Pacer, 
 Cross-check, and San Marcos were the three I showed her. Most of the 
 problem is not speed, but wanting to fit in with the clubby roadies she 
 imagines she'll ride with someday. And those guys have preached a different 
 sort of gospel about carbon being a magical substance that makes everything 
 about bike riding better. I used to ride my Atlantis with 50 mm Big Apples, 
 fenders, a rack, a grocery pannier, and flat pedals on a weekly ride like 
 that. At least half my conversations on those rides involved my companions 
 trying to sell me on the trappings of the faux-racer. And I was the one who 
 was selling bikes as a job (pre-HC days).

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[RBW] Re: For Sale Ladies step through BIKE

2012-05-18 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com
Wow, that is a beautiful bike. 

On Friday, May 18, 2012 10:19:30 AM UTC-7, Charlie wrote:

 Bought this for my wife.She did not like it! YES she knew what it is ! 
 (probably the last of  ~ 16 bikes I hauled home hoping she would go 
 for it)
  
 LIKE NEW  LADIES' SCHWINN PARAMOUNT model # P65-9 

 Size 22 ( 56 X 56 ) 

 ALL STANDARD PARAMOUNT EQUIPTMENT : REYNOLDS 531 FRAME TUBING 
 Campagnolo RECORD hubs - headset and the hard to find tripple crank, etc

 This is A UN-MOLESTED ALL ORIGINAL AS NEW BIKE !

 $1200 CASH ONLY

 Reasonable offers considered.

 NO SHIPPING - at this time
  
 If you are seriously interested I am available to answer any questions ,
 please include a phone number and best time to call you.
  
 Thank you for your interest.
  
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  near Jennersville PA 19330


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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose measurements

2012-05-18 Thread mr.trout

i have a pair that i just listed on ebay with a low starting price,
200mm.
i think the longer ones are perfect. the reach at the end of the bar
is more like 7-8cms. the extra length at the front is really nice for
laying low and digging into a headwind.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Bruce Herbitter
A local riding buddy has a Riv'd out Surly Pacer and it is a dynamite bike.
Originally done in black it was just powder coated custard at Spectrum and
looks nice. Rides great too.  Maybe he'll post a picture.

Needs lugs though :)

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.comwrote:

 Jim,


 Others have suggested a Surly LHT. My thought is another: why not one of
 the new Surly Pacers, which are designed for standard reach brakes? It
 could be built up in a racy, weight-conscious way with a smart mix of
 Ritchey or FSA parts and a SRAM Apex or Rival gruppo


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Re: [RBW] Re: Just Ride

2012-05-18 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Buy the Pacer frame and build it up as a 650b. It's a super bike (700c
or 650b)!  I'm sure the Cross Check and Long Haul Trucker are great
bikes as well. I tell my friends to find one of those used on
Craigslist as a great starter bike.

Toshi

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[RBW] Re: Just Ride on NPR's Morning Edition May 18

2012-05-18 Thread Rick
I don't wear spandex, but I do wear shorts and t-shirt and change at
the office.  The commute is pretty short at 5 miles, if a little
hilly, but the weather gets a little too hot here for me to wear the
suit.  I do, however, use the bike to go from my office to nearby
locations, and do that in my suit.  Fenders make that possible.

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Re: [RBW] Re: L-brackets - just do it!

2012-05-18 Thread Steven Frederick
Riv's always preferred plastic fenders and used zip ties or the supplied
sliding brake hole mount option.  The threaded mount is more appropriate
when mounting metal fenders which have only in the last few years really
become a popular choice.

Similar deal with the kickstand plate--demand wasn't there and Grant only
gradually moved further away from the roadie concept that kickstands are
unnecessary weight.

Compare the Heron Road and early custom Rivs to what's available now--Riv
has moved from basically massaged versions of B-stones (Riv Road and Heron
Road = RB, Heron touring and all 'rounder = RB-T and XO) to increasingly
tour and dirt capable country bikes with plentiful wide-tired and fender
clearance where high bars, kickstands are more accepted, and more fender
options are easily accommodated.

Steve

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Peter Pesce petepe...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's my point. Riv actively ADVOCATES for putting fenders on your bike,
 so it makes no sense to me that they'd omit mounting points for fenders any
 more than they'd omit clearances for them. And there are any number of
 things you could do to offset the cost of a fender boss or drilling. I'll
 give up $5 of fancy paint for proper fender mounting, for starters.

 On Friday, May 18, 2012 7:21:09 AM UTC-4, MichaelH wrote:

 I'll bet there are a lot more people who want threads for fenders than
 want a bracket for a kickstand, or for that matter a second top tube on a
 mid size bike.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:

 Things like that add cost.  As the costs add up the prices go up.  As
 prices go up sales go down.  As sales go down profits go down.  As profits
 go down businesses go down.  It's a matter of finding that sweet spot where
 Riv can manage to stay in business over the long haul.  I expect they have
 considered that feature as well as many others, and they had to rule it
 out.  It's not like Grant and company wouldn't have thought of it.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:

 I wondered the same thing  - my QB does not have a threaded brake
 bridge and I was pretty surprised when I discovered that. I had to zip tie
 my rear fender onto the brake bridge because the crimp-on bracket thingy
 was costing me about 1cm in clearance...

 Why wouldn't this be an absolute no-brainer on every Riv made?



 On Friday, May 18, 2012 7:21:09 AM UTC-4, MichaelH wrote:

 I'll bet there are a lot more people who want threads for fenders than
 want a bracket for a kickstand, or for that matter a second top tube on a
 mid size bike.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 1:08:49 PM UTC-4, Bill wrote:

 Things like that add cost.  As the costs add up the prices go up.  As
 prices go up sales go down.  As sales go down profits go down.  As profits
 go down businesses go down.  It's a matter of finding that sweet spot where
 Riv can manage to stay in business over the long haul.  I expect they have
 considered that feature as well as many others, and they had to rule it
 out.  It's not like Grant and company wouldn't have thought of it.

 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 10:05:24 AM UTC-4, Peter Pesce wrote:

 I wondered the same thing  - my QB does not have a threaded brake
 bridge and I was pretty surprised when I discovered that. I had to zip tie
 my rear fender onto the brake bridge because the crimp-on bracket thingy
 was costing me about 1cm in clearance...

 Why wouldn't this be an absolute no-brainer on every Riv made?


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[RBW] No!

2012-05-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
This just in! Grant learned all he knows about bicycles from Angela Lansbury!!

Quote: 2) Grant Petersen learned everything he knows from Angela Lansbury.

--True
--False

True: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6gbqugDx9Efeature=youtu.bet=5m16s

False: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isoEWr1s1-g

Unquote.

For the miserable few who don't dote on BSNYC: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/

Scroll down.

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Blazing high above your head;
But in you is the Presence that will be
When all the stars are dead.

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[RBW] OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Scot Brooks
As I've realized that my perfect Sam set-up is that of a basketted, every day 
city commuter and weekend day tourer, I've been thinking about a true 
camping/touring bike. An Atlantis is out of the budget and so is a Hunq, which 
is sad but true. I've found some great options that will fit the budget, and a 
couple that meet my requirements of tire clearance, low-rider-rackability, and 
1 threaded fork. For those who are curious, the VO Polyvalent 700c Campeur 
and the ENE Ciclo Touring are at the top of the list. 

In the spirit of keeping my mind open, I landed on the idea of a camping mixte. 
Does such a thing exist with stout-ish tubing, room for 700x38 tires with 
fenders, cantilever brakes, and mounts for a low-rider front rack? If it 
doesn't, I propose that there is certainly room in the world for such a thing. 
I'd love to have one. 

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[RBW] Re: Silver Shifter and/or Front Derailleur Issue(s)

2012-05-18 Thread Lynne Fitz
My rear Silver shifter was intermittently doing that to me, always, of
course, at a Really Bad Time.  It was doing this from day 1.  I
tightened it down.  I tightened it down.  It would still
intermittently just lose it, even when it was really tight.  Replaced
the washers.  Same thing.

I now have a replacement Silver rear shifter (through the seller).
Rode a century a couple weekends ago, no issues.  I am told it is a
rare problem, but there you have it.

Lynne F

On May 18, 4:24 am, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:
 I use bees wax on my silver bar ends and find I still need to retighten the
 D ring about once a ride, maybe every 20 miles or so.  Has anyone tried
 lock tite?

 michael







 On Thursday, May 17, 2012 11:07:03 PM UTC-4, Noel M. wrote:

  Zack, thank you for your input.  I'll keep that in mind!

  Thank you.

  On Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:49:32 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:

  and if it still slips, take it apart and put some beeswax on the threaded
  bolt thing.

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[RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread William
Is the Betty disqualified?  Keven tours the heck out of a Betty.  I'm 
seriously in the market for a Betty myself.  Too expensive?

On Friday, May 18, 2012 2:05:37 PM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote:

 As I've realized that my perfect Sam set-up is that of a basketted, every 
 day city commuter and weekend day tourer, I've been thinking about a true 
 camping/touring bike. An Atlantis is out of the budget and so is a Hunq, 
 which is sad but true. I've found some great options that will fit the 
 budget, and a couple that meet my requirements of tire clearance, 
 low-rider-rackability, and 1 threaded fork. For those who are curious, the 
 VO Polyvalent 700c Campeur and the ENE Ciclo Touring are at the top of 
 the list. 

 In the spirit of keeping my mind open, I landed on the idea of a camping 
 mixte. Does such a thing exist with stout-ish tubing, room for 700x38 tires 
 with fenders, cantilever brakes, and mounts for a low-rider front rack? If 
 it doesn't, I propose that there is certainly room in the world for such a 
 thing. I'd love to have one. 


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[RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Scot Brooks
Hey William,
The Betty WOULD be in the mix, being that it's an absolutely extraordinary 
bicycle, but my budget would be almost entirely tapped. That, combined with the 
fact that I don't think low rider racks work with the Riv braze-ons. Another 
consideration is that I really want to give some business to one of Seattle's 
local shops who have gone way above and beyond for me on a couple of occasions.

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Lee Chae
The Soma Buena Vista has the eyelets needed for racks and fenders, and is
touted as having sports touring geometry. $500 for frame and fork:

http://store.somafab.com/sobuvifrfo.html

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

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 Hey William,
 The Betty WOULD be in the mix, being that it's an absolutely extraordinary
 bicycle, but my budget would be almost entirely tapped. That, combined with
 the fact that I don't think low rider racks work with the Riv braze-ons.
 Another consideration is that I really want to give some business to one of
 Seattle's local shops who have gone way above and beyond for me on a couple
 of occasions.

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Scot Brooks
Hi Lee,
I eliminated the Buena Vista for tire clearance (can only fit 700x28 with 
fenders), and for the 1.125 headtube. Otherwise you're right, it's a sweet 
frame. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Lee Chae
Sorry, Scott. My bad for not seeing your 38mm tire width requirement.
Outside of the head tube and brake-type issues, I do think the Buena Vistas
can handle 650Bs if cush is what you are after.

Best,
Lee
SF, CA

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 Hi Lee,
 I eliminated the Buena Vista for tire clearance (can only fit 700x28 with
 fenders), and for the 1.125 headtube. Otherwise you're right, it's a sweet
 frame.

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Scot Brooks
Good point on the 650b Lee. I'd love to go that route, but I'm restricted in 
that I already have a nice set of 700c wheels ready for the build. Other than 
that, tires, dyno headlamp, fenders, stem, cassette, and pedals are already in 
my possession. It makes it so I have to work backwards a bit. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Lee Chae
I hate when reality dashes my daydreaming :) Good luck on the hunt.

Lee

On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Scot Brooks scothinck...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good point on the 650b Lee. I'd love to go that route, but I'm restricted
 in that I already have a nice set of 700c wheels ready for the build. Other
 than that, tires, dyno headlamp, fenders, stem, cassette, and pedals are
 already in my possession. It makes it so I have to work backwards a bit.

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[RBW] For Sale Ladies step through BIKE

2012-05-18 Thread Justin August
This is right by me. I wish wish wish I could convince the Lady to let me spend 
this much. 

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Re: [RBW] For Sale Ladies step through BIKE

2012-05-18 Thread charliepedal
Had a lot of guys want to buy it , but had no body to ride it.On 05/18/12, Justin Augustjustinaug...@gmail.com wrote:This is right by me. I wish wish wish I could convince the Lady to let me spend this much. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-ZEpkkC3JwwJ.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.



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[RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Beth H
The KHS Urban Xpress/Mixte will give you most of what you're looking for in 
a built-up complete bike, except the lowrider rack eyelets and the drop 
bars (but you can swap those in yourself later), including a Cr-MO frame, 
room for 37's (with fenders!) and sensble gearing -- for only a little more 
than the Soma Buena Vista frameset.

Cheers --Beth in pdx

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[RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
2012 specs indicate it has lowrider bosses... but also a 1.125 headset. Its 
threaded. Are there shims or something that would allow a 22.2mm quill to work 
in there?

The picture I saw makes me *really* appreciate round straight tubes.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
who used to dream of a Betty but now dreams of a Brompton... and later a Betty

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[RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
First, I think it's funny that you request suggestions for a modern bike 
with a 1 threaded steerer. Outside this little bubble, 1 threaded forks 
are obsolete. Even the 1-1/8 threadless that replaced 1 threaded is on 
the wane for non-steel bikes in 2012.

Second, I have suggested many times to my friends at Surly that they make a 
mixte version of the LHT. I think it would be a hit if offered as a 
complete bike in a fun color.

On Friday, May 18, 2012 4:05:37 PM UTC-5, Scot Brooks wrote:

 As I've realized that my perfect Sam set-up is that of a basketted, every 
 day city commuter and weekend day tourer, I've been thinking about a true 
 camping/touring bike. An Atlantis is out of the budget and so is a Hunq, 
 which is sad but true. I've found some great options that will fit the 
 budget, and a couple that meet my requirements of tire clearance, 
 low-rider-rackability, and 1 threaded fork. For those who are curious, the 
 VO Polyvalent 700c Campeur and the ENE Ciclo Touring are at the top of 
 the list. 

 In the spirit of keeping my mind open, I landed on the idea of a camping 
 mixte. Does such a thing exist with stout-ish tubing, room for 700x38 tires 
 with fenders, cantilever brakes, and mounts for a low-rider front rack? If 
 it doesn't, I propose that there is certainly room in the world for such a 
 thing. I'd love to have one. 


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[RBW] Re: OT(ish): Is there such thing as a modern mixte touring bike?

2012-05-18 Thread Scot Brooks
A mixte LHT, now that would be sweet. By the way, my use of modern was a 
little goofy. I just meant currently in production. Most of my motivation for 
the 1 steerer is that I just love the look, the other part is that I have a 
spare Technomic hanging around.

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