Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Shoe Recommendations?
For New England ski-goggle weather I have a roomy, lightweight pair of boots, with no steel shank just basic leather upper and a vibram sole. It's all about a pair or two of heavy wool socks, and my feet aren't cold down below 0F. It's my hands that will get cold if I'm not careful about layering mittens. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/EQbjmPVHrs8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fall northwoods excursion
Awesome pics Jim, no words needed! Dave Nawrocki Fort Collins, CO - Original Message - From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 1:45:40 PM Subject: [RBW] Fall northwoods excursion No Rivs on the ride, as it happened, but I think the conditions were more than a little Riv-friendly. Pics for now, words when I get around to it. http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/10/fall-northwoods-trip.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GYYUG1JuaYAJ . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fall northwoods excursion
Showing your pics to my wife has been the catalyst to deciding where we want to ride next fall. Just beautiful! David Charlotte, NC On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:45:40 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: No Rivs on the ride, as it happened, but I think the conditions were more than a little Riv-friendly. Pics for now, words when I get around to it. http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/10/fall-northwoods-trip.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6xxu3FPe9t0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
Yes - the question of whether society should or should not require helmet use involves some importantly different policy considerations than any given individual's decision whether to use one. For myself (as one who probably avoided more serious injury in a bad (self-induced) crash because of a helmet I was wearing only because my wife insisted), I wear one most of the time. But I don't mind wearing them at all. For those who do (for whatever reason) mind, it's their decision, and not mine. And, in particular, +1 on the last sentence of the preceding message: I do think it's unfortunate that the pro-helmet/anti-helmet debate has devolved (in some quarters) to the level of holy war. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of soapscum Sent: Monday, October 01, 2012 8:07 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant I'm sure I'm a statistical anomaly, and at the risk of exposing myself as either profoundly unlucky or a terrible rider, I've had helmets save my noggin' from serious injury twice. The first when a car hit me and I landed on my head resulting in a dandy concussion and a sprain in 3 cervical vertebra. Unquestionably, I'd have been much worse off without the helmet. The second time, a patch of black ice disappeared my bike out from underneath me and I went down hard enough to break the helmet on the pavement, ringing my bell hard enough that I didn't realize I'd broken my wrist for about 4 hours. Apart from riding in an urban environment to begin with, I wasn't taking any unusual risks; things happen. I can still walk, talk, ride my bike, feed myself... so, I'll keep wearing a helmet. Seems to work for me. And while it's clearly the fallacy of the vivid example, it's the reason I require my daughter to wear hers, helmet law or no. Do I think helmet use should be mandated by statute? I don't, but it's not one of the injustices I devote any time to. I do think it's unfortunate that the pro-helmet/anti-helmet debate has devolved (in some quarters) to the level of holy war. On Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:33:18 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sunday-review/to-encourage-biking-cities-forget-about-helmets.html?pagewanted=all -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/We8DD_SpUAYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fall northwoods excursion
awesome trip, photos, and great roads. I'd have to get in just a little fishing on that trip, though. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BrIzepwiH6E/UFkaVrRfxtI/AQs/DkjGe9RFJFo/s1600/aP9180012.jpg On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 7:31:48 AM UTC-5, David Spranger wrote: Showing your pics to my wife has been the catalyst to deciding where we want to ride next fall. Just beautiful! David Charlotte, NC On Monday, October 1, 2012 3:45:40 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: No Rivs on the ride, as it happened, but I think the conditions were more than a little Riv-friendly. Pics for now, words when I get around to it. http://hiawathacyclery.blogspot.com/2012/10/fall-northwoods-trip.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-8Wvk93oH0IJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Front rack bag for tall riders?
32 cm? Mine, which prompted this thread, is 43 cm (to the rack, not the fender, which is ever further)!! On Sep 30, 2012, at 7:03 PM, john johnco...@comcast.net wrote: @ Steve, Joe, and Jim: thanks for the great photos. These really help. I've got an interesting situation (I think). I have been flummoxed in trying to set up a handlebar bag for some time now. In short, my bike's long head tube combined with a fairly large frame have been difficult to fit. I ride a Sam Hillborne (60 cm). The drop from the horrizontal stem bolt to the top of my fender (where a rack would sit if I still had one on) is 32 cm. My first attempt was with an Ostrich bag with a Velo Orange stem-mounted decaleur. The bag was too short: it didn't reach my rack. The second attempt was with a Swift Industries rando bag (their largest). Still too short to reach the top of the rack. I've been eyeing a Gilles Berthoud 28 (their largest) for a couple years now, but have not wanted to pull the trigger for fear of it not working, either. So, questions to any and all: The largest Berthoud is 25 cm tall. I've still got 7 cm between the bag and the horrizontal stem bolt. Will the Berthoud decaleur get me to the rack? If so, do I purchase their standard size (91) or their longer (121)? I'll attatch a picture of my set up in hopes of helping to clarify my situation. Thanks all! On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:10:22 PM UTC-7, Rex Kerr wrote: My handlebar bag is in tatters and needing replacement. In addition, it doesn't work on my AHH's mustache bars, which has me thinking of converting to a rack mounted bag since both of the bikes I'd use it on have front racks. The problem is, in all of the pictures that I see where they look very conveniently placed, they're on small bikes. On these small bikes with short steerer tubes the bag is tall enough to come up nearly to the bar height, and all is well. Problem for us tall guys is that the distance down to the rack is quite extreme. So, I'm thinking that such a bag wouldn't be ideal for me. Any thoughts on this subject from fellow tall riders? Have you tried such a bag? Did it feel inconvenient to use? Did you find it to be a non-issue, such that you're wondering what I'm fretting about? Thanks! -Rex -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ue8j7n-WqpkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. photo.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
It would be great to be continually breaking the law whenever I rode my bicycle. As it is, I only get to break the law here and there when riding my bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XCsFsIIiKEwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
I agree with the article, but sometimes I feel it would be great to be continually breaking the law whenever I rode my bicycle- as it is, I only get to break the law here and there while riding. On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:33:18 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sunday-review/to-encourage-biking-cities-forget-about-helmets.html?pagewanted=all -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kLsOhWA0LzIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
For the record I always wear a helmet. I also go back to check to see if I locked the front door, pick the seat near the conductor on the subway, wait on the sidewalk for the light to change, etc. As a freedom loving liberal though I dont feel at all that my neurosis should be applied to society at large. I am not sure at all they make you safer, I am just that neurotic. I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified its just another way to make us feel like we dont belong or are doing something wrong and should just be ready for when someone tries to run us down. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 12:34 PM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with the article, but sometimes I feel it would be great to be continually breaking the law whenever I rode my bicycle- as it is, I only get to break the law here and there while riding. On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:33:18 PM UTC-4, Peter M wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/**09/30/sunday-review/to-** encourage-biking-cities-**forget-about-helmets.html?**pagewanted=allhttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/30/sunday-review/to-encourage-biking-cities-forget-about-helmets.html?pagewanted=all -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/kLsOhWA0LzIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
Huh? Been riding seriously for more than 30 years, and this is a first. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Winter Shoe Recommendations?
I have had great luck/comfort with LL Bean 'Bean Boot' mocs - http://www.llbean.com/llb/search?init=1freeText=bean+boot+mocnav=gnro-474 Warm, wind-proof, waterproof (within reason), reasonably priced. Made in America. On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:59:51 PM UTC-4, meehan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I'm looking for some recommendations for winter riding shoes or boots. For just plain old platform style pedals, not clipless SPD pedals. And by winter I mean cold weather. Not West Coast cold (which we refer to as chilly in these parts) but Minnesota cold. Something that will keep my feet dry and warm down to zero degrees Fahrenheit and below. Right now I'm using Tioga Surefoot and Spyder pedals on my two most ridden bikes (if it makes a difference). And in warmer weather I typically ride in Adidas Samba Millenniums or Keen sandals. Any recommendations are appreciated. Thanks! Shaun Meehan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Hkv-IZElKJUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
It was one of the reasons given here in NYC for mandating a helmet law, so that people could more easily identify cyclists. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Huh? Been riding seriously for more than 30 years, and this is a first. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 07:53 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: One doesn't spend much time worrying about head protection while walking. Falls while walking seldom involve a head injury. I think Steve makes a good point here. It would be silly to wear a helmet while walking or running because something very odd would have to happen for a healthy alert person to sustain a head injury while engaging in those activities. But it seems to me that spirited bicycle riding in the conventional position which involves bending at the waist and leaning forward with the head leading the center of gravity does make non-trivial head impact more likely in a crash. Like Steve and others, I have had a good number of head-ringing and helmet-destroying crashes over the years. Some of these crashes involved risky activities like Cat 3 bike racing but others happened while just riding along solo. Due to these experiences, and because I enjoy riding my bikes fast, I almost always wear a helmet. But I do agree that riding a bike in a mellow way -- e.g., pedaling to the local coffee shop -- is a pretty safe activity that does not mandate wearing a helmet. Another thought -- perhaps riding a Dutch-style city bike bolt upright lessens the risk of going over the handlebars and landing on one's head? If so, that is another reason why I should get a Bullmoose Bosco bar to further differentiate my city bike from my rando and racing-style go-fast bikes. I kind of like the idea of a designated bike for mellow helmetless riding. - David G in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
The only time I got hit by a car was walking across the street, legally. Girl made a left and rolled me over the hood hard onto the ground. I didnt get up and blame myself for not wearing a helmet and/or other safety gear or for having the audacity to walk across the street, which clearly is just for cars... On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:03 PM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 07:53 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: One doesn't spend much time worrying about head protection while walking. Falls while walking seldom involve a head injury. I think Steve makes a good point here. It would be silly to wear a helmet while walking or running because something very odd would have to happen for a healthy alert person to sustain a head injury while engaging in those activities. But it seems to me that spirited bicycle riding in the conventional position which involves bending at the waist and leaning forward with the head leading the center of gravity does make non-trivial head impact more likely in a crash. Like Steve and others, I have had a good number of head-ringing and helmet-destroying crashes over the years. Some of these crashes involved risky activities like Cat 3 bike racing but others happened while just riding along solo. Due to these experiences, and because I enjoy riding my bikes fast, I almost always wear a helmet. But I do agree that riding a bike in a mellow way -- e.g., pedaling to the local coffee shop -- is a pretty safe activity that does not mandate wearing a helmet. Another thought -- perhaps riding a Dutch-style city bike bolt upright lessens the risk of going over the handlebars and landing on one's head? If so, that is another reason why I should get a Bullmoose Bosco bar to further differentiate my city bike from my rando and racing-style go-fast bikes. I kind of like the idea of a designated bike for mellow helmetless riding. - David G in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
According to the Pituitary Societyhttp://www.springerlink.com/content/6213461j004054m1/, the causes of traumatic brain injury are: 39% Firearms 34% Vehicle Accidents 10% Falls 17% Other According to the national Brain Injury Association http://www.biausa.org/, the leading causes of brain injury, in order of prevalence are: 50% Motor vehicle crashes 21% Falls 12% Firearms 10% Sports/Recreation 07% Other According to the CDC http://www.cdc.gov/traumaticbraininjury/causes.html, the breakdown is: 35.2% Falls 17% Motor Vehicle 16% Colliding with moving or stationary object 10% Assault 21% Other On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:03:30 PM UTC-4, David G wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 07:53 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: One doesn't spend much time worrying about head protection while walking. Falls while walking seldom involve a head injury. I think Steve makes a good point here. It would be silly to wear a helmet while walking or running because something very odd would have to happen for a healthy alert person to sustain a head injury while engaging in those activities. But it seems to me that spirited bicycle riding in the conventional position which involves bending at the waist and leaning forward with the head leading the center of gravity does make non-trivial head impact more likely in a crash. Like Steve and others, I have had a good number of head-ringing and helmet-destroying crashes over the years. Some of these crashes involved risky activities like Cat 3 bike racing but others happened while just riding along solo. Due to these experiences, and because I enjoy riding my bikes fast, I almost always wear a helmet. But I do agree that riding a bike in a mellow way -- e.g., pedaling to the local coffee shop -- is a pretty safe activity that does not mandate wearing a helmet. Another thought -- perhaps riding a Dutch-style city bike bolt upright lessens the risk of going over the handlebars and landing on one's head? If so, that is another reason why I should get a Bullmoose Bosco bar to further differentiate my city bike from my rando and racing-style go-fast bikes. I kind of like the idea of a designated bike for mellow helmetless riding. - David G in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qHXyNEbt4ZYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Bay Riv Friendly Bike Shop
A reasonably frequent poster on this board is a mechanic at Blue Heron Bikes in Berkeley. It's a brand new shop. On Monday, October 1, 2012 4:04:15 PM UTC-7, Jared Volpe wrote: Looking for recommendations for some East Bay Riv Friendly Bike Shops. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Yhvf13J-OEUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Clif Bar Epiphany Ride
I'm lying on the floor of a hotel in my sleeping bag trying to sleep at 1am, AFTER three hours of driving. But I can't. To nervous/excited/scared about the ride for tomorrow. I don't usually get so anxious about a bike ride but this was the Epiphany Ride. The Clif Bar Epiphany Ride. When my friend Jessica suggested that I do it, nonchalantly I agreed without really thinking about how hard it would be. I'll do the 132 miler one! I told her, not knowing what I really am putting myself into. Coming off from a bike tour I figured I would be in shape for something like this. I further convinced myself that I've ridden that type of milage before so I should have any problems. Even when she sent in the cue sheet I still wasn't really worried about it 8000 thousand feet of climbing in 132 miles? Like doing Mt. Diablo twice but with longer breaks. So why was I so nervous that it was keeping me from sleeping? My clothes. Not really liking getting sick I opted with the long sleeve wool jersey, but with the temperature playing at around 100 degrees that day I was nervous that I would get heat stroke before I finished. I figured since my buddy was helping out in the sag wagon I would just give her a short sleeve jersey and I would just switch it out mid-ride. First mistake. The ride started well with a pretty well good sized group doing the 132. Clearly I was the odd duck out with my mustached bared old fashion steel bike with my wool jersey and vans. Didn't deter me from trying to ride with the medium paced group who picked up the pace after descended Ink Grade road. The route was good mixture of everything. Nice rolling hills to dusty dirt roads with a handful of good sized potholed to keep you on your toes. All mixed in with some beautiful views. Right away at the start of the ride we get the first flats of the day due to pot holes, a handful of people decided to go ahead to spin and I went along with. Got to ride with Cindy from Alaska who's aunt works at Clif Bar. Talked to her about randonneuring and racing. When the rest of the group caught up I jumped on the train and surprised the group that I was sticking with them with non-clipped in shoes and fat tires. Never a good thing when some of the veterans of the ride tell me the secret to this ride was just surviving. I didn't really know what they meant because up until that point I was having a great time. As the heat rose I never did get my chance to switch out my jersey so I baked in a long sleeve wool jersey. Right at the start of the dirt road I dropped my water bottle that was it for me sticking with the group. I never really got my rhyme back as the main group passed at a break neck speed up the dirt road. When the 100 miler group passed me I tried to to latch on but clearly I wasn't recovered yet so I had to suffer alone. The hill right before the climb I didn't realized I had a flat until half way up the climb. At that point I was at a pretty dark place mentally where I didn't feel like I was having fun anymore. The first stop was a lifesaver. You don't ever appreciate the wonderful curing effects of almond M M's until you suffer heat exhaustion. With food in my belly, tire fixed and the long sleeve wool jersey switched I was ready mentally to finish the rest of the ride. Got to ride with Nick from Emeryville who's wife works at Clif Bar and who just recently moved to the Bay Area a couple months ago. He complimented my Hillborne and said how he owned a Homer himself. If he know how rutty some of the road was he would have opted riding with the Homer instead. We got to talking and apparently Nick sold to Rivendell the organic biodegradable chain cleaner they used to sell. He stop selling it to them because frankly he stop making it. Due to him starting his family. The heat got worse and the hills got longer. Nick and I naturally separated and decided to suffer alone for the rest of the trip. (Weird how natural that can happen on long rides). 3/4th into the ride I was having cramping issues in my legs where I had to stop a handful of times just so I can massage my legs to keep going. 3 miles away from the end every type of pedaling motion made my legs cramp. So I did the most reasonable thing you should do you stand up and mash through the pain. Cycling is one of those weird sports where sometimes you don't get as much satisfaction in the ride until you finished it. I felt good about finishing the ride despite all the trouble i was having. It says a lot about a company who can put on such an amazing ride with so much support from it's employees. The ride itself is a testament of Clif Bar as a company, through incredible hard work and struggle you can accomplish anything one pedal at a time. Thanks to everyone at Clif Bar for being so amazing and supportive. From the crew members to the other fellow riders I felt welcome and incredibly thankful for being apart of the ride. Glad I
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
Yes, those stats seem on the mark to me. It would be interesting to unpack the Falls category, however. My guess is that very very few would involve healthy alert people falling down while walking or running or engaging in common daily activities. In my limited and anecdotal experience as a surgeon who has taken care of hundreds if not thousands of traumatically injured patients, falls that result in serious brain injury usually occur in individuals with other risk factors such as alcohol or drug intoxication, weakness and other functional limitations associated with old age, medical conditions that cause sudden loss of consciousness such as epilepsy and atrial fibrillation, engaging in relatively risky activities (e.g., hunting in a tree stand), etc. - David G in SF On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Matt Beebe matthiasbe...@gmail.com wrote: According to the Pituitary Societyhttp://www.springerlink.com/content/6213461j004054m1/, the causes of traumatic brain injury are: 39% Firearms 34% Vehicle Accidents 10% Falls 17% Other According to the national Brain Injury Associationhttp://www.biausa.org/, the leading causes of brain injury, in order of prevalence are: 50% Motor vehicle crashes 21% Falls 12% Firearms 10% Sports/Recreation 07% Other According to the CDC http://www.cdc.gov/traumaticbraininjury/causes.html, the breakdown is: 35.2% Falls 17% Motor Vehicle 16% Colliding with moving or stationary object 10% Assault 21% Other On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:03:30 PM UTC-4, David G wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com ** wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 07:53 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: One doesn't spend much time worrying about head protection while walking. Falls while walking seldom involve a head injury. I think Steve makes a good point here. It would be silly to wear a helmet while walking or running because something very odd would have to happen for a healthy alert person to sustain a head injury while engaging in those activities. But it seems to me that spirited bicycle riding in the conventional position which involves bending at the waist and leaning forward with the head leading the center of gravity does make non-trivial head impact more likely in a crash. Like Steve and others, I have had a good number of head-ringing and helmet-destroying crashes over the years. Some of these crashes involved risky activities like Cat 3 bike racing but others happened while just riding along solo. Due to these experiences, and because I enjoy riding my bikes fast, I almost always wear a helmet. But I do agree that riding a bike in a mellow way -- e.g., pedaling to the local coffee shop -- is a pretty safe activity that does not mandate wearing a helmet. Another thought -- perhaps riding a Dutch-style city bike bolt upright lessens the risk of going over the handlebars and landing on one's head? If so, that is another reason why I should get a Bullmoose Bosco bar to further differentiate my city bike from my rando and racing-style go-fast bikes. I kind of like the idea of a designated bike for mellow helmetless riding. - David G in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
I honestly wouldn't have considered wearing a helmet before I had kids. Now I have to do it at least for example. I let my daughter ride up and down the hill without her helmet, but I still cringe when I see her coming down the hill at a clip. I've also seen her at 35 mph on hills, but that would never be without a helmet (not sure it would help at that speed). But agreeing with my last post, a helmet is a great platform for a mirror. My nephew rode into the back of a car in Denver traffic when he was checking behind him (without a mirror). He was wearing a helmet, and nosed it into the guy's rear window, and did enough damage to the car that his auto insurance had to repair it. On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 12:47:24 PM UTC-5, David G wrote: Yes, those stats seem on the mark to me. It would be interesting to unpack the Falls category, however. My guess is that very very few would involve healthy alert people falling down while walking or running or engaging in common daily activities. In my limited and anecdotal experience as a surgeon who has taken care of hundreds if not thousands of traumatically injured patients, falls that result in serious brain injury usually occur in individuals with other risk factors such as alcohol or drug intoxication, weakness and other functional limitations associated with old age, medical conditions that cause sudden loss of consciousness such as epilepsy and atrial fibrillation, engaging in relatively risky activities (e.g., hunting in a tree stand), etc. - David G in SF On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Matt Beebe matthi...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: According to the Pituitary Societyhttp://www.springerlink.com/content/6213461j004054m1/, the causes of traumatic brain injury are: 39% Firearms 34% Vehicle Accidents 10% Falls 17% Other According to the national Brain Injury Associationhttp://www.biausa.org/, the leading causes of brain injury, in order of prevalence are: 50% Motor vehicle crashes 21% Falls 12% Firearms 10% Sports/Recreation 07% Other According to the CDChttp://www.cdc.gov/traumaticbraininjury/causes.html, the breakdown is: 35.2% Falls 17% Motor Vehicle 16% Colliding with moving or stationary object 10% Assault 21% Other On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 1:03:30 PM UTC-4, David G wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com ** wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 07:53 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: One doesn't spend much time worrying about head protection while walking. Falls while walking seldom involve a head injury. I think Steve makes a good point here. It would be silly to wear a helmet while walking or running because something very odd would have to happen for a healthy alert person to sustain a head injury while engaging in those activities. But it seems to me that spirited bicycle riding in the conventional position which involves bending at the waist and leaning forward with the head leading the center of gravity does make non-trivial head impact more likely in a crash. Like Steve and others, I have had a good number of head-ringing and helmet-destroying crashes over the years. Some of these crashes involved risky activities like Cat 3 bike racing but others happened while just riding along solo. Due to these experiences, and because I enjoy riding my bikes fast, I almost always wear a helmet. But I do agree that riding a bike in a mellow way -- e.g., pedaling to the local coffee shop -- is a pretty safe activity that does not mandate wearing a helmet. Another thought -- perhaps riding a Dutch-style city bike bolt upright lessens the risk of going over the handlebars and landing on one's head? If so, that is another reason why I should get a Bullmoose Bosco bar to further differentiate my city bike from my rando and racing-style go-fast bikes. I kind of like the idea of a designated bike for mellow helmetless riding. - David G in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7t00l7NosRQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:03 PM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu.greenbl...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 07:53 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: One doesn't spend much time worrying about head protection while walking. Falls while walking seldom involve a head injury. I think Steve makes a good point here. It would be silly to wear a helmet while walking or running because something very odd would have to happen for a healthy alert person to sustain a head injury while engaging in those activities. Perhaps it would seem that way but the facts are otherwise. The Minnesota Department of Health report a few years ago found that pedestrian brain injuries far exceeded bike related brain injuries. So did brain injuries from motor vehicle accidents, falls at home, assaults, gunshot wounds, suicide attempts, strokes and heart attacks, etc. Interestingly there were fewer brain injuries for cyclists riding on the streets than riding on bike paths and trails. Bicycling is safe. The general perception of bicycling now is that it is a brain injury waiting to happen. I am old enough to well remember when that public perception changed: when plastic bike helmets hit the market ca. 1975. Bicycling! Magazine led the charge. It's a great example of a meme. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: Perhaps it would seem that way but the facts are otherwise. The Minnesota Department of Health report a few years ago found that pedestrian brain injuries far exceeded bike related brain injuries. So did brain injuries from motor vehicle accidents, falls at home, assaults, gunshot wounds, suicide attempts, strokes and heart attacks, etc. Interestingly there were fewer brain injuries for cyclists riding on the streets than riding on bike paths and trails. Do you have a link to a source for this? I'd love to read it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: Perhaps it would seem that way but the facts are otherwise. The Minnesota Department of Health report a few years ago found that pedestrian brain injuries far exceeded bike related brain injuries. So did brain injuries from motor vehicle accidents, falls at home, assaults, gunshot wounds, suicide attempts, strokes and heart attacks, etc. Interestingly there were fewer brain injuries for cyclists riding on the streets than riding on bike paths and trails. Do you have a link to a source for this? I'd love to read it. A little googling: from here: http://www.health.state.mn.us/injury/midas/ub92/ selecting: State of Minnesota Traumatic Brain Injury mechanisms: Fall Motorvehicle vs pedestrian Motorvehicle vs cyclist pedal cyclist - other pedestrian - other You get the following results: Fall - 6278 Motorvehicle vs pedestrian - 117 Motorvehicle vs cyclist - 78 pedal cyclist - other - 446 pedestrian - other - 19 Total Traumatic Brain Injuries for the 2011 year above is 13702 so falls make up the lion's share. I also pulled all the Motorvehicle ones and I see Motorvehicle occupant: 1354 -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: East Bay Riv Friendly Bike Shop
Jitensha Studio on Bancroft in Berkeley has lots of nice bits and bikes though I doubt they'd happily perform routine bike shop work on other than their own bikes. I could be wrong. Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Q9v5e-RMhg0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 13:46 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: Bicycling is safe. The general perception of bicycling now is that it is a brain injury waiting to happen. I am old enough to well remember when that public perception changed: when plastic bike helmets hit the market ca. 1975. Bicycling! Magazine led the charge. It's a great example of a meme. I remember those days well. I remember in 1972 when my wife fainted on a bike ride, went down and hit her head. I remember driving on Rt 17 in the Catskills at 120 mph taking her to the hospital, with my daughter in the back seat, and her asking every few minutes Are we married? Do we have a child? and Who is that kid in the car? And I remember Dick Burns, an engineer from Rochester NY, visiting us in Monticello, telling us about the ride he was on when his friend and mentor crashed when he hit a dog, and how he died in his arms from a brain injury, and how Dick then designed a bike helmet and tried to persuade the helmet companies to make it commercially. I remember how my wife and I bought hockey helmets after that, and how at CoNYMA, the very first bike rally I ever attended, 1973, I was riding with Irv Weisman, technical editor of the League of American Wheelmen Bulletin, who also was wearing a hockey helmet. We got quite a bit of ribbing at the start of the ride, but about halfway through the ride we came upon a crash. A guy went down on gravel, landed on his head and peeled his scalp right off his skull. Oceans of blood everywhere, simply shocking. And I remember how after that we got all kinds of questions about where'd we get those helmets, and what were they. Eventually, in early 1975, Dick Burns convinced MSR to make a modification of their climbing helmet and turn it into a bike helmet. I recall Dick demonstrating that helmet at a workshop at GEAR 1975 that I, as workshop chairman, had set up. He brought a bowling pin with him, put on the helmet, and whacked himself on the head with it. Then he offered anyone in the workshop the chance to use the bowling pin to whack themselves over the head with a leather hairnet. I remember the skepticism in the Mid-Hudson Bike Club, that I belonged to at the time, until the strongest, most agile rider in the entire club, Jack Barnard, who had bought one, crashed on a night commute home from work. He ran over a downed tree branch that he had mistaken for a shadow, and the bike pivoted around the front wheel high-wheeler style, and he came down right on his head. I remember the drawing we made of the helmet for the club newletter (in those days, hand typed and hand drawn with a stylus on a mimeograph stencil) of the shattered helmet, and I remember Jack's comment that he had a headache, but the ER docs told him were it not for that helmet he would have been a dead man. And I remember how by the end of the month every member of the Mid-Hudson Bicycle Club had bought a helmet. Yeah, it's all a conspiracy on the part of the helmet makers and Bicycling magazine, and head injuries just don't happen. And if you're extra careful, bike crashes don't happen either. Bull$hit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] East Bay Riv Friendly Bike Shop
The newish shop the spoke on telegraph does great work. They took over the bent spoke and have improved the service even more than the name. Cooperatively owned and operated, very nice guys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lAcsc-lDtDIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
Hey, I grew up in Monticello, NY. My mom taught at the high school, we moved out when I was around 8-9. Lived in beautiful Jeffersonville, next to the cemetary. Good fishing country. My dad used to go hunting up there with my grandfather until he passed away. I imagine that would be good riding up there on the country roads but you are right, in that setting I would wear a helmet, for one since the speed limit is 55mph and you have some big old hills to descend. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 13:46 -0500, Tim McNamara wrote: Bicycling is safe. The general perception of bicycling now is that it is a brain injury waiting to happen. I am old enough to well remember when that public perception changed: when plastic bike helmets hit the market ca. 1975. Bicycling! Magazine led the charge. It's a great example of a meme. I remember those days well. I remember in 1972 when my wife fainted on a bike ride, went down and hit her head. I remember driving on Rt 17 in the Catskills at 120 mph taking her to the hospital, with my daughter in the back seat, and her asking every few minutes Are we married? Do we have a child? and Who is that kid in the car? And I remember Dick Burns, an engineer from Rochester NY, visiting us in Monticello, telling us about the ride he was on when his friend and mentor crashed when he hit a dog, and how he died in his arms from a brain injury, and how Dick then designed a bike helmet and tried to persuade the helmet companies to make it commercially. I remember how my wife and I bought hockey helmets after that, and how at CoNYMA, the very first bike rally I ever attended, 1973, I was riding with Irv Weisman, technical editor of the League of American Wheelmen Bulletin, who also was wearing a hockey helmet. We got quite a bit of ribbing at the start of the ride, but about halfway through the ride we came upon a crash. A guy went down on gravel, landed on his head and peeled his scalp right off his skull. Oceans of blood everywhere, simply shocking. And I remember how after that we got all kinds of questions about where'd we get those helmets, and what were they. Eventually, in early 1975, Dick Burns convinced MSR to make a modification of their climbing helmet and turn it into a bike helmet. I recall Dick demonstrating that helmet at a workshop at GEAR 1975 that I, as workshop chairman, had set up. He brought a bowling pin with him, put on the helmet, and whacked himself on the head with it. Then he offered anyone in the workshop the chance to use the bowling pin to whack themselves over the head with a leather hairnet. I remember the skepticism in the Mid-Hudson Bike Club, that I belonged to at the time, until the strongest, most agile rider in the entire club, Jack Barnard, who had bought one, crashed on a night commute home from work. He ran over a downed tree branch that he had mistaken for a shadow, and the bike pivoted around the front wheel high-wheeler style, and he came down right on his head. I remember the drawing we made of the helmet for the club newletter (in those days, hand typed and hand drawn with a stylus on a mimeograph stencil) of the shattered helmet, and I remember Jack's comment that he had a headache, but the ER docs told him were it not for that helmet he would have been a dead man. And I remember how by the end of the month every member of the Mid-Hudson Bicycle Club had bought a helmet. Yeah, it's all a conspiracy on the part of the helmet makers and Bicycling magazine, and head injuries just don't happen. And if you're extra careful, bike crashes don't happen either. Bull$hit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
Exactly Tim.Those findings in Minnesota jive with the stats I posted above.Biggest players in traumatic brain injuries, or TBIs as they're called, seem to be motor vehicles and firearms.Seems there is no shortage of stuff we can make laws about if we want to reduce the incidence of head trauma. Guess I'll have to wait to become a habitual offender. On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:46:54 PM UTC-4, Tim McNamara wrote: On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:03 PM, David Yu Greenblatt david.yu@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 7:28 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: wrote: On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 07:53 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: One doesn't spend much time worrying about head protection while walking. Falls while walking seldom involve a head injury. I think Steve makes a good point here. It would be silly to wear a helmet while walking or running because something very odd would have to happen for a healthy alert person to sustain a head injury while engaging in those activities. Perhaps it would seem that way but the facts are otherwise. The Minnesota Department of Health report a few years ago found that pedestrian brain injuries far exceeded bike related brain injuries. So did brain injuries from motor vehicle accidents, falls at home, assaults, gunshot wounds, suicide attempts, strokes and heart attacks, etc. Interestingly there were fewer brain injuries for cyclists riding on the streets than riding on bike paths and trails. Bicycling is safe. The general perception of bicycling now is that it is a brain injury waiting to happen. I am old enough to well remember when that public perception changed: when plastic bike helmets hit the market ca. 1975. Bicycling! Magazine led the charge. It's a great example of a meme. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ypID4qQDJi0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:57 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Hey, I grew up in Monticello, NY. My mom taught at the high school, we moved out when I was around 8-9. Lived in beautiful Jeffersonville, next to the cemetary. Good fishing country. My dad used to go hunting up there with my grandfather until he passed away. I imagine that would be good riding up there on the country roads but you are right, in that setting I would wear a helmet, for one since the speed limit is 55mph and you have some big old hills to descend. We started the Catskill Wheelmen in the spring of 1972. We were all beginners, none had ever ridden with a bike club before. Every ride seemed to have around 4,000 feet of climbing: turn at the corner, climb 1,000 feet, descend 1,000 feet, come to a 4-way stop sign, stop, climb 1,000 feet. All mountains, as I recall it, and not made any easier by the baby seat on the back of my bike, where I carried my daughter. Our longest ride ever that first year was 25 miles, all downhill: we drove our cars down to Middletown, parked at a restaurant, rode back to the ride start in a big old International Harvester SUV-ancestor, then rode downhill 25 miles, put the bikes in the car, had a celebratory lunch and called it a season. The next year they put on a century. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
When I moved out of monticello we lived near High Point NJ for about 15 years, where the riding was about as you describe it. Pretty punishing back then on a 10 speed but I was young and didnt mind it, especially since my dad could keep up with me mile for mile and I had something to prove. I dont know which is worse, rolling hills or climbing up the side of a mountain, at least witht he latter you get an awesome descent. My beautiful wife is from Middletown, but unfortunately hates riding, cant win them all! On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2012-10-02 at 15:57 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Hey, I grew up in Monticello, NY. My mom taught at the high school, we moved out when I was around 8-9. Lived in beautiful Jeffersonville, next to the cemetary. Good fishing country. My dad used to go hunting up there with my grandfather until he passed away. I imagine that would be good riding up there on the country roads but you are right, in that setting I would wear a helmet, for one since the speed limit is 55mph and you have some big old hills to descend. We started the Catskill Wheelmen in the spring of 1972. We were all beginners, none had ever ridden with a bike club before. Every ride seemed to have around 4,000 feet of climbing: turn at the corner, climb 1,000 feet, descend 1,000 feet, come to a 4-way stop sign, stop, climb 1,000 feet. All mountains, as I recall it, and not made any easier by the baby seat on the back of my bike, where I carried my daughter. Our longest ride ever that first year was 25 miles, all downhill: we drove our cars down to Middletown, parked at a restaurant, rode back to the ride start in a big old International Harvester SUV-ancestor, then rode downhill 25 miles, put the bikes in the car, had a celebratory lunch and called it a season. The next year they put on a century. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Anyone got anything bad to say about your Schwalbe Marathon with Green Guards?
Before I pull the trigger on a set? I just can't get myself to pay for Panaracer Anythings after the bad run I have had with them. So looks like I'm goin' Schwalbe, unless I get a run of bewares from y'all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hDsKbsiRobEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Clif Bar Epiphany Ride
Sounds like a real epic ride! And your stream-of-consciuosness ride report is almost Joycean. Good show! jim m wc ca On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:42:54 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: I'm lying on the floor of a hotel in my sleeping bag trying to sleep at 1am, AFTER three hours of driving. But I can't. To nervous/excited/scared about the ride for tomorrow. I don't usually get so anxious about a bike ride but this was the Epiphany Ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/P_PMpe52evoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Clif Bar Epiphany Ride
Is there a route map anywhere? Looks like a fantastic ride. On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:42:54 AM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote: I'm lying on the floor of a hotel in my sleeping bag trying to sleep at 1am, AFTER three hours of driving. But I can't. To nervous/excited/scared about the ride for tomorrow. I don't usually get so anxious about a bike ride but this was the Epiphany Ride. The Clif Bar Epiphany Ride. When my friend Jessica suggested that I do it, nonchalantly I agreed without really thinking about how hard it would be. quot;I'll do the 132 miler one!quot; I told her, not knowing what I really am putting myself into. Coming off from a bike tour I figured I would be in shape for something like this. I further convinced myself that I've ridden that type of milage before so I should have any problems. Even when she sent in the cue sheet I still wasn't really worried about it 8000 thousand feet of climbing in 132 miles? Like doing Mt. Diablo twice but with longer breaks. So why was I so nervous that it was keeping me from sleeping? My clothes. Not really liking getting sick I opted with the long sleeve wool jersey, but with the temperature playing at around 100 degrees that day I was nervous that I would get heat stroke before I finished. I figured since my buddy was helping out in the sag wagon I would just give her a short sleeve jersey and I would just switch it out mid-ride. First mistake. The ride started well with a pretty well good sized group doing the 132. Clearly I was the odd duck out with my mustached bared quot;old fashionquot; steel bike with my wool jersey and vans. Didn't deter me from trying to ride with the quot;mediumquot; paced group who picked up the pace after descended Ink Grade road. The route was good mixture of everything. Nice rolling hills to dusty dirt roads with a handful of good sized potholed to keep you on your toes. All mixed in with some beautiful views. Right away at the start of the ride we get the first flats of the day due to pot holes, a handful of people decided to go ahead to spin and I went along with. Got to ride with Cindy from Alaska who's aunt works at Clif Bar. Talked to her about randonneuring and racing. When the rest of the group caught up I jumped on the train and surprised the group that I was sticking with them with non-clipped in shoes and fat tires. Never a good thing when some of the veterans of the ride tell me the quot;secretquot; to this ride was just surviving. I didn't really know what they meant because up until that point I was having a great time. As the heat rose I never did get my chance to switch out my jersey so I baked in a long sleeve wool jersey. Right at the start of the dirt road I dropped my water bottle that was it for me sticking with the group. I never really got my rhyme back as the main group passed at a break neck speed up the dirt road. When the 100 miler group passed me I tried to to latch on but clearly I wasn't recovered yet so I had to suffer alone. The hill right before the climb I didn't realized I had a flat until half way up the climb. At that point I was at a pretty dark place mentally where I didn't feel like I was having fun anymore. The first stop was a lifesaver. You don't ever appreciate the wonderful curing effects of almond M amp; M's until you suffer heat exhaustion. With food in my belly, tire fixed and the long sleeve wool jersey switched I was ready mentally to finish the rest of the ride. Got to ride with Nick from Emeryville who's wife works at Clif Bar and who just recently moved to the Bay Area a couple months ago. He complimented my Hillborne and said how he owned a Homer himself. If he know how rutty some of the road was he would have opted riding with the Homer instead. We got to talking and apparently Nick sold to Rivendell the organic biodegradable chain cleaner they used to sell. He stop selling it to them because frankly he stop making it. Due to him starting his family. The heat got worse and the hills got longer. Nick and I naturally separated and decided to suffer alone for the rest of the trip. (Weird how natural that can happen on long rides). 3/4th into the ride I was having cramping issues in my legs where I had to stop a handful of times just so I can massage my legs to keep going. 3 miles away from the end every type of pedaling motion made my legs cramp. So I did the most reasonable thing you should do you stand up and mash through the pain. Cycling is one of those weird sports where sometimes you don't get as much satisfaction in the ride until you finished it. I felt good about finishing the ride despite all the trouble i was having. It says a lot about a company who can put on such an amazing ride with so much support from it's employees. The ride itself is a testament of Clif Bar as a company, through incredible hard work and struggle you
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
Here's my take, happily referencing Grant's writing: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/a-million-little-nannies Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:02:59 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: It was one of the reasons given here in NYC for mandating a helmet law, so that people could more easily identify cyclists. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Norris campyo...@me.comjavascript: wrote: Huh? Been riding seriously for more than 30 years, and this is a first. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/La5p8nPljhQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone got anything bad to say about your Schwalbe Marathon with Green Guards?
I've used the Marathon Supreme since 2008. I get around 5,000 miles on a rear on my Atlantis and more on fronts. Usually average about 1-2 flats per tire, and have never actually worn one out as in down-to- the-cord. Recently I installed a Marathon Plus with Smart Guard on the rear but only have a few hundred miles so too soon know anything. dougP On Oct 2, 2:52 pm, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Before I pull the trigger on a set? I just can't get myself to pay for Panaracer Anythings after the bad run I have had with them. So looks like I'm goin' Schwalbe, unless I get a run of bewares from y'all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
So, if you're riding a bicycle sans helmet there may be some confusion as to your identity? dougP On Oct 2, 10:02 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: It was one of the reasons given here in NYC for mandating a helmet law, so that people could more easily identify cyclists. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Huh? Been riding seriously for more than 30 years, and this is a first. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
Awesome discussion guys. Can we now move on to the merits of carbon fibre forks? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: So, if you're riding a bicycle sans helmet there may be some confusion as to your identity? dougP On Oct 2, 10:02 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: It was one of the reasons given here in NYC for mandating a helmet law, so that people could more easily identify cyclists. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Huh? Been riding seriously for more than 30 years, and this is a first. -Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Osama Bin Laden is dead. GM is alive. -- *Joe Biden* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
...or maybe the /_rake and trail_/ of carbon forks?! Pleeeze? On 10/2/2012 4:50 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Awesome discussion guys. Can we now move on to the merits of carbon fibre forks? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net mailto:dougpn...@cox.net wrote: So, if you're riding a bicycle sans helmet there may be some confusion as to your identity? dougP On Oct 2, 10:02 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com mailto:uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: It was one of the reasons given here in NYC for mandating a helmet law, so that people could more easily identify cyclists. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com mailto:campyonly...@me.com wrote: Huh? Been riding seriously for more than 30 years, and this is a first. --Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com mailto:uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Osama Bin Laden is dead. GM is alive. -- /Joe Biden/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Fall northwoods excursion
I fished. Landed a nice 3 bass. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MrMYlJ-SyjgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Fall northwoods excursion
I knew that looked familiar!! (It was a stunner with the weaved bar tape job, but it looks PERFECT as a camper/adventure bike in green...) Awesome pictures, no words required... I mean, bacon-wrapped dogs on a fire? Come on... that's like... *Fogettaboutit*... (as we say in NJ)... On Monday, October 1, 2012 4:22:52 PM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Thanks! The green bike is my Curt Goodrich custom (it used to be red), modeled on my former Atlantis, but with 26 wheels and a 1-1/8 threadless steerer, among other custom touches. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-xFe--FAnjQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Society Finally Catching up to Grant
I'm going to go out on a limb here, Esteban and predict that's not the first time you used nattering nabobs in your writing. :) On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 4:27:06 PM UTC-7, Esteban wrote: Here's my take, happily referencing Grant's writing: http://veloflaneur.wordpress.com/2012/10/02/a-million-little-nannies Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 10:02:59 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: It was one of the reasons given here in NYC for mandating a helmet law, so that people could more easily identify cyclists. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Norris campyo...@me.com wrote: Huh? Been riding seriously for more than 30 years, and this is a first. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.com wrote: I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/0FKTJhaGW8gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTT: 59 Bleriot for 58 QB
I'm sorry, I never saw this response. email me offline at colinthehip...@gmail.com On Friday, August 31, 2012 11:10:38 AM UTC-5, allenmichael wrote: I might be interested. I have a 58 Simple One - proto in the gorgeous red with a Phil wheel set. Can you tell me something about your wheels? On Friday, August 31, 2012 8:29:58 AM UTC-7, colinthehippie wrote: This is me testing the waters for interest in trading your QB or Simpleone for my Bleriot. Mine's a 59, and I've ridden a 58 QB before, but not ridden a Simpleone and am not sure about the sizing on that bike. Trade would include parts and pieces negotiated off list, so let me know if you're interested. I have no problem sticking with my Bleriot, but would also very much like fewer moving parts on my bike. Cheers, Colin Cummings Amarillo, TX colinth...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/E6TnsB4JICEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Society Finally Catching up to Grant
Naw, let's talk about chain lube. JimD On Oct 2, 2012, at 4:50 PM, cyclotourist wrote: Awesome discussion guys. Can we now move on to the merits of carbon fibre forks? On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: So, if you're riding a bicycle sans helmet there may be some confusion as to your identity? dougP On Oct 2, 10:02 am, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: It was one of the reasons given here in NYC for mandating a helmet law, so that people could more easily identify cyclists. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Huh? Been riding seriously for more than 30 years, and this is a first. -Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Oct 2, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.com wrote: I just hate when people say cyclists need to wear helmets so they can be observed and identified -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Osama Bin Laden is dead. GM is alive. -- Joe Biden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Society Finally Catching up to Grant
All this stuff is making my head hurt! ;) -JimD On Oct 2, 2012, at 12:23 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:10 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: Perhaps it would seem that way but the facts are otherwise. The Minnesota Department of Health report a few years ago found that pedestrian brain injuries far exceeded bike related brain injuries. So did brain injuries from motor vehicle accidents, falls at home, assaults, gunshot wounds, suicide attempts, strokes and heart attacks, etc. Interestingly there were fewer brain injuries for cyclists riding on the streets than riding on bike paths and trails. Do you have a link to a source for this? I'd love to read it. A little googling: from here: http://www.health.state.mn.us/injury/midas/ub92/ selecting: State of Minnesota Traumatic Brain Injury mechanisms: Fall Motorvehicle vs pedestrian Motorvehicle vs cyclist pedal cyclist - other pedestrian - other You get the following results: Fall - 6278 Motorvehicle vs pedestrian - 117 Motorvehicle vs cyclist - 78 pedal cyclist - other - 446 pedestrian - other - 19 Total Traumatic Brain Injuries for the 2011 year above is 13702 so falls make up the lion's share. I also pulled all the Motorvehicle ones and I see Motorvehicle occupant: 1354 -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone got anything bad to say about your Schwalbe Marathon with Green Guards?
I have a set of the older Marathons in 700x41 mm width (about 950 grams)and they are heavy feeling but inspire confidence over road debris and when off road riding. My 'go to' tire these days is the Marathon Supreme in 38mm actual width I think that is the 700x40 as advertised. This tire for me at (260 lbs) is great with 65 psi . It rides fast and comfy with no flats yet. I think the Green guard is probably a fine sturdy tire and good for trouble free all around riding. I own some Delta's in Creme and they are about the same as a Green guard but without the green latex layer and they ride nice at about 700+ grams each. Flats are no fun and unless you want maximum flat proofness with maximum performance you don't need the Supreme tire.the Greenguard should be fine plus they cost less and wear well. On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 2:52:15 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: Before I pull the trigger on a set? I just can't get myself to pay for Panaracer Anythings after the bad run I have had with them. So looks like I'm goin' Schwalbe, unless I get a run of bewares from y'all. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4zdt8x4W-fUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Clif Bar Epiphany Ride
Thank you for sharing. Manuel. It is a great story well told, it will only get better over the years. :-) I am in full fall mode where I grab a few riding hours between work sunset. A long epic ride sounds, well, epic right now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WxYBwkamPAUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone got anything bad to say about your Schwalbe Marathon with Green Guards?
I am just worried that they will feel like they drag, being that they are heavy. Do they roll well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zDKwP9WLOvMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Clif Bar Epiphany Ride
Thanks, Manny! Nice shots. It is encouraging to know that a Century+ can be done in regular shoes with regular pedals. I bet you were the only real man there who did so!!! I use regular pedals, too. And may be doing a long ride this fall. So it's good to know it is do-able that way. Seems like everyone you see on long rides these days are in full kit and clipless with carbon bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BDdP-jxPB6QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone got anything bad to say about your Schwalbe Marathon with Green Guards?
My regular Marathons the 950 gram ones are slower feeling than my 500+ gram Supremes the Green guard tire at about 38 mm is around 850 grams (I think...look it up) I have found that my Supremes offer a flat proof, speedy ride for me. My standard Marathons feel heavier and slower but...and its a definite but..they roll over gravel, dirt, glass and all manner of junk with a way softer ride and the heavy sidewalls inspire confidence. I didn't find the ride to be that much slower when riding alone. It all depends on where and how and who you ride with. I ride mostly alone and sometimes commute 25 miles one way on decent pavement to work so I waned a faster but reliable tire. If I were riding primarily on gravel and off road or on garbage strew streets I think I would go back to my wider Marathons. Having said that I have had no flats on my Supremes...they really are a high performance tough tire. The only tougher tire might be the Marathons with the super thick stuff that stops tacks.I think the Greenguards are somewhere in between but cost considerably less. What type of riding do you do and where do you mostly ride? On Tuesday, October 2, 2012 7:39:21 PM UTC-7, lungimsam wrote: I am just worried that they will feel like they drag, being that they are heavy. Do they roll well? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/s9iWr4mCH-YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone got anything bad to say about your Schwalbe Marathon with Green Guards?
I am looking for a good puncture protected 650b tire that won't feel slow and heavy. I do commuting on glass-ridden streets. Even metal scraps on the streets. I do recreational road riding with a friend (40-75 miles) in hilly areas. Lotsa hills where I live. So I am worried the heavy Marathons will just add to the climbing punishment. I am really torn between the Marathon on the riv site and and Soma (Panaracer) Xpress. I am only interested in the Xpress because it weighs less, yet still has puncture protection. But the Panaracer tires I have now (Swiftys) both got splits completely around the tires, on both sides, in the gumwalls, for no apparent reason, and both were less than 3 months old. So I feel a little afraid to spend the dough on the Somas since they are Panaracers. Both tires are expensive, and I just don't want to get them only to be disappointed. I don't know how the Marathons feel. If they roll fine, then great, I'll get 'em. I just don't want a tire that will feel draggy and add to the torture of hill climbing. I have been searching high and low for a puncture resistant 650b tire that won't be slow. Not many 650b choices to be had with puncture protection. I am not a racer, it is just that ot hurts when you ride your bike and it feels like the brakes are dragging. Riding should be fun, not painful. Thanks for any info. I appreciate you all taking the time to help me on this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JSUakwpF4f4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Clif Bar Epiphany Ride
Excellent, thank you!!! On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Manuel Acosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.comwrote: Route sheet proves that it was fun. Sometimes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rOURXar7UusJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** Osama Bin Laden is dead. GM is alive. -- *Joe Biden* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Been Thinkin'....
that if we feel the urge to have a helmet discussion, it needs to be a new one. A new discussion. A new way of looking at the subject. And I'm not in any way sure that can actually occur. I've been bumping around the interwebs since dial-up days, and have seen only a few topics turn truly, utterly and mind-numbingly ugly on a uniformly consistent basis. Helmets is one of those. I've never seen it end well. I've watched good folks who I knew and respected, other folks who seemed to fly in for the fight, and a whole lot of howling and sniping and cut-quoting. My personal view is that helmets is a topic where everyone starts out with the best intentions, but it devolves and becomes a harsher and more strident environment. Which is one of the things I'd hoped to avoid in this list. And just to say it clearly and loudly, we by and large have done so - avoided it, I mean. Thanks everyone who kept their head cool and presented facts, tried to keep a lid on a relentlessly explosive topic, or wisely took it off-list. I'm aware of how the topic got brought up, and how it specifically relates to Grant's writings and statements, and by extension how it could be related to this list. Thanks for no name callin', and no oh yeah, so's yer old man! positions being taken. I don't think any other group could have pulled it off so well. I'm just asking that we let it sit now (ok, I've actually locked the topic, so, it's a pretty strong ask) and take a couple steps back and not pick it up again. Because, it's an every-steepening slope with increasingly slicker sides. As for that new way I mentioned above. I have no idea what it is - whether we have the ability to have the discussion without a lot of other things operating. Some of those things are well and fine, and others may be not even recognized impulses and reactiions. The only thing I can think to use as an analogy is when you are out in a boat and suddenly the fog creeps in tight. You can see the water but as soon as you lift your vision up, landmarks are gone, perspective is skewed and it becomes a sudden, strange world. The best thing to do is first recognize that you are in the situation. Then figure out the best way to calmly and safely withdraw. There are probably some places to discuss the topic, to make the case or prove the point. But, my suggestion is that we not do so in this group. Thanks and thanks to all for their contributions. - Jim / List Admin Jim Edgar / Cyclofiend.com / cyclofi...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/uLy1LYkcvDQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Drop Bar Suggestions?
I second the vote for the SALSA COWBELL. I have been on a rampage for the right bars. I have a set of salsa bell lap's on my Surly LHT touring bike but decided, when building my Riv, that I should go with the classic look of the quill stem + polished silver Nitto Bars. I started out with the B135 Rando bars. I liked them for a good while till the narrow hoods just wore me out. If they were 45 in the hoods instead of the drops, I probably would've kept them. However, those bars are not for big riders! I had a set of 46cm noodles on another bike that I liked... but not that much. After swapping bars and stems several times on my Riv, I decided that I was done with quill stems and that I'd try out the quill stem adapter so I can try some 31.8 bars. There are so many more bars options in 31.8. So I'm now running the 46cm Salsa Cowbell 2 and love them. I love them so much that I put another set on my other bike... and I ordered a set for my sister's bike... and I put them on a bike I built for my buddy. I know bars are a personal thing but I think these bars have a great formula going for them. The short reach, shallow drop, and flare in the drops in fantastic. I highly recommend! On Thursday, September 27, 2012 7:10:59 PM UTC-4, tragicallyaverage wrote: Building up a bike and it needs some new drops. Any suggestions? What do you ride? I know Noodles of course, and I've tried them in 3 different widths and for some reason they don't hit home for me. If you had to put a drop bar other than a Noodle on your Riv/Riv-ish bike, what would it be? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ADb-H7vDZYwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] RIV Protovelo for sale $1350/Roubaix Sold
My Specialized Roubaix has been sold. This leaves only the Protovelo up for sale. It is a 54cm bike designed by GP and originally sold locally in Walnut Creek, CA. I have purchased the frame and have built it up with Velo Orange and Shimano and some other parts. The new owner can decide on wheels and tires (700c) and have a great bike which looks brand new except for a few small paint nicks. I can be reached at 615-319-8876.I have some good pics, but too large for this posting. Thanks, Jack E Nashville, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g_qfS0j9jGAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What size Hunq
Thx Doug. Can you post a pic of your bike? On Monday, October 1, 2012 11:02:38 PM UTC-4, Doug Magney wrote: My PBH is somewhere between 91.5 and 92. My 62 Hunq has a mid TT height of 90 cm with 700 x 47 Schwalbe Marathons. I debated whether to go with a 58 or a 62, like you are. Very glad I went bigger. Don't forget that PBH is measured in bare feet and you ride with some kind of shoes on, usually adding about 2.5 cm to your available TT clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lJyjfFp5vRcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Grant at College Park Bikes - DC metro area
How about a Rave of Riv's? On Monday, October 1, 2012 2:29:44 AM UTC-4, Philip Williamson wrote: I favor a muster of Rivendell, myself. Philip www.biketinker.com On Friday, September 28, 2012 9:05:52 AM UTC-7, Jeff wrote: College Park Bikes has posted some pics of the gathering last night: http://www.bike123.com/Grant%20Peterson%20slide%20show/ only of the discussion, none of your beautiful bikes pictured - it was nice to see the a good collection of Riv's together out in the wild though Is there a proper term for a collection of Riv's out in the wild? Gaggle? Flock? Clutch? Herd? Drove? Litter? Swarm? School? Cast? Skein? Muster? Colony? Team? Troop? Pod? Bevy? Horde? On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 7:26 AM, islaysteve alki...@verizon.net wrote: Thanks for sharing Proteus as well as CPC. When I first moved to this area 30+ years ago I had an old Mercier with tubulars. Proteus had affordable Clement tubulars and I would make the trip up there to buy them. Steve On Wednesday, September 12, 2012 7:10:37 PM UTC-4, Marty wrote: There's an outside chance I'll be there, but if not, here's a preview - and a bonus. There are* two* great shops in College Park, not far from each other. College Park Cycles is maybe the biggest and best, but Proteus Bicycles is worth a stop too. Larry Black is THE guy at CPC, would give Sheldon a run for his money in the deep knowledge department, but you have to literally nail him down to get a word in with him. Busy guy. - probably has sold more lugged steel bikes, tandems, triples, quads and recumbents than everyone else put together. I've sold him a number of bikes from my own stable over the years, mostly old Paramounts. Always a fair deal. If you need Honjos, he has 'em. Nitto? No problem. Tubus? You want black or silver? That left side saddle support from an old Campy NR post? You want NOS or used? Hmmm...maybe a never-built up Trek 720 frameset? Don't bump your head on it! You get the idea. Anyway, here's a sneak-peek at what you'll see hanging in the rafters there, and at Proteus if you get a chance to stop in. Like I said, both are worth a visit: *http://tinyurl.com/98e96cv* * * Hope to see some of you there! Bring money...something hanging in there has your name on it. * * Marty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oniQZazzHcEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/T1tp1WFpf8AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Winter Shoe Recommendations?
I like the NEOS over shoes (boots). I wore them all winter long in southern New England and now barely wear them in Nashville. The great bonus for commuting is that you can just take them off and have normal shoes underneath! Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/JNY56UgMDwkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] For Sale-RBW/Protovelo frame with some accessories (no wheels)
What other information on the Protovelo can I provide for you? On Monday, October 1, 2012 4:48:03 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: Well? On Monday, October 1, 2012 4:51:33 AM UTC-7, Bruce Baker wrote: Jack, What are the frame sizes and what components are on the roubaix?? On 9/29/12, Capnjack capn...@bellsouth.net wrote: I bought this frame and by the time I got a chance to ride it, I found it was too large for me. I just wasn't thinking straight, I guess. I called it a senior moment, and now have purchased a SOMA Fabrications ES. I have this and my old bike, a Specialized Roubaix Pro, 2009, both for sale. $1850 for the Specialized and $1350 for the Protovelo (blue) Both have been professionally cleaned, inspected, tested, and can be shipped for $50 each. Jack 615-319-8876 capn...@bellsouth.net Nashville, TN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/FByOGvk4VC8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Blue 60 cm Rambouillet $1595 + shipping SOLD
This bike is sold. Thanks to those who replied. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-F22JAoNjOcI/UFv-NamwWAI/AAM/q7lHMaR23yg/s1600/Rambouillet.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CjFuObYK9KgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What size Hunq
Thanks all. Gary, I'd love to see a pic of your 58cm. Many thx again. On Sunday, September 30, 2012 7:56:51 AM UTC-4, John Johnson wrote: I need some advice/help on the right size Hunq to order. I'm 6'1 and have a 91cm PBH. I also plan on running a Albatross bar. According to the Riv website, I'd be on a 58cm, but I've been advised to get a 62cm, which sounds large. Many thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wqgVHykhmiMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] East Bay Riv Friendly Bike Shop
You can't do much better than Stone's on Santa Clara Ave. in Alameda. Been there since 1943, exclusively steel bikes- Waterford, Gunnar, Bob Jackson, and Mercian to name a few- extremely knowledgeable and competent mechanic work and worth a visit just to peruse the vintage stuff up in the racks. Dennis has helped/ coached me on many a build. Highest recommendation. Robert Mc Andrews robtmcandr...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [RBW] East Bay Riv Friendly Bike Shop From: djmcnam...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 17:16:21 -0700 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Missing Link on Shattuck has been good in my experience. Tip Top on Telegraph in Oakland has been good for friends - I have never had a repair done there. Dan Marin (but work in Berkeley) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 1, 2012, at 4:54 PM, Jared Volpe jaredvo...@gmail.com wrote: You should be! Looking for a Riv friendly shop for tuneups, parts, etc. in the East Bay proper. Oakland, Berkeley. Not Walnut Creek. On Monday, October 1, 2012 4:41:23 PM UTC-7, Andrew Letton wrote:Um, how about Rivendell World Headquarters? cheers, Andrew (ducking...) From: Jared Volpe jared...@gmail.com To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, October 1, 2012 4:04:19 PM Subject: [RBW] East Bay Riv Friendly Bike Shop Looking for recommendations for some East Bay Riv Friendly Bike Shops. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ihU0hijYCgkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/HDPqculxFO0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Paul Brakes; MiniMoto v. Motolite
PS: Using, as I said, Mavic CXP33 rims Continental 28mm 4-Season tyres inflated to c.80psi, the distance from the top of the tyre to the (horizontal) cable between the two arms is c.26mm, or a hair over 1 inch. The curved arms are wider than the inside edge of the forks: there would be no danger of a tyre being too wide for these brakes. On *my* bike there is ample room for a mudguard (fender). Did I say the mini moto is very easy to adjust and that the quick release (incorporating the noodle barrel adjuster) is so simple to use you wonder why others haven't done it that way? My apologies for the small errors of grammar and punctuation in the original post: haste makes waste. On Monday, 21 May 2012 09:27:28 UTC+10, Ray wrote: Seeking comments re: advantages, disadvantages, ease of set-up, stopping efficiency, other comparative comments. the link: http://paulcomp.com/minimoto.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/2vAMONJ8oCUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What size Hunq
The best information will come from Rivendell. Give them a call. They will not pressure you to get a sale. Matt On Sunday, September 30, 2012 4:56:51 AM UTC-7, John Johnson wrote: I need some advice/help on the right size Hunq to order. I'm 6'1 and have a 91cm PBH. I also plan on running a Albatross bar. According to the Riv website, I'd be on a 58cm, but I've been advised to get a 62cm, which sounds large. Many thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/g41Gtd8ScngJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
