[RBW] Re: A miles only cyclecomputer??

2012-11-02 Thread charlie
Had one years ago..in the 70's. Took off my electronic speedo a few 
years ago and don't miss it. The thing is, on your normal routes, you 
already know the distance and a stop watch, pencil and paper will tell you 
your mph . My average mph hasn't changed in ten years it goes up as I get 
in shape at the end of the season but not by much. Top speed, 
a ridiculous 49 mph down a hill..I* *probably have gone faster since 
but don't want to know  and I try to avoid it. Top cruising speed on flat 
ground somewhere in the high 20's. I'm getting older and have less time to 
ride my speed isn't going up and my distances don't matter either. The only 
thing I look at is how long have I been ridingits easy to estimate 
mileage over varied terrain and its usually in the area of 12-15 per hour 
for me. Maps are better however. I just look at where I left from and where 
I end up then look at my watch and measure the distance on the map then its 
paper and pencil time if I just have to know how fast I covered the 
distance. Usually I am too lazy to figure it out and soon forget about it. 
The older I get the less concerned I am even about how far I have ridden I 
just want to ride. For maintenance purposes I go more by months or hours on 
the bike by estimation but lately I just lube my chain, pump the tires, 
give the bike the once over and ride. Its a mindset that takes a while to 
develop.old habits die hard.

On Saturday, October 27, 2012 9:56:22 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 Any such animal?
  
 I lost my cyclecomputer. Don't know if that's a good or bad thing.
  
 All I wanna keep track of is miles.
  
 I don't care about speed much anymore.
  
 PLease advise.
  


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[RBW] 650b Ram with Hetres, update 1

2012-11-02 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I mounted the Hetre tires on Synergy 650b wheels and swapped out the
calipers to Tektro R559. In the front there is gobs of room--over a cm on
all sides. In the back there is sufficient room with plenty of room up top,
and the minimum clearance is in the chainstays with about 4 mm at minimum
on each side. There should be plenty of room for fenders, as Jay described,
which is great.

The bad news is that the R559 caliper on the rear right side does not have
enough reach. Maybe 1 or 2 mm would do it. In order to take a test ride,
I'm flipping the brake pad in the reverse direction. I don't know how
much of a difference the pad will make if it's upside down, but in that
configuration the brake won't hit the tire.  The Tektro brakes have 73 mm
reach, and in theory, there are 75 mm reach brakes, which should hopefully
work.

I've kind of searched around the web and found some IRD B75 calipers, but
they only seem to be available in black right now for the rear. I prefer
silver, but...

I also saw some DiaCompe centerpulls. I've never used centerpulls, but I
could switch to those, since they also claim to have 75mm reach. I would
appreciate any experience with the centerpull brakes in contrast to the
dual-pivot calipers.

If there are other 75 mm reach brakes I should consider, then it would be
much appreciated too (I see BMX-style brakes, but have no idea about how
they would work on a road bike).

Thanks,
Toshi

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Re: [RBW] 650b Ram with Hetres, update 1

2012-11-02 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
tekro makes a slightly longer reach dual pivot sidepull. not sure of the part 
number but 800a rings a bell. ive used it and its decent especially if need the 
extra lenght and dont want to use centerpulls
mike goldman
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Re: [RBW] 650b Ram with Hetres, update 1

2012-11-02 Thread Jim Mather
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:


 The bad news is that the R559 caliper on the rear right side does not have
 enough reach. Maybe 1 or 2 mm would do it.


I've used a small round file to extend the slot for a little more reach.

jim m
wc ca

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Re: [RBW] 650b Ram with Hetres, update 1

2012-11-02 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Toshi: if you don't mind a hack, try a small rattail file in the pad slots.
I've added a couple of mm to old single pivot sidepulls that way. (Come to
think of it, I added almost 5 mm to the short horizontals on my '99 Joe
fixed that way.)

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:41 AM, Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com wrote:

 I mounted the Hetre tires on Synergy 650b wheels and swapped out the
 calipers to Tektro R559. In the front there is gobs of room--over a cm on
 all sides. In the back there is sufficient room with plenty of room up top,
 and the minimum clearance is in the chainstays with about 4 mm at minimum
 on each side. There should be plenty of room for fenders, as Jay described,
 which is great.

 The bad news is that the R559 caliper on the rear right side does not have
 enough reach. Maybe 1 or 2 mm would do it. In order to take a test ride,
 I'm flipping the brake pad in the reverse direction. I don't know how
 much of a difference the pad will make if it's upside down, but in that
 configuration the brake won't hit the tire.  The Tektro brakes have 73 mm
 reach, and in theory, there are 75 mm reach brakes, which should hopefully
 work.

 I've kind of searched around the web and found some IRD B75 calipers, but
 they only seem to be available in black right now for the rear. I prefer
 silver, but...

 I also saw some DiaCompe centerpulls. I've never used centerpulls, but I
 could switch to those, since they also claim to have 75mm reach. I would
 appreciate any experience with the centerpull brakes in contrast to the
 dual-pivot calipers.

 If there are other 75 mm reach brakes I should consider, then it would be
 much appreciated too (I see BMX-style brakes, but have no idea about how
 they would work on a road bike).

 Thanks,
 Toshi

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Re: [RBW] 650b Ram with Hetres, update 1

2012-11-02 Thread Bruce Herbitter
So, How did you like the test ride?




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 . In order to take a test ride, I'm flipping the brake pad in the
 reverse direction.



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Re: [RBW] 650b Ram with Hetres, update 1

2012-11-02 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
Hey Bruce,

I still need to route new brake cables because the cables I have now are
too short and swap the cassette because my RD is a road vs mountain on my
other 650b rigs, but I plan a ride this weekend! Look for update 2
hopefully soon! If the test ride goes well, I'll file the hole 2mm. Thanks
to all for the tips!

Toshi in Oakland, CA


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 So, How did you like the test ride?




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[RBW] Maxy Fasty experience please.

2012-11-02 Thread Palmer
Hi all,
I am considering some Maxy Fastys for a 650b conversion. They seem to get 
little press lately with all of the new offerings, but had some mixed 
reviews in the past. I love my Jack Brown Greens, so I think they will be 
great. Can you share some experience?
Thanks Tom Palmer
Twin Lake MI

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[RBW] FS 56cm Homer Hilsen Frame/Fork

2012-11-02 Thread Mike B
Hello all!

 I had my Rivendell frame up for sale this summer but there were no 
takers so I have reduced the price a fair bit. It is a 56cm A. Homer Hilsen 
frame, fork, and Tange Levin alloy njs headset.   It is a Toyo frame that 
was purchased from Rivendell last fall.  I am the only owner.  I didn't 
like the original color and sent it off to Tom Kellogg for a repaint.  The 
color is a dark olive green and creamy head tube with a clear coat to 
finish up. It's solid color with that slightly wet look and No pearl or 
Metallic.  I really like it and think he did a fantastic job. I didn't 
bother with replacing the decals but if you want them I think you can get 
them from Riv.  The head badge is, of course, sitting proudly on the head 
tube.

 The frame was only ridden from February to May, mostly commuting to work 
and a handful of forty or fifty mile rides thrown in for good measure. It 
has a couple of scratches from normal use and a tiny ding in one spot which 
I have tried to show in the pics. I have used frame saver on the insides 
and all in all I would consider it to be in great condition. 

  I am in Manhattan and if anyone is interested and wants to they are 
welcome to come by and check it out.   If you can get here that is...   
 Obviously it is still a bit crazy in the city but I think I could have the 
bike boxed and shipped by the middle of the week. 

I am asking $1050  but would like the buyer to pay for shipping.   I will 
pack it up nice and bring it to Fed Ex or UPS.  My bike box is at work 
right now and there is a giant crumpled crane blocking my path so I can't 
figure out the box dimensions till I can get into work and get a quote from 
one of the shipping companies.  Its a riv bike box if anyone knows the 
actual dimensions and wants to figure shipping costs.

  Mike

P.S.  I don't post very often so when I do it still takes time to go 
through and I seem to get lost in the shuffle here and there but I will do 
my best to answer any questions.  

Here are pics...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/36747164@N05/sets/72157631912380220/

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Re: [RBW] Maxy Fasty experience please.

2012-11-02 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I rode them for about 2,300 miles on a 650B conversion and liked them quite
well overall. Not as cushy as Pari-Moto or Hetres, but tough and reliable
over coarse chipseal. Enough air in them to ease those nasties.
I definitely prefer them to the Nifty-Swifty, which is more durable but
less compliant. The ride very similarly to the G.B. Cypres in my
experience, but are a bit more rugged.

On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Palmer volvotom1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I am considering some Maxy Fastys for a 650b conversion. They seem to get
 little press lately with all of the new offerings, but had some mixed
 reviews in the past. I love my Jack Brown Greens, so I think they will be
 great. Can you share some experience?
 Thanks Tom Palmer
 Twin Lake MI

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[RBW] Re: Maxy Fasty experience please.

2012-11-02 Thread Rocky B
I have Maxty Fasty's on my wife's 1950 Claud Butler Mixte that I converted 
to 650b (the mixte was originally designed for 26 x 1 1/4 wheels).  

I actually ride the bike more than my wife does.  She rides SS, while I 
ride fixed gear.  The Maxty Fastys feel great - light, cushy, and speedy.

Yes, there're not as cushy as the Hetres, but they eat up Chicago potholes 
just as good.

Rocky

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Re: [RBW] 650b Ram with Hetres, update 1

2012-11-02 Thread Greg J
Toshi,

2 thoughts.  First, Hiroshi at Jitensha years ago filed 1-2mm on a brake 
slot on one of my bikes.  So I think that's fine.  But, if you're unsure, 
some Mafacs had a vertical (oblong) slot instead of a circular mounting 
hole in the yoke, which would give you another 3-4mm.  I have one of these 
on a 2000 brakeset i'm not using. If you want, I can measure the reach for 
you and see if it's long enough.

Greg, also in Oakland, CA, but won't get a chance to get out this weekend.


On Friday, November 2, 2012 11:09:22 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote:

 Hey Bruce,

 I still need to route new brake cables because the cables I have now are 
 too short and swap the cassette because my RD is a road vs mountain on my 
 other 650b rigs, but I plan a ride this weekend! Look for update 2 
 hopefully soon! If the test ride goes well, I'll file the hole 2mm. Thanks 
 to all for the tips!

 Toshi in Oakland, CA


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  wrote:

 So, How did you like the test ride?




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Re: [RBW] 650b Ram with Hetres, update 1

2012-11-02 Thread franklyn
Toshi,

Another trick I have employed to extend the brake reach is to use mountain 
or v-brake style brake shoes/pads instead of road pads. The pivots on the 
mountain pads are thinner and the pads can sit lower on the slot--may just 
be enough to reach the rim.

Franklyn

On Friday, November 2, 2012 3:27:55 PM UTC-7, Greg J wrote:

 Toshi,

 2 thoughts.  First, Hiroshi at Jitensha years ago filed 1-2mm on a brake 
 slot on one of my bikes.  So I think that's fine.  But, if you're unsure, 
 some Mafacs had a vertical (oblong) slot instead of a circular mounting 
 hole in the yoke, which would give you another 3-4mm.  I have one of these 
 on a 2000 brakeset i'm not using. If you want, I can measure the reach for 
 you and see if it's long enough.

 Greg, also in Oakland, CA, but won't get a chance to get out this weekend.


 On Friday, November 2, 2012 11:09:22 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote:

 Hey Bruce,

 I still need to route new brake cables because the cables I have now are 
 too short and swap the cassette because my RD is a road vs mountain on my 
 other 650b rigs, but I plan a ride this weekend! Look for update 2 
 hopefully soon! If the test ride goes well, I'll file the hole 2mm. Thanks 
 to all for the tips!

 Toshi in Oakland, CA


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 So, How did you like the test ride?




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[RBW] the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Minh
Great timing too bad no responses. Why not something like the mavic open sport? 
 Not wide enough?  I'm also in the market, I love the looks of the VO rims but 
wish there was a little more user feedback on them.  

I'm also looking for how hard to build as I'm thinking about building my first 
wheel with these. 

Somas are on sale this weekend,  

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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
You may also want to consider the TB14 from H Son Plus - 
http://hplusson.com/products/TB14

I built up a set of these in Hard Ano a while ago and they are quite 
classic looking.


On Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:48:21 PM UTC-7, stee...@gmail.com wrote:

 snip

  

 Grand Bois - http://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/336618/404875/list.html

 Pacenti PL23 - 
 http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detailintItemID=398

 Soma Eldon - http://store.somafab.com/soelrim70.html

 Velo-Orange Raid/PBP/Diagonale - 
 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims.html

  

 From this list, it is probably obvious I'm leaning towards a traditional 
 looking, non-anodized, non-machined, single/double eyelet, silver rim. 
  Incidentally, I will be running 32 mm tires (Jack Brown Green’s, most 
 likely).  Thanks in advance.



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Re: [RBW] Sackville, Medium, Stuffed!

2012-11-02 Thread Stonehog
How did she handle, Patrick?  I just received mine today.  Can't wait to load 
her up for the Monday commute!

Brian Hanson
(Testing the water resistance of Sackvilles in) Seattle, WA

On Nov 2, 2012, at 3:06 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Back from the grocery store with S-M containing:
 
 Gal Mlk
 5 lb bg pttos
 Dz Egs
 Bnch Kale
 Small bag shredded parmesan
 1 onion
 1 lemon
 
 (Dinner: omelets, french fries, kale salad with dressing of lemon jc, olive 
 oil, and parmesan.)
 
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Re: [RBW] Sackville, Medium, Stuffed!

2012-11-02 Thread jimD
Patrick,
Am not sure but you appear to be one brick shy of a load.
-jimD

On Nov 2, 2012, at 3:06 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote:

 Back from the grocery store with S-M containing:
 
 Gal Mlk
 5 lb bg pttos
 Dz Egs
 Bnch Kale
 Small bag shredded parmesan
 1 onion
 1 lemon
 
 (Dinner: omelets, french fries, kale salad with dressing of lemon jc, olive 
 oil, and parmesan.)
 
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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Mike Schiller
The Soma's look like pinned rims ( which is fine). I wonder who makes them 
for them?  

Just an FYI but Compass Cycles stopped carrying the Grand Bois do to 
excessive rim depth. 

The Pacenti and H son+ look like the cream of the crop to me. Welded, wide 
and classy.



~mike




 

 Grand Bois - http://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/336618/404875/list.html

 Pacenti PL23 - 
 http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detailintItemID=398

 Soma Eldon - http://store.somafab.com/soelrim70.html

 Velo-Orange Raid/PBP/Diagonale - 
 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims.html

  

 From this list, it is probably obvious I'm leaning towards a traditional 
 looking, non-anodized, non-machined, single/double eyelet, silver rim. 
  Incidentally, I will be running 32 mm tires (Jack Brown Green’s, most 
 likely).  Thanks in advance.

  

 michael z

  

  


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Re: [RBW] Sackville, Medium, Stuffed!

2012-11-02 Thread Bertin753
I guestimate the load at 25 lb total including bag and kit. Handling affected 
but acceptable -- more so than same weight in low-set pannier, but after all 
it's a fixed gear and My handling is always very conservative.

I'd be interested to hear your experience both with capacity and with effect on 
handling. 

Overall the best saddlebag I've used.

Patrick Moore
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On Nov 2, 2012, at 7:04 PM, Stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote:

 How did she handle, Patrick?  I just received mine today.  Can't wait to load 
 her up for the Monday commute!
 
 Brian Hanson
 (Testing the water resistance of Sackvilles in) Seattle, WA
 
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 Back from the grocery store with S-M containing:
 
 Gal Mlk
 5 lb bg pttos
 Dz Egs
 Bnch Kale
 Small bag shredded parmesan
 1 onion
 1 lemon
 
 (Dinner: omelets, french fries, kale salad with dressing of lemon jc, olive 
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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Garth

 I have two sets of Mavic A719/T519 and they're fine.  I went with them 
over the Velocity Dyad as the builder I use said he preferred to use the 
Mavic's over the Velocity. 

Non machined sidewalls?  Maybe that matters for some but I won't be wearing 
out any rims in my lifetime from braking.

Same with OCR rears in the hands of a professional builder it doesn't 
matter. 

To each our own :)

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[RBW] Re: the precarious balance of rim development

2012-11-02 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
I missed this topic the first time around. I have a bike coming down the 
line and hope I have the patients or the timing is right to build up the 
rear with the forthcoming RivRim. The front is a cheapie pre-fab dynamo 
wheel I already bought. I'll see what happens as far as rim availability 
when the frame arrives and I get the other bits all ready to go. 

As far as building your own wheels... It can be rewarding. My advice would 
be that the first step be for you to read The Bicycle Wheel by Jobst 
Brandt.http://www.amazon.com/Bicycle-Wheel-3rd-Jobst-Brandt/dp/0960723668 If 
after reading (or skimming) the book you'll know if you want to press 
forward to build your own wheels. I've built up maybe a dozen wheel sets 
over the last 20 years and refer to the words of Jobst every time. In 
addition to all sorts of wheel theory info, the book has step by step wheel 
building instructions with great hand drawn illustrations. 

I don't have a tension gauge so I reference an existing similarly 
configured wheel for tension. I've had 1 wheel come loose -- about a month 
into riding the wheel I noticed the rear felt odd. All the spokes/nipples 
had worked loose. I rode home, tightened it up and haven't had any issues 
in 2 years. On another occasion I was truing an existing wheel (non-eyelett 
rim) and I overtightened and pulled the nipple through the rim... oops. My 
point being that there is some risk but also great satisfaction riding 
wheels you built yourself. 

--Andy

 

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 Have a pair of Phil Wood 'Rivy' 36h hubs I intend to build up during the 
 winter months for my Rambouillet, but am undecided on what rims to go 
 with.  A while back, Grant posted an insightful piece regarding the 
 precarious balance of rim development (i.e., 'Light, Strong, and 
 Inexpensive: Pick Two').  He then mentioned rolling out a new ‘Stouty’ rim 
 of which I've been pestering Rick for an ETA for nearly a year now, but he 
 confessed they were waiting as well.  Complete speculation on my part, but 
 I presume the delay may have something to do with Velocity moving it's 
 production from Australia to Florida.  Given this, I may just go ahead and 
 choose from the current offering of rims (such as the ones below), but 
 wanted to first touch base with this group to gather firsthand 
 builder/rider experiences or possibly learn of other options.  I'm 
 also curious of any considerations pertaining to tire mounting/seating 
 issues.

  

 Grand Bois - http://cyclesgrandbois.com/SHOP/336618/404875/list.html

 Pacenti PL23 - 
 http://www.bikelugs.com/store/index.php?strWebAction=item_detailintItemID=398

 Soma Eldon - http://store.somafab.com/soelrim70.html

 Velo-Orange Raid/PBP/Diagonale - 
 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/rims.html

  

 From this list, it is probably obvious I'm leaning towards a traditional 
 looking, non-anodized, non-machined, single/double eyelet, silver rim. 
  Incidentally, I will be running 32 mm tires (Jack Brown Green’s, most 
 likely).  Thanks in advance.

  

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Re: [RBW] Sackville, Medium, Stuffed!

2012-11-02 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
Brian -- Sackvilles do fine in Portland. Mine will eventually soak through 
if it's coming down good and I'm out for a while. The typical NW mist/light 
rain is a non-issue. -- Andy

On Friday, November 2, 2012 6:04:41 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:

 How did she handle, Patrick?  I just received mine today.  Can't wait to 
 load her up for the Monday commute!

 Brian Hanson
 (Testing the water resistance of Sackvilles in) Seattle, WA

 On Nov 2, 2012, at 3:06 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Back from the grocery store with S-M containing:

 Gal Mlk
 5 lb bg pttos
 Dz Egs
 Bnch Kale
 Small bag shredded parmesan
 1 onion
 1 lemon

 (Dinner: omelets, french fries, kale salad with dressing of lemon jc, 
 olive oil, and parmesan.)

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[RBW] Re: Someone please buy this: 53cm Legolas

2012-11-02 Thread cyclotourist
Auction ended at $1,825... I think that was right about what the BIN was.
Someone has a great new bike!


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 Not mine, no connection, just love the most elusive Rivendell!

 www.ebay.com/itm/150934574490



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Re: [RBW] Re: Someone please buy this: 53cm Legolas

2012-11-02 Thread Dave
Good think it was too small for you.  I could see you thinking about 
selling the car...



On 11/2/2012 9:30 PM, cyclotourist wrote:
Auction ended at $1,825... I think that was right about what the BIN 
was. Someone has a great new bike!



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www.ebay.com/itm/150934574490 http://www.ebay.com/itm/150934574490



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Re: [RBW] Re: Someone please buy this: 53cm Legolas

2012-11-02 Thread cyclotourist
A car, a kidney, a kid... I have more than one of each!



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  Good think it was too small for you.  I could see you thinking about
 selling the car...



 On 11/2/2012 9:30 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 Auction ended at $1,825... I think that was right about what the BIN was.
 Someone has a great new bike!


 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Not mine, no connection, just love the most elusive Rivendell!

 www.ebay.com/itm/150934574490



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Re: [RBW] Re: Someone please buy this: 53cm Legolas

2012-11-02 Thread Dave
And still no Legolas.  The next time a 60 cm comes up, your kids will 
need to hide!



On 11/2/2012 9:35 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

A car, a kidney, a kid... I have more than one of each!



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mailto:dfal...@charter.net wrote:


Good think it was too small for you.  I could see you thinking
about selling the car...



On 11/2/2012 9:30 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

Auction ended at $1,825... I think that was right about what the
BIN was. Someone has a great new bike!


On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM, cyclotourist
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www.ebay.com/itm/150934574490
http://www.ebay.com/itm/150934574490



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Re: [RBW] Re: Someone please buy this: 53cm Legolas

2012-11-02 Thread cyclotourist
Just biding my time...


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Dave dfal...@charter.net wrote:

  And still no Legolas.  The next time a 60 cm comes up, your kids will
 need to hide!



 On 11/2/2012 9:35 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

 A car, a kidney, a kid... I have more than one of each!



 On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:32 PM, Dave dfal...@charter.net wrote:

  Good think it was too small for you.  I could see you thinking about
 selling the car...



 On 11/2/2012 9:30 PM, cyclotourist wrote:

  Auction ended at $1,825... I think that was right about what the BIN
 was. Someone has a great new bike!


 On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 10:22 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 Not mine, no connection, just love the most elusive Rivendell!

 www.ebay.com/itm/150934574490



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