[RBW] Re: Podcast of interest: The Gospel According to St Grant
Thanks for posting, I enjoyed that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/GOs1kRh2Kc4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
Interesting... A Sam was the direction I was going in when first considering buying a Riv. Test rides at RivHQ put me on a Homer 'cause I was between Sam sizes. Wonder if the new sizing would have caused a different outcome. --Andy On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:48:18 PM UTC-8, rex wrote: hi all on the description of the sam hillborne it says: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing: 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm will replace the above sizes. The idea is to fit more riders in the midsizes really. Don't worry, you'll still fit. im not sure how long this has been up. have any of you bay area folks seen or heard anything about this news? thanks for your time joe kelly columbus ohio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hKelBgOwZ0cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask yourself, would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about them or brag in any way about them to anyone? Finally, Jan has adapted to super long rides or he must be an alienhowever I like his most recent bicycle and the writing of his travels is interesting. On Sunday, December 9, 2012 11:38:44 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: Got to tag along with some SF Randonndeurs, Ely from Ruth Bags, Ray from Mission Bags and David on their Jittery Jaunt 200k Permanent that took us to the small town of Valley Ford. I'm not too fond of doing this much mileage but was pretty curious about exploring around the Petaluma area so I figured it would be good to explore with people that knew how to get around and answer that dying question, Why all the miles? Those randonneur guys, you would think that would enjoy riding all those miles, but the ugly truth is that they don't. Apparently no buddy does. So what's the big deal? Why would anyone want to put their body through that much suffering? I went along searching for this answer. And finally got it after a day of recovering. When you have been riding your bike for the whole day and your whole body is telling you this is a stupid idea. The only thing that pushes you along, sometimes literary, is the other stupid people that is suffering with you. You learn a lot about yourself and others when you're cramping and riding up a steep grade in the middle of the night and the only thing that pushes you on is that there are other people waiting for you with more food. That sense of finishing something you set your mind to and doing it in the company of great people and amazing scenery with plenty of food breaks makes the whole experience a little less painful. Pictures prove that miles really don't matter but riding with amazingly supportive and friendly people do: http://flic.kr/s/aHsjD9oML9 -Manny Oh the wonderful healing properties of snickers. Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tueINvKpJKIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
This is a good strategy imho.I've often thought it would be cool if they alternated between 54,58,62 and 52,56,60, etc. from year to year (or two years) for the models with sparser size options. On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 10:48:18 PM UTC-5, rex wrote: hi all on the description of the sam hillborne it says: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing: 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm will replace the above sizes. The idea is to fit more riders in the midsizes really. Don't worry, you'll still fit. im not sure how long this has been up. have any of you bay area folks seen or heard anything about this news? thanks for your time joe kelly columbus ohio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7FUbSovSlCoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
Due to various job/life situations, I haven't ridden near as much as I would have liked in the past year. If it weren't for the Just Ride philosophy GP established starting in the latter days of Bridgestone, I probably woudn't have ridden at all. I would have believed that if I didn't have time to suit up and click in for at least 20 miles, it wasn't worth doing. But Grant wrote in a catalogue, A 10 minute ride is always worth it. He's right. 10 minutes or one hour or 6 or all day..all are available to me in non-space-age-looking clothes and regular shoes on comfortable, pretty bikes. Because someone had the sense to poke his head up and say, Hey! That's bike riding! Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:58:34 PM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: I definitely agree with the message Grant is promoting, which basically challenges/discards the turn-offs of cycling that prevent more people from getting out there and riding. Don't not-ride because you think you have to wear special clothes to ride. Don't not-ride because you think you need to have an uncomfortable racer bike to ride. Don't not-ride because you think you need to suffer to get a good ride and you don't want to suffer today. etc... One danger I could see, perhaps one could take offense is that if you do wear special clothes to ride, then you are un-Rivendell. If you do like clipless pedals, then you are un-Rivendell etc... I could see how one might come up with that interpretation upon reading some of Grant's writing, but Rivendell makes or has made bikes like the Legolas and the Roadeo that cater to different crowds than a Betty Foy, for example. I'm sure Grant will appreciate that for some people, some racer gear makes sense for them and their style of riding, and that they are still in the Riv family, but his message is centered around the most of you crowd, which is perfectly reasonable and makes sense from the Riv marketing perspective too :). Best, Toshi in Oakland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BM5P7daELPsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Advice on a possible Sam purchase for a new Riv buyer
That's exactly the point, isn't it? Makes great sense. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM, Chris Burgess cscottburg...@gmail.comwrote: A bike that can go fast but does not look like it needs to (if that's makes any sense) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Neck warming, fin.
Hmm, my GMail must have burped, this only showed up today. Looks like Gore no longer makes the gloves I have. Look closest to the Universal model, but these are padded in the palm and more knit material on the back. Not totally windproof, but good to a touch below 30. Then will use the MUSA halfmitts, and below that, heavier gloves. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Haven't been on the bike in the last few days as the roads are pretty much rutted ice right now. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Davidbea beada...@gmail.com wrote: Which Capo long finger gloves? I bought some Gore cold weather gloves that didn't do the job and ma looking for some suggestions as the weather turns. David Hays Kenmore, New York On Saturday, December 8, 2012 9:01:24 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Glad it worked for you. Today, I ended up doing 25 or so miles (not on a Riv) with temperatures around 30 to 35F. MUSA long pants, thin wool long sleeve top under a Hincapie wool jacket and the plastic thing on the head with no covering of vents. Oh, and Capo long finger gloves. Was just about right. Tomorrow will be a chicken and stay inside if we get the predicted 6 to 8 inches of snow. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 3:55 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.com wrote: Just now: 54*F, cross wind gusting to 17, Wabi Woolens ls jersey as single layer, 1/4 (cut lengthways, then each section sectioned again) Pendleton Clan Boyd scarf wrapped 1 1/4 times about neck under collar kept sensitive neck very comfortable. Best at about 6 wide and 24 long -- mine a wee bit short for optimum ease of use, but once you get it in place it seems to work. Yesterday I tried the 6 section of lower lycra tight -- relatively lightweight: not nearly as good. After two aborted payment attempts, the silk mock turtleneck dickies are on the way -- 4-to-8-business-days. Next week: 30% chance of snow mid week nights; fleece gaiters are waiting. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xtVwP91Ym3EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!
Yes! Hit the nail on the head. That's all I need to see on this topic. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 10, 2012, at 2:19 PM, soapscum smula...@gmail.com wrote: His criticism of the book is based on a lack of attention to details of those things the book is specifically NOT about. Brilliant. It's like saying you hated 'Skyfall' because it wasn't a western. On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:43:13 AM UTC-8, Anne Paulson wrote: My reaction exactly. He spent three paragraphs obsessing about some details about Tour de France trivia that Grant misstated. I'm sure that diehard TdF fans care about them, but most people don't. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thil...@gmail.com wrote: George isn't the world's clearest writer. Did he like the book, or dislike the book? Hard to tell. Clearly he's got an axe to grind, but his criticisms are pretty unfocused. The most specific criticism is that some racing stats were inaccurate? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dgEkLrRqg68J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/whIna5ik9jAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!
Hey All, Just for the sake of clarity, I am the OP and the only other post on this particular subject/thread from me was the very first one in which I shared the review of JR that 'george the cyclist' had written. So, not only did I not make mention of anything relating to cannabis, the Rastafarian perspective, Grant's perspective,..., I didn't even mention my own take on the review in question. For me, it was more like the old SNL 'point/counter point' skit. That stuff still makes me laugh. Love to all, and smooth tracks too, Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XCh8_AXWq5MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
I enjoy reading Grant's copy - old Bridgestone cats are a hoot. Style is part of it, and opinions are the rest. After all that, keeping alive the timelessness of good bicycles is important. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/araleigh003-1.jpg In 1985, my buddy bought a benchmade Mercian road racing frame languishing in a bike shop for peanuts. It was passe, it was orange, it couldn't sell against the tide of welded aluminium. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/vqp2rDr6bYIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Podcast of interest: The Gospel According to St Grant
With all the discussion over why the long miles it might be worth it to some to listen to their 2 part show on the 2011 running of Paris-Brest-Paris. Another great show. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 2:59:56 AM UTC-5, Tom Harrop wrote: Thanks for posting, I enjoyed that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/z9HQ9H8n2EAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
That's good news ... I think lol. 60cm is too short of TT for me ... 64cm is a bit too tall for standover height ... so hopefully the 62cm will have a 62-63cm TT . Then I could buy one :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/glbh7kcXhKEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's that tool Mark's using?
Dremels are fun. I can screw something up sooo much faster with one! They're like computers that way Steve Frederick, E.L. MI. On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 1:26 AM, John Blish jbl...@gmail.com wrote: You will probably find other uses as I am sure you realized. It makes cutting housing when re-cabling much quicker for me than using the Park cutters; there is less clean up in order to get a nice clean opening. There are stiff brushes you can get for a dremel that will clean things up - not necessarily bike things - pretty nice with just minor abrasion. Do be safe in terms of eye protection. I have had the light brown gritty cutting disc come apart while in use and it can go anywhere in any number of little pieces as it spins and flies off. Might not use it a lot right away but my bet is that you will not be sorry you got it. -jb On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Happens every time. I went in for a 15 dollar tubing cutter..left with a 75 dollar Dremel tool. Now, time to start dremeling stuff... Joe Bernard On Saturday, December 8, 2012 2:13:13 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Hmm..I like this idea. Thanks! Joe Bernard On Saturday, December 8, 2012 12:23:37 PM UTC-8, Nick Worthington wrote: For waht it's wort: I use a tubing cutter for cutting fender stays. Easier to store, and may be cheaper. http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/catalog/servlet/Search?storeId=10051langId=-1catalogId=10053keyword=pipe%20cutterNs=NoneNtpr=1Ntpc=1selectedCatgry=SEARCHALL Nick W. On Friday, December 7, 2012 4:15:59 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/T4gbbOdBA_kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- John Blish Minneapolis MN USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:08:26 AM UTC-8, charlie wrote: To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask yourself, would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about them or brag in any way about them to anyone? I remember Grant had a blog post about that earlier this year. I sent him an email saying that while I frequently engaged in rides of 80+ miles a lot of this has to do with the fact that I don't drive. I live in Portland, OR and if I want to check out the view from Larch Mtn, see Multnomah Falls or get into the woods in the Mt Hood National Forest then I'm gonna ride out there and that means doing a long ride. I'm all for rambling around town or a leisurely ramble through Forest Park, but again, if I want the epic view from the top of Larch Mtn, then I gotta ride up there. It's erroneous to assume that the only reason people ride long distances is because it feels good when you stop or for bragging rights. Sure, two years ago I rode my Quickbeam all the way to the top of Larch Mtn and back on a hot day and I posted a link to the pictures of the ride here. But it's not bragging it's sharing experience. Yeah, I wanted to see what that was like and if I could do it, but it was also a quite pleasurable experience. I've never done a road race, triathlon or participated in any kind of organized century or charity ride other than riding brevets. The idea of riding an organized century holds absolutely no appeal. Like Ted D. stated above I love riding bicycles, and the more time I spend on a bicycle, the happier I am. What's so hard to understand about that? --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/G9vD46_B-8kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
I vote for Honjos with Berthoud hardware and DIY rubber flaps. +1. Not a fan of hammered at all, but I do like the smooth Honjos. Honjo hardware though is a pain, and IMO distracts from the clean lines of the bike. If Berthoud hardware works on your set up, a great choice. Mike Kone - Peter White: I have bought from both and like them both. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/L9Hp_BvmJBoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
If the strategy is the same as the mixte - which did change size this year - the c-t seat tube gets shorter but the tt (virtual or otherwise) stays the same. I went through this with my SO's Betty earlier this year. The 48 was just too small and she was bottoming out the seat post on the 52 to be comfortable. Then voila! The 52 becomes a 50 in the next run of frames and all is well. Dan Marin On Dec 12, 2012, at 12:07 AM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting... A Sam was the direction I was going in when first considering buying a Riv. Test rides at RivHQ put me on a Homer 'cause I was between Sam sizes. Wonder if the new sizing would have caused a different outcome. --Andy On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:48:18 PM UTC-8, rex wrote: hi all on the description of the sam hillborne it says: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing: 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm will replace the above sizes. The idea is to fit more riders in the midsizes really. Don't worry, you'll still fit. im not sure how long this has been up. have any of you bay area folks seen or heard anything about this news? thanks for your time joe kelly columbus ohio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hKelBgOwZ0cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
So the 51 and 55 will be 650b? I like the idea of a mid-sized bike in 650b, defintely would expand the range of riders that way. Dont get me wrong the AHH is beautiful, having owned a couple but at almost half the price getting someone on a mid-sized 650b frame would be sweet. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: That's good news ... I think lol. 60cm is too short of TT for me ... 64cm is a bit too tall for standover height ... so hopefully the 62cm will have a 62-63cm TT . Then I could buy one :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/glbh7kcXhKEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
The first metal fenders I ever used were Berthouds from the local bike shop. They actually went on easy enough and worked well. I put them on my Hilsen yet it is now sporting SKS. While the coverage isn't as good, the SKS allow for a larger tired. My radnonneuring bike sports VO fenders and while I have grown to have reservations about VO products, the fenders have held up well and work well. As others have mentioned, Mike Kone is a really nice guy, very helpful and I wouldn't hesitate to get fenders through him. --mike On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:20:25 PM UTC-8, William wrote: I'm in the market for some metal fenders. If you could get a particular model of fender for the same price with the same hardware in Stainless Steel or Aluminum, which would you want? Is it Stainless for durability and Aluminum for light weight? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RyGYhZWS6CoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
wonder if double top tubes will be a part of the new sizing strat? On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 7:48:18 PM UTC-8, rex wrote: hi all on the description of the sam hillborne it says: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing: 51cm, 55cm, 58cm, and 62cm will replace the above sizes. The idea is to fit more riders in the midsizes really. Don't worry, you'll still fit. im not sure how long this has been up. have any of you bay area folks seen or heard anything about this news? thanks for your time joe kelly columbus ohio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/375UxwsaLxoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:08:26 AM UTC-5, charlie wrote: To quote from a Grant podcast as best as I can recollect.Ask yourself, would I ride these super long rides if I could not talk about them or brag in any way about them to anyone? The answer would be a resounding yes for the majority of people that do it, even if they asked themselves such a silly question. Randonneuring isn't exactly the cool kids' sport and there's not much to brag about it. Nobody really cares - it's eccentric as much or more so than it is impressive. In any event, the prospect of bragging, or sharing a war story, is a ridiculously poor motivator when undertaking an extraordinary challenge, cycling or otherwise. A facebook post or watercooler chat isn't really going to cut the cake given the time/energy/commitment/sacrifice/money/etc. that goes into working towards that goal for months/years at a time. The skepticism underlying that quote seems a little misplaced and it's a little presumptuous to question people's motives for doing what they do. Ride 20 miles or 200. Climb Mt. Diablo or Mt. Everest. Whatever makes people happy. We need to spend more time doing what makes us happy - maybe that's motivation enough ... it's certainly more incentive than bragging rights. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TA1M1YCbgosJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
Yes, the hammered fenders ARE beautiful.. For your Stumpy, I think fluted would also look worthy. DO post pics... that's a beautiful bike. BB On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:20:25 PM UTC-5, William wrote: I'm in the market for some metal fenders. If you could get a particular model of fender for the same price with the same hardware in Stainless Steel or Aluminum, which would you want? Is it Stainless for durability and Aluminum for light weight? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/6pJjlzt5rbYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 06:09 -0800, Mike wrote: I remember Grant had a blog post about that earlier this year. I sent him an email saying that while I frequently engaged in rides of 80+ miles a lot of this has to do with the fact that I don't drive. I live in Portland, OR and if I want to check out the view from Larch Mtn, see Multnomah Falls or get into the woods in the Mt Hood National Forest then I'm gonna ride out there and that means doing a long ride. I'm all for rambling around town or a leisurely ramble through Forest Park, but again, if I want the epic view from the top of Larch Mtn, then I gotta ride up there. It's erroneous to assume that the only reason people ride long distances is because it feels good when you stop or for bragging rights. At a certain fitness level (in terms of both overall training for distance) rides in the 80-100 mile range are simply ordinary rides, just as for many riders a 50 mile ride is nothing special, just an ordinary ride. Bragging has nothing to do with it. Neither does feeling good when you stop. It feels good to ride; that's why we do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
I wish I had both the conditioning and the time to ride 50 miles at a clip. I can usually escape for 20 milers, though and it is refreshing to clear your head and just focus on the ride instead of all the other crap in your daily life so I can see doing more at a time one day. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 06:09 -0800, Mike wrote: I remember Grant had a blog post about that earlier this year. I sent him an email saying that while I frequently engaged in rides of 80+ miles a lot of this has to do with the fact that I don't drive. I live in Portland, OR and if I want to check out the view from Larch Mtn, see Multnomah Falls or get into the woods in the Mt Hood National Forest then I'm gonna ride out there and that means doing a long ride. I'm all for rambling around town or a leisurely ramble through Forest Park, but again, if I want the epic view from the top of Larch Mtn, then I gotta ride up there. It's erroneous to assume that the only reason people ride long distances is because it feels good when you stop or for bragging rights. At a certain fitness level (in terms of both overall training for distance) rides in the 80-100 mile range are simply ordinary rides, just as for many riders a 50 mile ride is nothing special, just an ordinary ride. Bragging has nothing to do with it. Neither does feeling good when you stop. It feels good to ride; that's why we do it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
I'd Boeshield the inside of steel rims. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/wSkN4Xo8xScJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
At a certain fitness level (in terms of both overall training for distance) rides in the 80-100 mile range are simply ordinary rides, Exactly. And I would add, I don't do any specific training for randonneuring. I don't do intervals. I don't have set training schedules where all my rides are planned out for the next couple of weeks building up for training rides. I simply just ride, a little more frequently and little farther in anticipation of the upcoming brevet series. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/D-y5iaz6l6UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!
+1 And for myself, no matter what Grant writes, if I agree or disagree, I thoroughly enjoy how he writes. -JimD On Dec 11, 2012, at 3:59 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I tried to stay away from this thread, but this post makes me speak. I haven't read the book, but I've read most of what Grant has written since 1994, and my take on his opinions and style is that, if anyone is offended by what GP says, he or she deserves to be offended. There's not an offensive word in anything I've seen of his writing; the problems are in the readers. Get a goddam life! I disagree with a lot of what GP says and likes, but in no way is there any possible way for a reasonable person to be offended by it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale
Oh this is great. I have a PBH of 88.9. Is this frame too small for me? On Monday, December 10, 2012 12:24:01 PM UTC-8, Mojo wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-All-Rounder-Excellent-Condition-/221164983311?_trksid=p5197.m1992_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4061894373677924007%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D251197730711%26 Not mine and I am not associated. Someone here? It's lovely with good to excellent components, but the time-built seems wrong. My late 1995 built All-Rounder has less ornate lugs and a flat top tube. Were the lugs seen here and the rising top tube being used in 1996 or 97? Ah, really who cares. What a great looking bike. Needs fenders though. It is priced its worth I think; not a bargain but not gouging. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Z0pf2JqkUOoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
On Dec 11, 9:53 pm, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Base on Jan's post, it sounds like riding a light, fast tire on a Rando would be better than puncture protected heavier tires due to fasterness of tire and making the ride easier? I wouldn't mind having to change a flat on a Rando as much as I would on a commute to work. So maybe I can get a light set for longer ride, though Manny seems MAN-ny enough to do his long rides on the Marathon tires. We calculated the speed difference between the fastest (Mitsuboshi Trimline) and the slowest (Panaracer Nifty-Swifty) 650B tire for Paris- Brest-Paris to be about 8-9 hours for a slower rider. Today, there are even faster tires (and perhaps also slower ones - we didn't test the Marathons) available, which makes the difference even greater. Even if you have two flats, you'll be far ahead on the faster tire. That said, if you go to wide tires, you don't need to fear flats any longer. I commute on Grand Bois Hetres, ride randonneur brevets on them, use them on gravel roads, etc., and I've had two flats in over 16,000 km (10,000 miles), both on very worn tires with very obvious causes (long steel wire, sharp piece of freshly crushed rock on snow- covered road). Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale
Real looker for sure. The specs say mountain bike, to me rather than all'rounder, or at least B-stone XO-inspired. I'd love to add it to my fleet and it would fit me but there are currently other demands on my limited discretionary funds. Steve, EL, MI. On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Wow! That is pretty. I have seen these on the grainy pics of the RReaders, but never in color. Very nice looking bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/oifsfsFC_ygJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale
It has a long toptube in relation to the seattube - MTB low-standover style - so you need to judge based on the toptube. At my 80ish PBH the frame is technically within range, but certainly not with that stem and dropbars. As currently set up, it may fit you. Joe Bernard On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:56:28 AM UTC-8, Chris wrote: Oh this is great. I have a PBH of 88.9. Is this frame too small for me? On Monday, December 10, 2012 12:24:01 PM UTC-8, Mojo wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-All-Rounder-Excellent-Condition-/221164983311?_trksid=p5197.m1992_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4061894373677924007%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D251197730711%26 Not mine and I am not associated. Someone here? It's lovely with good to excellent components, but the time-built seems wrong. My late 1995 built All-Rounder has less ornate lugs and a flat top tube. Were the lugs seen here and the rising top tube being used in 1996 or 97? Ah, really who cares. What a great looking bike. Needs fenders though. It is priced its worth I think; not a bargain but not gouging. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5M_fce_Jie0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
Sorry, I mean fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Pi5p_AV6GV4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Another perspective, by George!
Hey All, Grant his the courage to speak his mind. I like this, but it almost ensures that any one person will not like everything Grant says. That includes myself. The one recurring thing I hear inside my head while reading something from Grant is that he loves bikes as much as I do. That does not mean we would be fast friends. I do, however, bump into him (very) occasionally and call him by name. He says 'hello' back and then usually gives me a look that says to me 'am I supposed to know you?'. I just smile and move on. I am pretty sure he did not go for a ride on the mountain (Diablo, and often alone, it seems) so he could hang out with me. Regards, Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DnSm4lgfBMsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes
I haven't made anything from scratch, but I made a banana bag that I really like out of a Swiss Army gasmask bag. Cut two holes for the straps and sewed around the edges to stop fraying, sewed the bottom corners together to narrow the bag for thigh clearance, and cut off the straps and attached D rings. The original strap can be re-attached for off-bike carrying, but I think I haven't removed the bag once since I made it 3 years ago. I bought several more of these bags for my other bikes, but haven't gotten around to making more. Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Cheers, Gernot Thailand On Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:47:13 AM UTC+7, Eli Koral wrote: Andy! nice stuff. The turn buttons are a particularly nice addition. Did you already have all the leatherworking tools? Or was this project an excuse to buy tools? (I adore those kind of projects). Eli On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:57:06 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: The little basket-mounted pouches are a cool idea. I've been thinking of making the same sort of thing but a little larger for the box on my Bakfiets. It's funny... the Bakfiets has got a cargo box big enough for an adult or 4 small children to ride in but I'm often at a loss for a good place to put small items like a camera or sunglasses. As far as stuff that's actually gone beyond an idea... The kid seat http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6812051114/ comes and goes but the leather mud flap is always on my Homer. The wife has an almost matching kid seat and mud flaphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7819921346/on her Betty Foy I replaced the snaps on my Slickersack with turn buttonshttps://picasaweb.google.com/113148323994353762329/SlickersackImprovement?authuser=0feat=directlinkso it'd be easier to go on/off with stuff in the bag. This little dealhttps://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YDPGrUWUxKfSDl9I2ssFn9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlinkgets the light out in front of my basket 'cause the beam from the handlebar mounted light was obscured when I had stuff in the basket I think my coolest homemade bike accessory is the double kid seathttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6873390593/for my Big Dummy. I love my Homer and have great adventures on my Riv, but the good (and bad) times I have sharing the bike with my kids are the stuff I'll smile about on my deathbed. --Andy On Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:05:20 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Hello all and Happy Thanksgiving! I just wanted to see if anyone else in the Riv community enjoys making accessories for their bikes. If this is the case, I'd love to see what innovative things you've made. In the meantime, I'll post some images of things that I've made. During the past 2 years, I have been trying to perfect the rando bag but ultimately have been displeased with its lack of sturdiness. I enjoy making them, using them for a while, then gifting them to other cycling friends--this is great because it constantly gives me the opportunity to make new bags. While rando bags look great, I have yet to make one as versatile as a Wald basket. And after many years of debate, I have decided to stick with my Wald. With that in mind, I missed the tool pockets typically found at the back of a rando bag. So, I recently decided to create a couple of pouches to hang on the back side of my basket. Both pouches are 2 inches deep, 4 inches wide, and 5 inches high. There is also an extra 3 inches of flap available if I try to over-stuff the pouches. It was relatively easy to construct these little bags because canvas is such a forgiving material to work with. I have plastic stiffeners inside the bags (very similar to the ones in Acorn bags) and velcro attachments to keep everything in place. While these dimensions may seem small, I have all of my tools in the left pouch (inner tube, patch kit, multi tool, a pair of CO2 cartridges, 3 tire levers, zip ties, and 4 Irish straps). The pouch on the right is used to keep my cell phone, garage clicker, and keys; there is quite a bit of space left for snacks, a saddle cover, and a bandana. I'd love to see the folks at Riv create some Sackville versions of these because they're extremely versatile. Have a look--I am attaching JPEG images to this post. Also, I'd love to see any other accessories people make for their bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/VFDlh5DzltUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
I'll echo everything Mike has written here. I'll add something simple: ADVENTURE. Brevets are always an adventure. There's always a tad of doubt and suffering. Exploring is poking around the hills and stopping to make tea. Adventure holds some risk, and its rewards are deeply internal - along with the fellowship of those who share the adventure. Even touring can be an adventure. Adventure touring! http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/7585577892/in/set-72157630609991210 Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:59:54 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: At a certain fitness level (in terms of both overall training for distance) rides in the 80-100 mile range are simply ordinary rides, Exactly. And I would add, I don't do any specific training for randonneuring. I don't do intervals. I don't have set training schedules where all my rides are planned out for the next couple of weeks building up for training rides. I simply just ride, a little more frequently and little farther in anticipation of the upcoming brevet series. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mk7UCUw4QiQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
On Dec 12, 9:37 am, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I mean fenders. Thanks for that clarification. I'd Boeshield the inside of steel rims. left me with a nightmare of fixing that first flat Phil B -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
I don't think people need to be stuck in buckets in the sense that you must have fun every time you get on a bike. (I believe) Grant's point is not to label people and the reasons they get on bikes. The point is, if you are not just riding because you believe you need to ride so far or suffer so much in order to make the riding worthwhile, then you should re-evaluate. As someone else pointed out, getting out for a 5 minute spin with no goals in mind is 100x better than saying I can't ride today because I don't have the 2 hours to make it worthwhile. I agree with that 100%. I do long distance cycling events to serve as goals/motivation and to keep me in shape. I'm raising two kids and I don't the time to spend hours and hours on my bike training for my long distance events. What this means for me, is that if I want to do the long distance events, then I have to take my 30 minute trainer rides (after my kids go to sleep) and do intervals and suffer. I'm not going to be apologetic about being an interval-doer. It fits my cycling needs and goals and allows me to take leisurely rides with my family during the weekend. To restate: I think the point is to not to over-analyze why you are riding (there are many perfectly valid reasons to ride), but to examine what the hurdles are that are keeping us from just riding more often. Best, Toshi in Oakland, CA On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I'll echo everything Mike has written here. I'll add something simple: ADVENTURE. Brevets are always an adventure. There's always a tad of doubt and suffering. Exploring is poking around the hills and stopping to make tea. Adventure holds some risk, and its rewards are deeply internal - along with the fellowship of those who share the adventure. Even touring can be an adventure. Adventure touring! http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671211@N02/7585577892/in/set-72157630609991210 Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:59:54 AM UTC-8, Mike wrote: At a certain fitness level (in terms of both overall training for distance) rides in the 80-100 mile range are simply ordinary rides, Exactly. And I would add, I don't do any specific training for randonneuring. I don't do intervals. I don't have set training schedules where all my rides are planned out for the next couple of weeks building up for training rides. I simply just ride, a little more frequently and little farther in anticipation of the upcoming brevet series. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Mk7UCUw4QiQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Totally missed this Rivendell Poster!
This is going up in one of my spaces, no question. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pr12.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/rsJN-_urd4EJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
Stainless steel resists corrosion well. I and many other riders of late have a completely uncoated stainless steel bike. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:37:43 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Sorry, I mean fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/X9Ws6xJprEAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
I would think the debris that fenders kick up would wear away that boeshield pretty fast. I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly surface rust. On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I mean fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Pi5p_AV6GV4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
Thanks, Grant, for your graceful and open reply. As I wish you and your business well, I'm glad that you read my post, for whatever it may be worth. I'll shoot you an email off-list. On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:47:00 PM UTC-8, gep7...@gmail.com wrote: .. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8mkRbeaCOpQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
A 55 Sam in 650b wheel size with a single top tube would be nice. Looks like the top tube would be around 58cm. I could go for something like that! ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yyHFlfh-w2kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne: For the next batch in 2013 sizing is changing
All the details will be given sometime I'm sure ... lol. Like ... will they all be made in Taiwan or USA now ? All sizes take caliper brakes now ? Does the slope remain a 6 degrees or increased to allow for greater flexibility in sizing ? Colors .. geometry ... etc. but ya' know inquiring minds like to know when we're teased with an oh btw... the sizing is changing ho hum ho hum :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/TC6uD93fTdgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes
That's a great modification, Gernot. I really like the taper. --Andy On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:17:18 AM UTC-8, Earl Grey wrote: I haven't made anything from scratch, but I made a banana bag that I really like out of a Swiss Army gasmask bag. Cut two holes for the straps and sewed around the edges to stop fraying, sewed the bottom corners together to narrow the bag for thigh clearance, and cut off the straps and attached D rings. The original strap can be re-attached for off-bike carrying, but I think I haven't removed the bag once since I made it 3 years ago. I bought several more of these bags for my other bikes, but haven't gotten around to making more. Photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gernothuber/ Cheers, Gernot Thailand On Sunday, December 9, 2012 2:47:13 AM UTC+7, Eli Koral wrote: Andy! nice stuff. The turn buttons are a particularly nice addition. Did you already have all the leatherworking tools? Or was this project an excuse to buy tools? (I adore those kind of projects). Eli On Tuesday, November 27, 2012 11:57:06 PM UTC-8, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: The little basket-mounted pouches are a cool idea. I've been thinking of making the same sort of thing but a little larger for the box on my Bakfiets. It's funny... the Bakfiets has got a cargo box big enough for an adult or 4 small children to ride in but I'm often at a loss for a good place to put small items like a camera or sunglasses. As far as stuff that's actually gone beyond an idea... The kid seat http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6812051114/ comes and goes but the leather mud flap is always on my Homer. The wife has an almost matching kid seat and mud flaphttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/7819921346/on her Betty Foy I replaced the snaps on my Slickersack with turn buttonshttps://picasaweb.google.com/113148323994353762329/SlickersackImprovement?authuser=0feat=directlinkso it'd be easier to go on/off with stuff in the bag. This little dealhttps://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YDPGrUWUxKfSDl9I2ssFn9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlinkgets the light out in front of my basket 'cause the beam from the handlebar mounted light was obscured when I had stuff in the basket I think my coolest homemade bike accessory is the double kid seathttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/6873390593/for my Big Dummy. I love my Homer and have great adventures on my Riv, but the good (and bad) times I have sharing the bike with my kids are the stuff I'll smile about on my deathbed. --Andy On Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:05:20 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Hello all and Happy Thanksgiving! I just wanted to see if anyone else in the Riv community enjoys making accessories for their bikes. If this is the case, I'd love to see what innovative things you've made. In the meantime, I'll post some images of things that I've made. During the past 2 years, I have been trying to perfect the rando bag but ultimately have been displeased with its lack of sturdiness. I enjoy making them, using them for a while, then gifting them to other cycling friends--this is great because it constantly gives me the opportunity to make new bags. While rando bags look great, I have yet to make one as versatile as a Wald basket. And after many years of debate, I have decided to stick with my Wald. With that in mind, I missed the tool pockets typically found at the back of a rando bag. So, I recently decided to create a couple of pouches to hang on the back side of my basket. Both pouches are 2 inches deep, 4 inches wide, and 5 inches high. There is also an extra 3 inches of flap available if I try to over-stuff the pouches. It was relatively easy to construct these little bags because canvas is such a forgiving material to work with. I have plastic stiffeners inside the bags (very similar to the ones in Acorn bags) and velcro attachments to keep everything in place. While these dimensions may seem small, I have all of my tools in the left pouch (inner tube, patch kit, multi tool, a pair of CO2 cartridges, 3 tire levers, zip ties, and 4 Irish straps). The pouch on the right is used to keep my cell phone, garage clicker, and keys; there is quite a bit of space left for snacks, a saddle cover, and a bandana. I'd love to see the folks at Riv create some Sackville versions of these because they're extremely versatile. Have a look--I am attaching JPEG images to this post. Also, I'd love to see any other accessories people make for their bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xmAF14lrf4QJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
Re: [RBW] Re: Why all the miles?
On Dec 12, 2012, at 11:35, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I'll echo everything Mike has written here. I'll add something simple: ADVENTURE. Exactly! Someone (on a brevet, I think) told me: If you don't wish you were somewhere else at least once, it's not really an adventure. More and more, though, for me that happens before I even start riding. I wish I were still in bed! I really don't understand why all brevets have to start in the wee hours of the morning. Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Homer Hilsen Frame/Fork
I'll be out of the country from the 15th to the 27th of december and might not be able to answer any questions till I get back. Happy Holidays! Mike On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:42:41 AM UTC-5, greenteadrinkers wrote: Hi, Not sure if you still have the frame set for sale, if so, I was wondering if its a 650b or 700c model? Thanks, Scott On Friday, November 2, 2012 12:56:48 PM UTC-4, Mike B wrote: Hello all! I had my Rivendell frame up for sale this summer but there were no takers so I have reduced the price a fair bit. It is a 56cm A. Homer Hilsen frame, fork, and Tange Levin alloy njs headset. It is a Toyo frame that was purchased from Rivendell last fall. I am the only owner. I didn't like the original color and sent it off to Tom Kellogg for a repaint. The color is a dark olive green and creamy head tube with a clear coat to finish up. It's solid color with that slightly wet look and No pearl or Metallic. I really like it and think he did a fantastic job. I didn't bother with replacing the decals but if you want them I think you can get them from Riv. The head badge is, of course, sitting proudly on the head tube. The frame was only ridden from February to May, mostly commuting to work and a handful of forty or fifty mile rides thrown in for good measure. It has a couple of scratches from normal use and a tiny ding in one spot which I have tried to show in the pics. I have used frame saver on the insides and all in all I would consider it to be in great condition. I am in Manhattan and if anyone is interested and wants to they are welcome to come by and check it out. If you can get here that is... Obviously it is still a bit crazy in the city but I think I could have the bike boxed and shipped by the middle of the week. I am asking $1050 but would like the buyer to pay for shipping. I will pack it up nice and bring it to Fed Ex or UPS. My bike box is at work right now and there is a giant crumpled crane blocking my path so I can't figure out the box dimensions till I can get into work and get a quote from one of the shipping companies. Its a riv bike box if anyone knows the actual dimensions and wants to figure shipping costs. Mike P.S. I don't post very often so when I do it still takes time to go through and I seem to get lost in the shuffle here and there but I will do my best to answer any questions. Here are pics... http://www.flickr.com/photos/36747164@N05/sets/72157631912380220/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/hkrha6pvlFwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS 56cm Homer Hilsen Frame/Fork
Hello Scott Frame is still available. It is a 650b. Cheers Mike On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:42:41 AM UTC-5, greenteadrinkers wrote: Hi, Not sure if you still have the frame set for sale, if so, I was wondering if its a 650b or 700c model? Thanks, Scott On Friday, November 2, 2012 12:56:48 PM UTC-4, Mike B wrote: Hello all! I had my Rivendell frame up for sale this summer but there were no takers so I have reduced the price a fair bit. It is a 56cm A. Homer Hilsen frame, fork, and Tange Levin alloy njs headset. It is a Toyo frame that was purchased from Rivendell last fall. I am the only owner. I didn't like the original color and sent it off to Tom Kellogg for a repaint. The color is a dark olive green and creamy head tube with a clear coat to finish up. It's solid color with that slightly wet look and No pearl or Metallic. I really like it and think he did a fantastic job. I didn't bother with replacing the decals but if you want them I think you can get them from Riv. The head badge is, of course, sitting proudly on the head tube. The frame was only ridden from February to May, mostly commuting to work and a handful of forty or fifty mile rides thrown in for good measure. It has a couple of scratches from normal use and a tiny ding in one spot which I have tried to show in the pics. I have used frame saver on the insides and all in all I would consider it to be in great condition. I am in Manhattan and if anyone is interested and wants to they are welcome to come by and check it out. If you can get here that is... Obviously it is still a bit crazy in the city but I think I could have the bike boxed and shipped by the middle of the week. I am asking $1050 but would like the buyer to pay for shipping. I will pack it up nice and bring it to Fed Ex or UPS. My bike box is at work right now and there is a giant crumpled crane blocking my path so I can't figure out the box dimensions till I can get into work and get a quote from one of the shipping companies. Its a riv bike box if anyone knows the actual dimensions and wants to figure shipping costs. Mike P.S. I don't post very often so when I do it still takes time to go through and I seem to get lost in the shuffle here and there but I will do my best to answer any questions. Here are pics... http://www.flickr.com/photos/36747164@N05/sets/72157631912380220/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AiS8i1jlom0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
But what I find offensive (that may be too stronga word) are the notions that serious riders dress, ride bikes like, and train like racers. Agree with this completely. For the most part I ignore stuff about bikes and riding I don't cotton to. Life is too short. But this whole notion that one type of riding and rider is serious and the rest of us are what ... goofing around I guess really bugs me. Especially so when one considers the term is most often used by amateurs. I am sure to many bike racing is fun and to almost all it is a healthy way to pass time when not at work or attending to your personal obligations. Amateur racing in the end is a hobby like any other hobby. Certainly the fact one races bikes for fun does not make one more 'serious' about cycling than the person who uses a bike as primary transport, or cycles around the world, or collects old bikes, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ZvcTO4Gb2i4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly surface rust. Stainless or chrome plated like the Walds? Chrome I can see wearing down and rusting. Or it could be the stainless fenders are rusting where someone used a non-stainless steel fastener. Berthoud hardware is either aluminum or stainless, so this should not be a problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MWp2PHG3sIUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes
I haven't attempted this yet, but I have been thinking about hacking together a locking metal or plastic box for the bike. Something like the Keven's bag, but with a lock. I usually leave my bike locked in the secure parking garage in my building, but even still I don't like the idea of leaving my small toolkit/tube/misc. in a bag, which may be too tempting for the wrong person. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I could find a lightweight locking box? Greg Oakland, CA On Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:05:20 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Hello all and Happy Thanksgiving! I just wanted to see if anyone else in the Riv community enjoys making accessories for their bikes. If this is the case, I'd love to see what innovative things you've made. In the meantime, I'll post some images of things that I've made. During the past 2 years, I have been trying to perfect the rando bag but ultimately have been displeased with its lack of sturdiness. I enjoy making them, using them for a while, then gifting them to other cycling friends--this is great because it constantly gives me the opportunity to make new bags. While rando bags look great, I have yet to make one as versatile as a Wald basket. And after many years of debate, I have decided to stick with my Wald. With that in mind, I missed the tool pockets typically found at the back of a rando bag. So, I recently decided to create a couple of pouches to hang on the back side of my basket. Both pouches are 2 inches deep, 4 inches wide, and 5 inches high. There is also an extra 3 inches of flap available if I try to over-stuff the pouches. It was relatively easy to construct these little bags because canvas is such a forgiving material to work with. I have plastic stiffeners inside the bags (very similar to the ones in Acorn bags) and velcro attachments to keep everything in place. While these dimensions may seem small, I have all of my tools in the left pouch (inner tube, patch kit, multi tool, a pair of CO2 cartridges, 3 tire levers, zip ties, and 4 Irish straps). The pouch on the right is used to keep my cell phone, garage clicker, and keys; there is quite a bit of space left for snacks, a saddle cover, and a bandana. I'd love to see the folks at Riv create some Sackville versions of these because they're extremely versatile. Have a look--I am attaching JPEG images to this post. Also, I'd love to see any other accessories people make for their bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l-KeAkS5wvoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Homemade Accessories for Bikes
Try a Pelican case? They come in ALL sizes. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:15:50 PM UTC-8, Greg J wrote: I haven't attempted this yet, but I have been thinking about hacking together a locking metal or plastic box for the bike. Something like the Keven's bag, but with a lock. I usually leave my bike locked in the secure parking garage in my building, but even still I don't like the idea of leaving my small toolkit/tube/misc. in a bag, which may be too tempting for the wrong person. Does anyone have any suggestions as to where I could find a lightweight locking box? Greg Oakland, CA On Thursday, November 22, 2012 11:05:20 AM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Hello all and Happy Thanksgiving! I just wanted to see if anyone else in the Riv community enjoys making accessories for their bikes. If this is the case, I'd love to see what innovative things you've made. In the meantime, I'll post some images of things that I've made. During the past 2 years, I have been trying to perfect the rando bag but ultimately have been displeased with its lack of sturdiness. I enjoy making them, using them for a while, then gifting them to other cycling friends--this is great because it constantly gives me the opportunity to make new bags. While rando bags look great, I have yet to make one as versatile as a Wald basket. And after many years of debate, I have decided to stick with my Wald. With that in mind, I missed the tool pockets typically found at the back of a rando bag. So, I recently decided to create a couple of pouches to hang on the back side of my basket. Both pouches are 2 inches deep, 4 inches wide, and 5 inches high. There is also an extra 3 inches of flap available if I try to over-stuff the pouches. It was relatively easy to construct these little bags because canvas is such a forgiving material to work with. I have plastic stiffeners inside the bags (very similar to the ones in Acorn bags) and velcro attachments to keep everything in place. While these dimensions may seem small, I have all of my tools in the left pouch (inner tube, patch kit, multi tool, a pair of CO2 cartridges, 3 tire levers, zip ties, and 4 Irish straps). The pouch on the right is used to keep my cell phone, garage clicker, and keys; there is quite a bit of space left for snacks, a saddle cover, and a bandana. I'd love to see the folks at Riv create some Sackville versions of these because they're extremely versatile. Have a look--I am attaching JPEG images to this post. Also, I'd love to see any other accessories people make for their bikes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/1_RjN55oyqwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Metal fender coinflip: Stainless or Aluminum?
Chrome plated, yeah where the chrome has flaked off they have rust but are still sturdy. On Dec 12, 2012 6:00 PM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Peugeot with steel fenders, about 20 years old and still look ok. They are rusty as hell inside but my bikes live indoors so mostly surface rust. Stainless or chrome plated like the Walds? Chrome I can see wearing down and rusting. Or it could be the stainless fenders are rusting where someone used a non-stainless steel fastener. Berthoud hardware is either aluminum or stainless, so this should not be a problem. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/MWp2PHG3sIUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
I ride a lot of city park trails, especially with my daughter, or there's a 26-mile-round paved trail that I hit a lot just for a weekly aerobic ride if no place else comes to mind. We see a lot of the same lycra guys there, and many of them are smug if not condescending about upright bikes and baggy clothes. They don't pass me, though. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:55:36 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: But what I find offensive (that may be too stronga word) are the notions that serious riders dress, ride bikes like, and train like racers. Agree with this completely. For the most part I ignore stuff about bikes and riding I don't cotton to. Life is too short. But this whole notion that one type of riding and rider is serious and the rest of us are what ... goofing around I guess really bugs me. Especially so when one considers the term is most often used by amateurs. I am sure to many bike racing is fun and to almost all it is a healthy way to pass time when not at work or attending to your personal obligations. Amateur racing in the end is a hobby like any other hobby. Certainly the fact one races bikes for fun does not make one more 'serious' about cycling than the person who uses a bike as primary transport, or cycles around the world, or collects old bikes, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Fv43Yagkoh8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
I used to think it mattered who I passed and who passed me. I don't think that anymore. I ring my bell hello at all of them. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:43:35 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: I ride a lot of city park trails, especially with my daughter, or there's a 26-mile-round paved trail that I hit a lot just for a weekly aerobic ride if no place else comes to mind. We see a lot of the same lycra guys there, and many of them are smug if not condescending about upright bikes and baggy clothes. They don't pass me, though. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:55:36 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: But what I find offensive (that may be too stronga word) are the notions that serious riders dress, ride bikes like, and train like racers. Agree with this completely. For the most part I ignore stuff about bikes and riding I don't cotton to. Life is too short. But this whole notion that one type of riding and rider is serious and the rest of us are what ... goofing around I guess really bugs me. Especially so when one considers the term is most often used by amateurs. I am sure to many bike racing is fun and to almost all it is a healthy way to pass time when not at work or attending to your personal obligations. Amateur racing in the end is a hobby like any other hobby. Certainly the fact one races bikes for fun does not make one more 'serious' about cycling than the person who uses a bike as primary transport, or cycles around the world, or collects old bikes, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yW1KF1GgMtkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Totally missed this Rivendell Poster!
Yep, I'm buying one to put in my classroom, and perhaps one for the bike room at home. It looks great! On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:22:12 AM UTC-8, William wrote: This is going up in one of my spaces, no question. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pr12.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/h6ed-3qVhewJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
Thanks Patrick Moore for speaking my mind. I do not have one cycling friend that agrees on all the nuances that complicates the category that is bicycle riding. But we are still friends. I read Grant's cycling musings and he sounds like one of my guys who has figured things out in his own way. I really can't see why that can be offensive. My one complaint about Grant's writing: do more of it! On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 4:59:09 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I tried to stay away from this thread, but this post makes me speak. I haven't read the book, but I've read most of what Grant has written since 1994, and my take on his opinions and style is that, if anyone is offended by what GP says, he or she deserves to be offended. There's not an offensive word in anything I've seen of his writing; the problems are in the readers. Get a goddam life! I disagree with a lot of what GP says and likes, but in no way is there any possible way for a reasonable person to be offended by it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xncZsnyqrSgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale
The bike is currently set up for a saddle height of 70.6 cm. Yes, I asked because (darn it!) it looks to be my size. A PBH of 88.9 cm should have a saddle height of closer to 80 cm, maybe 78 or 79cm. That's an extra 3 of seatpost, which means you'll need to raise the handlebar a similar amount (if you want to keep the same drop). So it appears to be way too small. Actually, on second thoughts, it's your size. Buy it! Relieve me of the temptation and ultimately my extended stay in the doghouse! On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:56:28 AM UTC-8, Chris wrote: Oh this is great. I have a PBH of 88.9. Is this frame too small for me? On Monday, December 10, 2012 12:24:01 PM UTC-8, Mojo wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-All-Rounder-Excellent-Condition-/221164983311?_trksid=p5197.m1992_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4061894373677924007%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D251197730711%26 Not mine and I am not associated. Someone here? It's lovely with good to excellent components, but the time-built seems wrong. My late 1995 built All-Rounder has less ornate lugs and a flat top tube. Were the lugs seen here and the rising top tube being used in 1996 or 97? Ah, really who cares. What a great looking bike. Needs fenders though. It is priced its worth I think; not a bargain but not gouging. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QUg1-OK2GgsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Totally missed this Rivendell Poster!
I love those traditional posters! Nice that Grant had it done. Back in college, our University Chorus shared an evening with several gospel choirs (very innovative move by our director) so the concert combined European classical and down-home black American. We had posters with broad horizontal bands of color and big black lettering...wonder if they do that style any more. Joe On Dec 12, 8:18 pm, Tony Lockhart alockhart...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I'm buying one to put in my classroom, and perhaps one for the bike room at home. It looks great! On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:22:12 AM UTC-8, William wrote: This is going up in one of my spaces, no question. http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/pr12.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale
dis may help: http://www.rivbike.com/kb_results.asp?ID=41 scroll down for chart... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/xq0S41IdbCgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Totally missed this Rivendell Poster!
You know, I'm furnishing my new place, and realized it's time to replace a few of my older posters... So I picked up the David Lance Goines print and the Hunqa-poster... Now with this new poster I've got enough artwork on the walls to rename the room from the Ansel Adams Conservatory to simply... RivRoom. Cool. BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Gi906vkLoCMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
and William, in the post you replied to, I used the word I twice in 200 words - you used it 4 times in 80 words - think about it. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 6:55:36 PM UTC-6, William wrote: I used to think it mattered who I passed and who passed me. I don't think that anymore. I ring my bell hello at all of them. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 3:43:35 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote: I ride a lot of city park trails, especially with my daughter, or there's a 26-mile-round paved trail that I hit a lot just for a weekly aerobic ride if no place else comes to mind. We see a lot of the same lycra guys there, and many of them are smug if not condescending about upright bikes and baggy clothes. They don't pass me, though. On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:55:36 PM UTC-6, Matthew J wrote: But what I find offensive (that may be too stronga word) are the notions that serious riders dress, ride bikes like, and train like racers. Agree with this completely. For the most part I ignore stuff about bikes and riding I don't cotton to. Life is too short. But this whole notion that one type of riding and rider is serious and the rest of us are what ... goofing around I guess really bugs me. Especially so when one considers the term is most often used by amateurs. I am sure to many bike racing is fun and to almost all it is a healthy way to pass time when not at work or attending to your personal obligations. Amateur racing in the end is a hobby like any other hobby. Certainly the fact one races bikes for fun does not make one more 'serious' about cycling than the person who uses a bike as primary transport, or cycles around the world, or collects old bikes, etc. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/jrYeIXdPcmwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
Grant: If you publish stuff, someone, somewhere, will be offended. Guaranteed. Don't be sorry. The other side of balance beam is that you give voice to a lot of ideas / opinions / thoughts that bubble around in a lot of our heads but never make it into print. I don't agree with everything you've written but always enjoy reading your articles. FWIW, my copy of Just Ride was the on-board read of choice for a van load of bicycle tourists between So Cal the Canadian border last summer. The bike load as everything from an old steel MTB to CF racing bikes, plus my Atlantis a LHT. Even some of the racy people commented hey, this guy has some good ideas. You're doing a tremendous amount of good. Keep writing I'll keep reading. dougP On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 3:47:00 PM UTC-8, gep7...@gmail.com wrote: I never TRY to offend people, but it sometimes happens and I'm always sorry for it. My opinions about bikes are about bikes, and not the people who ride them, but of course---I'm this way myself-I tend to take equipment-comments personally. When I set out to do the Reader--and catalogues and JR--always up front among my concerns is to not attack people, but anything goes on the bikes or parts. But even so, I try to tread lightly while talking straight about it, and if I were really good, I'd be able to pull it off better than I do. I knew (and said this exactly in the into to JR) that many would find the book offensive, or might feel threatened by it, in some way. But what I find offensive (that may be too stronga word) are the notions that serious riders dress, ride bikes like, and train like racers. I know not every non-racer does that, but it is common enough to almost be invevitable--in the absence of a good argument for doing otherwise. Anyway, PB, I'd be happy to send you a copy of JR free. It's only 34,000 words. You might agree with 27,000 of em! Best, Grant On Tuesday, December 11, 2012 12:44:27 PM UTC-8, pb wrote: I do not have a dog in this hunt, I really don't care one way or the other, and I didn't read the book, but I will note the following: - The story of George is interesting (click through the photo to read about him). The guy rides a bike, and I suspect that Grant would enjoy meeting him. - Grant managed to offend me at some point in most issues of the Reader. Over the years, RBW lost a good amount of my discretionary spending as a result of various things I read in the Reader. I was baffled and confused by positions he took, and comments he made, which seemed snarky to me -- earnestly snarky, determinedly snarky, unecessarily snarky, rather than good-humored, witty observations. I was a guy with a dozen bikes in the garage, in a wide variety of flavors, all of them expensive, all of them with lots of miles on them, some of them very racy, some of them lugged and Rivvish, virtually all of them subject to ongoing replacement (in other words, each of those hooks was potentially a business opportunity for RBW), and I had the means to be able to buy the products Grant was offering... and he repeatedly told me that I was clueless about my almost lifelong avocation. I gather George had a reaction to Just Ride which was along the same lines. I recovered from my reactions to the Reader a long time ago. Water over the dam. Shrug. I own and have owned Rivs. Yes, I appreciate Grant's positive aspects, and contributions, while shaking my head at some of his idiosyncracies as well as at what I think are poor business decisions -- hey, none of my business except that someone needs to finally tell him that he tends to build top tubes that are too long (and too numerous, but I digress). I'm not surprised that someone else might respond to aspects of Grant's writing as I did. An analogy to Grant's style of communication that occurs to me is a soccer coach who tells kids that they should play soccer instead of football because football is stupid, and people who play football are fools who have been tricked. Wouldn't it be more productive -- and overall much more positive -- to invite the kids to play soccer because it's a great game and they're going to have a blast? Some of them might even wind up playing both football and soccer! How cool would that be? (No, I'm not a football fan. It's an analogy. Substitute baseball or swimming or cycling or video games in place of football, if you don't like the football analogy.) I'm grateful that, unlike George, when I am reading for pleasure, I have learned to toss something aside if I don't enjoy it. You'll never find a review on Amazon from me that reports, I hated this book from the first page, and steadily hated it more and more until finishing page 742. (Or worse, a one-star review that says something like, I have tried this in the past, I have always hated it, and yes, I still hate it
Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale
Ah damn, just as well... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA benzouy...@gmail.com wrote: The bike is currently set up for a saddle height of 70.6 cm. Yes, I asked because (darn it!) it looks to be my size. A PBH of 88.9 cm should have a saddle height of closer to 80 cm, maybe 78 or 79cm. That's an extra 3 of seatpost, which means you'll need to raise the handlebar a similar amount (if you want to keep the same drop). So it appears to be way too small. Actually, on second thoughts, it's your size. Buy it! Relieve me of the temptation and ultimately my extended stay in the doghouse! On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:56:28 AM UTC-8, Chris wrote: Oh this is great. I have a PBH of 88.9. Is this frame too small for me? On Monday, December 10, 2012 12:24:01 PM UTC-8, Mojo wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-All-Rounder-Excellent-Condition-/221164983311?_trksid=p5197.m1992_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4061894373677924007%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D251197730711%26 Not mine and I am not associated. Someone here? It's lovely with good to excellent components, but the time-built seems wrong. My late 1995 built All-Rounder has less ornate lugs and a flat top tube. Were the lugs seen here and the rising top tube being used in 1996 or 97? Ah, really who cares. What a great looking bike. Needs fenders though. It is priced its worth I think; not a bargain but not gouging. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QUg1-OK2GgsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
Of course I use first person singular a lot. I'm smug! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/XKxfLafMDdUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
I had a lot of concrete ideas about bikes and cycling before I opened a neighborhood bike shop 7 years ago. All my customers have their own ideas about how bikes should be or how best to ride bikes, and all of them are correct! Sometimes, though, they need a little encouragement. For example, it's very common for newbie cyclists to experience clipless pedal peer pressure. Many seem relieved when I te them there's no need to go cli -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/n2gJn1tHJrkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another perspective, by George!
Continuing from above... when I tell them there's no need to go clipless! I don't use clipless pedals. This, of course, does not mean I discourage clipless lovers from loving clipless. I just defuse the peer pressure for people who clearly aren't ready for such an advancement in their bike experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/yXq3chqExC0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale
Of course the saddle height works perfect for me. But it's not gonna happen. I need a triple drivetrain for trails *and *the hills around my house, and the dropbars would be ditched for a Bullmoose I already have. I'd need to score it as a frameset the way he did, which is the only way I could possibly afford it, anyway. Buh bye. Joe Bernard On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 7:44:03 PM UTC-8, Chris wrote: Ah damn, just as well... Sent from my iPhone On Dec 12, 2012, at 6:38 PM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA benzo...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: The bike is currently set up for a saddle height of 70.6 cm. Yes, I asked because (darn it!) it looks to be my size. A PBH of 88.9 cm should have a saddle height of closer to 80 cm, maybe 78 or 79cm. That's an extra 3 of seatpost, which means you'll need to raise the handlebar a similar amount (if you want to keep the same drop). So it appears to be way too small. Actually, on second thoughts, it's your size. Buy it! Relieve me of the temptation and ultimately my extended stay in the doghouse! On Wednesday, December 12, 2012 8:56:28 AM UTC-8, Chris wrote: Oh this is great. I have a PBH of 88.9. Is this frame too small for me? On Monday, December 10, 2012 12:24:01 PM UTC-8, Mojo wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-All-Rounder-Excellent-Condition-/221164983311?_trksid=p5197.m1992_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D4061894373677924007%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D251197730711%26 Not mine and I am not associated. Someone here? It's lovely with good to excellent components, but the time-built seems wrong. My late 1995 built All-Rounder has less ornate lugs and a flat top tube. Were the lugs seen here and the rising top tube being used in 1996 or 97? Ah, really who cares. What a great looking bike. Needs fenders though. It is priced its worth I think; not a bargain but not gouging. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QUg1-OK2GgsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QY6F_JUZ-lYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?
Or do you think the Hilsen has a lock on it for now for the general-use-mobile? The reason I ask is because if I had to buy a new bike soon, it would have to be the Hilsen for my taste/needs (commutin'/rec-rides). Was wondering if sum-n' new might come out since they seem to stop production on frames every few years and come out with a new model replacement. Just ponderin'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Rnk7SSptokQJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any new Riv roadish bike on the horizon?
Seems like anything new would be pretty similar to the Hilsen, but perhaps in a different color and with a different name. The roadish Rivendell category is somewhat tightly constrained. I kinda doubt we'll see a new Riv with press-in BB or a tapered headtube for zero-stack headset anytime soon. On Thursday, December 13, 2012 1:00:58 AM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Or do you think the Hilsen has a lock on it for now for the general-use-mobile? The reason I ask is because if I had to buy a new bike soon, it would have to be the Hilsen for my taste/needs (commutin'/rec-rides). Was wondering if sum-n' new might come out since they seem to stop production on frames every few years and come out with a new model replacement. Just ponderin'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/W-nB5qPbKgAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Flat pedal revolution manifesto
Here's a more direct link to the manifesto. Kinda curious to try the 5-10 shoes he recommends, but I seem to do ok with any shoes I've tried. Anybody try the 5-10 shoes? http://www.bikejames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/FlatPedalRevolutionManifesto.pdf -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QFOe75FuyNYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
