[RBW] Re: Looking for a 62cm Rambouillet

2013-01-19 Thread rw1911
They're 32 Paselas.  I'm a recreational rider, so I'm not forced to ride 
in the rain...  and I will admit to wiping them down with some some citrus 
cleaner when they start to get dingy. (I'm kind of a neat freak)


On Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:21:15 AM UTC-5, Ryan Ray wrote:

 How do you keep your skinwalls so CLEAN?

 Seriously, I might switch from paselas just to get nice black sidewalls.

 - Ryan



 On Friday, January 18, 2013 7:33:07 PM UTC-8, rw1911 wrote:

 Still ISO an owner of a 62cm Ram who wishes it was just a bit smaller.  
 F/F or complete, color unimportant.  FWIW, mine is blue.


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8sSi0TE7eow/UJ2O6SelHHI/Cc0/fLIj4LCYALk/s912/ram1.jpg




 On Tuesday, December 4, 2012 2:49:17 PM UTC-5, rw1911 wrote:

 I love my 60cm, but think it might be a tad small.  If you have (or know 
 of) a 62cm for sale, please drop me a line.



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[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I'd like to see the whole bike.

On Friday, January 18, 2013 11:47:23 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 @JimThill:
  

  a pic of the cranks or the whole bike? 


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[RBW] Re: Hunqaparallel

2013-01-19 Thread Montclair BobbyB
Beauty!!!  Congrats/

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:49:58 AM UTC-5, James Warren wrote:


 This was a fun assembly, and I'm very lucky I happened to look at the Riv 
 site right when this prototype Hunqapillar went for sale. I'm riding it 
 daily, and I love it, especially with nicely indexing stem shifters. I 
 can't wait to get some 700x55's on it, probably Big Bens. This is a fun 
 bike. 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157632554382351/ 


 -Jim W.

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Re: [RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-19 Thread jpp
I like the idea if they made a video for each model.  It would be cool to 
see the differences between the models.

On Friday, January 18, 2013 12:59:12 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:

 I really really liked that video. Entertaining and informative. Some folks 
 will watch it and chuckle, thinking it's like something out of Portlandia 
 but others will probably be drawn in by it.

  
 My favorite parts were Grant talking at the beginning and the footage of 
 Rich bombing down O'Shaughnessy on his Xtracycle loaded with wheels.

 As a Riv enthusiast, I'd love to see videos for each model, like the 
 Hunqapillar video but I doubt that will happen. I've found the how-to 
 videos that they've posted quite helpful.

 --mike


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[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Michael


 @Jim:
  

Here are some. No closeups of drivetrain, though.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8049462382/in/set-72157631680596119/
 
This is the only shot I have handy that has the drivetrain shown on it:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/8226383846/
 
It is an Ultegra front derailer and crankset.
Ultegra 10-speed rear derailer.

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Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Don
I've had the same experience. I now ride with the handlebar about 1 to 2 
centimeters below the saddle height. That business of raising the handlebar 
as high as you can get them doesn't work for me.

On Friday, January 18, 2013 10:14:23 PM UTC-8, rw1911 wrote:

 This is counter-intuitive to the assumption that higher bars equal  a 
 better more comfortable position. I kept raising my bars in search of 
 comfort. I usually ride on the brake hoods and after many miles found the 
 drops more comfortable so I lowered the bars to 1-2cm below the saddle and 
 haven't looked back.  I don't have an explanation other than if your saddle 
 is in the right pace, I think it relates to torso/arm/top tube length and 
 the angle in which your arms meet the bars in your preferred position. 
 (Which also affects the shoulders, neck and back)

 Each person has different proportions and individual preferences. If going 
 up isn't working, try going down.


 On Friday, January 18, 2013 1:14:56 PM UTC-5, z-man wrote:

 try bars -1cm below saddle height 

 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Michael john1...@gmail.com wrote: 
  My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from 
 riding. 
  
  I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). 
 The 
  view is great though. 
  
  I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the 
  bars as high as one likes method. 
  I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my 
 knees 
  love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not 
 on my 
  hands. 
  
  Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go 
  again. 
  I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 
 1.5-2cm 
  above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the saddle 
 all the 
  way back for the above-mentioned reasons. 
  
  It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever 
 ridden, 
  like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to 
 complain 
  no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love 
 this 
  bike. 
  
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[RBW] Roadeo finally ordered!

2013-01-19 Thread RJM
Well, I did it!  
 
I ordered a Roadeo frameset. 53cm Ram Orange with cream accents, threaded 
fork (going to use my Nitto lugged stem). When the custom raffle was going 
on, I bought a gift certificate just so I could get entered into the 
raffle. I didn't win, of course, so I am using the gift certificate on the 
Roadeo frame. This bike is going to be my club riding bike and faster solo 
ride bike and the set up is going to be more aggressive than my Sam 
Hillborne. I have some time to think about wheels/components and general 
setup which I am actually thankful for as I could use the time to get some 
money together. Brifters or barends?hmmm. Can't wait for it though, it 
is going to be cool and a good compliment to my Sam!

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo finally ordered!

2013-01-19 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Be sure to post photos and describe the ride. I rather suspect it will be a
very good complement to the Sam, from my brief experience with a Sam.

I am rethinking my earliest desire to build the Ram up as a gofast; it
obviously fits more into the sports-touring category and so ought to be
built up. Eventually, God willing, I'll have a Kojak wheelset and one with
light 28 mm tires, tubs or clinchers.

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 8:50 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I did it!

 I ordered a Roadeo frameset. 53cm Ram Orange with cream accents, threaded
 fork (going to use my Nitto lugged stem). When the custom raffle was going
 on, I bought a gift certificate just so I could get entered into the
 raffle. I didn't win, of course, so I am using the gift certificate on the
 Roadeo frame. This bike is going to be my club riding bike and faster solo
 ride bike and the set up is going to be more aggressive than my Sam
 Hillborne. I have some time to think about wheels/components and general
 setup which I am actually thankful for as I could use the time to get some
 money together. Brifters or barends?hmmm. Can't wait for it though, it
 is going to be cool and a good compliment to my Sam!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Good Deal on Ibex XL and XXL Knickers

2013-01-19 Thread Robert Barr
Thanks for the first hand report.  I have modified several pair of shorts
with a seam ripper, but these Ibex knickers look much harder to modify. I
will pass.


On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 1:33 AM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 I have not done it on mine but I know of a few people who have using a
 steam ripper.  Not sure how it looks after but it has been done.
 read here..  http://oceanaircycles.com/2013/01/07/unstable-weather/

 ~mike


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[RBW] Re: 2013 Riding Plans anyone?

2013-01-19 Thread Jan Heine
The first big ride for the year is the Fleche - the famous 24-hour non-
stop randonneur team ride around Easter. We have a lovely course
around the Olympic Peninsula, where we reach the Pacific Ocean around
sunrise and then have breakfast at the historic Lake Quinault Lodge.
We finish by approaching Olympia, WA, on beautiful gravel roads. At
the finish, we meet the other randonneurs and share each others'
courses and experiences. A write-up on a past Fleche is here:

http://cyclosmontagnards.org/FlecheChallengeReport2.html

Jan Heine
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Bicycle Quarterly
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[RBW] Re: Hunqaparallel

2013-01-19 Thread William
Especially love the stem-mount-shifters.  I have a set of the stem-mounts, 
waiting for which bike to try them on.  It's pretty likely I will like them.

I also really like the BLAST of flashback from every flash photo including 
Sackville products.  The reflective material on there is BRIGHT and 
generously applied.  There's a T-intersection on my commute, where I have 
no stop sign and the cross traffic does.  Cars have a tendency to blow the 
sign, unless they can see you.  The side reflectors of my Sackville front 
come in handy there.  

On Friday, January 18, 2013 11:49:58 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:


 This was a fun assembly, and I'm very lucky I happened to look at the Riv 
 site right when this prototype Hunqapillar went for sale. I'm riding it 
 daily, and I love it, especially with nicely indexing stem shifters. I 
 can't wait to get some 700x55's on it, probably Big Bens. This is a fun 
 bike. 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157632554382351/ 


 -Jim W.

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo finally ordered!

2013-01-19 Thread Michael


 Congrats!
 Let us know how the ride is.
 I haven't heard anyone review their Roadeo before. Interested to know how 
 it feels diferent than a Sam.


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Re: [RBW] WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-19 Thread Steven Frederick
Thanks, I guess my selective memory skipped right over the Rona Components
angle.  How was he involved?  As an investor, designer, interested
by-stander?

At least I got the intent of the frame right--budget option to Riv's other
options.  Sorry folks if my faulty memory or interpretation muddied the
waters...

Steve

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Jim Mather mather...@gmail.com wrote:

 Here's the Riv Reader page introducing the Heron (RR #11):
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/20986098@N04/8392733385/in/photostream



 On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  The Herons were Rivendell's first stock models.  They were blue collar,
  frames 90-some percent of the original Rivs (road standard, longlow,
  all'rounder) but without custom options and therefore available at a
 lower
  price.
 
  They weren't designed for another company--they were designed by Grant,
  built by Waterford and sold by Rivendell and Rivendell dealers like
 Harris
  cyclery..

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[RBW] Portland Rides in March/April?

2013-01-19 Thread Eric Norris
Do any Portland-area Riv riders know of a good list of 100-mile to 200- or 300k 
rides in the Portland area in March or April? I'd like to bring a bike and do 
an organized ride, but I'm having trouble finding a concise list.

Thanks in advance.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqaparallellar

2013-01-19 Thread James Warren

Yes. I guess it's about time I learned how to use my camera and not always use 
the flash.

Anyway, I love Rivendell's recent commitment to reflectivity. I ride a lot in 
the dark. Any extra helps.

Regarding the stem shifters, they are pretty convenient, probably my favorite 
compromise between convenience and cables out of the way.

- Jim W.


On Jan 19, 2013, at 8:39 AM, William wrote:

 Especially love the stem-mount-shifters.  I have a set of the stem-mounts, 
 waiting for which bike to try them on.  It's pretty likely I will like them.
 
 I also really like the BLAST of flashback from every flash photo including 
 Sackville products.  The reflective material on there is BRIGHT and 
 generously applied.  There's a T-intersection on my commute, where I have no 
 stop sign and the cross traffic does.  Cars have a tendency to blow the sign, 
 unless they can see you.  The side reflectors of my Sackville front come in 
 handy there.  
 
 On Friday, January 18, 2013 11:49:58 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:
 
 This was a fun assembly, and I'm very lucky I happened to look at the Riv 
 site right when this prototype Hunqapillar went for sale. I'm riding it 
 daily, and I love it, especially with nicely indexing stem shifters. I can't 
 wait to get some 700x55's on it, probably Big Bens. This is a fun bike. 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157632554382351/ 
 
 
 -Jim W.
 
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[RBW] New Sizing/Pricing

2013-01-19 Thread William
I've seen a few posts about people being bummed about the new sizing.  How 
they aren't going to be able to fit on the new sized Sam's or Betty's.  I 
was one of those people on the Betty.  I wanted a 58 for myself someday 
and now that they are discontinued, running out, and about to go up in 
price, I finally went in to buy one.  I thought I needed a 58 and that the 
new 55 would be too small.  

What I learned is that the 55 Betty that is coming is IDENTICAL to the 58 
Betty.  The only change is that the seat tube is 3cm shorter.  Draw the 58 
betty frameset on paper and the only two tubes you have to erase are the 
seat tube and the seat stays.  Every other tube on the bike is exactly the 
same.  So, now I have a choice between a 58 and a 55, knowing my position 
on the bike will be the same.  I just need to decide if I want 3cm more 
seatpost showing on the 55, and allow shorter friends to ride it as a guest 
bike.  I'm leaning towards the 58 anyway, just for looks, but I thought 
that if there were any listers handwringing over the new sizing, that there 
is reason to be optimistic that you might still fit on a new sized bike.  

Now if you get forced into 700 when you wanted 650B, now THAT's worth 
handwringing over.  ;-)

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Re: [RBW] New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-19 Thread BSWP
I read Grant's post, and I think there's a red herring here - the damage to 
the wheel came not from continued pedaling, but from continued rotation of 
the wheel. They're simply not the same thing. Either something got into the 
spokes, ahead of the derailer and inside the chain, or something smashed 
the derailer into the spokes from the side. Either way, the derailer was 
yanked back, and snapped off the rear dropout, and some spokes on the drive 
side of the wheel were snapped.

In any case, the damage was not done by continued *pedaling* - it was done 
by continued rotation of the wheel after something jammed up the works. The 
rider could have been simply coasting along. Purely armchair racing here, 
yes, but the best thing any of us could do in such a case is to stop as 
quickly as possible.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, January 18, 2013 8:37:14 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:

 That Hunqapillar story irritates me. Getting something crossed up in a 
 wheel is a hazard of riding a bicycle. If something gets in there and you 
 keep pedaling, either the wheel is going to stop spinning, or something's 
 going to snap. If I did that to my Saluki, I would expect to pay for the 
 repair, not express disappointment in the frame. This is ridiculous.
  
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 Vallejo, CA.



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[RBW] Re: Modifying Thin Gripster Pedals

2013-01-19 Thread Mike On A Bike
I just checked in at Velo Orange and it they have a really nice
looking sealed cartridge platform pedal. Check it out here:
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/pedals/grand-cru-sabot-pedals.html

It looks like it's shorter than the GK's at 10 cm (picture on Riv
shows GK's at 11.5 cm), but also wider at 10cm. I most likely will be
buying these soon and if so I'll be sure to write up a review on
them.

On Jan 15, 11:10 pm, Sean Cleary 1upand1d...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mike, I concur with your Grip King comments, having repacked the same pedal 
 twice in one season-cmon! I've gone 10 years without doing such maintenance 
 on old Shimano pedals. However, being the owner of some VP Gripster pedals, I 
 can say that your plan will likely fall short because of the pesky axle 
 ridge, or hump, in the pedal platform which won't allow for good grip. It's 
 only tolerable WITH the pins since they prevent your foot from hitting the 
 axle hump.

 If you do buy them, I suggest just remove a few of the pins, actually Allen 
 set screws, to see if they really do tear up your shoes that much and I 
 suspect they won't. I don't find the screws all that grippy in actuality. I 
 just really don't care for the pedal, it's too thin, doesn't have good 
 platform size or ergonomics. I feel there are much better options.

 Good luck,
 Sean

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[RBW] FS: Restomod madness. Kinda Rivish, kinda Ebisu-ish. 60cm.

2013-01-19 Thread Jeremy Smith
The details:
Frame - 1960s Atala.  From the parts it came with it was one of the top two 
models in the line-up.  

First, I had braze-ons added for Mafac Racers, dt shifter bosses, and some 
cable routing braze-ons.   Josh Muir of Frances did the work.  
Then, a shot of orange powder coat.
 

Build:
Mafac Racer brakes - braze-on mounted  
Campagnolo Rally RD  
Simplex Super LJ FD 
Simpex retro-friction DT shifters (cut out model, circa 1980?)
TA cranks + italian BB - modern versions, not vintage. 
Campy GS hubs laced to Super Champion Gentleman clinchers
Cinelli stem 
Nitto / Jitensha flat bars
Real CNC mountain bike brake levers from the 1990s 
Selle San Marco Regal 

Extras:
New cork grips.
CLB city brake levers - need to be polished and cleaned 
French rear rack

The pictures are here: http://bit.ly/fauxbisu

The wheels need to be trued, or possibly rebuilt.  Original spokes and all.  My 
next step was going to be relacing the wheelset. 

I'd like a grand picked up for this in Oakland, or I can meet around the bay 
area.  Add whatever it costs to ship and get money to me if you're not local.


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[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread LBleriot
I'll venture a guess that slamming the saddle all of the way back on its 
rails is the culprit of your lower back pain.  This approach may be messing 
with your hip angle.

On Friday, January 18, 2013 2:36:36 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote:

  My lower back has been killing me for the last month or so from riding.
  
 I think it may be that the bars are up too high (~6cm above saddle). The 
 view is great though.
  
 I have been using the Just Ride PBH-11=Seat Height fit method, and the 
 bars as high as one likes method.
 I have shoved the Brooks saddle all the way back Riv-style, which my 
 knees love, and my hands love, as this makes my weight further back and not 
 on my hands.

 Now I just have to work out the low back issue and I will be good to go 
 again.
  I am gonna try the RivReader fist full-'a-seatpost method with bars 
 1.5-2cm above saddle and see if that feels better. I'm gonna keep the 
 saddle all the way back for the above-mentioned reasons.
  
  It is odd, that yes, it is the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden, 
 like riding a cushy sedan, but one part of my body always seems to complain 
 no matter how I set it up. But I'll get there, I hope. I really love this 
 bike. 


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[RBW] The test ride of my newly built almost finished A. Homer Hilsen.

2013-01-19 Thread Iron Rider
For those who may be interested here's a link to a blogpost about by test 
ride of my A.H.H. 
 
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2013/01/test-ride.html

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Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
I think it's important to realize that any change can equal a really 
painful result.  Quick and dramatic changes - such as going from 3-4 cm 
below to 6 above (not saying that was what happened here, just trying to 
make the point) - change the stresses on the body dramatically and 
suddenly.  This can be especially problematic if you ride a fair amount 
already, because, even though uncomfortable, your body is used to a certain 
position.  I know I'm much more sensitive to changes and switching between 
differently set up bikes when my regular mileage is higher.

My experience has been that smaller, regular movements towards a desired 
position is much safer on the body.  

Backs and necks are funny things, and after pretty seriously tweaking mine 
playing high school football, I've always been careful with position 
changes.  I am very lucky to have been blessed with the genetics of good 
flexibility.  But, in my high mileage years, while also mostly working at a 
desk, I was definitely taking a set - rounding shoulders and back, while 
my head easily would look up (yeah, I'm a 1 - 3 cm below the bars kinda 
body/guy).  I was lucky enough to connect with an excellent yoga instructor 
and after 3+ years, have really undone a lot of that collapsing tendency.  
She also has a strong core focus, and I was again slapped upside the head 
with the knowledge that a strong core (especially stomach muscles which 
have NO stress in most cycling) alleviates about 95% of any low back 
issues.  

The body is a lazy device, and will only make itself just as strong as it 
needs to be, and only in the directions in which you ask it to be.

..oktime to ride!

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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[RBW] Re: New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-19 Thread rob markwardt
I've had two similar experiences.  First time a cable/wire sticking
out of the ground from some previous construction snagged on the
derailleur and yank me to a halt bending the hanger and destroying my
derailleur.   Second time not sure what happened but the derailleur
again was yank into the wheel, breaking several spokes with serious
hanger bendage.  No  dropout breakage but I can certainly see how it
could happen.  Both were on gravel but would certainly would fall in
the JRA category.

On Jan 19, 9:37 am, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:
 I read Grant's post, and I think there's a red herring here - the damage to
 the wheel came not from continued pedaling, but from continued rotation of
 the wheel. They're simply not the same thing. Either something got into the
 spokes, ahead of the derailer and inside the chain, or something smashed
 the derailer into the spokes from the side. Either way, the derailer was
 yanked back, and snapped off the rear dropout, and some spokes on the drive
 side of the wheel were snapped.

 In any case, the damage was not done by continued *pedaling* - it was done
 by continued rotation of the wheel after something jammed up the works. The
 rider could have been simply coasting along. Purely armchair racing here,
 yes, but the best thing any of us could do in such a case is to stop as
 quickly as possible.

 - Andrew, Berkeley







 On Friday, January 18, 2013 8:37:14 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:

  That Hunqapillar story irritates me. Getting something crossed up in a
  wheel is a hazard of riding a bicycle. If something gets in there and you
  keep pedaling, either the wheel is going to stop spinning, or something's
  going to snap. If I did that to my Saluki, I would expect to pay for the
  repair, not express disappointment in the frame. This is ridiculous.

  Joe Bernard
  Vallejo, CA.

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[RBW] Re: Modifying Thin Gripster Pedals

2013-01-19 Thread Liesl


 I just checked in at Velo Orange and it they have a really nice 
 looking sealed cartridge platform pedal. Check it out here: 

 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/pedals/grand-cru-sabot-pedals.html
  

 It looks like it's shorter than the GK's at 10 cm (picture on Riv 
 shows GK's at 11.5 cm), but also wider at 10cm. 


The Epicurean cyclist came back from (active) hibernation and has a 
side-by-side comparison/photo of the VO pedal and the Thin Gripster.  The 
VO is bigger in every way.  

http://epicureancyclist.com/spotted-velo-orange-sabot-pedal-vs-thin-gripster/ 


I have a pair of the Riv Thin Gripsters and, as I've posted before, *love* 
them.  Here's my best measurements using a cheap caliper:

Thin Gripster deck size:
94 mm wide at the axle
71 mm wide at the front and rear edges
83 mm fore/aft (just the deck; not front to back because the top and bottom 
decks are off-set)
9mm thick (deck, not axle)

Grip King Deck size:
46 mm wide at the axle
74 mm wide at widest
112 mm fore/aft
18 mm thick (deck, not axle)

Another comparison; MKS Touring cage size:
89 mm wide
58 mm fore/aft

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Re: [RBW] New Sizing/Pricing

2013-01-19 Thread René Sterental
Go for the 650b while you still can!

On Saturday, January 19, 2013, William wrote:

 I've seen a few posts about people being bummed about the new sizing.  How
 they aren't going to be able to fit on the new sized Sam's or Betty's.  I
 was one of those people on the Betty.  I wanted a 58 for myself someday
 and now that they are discontinued, running out, and about to go up in
 price, I finally went in to buy one.  I thought I needed a 58 and that the
 new 55 would be too small.

 What I learned is that the 55 Betty that is coming is IDENTICAL to the 58
 Betty.  The only change is that the seat tube is 3cm shorter.  Draw the 58
 betty frameset on paper and the only two tubes you have to erase are the
 seat tube and the seat stays.  Every other tube on the bike is exactly the
 same.  So, now I have a choice between a 58 and a 55, knowing my position
 on the bike will be the same.  I just need to decide if I want 3cm more
 seatpost showing on the 55, and allow shorter friends to ride it as a guest
 bike.  I'm leaning towards the 58 anyway, just for looks, but I thought
 that if there were any listers handwringing over the new sizing, that there
 is reason to be optimistic that you might still fit on a new sized bike.

 Now if you get forced into 700 when you wanted 650B, now THAT's worth
 handwringing over.  ;-)

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[RBW] Re: New Sizing/Pricing

2013-01-19 Thread Michael


 Any benefit over the 700c on the Foy? Good clearance on the 700c?

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[RBW] Portland Rides in March/April?

2013-01-19 Thread Mike
Check the OR Randonneurs list. While they,re might not be a brevet, folks have 
been on a tear with doing perms. You might also check bikeportland.org. Other 
than randonneuring related stuff I'm out of the loop with group rides.

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[RBW] Re: New Sizing/Pricing

2013-01-19 Thread Garth
700c all the way  lol :)

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[RBW] Re: New Sizing/Pricing

2013-01-19 Thread Mike Schiller
I was hoping the new 55cm Sam would be 650B since the original two smaller 
sizes were 650B, but  I read it will be 700C.  I'm guessing the top tube 
will be about 58cm as the 56 had a 59cm  TT.

Since Grant mentioned a new 650B tire I was hoping he would add another 
bike that fit's them as well. I think a 55cm Sam in 650B would have been a 
better seller, but it's not my call.

~mike

 you wanted 650B, now THAT's worth handwringing over.  ;-)


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[RBW] Optimal tire pressure questions...

2013-01-19 Thread René Sterental
Since I'm a heavy guy, the spreadsheet that has been posted for all to
determine the optimal tire pressure has been very usefull for me,
particularly as all my bikes have different tire widths/sizes. However,
last week I ran into a couple of issues with this chart that I'd like to
see how everyone else has addressed:

1) Does tire size (650b, 700c, etc.) affect the optimal pressure for a give
tire width?
2) If you are a very light person, for wider tires you get some ridiculous
low number, like 7lbs. How do you determine the lowest pressure to use in
these cases?
3) Can I extrapolate these values to tubeless MTB tires as well?

Any extra feedback is welcome!

René

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[RBW] Re: New Sizing/Pricing

2013-01-19 Thread Mike Schiller
I am happy it's a single top tube model. And not a new  650B  tire but a 
new version of the Fatty Rumpkin, 

~mike

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 1:12:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I was hoping the new 55cm Sam would be 650B since the original two smaller 
 sizes were 650B, but  I read it will be 700C.  I'm guessing the top tube 
 will be about 58cm as the 56 had a 59cm  TT.

 Since Grant mentioned a new 650B tire I was hoping he would add another 
 bike that fit's them as well. I think a 55cm Sam in 650B would have been a 
 better seller, but it's not my call.

 ~mike

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Re: [RBW] Optimal tire pressure questions...

2013-01-19 Thread Jim Mather
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 1:23 PM, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
 3) Can I extrapolate these values to tubeless MTB tires as well?

Tubeless tires run significantly lower pressure than tubed. I'm 225
lbs, and on dirt I run 25 psi tubeless when I would be running at
least 40psi with tubes.

jim m
wc ca

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Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
To my eyeball, it seems like that bar you're using has a lot of reach. Maybe a 
shorter reach bar would be better? 

I still think switching to a more usable 44-46t big ring will eliminate lots of 
problems.

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[RBW] Re: Optimal tire pressure questions...

2013-01-19 Thread Jan Heine
The spreadsheet probably is based on Berto's chart, see

http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/science-and-bicycles-1-tires-and-pressure/

 1) Does tire size (650b, 700c, etc.) affect the optimal pressure for a give
 tire width?

No. In any case, the sizes most of us run fall within a relatively
narrow range. 700C is only 10% larger in diameter than 26.

 2) If you are a very light person, for wider tires you get some ridiculous
 low number, like 7lbs. How do you determine the lowest pressure to use in
 these cases?

All these values are starting points. Frank Berto came up with the
chart based on extrapolation, so the further you go toward the ends,
the less reliable the values become.

My bike and I together weigh about 200 pounds, and I run my 42 mm
Grand Bois Hetres at 40-45 psi on most surfaces, but closer to 35 psi
on rough gravel. The extremely supple Extra Leger model requires about
10% higher pressures, since the sidewalls are so flexible. Otherwise,
the tire begins to wash out when cornering on the limit. On the other
hand, you could run a Schwalbe Marathon at much lower pressures, since
the sidewalls are much stiffer.

 3) Can I extrapolate these values to tubeless MTB tires as well?

The chart is based on a 15% tire drop. Mtbs require totally different
pressures - usually much lower. In cyclocross, the rule with tubular
tires (which don't suffer from pinch flats) used to be that you wanted
to bottom out on the rim on the biggest bump that you hit every lap.
If you didn't bottom out, your pressure was higher than optimal for
traction, and if you bottomed out all the time, your pressure was
obviously too low.

Disclosure: Our sister company Compass Bicycles Ltd. sell Grand Bois
tires and Schwalbe tubes.

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
www.bikequarterly.com

Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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[RBW] Re: Optimal tire pressure questions...

2013-01-19 Thread René Sterental
Thanks for the detailed explanation.

René

On Saturday, January 19, 2013, Jan Heine wrote:

 The spreadsheet probably is based on Berto's chart, see


 http://janheine.wordpress.com/2010/10/18/science-and-bicycles-1-tires-and-pressure/

  1) Does tire size (650b, 700c, etc.) affect the optimal pressure for a
 give
  tire width?

 No. In any case, the sizes most of us run fall within a relatively
 narrow range. 700C is only 10% larger in diameter than 26.

  2) If you are a very light person, for wider tires you get some
 ridiculous
  low number, like 7lbs. How do you determine the lowest pressure to use in
  these cases?

 All these values are starting points. Frank Berto came up with the
 chart based on extrapolation, so the further you go toward the ends,
 the less reliable the values become.

 My bike and I together weigh about 200 pounds, and I run my 42 mm
 Grand Bois Hetres at 40-45 psi on most surfaces, but closer to 35 psi
 on rough gravel. The extremely supple Extra Leger model requires about
 10% higher pressures, since the sidewalls are so flexible. Otherwise,
 the tire begins to wash out when cornering on the limit. On the other
 hand, you could run a Schwalbe Marathon at much lower pressures, since
 the sidewalls are much stiffer.

  3) Can I extrapolate these values to tubeless MTB tires as well?

 The chart is based on a 15% tire drop. Mtbs require totally different
 pressures - usually much lower. In cyclocross, the rule with tubular
 tires (which don't suffer from pinch flats) used to be that you wanted
 to bottom out on the rim on the biggest bump that you hit every lap.
 If you didn't bottom out, your pressure was higher than optimal for
 traction, and if you bottomed out all the time, your pressure was
 obviously too low.

 Disclosure: Our sister company Compass Bicycles Ltd. sell Grand Bois
 tires and Schwalbe tubes.

 Jan Heine
 Editor
 Bicycle Quarterly
 www.bikequarterly.com

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[RBW] Portland Rides in March/April?

2013-01-19 Thread velomann
If you like hills (insert villanous cackle here) the Ronde Portlandia will once 
again NOT be officially happening. The date of this officially NOT happening is 
April 20, with strong rumors of another, equally brutal ride NOT heading south 
on April 21. Google Ronde Portlandia.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqaparallellar

2013-01-19 Thread dougP
Jim:

Congrats on getting that together so quickly.  It came out nice.  I have a 
set of stem shifters someone gave me a while back that I need to try out.  
I've yet to find a cable routing with my bar ends that didn't get in the 
way somehow, especially with front bags.  

dougP

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 9:13:56 AM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:


 Yes. I guess it's about time I learned how to use my camera and not always 
 use the flash.

 Anyway, I love Rivendell's recent commitment to reflectivity. I ride a lot 
 in the dark. Any extra helps.

 Regarding the stem shifters, they are pretty convenient, probably my 
 favorite compromise between convenience and cables out of the way.

 - Jim W.


 On Jan 19, 2013, at 8:39 AM, William wrote:

 Especially love the stem-mount-shifters.  I have a set of the stem-mounts, 
 waiting for which bike to try them on.  It's pretty likely I will like them.

 I also really like the BLAST of flashback from every flash photo including 
 Sackville products.  The reflective material on there is BRIGHT and 
 generously applied.  There's a T-intersection on my commute, where I have 
 no stop sign and the cross traffic does.  Cars have a tendency to blow the 
 sign, unless they can see you.  The side reflectors of my Sackville front 
 come in handy there.  

 On Friday, January 18, 2013 11:49:58 PM UTC-8, James Warren wrote:


 This was a fun assembly, and I'm very lucky I happened to look at the Riv 
 site right when this prototype Hunqapillar went for sale. I'm riding it 
 daily, and I love it, especially with nicely indexing stem shifters. I 
 can't wait to get some 700x55's on it, probably Big Bens. This is a fun 
 bike. 

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/46035786@N07/sets/72157632554382351/ 


 -Jim W.


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Re: [RBW] Portland Rides in March/April?

2013-01-19 Thread campyonlyguy
Sounds ... fun. I'll look into it.

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 If you like hills (insert villanous cackle here) the Ronde Portlandia will 
 once again NOT be officially happening. The date of this officially NOT 
 happening is April 20, with strong rumors of another, equally brutal ride NOT 
 heading south on April 21. Google Ronde Portlandia.
 
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[RBW] FYI: Velo Orange Warehouse Sale 01/26/13

2013-01-19 Thread Minh
http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2013/01/warehouse-sale-and-test-bikes-for-sale.html

For those in the area, Velo Orange is having one of their warehouse sales, 
i've been to one before and you can expect an assortment of returns as well 
as items that the company demos (last one i went to there were a few Nitto 
racks that i think they were using for testing).  Pricing is about 50% off 
the normal prices and all the unique stuff goes within the first 10 minutes 
so get there when they open.  I suspect they might have a little more to 
get rid of because they are moving to a larger warehouse next month.  

Despite the rush right at the beginning, there are still some decent items 
left over (i picked up some scratched mud flaps for a buck a piece last 
time), and they are also giving 20% off anything you buy that's in stock 
(see restrictions in the post).

I'm going to be out of town so won't see you there, but happy hunting.


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[RBW] 1st Ride Report

2013-01-19 Thread tommynguyen
Peter suggest I make a post, so here it is.

Technically, it has been a few rides. A little side story of how the bike 
came to be:

I rarely frequent the forums but decided on a fine December day to browse 
and see all the happenings on the web. I stumbled upon Peter's post of a 
Bombadil for sale and quickly emailed him. I was reluctant at first knowing 
that I really didn't need another bike but with the proper push (from Andy 
'Smitty' Schmidt and ManuelAcosta) I took the dive... and was it a good 
one. 

Within a week, the frame, fork and additional goodies arrived (+1 for Peter 
M.). Gracious that Andy allowed a landing pad for the box since my 
neighborhood isn't too ideal for pricey items to be stationed. From then 
on, part list was compiled with the help of Manny and Andy (again) and 
slowly it came together. 

Finally, I have had some time to take it for a spin and boy does my face 
hurt from smiling. It's nothing like the bikes I have ridden before. The 
frame is responsive, accelerates well and comfortable. Not to mention, it's 
easy on the eyes. Here are some photos of the ride, before racks are put 
on. 


http://www.flickr.com/photos/metron04/sets/72157632564755576/

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[RBW] Re: 1st Ride Report

2013-01-19 Thread Manuel Acosta
Time to get it dirty! Looking forward to seeing in person soon!

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Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Jim M.
Diagnosing fit by looking at a picture of a riderless bike seems silly to 
me. If you really want some help, we need at least a picture of you on the 
bike, with both feet on the pedals.

jim m
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Re: [RBW] 1st Ride Report

2013-01-19 Thread Dan McNamara
Nice looking bike. Enjoy it! 



On Jan 19, 2013, at 4:45 PM, tommynguyen tommy...@gmail.com wrote:

 Peter suggest I make a post, so here it is.
 
 Technically, it has been a few rides. A little side story of how the bike 
 came to be:
 
 I rarely frequent the forums but decided on a fine December day to browse and 
 see all the happenings on the web. I stumbled upon Peter's post of a Bombadil 
 for sale and quickly emailed him. I was reluctant at first knowing that I 
 really didn't need another bike but with the proper push (from Andy 'Smitty' 
 Schmidt and ManuelAcosta) I took the dive... and was it a good one. 
 
 Within a week, the frame, fork and additional goodies arrived (+1 for Peter 
 M.). Gracious that Andy allowed a landing pad for the box since my 
 neighborhood isn't too ideal for pricey items to be stationed. From then on, 
 part list was compiled with the help of Manny and Andy (again) and slowly it 
 came together. 
 
 Finally, I have had some time to take it for a spin and boy does my face hurt 
 from smiling. It's nothing like the bikes I have ridden before. The frame is 
 responsive, accelerates well and comfortable. Not to mention, it's easy on 
 the eyes. Here are some photos of the ride, before racks are put on. 
 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/metron04/sets/72157632564755576/
 
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[RBW] Re: Rene Herse book now shipping!

2013-01-19 Thread Scot Brooks
Checked out Kathleen's copy at Free Range today. Lovely work. Had to settle for 
going home with the newest BQ, but I'll have my own copy soon enough. 

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[RBW] Re: Hunqaparallel

2013-01-19 Thread Mike Schiller
that came out real nice Jim. Should be a lota fun with big tires!

~mike


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[RBW] Re: Optimal tire pressure questions...

2013-01-19 Thread Philip Williamson
Yes, the spreadsheet is based on Berto's measurements. I believe there's a 
downloadable spreadsheet in the Docs for this group, and there's a Google Doc 
version here. Bit.ly/biketirepressure.
If you have an Android phone, there's an app for it. Free demo here: 
bit.ly/tiredemo
As for super low pressures for very light people being accurate... I don't 
know. If you try it, let me know what you find. I do know that people run Fat 
tires at single digit pressures. I'd like to make more measurements with fatter 
tires and heavier and lighter loads. Maybe this summer we could have a 
crowd-sourced internet tire drop measuring party... Lots of 40+ mm tires on 
this list, and lots of careful people. 

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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Re: [RBW] Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
A riderless bike is actually full of information. Admittedly, seeing the rider 
on the bike is another useful data point.

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[RBW] Re: WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-19 Thread Christopher Kopp
Standover is just under 30 (76cm) with 26x1.25 tires.

On Thursday, January 17, 2013 5:17:50 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:

 What is the standover height, if you don;t mind me asking?



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[RBW] FS: Atlantis 58 with SS couplers

2013-01-19 Thread steve
Custom black atlantis with top-line components

Some may recognize this as Jim Thill's old bike - he has no responsibility 
for this sale. This bike has all the great components he put on it. 

Velocity Aerohead rims with a Phil Wood cassette rear hub (36h with asym 
rim) and Phil Wood front hub (32h)
Paul Neo-Retro Cantilever brakes
Vintage XT motorcycle brake levers
Ultegra 9sp cassette
960 series XTR rear derailleur (no front derailleur)
9sp Dura Ace shifter
Sugino XD crank with 38t ring and Sugino 24t or 26t ring and Salsa 
chainguard
Technomic stem (tall, with 10-11cm extension)  CrMo Albatross bar
Ritchey cable couplers
Cascadia fenders
SRAM chain
Schwalbe Marathon Plus 700x39 tires with good tread
Minoura kickstand
Brooks black sprung saddle or a Brooks tan aged saddle (or a Selle 
Anatomica Cydesdale waterproof saddle for $75 extra)
Bike is in excellent condition. Located in Washington DC area. Willing to 
ship. 

$2200. Please email me at wardbrent@hotmail(dot)com for pictures or go to 
www.flickr.com/photos/92372679@N03

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[RBW] Re: Modifying Thin Gripster Pedals

2013-01-19 Thread Shoji Takahashi
For side-by-side pics (by olipop) of MKS Grip King | MKS Touring | MKS 
Sneaker | Thin Gripster:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8322939933/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8322939597/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8323125039/



On Saturday, January 19, 2013 2:47:28 PM UTC-5, Liesl wrote:


 I just checked in at Velo Orange and it they have a really nice 
 looking sealed cartridge platform pedal. Check it out here: 

 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/pedals/grand-cru-sabot-pedals.html
  

 It looks like it's shorter than the GK's at 10 cm (picture on Riv 
 shows GK's at 11.5 cm), but also wider at 10cm. 


 The Epicurean cyclist came back from (active) hibernation and has a 
 side-by-side comparison/photo of the VO pedal and the Thin Gripster.  The 
 VO is bigger in every way.  


 http://epicureancyclist.com/spotted-velo-orange-sabot-pedal-vs-thin-gripster/ 

 I have a pair of the Riv Thin Gripsters and, as I've posted before, *love* 
 them.  Here's my best measurements using a cheap caliper:

 Thin Gripster deck size:
 94 mm wide at the axle
 71 mm wide at the front and rear edges
 83 mm fore/aft (just the deck; not front to back because the top and 
 bottom decks are off-set)
 9mm thick (deck, not axle)

 Grip King Deck size:
 46 mm wide at the axle
 74 mm wide at widest
 112 mm fore/aft
 18 mm thick (deck, not axle)

 Another comparison; MKS Touring cage size:
 89 mm wide
 58 mm fore/aft



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[RBW] Re: riv sighting.

2013-01-19 Thread jenny k.
hi JL, 

Sounds like you might have spotted my 59cm 2TT A. Homer Hilsen.  Thanks for 
the compliment-- say hi next time!  :)

And thanks, all of you, for your kind comments about Jay's Rivideo.  You 
all are pretty fantastic, too.  

Take care,
--jenny @ RBW

On Friday, January 18, 2013 7:18:12 PM UTC-8, JL wrote:

 Who owns the dark blue A Homer Hilson with one DT shifter (front) and one 
 bar end shifter?  I saw that bike on the bart this evening.  Looks to be a 
 medium sized frame but with a double top tube.  

 Great bike!  

 JL
 San Francisco


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Re: [RBW] New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-19 Thread qwerty
Rivsters,

Enjoyed the video.  Looks like a great place to work.  However, I
noticed that John Bennett was left out.  Just checked the Riv website,
and sure enough, no John listed in the staff line-up.  Mark is now GM.
 Seems like a recent change the went unnoticed, unless I misses
something.

Mike G.

On 1/19/13, René Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote:

 It really doesn't matter. As a customer, one of the things that earns my
 loyalty is feeling that the shop/vendor/company will go out if their way
 to
 do something for me. Rivendell has done it in the past and I expect will
 continue to do it in the future if necessary. That is why I have 4
 Rivendell bicycles and keep buying from them things I could buy
 elsewhere.


 In turn, I try to avoid being unreasonable and taking advantage of them.
 I've been in the opposite side of the spectrum, where stuff I wanted was
 being sold by a vendor who I felt treated me poorly, and I've learned the
 hard way that it wasn't worth buying from them, especially when there are
 many other equivalent options out there.

 While as a customer, I do not expect that Rivendell will replace my frames
 whenever anything unfortunate happens to them, when I needed them to, for
 sizing issues, they volunteered to do it. For an individual, it might mean
 everything; for a shop, it will likely b the seed of more future business
 and referrals. While there are indeed people who will abuse this, on the
 long run the benefit for all will be much larger. For me, it sealed the
 deal.

 I don't support the LBS that is closest to me; I support the ones that give
 me the best service and go out of their way for me; they make me feel
 special and welcome. When they stop doing that due to management changes,
 policy changes or because the sales person or mechanic that did it goes
 elsewhere, I follow them to their new place of work unless they go out of
 town, even if I have to drive further.

 And going back to the video, while everyone I've ever interacted with at
 Rivendell has always been wonderful, I do agree that Keven is special. Very
 special. I wasn't surprised when Grant stated it in the video.

 René



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[RBW] TT AHH on S24O?

2013-01-19 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Was rolling around on this fine and wonderful bay area day and took nary a 
single photo.  A well, sorry folks!

But, while I was rumbling along the MV Path near the houseboats, I _think_ 
I breezed past a a very stately looking setup on a twin-tubed Hilsen.  
Seemed like the owner was rigged for an overnight at least.  Sorry not to 
have chatted, but I was tagging along behind a tandem and may have been 
starting to go a bit cross-eyed.

On the list? 

- J / cyclofiend.com

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[RBW] Re: 1st Ride Report

2013-01-19 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Nice! Nothing better than fat tires and drop bars.  

May the roads and trails beckon often.

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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Re: [RBW] 1st Ride Report

2013-01-19 Thread René Sterental

 Very nice setup and photos!



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[RBW] Re: 1st Ride Report

2013-01-19 Thread Scot Brooks
That's just about as nice as they come. What a find!

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[RBW] Re: Optimal tire pressure questions...

2013-01-19 Thread Jan Heine
On Saturday, January 19, 2013 6:48:46 PM UTC-8, Philip Williamson wrote:
 

 Maybe this summer we could have a crowd-sourced internet tire drop 
 measuring party... Lots of 40+ mm tires on this list, and lots of careful 
 people. 

  Measuring tire drop isn't easy. Berto built a big device to do it. I 
think it could be simplified, but it's not something you can do with just 
your bike and a ruler...

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
www.bikequarterly.com

Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com

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Re: [RBW] New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-19 Thread Manuel Acosta
I believe John moved to Portland. Don't remember the reason why.

On Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:16:23 PM UTC-8, Mike Gillespie wrote:

 Rivsters, 

 Enjoyed the video.  Looks like a great place to work.  However, I 
 noticed that John Bennett was left out.  Just checked the Riv website, 
 and sure enough, no John listed in the staff line-up.  Mark is now GM. 
  Seems like a recent change the went unnoticed, unless I misses 
 something. 

 Mike G. 

 On 1/19/13, René Sterental orth...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  
  It really doesn't matter. As a customer, one of the things that earns 
 my 
  loyalty is feeling that the shop/vendor/company will go out if their 
 way 
  to 
  do something for me. Rivendell has done it in the past and I expect 
 will 
  continue to do it in the future if necessary. That is why I have 4 
  Rivendell bicycles and keep buying from them things I could buy 
  elsewhere. 
  
  
  In turn, I try to avoid being unreasonable and taking advantage of them. 
  I've been in the opposite side of the spectrum, where stuff I wanted was 
  being sold by a vendor who I felt treated me poorly, and I've learned 
 the 
  hard way that it wasn't worth buying from them, especially when there 
 are 
  many other equivalent options out there. 
  
  While as a customer, I do not expect that Rivendell will replace my 
 frames 
  whenever anything unfortunate happens to them, when I needed them to, 
 for 
  sizing issues, they volunteered to do it. For an individual, it might 
 mean 
  everything; for a shop, it will likely b the seed of more future 
 business 
  and referrals. While there are indeed people who will abuse this, on the 
  long run the benefit for all will be much larger. For me, it sealed the 
  deal. 
  
  I don't support the LBS that is closest to me; I support the ones that 
 give 
  me the best service and go out of their way for me; they make me feel 
  special and welcome. When they stop doing that due to management 
 changes, 
  policy changes or because the sales person or mechanic that did it goes 
  elsewhere, I follow them to their new place of work unless they go out 
 of 
  town, even if I have to drive further. 
  
  And going back to the video, while everyone I've ever interacted with at 
  Rivendell has always been wonderful, I do agree that Keven is special. 
 Very 
  special. I wasn't surprised when Grant stated it in the video. 
  
  René 
  
  
  
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[RBW] Re: 1st Ride Report

2013-01-19 Thread Michael


 Love the color.
 Pretty fork rake on that bike, too.


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[RBW] Re: TT AHH on S24O?

2013-01-19 Thread Michael


 You guys on the left coast have all the fun.
 I see nary a Rivendell in my neck of the woods.
 Mostly Trek, Specialized, Giant, Colnago, Scattante, Cannondale, Fuji 
 around here.


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[RBW] Re: WTT: Blue 52cm Rambouillet, 26 wheel for 58-60cm ???

2013-01-19 Thread Michael


 Thanks Christopher for the SO height.
 My pbh is 82cm, so I'm a little too big for it. Sigh...
 I saw the medium-ish height looking head tube and thought maybe it was, by 
 chance, actually a bigger frame than a 52.
 I need a 54(a little small) or 56(perfect size) in a Rambouillet according 
 to the sizing charts in the Rambouillet flyer.
 Pretty bike. Drool, drool...


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[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread charlie
I'd lower the bar to level with the saddle height (measure from the ground 
up). Your back angle seems higher than 45 degrees when on the hoods. Your 
saddle height and fore/aft position seems okay. You would have to be the 
judge however. I've moved my saddle from where it was before to forward by 
1 cm and I noticed a difference. Try lowering the bars first and see what 
you experience.  Just make sure you change the tilt of the saddle along 
with it. When moving the bars down, tilt down if moving the bars up, 
tilt the saddle up. 

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[RBW] Re: Fit Issues with my Rivendell

2013-01-19 Thread charlie
Measure bar height to the hoods..at the point where you place you hands 
normally.


On Saturday, January 19, 2013 11:25:47 PM UTC-8, charlie wrote:

 I'd lower the bar to level with the saddle height (measure from the ground 
 up). Your back angle seems higher than 45 degrees when on the hoods. Your 
 saddle height and fore/aft position seems okay. You would have to be the 
 judge however. I've moved my saddle from where it was before to forward by 
 1 cm and I noticed a difference. Try lowering the bars first and see what 
 you experience.  Just make sure you change the tilt of the saddle along 
 with it. When moving the bars down, tilt down if moving the bars up, 
 tilt the saddle up. 

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Re: [RBW] New Blug Post with Jay Ritchey video

2013-01-19 Thread grant
John got married and he and his wife (high school sweethearts reconnected!) 
moved to Oregon in early Nov to be near family. Losing John was gigantic, 
but I'm in contact with him daily and it's not all pleasure---he may work a 
few hours a week for us. Mark is the new GM, and we're all happy about 
that. It wasn't a case of -- having to promote from within. Mark knows the 
job, conferred with John about it...and has been doing great.
Anyway, we ALL miss John so much, and he'd have been great  in the video. 
His office would have stolen the show.
Thank you all for liking it, and to whatever extent Rivendell Bicycle *works
*, now you know why. Originally Jay and I talked about a ten-to-twelve 
minute videos, and that was the plan. And that was the budget, too. A few 
months later, after all the shooting (I think everything was one-take), Jay 
sent me a 29-minute vid (only the ultra-beginning, with me ridng down the 
trail, and then the typeover was added). Jay is a remarkable guy. He dives 
into things and seems to not know about learning curves the way the rest of 
us do. Jay was a great employee and friend. You can't know him without 
wanting to be more like him and feeling lucky. Super guy and he did a great 
job.


On Saturday, January 19, 2013 5:16:23 PM UTC-8, Mike Gillespie wrote:

 Rivsters, 

 Enjoyed the video.  Looks like a great place to work.  However, I 
 noticed that John Bennett was left out.  Just checked the Riv website, 
 and sure enough, no John listed in the staff line-up.  Mark is now GM. 
  Seems like a recent change the went unnoticed, unless I misses 
 something. 

 Mike G. 

 On 1/19/13, René Sterental orth...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: 
  
  It really doesn't matter. As a customer, one of the things that earns 
 my 
  loyalty is feeling that the shop/vendor/company will go out if their 
 way 
  to 
  do something for me. Rivendell has done it in the past and I expect 
 will 
  continue to do it in the future if necessary. That is why I have 4 
  Rivendell bicycles and keep buying from them things I could buy 
  elsewhere. 
  
  
  In turn, I try to avoid being unreasonable and taking advantage of them. 
  I've been in the opposite side of the spectrum, where stuff I wanted was 
  being sold by a vendor who I felt treated me poorly, and I've learned 
 the 
  hard way that it wasn't worth buying from them, especially when there 
 are 
  many other equivalent options out there. 
  
  While as a customer, I do not expect that Rivendell will replace my 
 frames 
  whenever anything unfortunate happens to them, when I needed them to, 
 for 
  sizing issues, they volunteered to do it. For an individual, it might 
 mean 
  everything; for a shop, it will likely b the seed of more future 
 business 
  and referrals. While there are indeed people who will abuse this, on the 
  long run the benefit for all will be much larger. For me, it sealed the 
  deal. 
  
  I don't support the LBS that is closest to me; I support the ones that 
 give 
  me the best service and go out of their way for me; they make me feel 
  special and welcome. When they stop doing that due to management 
 changes, 
  policy changes or because the sales person or mechanic that did it goes 
  elsewhere, I follow them to their new place of work unless they go out 
 of 
  town, even if I have to drive further. 
  
  And going back to the video, while everyone I've ever interacted with at 
  Rivendell has always been wonderful, I do agree that Keven is special. 
 Very 
  special. I wasn't surprised when Grant stated it in the video. 
  
  René 
  
  
  
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