[RBW] Friday exploratory ride report.
Left my home late in the day and was in the saddle again. Rode 12 miles and climbed approximately 1400' to the start of Mendenhall Ridge Rd. Rode 10 miles to Mendenhall Saddle and climbed approximately 1600'. I had to turn around with guests coming into town and a BBQ dinner to prepare. 33 miles and 3000' elevation. This is the lower part of a ride Mike S. I are planning to ride in May. Acton metro station up to Mount Gleason and down Mendenhall to Little T. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633229665435/ Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Friday exploratory ride report.
looks like some nice riding. Thanks for the pics!-Mike On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:18 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Left my home late in the day and was in the saddle again. Rode 12 miles and climbed approximately 1400' to the start of Mendenhall Ridge Rd. Rode 10 miles to Mendenhall Saddle and climbed approximately 1600'. I had to turn around with guests coming into town and a BBQ dinner to prepare. 33 miles and 3000' elevation. This is the lower part of a ride Mike S. I are planning to ride in May. Acton metro station up to Mount Gleason and down Mendenhall to Little T. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633229665435/ Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
On Friday, April 12, 2013 11:53:28 PM UTC-4, Jimmy Hutch wrote: A reliable bike will get ridden way more than an old artfully crafted lugged beauty that needs constant TLC. I don't get why people think older bikes need constant TLC. If anything, a good bike from the 70's, 80's or 90's is going to be *more* reliable for the price, than a new bike at that same price. And if a person rides a bike, purchased brand-new or not- actually rides it- he or she will eventually need to replace things on it.Tires, chain/cogs, brakes, etc. They haven't invented wear-proof parts yet (though steel chainrings will get you farther than buttery soft Aluminum :) I'm not trying to be a wise ass here-the beauty of vintage bikes is that they tend to be simpler in design, so unless you buy something that only takes French threading or something else oddball, anybody experienced with pre-techno lego blocks can probably figure them out.Rivendell has managed to similarly keep unnecessary complication out of their bikes, and that's one of the many draws to them.But really, that's the beauty of bicycles in general-most of them are simple and cheap to fix, compared to say, a car. I understand the desire not to buy something that *immediately* needs TLC. But on the other hand, there are so many pre-owned bikes out there that have barely been ridden, and furthermore there are bikes shops that sell older bikes that they have refurbished/made sure everything is in order. Bikes Not Bombs or Cambridge Antique Market around here, for example. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Favorite pedals?
One more thing about Bruce Gordon's Half Clips: Bruce modestly describes them as city bike hardware. I find them well suited to multi-day touring. They keep your feet in place yet allow modest shifts during the long haul which I anyway find helps prevent my feet getting sore. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Inspired Motobecane Makeover
Well done. If you can find a set somewhere, Berthoud composites will look great on that bike. While it may put too much weight on the handle bars for comfortable steering, a stem mount bottle cage may be a solution. Amazing to think something this old already is now set to give another 30 years of happy service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
Looks the same as some Velo Orange and Compass Bike components. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:39:55 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote: Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour components... Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com javascript: *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology* Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday. Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/. Cheers, Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups randon group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to randon+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/randon?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
Definitely cool news.Their philosophy bodes well for the kinds of components they will make, i.e. we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health... ”The large flange hubs look nice, and it's cool that they have a photo of the Hunqapillar on the Homebase page :) On Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:39:55 AM UTC-4, stonehog wrote: Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour components... Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com javascript: *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology* Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday. Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/. Cheers, Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups randon group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to randon+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/randon?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Friday exploratory ride report.
That looks to have been a wonderful ride and the AHH the ideal bike for it. And I like the epic beard: glad to see them coming back, tho' men ought to wait until they are at least 40 before growing one. Patrick clean shaven, pony-tailed Moore On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 12:18 AM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Left my home late in the day and was in the saddle again. Rode 12 miles and climbed approximately 1400' to the start of Mendenhall Ridge Rd. Rode 10 miles to Mendenhall Saddle and climbed approximately 1600'. I had to turn around with guests coming into town and a BBQ dinner to prepare. 33 miles and 3000' elevation. This is the lower part of a ride Mike S. I are planning to ride in May. Acton metro station up to Mount Gleason and down Mendenhall to Little T. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633229665435/ Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
“the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling.” Amen to that. I don't sneer at racing bikes -- some of the bikes I'd love to own are old road and track bikes from before the '80s, and I praise the powers for clipless pedals and Flite saddles -- but the current technology is just a huge insulation between the machine and the fun of riding, at least for my own taste. (I am having fun with 7 speed indexed dt shifting on the Ram -- so exotic!) But drivetrains so complex that they require computerized shifting, 14 lb bikes that break if they fall over and hit something: I don't sneer at carbon fiber or multispeed drivetrains in themselves, but only at the extremes they've been pushed to all for -- this is what I believe, but I'm open to refutation -- marketing purposes. Evan a mainstream backlash was inevitable and has been growing for the better part of a decade. I certainly don't agree with everything in Just Ride but I'm generally on the same side of the fence. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
I like http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aaP3030001.jpg I was really happy to get this used TA Pro5 already with my half-steps and escape (47-42-26) on ebay for $130. But if you look at what Bolder is asking for NOS, this should be a no-brainer market for Suntour. I'm in. On Friday, April 12, 2013 11:39:55 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour components... Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com javascript: *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology* Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday. Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/. Cheers, Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups randon group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to randon+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/randon?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv model decoder? New Riv owner
Yes, it's a Road Standard; I confirmed with the prev owner. 753/531, no canti bosses, no kickstand mount. It's well equipped with Phil Wood hubs on Sun CR18 rims, 105 brakes and Campy 21spd gearset. I have a Bontrager gel seat on it (that I like). I'm tempted to go Brooks; I have a Chinese-made Brooks-knockoff on my '77 Shwinn 3spd city bike. Nice and comfy after a bunch of neatsfoot oil. I picked up some brown bar tape, silver bottle cages, a mirror, and a kickstand at my LBS today. Photo shoot and riding this weekend, hopefully. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: I think with 90% certainty that your new purchase is a 1997 Road Standard. I think LongLows, if they made them that year could have had canti bosses as an option , and I believe lugs were less ornate...similar lugs to the A/R. But it's Waterford-built and I can see the Reynold 531 decal on the fork and there's the corresponding Reynolds 753 decal on the bottom of the seat tube On Thursday, April 11, 2013 6:46:34 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: I just bought a '97 Rivendell from a gent on craigslist. I forgot to ask him what model it is! I'll probably bug him today to be sure, but is there a way to tell the model from the serial? My BB is stamped Everest on one side, and H970XX on the other side. Handcrafted in Waterford on the chain stay. Other scooby clues: It's red with cream head tube Has a Rivendell logo boss, not Atlantis or Rambouillet Has sidepull brakes, not canti Anyone know? I've been very interested in Rivendells since I got back into biking a couple years ago, but this is the first one I've touched. Now if it will only stop raining... Tim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Favorite pedals?
I'm not past clipless, but like the choice to ride without. So, I like the Shimano Campus pedals (A530) which are platform on one side and SPD on the other. Sometimes I'll reach for the wrong side, but it's easy to flip them without looking. Best/worst of both worlds. On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:26:06 AM UTC-5, Tom Goodmann wrote: I notice that bikes new and used often come without saddles and pedals, and I have a pedal choice to make. I've moved beyond clipless (carbon no mas!), though not necessarily beyond clips/straps or Power Grips; riding naked feels funny after so many years of being at least in clips straps, but of course worth trying. Otherwise I don't know enough to make discriminating choices; the MKS Sylvans on my XO-1, for instance, feel fine to me. Some of your current favorites? --Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Sackville Saddlesack Medium Green, Silver Sidepulls
Hi! Long time no rap! I've got a couple things sitting around that need a good home. Both are in great shape and fully functional. The Sackville is probably four years old and has been used, but never abused. I've loved this bag, but I've reconfigured things a bit lately and really want a Little Loafer for the front of my Hilsen. 120.00 OBO. The Silvers are 9/10, save for some brake pad wear. Currently loaded are salmon brake pads, which I dropped in the moment I got them. These brakes probably have 1000 miles on them. I changed out to Paul Racers...gotta cover at least part of my cost there. :(60.00 OBO You can check this stuff out here: http://alturl.com/oxux3 We can split shipping to the Continental US, whatever it comes to. We can work that out. Paypal is preferred. Please contact with questions! Patrick Louisville, Kentucky -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] WTT: My B17 for your Flyer
Besides your weight, you might also want to factor in the tire width and pressure you plan to use. At 190 lbs, I notce the springs a lot more on a 30mm tire at 85psi than on a 42mm tire at 45psi. Mike G On 4/12/13, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, they add a lot more weight than comfort in my 150 pound experience... Steve On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:11 PM, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Michael, Just something to chew on for you. I made the same swap you're considering. Those springs are really stiff. If you're a lightweight, I don't think you'll notice much difference except for some squeaking and an extra pound or so of ballast. I just didn't feel like it even took the edge off for me. Mine was stolen seatpost and all, and I swapped temporarily for a plastic saddle then a B17. If you're a bigger guy, on the other hand, then go for it! Best, joe broach portland, or On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody, I have a black B17 Standard for trade: Black, silver rivets, black rails. Bought new last fall, if I remember correctly. A few minor cosmetic marks from use. Nothing that's a big deal. I will send as many detailed pics as you like. Carefully proofhided upper and lower. Garage kept on the bike. Pretty much a saddle in its infancy. I like to ride with the handlebars high and think a sprung saddle will take the edge off the road bumps. I like the B17 shape, so I figure the Flyer will work out nicely. Not sure how this messaging from the group works so I will ask you to email me at : john11.2...@gmail.com Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Friday exploratory ride report.
Mendenhall road looks pretty good from your pictures Hugh. Glad to see some of those old Big Cone Spruces survived the fire. Those are some of the last ones in left in So Cal. The rocks along there are interesting too, part of the Mendenhall Gneiss, a Precambrian formation. The whole ride over Mt Gleason and across the San Gabriel's should be quite a ride. ~mike On Friday, April 12, 2013 11:18:15 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Left my home late in the day and was in the saddle again. Rode 12 miles and climbed approximately 1400' to the start of Mendenhall Ridge Rd. Rode 10 miles to Mendenhall Saddle and climbed approximately 1600'. I had to turn around with guests coming into town and a BBQ dinner to prepare. 33 miles and 3000' elevation. This is the lower part of a ride Mike S. I are planning to ride in May. Acton metro station up to Mount Gleason and down Mendenhall to Little T. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633229665435/ Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Inspired Motobecane Makeover
I dunno. I have an early '70s Super Mirage Mixte. It's my daily rider. There's not a lot of clearance on the mixte for fenders, so I suspect the mainstream model is similar. If you want to run 28's, there's no problem. But beyond that it gets dicey. I'm using Planet Bike fenders. They're easier to fit than anything else. The bike handles really well and if you can adjust your fenders to something between 28's and 32's you have a nice ride. I'm using a rear rack and a Wald folding pannier basket. Works well. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:47:28 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: Well done. If you can find a set somewhere, Berthoud composites will look great on that bike. While it may put too much weight on the handle bars for comfortable steering, a stem mount bottle cage may be a solution. Amazing to think something this old already is now set to give another 30 years of happy service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
It may be blasphemous to say, but bikes have improved over the decades. Just something simple: almost all new non-race bikes have rack mounts and bottle bosses. Try to find that feature on most 1970s bikes. And fattish tire clearance is easier to find on current bikes than on bikes from earlier generations. Also, I have to believe that most cyclists prefer indexed shifting (RBW people excepted). And don't get me started on brakes! And smart gearing! Every time I've tried to resurrect an old bike, even one in good shape, I've had to modernize some of the components to suit my preferences. That could run into many hundreds of dollars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:37:03 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Welcome development especially so if quality approaches that of its parent. If they bring back the Winner Pro freewheel I would take special note. Wonderifthese are made inJapan or sub-contracted out. Most of the classic Japanese names no longer have any factories. The old tooling is long-gone. None of the skilled workers remain. For example, Dia-Compe is little more than a warehouse in Taiwan. The new SunXCD parts are sub-contracted out, mostly to Taiwan, it appears. It's great that some of the old names are involved, but it remains to be seen what they can achieve. (Remember that Mr. Kawai is in his 90s.) There are small shops in Japan that never did close down, like Nitto and Honjo. They still make their own products the old way. Regarding freewheels, Compass Bicycles has looked into bringing back true high-quality freewheels, but it's very difficult. First, there isn't anybody with the know-how any longer of how to make these, and second, freewheels have huge economies of scale. There are many different small parts, which means huge tooling costs. The actual production costs once you have the tooling are very small. So if you sell 100,000 freewheels a year, you can offer them at a decent price. But if you sell 1000, the price goes up tremendously. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Friday exploratory ride report.
Good looking ride, Hugh! How old is that burn area? I ride through the Haymen Fire (2002) area and it looks similarly revegetated (though a lot of standing burned ponderosa pine). It will be interesting to ride through the Waldo fire area much closer to our home when they open it up (possibly the end of May, 11 months after the fire). With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, April 13, 2013 12:18:15 AM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Left my home late in the day and was in the saddle again. Rode 12 miles and climbed approximately 1400' to the start of Mendenhall Ridge Rd. Rode 10 miles to Mendenhall Saddle and climbed approximately 1600'. I had to turn around with guests coming into town and a BBQ dinner to prepare. 33 miles and 3000' elevation. This is the lower part of a ride Mike S. I are planning to ride in May. Acton metro station up to Mount Gleason and down Mendenhall to Little T. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633229665435/ Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
This is true in many respects. Low end (sub $500) mountain bikes have indexed shifting that, once adjusted, works well and for a long time; brakes that stop better than any long-reach single pivot on a Schwinn, and sturdy but light aluminum frames. I expect that they won't be in as good condition as a Collegiate after 40 years, but they certainly are better in many respects. But a refurbished Collegiate from a bike shop is still a very viable and in some respects -- IMO -- a sturdier option -- not to mention a used mountain bike from a bike shop. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 9:15 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: It may be blasphemous to say, but bikes have improved over the decades. Just something simple: almost all new non-race bikes have rack mounts and bottle bosses. Try to find that feature on most 1970s bikes. And fattish tire clearance is easier to find on current bikes than on bikes from earlier generations. Also, I have to believe that most cyclists prefer indexed shifting (RBW people excepted). And don't get me started on brakes! And smart gearing! Every time I've tried to resurrect an old bike, even one in good shape, I've had to modernize some of the components to suit my preferences. That could run into many hundreds of dollars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
I love the look of those hubs. Nice hunqapillar in the photos on that page. Really nice. On Friday, April 12, 2013 11:39:55 PM UTC-5, stonehog wrote: Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour components... Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com javascript: *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology* Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday. Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/. Cheers, Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups randon group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to randon+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/randon?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Spring arrives in Delaware!
Ugh...you guys are lucky!...not too bad today...3 Celsius high and sunny but 5 cm of snow tomorrow...Yikes... Waiting for Spring in Winnipeg On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:43:26 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: 75 degrees at 6 this morning – my kind of weather! Headed out on my Homer with a couple of my friends on carbon, and a fellow I had not met before who was riding a pretty Moots that he rode cross country last year (he didn’t know what his bike was made of!). Beautiful loop on country roads from Wilmington out into Pennsylvania mushroom country around Kennett Square. I was able to hang with the fast boys for most of the 25 mile loop, and when I got dropped it certainly wasn’t Homer’s fault -- I need a little time in the saddle after a long winter. No pics, working too hard to keep up. But then I put Homer back in the garage and hauled out the proto-App for my normal 5 mile commute along the Brandywine Creek – which, as the picture says, never gets old. http://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8636761157/in/photostream Just about a perfect morning, all in all. Looking forward to riding the Delaware Water Gap with Bobby Birmingham and some East Coasters this weekend – among my two sons and me, we’ll be taking my Atlantis, Rohloff Bombadil, and the proto-Appaloosa. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
Understandable. I still think there is a market for quality 5 - 7 speed friction shifting stuff. I know I would buy a couple of freewheels since I have two wheelsets with Phil freewheel hubs. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:17:47 AM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:37:03 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Welcome development especially so if quality approaches that of its parent. If they bring back the Winner Pro freewheel I would take special note. Wonderifthese are made inJapan or sub-contracted out. Most of the classic Japanese names no longer have any factories. The old tooling is long-gone. None of the skilled workers remain. For example, Dia-Compe is little more than a warehouse in Taiwan. The new SunXCD parts are sub-contracted out, mostly to Taiwan, it appears. It's great that some of the old names are involved, but it remains to be seen what they can achieve. (Remember that Mr. Kawai is in his 90s.) There are small shops in Japan that never did close down, like Nitto and Honjo. They still make their own products the old way. Regarding freewheels, Compass Bicycles has looked into bringing back true high-quality freewheels, but it's very difficult. First, there isn't anybody with the know-how any longer of how to make these, and second, freewheels have huge economies of scale. There are many different small parts, which means huge tooling costs. The actual production costs once you have the tooling are very small. So if you sell 100,000 freewheels a year, you can offer them at a decent price. But if you sell 1000, the price goes up tremendously. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
Very good to have another player in the game. I like more choices. I'm not surprised that these are made in Taiwan, that seems like the center of the bike component industry today. Many of the Grand Bois products are made there including hubs. I think it's a smart move to stay with standard cassette hub splines too. I was/am a long time Suntour devotee and still have a good collection of parts. I'll certainly consider their products. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
There is a tendency to look back with rose colored glasses in the world of bikes, guitars and amps, whatever. The majority of 1970s bikes were really crappy, not even as good as most of the bikes currently sold at Target. I spent many hours in my bike shop wrench days fixing the BMA/6 bikes to try to make them operable. Even the lower end imports from Motobecane, Gitane, Peugeot, etc., were pretty much junk. And the top end bikes weren't much better made than the current mid-level bikes from Rivendell. While the Bridgestones of yore are highly revered, the current offerings from Riv and others blow them out of the water. My wife's Heron is vastly better made than her 1993 XO-1 was. The brazing on the XO-1 was crude, the lugs were crude, the paint was crude by comparison. All of the AHHs and Atlantises and Rambouillets etc. that I have seen are far, far better made bikes than the old Bridgestones. As for components, modern mid-level stuff is far better designed and made than the old mid-level stuff. At the top end the modern stuff works better than the old stuff... although I much prefer the looks of Nuovo Record and I use friction shifting on most of my bikes :-) We all have our rose colored glasses. Tim On Apr 13, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: It may be blasphemous to say, but bikes have improved over the decades. Just something simple: almost all new non-race bikes have rack mounts and bottle bosses. Try to find that feature on most 1970s bikes. And fattish tire clearance is easier to find on current bikes than on bikes from earlier generations. Also, I have to believe that most cyclists prefer indexed shifting (RBW people excepted). And don't get me started on brakes! And smart gearing! Every time I've tried to resurrect an old bike, even one in good shape, I've had to modernize some of the components to suit my preferences. That could run into many hundreds of dollars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
one day we'll look back and Taiwan-made components will be the good old days On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:44:30 AM UTC-5, Mike Schiller wrote: Very good to have another player in the game. I like more choices. I'm not surprised that these are made in Taiwan, that seems like the center of the bike component industry today. Many of the Grand Bois products are made there including hubs. I think it's a smart move to stay with standard cassette hub splines too. I was/am a long time Suntour devotee and still have a good collection of parts. I'll certainly consider their products. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Yesterday's Ride
Napa and Sonoma county backroads and hills yesterday. Great day to take an unscheduled day off from work! http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157633232957488/show/ --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Inspired Motobecane Makeover
There is really a lot of room under those brakes. On my 76 Raleigh with the same brakes, I had a pair of 42mm shorties to keep the brakes clean, and could clear (and cover) 1-3/8 cross tires. Even 36mm Honjos should clear 1-1/4 tires, but may not have the coverage you would like. You could fit 42mm Honjos and easily clear and cover 1-1/4 tires. Honjos also attach perfectly to this style frame - they are copies of the French fenders that were made for this bike. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:07:03 AM UTC-5, Will wrote: I dunno. I have an early '70s Super Mirage Mixte. It's my daily rider. There's not a lot of clearance on the mixte for fenders, so I suspect the mainstream model is similar. If you want to run 28's, there's no problem. But beyond that it gets dicey. I'm using Planet Bike fenders. They're easier to fit than anything else. The bike handles really well and if you can adjust your fenders to something between 28's and 32's you have a nice ride. I'm using a rear rack and a Wald folding pannier basket. Works well. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:47:28 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: Well done. If you can find a set somewhere, Berthoud composites will look great on that bike. While it may put too much weight on the handle bars for comfortable steering, a stem mount bottle cage may be a solution. Amazing to think something this old already is now set to give another 30 years of happy service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Yesterday's Ride
Nice photos! — Sent from Mailbox for iPhone On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Napa and Sonoma county backroads and hills yesterday. Great day to take an unscheduled day off from work! http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157633232957488/show/ --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
I'm not sure who is looking through rose-colored glasses. Unless you want to buy a new Rivendell for $2000 and up (which is *well *worth it, but perhaps beyond budget*)*, you absolutely will not find a better bike for less than $500 than a 1980's Trek including any model from the 400 to the 720, or any number of specimen from Specialized, Fuji, Univega, late 80's Centurion, Bridgestones (as mentioned), many of which had bottle bosses and fender/rack mounts, good components (certainly better than you will find on a sub $500 bike today), attractive, long-lasting steel frames, and geometries that compare to the most comfortable (non-rivendell) bikes made today.If you're scared of vintage, you can find $1000+ bikes that were made in the 90's or 2000's at a steep discount, often less than $500, virtually unridden. The late 90's/early 2000's trek 520 or Fuji Tourings are good examples. Here's a nice Trek 420 for $420: http://madison.craigslist.org/bik/3728345005.html This is a Fuji Cadenza MTB for $175: http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/3740889274.html Or a sweet larger sized MTB for $100: http://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/bik/3679764778.html A Trek 620, $350: http://worcester.craigslist.org/bik/3701528954.html 59cm Bridgestone CB-0 for $500.Barely ever used: http://pullman.craigslist.org/bid/3671050042.html Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
Taiwan, like many places, has a wide variety of manufacturers. Some produce wonderful quality, others focus more on price. You need to make parts where the knowledge and machinery exists to make those parts. For example, I cannot think of a single forged square-taper crank that has been made in the U.S., ever. So we knew that unless we wanted to build an entire new industry, we couldn't have our new René Herse cranks made here. Our engineer spent months visiting every factory in Taiwan to get an impression of what they were capable of doing, before choosing our current supplier of the raw forgings. They also make parts for Ducati motorcycles and other high-end brands. Of course, they are more expensive than others, but to us, the quality is worth it. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:57:35 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: I'm not surprised that these are made in Taiwan, that seems like the center of the bike component industry today. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Nigel Smythe Li'l Loafer
Dave, What are the chances you're still interested in making this trade? I have a Sackville Medium, and would love to work out a trade for a Lil Loafer. Let me know. Patrick Louisville, Kentucky On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 5:57:22 PM UTC-4, Dave wrote: Hey now, I have a pristine condition lil loafer in tweed that I'd love to trade for a sackville saddlebag in medium. Will add cash and saddlebag need not be in pristine condition. Be in touch. Thanks, Dave -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
On Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:30:58 AM UTC-7, RJM wrote: Understandable. I still think there is a market for quality 5 - 7 speed friction shifting stuff. I know I would buy a couple of freewheels since I have two wheelsets with Phil freewheel hubs. Agreed. Would love to see a quality dependeble freewheels in 5 or 6 speeds. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Bike Fitting System
I wonder what people did back around 1900 for fitting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Friday exploratory ride report.
Hugh, looks like another great ride. Thanks for taking the time to stop and take the pictures, post them and share them with us. I would have had a hard time turning around. I get on roads like those and just want to keep going. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Bike Fitting System
What do all those daily cyclists do in third world countries for bike fit? I am sure they aren't paying $250-450US for their fits. And they probably have alot of us in the dust mileage-wise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Bike Fitting System
On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: What do all those daily cyclists do in third world countries for bike fit? I am sure they aren't paying $250-450US for their fits. And they probably have alot of us in the dust mileage-wise. And, from my experience, they do that very often riding very ill fitting bikes! -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
If it's spring, it must be time for the annual Suntour is coming back as SunXCD announcement. I wish them well, but it seems like they've been talking about this for a long time. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:39:55 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour components... Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com javascript: *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology* Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday. Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/. Cheers, Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups randon group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to randon+un...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to ran...@googlegroups.com javascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/randon?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Inspired Motobecane Makeover
Ron, Will and Matt, thanks for all the input. Here is a photo of the space I have between brakes and the top of my 1 1/4 or roughly 32mm tire. The clearance appears to be about 15mm. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MBpqTwe8qHQ/UWm8cWpE7hI/AMI/-ovJr2_x2X4/s1600/Motobecane%2B%25281%2Bof%2B1%2529.jpg Matt, yeah I am looking forward to riding this bike for years. I am more vintage than the bike, and I can see riding this even as I age. The set up gives me an upright, relaxed position that is easy on neck, wrists and back. Interestingly, I am always tweaking the fit of my other bikes trying to dial in the perfect position. With this bike, I set the seat height, dropped the stem in as far as it would go, and slightly tilted the bars down. No additional tweaking was needed. I guess I got lucky! Thanks again, Erl On Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:02:52 PM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: There is really a lot of room under those brakes. On my 76 Raleigh with the same brakes, I had a pair of 42mm shorties to keep the brakes clean, and could clear (and cover) 1-3/8 cross tires. Even 36mm Honjos should clear 1-1/4 tires, but may not have the coverage you would like. You could fit 42mm Honjos and easily clear and cover 1-1/4 tires. Honjos also attach perfectly to this style frame - they are copies of the French fenders that were made for this bike. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:07:03 AM UTC-5, Will wrote: I dunno. I have an early '70s Super Mirage Mixte. It's my daily rider. There's not a lot of clearance on the mixte for fenders, so I suspect the mainstream model is similar. If you want to run 28's, there's no problem. But beyond that it gets dicey. I'm using Planet Bike fenders. They're easier to fit than anything else. The bike handles really well and if you can adjust your fenders to something between 28's and 32's you have a nice ride. I'm using a rear rack and a Wald folding pannier basket. Works well. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:47:28 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: Well done. If you can find a set somewhere, Berthoud composites will look great on that bike. While it may put too much weight on the handle bars for comfortable steering, a stem mount bottle cage may be a solution. Amazing to think something this old already is now set to give another 30 years of happy service. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
There is no one bike for everybody. Today I saw a Trek 7.1 FX on the light rail train in Minneapolis. Just guessing it's a $450ish new bike. From an unbiased viewpoint, it has lots of attractive features. Good tire clearance (fendered 700x40 easy), smart gearing, good brakes, high handlebars. Easy to rack and fender. Sure, it had lower end Shimano Alivio components, but I'm not sure that 20-year-old XT parts worked any better or were more durable than present day Alivio. Obviously it lacks the cachet and street cred of a vintage steed, but not everybody who wants a bike to ride shares that nostalgia. For most cyclists shopping in this price range and wanting a good bike with minimal hassle, I'd not hesitate to recommend this model. Just walk into a Trek shop and buy it. No hunting Craigslist, no uncertainty about history or worn/broken parts, and a warranty! Of course, the case could be made that a suitable older bike is worth the extra effort and risk of chasing down Craigslist leads and fixing up the bike as needed. Many of us here enjoy that sort of thing. Many of our significant others, little sisters, buddies at work, etc, probably don't have that hobby, and don't understand why buying a bike has to be a fussy, complicated process. Those of use who've been drinking the kool-aid for years sometimes forget that not everybody shares our tastes or our willingness to put up with inconvenience. For better or worse, the mass market bikes are excellent for mass market cyclists. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
My brother didn't have much budget for a bike, but wanted for camping/riding. He got a Trek 7.1 FX, and he and I had a great time touring for two nights out in Marin. But there was one big issue: with its cheaper wheels, he has a lot of spoke-breaking problems on this bike. It's more frequent than should be considered tolerable for a reliable bike. To keep using this bike in the ways he likes (commuting, overnighters), he is going to need a better rear wheel. If this is typical of the model, I'd say that adds about $200 to its price. Solid wheels are non-negotiable. On Apr 13, 2013, at 1:41 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: There is no one bike for everybody. Today I saw a Trek 7.1 FX on the light rail train in Minneapolis. Just guessing it's a $450ish new bike. From an unbiased viewpoint, it has lots of attractive features. Good tire clearance (fendered 700x40 easy), smart gearing, good brakes, high handlebars. Easy to rack and fender. Sure, it had lower end Shimano Alivio components, but I'm not sure that 20-year-old XT parts worked any better or were more durable than present day Alivio. Obviously it lacks the cachet and street cred of a vintage steed, but not everybody who wants a bike to ride shares that nostalgia. For most cyclists shopping in this price range and wanting a good bike with minimal hassle, I'd not hesitate to recommend this model. Just walk into a Trek shop and buy it. No hunting Craigslist, no uncertainty about history or worn/broken parts, and a warranty! Of course, the case could be made that a suitable older bike is worth the extra effort and risk of chasing down Craigslist leads and fixing up the bike as needed. Many of us here enjoy that sort of thing. Many of our significant others, little sisters, buddies at work, etc, probably don't have that hobby, and don't understand why buying a bike has to be a fussy, complicated process. Those of use who've been drinking the kool-aid for years sometimes forget that not everybody shares our tastes or our willingness to put up with inconvenience. For better or worse, the mass market bikes are excellent for mass market cyclists. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Inspired Motobecane Makeover
Hi Erl, dug in my computer and found this - 42mm shorties with 32mm tires https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wW9BqrSw7V8/UWnE_xD1E2I/AmU/63bJ_bpOtp0/s1600/shorties.jpg and here are my 36mm Honjos with 28mm tires - from the side, there's air from end to end, and very good coverage https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8fOmH2URkLw/UWGHDWiGviI/AlA/_b8-LIhyit0/s1600/aP4070003.JPG On Friday, April 12, 2013 8:47:42 AM UTC-5, WETH wrote: Yesterday was gorgeous day; today it is raining and thundering. After wrapping the Albatross bars on the Motobecane Super Mirage, I went for an early morning ride. The weather and the ride were perfect. However this makeover and ride would not have happened without the inspiration and knowledge I have received and continue to get from this group. Thank you. The Motobecane Super Mirage circa 1976 belonged to my father-in-law. When it didn't sell at a yard sale, he gave it to me. I didn't like the way it rode with the original drop bars and saddle. It sat in my shed for a few years. After reading many of the posts on this group and seeing the photos, I was inspired to fix the bike up Rivendell style and get it back on the road. I overhauled the wheels, bottom bracket and pedal bearings, replaced all the cables and brake pads, installed new 27 x 1 1/4 tires, Brooks B68 saddle, and Rivendell cockpit (Nitto Albatross bars, Nitto Periscopa stem, Newbaum maroon colored bar tape (matches the head badge), Shimano MTB silver brake levers). I left the pletscher rack, Weinmann brakes, Suntour stem mounted shifters, Suntour V-GT rear derailer and kickstand. I also left on the county bike registration sticker that expired in 1978. The Newbaum bar tape feels great; I rode yesterday without gloves. Though, I usually ride with gloves to protect my hands in a fall, the bike lends itself to gloveless riding! I adore riding this bike as currently configured. I thank everyone for the inspiration and knowledge needed for me to do this. Though I do not imagine riding this bike in the rain, I will look into whether I can squeeze in fenders. I also want to fit a bottle cage or two for carrying water on longer rides. Also still on the list is finishing the bar tape with twine. Here are a few photos from yesterday. More photos here if interested: http://erlhouston.smugmug.com/Portfolio/Cyling/Motobecane-Super-Mirage/28440802_jtmxgvhttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SNO6w48PB-U/UWbhCSCHN0I/ALs/wM1b6hs8xuQ/s1600/Motobecane%2B%25281%2Bof%2B4%2529.jpghttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-P7MRBcqG55s/UWbhDJVDnlI/AL4/6JjTD8NMmvM/s1600/Motobecane%2B%25284%2Bof%2B4%2529.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tBGThhK0u_M/UWbhCg0oAmI/ALw/J9q1ILjyVuo/s1600/Motobecane%2B%25283%2Bof%2B4%2529.jpghttps://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-GjN8SRXu7J4/UWbhCVfMkXI/ALk/h1lh2jjixlM/s1600/Motobecane%2B%25282%2Bof%2B4%2529.jpg Thanks for all the inspiration! Safe cycling. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
The hubs and some other bits are being brought to our shores through Merry Sales, they are real, and I have held them. The finish is not super fancy, bit not bad. I am looking forward to trying one out. Rob Ventura, Ca On Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:21:25 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: If it's spring, it must be time for the annual Suntour is coming back as SunXCD announcement. I wish them well, but it seems like they've been talking about this for a long time. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:39:55 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour components... Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology* Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday. Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/. Cheers, Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups randon group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to randon+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to ran...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/randon?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
A pretty good idea of the finish on the hubs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/therubbishbin/8514301374/ Rob On Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:55:28 PM UTC-7, rperks wrote: The hubs and some other bits are being brought to our shores through Merry Sales, they are real, and I have held them. The finish is not super fancy, bit not bad. I am looking forward to trying one out. Rob Ventura, Ca On Saturday, April 13, 2013 1:21:25 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote: If it's spring, it must be time for the annual Suntour is coming back as SunXCD announcement. I wish them well, but it seems like they've been talking about this for a long time. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:39:55 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote: Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with Suntour components... Brian Hanson Seattle, Wa Begin forwarded message: *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology* Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component business. As he puts it “the market is too race-centric; carbon fiber, electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the enjoyment of cycling. In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of cycling.” For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday. Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/. Cheers, Jenny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups randon group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to randon+un...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to ran...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/randon?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
I agree that the wheels on the typical hybrid are pretty cheesy. Of course, the older used bikes aren't necessarily going to have great stock wheels either. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
James, if you have a local wheel builder, I'd suggest having him or her use the existing hub and rim with new DT or Wheelsmith spokes and appropriate spoke tension. Should be under $100. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Riv Inspired Motobecane Makeover
btw, the Honjos have more clearance than the shorties because of the way they mount- a daruma to the bottom of the fork It's just the 36mm fenders might not cover enough on the 32mm tires. http://support.velo-orange.com/pdf/Fender.pdf Tree Fort has the VO 45mm hammered fenders for $55, (these are made and mount like Honjos) and you could fit 35mm tires in there. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 3:53:39 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: Hi Erl, dug in my computer and found this - 42mm shorties with 32mm tires https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-wW9BqrSw7V8/UWnE_xD1E2I/AmU/63bJ_bpOtp0/s1600/shorties.jpg and here are my 36mm Honjos with 28mm tires - from the side, there's air from end to end, and very good coverage https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8fOmH2URkLw/UWGHDWiGviI/AlA/_b8-LIhyit0/s1600/aP4070003.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Bike Fitting System
I was confused here , as SunTour HAS been around , I've seen their stuff online since the 2000's. from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SunTour In late 1989, Mori Industries Inc., a Japanese steel fabrication company, bought Sakae Ringyo Ltd., which made handlebars, cranksets, pedals, and seatposts. In mid-1990, Mori bought Maeda SunTour. By 1993, SunTour's share of the market had dropped to five per cent of the U.S. market. At the end of 1994, Mori decided to shut down their bicycle component business. In March 1995 Daisuke Kobayashi and Hideo Hashizume, the former owners of SR Sakae Ringyo, arranged a management buyout. The new management took over in July, 1995, purchasing the SunTour name and the SR factory in Taiwan. Mori Industries left the bicycle component business, selling off SunTour's Japanese facilities piecemeal. SR SunTour USA closed its U.S. offices in early 1995. The SunTour name lived on as SR Suntour, but the SunTour component designs did not survive. The tooling that produced the once-prized Suntour derailleurs, shifters, and associated bicycle components was sold for scrap. So this New Suntour is just as the article linked to about SunXCD, and it appears to be the Good STUFF I'm interested in the Hubs for sure !!! The cranks if done with precision the removable adapters will be great ... if not ...not !!! Wobble wobble . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Spring arrives in Delaware!
Certainly did not feel like Spring in Minnesota today. Here is a link to a photo from my ride https://www.dropbox.com/s/w3q8feqav6tmvb3/2013-04-13%2016.18.52.jpg. I put new fatter tires so I just took my Troll to the nearby State Fair Grounds to try them out on the unplowed areas. Lots of fun. Dan Abelson St. Paul, MN On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Ryan ryter...@mts.net wrote: Ugh...you guys are lucky!...not too bad today...3 Celsius high and sunny but 5 cm of snow tomorrow...Yikes... Waiting for Spring in Winnipeg On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 10:43:26 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: 75 degrees at 6 this morning – my kind of weather! Headed out on my Homer with a couple of my friends on carbon, and a fellow I had not met before who was riding a pretty Moots that he rode cross country last year (he didn’t know what his bike was made of!). Beautiful loop on country roads from Wilmington out into Pennsylvania mushroom country around Kennett Square. I was able to hang with the fast boys for most of the 25 mile loop, and when I got dropped it certainly wasn’t Homer’s fault -- I need a little time in the saddle after a long winter. No pics, working too hard to keep up. But then I put Homer back in the garage and hauled out the proto-App for my normal 5 mile commute along the Brandywine Creek – which, as the picture says, never gets old. http://www.flickr.com/photos/** 37542512@N04/8636761157/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/8636761157/in/photostream Just about a perfect morning, all in all. Looking forward to riding the Delaware Water Gap with Bobby Birmingham and some East Coasters this weekend – among my two sons and me, we’ll be taking my Atlantis, Rohloff Bombadil, and the proto-Appaloosa. --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ** ==**==**== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Yesterday's Ride
Great pictures. Looks like a wonderful place to ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Campy Only!: Roads Were Not Built For Cars book Kindle iPad versions by Carlton Reid — Kickstarter
Thought this might be of interest to some on this list: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/04/roads-were-not-built-for-cars-book.html For the truly retro, the book will be offered in printed, as well as digital, form. --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Watergap adventure tour
Nice photo. Looks like everyone is having fun! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Bike Fitting System
Since you asked: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=353135998090454set=a.127038134033576.21586.11821707336type=3theater Nick W. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 11:36:37 AM UTC-7, Michael wrote: I wonder what people did back around 1900 for fitting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13
People showed up and the ride happened. We rode about 30 miles on mixed terrain and under mixed skies. Good times. Pics herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157633235349921/ --Smitty On Monday, April 8, 2013 12:58:45 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: There was another discussion on this topic but the date in the heading of that one was wrong so I'm starting a fresh discussion. Manny is coming to town (Portland, OR) this week and wants to go for a ride on Saturday 4/13. I'm not sure if there's a plan already brewing. I do know that he has to be back to his hotel by 1pm. I'm up for whatever. I'm willing to put something together if need be. List member Norm and I were talking about possibly heading out for an overnighter after the ride. That will be somewhat weather dependent. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Cantilver bosses on older Rivs, LongLow broken canti bolt
First the Bay Bridge, now my LongLow. I was working on my front brakes, got the right side cantilever arm off (older Ritchey Logic brakes), though with some effort. I realize now there must have been thread-locker on the bolt. The left side was equally tough, and after about a turn and a half, the bolt head sheared right off - leaving the bulk of the bolt in the canti boss. I'll check with RBW on Monday, but wonder if anyone on the list knows whether older Rivs (my LongLow was made in 1998) used screw-in cantilever bosses? Or were they all brazed? I don't see any wrench flats on the base of the boss, so I don't expect I can use a ProblemSolvers stud: http://problemsolversbike.com/products/cantilever_studs More likely, I'll have to drill the old bolt, and use an easy-out to get it out. - Andrew not a Sunday rider, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology
Kind of afraid this would be the case, Jan. I have a private horde of 7 Suntour Winner Pros. Fortunately Winner Pro were so well made, and now, thanks to a tip from Patrick, I found someone who is much more adept than I rebuilding freewheels, mine should outlive me. On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:17:47 AM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:37:03 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: Welcome development especially so if quality approaches that of its parent. If they bring back the Winner Pro freewheel I would take special note. Wonderifthese are made inJapan or sub-contracted out. Most of the classic Japanese names no longer have any factories. The old tooling is long-gone. None of the skilled workers remain. For example, Dia-Compe is little more than a warehouse in Taiwan. The new SunXCD parts are sub-contracted out, mostly to Taiwan, it appears. It's great that some of the old names are involved, but it remains to be seen what they can achieve. (Remember that Mr. Kawai is in his 90s.) There are small shops in Japan that never did close down, like Nitto and Honjo. They still make their own products the old way. Regarding freewheels, Compass Bicycles has looked into bringing back true high-quality freewheels, but it's very difficult. First, there isn't anybody with the know-how any longer of how to make these, and second, freewheels have huge economies of scale. There are many different small parts, which means huge tooling costs. The actual production costs once you have the tooling are very small. So if you sell 100,000 freewheels a year, you can offer them at a decent price. But if you sell 1000, the price goes up tremendously. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Short dirt ride on the Cherry Canyon Motorway.
Quick ride with John for a little dirt riding. Felt good to be riding free! The weather was cool with a awesome marine breeze. http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/sets/72157633240197960/ Hugh Sunland, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
I was unable to find the perfect '70s era Masi for anywhere near the price Tom Kellogg of Spectrum charge me to make a 30th anniversary bike for me with Columbus SL tubing. It is kind of the best of both eras. The wonderful Geo and looks of the 70s, but much more tire clearance (currently using the new Grand Bois 700x30 Extra Legers, could easily fit 35s), the brazing and lug work is definitely better (may the bike gods strike me down for dissing Fidelio!) and Tom's wizardry with the paint is second to none. I am very happy with the DT Simplex Retrofriction shifters. So sometimes I may not know exactly which gear I am in. As long as pedaling is comfortable, what else do I need? On Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:15:34 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: It may be blasphemous to say, but bikes have improved over the decades. Just something simple: almost all new non-race bikes have rack mounts and bottle bosses. Try to find that feature on most 1970s bikes. And fattish tire clearance is easier to find on current bikes than on bikes from earlier generations. Also, I have to believe that most cyclists prefer indexed shifting (RBW people excepted). And don't get me started on brakes! And smart gearing! Every time I've tried to resurrect an old bike, even one in good shape, I've had to modernize some of the components to suit my preferences. That could run into many hundreds of dollars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Boiled Wool
I just received my Randi Jo Fabs Burgundy winter cap. I'd been looking for a good wool cycling cap with earflaps all winter, and I finally found it! Unfortunately, the size medium (apparently there is no size small offered) is a tad too large. Do any of you have experience boiling wool (washing and/or drying wool) to shrink to fit? I don't want to wreck the cap, but it ought to be more snug. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Watergap adventure tour
My wife and I are definitely doing this next year. That shot is awesome! Go NJ Rivendells! On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:53:57 PM UTC-4, Norman wrote: Day 1 group photo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Favorite pedals?
Another all in for MKS sneaker pedals. I like to move my feet around a lot as well, so have abandoned clips and straps, SPD and their ilk, etc. I still get decent grip in rain wearing Chuck Taylors. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Wrong Kind of Tire Tread
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Re: [RBW] Boiled Wool
I do have experience felting wool (which is what you are thinking about). Your cap might felt nicely if you try felting it: then again, it might not. If you do felt it, put it in the washer in hot water, let it agitate for a bit, and *keep checking it every few minutes*. Your cap doesn't look like a great candidate for felting. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:09 AM, john johnco...@comcast.net wrote: I just received my Randi Jo Fabs Burgundy winter cap. I'd been looking for a good wool cycling cap with earflaps all winter, and I finally found it! Unfortunately, the size medium (apparently there is no size small offered) is a tad too large. Do any of you have experience boiling wool (washing and/or drying wool) to shrink to fit? I don't want to wreck the cap, but it ought to be more snug. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Wrong Kind of Tire Tread
What? Tires wear out? I figured would just keep swapping and experimenting and nothing will ever wear out. Glad you found it before going out on the ride. And how come none of my mudflaps are that clean? Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:49 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.netwrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/8644929659/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Bags, Misc Parts (brake levers, dynamo lights)
* FS: Bags, Misc Parts Prices include shipping and paypal fees (as long as you live in the US). Please email me directly with any questions, if you’re reading via a smart-phone, you may need to switch to the desktop version (link at the bottom of your browser), to reply directly. Parts BM DLumotec Oval Plus Dyno light, $12 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2213.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2214.JPG BM DLumotec Oval Plus Dyno light + Spanninga Bottle Dynamo (w/ mount), $30 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2215.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2216.JPG On the lights you can see an example of the light pattern at Peter White’s site (about 1/4 of the way down). http://peterwhitecycles.com/headlights.aspi used these with a hub dynamo and the bottle dynamo for sale. The light pattern is very good, and i found it adequate for city riding, i ended up replacing them with something much more expensive (partly for the additional brightness in unlit areas, but mostly for looks). I think they are adequate for city riding/commuting and a great value. Some would say they are ugly, but i would call them not flashy :). Same deal with the bottle dynamo, it worked fine but i replaced it with a Son, mainly for the aesthetics, this bottle dynamo powered my supernova just as well. Dura-Ace non-aero levers. These are great levers, feel really solid. Unfortunately i could not find replacement dura-ace hoods so i used dia-compe ones, which work, but not 100% correct aesthetically. These would work really well on moustache bars, the hoods underneath are cut because these are used. There are also quite a few scratches along the edges of the levers. These are not lookers. $10 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2218.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2219.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2220.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2221.JPG Dia-Compe non-aero levers. These are similiar to the 204 with the quick-release in the lever blade, but the blades themselves are textured. The original gum hoods finally let go, so i’ve replaced them with new dia-compe hoods. These have not been used/mounted since i’ve replaced the hoods. The black bit sticking out of the top are adjusters, i’ve taken one off in one of the pictures. $20 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2224.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2225.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2216.JPG Fork Mounted Cable Stop: To move the cable-stop from the headset down to the fork (helps with chatter), i didn’t have enough clearance with all of my accessories to use it. $5 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2217.JPG Bar End Pods to convert DT shifters to bar end shifters, some scratches/wear around the edges. includes what’s shown in the pictures. $25 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_.JPG https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2223.JPG Bags I recently cleaned out some closets and i’m embarrassed at the number of excessive bags that i’ve accumulated (both bike and other types), so need to clear some space. If you want to look at all the pictures you can start here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/sets/72157632610369600/ Berthoud GB704 Bag and Rack: $225 This is the smaller of the two Berthoud Saddlebags the GB704, it’s about; 7L and measures 220mm W x 170mm H X 250mm D. Berthoud numbers their bags funny so the GB704 is actually the smaller bag (whereas the GB604 is the bigger one). I originally bought both sizes thinking i’d swap between the two bags and two bikes but i’ve used the larger one only and the second bike i’ve dedicated to a different bag. I’ve used this smaller one a handful of times (sunny, no rain). It’s in the grey berthoud material with leather piping, it’s a very handsome bag i get compliments on mine all the time (even more so then my NS tweed bags :) ) The rack has never been mounted as both bags came with a mount and i only used the one. The rack is quite beefy and makes carrying heavier items a little more manageable as it provides a platform from below to support the load. The rack comes with a shim to fit a 27.2 seat-post, if you have a different size you’ll need to come up with your own shim. This combo normally runs about $400. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2181.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2182.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2183.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2184.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2185.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2186.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2187.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1467189/bike/IMG_2188.JPG
Re: [RBW] Re: OT: your opinion of the Bridgestone RB-T?
Thank you! On Apr 13, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: James, if you have a local wheel builder, I'd suggest having him or her use the existing hub and rim with new DT or Wheelsmith spokes and appropriate spoke tension. Should be under $100. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - 700x55 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell phrase game
Rivendell Bike Works: Is that a Technomic stem in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New Bike Fitting System
Wow! Cool pic. Where'd you get it? That looks like a really short reach there. Saddle 3 behind bb and bars 1 below saddle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Short dirt ride on the Cherry Canyon Motorway.
Nice shots! I am jealous. Thanks for sharing. I hope to be up and commuting again next week. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13
Looks like a fun ride. Thanks for posting. I always love looking at the pictures of events. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wrong Kind of Tire Tread
Looks like tire thread. You got the last miles out of that one. dougP On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:49:30 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/8644929659/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wrong Kind of Tire Tread
Well done. I'm always proud of wearing out a tire. On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:19 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Looks like tire thread. You got the last miles out of that one. dougP On Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:49:30 PM UTC-7, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclofiend/8644929659/in/**photostreamhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/8644929659/in/photostream -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Yesterday's Ride
Great day to take an unscheduled day off from work! You get a gold star for makes good use of time. Beautiful photos. dougP On Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:07:35 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: Napa and Sonoma county backroads and hills yesterday. Great day to take an unscheduled day off from work! http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157633232957488/show/ --Eric campyo...@me.com javascript: www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS 64 cm Atlantis - custom blue
I managed to sell it today to a nice guy named Rod that drove down from Fort Collins tonight. He had a couple Mercians that he had built up to Atlantis geometry and seemed really pleased with it. It's a sad day for me but it's getting a good home and I took delivery of the Ogre this morning. I think it's going to be really great. Thanks, everyone for your support. On Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:52:06 PM UTC-6, drewjensen wrote: Hey everyone - I moved to the Boulder area a couple of years ago and there are so many great trails here compared to where I lived in the Bay Area for so long. I've taken my Atlantis out on them, but my wife has tired of my suggesting new ways to retrofit it to make better use of the trails and so talked me into a Surly Ogre works a little better on the trails around here. It's not an Atlantis, but I think it's the right tool for this job. Alas, though, I need to do the fiscally responsible move and sell off my Atlantis. I got it in 2006 when they were still Toyo made and had it painted a dark blue that I liked. I had to save money for it for a couple of years and took great pains to get the best parts I could afford/justify for it. Really, the only corner I can think that I cut was that I didn't get Phil Wood hubs but I stand behind all of my other choices in putting it together. Anyway, it's a sad day, but a necessary one. If you know anyone looking for a 64 please pass along the information. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask. Thanks for your time. Drew Here's a link to my local CL listing: http://boulder.craigslist.org/bik/3723729971.html (note to moderator: I attempted to use the tag, but got an error indicating that the tag was not for use in this forum) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Friday exploratory ride report.
Looks great, Hugh. Thanks for posting this. I've been wanting to get into that area for a while, but I haven't had the chance yet. You've got some great riding opportunities right out your backdoor! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Yesterday's Ride
Watch at 0:10 in ... http://youtu.be/cf4veA65G-k Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:33 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: Great day to take an unscheduled day off from work! You get a gold star for makes good use of time. Beautiful photos. dougP On Saturday, April 13, 2013 9:07:35 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: Napa and Sonoma county backroads and hills yesterday. Great day to take an unscheduled day off from work! http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157633232957488/show/ --Eric campyo...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Friday exploratory ride report.
Hi Bryan, Yeah thanks it is amazing just out my doorstep, I was just commenting about that to a friend, up here in the foothills we have a little complex though about the Westside come Summertime :-) Hugh On Saturday, April 13, 2013 8:59:28 PM UTC-7, Bryan wrote: Looks great, Hugh. Thanks for posting this. I've been wanting to get into that area for a while, but I haven't had the chance yet. You've got some great riding opportunities right out your backdoor! Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13
Ditto what Mike said! Just loved the pics what a great time. Thanks for sharing. Hugh Sun bleached Smitham Sunland, CA On Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:54:47 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Looks like a fun ride. Thanks for posting. I always love looking at the pictures of events. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS 64 cm Atlantis - custom blue
Good deal. He's probably pretty stoked to find a great bike in that size. Cheers, David On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:43 PM, drewjensen andrew.howard.jen...@gmail.comwrote: I managed to sell it today to a nice guy named Rod that drove down from Fort Collins tonight. He had a couple Mercians that he had built up to Atlantis geometry and seemed really pleased with it. It's a sad day for me but it's getting a good home and I took delivery of the Ogre this morning. I think it's going to be really great. Thanks, everyone for your support. On Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:52:06 PM UTC-6, drewjensen wrote: Hey everyone - I moved to the Boulder area a couple of years ago and there are so many great trails here compared to where I lived in the Bay Area for so long. I've taken my Atlantis out on them, but my wife has tired of my suggesting new ways to retrofit it to make better use of the trails and so talked me into a Surly Ogre works a little better on the trails around here. It's not an Atlantis, but I think it's the right tool for this job. Alas, though, I need to do the fiscally responsible move and sell off my Atlantis. I got it in 2006 when they were still Toyo made and had it painted a dark blue that I liked. I had to save money for it for a couple of years and took great pains to get the best parts I could afford/justify for it. Really, the only corner I can think that I cut was that I didn't get Phil Wood hubs but I stand behind all of my other choices in putting it together. Anyway, it's a sad day, but a necessary one. If you know anyone looking for a 64 please pass along the information. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask. Thanks for your time. Drew Here's a link to my local CL listing: http://boulder.craigslist.** org/bik/3723729971.htmlhttp://boulder.craigslist.org/bik/3723729971.html (note to moderator: I attempted to use the tag, but got an error indicating that the tag was not for use in this forum) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
