[RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they have real winters, things are looking good. Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards entropy, I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it. This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300 membersand last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors open. One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about either. And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion. I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have arrived, everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the doors means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to make that work. The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the case. The quality of discussions remain high. The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it periodically gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when you are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to state them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and well-thought-through, you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well. The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of this list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to more general lists. Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking about the items. And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live get-togethers among the members. As the photos from recent regional rides, there's a lot to cover just within the stated topic of this group. All good stuff. No... GREAT stuff. Take a new friend riding this month, and make sure they finish with a big smile. Tone is a critical issue. My view is simple: life is too short. If you can't stay positive or at least polite, it's time to put down the keyboard and take a break. We all get enough guff in our everyday existence that we don't need to add to it here. As I've said before, disagreement is expected. There's no way we will all come to the same conclusion about anything, and I think it would be a more boring world if we did. But, here, under this roof, we agree to disagree with respect for one another. To finish, I'll repeat what I said in the last full-length SOTLR (wow, was it really 2010?) - it is important as we grow to honor the relatively narrow focus of this group, even though it's tempting to have more general topics discussed here. Clearly, it's a bit of an imperfect border, but one which we've largely maintained. Letting discussions end as they creep toward more general topics, not having to have the last comment (or needing to win the argument) and, above all, maintaining the respect for one another within the group is what makes this list special. As always, thanks again for contributing to or simply enjoying the discussions. - Jim Jim Edgar / Cyclofiend.com / List Admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Betty Foy New in Box
I just checked my Rivendell account information on the web site - the 55 cm Betty Foy was shipped to me on 2/19/12. As I mentioned, I have 2 55cm mixtes - the other was shipped in November. The only reason I didn't build the Betty last spring was because I had knee surgery last May and just didn't want to build a bike I couldn't ride much. Then the Yves presented itself. Kevin told me the same thing as mentioned above about the size - the 55 cm is the same bike as the 58cm except the seat post is 3 cm lower. This suited me since I ride with a very high handle bar height at my almost 65 years of age. This is also the reason I never built up the original Rivendell 52 cm mixte or the 51 cm Atlantis I recently sold - I knew the handlebar height wouldn't be high enough. Pictures of the Yves and original Rivendell mixte (that is also for sale) are here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7338969@N06/7583232160/in/photostream To answer several other questions: I'm in northern central Ct 2 miles south of the Mass border. No pictures of the Betty which is packed in a box - pictures are the same as on the website. If someone is ready to buy, I'll certainly take a picture. The Betty is a frame only not a built bike. No component has ever been mounted on it - except of course the headset and bottom bracket which were included. It also comes with a seatpost. Charlie -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: best way to make sure brake levers are, well...level!
Luckily was able to swap the bars and levers on my SimpleOne indoors over the winter. Followed the Rivendell method and used a table to make the levers even. In the garage during summer it's basically feel. Eyeball it then hop on the bike and ride around the block with a 5mm wrench and adjust to taste. Not fast or time saving, but it's worked for me over the years. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Eyeball. I look at the shape made by the angle of the hood against the curve of the bar. If the shape is different, the height is different. Then I test the feel, standing over the bike, with the hoods 3/4 tightened, so I can nudge them and fudge them into the right spot. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Playing Hooky
Took yesterday off work in part to get out on the SimpleOne. Was only the second time this year. Weather and cold have kept me on geared bikes too much. Rode over to Jim Thil's shop where he surprised me with a cool tool (thanks!) Happened across a friend and we rode together for a while until I stopped at a seafood place to pick up a couple pounds of mussels for supper. Ended up with 26 miles and a full belly in the evening. Pic to prove it happened - http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/8657883100/in/photostream Eric Platt St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do! Cheers! lyle On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they have real winters, things are looking good. Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards entropy, I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it. This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300 membersand last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors open. One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about either. And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion. I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have arrived, everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the doors means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to make that work. The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the case. The quality of discussions remain high. The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it periodically gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when you are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to state them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and well-thought-through, you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well. The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of this list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to more general lists. Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking about the items. And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live get-togethers among the members. As the photos from recent regional rides, there's a lot to cover just within the stated topic of this group. All good stuff. No... GREAT stuff. Take a new friend riding this month, and make sure they finish with a big smile. Tone is a critical issue. My view is simple: life is too short. If you can't stay positive or at least polite, it's time to put down the keyboard and take a break. We all get enough guff in our everyday existence that we don't need to add to it here. As I've said before, disagreement is expected. There's no way we will all come to the same conclusion about anything, and I think it would be a more boring world if we did. But, here, under this roof, we agree to disagree with respect for one another. To finish, I'll repeat what I said in the last full-length SOTLR (wow, was it really 2010?) - it is important as we grow to honor the relatively narrow focus of this group, even though it's tempting to have more general topics discussed here. Clearly, it's a bit of an imperfect border, but one which we've largely maintained. Letting discussions end as they creep toward more general topics, not having to have the last comment (or needing to win the argument) and, above all, maintaining the respect for one another within the group is what makes this list special. As always, thanks again for contributing to or simply enjoying the discussions. - Jim Jim Edgar / Cyclofiend.com / List Admin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For
Re: [RBW] Early Rivendell Folk
I suddenly have a craving for Hagen Dazs ... Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Apr 16, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com wrote: This is a fun video of people just riding http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDUe9BFPrzg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim: http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746 (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on those rims.) Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would build you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation; Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is you need.. But you work at a shop now, right? Just thinkin' Build your own wheelset? I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it... they're functioning very well for me. I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the spokes, and did it myself... learned a lot, and can now tune up my family's wheels as needed now -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTT Moustache bars for Noodle bars 46 or 48cm
I have a set of Nitto Moustache bars and need a set of Nitto Noodle bars 46 or 48cm A few scratches from insertion and some tape residue on the Moustache bars. Bars used for only a short time. Thanks Tom Dusky Huntington Woods MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: All Rounder with Midge bar UPDATE
hi Jinxed - beautiful set up. I have an old road bike frame project in the mill. Can you measure drop on your bars for me? The 345mm overall drop listed by on-one for these bars makes no sense. Thanks On Friday, March 15, 2013 7:15:01 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote: OK. So after some excellent and insightful RBW list input I went ahead and ordered the OnOne Midge bars some Cane Creek levers, and some Kenda MTB tires. My immediate goal was to alter the hand positions. I've been pretty content with the mustache bar set up, but have come to really enjoy the flats and wide sram hoods of my cross bike. My default position on the m-bars was basically on the very ends with my palms hanging over the bar end shifters. I thought adding the closer brake position and the flats of a more traditional drop bar would be a welcome change. As soon as the bars came in, I was happy I made the purchase, even if they dont remain on the Rivendell. Right out of the box they looked interestingly comfortable. NICE wide top flat section, short reach, tight and short drop. They flair but not out of control. I had heard the drop section was short, and it is, but to me seemed perfect. I got them installed with a vacant stem so I wouldnt have to completely disassemble my M-bar set up. The stem is a little too long, but the short reach on the bar still pulled the levers back vs the m-bar. I set up the Midge essentially parallel with the ground with the drops pointing down. The levers then become a nice flat extension of the bar and make for some good hand placement real estate! The flair on the midge is restrained enough to still use the tops of the lever hoods. This is what I was looking for. I also wanted to add some knobbage to the marathonesque bonty tires I was using without going full on 2.1 mtb. I am VERY happy I ran across the Kenda Klimax 1.9 tires. They were exactly what I wanted. Good enough knobs to hit some aggressive singletrack, but civilized on the pavement. So now in V.3.0 I took to the road so to speak. I did a nice meandering 30+ mile ride in mixed terrain to get some initial impressions. The extra width and positions of the bars were very welcome in varying conditions. Having the flats gave a nice upright comfortable cruising placement and then the wide hoods were awesome in the dirt. I was so impressed with the feel off road, I would consider these on my dedicated mtb. The drops worked surprisingly well on the couple steep dirt climbs I encountered too. I had quick access to the shifters without having to move away from reaching the brakes. So overall I think this is a positive change. I will say this however...when you ride a 700c CX bike and a 29er MTB...jumping on a 26 feels SO SLUGGISH. I kept checking to see if my brakes were dragging! I kept wondering if I could shoehorn a 650b in there and get some brakes to work! The AR is an awesome bike, but I will say that my old too small Bleriot felt loads more efficient. Here is a beautiful shot of the garage door with the newly altered bike obscuring the view. http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8561112128_8bc9a3e879_b.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] F/S Large Sackville SaddleSack
I have had this bag for over a year and have yet to use it. It is in like new condition. $200 shipped http://www.flickr.com/photos/greenwayrider/sets/72157633209105753/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: All Rounder with Midge bar UPDATE
also, is anyone using a Soma Road 1 bar? tried a search with no luck On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:20:11 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: hi Jinxed - beautiful set up. I have an old road bike frame project in the mill. Can you measure drop on your bars for me? The 345mm overall drop listed by on-one for these bars makes no sense. Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone gone to all upright bars - Albatross, Bosco, etc?
I've run Albatross bars on my Surly Cross Check and on my Big Dummy briefly and they worked great. Although currently both bikes are running the Surly Open Bar which I currently like more as it's stiffer and the position works better for offroad riding and fast descending. The Albatross bars seem to put me in a bit more upright position than I desire. All that said, I'm fickle and could easily see returning to the Albatross bar. I've done two 90 mile rides on the CC with the Open Bar and they were fine. I don't know that it's ideal. I have some hand issues, numbness, and the bar seemed to exacerbate it in a way drop bars dont. I ordered Boscos for my Big Dummy and they seem okay, but like the Albatross bars, put me in a more upright position than I desire. That's not so bad for the Big Dummy. What killed leaving them on the bike was that they made it much more difficult to get the bike out of the basement. When I first got my Hilsen I could never imagine putting a bar like the Albatross on it. Who would do such a thing to such a nice, capable and expensive bike? My thinking has changed and I've toyed with the idea over the past year or so. I'm likely to make the switch later this year when my riding slows down even more. I now see how a person could go all upright bars on their bikes but I don't see it for myself. I gotta say, I've become a big fan of the 48cm Noodles. I have those on my LHT and they're fantastic. I've considered them for my Hilsen but am more likely to go with Albatross bars later this year. Perhaps next year. Or the year after. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Anyone gone to all upright bars - Albatross, Bosco, etc?
I have albatross bars on my Bombadil and love them. I considered going back to drops after the frame gets back from paint, however since then I took the AHH touring with drop bars. Only three days but I will tell you that I sure missed the Albatross's. To say the least when the Bombadil gets back from paint I will be putting them back on.I've ridden them two weeks across Alaska on pavement and gravel, the Katy Trail, the GAP, Single Track around town and the West Coast of Michigan in the last year and a half. In headwinds I just ride up in the hooks (I spend a lot of time there actually) and when climbing and drinking coffee back on the grips. They have been fantastic for me. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7699251132/in/set-72157630829044946 Good luck on the build, I can't wait to see pictures. Kelly On Monday, April 15, 2013 12:36:14 PM UTC-5, markt...@gmail.com wrote: I've just recently ordered a new single top tube Sam that Jim Thill will be helping me to assemble. I noticed that all of Grant P's bikes are shown with upright bars on the staff bikes page of the Riv website. Have any of the rest of you gone all upright. Any limits for how far you've found an albatross or bosco bar to be comfortable? Thanks, Mark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
+1 for building your own. I'm no mechanical genius, but I have now built more than half a dozen wheelsets, and they're all on the road and doing fine, including a couple of wooden rim wheelsets, a Rohloff rear and a couple of SON dynamo wheels. It's not that hard -- I just read through Sheldon's article on wheelbuilding first (here: http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html ), and now I keep it by my wheelbuilding stand as a security blanket. Take your time, be careful, and you'll get a good result. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Leslie Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:54 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: internet-bob Subject: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim: http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746 (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on those rims.) Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would build you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation; Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is you need.. But you work at a shop now, right? Just thinkin' Build your own wheelset? I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it... they're functioning very well for me. I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the spokes, and did it myself... learned a lot, and can now tune up my family's wheels as needed now -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
My advice, Buy the best , buy it once ! I have hired Joe Young (youngwheels.com)to build 2 sets of Mavic/Phil Wood wheels for me, absolutely perfectly true/round wheels that have stayed that way, like any true professionally built wheels should ! He used to build wheels for Riv back in the day. Unless you are really really good , or like messing(truing) with wheels, have a Dedicated Professional build you a set, and they will last a long time. Cartridge bearing hubs only from my perspective. No maintenance required. If you like messing with hubs, get some Shimano. Otherwise Phil,DT or White hubs. The hubs from VO look nice, but if you need a new freehub or something, whatcha do ? No thanks ! The name-brands like Phil will at least help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] The Jack Taylor Story
Today's blog post is about the story of the Taylor brothers, famous for their wonderful touring bikes and tandems, with wonderfully evocative photos of men and machines in post-war Britain. http://janheine.wordpress.com/2013/04/16/the-jack-taylor-story/ Enjoy! Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little queasy
when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper posts show up
here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle Lifestyle,
but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum dedicated to the
Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion, of course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.com
wrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.netjavascript:
wrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting excited
about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they have real
winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there
seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not related to
the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a problem, but
given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards entropy, I thought it
might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've
written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice
that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone
who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I
especially
thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging out
here since we threw the doors open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by
what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think that
Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize the
things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just
enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about
racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about
either.
And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion.
I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a
public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have arrived,
everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the doors
means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to
make that work.
The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the case.
The quality of discussions remain high.
The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it
periodically
gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when you
are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to state
them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and well-thought-through,
you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well.
The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of this
list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to
remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it
doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to more
general lists.
Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of
traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to
noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking
about the items.
And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live
get-togethers among the members. As the photos from recent regional
rides, there's a lot to cover just within the stated topic of this group.All
good stuff. No... GREAT stuff. Take a new friend riding this month,
and make sure they finish with a big smile.
Tone is a critical issue.
My view is simple: life is too short. If you can't stay positive or at
least polite, it's time to put down the keyboard and take a break. We all
get enough guff in our everyday existence that we don't need to add to it
here.
As I've said before, disagreement is expected. There's no way we will all
come to the same conclusion about anything, and I think it would be a more
boring world if we did. But, here, under this roof, we agree to disagree
with respect for one another.
To finish, I'll repeat what I said in the last full-length SOTLR (wow,
was it really 2010?) - it is important as we grow to honor the
relatively narrow focus of this group, even though it's tempting to have
more general topics discussed here. Clearly, it's a bit of an imperfect
border, but one which we've largely maintained.
Letting discussions end as they creep toward more general topics, not
having to have the last comment (or needing to win the argument) and,
above all, maintaining the respect for one another within the
[RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions
In my experience the Nitto racks are stronger and better made than the Tubus racks even though their self described limits are similar. I've had one rack, a Tubus Vega that broke at a weld joint as I was gently stretching it to fit on a tandem hub. Nitto's are bombproof and beautifully made. ~mike On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:35:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: I also have a black Tubus Cargo... the silver one Rene is selling. It's not as nice (finish) or beefy (size robust construction) as the Nitto, but it's a great rack. The Nitto is beefy but not necessarily more robust than the Tubus. The Tubus Cargo is an excellent design that uses proven structural features to ensure strength. Likewise Bruce Gordon's racks. The Nitto is more about being big - but certainly lovely to look at nonetheless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT: Thoughts on this Fixie?
My wife has a Miele road bike from the same era and likes it a lot. The frame is nice, columbus tubing and has nicely shaped and thinned lugs, definitely not cheap looking. She said she couldn't imagine anything more comfortable, that is until we built her a Heron touring bike with upright bars :-). With the road models like this one, tire and fender clearance is definitely going to be an issue. My wife's is definitely built in the late 80's/early 90's road bike modality, with clearance maybe for a 28mm tire under short-reach brakes. No fenders. It might be an ideal candidate for 650b conversion, however. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:52:02 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm intrigued by the idea of a fixie and then this pops up at a price I can afford. It would be for local flatter routes (800 feet elevation over 4 miles) and fun rides, mostly to come to understand the fixtie experience. Would this be $100 lost? Is a Miele frame quality enough to be good at 15-20+ years old? I've written the owner asking about clearance for larger tires and condition/age of the frame. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The Jack Taylor Story
Jan, can I order a copy of that issue and pick it up in Seattle? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rear rack advice/suggestions
I like Nitto racks since I dont have to think too hard about them. They are beautiful, well made and way under rated load wise. I have used a variety of other racks and nothing is like my Nittos. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: In my experience the Nitto racks are stronger and better made than the Tubus racks even though their self described limits are similar. I've had one rack, a Tubus Vega that broke at a weld joint as I was gently stretching it to fit on a tandem hub. Nitto's are bombproof and beautifully made. ~mike On Monday, April 15, 2013 6:35:23 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: I also have a black Tubus Cargo... the silver one Rene is selling. It's not as nice (finish) or beefy (size robust construction) as the Nitto, but it's a great rack. The Nitto is beefy but not necessarily more robust than the Tubus. The Tubus Cargo is an excellent design that uses proven structural features to ensure strength. Likewise Bruce Gordon's racks. The Nitto is more about being big - but certainly lovely to look at nonetheless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Joe,
I suspect for a lot of folks, Riv bikes and Riv stuff remains aspirational.
If they come here for ideas, it works.
Eventually, they will have the $$$ for the dream.
Will
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little
queasy when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper posts
show up here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle
Lifestyle, but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum dedicated
to the Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion, of
course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.net wrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting
excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they
have real winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there
seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not related to
the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a problem, but
given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards entropy, I thought it
might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've
written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice
that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone
who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I
especially
thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging
out here since we threw the doors open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by
what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think that
Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize the
things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just
enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about
racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about
either.
And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion.
I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a
public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have arrived,
everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the doors
means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to
make that work.
The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the
case. The quality of discussions remain high.
The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it
periodically
gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when you
are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to state
them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and well-thought-through,
you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well.
The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of this
list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to
remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it
doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to more
general lists.
Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of
traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to
noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking
about the items.
And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live
get-togethers among the members. As the photos from recent regional
rides, there's a lot to cover just within the stated topic of this
group. All good stuff. No... GREAT stuff. Take a new friend riding
this month, and make sure they finish with a big smile.
Tone is a critical issue.
My view is simple: life is too short. If you can't stay positive or at
least polite, it's time to put down the keyboard and take a break. We all
get enough guff in our everyday existence that we don't need to add to it
here.
As I've said before, disagreement is expected. There's no way we will
all come to the same conclusion about anything, and I think it would be a
more boring world if we did. But, here, under this roof, we agree to
disagree with respect for one another.
To finish, I'll repeat what I said in the last full-length SOTLR (wow,
was it really 2010?) - it is important as we grow to honor the
relatively narrow focus of this group, even though it's tempting to have
more general topics discussed here. Clearly, it's a bit of an imperfect
border,
[RBW] Re: Short Rear Cassette Hub?
BMX cassette driver hubs don't have interchangeble cogs, the cog and the freehub body are one piece. That allows them to run something like a 9t(!) rear cog on the microdrive setups currently popular with BMX'ers. The SunXCD 5spd, 120mm cassette hub first appeared on the radar about a year ago (just after the Taipei show?), but it seemed like it was only available in Asia. Now it seems Merry Sales has set up a import deal with them, but the stuff hasn't appeared on US shores yet. I'd expect it to appear sometime this year, keep an eye on the Soma/Merry blog or ask your local LBS with a Merry Sales account to keep an eye on the monthly flyers that Merry sends out. I want them to mate the 5spd cassette body to 130 or 135mm spaced hub, with appropriately wide and symmetric flanges. Or maybe I'll try the cassette SS with many cogs thing one of these days. Ira Ryan put 4 of 8 on a CK hub on his Oregon Manifest bike a couple of years ago: http://www.flickr.com/photos/iraryancycles/6190450769/in/faves-85709120@N07/ On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 2:43:34 PM UTC-7, Jay B wrote: you're right, Keith, the 130mm isn't a drastic move at all. i have a 105 hub that slides right into the dropouts on the QB. i'll look into those Profile Racing 120mm hubs. I know next to nothing about BMX specific components. -Jay B. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:16:17 PM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote: Given the fact that several people have successfully re-set the rear end of Simple Ones to utilize 135mm Rohloff hubs though, I think 130mm might not be too drastic of a modification, if someone were really set on the idea. The other option might be to go *smalle*r - to a BMX 110 mm spacing. A quick web search turns up at least one mfgr., Profile, has several single speed cassette hubs. Looks like they even offer a 120mm upgrade too. Not sure what the freehub interface looks like, though: https://www.profileracing.com/estore/product.php?productId=110 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Manny in PDX ride... Sat 4/13
Smiles all around, and not a clean bike to be seen! And here's a blatant endorsement for the SKS longboards: http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/8645949783/in/photostream/ Cheers cc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Craigslist mistake delivers a new Bleriot.
I've sometimes felt this way but then I began to encounter Rivs in the wild here in Boulder; a pair of his and hers Atlantii at an art event, a baker/accordian craftsman with a Hillborne and a local blogger with another, a Japanese Flute player with a Ram. I know there are a lot of people out there but I don't know how many are on the list. I'm sure our riding styles vary as much as Colorado's terrain too. Any suggestions on where we might gather? On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:50:52 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: NICE!! Dang...there are so many Riv owners posting from Colorado! I have only seen one (suspected) Rivendell in the wild here in Denver unfortunately. I wonder if there would be enough support/interest in doing a Rivendell Rally Mile High edition?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
Ah. I love joe, had him build me a set of wheels 10 years ago, and they are still true enough that I still have not had to adjust them. Great guy to deal with, was happy to see he was still building wheels. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
http://www.brooksengland.com/ Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle. The Cambium. You can register to be a tester. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Craigslist mistake delivers a new Bleriot.
What about a S24-48H meet up early summer on forest service roads and/or Great Divide Mountain Bike trail? I say this knowing I would be a highly dubious participant due to my brain injury (highly sensitive to soap, and laundry scents, sounds, and much more, any of which can end my ability to participate). Wherever it is, I am more likely to be able to join the more remote it is. Lost Creek Wilderness is a great possibility, particularly the area S/SE of Kenosha Pass, and that offers some great rides from Como to Breckenridge (I can't remember the pass at the moment). That could be a day ride. Once the snow clears. Perhaps we should start it's own thread for the Colorado Meetup? With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:40:28 AM UTC-6, Phillip Hathaway wrote: I've sometimes felt this way but then I began to encounter Rivs in the wild here in Boulder; a pair of his and hers Atlantii at an art event, a baker/accordian craftsman with a Hillborne and a local blogger with another, a Japanese Flute player with a Ram. I know there are a lot of people out there but I don't know how many are on the list. I'm sure our riding styles vary as much as Colorado's terrain too. Any suggestions on where we might gather? On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:50:52 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: NICE!! Dang...there are so many Riv owners posting from Colorado! I have only seen one (suspected) Rivendell in the wild here in Denver unfortunately. I wonder if there would be enough support/interest in doing a Rivendell Rally Mile High edition?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Colorado Ramble?
Starting this in it's own thread from: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cLxPstsnm6M Duplicating my input: What about a S24-48H meet up early summer on forest service roads and/or Great Divide Mountain Bike trail? I say this knowing I would be a highly dubious participant due to my brain injury (highly sensitive to soap, and laundry scents, sounds, and much more, any of which can end my ability to participate). Wherever it is, I am more likely to be able to join the more remote it is. Lost Creek Wilderness is a great possibility, particularly the area S/SE of Kenosha Pass, and that offers some great rides from Como to Breckenridge (I can't remember the pass at the moment). That could be a day ride. Once the snow clears. With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Craigslist mistake delivers a new Bleriot.
New thread started here for the Colorado Ramble: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/etzs7kTuz08 With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:08:55 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: What about a S24-48H meet up early summer on forest service roads and/or Great Divide Mountain Bike trail? I say this knowing I would be a highly dubious participant due to my brain injury (highly sensitive to soap, and laundry scents, sounds, and much more, any of which can end my ability to participate). Wherever it is, I am more likely to be able to join the more remote it is. Lost Creek Wilderness is a great possibility, particularly the area S/SE of Kenosha Pass, and that offers some great rides from Como to Breckenridge (I can't remember the pass at the moment). That could be a day ride. Once the snow clears. Perhaps we should start it's own thread for the Colorado Meetup? With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:40:28 AM UTC-6, Phillip Hathaway wrote: I've sometimes felt this way but then I began to encounter Rivs in the wild here in Boulder; a pair of his and hers Atlantii at an art event, a baker/accordian craftsman with a Hillborne and a local blogger with another, a Japanese Flute player with a Ram. I know there are a lot of people out there but I don't know how many are on the list. I'm sure our riding styles vary as much as Colorado's terrain too. Any suggestions on where we might gather? On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 4:50:52 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: NICE!! Dang...there are so many Riv owners posting from Colorado! I have only seen one (suspected) Rivendell in the wild here in Denver unfortunately. I wonder if there would be enough support/interest in doing a Rivendell Rally Mile High edition?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Understanding Silver Shifters video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Drh4PHMQwKI Anyone know where to get a replacement spring for that thing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations
Is there a good group for general C V? General Camping/Touring? Mechanics? I thought maybe people could post groups they are a part of for OT posts. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS Spring cleaning parts
With the purchase of my new Bleriot I am selling the build parts from my previous project. The frame will be available on the iBob and rcog lists. All of these parts are nearly new. Put on my abandoned Rawland project and ridden for about 10 miles so some insertion/assembly marks but little wear. I will add actual shipping to the listed price. Dia Compe #610 centerpull brake set $100 Dia Compe 204 non aero levers with Gran Compe adjusters $25 Shimano M324 platform/clipless pedals $25 Shimano CX70 FD new in box $30 Nitto Crystal Fellow 27.2 seat post $50 Nitto Moustache 26.0mm bars $50 Paul 1-1/8 front brake hanger $30 Brooks B 17 standard in brown $65 Pictures are available here http://www.flickr.com/photos/flipvelo/sets/72157633252659827/ I'm interested in a trade for a B68 Brooks and a small trunksack for the front of my new Bleriot. Contact off list is preferred. Thanks Phil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations
Ryan, Good suggestion. Perhaps you should start such a group. Best, Hugh Sunland, CA On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:44:13 AM UTC-7, Ryan Ray wrote: Is there a good group for general C V? General Camping/Touring? Mechanics? I thought maybe people could post groups they are a part of for OT posts. - Ryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
I tried to register to be a tester and got the following error message: Errore nel salvataggio dei dati System.Data.EntityException: The underlying provider failed on Open. --- MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlException: Too many connections at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlStream.ReadPacket() [snipped really long error message] Did anyone else succeed in registering? thanks, Andrew From: Michael john11.2...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, April 17, 2013 10:03:53 AM Subject: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out http://www.brooksengland.com/ Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle. The Cambium. You can register to be a tester. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
Nope, same problem From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Letton Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:52 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out I tried to register to be a tester and got the following error message: Errore nel salvataggio dei dati System.Data.EntityException: The underlying provider failed on Open. --- MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlException: Too many connections at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlStream.ReadPacket() [snipped really long error message] Did anyone else succeed in registering? thanks, Andrew From: Michael john11.2...@gmail.commailto:john11.2...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, April 17, 2013 10:03:53 AM Subject: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out http://www.brooksengland.com/ Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle. The Cambium. You can register to be a tester. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
I was able to register but have not received a confirmation email. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Nope, same problem ** ** *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Letton *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:52 PM *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out ** ** I tried to register to be a tester and got the following error message: Errore nel salvataggio dei dati System.Data.EntityException: The underlying provider failed on Open. --- MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlException: Too many connections at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlStream.ReadPacket() [*snipped really long error message*] * Did anyone else succeed in registering?* thanks, Andrew ** ** -- *From:* Michael john11.2...@gmail.com *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Wed, April 17, 2013 10:03:53 AM *Subject:* [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out http://www.brooksengland.com/ Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle. The Cambium. You can register to be a tester. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
Nevermind... it went through on the fourth try. cheers, Andrew From: Andrew Letton let...@flash.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, April 17, 2013 10:52:19 AM Subject: Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out I tried to register to be a tester and got the following error message: Errore nel salvataggio dei dati System.Data.EntityException: The underlying provider failed on Open. --- MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlException: Too many connections at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlStream.ReadPacket() [snipped really long error message] Did anyone else succeed in registering? thanks, Andrew From: Michael john11.2...@gmail.com To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Wed, April 17, 2013 10:03:53 AM Subject: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out http://www.brooksengland.com/ Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle. The Cambium. You can register to be a tester. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Colorado Ramble?
Deacon, wish I was out you way and I'd be in. Best, Hugh On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:11:14 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Starting this in it's own thread from: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cLxPstsnm6M Duplicating my input: What about a S24-48H meet up early summer on forest service roads and/or Great Divide Mountain Bike trail? I say this knowing I would be a highly dubious participant due to my brain injury (highly sensitive to soap, and laundry scents, sounds, and much more, any of which can end my ability to participate). Wherever it is, I am more likely to be able to join the more remote it is. Lost Creek Wilderness is a great possibility, particularly the area S/SE of Kenosha Pass, and that offers some great rides from Como to Breckenridge (I can't remember the pass at the moment). That could be a day ride. Once the snow clears. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS Spring cleaning parts
Phil- I'm interested in the Brooks B17 and the Moustache bar. Shipping to 52404. They'd look awesome on my Riv Road. Tim On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Phillip Hathaway pily...@mac.com wrote: With the purchase of my new Bleriot I am selling the build parts from my previous project. The frame will be available on the iBob and rcog lists. All of these parts are nearly new. Put on my abandoned Rawland project and ridden for about 10 miles so some insertion/assembly marks but little wear. I will add actual shipping to the listed price. Dia Compe #610 centerpull brake set $100 Dia Compe 204 non aero levers with Gran Compe adjusters $25 Shimano M324 platform/clipless pedals $25 Shimano CX70 FD new in box $30 Nitto Crystal Fellow 27.2 seat post $50 Nitto Moustache 26.0mm bars $50 Paul 1-1/8 front brake hanger $30 Brooks B 17 standard in brown $65 Pictures are available here http://www.flickr.com/photos/flipvelo/sets/72157633252659827/ I'm interested in a trade for a B68 Brooks and a small trunksack for the front of my new Bleriot. Contact off list is preferred. Thanks Phil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Colorado Ramble?
If you're ever out this way, Hugh, let me know. It's be great to figure something out. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:58:43 AM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Deacon, wish I was out you way and I'd be in. Best, Hugh On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:11:14 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Starting this in it's own thread from: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cLxPstsnm6M Duplicating my input: What about a S24-48H meet up early summer on forest service roads and/or Great Divide Mountain Bike trail? I say this knowing I would be a highly dubious participant due to my brain injury (highly sensitive to soap, and laundry scents, sounds, and much more, any of which can end my ability to participate). Wherever it is, I am more likely to be able to join the more remote it is. Lost Creek Wilderness is a great possibility, particularly the area S/SE of Kenosha Pass, and that offers some great rides from Como to Breckenridge (I can't remember the pass at the moment). That could be a day ride. Once the snow clears. With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] 58cm Bosco Bullmoose Extension
I poked around the web and archives but couldnt get a 100% answer. What is the extension, ie reach-not quill length, on the 58CM Bullmoose Bosco Bars? (Riv content 100%) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
+2 for building your own. It's not rocket science and the quality will be as good as it gets if you can follow directions. :) Kelly On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:45:54 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: +1 for building your own. I’m no mechanical genius, but I have now built more than half a dozen wheelsets, and they’re all on the road and doing fine, including a couple of wooden rim wheelsets, a Rohloff rear and a couple of SON dynamo wheels. It’s not that hard -- I just read through Sheldon’s article on wheelbuilding first (here: http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html ), and now I keep it by my wheelbuilding stand as a security blanket. Take your time, be careful, and you’ll get a good result. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Leslie *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:54 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Cc:* internet-bob *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim: http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746 (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on those rims.) Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would build you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation; Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is you need.. But you work at a shop now, right? Just thinkin' Build your own wheelset? I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it... they're functioning very well for me. I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the spokes, and did it myself... learned a lot, and can now tune up my family's wheels as needed now -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] trying again - drop on On-One Midge and Soma Road 1 bars?
Has anyone here ridden on Soma Road 1 bars, and what are your impressions? Also, the published overall drop on Midge bars, 345mm, makes no sense whatsoever. Can anyone measure the actual drop and reach on their midge bars? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
Thanks. Y'all almost have me convinced. I have built one (1) wheel, a fixed wheel with 36 spokes that presented absolutely no problem, thanks to Sheldon's instructions; this was still true after I'd put ~2K miles on it, many with heavy rear loads. We'll see. And thanks for the encouragement. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Kelly tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: +2 for building your own. It's not rocket science and the quality will be as good as it gets if you can follow directions. :) Kelly On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:45:54 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: +1 for building your own. I’m no mechanical genius, but I have now built more than half a dozen wheelsets, and they’re all on the road and doing fine, including a couple of wooden rim wheelsets, a Rohloff rear and a couple of SON dynamo wheels. It’s not that hard -- I just read through Sheldon’s article on wheelbuilding first (here: http://sheldonbrown.com/* *wheelbuild.html http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html ), and now I keep it by my wheelbuilding stand as a security blanket. Take your time, be careful, and you’ll get a good result. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@** googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Leslie *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:54 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com *Cc:* internet-bob *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim: http://www.velocityusa.com/**default.asp?contentID=746http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746 (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on those rims.) Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would build you a good wheel set.. not, a GREAT wheel set.I have two wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation; Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is you need.. But you work at a shop now, right? Just thinkin' Build your own wheelset? I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it... they're functioning very well for me. I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the spokes, and did it myself... learned a lot, and can now tune up my family's wheels as needed now -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. ** ==**==**== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --
Re: [RBW] trying again - drop on On-One Midge and Soma Road 1 bars?
My own personal hermeneutic of the ancient text below interprets it to mean: 554 mm ends of hooks, 37.5 mm width of tops, 112 mm drop c-c . http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HBOOMI/on_one_midge_handlebar Dimensions and stuff:- Geometry:- Width at the ends -- 554mm - centre/centre Width of flat section or tops - 375mm Overall drop - 112mm centre/centre Sweep forward - 64.5mm centre/centre (from centre of bar clamp to centre of tube at the front. Flare at ends - 113deg Finish - black anodised with lazer logos. ID at ends (for bar end shifter users) - 19.8mm Brake Lever clamp size on main bit of bar - 23.8 (road lever clamp standard) Stem Bar C. Material:- 6061 aluminium. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone here ridden on Soma Road 1 bars, and what are your impressions? Also, the published overall drop on Midge bars, 345mm, makes no sense whatsoever. Can anyone measure the actual drop and reach on their midge bars? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] trying again - drop on On-One Midge and Soma Road 1 bars?
Yes, I think On One's text description needs a bit of formatting to help it. Let's try this (I'm guessing): Geometry: Width at the ends -- 554mm - centre/centre Width of flat section or tops - 375mm Overall drop - 112mm centre/centre Sweep forward - 64.5mm centre/centre (from centre of bar clamp to centre of tube at the front) Flare at ends - 113deg Finish - black anodised with lazer logos. ID at ends (for bar end shifter users) - 19.8mm Brake Lever clamp size on main bit of bar - 23.8 (road lever clamp standard) Stem Bar C. Material:- 6061 aluminium. Weight 25.4mm 277gr (White finish) Weight 31.8mm 299gr (White finish) On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:43:04 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: My own personal hermeneutic of the ancient text below interprets it to mean: 554 mm ends of hooks, 37.5 mm width of tops, 112 mm drop c-c . http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HBOOMI/on_one_midge_handlebar Dimensions and stuff:- Geometry:- Width at the ends -- 554mm - centre/centre Width of flat section or tops - 375mm Overall drop - 112mm centre/centre Sweep forward - 64.5mm centre/centre (from centre of bar clamp to centre of tube at the front. Flare at ends - 113deg Finish - black anodised with lazer logos. ID at ends (for bar end shifter users) - 19.8mm Brake Lever clamp size on main bit of bar - 23.8 (road lever clamp standard) Stem Bar C. Material:- 6061 aluminium. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Has anyone here ridden on Soma Road 1 bars, and what are your impressions? Also, the published overall drop on Midge bars, 345mm, makes no sense whatsoever. Can anyone measure the actual drop and reach on their midge bars? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
Patrick, Build 'em! -L PS: I need to make a correction to my original post. I typed 'not', when I meant 'no'; unfortunately, that extra 't' changes the meaning. Peter, Rich, Jim, Anthony, Joe, etc., can build 'great' wheels. I had meant to type: can build good, no, great wheels, but by saying can build good not great wheels seems to say they're okay, but not great. *Not* what I meant. However, although they build great wheels, you can build a great wheel, too. If someone doesn't want to build a wheel, by all means, call one of them, or find a local builder. But if someone is inclined, they can handle it. -L On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:38:59 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Thanks. Y'all almost have me convinced. I have built one (1) wheel, a fixed wheel with 36 spokes that presented absolutely no problem, thanks to Sheldon's instructions; this was still true after I'd put ~2K miles on it, many with heavy rear loads. We'll see. And thanks for the encouragement. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Kelly tksl...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: +2 for building your own. It's not rocket science and the quality will be as good as it gets if you can follow directions. :) Kelly On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:45:54 AM UTC-5, Pudge wrote: +1 for building your own. I’m no mechanical genius, but I have now built more than half a dozen wheelsets, and they’re all on the road and doing fine, including a couple of wooden rim wheelsets, a Rohloff rear and a couple of SON dynamo wheels. It’s not that hard -- I just read through Sheldon’s article on wheelbuilding first (here: http://sheldonbrown.com/ **wheelbuild.html http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html ), and now I keep it by my wheelbuilding stand as a security blanket. Take your time, be careful, and you’ll get a good result. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@** googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Leslie *Sent:* Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:54 AM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com *Cc:* internet-bob *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram For a rim, I would suggest considering Velocity's A23 rim: http://www.velocityusa.com/**default.asp?contentID=746http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=746 (I have them in 650b, and really like them, built my first wheelset on those rims.) Jim Thill, Rich Lesnik, Anthony at Longleaf, Peter White... all would build you a good wheel set.. no, a *GREAT* wheel set.I have two wheelsets that Rich built me before I started building my own, his are perfect; Peter has a stellar reputation; Anthony is who I got my 650b A23 rims from; and Jim is just an all-round great fella, can-do whatever it is you need.. But you work at a shop now, right? Just thinkin' Build your own wheelset? I queued up numerous videos on youtube, read Jobst Brandt's book, used my HoH wheels as a guide, and had at it... they're functioning very well for me. I picked the hubs I wanted, picked the rims, picked the spokes, and did it myself... learned a lot, and can now tune up my family's wheels as needed now -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any
[RBW] Re: trying again - drop on On-One Midge and Soma Road 1 bars?
I was not home when you posted the question earliersorry for the delay. Looks like the on-one measurements got sorted for you. Good luck on the Somas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: trying again - drop on On-One Midge and Soma Road 1 bars?
thanks, I'm taking the road parts that I swapped out on my old Raleigh rebuild and going to build up a such-a-deal Francesco Moser frame into a brew-pub racer. Going for a modest drop position and so far, I'm looking at those two bars. I like the shape of the Road 1 bars, and the 75mm reach and 130mm drop sounds like a nice compromise. I'm going to use bar reach and stem length to get the upper bar position very close to what I like on my dialed-in moustache bars. On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:59:03 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote: I was not home when you posted the question earliersorry for the delay. Looks like the on-one measurements got sorted for you. Good luck on the Somas. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
yes they're having a bandwidth problem. I got into the form, but submit always ends up with an error message in Italian - I kind of like it. On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:57:50 PM UTC-5, Andrew Letton wrote: Nevermind... it went through on the fourth try. cheers, Andrew -- *From:* Andrew Letton let...@flash.net javascript: *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Wed, April 17, 2013 10:52:19 AM *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out I tried to register to be a tester and got the following error message: Errore nel salvataggio dei dati System.Data.EntityException: The underlying provider failed on Open. --- MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlException: Too many connections at MySql.Data.MySqlClient.MySqlStream.ReadPacket() [*snipped really long error message*] * Did anyone else succeed in registering?* thanks, Andrew -- *From:* Michael john1...@gmail.com javascript: *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Sent:* Wed, April 17, 2013 10:03:53 AM *Subject:* [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out http://www.brooksengland.com/ Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle. The Cambium. You can register to be a tester. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Rivendell Bleriot (Frame/Fork/Headset) and 650b Wheelset
I wish I were in SF. Who wants to pick it up and ship it to me? Eric Indpls -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
I hit submit and nothing happens On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:03:49 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote: http://www.brooksengland.com/ Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle. The Cambium. You can register to be a tester. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
I dont want to speak for Joe but what I would add is if you are looking for
a used Rivendell bike because a new one is out of reach that is great IMO,
since it is getting you on a Rivendell and into the fold, so to speak. On
the other hand, if you are asking if someone makes a bike like Rivendell
for 1k cheaper, maybe not so much, maybe google that one for yourself. As
for gear, if it is sold out and you put out an apb on an item to see
someone has it that is fine but I try to get my gear new from Rivendell if
at all possible since I think that is where most small businesses make
their margins-on these so called accessories. Just my 2 cents.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06:39 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
Joe,
I suspect for a lot of folks, Riv bikes and Riv stuff remains
aspirational. If they come here for ideas, it works.
Eventually, they will have the $$$ for the dream.
Will
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little
queasy when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper posts
show up here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle
Lifestyle, but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum dedicated
to the Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion, of
course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.net wrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting
excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they
have real winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there
seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not related
to
the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a problem, but
given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards entropy, I thought
it
might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've
written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice
that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone
who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I
especially
thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging
out here since we threw the doors open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by
what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think
that
Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize the
things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just
enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about
racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about
either.
And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion.
I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a
public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have arrived,
everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the doors
means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to
make that work.
The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the
case. The quality of discussions remain high.
The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it
periodically
gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when
you are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to
state them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and
well-thought-through,
you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well.
The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of this
list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to
remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it
doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to more
general lists.
Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of
traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to
noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking
about the items.
And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live
get-togethers among the members. As the photos from recent regional
rides, there's a lot to cover just within the stated topic of this
group. All good stuff. No... GREAT stuff. Take a new friend riding
this month, and make sure they finish with a big smile.
Tone is a critical issue.
My view is simple: life is too short. If you can't
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
I haven't seen anything remotely like gouging in Rivendell's prices. There
may be a few items where a better discount can be found elsewhere, but most
of the stuff I want, anyway, Rivendell has a better price than even Amazon.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:50:31 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
I dont want to speak for Joe but what I would add is if you are looking
for a used Rivendell bike because a new one is out of reach that is great
IMO, since it is getting you on a Rivendell and into the fold, so to speak.
On the other hand, if you are asking if someone makes a bike like Rivendell
for 1k cheaper, maybe not so much, maybe google that one for yourself. As
for gear, if it is sold out and you put out an apb on an item to see
someone has it that is fine but I try to get my gear new from Rivendell if
at all possible since I think that is where most small businesses make
their margins-on these so called accessories. Just my 2 cents.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06:39 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
Joe,
I suspect for a lot of folks, Riv bikes and Riv stuff remains
aspirational. If they come here for ideas, it works.
Eventually, they will have the $$$ for the dream.
Will
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little
queasy when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper posts
show up here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle
Lifestyle, but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum dedicated
to the Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion, of
course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7, LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.net wrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting
excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they
have real winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding,
there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not
related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a
problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards
entropy,
I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've
written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice
that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone
who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I
especially
thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging
out here since we threw the doors open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by
what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think
that
Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize
the
things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just
enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about
racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about
either.
And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion.
I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a
public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have
arrived,
everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the
doors
means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to
make that work.
The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the
case. The quality of discussions remain high.
The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it
periodically
gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when
you are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to
state them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and
well-thought-through,
you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well.
The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of
this list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to
remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it
doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to
more general lists.
Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of
traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to
noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking
about the items.
And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live
get-togethers among the members. As
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Agreed, the prices at Rivendell are very reasonable, I just dont know if
its Kosher for people to come here and say something like hey that Atlantis
is nice but does someone make a similar bike for less money? Just like, not
sure if I am off base here, but not sure if its cool or not if you are
looking for like a Saddlesack to come here first looking for a deal on a
used one before you see if Rivendell has one new. Again, I could be off on
that one but would hate for people to only come here looking to undercut
Rivendell by getting only used stuff.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't seen anything remotely like gouging in Rivendell's prices.
There may be a few items where a better discount can be found elsewhere,
but most of the stuff I want, anyway, Rivendell has a better price than
even Amazon.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:50:31 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
I dont want to speak for Joe but what I would add is if you are looking
for a used Rivendell bike because a new one is out of reach that is great
IMO, since it is getting you on a Rivendell and into the fold, so to speak.
On the other hand, if you are asking if someone makes a bike like Rivendell
for 1k cheaper, maybe not so much, maybe google that one for yourself. As
for gear, if it is sold out and you put out an apb on an item to see
someone has it that is fine but I try to get my gear new from Rivendell if
at all possible since I think that is where most small businesses make
their margins-on these so called accessories. Just my 2 cents.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06:39 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
Joe,
I suspect for a lot of folks, Riv bikes and Riv stuff remains
aspirational. If they come here for ideas, it works.
Eventually, they will have the $$$ for the dream.
Will
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little
queasy when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper posts
show up here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle
Lifestyle, but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum dedicated
to the Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion, of
course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7,
LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.net wrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting
excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they
have real winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding,
there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not
related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a
problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards
entropy,
I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've
written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice
that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking
everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting
discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in
sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors
open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves
by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think
that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they
emphasize
the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just
enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about
racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about
either.
And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion.
I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a
public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have
arrived,
everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the
doors
means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to
make that work.
The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the
case. The quality of discussions remain high.
The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it
periodically
gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when
you are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to
state them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and
well-thought-through,
you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well.
The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of
this list is
[RBW] Re: The Jack Taylor Story
Price includes shipping... so we'll just send it wherever you want it to go. Jan Heine Compass Bicycles Ltd. http://www.compasscycle.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:53:20 AM UTC-7, Scot Brooks wrote: Jan, can I order a copy of that issue and pick it up in Seattle? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
IMO: - Dynamo hub wheelset will be an easier sell, due to the popularity of LED lights. As an example the Avenir lights on Amazon are a killer deal. The tires probably have some life left. Probably, a wheelset like this new would cost approx $400.00 (maybe a little more, but if you look at Handspun's prices for similar stuff (Mavic A319 etc). Rotor would cost a few more bucks. The tires are worth something too. On the local CL (no shipping on top), somewhere around $225? That could be a pretty good deal for someone. Probably worth more to just keep the wheels, considering what you must have invested in them. On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02:55 PM UTC-6, bertin753 wrote: Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo: Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear) black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160 mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset. I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26). What's a fair price for this one? Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes, hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine. 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram, silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular. 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer service, price, in that order? 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell? Thanks. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
I was able to submit my registration. I received my email to varify my email address. But when I try to follow the link to verify my email I get An Error Has Occurred message in English. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
I think the secondary market aspect of this list is valuable, and I don't
see any problem recommending a TIG welded alternative to a Riv model, since
Grant has done the same in the Rivendell Reader. We're not salespeople,
we're just people.
My two cents.
Philip
www.biketinker.com
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:15:37 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
Agreed, the prices at Rivendell are very reasonable, I just dont know if
its Kosher for people to come here and say something like hey that Atlantis
is nice but does someone make a similar bike for less money? Just like, not
sure if I am off base here, but not sure if its cool or not if you are
looking for like a Saddlesack to come here first looking for a deal on a
used one before you see if Rivendell has one new. Again, I could be off on
that one but would hate for people to only come here looking to undercut
Rivendell by getting only used stuff.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:
I haven't seen anything remotely like gouging in Rivendell's prices.
There may be a few items where a better discount can be found elsewhere,
but most of the stuff I want, anyway, Rivendell has a better price than
even Amazon.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:50:31 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
I dont want to speak for Joe but what I would add is if you are looking
for a used Rivendell bike because a new one is out of reach that is great
IMO, since it is getting you on a Rivendell and into the fold, so to speak.
On the other hand, if you are asking if someone makes a bike like Rivendell
for 1k cheaper, maybe not so much, maybe google that one for yourself. As
for gear, if it is sold out and you put out an apb on an item to see
someone has it that is fine but I try to get my gear new from Rivendell if
at all possible since I think that is where most small businesses make
their margins-on these so called accessories. Just my 2 cents.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06:39 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
Joe,
I suspect for a lot of folks, Riv bikes and Riv stuff remains
aspirational. If they come here for ideas, it works.
Eventually, they will have the $$$ for the dream.
Will
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little
queasy when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper posts
show up here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle
Lifestyle, but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum
dedicated
to the Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion,
of
course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7,
LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.netwrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting
excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they
have real winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding,
there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not
related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a
problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards
entropy,
I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As
I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more
than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking
everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting
discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in
sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors
open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves
by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't
think
that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they
emphasize
the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just
enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about
racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about
either.
And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion.
I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a
public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have
arrived,
everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the
doors
means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to
make that work.
The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the
case. The quality of discussions remain high.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Rivs are aspirational purchases for most and there seems to be room in the
list for Rivish. I doubt everyone who buys Riv products has a Riv frame.
Even some people who work there don't have a Riv frame.
- Ryan
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:02:59 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
I think the secondary market aspect of this list is valuable, and I
don't see any problem recommending a TIG welded alternative to a Riv model,
since Grant has done the same in the Rivendell Reader. We're not
salespeople, we're just people.
My two cents.
Philip
www.biketinker.com
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:15:37 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
Agreed, the prices at Rivendell are very reasonable, I just dont know if
its Kosher for people to come here and say something like hey that Atlantis
is nice but does someone make a similar bike for less money? Just like, not
sure if I am off base here, but not sure if its cool or not if you are
looking for like a Saddlesack to come here first looking for a deal on a
used one before you see if Rivendell has one new. Again, I could be off on
that one but would hate for people to only come here looking to undercut
Rivendell by getting only used stuff.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't seen anything remotely like gouging in Rivendell's prices.
There may be a few items where a better discount can be found elsewhere,
but most of the stuff I want, anyway, Rivendell has a better price than
even Amazon.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:50:31 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
I dont want to speak for Joe but what I would add is if you are looking
for a used Rivendell bike because a new one is out of reach that is great
IMO, since it is getting you on a Rivendell and into the fold, so to
speak.
On the other hand, if you are asking if someone makes a bike like
Rivendell
for 1k cheaper, maybe not so much, maybe google that one for yourself. As
for gear, if it is sold out and you put out an apb on an item to see
someone has it that is fine but I try to get my gear new from Rivendell
if
at all possible since I think that is where most small businesses make
their margins-on these so called accessories. Just my 2 cents.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06:39 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
Joe,
I suspect for a lot of folks, Riv bikes and Riv stuff remains
aspirational. If they come here for ideas, it works.
Eventually, they will have the $$$ for the dream.
Will
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little
queasy when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper
posts
show up here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle
Lifestyle, but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum
dedicated
to the Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion,
of
course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7, LyleBogart{AT}
gmail.com wrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.netwrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting
excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where
they
have real winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding,
there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not
related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's
a
problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards
entropy,
I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As
I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more
than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by
thanking
everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting
discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in
sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors
open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves
by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't
think
that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they
emphasize
the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short,
just
enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about
racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great
about
either.
And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion.
I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as
a public house where ideas are easily shared between those who
[RBW] Dutch Fender Light Question
Just picked up one of the dutch fender lights - When I went to install, realized that the screw is too long, it will rub the tire if I screw the bolt all the way snug - anyone install one of these yet? Tips for how to shorten the bolt? Am I doing something wrong? Bolt seems pretty long to me, I am guessing more people than just me would have the problem. Appreciate the help in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTB: 62 cm Rambouillet
Will consider frame set or complete, any color. Please reply offline with condition and price. I also have a blue 60 cm for trade or will be for sale once I find a 62. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
The non-Rivish post are like pornography, I know it when I see it. Or something like that. --mike (who has been known to go off topic...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS Spring cleaning parts
B17, seat post and moustache bars are sold. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS Spring cleaning parts
Phil-- I have the Brooks B68 you're looking for in Honey Brown with black undercarriage. Three years old, maybe 500 miles, always stored indoors, treated regularly, better than new. Pix available if you want 'em. Dave Redmon On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:27:19 PM UTC-5, Phillip Hathaway wrote: With the purchase of my new Bleriot I am selling the build parts from my previous project. The frame will be available on the iBob and rcog lists. All of these parts are nearly new. Put on my abandoned Rawland project and ridden for about 10 miles so some insertion/assembly marks but little wear. I will add actual shipping to the listed price. Dia Compe #610 centerpull brake set $100 Dia Compe 204 non aero levers with Gran Compe adjusters $25 Shimano M324 platform/clipless pedals $25 Shimano CX70 FD new in box $30 Nitto Crystal Fellow 27.2 seat post $50 Nitto Moustache 26.0mm bars $50 Paul 1-1/8 front brake hanger $30 Brooks B 17 standard in brown $65 Pictures are available here http://www.flickr.com/photos/flipvelo/sets/72157633252659827/ I'm interested in a trade for a B68 Brooks and a small trunksack for the front of my new Bleriot. Contact off list is preferred. Thanks Phil -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 55cm Rivendell Bleriot (Frame/Fork/Headset) and 650b Wheelset
I'm not in San Francisco but I can have my son-in-law pickup the the Bleriot Frame/Fork/Headset including the Front and Rear Wheels. PayPall works for me. Thank you, Rodney Lee On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:08:42 AM UTC-7, Irv wrote: Selling for a friend: - 55cm Rivendell Frame/Fork with a Tange Headset (Geometry Linkhttp://sheldonbrown.com/harris/rivendell/bleriotgeometry.pdf ) - 650b Front Wheel, Shimano Deore Hub, Velocity Twin Hollow, Shimano Skewer, picked up used from a Rivendell Garage Sale - 650b Rear Wheel, Velo Orange Grand Crux Hub, Velo Orange Diagonale Rim, Velo Orange Skewer, purchased brand new from Velo Orangehttp://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/wheelsets-rims-hubs/complete-wheels/grand-cru-tour-hub-rear-wheel-650b-130mm.html A word of note, this frame was involved in an automobile accident and there was minor damage to the seatstay (offset by a few MM). Rivendell inspected it and referred us to Cameron Falconerhttp://falconercycles.blogspot.com/ who inspected it and repaired it. Selling all of this for $500 picked up locally from San Francisco. Please contact me off list if interested or if you have any questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 700c Dynamo Wheelset, IQ Fly, Disc Compatible
Giving it another try. I really have to sell the wheelset this time since I just ordered a new non-dynamo set. Front wheel is a Salsa Delgado Cross with a Shimano DH-3D72 dynamo hub (32h), the rear wheel is a Sun Rhyno Lite with a Shimano SLX hub (36h). They're in great shape, albeit a little dirty. The light is a BM IQ Fly N Plus (the kind with the stand light, but not the sensor). The rims are black, just to get that out of the way. Both the hubs are disc brake compatible if you have a frame that does that sort of thing. Anyway, here's what they look like on my bike http://imgur.com/a/UACku. I'd even be open to making some sort of deal to include the Soma tires you see there as well. How about $250 or best offer? I'm in Seattle, but I could probably figure out a way to ship these if need be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dutch Fender Light Question
You can cut the bolt down, or use a presta valve nut as a spacer. Haven't seen one in person, but I would bet it would do the trick. On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:12:30 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote: Just picked up one of the dutch fender lights - When I went to install, realized that the screw is too long, it will rub the tire if I screw the bolt all the way snug - anyone install one of these yet? Tips for how to shorten the bolt? Am I doing something wrong? Bolt seems pretty long to me, I am guessing more people than just me would have the problem. Appreciate the help in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
The Riv universe contains a large number of individuals who buy little or
nothing from Riv, but who trawl the used Riv and Riv-ish market for
deals. I'm ok with that. I've never thought the best or most honest goal of
this list is to cheerlead for Riv or to banish those who don't regularly
buy Riv products.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:15:37 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
Agreed, the prices at Rivendell are very reasonable, I just dont know if
its Kosher for people to come here and say something like hey that Atlantis
is nice but does someone make a similar bike for less money? Just like, not
sure if I am off base here, but not sure if its cool or not if you are
looking for like a Saddlesack to come here first looking for a deal on a
used one before you see if Rivendell has one new. Again, I could be off on
that one but would hate for people to only come here looking to undercut
Rivendell by getting only used stuff.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com
javascript:wrote:
I haven't seen anything remotely like gouging in Rivendell's prices.
There may be a few items where a better discount can be found elsewhere,
but most of the stuff I want, anyway, Rivendell has a better price than
even Amazon.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:50:31 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
I dont want to speak for Joe but what I would add is if you are looking
for a used Rivendell bike because a new one is out of reach that is great
IMO, since it is getting you on a Rivendell and into the fold, so to speak.
On the other hand, if you are asking if someone makes a bike like Rivendell
for 1k cheaper, maybe not so much, maybe google that one for yourself. As
for gear, if it is sold out and you put out an apb on an item to see
someone has it that is fine but I try to get my gear new from Rivendell if
at all possible since I think that is where most small businesses make
their margins-on these so called accessories. Just my 2 cents.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06:39 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
Joe,
I suspect for a lot of folks, Riv bikes and Riv stuff remains
aspirational. If they come here for ideas, it works.
Eventually, they will have the $$$ for the dream.
Will
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little
queasy when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper posts
show up here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle
Lifestyle, but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum
dedicated
to the Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion,
of
course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7,
LyleBogart{AT}gmail.comwrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.netwrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting
excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they
have real winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding,
there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not
related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a
problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards
entropy,
I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As
I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more
than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking
everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting
discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in
sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors
open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves
by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't
think
that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they
emphasize
the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just
enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about
racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about
either.
And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion.
I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a
public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have
arrived,
everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the
doors
means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to
make that work.
The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the
case. The quality of
Re: [RBW] Dutch Fender Light Question
Put the light on, then use a Dremel with a cutting disk. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5 On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Just picked up one of the dutch fender lights - When I went to install, realized that the screw is too long, it will rub the tire if I screw the bolt all the way snug - anyone install one of these yet? Tips for how to shorten the bolt? Am I doing something wrong? Bolt seems pretty long to me, I am guessing more people than just me would have the problem. Appreciate the help in advance! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
It should be clear that this is a forum for those who enjoy some or all
aspects of what Riv contributes to the world of cycling and cycling
products. But the list isn't owned or controlled or managed in any direct
way by Riv or Riv employees. If we're all being honest, some posts will
contribute to Riv's sales, and some will detract from Riv's sales. If I
want marketing for Riv products and opinions, I go to rivbike.com. If I
want a discussion, including the occasional 2nd-hand sale, criticism, and
even discussions of similar products of brands that RBW doesn't sell, then
I come here.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:23:43 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
wrote:
The Riv universe contains a large number of individuals who buy little or
nothing from Riv, but who trawl the used Riv and Riv-ish market for
deals. I'm ok with that. I've never thought the best or most honest goal of
this list is to cheerlead for Riv or to banish those who don't regularly
buy Riv products.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:15:37 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
Agreed, the prices at Rivendell are very reasonable, I just dont know if
its Kosher for people to come here and say something like hey that Atlantis
is nice but does someone make a similar bike for less money? Just like, not
sure if I am off base here, but not sure if its cool or not if you are
looking for like a Saddlesack to come here first looking for a deal on a
used one before you see if Rivendell has one new. Again, I could be off on
that one but would hate for people to only come here looking to undercut
Rivendell by getting only used stuff.
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:
I haven't seen anything remotely like gouging in Rivendell's prices.
There may be a few items where a better discount can be found elsewhere,
but most of the stuff I want, anyway, Rivendell has a better price than
even Amazon.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:50:31 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:
I dont want to speak for Joe but what I would add is if you are looking
for a used Rivendell bike because a new one is out of reach that is great
IMO, since it is getting you on a Rivendell and into the fold, so to
speak.
On the other hand, if you are asking if someone makes a bike like
Rivendell
for 1k cheaper, maybe not so much, maybe google that one for yourself. As
for gear, if it is sold out and you put out an apb on an item to see
someone has it that is fine but I try to get my gear new from Rivendell
if
at all possible since I think that is where most small businesses make
their margins-on these so called accessories. Just my 2 cents.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:06:39 PM UTC-4, Will wrote:
Joe,
I suspect for a lot of folks, Riv bikes and Riv stuff remains
aspirational. If they come here for ideas, it works.
Eventually, they will have the $$$ for the dream.
Will
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:26:29 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
Jim can alert me if this doesn't qualify, but I always feel a little
queasy when where can I get Riv-type stuff, but, ya know, cheaper
posts
show up here. The question is fine on general lists like iBob or Bicycle
Lifestyle, but seems kinda in violation of the spirit of a forum
dedicated
to the Rivendell bicycle, and the associated bits they sell. My opinion,
of
course.
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:12:16 AM UTC-7, LyleBogart{AT}
gmail.com wrote:
Nicely stated, and thanks for all the work you do!
Cheers!
lyle
On 17 April 2013 02:08, Cyclofiend Jim cyclo...@earthlink.netwrote:
As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting
excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where
they
have real winters, things are looking good.
Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding,
there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not
related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's
a
problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards
entropy,
I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it.
This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300
members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As
I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more
than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by
thanking
everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting
discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in
sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors
open.
One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves
by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't
think
that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they
emphasize
the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any
Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:18:06 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote: The non-Rivish post are like pornography, I know it when I see it. Or something like that. ;^) Thanks mike! Yeah, that's kinda the test. There are posts which never hit the list that land squarely in that genre. Usually by a newer member asking about something how something they've seen on one of the various uber-discount sites compares to something on another site. And those newer members are also very excited by RBW offerings, but don't yet have a feel for the topics we discuss. Most of those people have become contributors to more on-topic threads. Last year, when Grant was set up at the Warming Hut down near the Golden Gate Bridge, chatting with folks about Just Ride, an older guy who hadn't ridden in a while wandered over. I think a friend had encouraged him to seek out the event. He was excited by the book and the idea of just getting out there again. His budget was around a grand for a new bike, and after chatting a bit about what he had ridden, Grant recommended a Surly, talked about getting bars up in a useful position and making sure he had large enough tires so that he didn't get beaten up. There was no hard sell about Rivendell, and it took a bit of prompting by this person to get GP to talk about the bikes he designed. He did talk about lugs, steel, what is behind his designs and a bit about the Riv philosophy. It was classy. Certainly, most of us have a Run-What-You-Brung attitude, and that's a good thing. - J / cyclofiend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
I don't understand if/how far OT my post on the fixie is, but I deeply appreciate getting advice from folks who appreciate the Rivendell level of quality and experience -- that is something I can't get easily on another list, where Riv riding philosophy is the exception rather than the norm. Also, folks here already know a fair bit of my backstory, have memory, and apply that to their responses. That is wonderful! I apologize for pushing the OT envelope. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:08:05 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they have real winters, things are looking good. Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards entropy, I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it. This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300 membersand last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors open. One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about either. And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion. I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have arrived, everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the doors means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to make that work. The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the case. The quality of discussions remain high. The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it periodically gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when you are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to state them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and well-thought-through, you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well. The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of this list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to more general lists. Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking about the items. And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live get-togethers among the members. As the photos from recent regional rides, there's a lot to cover just within the stated topic of this group. All good stuff. No... GREAT stuff. Take a new friend riding this month, and make sure they finish with a big smile. Tone is a critical issue. My view is simple: life is too short. If you can't stay positive or at least polite, it's time to put down the keyboard and take a break. We all get enough guff in our everyday existence that we don't need to add to it here. As I've said before, disagreement is expected. There's no way we will all come to the same conclusion about anything, and I think it would be a more boring world if we did. But, here, under this roof, we agree to disagree with respect for one another. To finish, I'll repeat what I said in the last full-length SOTLR (wow, was it really 2010?) - it is important as we grow to honor the relatively narrow focus of this group, even though it's tempting to have more general topics discussed here. Clearly, it's a bit of an imperfect border, but one which we've largely maintained. Letting discussions end as they creep toward more general topics, not having to have the last comment (or needing to win the argument) and, above all, maintaining the respect for one another within the group is what makes this list special. As always, thanks again for
[RBW] Re: Dutch Fender Light Question
Spacers! That will do for now. I guess I may end up just buying a dremel tool for cutting bolts too, this comes up relatively often in my bike adjusting shenanigans. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
I am personally posting less and less since the nasty emails sent to my personal email address ,it seems some people want to take comments and put words in the mouth of the writers, but there will always be those people, unfortunately. I will stick my neck out again and say if you don't own a Rivendell and never will not sure why you would be a member here at all, if the intent is to talk after all about Rivendell bikes and whatnot. I like 70's Muscle Cars but wouldn't engage in a discussion about them unless I had one or had some plan to get one, seems both futile and frustrating. I guess I don't see this as some sort of lifestyle like the Paleo, Vegan or other more life style oriented lists. I love my Bombadil, but without it my life would be pretty much the same, I know for others it is different and I think that is awesome, I just don't know where they are coming from, personally. Feel free to send nasty emails to me, I work in due diligence so its sometimes my job to deal with less than savory people. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I don't understand if/how far OT my post on the fixie is, but I deeply appreciate getting advice from folks who appreciate the Rivendell level of quality and experience -- that is something I can't get easily on another list, where Riv riding philosophy is the exception rather than the norm. Also, folks here already know a fair bit of my backstory, have memory, and apply that to their responses. That is wonderful! I apologize for pushing the OT envelope. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:08:05 AM UTC-6, Cyclofiend Jim wrote: As we make our way out of the winter, I know every one is getting excited about spring riding. Even in the parts of the world where they have real winters, things are looking good. Over the past few weeks, mostly related to enthusiasm for riding, there seems to have been a steady increase in the amount of topics not related to the focus of this group. It's not to the point where it's a problem, but given the size of this bunch and the tendency towards entropy, I thought it might be a good moment to articulate it. This group has continued to grow steadily. We're now north of 2,300 members and last month there were in excess of 2,000 posts. As I've written before, 1,000 members was a big milestone, and more than twice that is a bit mind-boggling. So, I have to start by thanking everyone who has continued to make this a positive and interesting discussion. I especially thank those who have been regular in sharing, answering and hanging out here since we threw the doors open. One of the basic underpinnings of this group is to define ourselves by what we are, rather than what we are not. As an example, I don't think that Rivendell has ever said they are anti-racing. Rather, they emphasize the things they enjoy - riding bicycles where ever they can under any conditions, camping under the stars, being comfortable - in short, just enjoying the ride. That way, you don't have to have an argument about racing vs. comfort. You can have a discussion about what is great about either. And to say it very plainly, this list is about discussion. I've mentioned before one of the ways I think about this list - as a public house where ideas are easily shared between those who have arrived, everyone is present because they want to be, and passing through the doors means that baggage is left outside. It takes the agreement of all to make that work. The wonderful thing is that by and large, that continues to be the case. The quality of discussions remain high. The slight downside is that because of the level of discourse, it periodically gets distracted. That's a very natural condition - after all, when you are with folks who have good ideas and thoughts, who manage to state them clearly and in ways that are optimistic and well-thought-through, you want to seek their opinions on other topics as well. The caution flag I'd like to raise is that the very narrowness of this list is what gives rise to that high quality. It's important to remember that if you are tagging your post OT or Off Topic, then it doesn't belong on this list. General questions are best posted to more general lists. Just by staying on topic, we're going to generate a fair amount of traffic. One of the hallmarks of this list has been a very high signal to noise ratio. It's solid information from the people using and thinking about the items. And we've gotten to know one another pretty well, generated real, live get-togethers among the members. As the photos from recent regional rides, there's a lot to cover just within the stated topic of this group.All good stuff. No... GREAT stuff. Take a new friend riding this month, and make sure they finish with a big smile. Tone is a critical issue. My view is simple: life is too short. If you can't stay
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 18:19 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: I am personally posting less and less since the nasty emails sent to my personal email address ,it seems some people want to take comments and put words in the mouth of the writers, but there will always be those people, unfortunately. I will stick my neck out again and say if you don't own a Rivendell and never will not sure why you would be a member here at all, if the intent is to talk after all about Rivendell bikes and whatnot. Some might well say questioning the motives of those who choose to join this group and participate in discussions is itself less than savory. I like 70's Muscle Cars but wouldn't engage in a discussion about them unless I had one or had some plan to get one, seems both futile and frustrating. I guess I don't see this as some sort of lifestyle like the Paleo, Vegan or other more life style oriented lists. I love my Bombadil, but without it my life would be pretty much the same, I know for others it is different and I think that is awesome, I just don't know where they are coming from, personally. Feel free to send nasty emails to me, I work in due diligence so its sometimes my job to deal with less than savory people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Right on cue. Shouldn't you have sent it to my personal email address though? On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 18:19 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: I am personally posting less and less since the nasty emails sent to my personal email address ,it seems some people want to take comments and put words in the mouth of the writers, but there will always be those people, unfortunately. I will stick my neck out again and say if you don't own a Rivendell and never will not sure why you would be a member here at all, if the intent is to talk after all about Rivendell bikes and whatnot. Some might well say questioning the motives of those who choose to join this group and participate in discussions is itself less than savory. I like 70's Muscle Cars but wouldn't engage in a discussion about them unless I had one or had some plan to get one, seems both futile and frustrating. I guess I don't see this as some sort of lifestyle like the Paleo, Vegan or other more life style oriented lists. I love my Bombadil, but without it my life would be pretty much the same, I know for others it is different and I think that is awesome, I just don't know where they are coming from, personally. Feel free to send nasty emails to me, I work in due diligence so its sometimes my job to deal with less than savory people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 18:40 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Right on cue. Shouldn't you have sent it to my personal email address though? No, I want to go on the public record. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 18:19 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: I am personally posting less and less since the nasty emails sent to my personal email address ,it seems some people want to take comments and put words in the mouth of the writers, but there will always be those people, unfortunately. I will stick my neck out again and say if you don't own a Rivendell and never will not sure why you would be a member here at all, if the intent is to talk after all about Rivendell bikes and whatnot. Some might well say questioning the motives of those who choose to join this group and participate in discussions is itself less than savory. I like 70's Muscle Cars but wouldn't engage in a discussion about them unless I had one or had some plan to get one, seems both futile and frustrating. I guess I don't see this as some sort of lifestyle like the Paleo, Vegan or other more life style oriented lists. I love my Bombadil, but without it my life would be pretty much the same, I know for others it is different and I think that is awesome, I just don't know where they are coming from, personally. Feel free to send nasty emails to me, I work in due diligence so its sometimes my job to deal with less than savory people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
unlike the other nasty ones you sent to my personal email address. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:42 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 18:40 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Right on cue. Shouldn't you have sent it to my personal email address though? No, I want to go on the public record. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 6:38 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 18:19 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: I am personally posting less and less since the nasty emails sent to my personal email address ,it seems some people want to take comments and put words in the mouth of the writers, but there will always be those people, unfortunately. I will stick my neck out again and say if you don't own a Rivendell and never will not sure why you would be a member here at all, if the intent is to talk after all about Rivendell bikes and whatnot. Some might well say questioning the motives of those who choose to join this group and participate in discussions is itself less than savory. I like 70's Muscle Cars but wouldn't engage in a discussion about them unless I had one or had some plan to get one, seems both futile and frustrating. I guess I don't see this as some sort of lifestyle like the Paleo, Vegan or other more life style oriented lists. I love my Bombadil, but without it my life would be pretty much the same, I know for others it is different and I think that is awesome, I just don't know where they are coming from, personally. Feel free to send nasty emails to me, I work in due diligence so its sometimes my job to deal with less than savory people. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 700c Dynamo Wheelset, IQ Fly, Disc Compatible
Boy, Scot, that sure is a pretty Sam! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: 700c Dynamo Wheelset, IQ Fly, Disc Compatible
Thanks Liesl! And believe it or not, the wheels and light have been sold and paid for. This list moves like lightning! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 18:44 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: unlike the other nasty ones you sent to my personal email address. The last time I sent you a private email was in Nov. 2012. Here's what I said: Oy is British as well as Yiddish. Before that, July 11, 2012, I said: No reason you couldn't put lights on a Domane, and it already comes with (disappearing) fender mounts. How much more practical does he want? It'll be light. It'll be trendy. It'll cost him $11,000, he'll be happy and you can laugh your a$$ off when you figure out the cost benefit ratio. Earlier, in March 2012 we had the following exchange, in which you accused me of bullying you: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 17:57 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Well like most online bullying that is not how it started but that is how it feels now. Last time, after which I drop this discussion. If you feel as though you are being bullied you may well be feeling that, but it is all in your imagination. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. If you believe there are 2 hand positions for drop bars, then we will indeed have to disagree. I would mostly like to just drop it since none of it is relevant to this group or the discussions here. Actually, your interpretation of a simple statement of fact based on over 50 years of using drop bars correcting your misconception regarding hand positions is entirely relevant to discussions on the list. When somebody corrects a misunderstanding with a simple statement of fact, do not assume sarcasm and do not project hostility into the discussion. There's no basis for such assumptions. Not on the RBW list. More fatherly advice is we dont all have to like each other but we shoudl all be civil. This has been a civil discussion. I'm done. Are these the emails to your personal email address that you're so incensed about? Or have you confused me with someone else? I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks you're out of line here... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
That some of us are a-holes, or occasionally perceived as such, is probably OT. On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:55:29 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 18:44 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: unlike the other nasty ones you sent to my personal email address. The last time I sent you a private email was in Nov. 2012. Here's what I said: Oy is British as well as Yiddish. Before that, July 11, 2012, I said: No reason you couldn't put lights on a Domane, and it already comes with (disappearing) fender mounts. How much more practical does he want? It'll be light. It'll be trendy. It'll cost him $11,000, he'll be happy and you can laugh your a$$ off when you figure out the cost benefit ratio. Earlier, in March 2012 we had the following exchange, in which you accused me of bullying you: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 17:57 -0400, Peter Morgano wrote: Well like most online bullying that is not how it started but that is how it feels now. Last time, after which I drop this discussion. If you feel as though you are being bullied you may well be feeling that, but it is all in your imagination. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. If you believe there are 2 hand positions for drop bars, then we will indeed have to disagree. I would mostly like to just drop it since none of it is relevant to this group or the discussions here. Actually, your interpretation of a simple statement of fact based on over 50 years of using drop bars correcting your misconception regarding hand positions is entirely relevant to discussions on the list. When somebody corrects a misunderstanding with a simple statement of fact, do not assume sarcasm and do not project hostility into the discussion. There's no basis for such assumptions. Not on the RBW list. More fatherly advice is we dont all have to like each other but we shoudl all be civil. This has been a civil discussion. I'm done. Are these the emails to your personal email address that you're so incensed about? Or have you confused me with someone else? I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks you're out of line here... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Cyclofiend Jim, I so very much appreciate your spring reminder and the thoughtful way in which you articulated it. The emphasis on the narrow focus contributing to the quality of discussion is spot on. I hope that I continue to live up to that noble standard in my posts and not err to far on the topic drift side. And thank you for all of your behind the scenes work in having this be the outstanding group that it is. 2300 members! Dang! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dutch Fender Light Question
A dremel is one of the handiest tools for those of us who monkey around with bikes and their various accessories. Cut/grind to fit. Some of our customers would be horrified if they knew the barbaric methods we use to make their bikes look good and work well. :) On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:06:45 PM UTC-5, Zack wrote: Spacers! That will do for now. I guess I may end up just buying a dremel tool for cutting bolts too, this comes up relatively often in my bike adjusting shenanigans. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
No steve, I doubt you are the only angry old man here, just the most vocal. I would think as Sullivan County natives we could come together, doubt there are many of us on this list. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: Cyclofiend Jim, I so very much appreciate your spring reminder and the thoughtful way in which you articulated it. The emphasis on the narrow focus contributing to the quality of discussion is spot on. I hope that I continue to live up to that noble standard in my posts and not err to far on the topic drift side. And thank you for all of your behind the scenes work in having this be the outstanding group that it is. 2300 members! Dang! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dutch Fender Light Question
I just delight that there are people far more capable than me at wrestling with the stubborn inanimate of the world and bending them to their will. I have deep reverence for all of you! With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: A dremel is one of the handiest tools for those of us who monkey around with bikes and their various accessories. Cut/grind to fit. Some of our customers would be horrified if they knew the barbaric methods we use to make their bikes look good and work well. :) On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 5:06:45 PM UTC-5, Zack wrote: Spacers! That will do for now. I guess I may end up just buying a dremel tool for cutting bolts too, this comes up relatively often in my bike adjusting shenanigans. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
I find the saddest irony in the most recent back-and-forth posts to this specific thread when its very topic is about tone and civility. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Good point, what is the sense of telling each other that everyone is civil when people aren't? There are a few people here who are always on the attack and try to ruin it for everyone, I know they have ruined it for me and I will be quitting this whole thing soon. I had two friends from work join this list only to quit after being picked on by certain individuals so its not like its just me. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Liesl li...@smm.org wrote: I find the saddest irony in the most recent back-and-forth posts to this specific thread when its very topic is about tone and civility. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Ignoring those who seek attention through annoying or bad behavior is a tried and true option. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Tarptent advice?
Another vote for the Spitfire. As a fellow tall guy, it has enough room (and extra) for me. I have the two man version, which actually fits two grown men (or me and my six year old and all his toys). Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Scott Henry ske...@gmail.com wrote: No experience in the tarptents, but this is the regular one-man tent that I use. http://store.eurekatent.com/spitfire-1-tent Very small, very light and easy to setup, pack and carry. Cheap too. I have about 40 nights in it over a few years and never a problem. Once was a 3 week stay and for that I'd have liked to have a bigger tent, but the size to weight issue is hard to overcome. Cheers, Scott On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all. I am currently contemplating picking up a Tarptent to fill a need for a one person bike camping tent. I currently have the hennessy hammock, which is fantastic but dependent on trees, and a big/relatively heavy/substantial 3 person tent. I want to get something lightweight that I can use when I am going somewhere that I am not sure about setting up the hammock. I am big (6'3) and don't want any part of sleeping in open air/dealing with bugs, so would need to get one of the tarptents that actually closes up in order to be able to sleep at night. Looking at the tarptent site, it's tough to determine which of their options works best for what I am trying to do, so I figured I would ask you guys. Any thoughts on this? Anyone have a tarptent that they don't use/don't like and want to get rid of? Much obliged! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out
Waterproof schmaterproof. The big story to me anyway is Brooks is coming out with a vegan hammock saddle. When I stopped eating meat years ago, I also gave up on leather products. Except for saddles. I tried a large number of the injection molded saddles out there. They were all portable torture chambers to me. Finally wound up going back to leather with Berthoud. I've read about some noble failures to make lorica hammock saddles. Brooks is doing some interesting things with modern fabric and materials. the Land's End / John O'Groats packs I recently picked up appear to be very nice. They are well designed, light, and supposedly quite water proof. Ortlieb makes them, so I am not too worried about trying them out before going on my next tour. Really hope these saddles turn out to be the real deal. Looking forward to buying my first Cambium from Rivendell. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Tarptent advice?
And yet another vote for the Spitfire. Also have the 2 and it is quite comfy for me being both almost tall and definitely wide. Borderline Riv content - purchased mine on the advice of Grant after quizzing him on some of the more expensive tents seen in photos on the site. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: Another vote for the Spitfire. As a fellow tall guy, it has enough room (and extra) for me. I have the two man version, which actually fits two grown men (or me and my six year old and all his toys). Eric Daume Dublin, OH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: [BOB] Wheelset for Ram
Thanks for this, Steve; will put this aside for future reference (and thanks to the others, too -- must keep Handspun in mind). Good to hear that Sun rims are still good buys; am still running M14As and ME14As from almost 20 years ago (in the 559 and 571 sizes). Almost bought an Alex R500 or somesuch wheelset on Craigslist today: http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/bik/3699216171.html $80 is good, but they are marginally appropriate, aesthetically, and the reviews on RBR gave them a 2.35 out of 5, with many comments about rust, breaking spokes, etc, so I passed. Might as well hold out for something decent and silver for this keeper of a bike. Am keeping both the Handspun/buy new and Build Your Own For Once, Dammit! options open. Must see what Stevie has this week in hubs and rims. On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Steve Chan sychan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:02 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram, silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular. For what it is worth, Open Pro seems to generate a lot of comments that quality has declined quite a bit in recent years, especially in comparison to other, newer rims. The Open Pro is a fairly lightweight rim (at least, the original extrusion was - not sure how heavy the extrusions are running these days). The modern shiny box section rim of comparable weight is the Pacenti PL23, which has been getting praise for its well designed channel/bean seat. Its a 23mm wide rim and provides better support for a tire of 23mm or larger. I have a pair in the garage in 650B waiting to be built up one the Rawland Stag shows up - its a pretty rim. In a shiny rim, the A23 in silver is another lightweight contender, and is basically the same width as the PL23. The H Plus Son TB14 that others have mentioned is a classic shiny box section rim, but it is on the heavier side, coming in on either side of 500g. The H Plus Son Archetype comes in a high polished finish and is a semi-aero rim lighter than the TB14, but heavier than the PL23. This rim was the darling of the professional custom wheel builder crowd in late 2012 until the latest Pacenti SL23 came out (sadly not available in a silver or polished finish). I've been looking at the Archetype for a new wheelset, but nobody in the US seems to have these in high polish finish and it costs $50 to have a box of rims shipped from H Plus Son in China. Anyone local want to split the postage on some H Plus Son rims? For what it is worth, it appears that Sun is the OEM for the nicer H Plus Son and Pacenti rims, so maybe you want to look at the main Sun offerings as well. They seem to be more highly regarded in terms of quality than the current Open Pros. http://fairwheelbikes.com/cycling-blog/products/2013-rim-roundup.html Steve -- Sow a thought, reap an action. Sow an action, reap a habit. Sow a habit, reap a character. Sow a character, reap a destiny. - Samuel Smiles -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
Amen, brother Deacon, amen. Patrick Moore, trying to follow St. Paul and suffer fools gladly in surprisingly cold, cloudy and windy ABQ, NM On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Ignoring those who seek attention through annoying or bad behavior is a tried and true option. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Ram
The bike shop in Bath, Maine that built my Sam for me did a great job building the wheels. Synergy rims, XT hubs, 36 14/15 spokes front and back, hand built by them. Their prices were surprisingly reasonable and I have had no issues going on 3 years of almost daily use. They are on the web as bikeman.com. The site doesn't look very Rivish, but it is a real shop and they treated me extremely well. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:02:55 AM UTC+3, Patrick Moore wrote: Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo: Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear) black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160 mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset. I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26). What's a fair price for this one? Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes, hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine. 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram, silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular. 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer service, price, in that order? 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell? Thanks. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone
I love Rivendell bikes and I used to own two of them. The reason I don't own any now is simply because I couldn't bear seeing them get beat up. So now I ride powder-coated, less-expansive alternatives. I still like the Rivendell philosophy and occasional buy great products from RBW. But frankly, I just don't see an issue with discussing alternatives to Riv products when someone cannot afford or is otherwise not inclined to purchase a Rivendell. Shaun Meehan On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:13 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Amen, brother Deacon, amen. Patrick Moore, trying to follow St. Paul and suffer fools gladly in surprisingly cold, cloudy and windy ABQ, NM On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.comwrote: Ignoring those who seek attention through annoying or bad behavior is a tried and true option. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com __ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!
Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone check at any of the local Recycling places? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Dutch Fender Light Question
If you are talking about the Spanninga tail light, I mounted one on my Longboards It doesn't rub my Hetres. Seems to be fine. Spacer sounds like the ticket until you can file it down or something. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
