Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone

2013-04-18 Thread Evan
A big thank-you to Jim for maintaining this list, and for his lucid call 
for civilized discussion!

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone

2013-04-18 Thread Joe Bernard
We simply disagree. I have no issue with discussions of 
Riv-philosophy-related products they don't make/sell. I *do* get a little 
uncomfortable with the who makes a cheap Sackville type stuff. As far as 
I'm concerned that's asking for the made in China alternative, which Grant 
doesn't offer because he doesn't believe in it. As someone else said, this 
type of thing can be easily Googled. YRMV.
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.
 
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 7:40:47 PM UTC-7, meehan...@gmail.com wrote:

 I love Rivendell bikes and I used to own two of them. The reason I don't 
 own any now is simply because I couldn't bear seeing them get beat up. So 
 now I ride powder-coated, less-expansive alternatives. I still like the 
 Rivendell philosophy and occasional buy great products from RBW. But 
 frankly, I just don't see an issue with discussing alternatives to Riv 
 products when someone cannot afford or is otherwise not inclined to 
 purchase a Rivendell. 

 Shaun Meehan


 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:13 PM, PATRICK MOORE bert...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Amen, brother Deacon, amen.

 Patrick Moore, trying to follow St. Paul and suffer fools gladly in 
 surprisingly cold, cloudy and windy ABQ, NM


 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Deacon Patrick 
 lamon...@mac.comjavascript:
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 Ignoring those who seek attention through annoying or bad behavior is a 
 tried and true option.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


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Re: [RBW] Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Leslie
Ditto!   lol

I added a couple, Tree Fort, Universal, Bike Wagon...



On Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:40:14 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 Question 20 made me laugh. Of the 14 retailers listed, it's easier to mark 
 the ones I've never purchased anything from (Globetrotter, Modern Bike, 
 Rose Versand)!

 Cheers,
 David



 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Matthew J matth...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Waterproof schmaterproof.  The big story to me anyway is Brooks is coming 
 out with a vegan hammock saddle.  

  
 When I stopped eating meat years ago, I also gave up on leather products. 
  Except for saddles.  I tried a large number of the injection molded 
 saddles out there.  They were all portable torture chambers to me.  Finally 
 wound up going back to leather with Berthoud. 

 I've read about some noble failures to make lorica hammock saddles. 
  Brooks is doing some interesting things with modern fabric and materials. 
  the Land's End / John O'Groats packs I recently picked up appear to be 
 very nice.  They are well designed, light, and supposedly quite water 
 proof.  Ortlieb makes them, so I am not too worried about trying them out 
 before going on my next tour.

 Really hope these saddles turn out to be the real deal.  Looking forward 
 to buying my first Cambium from Rivendell.

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[RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread IanA
This one is a good positive group:  
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/bicycletouring

And there's also Bicycle Lifestyle - which is PJW's group. Excellent.  
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/bicyclelifestyle

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:44:13 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote:

 Is there a good group for general C  V? General Camping/Touring? 
 Mechanics?

 I thought maybe people could post groups they are a part of for OT posts.

 - Ryan



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[RBW] Re: Latest and greatest HC poster art

2013-04-18 Thread Anne
Very nicely done. Love that you do these. 

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Re: [RBW] A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone

2013-04-18 Thread Ron Mc
everyone who enjoys reading old Bridgestone catalogs should get to play

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 4:23:43 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 The Riv universe contains a large number of individuals who buy little or 
 nothing from Riv, but who trawl the used Riv and Riv-ish market for 
 deals. I'm ok with that. I've never thought the best or most honest goal of 
 this list is to cheerlead for Riv or to banish those who don't regularly 
 buy Riv products.

 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 3:15:37 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 Agreed, the prices at Rivendell are very reasonable, I just dont know if 
 its Kosher for people to come here and say something like hey that Atlantis 
 is nice but does someone make a similar bike for less money? Just like, not 
 sure if I am off base here, but not sure if its cool or not if you are 
 looking for like a Saddlesack to come here first looking for a deal on a 
 used one before you see if Rivendell has one new. Again, I could be off on 
 that one but would hate for people to only come here looking to undercut 
 Rivendell by getting only used stuff. 


 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 I haven't seen anything remotely like gouging in Rivendell's prices. 
  There may be a few items where a better discount can be found elsewhere, 
 but most of the stuff I want, anyway, Rivendell has a better price than 
 even Amazon.  


 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:50:31 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 I dont want to speak for Joe but what I would add is if you are looking 
 for a used Rivendell bike because a new one is out of reach that is great 
 IMO, since it is getting you on a Rivendell and into the fold, so to 
 speak. 
 On the other hand, if you are asking if someone makes a bike like 
 Rivendell 
 for 1k cheaper, maybe not so much, maybe google that one for yourself. As 
 for gear, if it is sold out and you put out an apb on an item to see 
 someone has it  that is fine but I try to get my gear new from Rivendell 
 if 
 at all possible since I think that is where most small businesses make 
 their margins-on these so called accessories.  Just my 2 cents. 
  



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[RBW] Re-Introduction

2013-04-18 Thread William R.
Hi all. I don't post here too often. Mostly read the great Riv news and info 
posted here. But I just changed my id from Will to William R. I noticed that 
there is another Will. I used to be Nagomano but at one point somebody 
suggested that we try to use our proper names. There was already a Bill or two 
and at least one William, so I chose Will. But of course there is another Will! 
And so, with respect to all the other Bills/Wills/Williams I've gone and made 
it William R. That's what I will go as until another William R. comes along at 
which point I will add more letters from my last name! I love my blue Sam and I 
get most of my cycling info from this group. Just wanted to give everyone an 
idea of who I am and who I was and why. It's good to be a Riv owner and a 
member of this group.

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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread AndyBikeman
I was successful in registering. I missed a few radio buttons but 
discovered my error. They said they will send a confirmation email to 
validate my email.
I hope I'm selected. I've been wanting to try a Brooks saddle but alas 
funds are short for such a purpose.



On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:03:49 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 http://www.brooksengland.com/
  
 Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle.
 The Cambium.
 You can register to be a tester.


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[RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread Brian Campbell
There is also the CV section at Bike Forums.

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:27:34 AM UTC-4, IanA wrote:

 This one is a good positive group:  
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/bicycletouring

 And there's also Bicycle Lifestyle - which is PJW's group. Excellent.  
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/bicyclelifestyle

 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:44:13 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote:

 Is there a good group for general C  V? General Camping/Touring? 
 Mechanics?

 I thought maybe people could post groups they are a part of for OT posts.

 - Ryan



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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Montclair BobbyB
I'll let you all know what it's like when they send it to me :)

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:03:49 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 http://www.brooksengland.com/
  
 Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle.
 The Cambium.
 You can register to be a tester.


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Re: [RBW] Re-Introduction

2013-04-18 Thread cyclotourist
Pictures of Blue Sam taken in the wild are needed!

Cheers,
David



On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:16 AM, William R. wroma...@optonline.net wrote:

 Hi all. I don't post here too often. Mostly read the great Riv news and
 info posted here. But I just changed my id from Will to William R. I
 noticed that there is another Will. I used to be Nagomano but at one point
 somebody suggested that we try to use our proper names. There was already a
 Bill or two and at least one William, so I chose Will. But of course there
 is another Will! And so, with respect to all the other Bills/Wills/Williams
 I've gone and made it William R. That's what I will go as until another
 William R. comes along at which point I will add more letters from my last
 name! I love my blue Sam and I get most of my cycling info from this group.
 Just wanted to give everyone an idea of who I am and who I was and why.
 It's good to be a Riv owner and a member of this group.

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[RBW] Spring Cleaning For sale

2013-04-18 Thread Trevor saxton
Hello, after declaring the Hillborne the victor of the 650b bike showdown, 
I now have accumulated some gently used parts/frames which need to go all 
items include shipping to Canada or lower 48 in US, shipping anywhere else 
would be extra.

VO Ployvalent frame 54cm, headset, cable hangers, bottom braket installed 
(VO122mm)  see photos some nicks and scratches generally from mounting on 
bus rack and some bad ones from chainsuck. 

Lightly ridden though looking for $325 shipped.  

VO Triple Crank 165mm (can be used with VO and bb above if running 135mm 
rear wheel very gently used as I only rode them once and moved to a VO 
compact double $100 shipped) pr will include with the frame for $75. 

Brand New Tektro Long Reach Brakes never used come with long mounting 
bolts, perfect for a 65ob conversion - $75 shipped 

Vo Rando Bar set up with 8cm stem Shimano Brake Levers, 8sp Bard End 
shifters, wrapped in Red Tape (not my best job, mind you) not up to 
breaking down though so asking $150 shipped

Front and Rear derailleurs IRD Front Brand New never mounted and a Shmaiano 
LX rear used for 300km or so.  Asking $60 shipped for both. 

VO Crank arms, TA Specialties knock off, no chainrings, some wear on 
finish, $75 shipped or will add to frame for $50. 

Pictures attached, email me off line if interested.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/78462625@N07/sets/72157633271099669/with/8660749314/

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Re: [RBW] Re-Introduction

2013-04-18 Thread William R.


 Here you go. Hopefully this works. In the wilds of the Maryland Shore, 
 Westchester Co., New York and NYC. Currently in the process of converting 
 to Albatross upright, bar-end set up!

 


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Nh-31SQbPlE/UW_1xDZUFrI/AEM/2jcXxwbAl2o/s1600/IMG_0238.JPG


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Nl9w9T_L8YE/UW_1keTJENI/AEE/xoA2E3S-sM0/s1600/IMG_0021.JPG


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-BSCWEAuq4gY/UW_1V6QEGII/AD8/tsyQ6LwlNjU/s1600/photo.JPG



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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Waterproof sounds good on paper, but in practice that's never been a huge issue 
for me. Anyway, it'd have to be a pretty special saddle to steer me away from 
my B67!

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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Matthew J


 Waterproof sounds good on paper, but in practice that's never been a huge 
 issue for me. Anyway, it'd have to be a pretty special saddle to steer me 
 away from my B67!

 
Had me wondering too.  People have been leaving leather saddles out in the 
rain for more than 100 years now.  I suspect Brooks is promoting the 
waterproof angle to guard against what is still a significant portion of 
the market that may feel buying a vegan product is too politically correct 
for their conscience.

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[RBW] Re: Suntour is back says it's keeping it real w/ old skool ideology

2013-04-18 Thread clayton
That is exactly what I did. Works great. Thanks Jim.



On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 1:48:48 PM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 Clayton, you can use your bar end shifters and Dyna-Sys 10sp cassette if 
 you use a Shimano 9sp derailleur.

 On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 11:28:33 AM UTC-5, clayton wrote:

 Here is what I would like to see them make.  Cassette hub, 7 or 8 speed 
 WIDE ratio cassette, Bomb proof (literally) bar end index shifters with 
 friction option or disc brake levers (maybe brifters, crash proof though, 
 and sealed against crashing in a pumice dust and sand pile, don't ask) and 
 all wrapped up in a nice silver polish or black matte anodization with 
 engraving. All built for the long haul and severe service. 

 I am pretty much done with shimano. I bought their new Deore Xt dynasys 
 stuff (10 speed) and discovered it won't work with 10 speed bar end 
 shifters that no longer have a friction option). I replaced my drop bars 
 with Sycip swept bars and put on the Dynasys mountain bike shifters. I 
 promptly broke the plastic casing and bent the steel guts when I tried to 
 rotate the shifter on the bar which wasn't even that tight. My son uses X0 
 stuff and it seems to be much better made. Next time..Sorry Shimano, 
 I've been loyal, but Suntour or Sram is getting my money next time.

 On Friday, April 12, 2013 9:39:55 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:

 Forwarding from the Rando list. Interesting from the many Rivs with 
 Suntour components...

 Brian Hanson
 Seattle, Wa

 Begin forwarded message:

 *From:* Jenny Oh Hatfield plat...@gmail.com
 *Date:* April 12, 2013, 9:36:27 AM HST
 *To:* ran...@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* *[Randon] Suntour is back  says it's keeping it real w/ old 
 skool ideology*

 Junzo feels the time is right to re-enter the bicycle component 
 business.  As he puts it “the market is too race-centric;  carbon fiber, 
 electric shifting, full suspension, 11 speed, doesn’t really enhance the 
 enjoyment of cycling.  In the 1970’s and 80’s we cycled to be closer to 
 nature, for the environment, for our health, for the simple beauty of 
 cycling.”  For these reasons SunXCD will focus on touring and randonneuring 
 components which were the focus of SunTour during its heyday.

 Read more here https://stan-pun.squarespace.com/about/.

 Cheers,

 Jenny

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[RBW] Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread shawn
Has anyone used or have any knowledge of the Bright-Bike Revolution USB 
charger. I have been looking into system to go along with my SON 28 to 
charge my Iphone and camera while on tour. 
Thanks

http://www.brightbikelabs.com/products/bright-bike-revolution

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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread dailyrandonneur
I looked at the tester registration and it seems to me they are offering 
the unlikely prospect of getting a saddle in return for a lot of my 
personal data -- name, address, email, weight, etc. And I have to write a 
testimonial that I expect they'll use for marketing purposes. 

They also didn't promise one would be asked to test a saddle from what I 
can tell -- just Brooks products. I'd expect the real payoff is mail and 
email from them. There is the 10 percent discount in their store for a 
year. 

There also seems to be a strong interest in why we are not buying their 
bags and what we'd pay for them. I see from their new lineup they are 
offering panniers made by Ortlieb. 


Ed
Washington, DC





On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:03:49 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 http://www.brooksengland.com/
  
 Brooks is putting out a new waterproof saddle.
 The Cambium.
 You can register to be a tester.


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Re: [RBW] Re-Introduction

2013-04-18 Thread Eric Platt
Very nice.  Of course I'm biased.  Like the look of your build.

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[RBW] Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I have experience with the Supernova Plug. The iPhone has specific requirements 
to how the charger ramps up to the required 5V. In practice this means that you 
have to consistently be moving pretty fast to get an effective charge. I'd 
suggest that this may be a decent plan if you can consistently ride, say, 16 
mph without slowing down. If you drop down to 12-13 mph or slower, the charge 
will stop, and the battery may even drain (at least it seems that way).

My advice is to look at products from New Trent. I have the big 12000 mAh 
battery pack, and it's awesome.

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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Matthew J
There also seems to be a strong interest in why we are not buying their 
bags and what we'd pay for them. I see from their new lineup they are 
offering panniers made by Ortlieb. 

Yes they are.  very nice as well.  The material is different than anything 
from Ortlieb though.  Lighter and IMO more attractive.  Supposedly as 
waterproof.  Cannot say whether more or as durable.

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[RBW] New Soma San Marcos owner and pictures

2013-04-18 Thread Fai Mao
Greetings

After a 5 week delay to get most of the parts the San Marcos is on the road.

I was looking for a less slow bike than the Mongoose grocery bike and the 
Sam Hillborne is in Hong Kong with the family. When this contract is up in 
18 months I'll take the Soma back with me.

This is not a very retro build. 

Frame and Fork: Soma San Marcos 54 CM

Components
Headset: Campagnolo Record
Seat Post: Generic 
Saddle: Selle San Marco Regal
Stem: Dirt Drop 80 CM
Shifters: Campagnolo Veloce Flat bar 10/speed
Bars: Nitto flat  straight I do not know the number
Crank: Centaur compact 170-50/34
Cassette: Camagnolo 12-30 10/speed
Derailleurs: Campagnolo Veloce medium cage rear QS front
Chain KMC 10 speed
Brakes Tektro long reach
Wheels Campagnolo: Vento Reaction CX
Tires: Continental Gator Skins 700X28 

The bike weighs in at just over 22 pounds 
At this point the only thing I'd change is to get a Campy triple up front. 
I have a very bad knee and need a bit lower gears

Notes: 
1. The photos show a temporary crank that was installed until I got the 
Campy one in
2. The tires have also been replace with the 700X28's

I am an awful photographer so excuse the poor pictures

http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Phil_hk/slideshow/Bicycle/Soma


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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Joe Bernard
I think the waterproof angle is pushback against the impression amongst 
many cyclists that owning a leather Brooks saddle is an issue in inclement 
weather. Which is hilarious in light of the fact the product originates in *
England.* I suspect they are equally bewildered by this marketing problem.

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:06:13 AM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote:

 There also seems to be a strong interest in why we are not buying their 
 bags and what we'd pay for them. I see from their new lineup they are 
 offering panniers made by Ortlieb. 

 Yes they are.  very nice as well.  The material is different than anything 
 from Ortlieb though.  Lighter and IMO more attractive.  Supposedly as 
 waterproof.  Cannot say whether more or as durable.


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[RBW] Re: 2 day Delaware Water Gap Ride

2013-04-18 Thread Norman


On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:42:59 PM UTC-4, BenG wrote:

 So beautiful.  I enjoyed this very much, thank you!
  

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[RBW] Re: 2 day Delaware Water Gap Ride

2013-04-18 Thread Norman
9 of 11 riders have posted 366 photos of bikes and riders in the wild.  I 
just want to say that it was a great group and a great 2 day ride and now, 
4 days later I'm still filled with great feelings from it. Every part of 
the country should have a Bobby Birmingham who has the interest and ability 
to put together something like this. Thanks Bobby.

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:57:33 AM UTC-4, Norman wrote:



 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 8:42:59 PM UTC-4, BenG wrote:

 So beautiful.  I enjoyed this very much, thank you!
  


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[RBW] Re: 2 day Delaware Water Gap Ride

2013-04-18 Thread jpp
Sorry if I missed it on a previous posts, but do you have a map of the 
route anywhere?  I used to live in Jersey and would frequent the water gap 
and am interested in seeing your route.

On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 10:28:44 AM UTC-4, Pudge wrote:

  Norm Rosenblum suggested I post a link to the Flickr Group where 
 everyone is posting their pics of the Delaware Water Gap Adventure Ride, 
 which Bobby Birmingham organized, and Joan Oppel so succinctly summarized 
 in her ride report yesterday.  Here it is:  
 http://www.flickr.com/groups/2169588@N24/  As Norm noted, it’s probably 
 the most documented 2 day ride in the history of biking!;-) 
  
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[RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread pb
I have no idea what CV means.  Yes, I googled.  The results all referred 
to CV, without a clear definition.
 
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[RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread Ron Mc
Aren't we the only Friction Shifting in an Indexing World group?  

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Re: [RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread Peter Morgano
Classic and vintage, home of the retro grouch, Haha.
On Apr 18, 2013 12:23 PM, pb pbridge...@aol.com wrote:

 I have no idea what CV means.  Yes, I googled.  The results all
 referred to CV, without a clear definition.

 pb

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[RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread PeterG
PB...ditto for me...no idea what that meansi also googled..zero

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:23:34 AM UTC-7, pb wrote:

 I have no idea what CV means.  Yes, I googled.  The results all 
 referred to CV, without a clear definition.
  
 pb


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Re: [RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread Lyle Bogart
Aren't we the only Friction Shifting in an Indexing World group? and a
fine group to belong to, I'd say!


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 Aren't we the only Friction Shifting in an Indexing World group?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread PeterG
Hopefully karma will prevail..

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:29:39 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 A: Tweakers

 Cheers,
 David



 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:28 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 thil...@gmail.com javascript: wrote:

 Weird.


 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:21:00 PM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with 
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone 
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**eby/bik/3749459611.htmlhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html


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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Ron Mc
I believe this will probably be the same material as the Selle Titanico 
laminate.  I would like to try one

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wrote:

 Waterproof sounds good on paper, but in practice that's never been a huge 
 issue for me. Anyway, it'd have to be a pretty special saddle to steer me 
 away from my B67!

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RE: [RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone

2013-04-18 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
Philip, you really have to ride it.  It's special.

-Original Message-
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on Tone

Agreed. Hey Liesl! Tell me more about your Appaloosa experience. I have a 
desire to drive over to Rivendell and try out the prototype, but don't think 
it's my kind of bike. What do you think?

Philip
www.biketinker.com

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[RBW] Re: Re-Introduction

2013-04-18 Thread Michael


 Brifters are cool. So convenient!
 Nice bike.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

2013-04-18 Thread Kellie Stapleton
Whatever happened to the pins?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

2013-04-18 Thread jinxed
They are due today or tomorrow actually!! I am building a store and will 
post a link when it's ready.

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:48:24 AM UTC-6, Kellie Stapleton wrote:

 Whatever happened to the pins?

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[RBW] Re: Re-Introduction

2013-04-18 Thread William R.
I agree the brifters were fun and cool. I had shimano sti and campy ergo on 
bikes in times past. Wanted to try the sram stuff. Ultimately I decided to 
go back to downtube friction via Paddy-the-Peddlers adapter. Now soon to go 
on the ends of Alba's. It's all good fun. I guess I am one of those people 
that switches things around a lot! Ha ha: every time I do though I am 
thinking that this is the way it will be forever... Right... I'm fairly 
certain now after going back and forth a couple of times that I want to be 
all friction all the time. I've gotten very comfortable with it and I enjoy 
the extra movement that it promotes. So now it's like this:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L3yFRATbkRw/UXArf28i6lI/AEc/x40A8SCAMfs/s1600/SamuelHillborne.jpg


On Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:35:33 PM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 Brifters are cool. So convenient!
 Nice bike.



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[RBW] Re: A Mini-State O' The List Report - Topic Drift and a Note on Tone

2013-04-18 Thread William
Thanks Jim for all you do.  As a poster that sometimes says too much or 
sometimes says the wrong thing in the wrong way, I've been more diligent in 
asking myself right before hitting Post the following two questions:

1.  Will the board be any better off if I hit the Post button?  Even if 
it's just a tiny bit better, that's good
2.  Will the board be any worse off if I hit the Discard button instead?  

Of the posts I type, I end up hitting the Discard button maybe 30% of the 
time.  I've regretted posting things in the past.  I've never regretted 
discarding a post.  




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[RBW] Re: Re-Introduction

2013-04-18 Thread William
I got the first William I guess.  It is my first name but nobody calls me 
William.  I probably should have changed it early on to Bill, or Bill L, or 
Bubba, but by the time I thought of doing that, I felt like I already had a 
personna (a brand?).  Turns out that Manny now calls me 'Will', because he 
now associates my face with this board.  

At any rate, William R. that is a really great looking Sam, and welcome  :)

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:16:27 AM UTC-7, William R. wrote:

 Hi all. I don't post here too often. Mostly read the great Riv news and 
 info posted here. But I just changed my id from Will to William R. I 
 noticed that there is another Will. I used to be Nagomano but at one point 
 somebody suggested that we try to use our proper names. There was already a 
 Bill or two and at least one William, so I chose Will. But of course there 
 is another Will! And so, with respect to all the other Bills/Wills/Williams 
 I've gone and made it William R. That's what I will go as until another 
 William R. comes along at which point I will add more letters from my last 
 name! I love my blue Sam and I get most of my cycling info from this group. 
 Just wanted to give everyone an idea of who I am and who I was and why. 
 It's good to be a Riv owner and a member of this group.

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RE: [RBW] Re: Re-Introduction

2013-04-18 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
All of those names are better than the ones that routinely get applied to me... 
 ;-)

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Re-Introduction

I got the first William I guess.  It is my first name but nobody calls me 
William.  I probably should have changed it early on to Bill, or Bill L, or 
Bubba, but by the time I thought of doing that, I felt like I already had a 
personna (a brand?).  Turns out that Manny now calls me 'Will', because he now 
associates my face with this board.

At any rate, William R. that is a really great looking Sam, and welcome  :)

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:16:27 AM UTC-7, William R. wrote:
Hi all. I don't post here too often. Mostly read the great Riv news and info 
posted here. But I just changed my id from Will to William R. I noticed that 
there is another Will. I used to be Nagomano but at one point somebody 
suggested that we try to use our proper names. There was already a Bill or two 
and at least one William, so I chose Will. But of course there is another Will! 
And so, with respect to all the other Bills/Wills/Williams I've gone and made 
it William R. That's what I will go as until another William R. comes along at 
which point I will add more letters from my last name! I love my blue Sam and I 
get most of my cycling info from this group. Just wanted to give everyone an 
idea of who I am and who I was and why. It's good to be a Riv owner and a 
member of this group.
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[RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread RJM
They seem to hate on Rivs though. 
 

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:53:13 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:

 There is also the CV section at Bike Forums.

 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:27:34 AM UTC-4, IanA wrote: 

 This one is a good positive group:  
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/bicycletouring

 And there's also Bicycle Lifestyle - which is PJW's group. Excellent.  
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/bicyclelifestyle
  
 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 11:44:13 AM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote: 

 Is there a good group for general C  V? General Camping/Touring? 
 Mechanics? 

 I thought maybe people could post groups they are a part of for OT posts.

 - Ryan



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Re: [RBW] Re: The last OT Post | Off Topic Group Recommendations

2013-04-18 Thread Peter Morgano
Yeah, its a pretty gruff group in general but I don't think they bill
themselves as otherwise. There are alot of comments about how they got a
Raleigh Competition for $50 which is every bit as good as a Rambouillet.,
but opinions are like, well never mind.  A lot of them do have good
knowledge on older bikes and their intricacies, you just have to get
through the attitude. It cant be that bad though, the late great Sheldon
Brown used to post there often.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:15 PM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote:

 They seem to hate on Rivs though.


 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 7:53:13 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:

 There is also the CV section at Bike Forums.

 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:27:34 AM UTC-4, IanA wrote:

 This one is a good positive group:  https://groups.google.com/**
 forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/**bicycletouringhttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!forum/bicycletouring

 And there's also Bicycle Lifestyle - which is PJW's group. Excellent.
 https://groups.google.com/**forum/?fromgroups#!forum/**bicyclelifestylehttps://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/bicyclelifestyle

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 Is there a good group for general C  V? General Camping/Touring?
 Mechanics?

 I thought maybe people could post groups they are a part of for OT
 posts.

 - Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread rcnute
Hobbits.

Ryan

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with 
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone 
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html




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[RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread grant
We still have the gifted PEAKSRACK (dot-com?)--and a smaller one. Maybe 
recyclers who fig'd the powder coating would be a drag. Maybe also, it has 
occurred, some kind of retaliation for Jenny's role in the attempted theft 
last month or two ago---she got driver's license, and they got the guy, 
and..I dunno. On we go, tho...frying some huge fish right about now 
(apologies to vegarians, if any of you remember this).

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with 
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone 
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html




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[RBW] Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Minh
As Jim points out you have to do your homework with these.  Some devices have a 
specific voltage profile and will refuse to charge if it's not met when you 
plug it in.  For any of them try to confirm the limitations, some of these get 
around it by having a small battery as part of the system and the dynamo 
actually charges the battery, but even with these you sometimes have 
limitations (like no lights when the battery is charging, or no charging when 
lights are on). 

I carry a small supplemental battery pack, I guess you could use the dynamo to 
charge your supplemental battery, but you still may have the lighting 
constraints.  

It's a good idea on,paper but I've yet to see a really elegant solution 
implemented, even the newer ones have some limited. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread Eric Norris
I'm surprised that nobody has figured this out yet. The thief was obviously 
someone who felt they had to take a stand.

--Eric N
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:00 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hobbits.
 
 Ryan
 
 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
 
 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with 
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone 
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread Lee Chae
Thanks, Eric. I've been racking my brains over this one.

Regards,
Lee
SF, CA


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 I'm surprised that nobody has figured this out yet. The thief was
 obviously someone who felt they had to take a stand.

 --Eric N
 www.CampyOnly.com
 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:00 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hobbits.

 Ryan

 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**eby/bik/3749459611.htmlhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html


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Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread Lee
Thanks, Eric. I've been racking my brains over this one.

Regards,
Lee
SF, CA

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 12:06:40 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

 I'm surprised that nobody has figured this out yet. The thief was 
 obviously someone who felt they had to take a stand.

 --Eric N
 www.CampyOnly.com
 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:00 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Hobbits.

 Ryan

 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with 
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone 
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html


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Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread Eric
Where I'm from scrap metal thefts are a HUGE problem! 

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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Garth

It's Not leather everyone .lol.   Natural rubber and cotton. 

So if you're associating it with Leather  don't !

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread Bruce Herbitter
probably sold for a few dollars as steel scrap.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 2:21 PM, Lee Chae leec...@stanford.edu wrote:

 Thanks, Eric. I've been racking my brains over this one.

 Regards,
 Lee
 SF, CA


 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 I'm surprised that nobody has figured this out yet. The thief was
 obviously someone who felt they had to take a stand.

 --Eric N
 www.CampyOnly.com
 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Apr 18, 2013, at 12:00 PM, rcnute rcn...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hobbits.

 Ryan

 On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/**eby/bik/3749459611.htmlhttp://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html


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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Ian -- Thanks for this. I remain unsure about selling the Sun Rhino wheels
and from this agree that it's probably prudent to keep them -- at least,
keep them as long as I have the Fargo. I was sorta hoping to do a
whole/part trade ...

Strategy for now: keep riding the borrowed rims as long as I can whileI
keep my eye out for a good deal on a used wheelset. There's a local bike
swap this Saturday -- damn, and I have volunteered for the cleanup at
church. We'll have to see which waits ...

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ian A attew...@gmail.com wrote:

 IMO: -

 Dynamo hub wheelset will be an easier sell, due to the popularity of LED
 lights. As an example the Avenir lights on Amazon are a killer deal.  The
 tires probably have some life left.  Probably, a wheelset like this new
 would cost approx $400.00 (maybe a little more, but if you look at
 Handspun's prices for similar stuff (Mavic A319 etc). Rotor would cost  a
 few more bucks. The tires are worth something too.

 On the local CL (no shipping on top), somewhere around $225?  That could
 be a pretty good deal for someone.  Probably worth more to just keep the
 wheels, considering what you must have invested in them.


 On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02:55 PM UTC-6, bertin753 wrote:

 Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo:
 Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear)
 black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160
 mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up
 with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined
 to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two
 pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as
 they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.

 I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26). What's a
 fair price for this one?

 Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have
 sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes,
 hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could
 respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine.

 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other
 rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram,
 silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and
 they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero
 profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to
 hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they
 are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer
 service, price, in that order?
 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?

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[RBW] Re: Latest and greatest HC poster art

2013-04-18 Thread Andrew Drummond

I got mine the other day - it's at the frame shop now. Beautiful! And 
better yet, it made my daughter (9 years old) want to go bike camping this 
summer. Wa will, as soon as her bike is done.

Andrew

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Re: [RBW] New Soma San Marcos owner and pictures

2013-04-18 Thread Joe Hogg
On 04/17/2013 10:30 PM, Fai Mao wrote:
 Greetings

 After a 5 week delay to get most of the parts the San Marcos is on the
 road.

 I was looking for a less slow bike than the Mongoose grocery bike and
 the Sam Hillborne is in Hong Kong with the family. When this contract
 is up in 18 months I'll take the Soma back with me.

 This is not a very retro build.

 Frame and Fork: Soma San Marcos 54 CM

 Components
 Headset: Campagnolo Record
 Seat Post: Generic
 Saddle: Selle San Marco Regal
 Stem: Dirt Drop 80 CM
 Shifters: Campagnolo Veloce Flat bar 10/speed
 Bars: Nitto flat  straight I do not know the number
 Crank: Centaur compact 170-50/34
 Cassette: Camagnolo 12-30 10/speed
 Derailleurs: Campagnolo Veloce medium cage rear QS front
 Chain KMC 10 speed
 Brakes Tektro long reach
 Wheels Campagnolo: Vento Reaction CX
 Tires: Continental Gator Skins 700X28

 The bike weighs in at just over 22 pounds
 At this point the only thing I'd change is to get a Campy triple up
 front. I have a very bad knee and need a bit lower gears

 Notes:
 1. The photos show a temporary crank that was installed until I got
 the Campy one in
 2. The tires have also been replace with the 700X28's

 I am an awful photographer so excuse the poor pictures

 http://s10.photobucket.com/user/Phil_hk/slideshow/Bicycle/Soma


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Hello Fai,

Your pictures look great and the build looks good. Please share with us
any impressions of the ride and handling. I'm interested in the San Marcos.

Thanks,

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Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

2013-04-18 Thread Zoraster
Looking forward to it! Thanks

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:19:05 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:

 They are due today or tomorrow actually!! I am building a store and will 
 post a link when it's ready.

 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:48:24 AM UTC-6, Kellie Stapleton wrote:

 Whatever happened to the pins?



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[RBW] FS/FT Baggins Little Joe; Ortlieb Classic Rollers

2013-04-18 Thread Julian
Hello, 

I have a Baggins Little Joe in very good condition that I'd like to sell 
for $75 + $10 shipping to CONUS. 

I also have two sets of Ortlieb Classic Roller Panniers that I would like 
to sell or trade. I have one set of Front and one set of Back in 
Yellow/Black, both sets in very good condition. 

I would trade for Red/Black, Grey/Black, or Black/Black of the same model. 

I would also sell these for $90 for the front rollers and $110 for the back 
rollers + $10 shipping for each set to CONUS. 

Should you buy more than one item the shipping is $10 total. 

Photos can be seen at http://flic.kr/s/aHsjEL4qDg

Paypal preferred. 

Please reply off list. 

Thanks, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL


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[RBW] Re: Anyone gone to all upright bars - Albatross, Bosco, etc?

2013-04-18 Thread David Bundrick
I have albatross bars on both of my bikes - a Betty Foy and a 1978 Schwinn 
Super Le Tour, and have used them on bikes no longer with me. I have ridden 
1,200 km brevets with them, including PBP. I came to the realization that I 
rarely, if ever, used the drops or hooks anymore and could have sawed the 
bars off and never missed them. Of course, I used drops when I was racing, 
but that was long ago and entirely different riding. It pains me to see 
recreational riders on racing bikes with drop bars too low, their hands on 
the tops and elbows locked. For me upright bars are far more practical.

On Monday, April 15, 2013 1:36:14 PM UTC-4, markt...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've just recently ordered a new single top tube Sam that Jim Thill will 
 be helping me to assemble. I noticed that all of Grant P's bikes are shown 
 with upright bars on the staff bikes page of the Riv website. Have any of 
 the rest of you gone all upright. Any limits for how far you've found an 
 albatross or bosco bar to be comfortable?
 Thanks,
 Mark


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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Matthew J
I don't think anyone is associating the new saddle with leather.  Rather 
the point is the big deal about the saddle is that it has no leather, not 
that this fact somehow makes it more weather proof than leather.
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:28:31 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: 


 It's Not leather everyone .lol.   Natural rubber and cotton. 

 So if you're associating it with Leather  don't !


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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest and greatest HC poster art

2013-04-18 Thread Seth Vidal
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Andrew Drummond 
andrew.d.drumm...@gmail.com wrote:


 I got mine the other day - it's at the frame shop now. Beautiful! And
 better yet, it made my daughter (9 years old) want to go bike camping this
 summer. Wa will, as soon as her bike is done.



Jim,

This quote right here ^^

you should put that on your website  :)

beautiful poster.
-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

2013-04-18 Thread Dale Click
Thanks for doing this.  I can't wait to see them!

Cheers,

Rusty
click...@gmail.com



On Apr 18, 2013, at 2:54 PM, Zoraster mindham...@gmail.com wrote:

 Looking forward to it! Thanks
 
 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:19:05 PM UTC-4, jinxed wrote:
 They are due today or tomorrow actually!! I am building a store and will post 
 a link when it's ready.
 
 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 10:48:24 AM UTC-6, Kellie Stapleton wrote:
 Whatever happened to the pins?
 
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[RBW] Re: Latest and greatest HC poster art

2013-04-18 Thread Scot Brooks
Super cool, Jim! I've got the Ride Gravel one and the quality is lovely. 
I'll need to get my hands on one of these asap. Too bad I just splurged on 
a new wheelset :)

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[RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

2013-04-18 Thread William
I keep looking at the lug tree on the BLUG.  It's a new mystery bike, and 
it's too big for me.  I'll speculate...

I think it's a new super big stout bike to augment the Atlantis, replacing 
the Bombadil in big sizes.  Maybe it will be a diagatube large size 
Atlantis.  

I hope that too big for you is a trick.  The real meaning is that the 
Clem Smith Jr is too big for you (*to ride by yourself) *and that it's a 
tandem.  

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[RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

2013-04-18 Thread Minh
Hmmm new redwood?

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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky

2013-04-18 Thread Ryan
Your Sam and SimpleOne are very handsome bikes...I like the muted green and 
and that almost slate  blue. For the SimpleOne...what brake levers are you 
using? I thought Shimano RX100 but now I'm thinking Dia-Compe or they 
almost look like TRP's with the QR button on the outside when I blow up the 
image. I think I spy an ENO freewheel, too...it's that telltale red. 
 
2 pounds of mussels makes a great dinner for 2 people in a seasoned broth 
with white wine and seasoning and a good crusty loaf of bread to sop up the 
juicesheaven in a bowl:)
On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 6:06:38 AM UTC-5, EricP wrote:

  Took yesterday off work in part to get out on the SimpleOne.  Was only 
 the second time this year.  Weather and cold have kept me on geared bikes 
 too much.  Rode over to Jim Thil's shop where he surprised me with a cool 
 tool (thanks!)  Happened across a friend and we rode together for a while 
 until I stopped at a seafood place to pick up a couple pounds of mussels 
 for supper.  Ended up with 26 miles and a full belly in the evening.
  
 Pic to prove it happened - 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/14126468@N05/8657883100/in/photostream

  
  Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


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RE: [RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

2013-04-18 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
From a 12/20/12 post to this list from Grant:

On the mid-back burner is a model of limited appeal because it'll come only in 
a 67cm with a 6-deg upsloping TT---a Sammish bike but a hair beefier and in a 
few ways NOT a Sam. Working name, which I won't have the cajones to go thru 
with, is the Clem Smith Jr. (the  Smitty?)  At this stage of development, 
that is what I'm calling it. It's like a superbeefy Sam for the tall and beefy 
hillbilly who doesn't sell enough pelts and gin and baby pigs to afford a 
custom. But it will be a super neat bike---with differences that make sense in 
a hugey, and still with the normal stuff we gotta have in all our bikes. Yes, 
lugs, etc.
It may be a year and a half out. We aren't sure where it makes sense to make 
it---Taiwan or WF or Nobi---cost varies, and there are mins to consider and 
cash flow and timing and all the fun stuff that rule our world here---but 
BIKEWISE, it'll be neat.  This is a roadish bike, but here that means any 
road, even road that aren't country maintained.


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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

I keep looking at the lug tree on the BLUG.  It's a new mystery bike, and it's 
too big for me.  I'll speculate...

I think it's a new super big stout bike to augment the Atlantis, replacing the 
Bombadil in big sizes.  Maybe it will be a diagatube large size Atlantis.

I hope that too big for you is a trick.  The real meaning is that the Clem 
Smith Jr is too big for you (to ride by yourself) and that it's a tandem.
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[RBW] New bikes / frames in RBW specials

2013-04-18 Thread Dan McNamara
That Ram blue Betty Foy is beautiful. Looking forward to seeing some pics
of it in the
field.

Dan

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Re: [RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

2013-04-18 Thread William
Ha, OK.  End of speculation.  Way to end my fun with actual knowledge.  

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:50:02 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:

  From a 12/20/12 post to this list from Grant:  

  

 “On the mid-back burner is a model of limited appeal because it'll come 
 only in a 67cm with a 6-deg upsloping TT---a Sammish bike but a hair 
 beefier and in a few ways NOT a Sam. Working name, which I won't have the 
 cajones to go thru with, is the Clem Smith Jr. (the  Smitty?)  At this 
 stage of development, that is what I'm calling it. It's like a superbeefy 
 Sam for the tall and beefy hillbilly who doesn't sell enough pelts and gin 
 and baby pigs to afford a custom. But it will be a super neat bike---with 
 differences that make sense in a hugey, and still with the normal stuff we 
 gotta have in all our bikes. Yes, lugs, etc.
 It may be a year and a half out. We aren't sure where it makes sense to 
 make it---Taiwan or WF or Nobi---cost varies, and there are mins to 
 consider and cash flow and timing and all the fun stuff that rule our world 
 here---but BIKEWISE, it'll be neat.  This is a roadish bike, but here 
 that means any road, even road that aren't country maintained.

   

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 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *William
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 *Subject:* [RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

  

 I keep looking at the lug tree on the BLUG.  It's a new mystery bike, and 
 it's too big for me.  I'll speculate...
  
  
  
 I think it's a new super big stout bike to augment the Atlantis, replacing 
 the Bombadil in big sizes.  Maybe it will be a diagatube large size 
 Atlantis.  
  
  
  
 I hope that too big for you is a trick.  The real meaning is that the 
 Clem Smith Jr is too big for you (*to ride by yourself) *and that it's 
 a tandem.  
  
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RE: [RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

2013-04-18 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
But it appears to be designed expressly for YOU, Bill - by Grant's own 
admission, it's for the tall and beefy hillbubba.

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Ha, OK.  End of speculation.  Way to end my fun with actual knowledge.

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 1:50:02 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
From a 12/20/12 post to this list from Grant:

On the mid-back burner is a model of limited appeal because it'll come only in 
a 67cm with a 6-deg upsloping TT---a Sammish bike but a hair beefier and in a 
few ways NOT a Sam. Working name, which I won't have the cajones to go thru 
with, is the Clem Smith Jr. (the  Smitty?)  At this stage of development, 
that is what I'm calling it. It's like a superbeefy Sam for the tall and beefy 
hillbilly who doesn't sell enough pelts and gin and baby pigs to afford a 
custom. But it will be a super neat bike---with differences that make sense in 
a hugey, and still with the normal stuff we gotta have in all our bikes. Yes, 
lugs, etc.
It may be a year and a half out. We aren't sure where it makes sense to make 
it---Taiwan or WF or Nobi---cost varies, and there are mins to consider and 
cash flow and timing and all the fun stuff that rule our world here---but 
BIKEWISE, it'll be neat.  This is a roadish bike, but here that means any 
road, even road that aren't country maintained.

From: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: 
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Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:29 PM
To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:
Subject: [RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

I keep looking at the lug tree on the BLUG.  It's a new mystery bike, and it's 
too big for me.  I'll speculate...

I think it's a new super big stout bike to augment the Atlantis, replacing the 
Bombadil in big sizes.  Maybe it will be a diagatube large size Atlantis.

I hope that too big for you is a trick.  The real meaning is that the Clem 
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Re: [RBW] Clem Smith Junior speculation

2013-04-18 Thread Tom Harrop
You've got me all excited... I noticed a new big bike was mentioned in the 
lug video, but I hadn't thought about what type of bike it would be. I 
would be love a large folks' Sam Hillborne. I'm already considering a 64 cm 
as a mountain bike but a 67 would seal it.

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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky

2013-04-18 Thread Liesl
Hey Eric, Lookin' good on the Mighty Mississippi!  Especially when we're 
getting gloppy oatmeal snow only two days later.  Sheesh!  How are you 
liking the Simple1?

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Tom Harrop
I am also skeptical about dymano-powered iPhone charging. iPhones are not 
only picky, as Jim and Minh have mentioned, but they may get pickier over 
time. The Busch und Müller e-Werk + cache battery combo was supposed to 
charge iPhones (which it did at first) but Apple disabled it with a 
software update. Of course that doesn't matter if whatever you use charges 
your other device(s), e.g. camera or GPS, and charging the iPhone is not 
essential.

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Re: [RBW] Hey Liesl! Tell me more about your Appaloosa experience.

2013-04-18 Thread Dan McNamara
To followup on Liesl's comments. I have ridden 3 different sizes of the
Appaloosa and it is a great feeling, do anything bike. Grant put me on the
700c version earlier this week and it is a super stable comfortable ride.
But it does not feel sluggish at all.

Happened to be at RBW when Liesl had come in from her first ride on the
bike. Grant was a little skeptical about sizing so I am glad to hear that
the 26 is in the works.

Still hoping that it moves to a production frame at some point. Soon!

Dan

-Marin




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 Hey Philip (and others interested in the Appaloosa/long-bike)!  My
 Appaloosa experience has not gotten larger since my trip to Riv but I sure
 have been thinking about it.  I'm pretty excited about it being a
 do-anything-go-anywhere bike.  This is not only about my own experience but
 also about watching Keven on his Appaloosa in the foothills behind RivHQ.
 I've attached some photos here of me (imagine that I look far more
 fantastic in real life) on the prototype as comfy as can be.

 I think the name 'Appaloosa' is one of the best names ever because it
 captures the bike's essence.  I have bosco's on my protobleriot and just
 the other day I had the feeling of being on a horse; it was so odd, it just
 came to me.  So with the bike to match the bars, it will be even more so.
 So I love love love the name.

 Current spec's:

 26 wheels
 canti brakes—hopefully Pauls
 clearance for 55mm tires and fenders
 bullmoose boscos (of course!)
 WWII Khahki Green
 lots of braze-ons for racks

 might come in the fall! I'd like to go out to Riv and be there for the
 build to dial it in and to have the story.  It's something so very special
 that I want to be there at all the essential parts of it.

 So that's the quasi-update.  As others have said, you gotta ride one.  it
 will make you smile.

 Liesl

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Re: [RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Peter Morgano
If was going to be out that long on a regular basis I would maybe switch
phones to one that can swap batteries in and out, there are a variety out
there just as good as an Iphone that have such a feature. My dad is away
from power for a long time and has the GS3 and 2 batteries, they do come in
handy and take up little space.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am also skeptical about dymano-powered iPhone charging. iPhones are not
 only picky, as Jim and Minh have mentioned, but they may get pickier over
 time. The Busch und Müller e-Werk + cache battery combo was supposed to
 charge iPhones (which it did at first) but Apple disabled it with a
 software update. Of course that doesn't matter if whatever you use charges
 your other device(s), e.g. camera or GPS, and charging the iPhone is not
 essential.

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread shawn


Jim,

The New Trent certainly looks like a very good solution. The manufacture of 
Bike Revolution claims that “At only 9 MPH (14.4 km/h), charging is a fast 
as a wall powered charger.” The problem is I know very little about the 
charging requirements of my devices or electronics in general. Until I 
learn more, I think I might just go with something like the New Trent for 
my GAP CO tour next month. 

Thanks
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:05:27 AM UTC-4, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 I have experience with the Supernova Plug. The iPhone has specific 
 requirements to how the charger ramps up to the required 5V. In practice 
 this means that you have to consistently be moving pretty fast to get an 
 effective charge. I'd suggest that this may be a decent plan if you can 
 consistently ride, say, 16 mph without slowing down. If you drop down to 
 12-13 mph or slower, the charge will stop, and the battery may even drain 
 (at least it seems that way).

 My advice is to look at products from New Trent. I have the big 12000 mAh 
 battery pack, and it's awesome.


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[RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
I use a solar charger when on tour for my 
iPhone. http://www.solio.com/chargers/

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:53:08 AM UTC-6, shawn wrote:

 Has anyone used or have any knowledge of the Bright-Bike Revolution USB 
 charger. I have been looking into system to go along with my SON 28 to 
 charge my Iphone and camera while on tour. 
 Thanks

 http://www.brightbikelabs.com/products/bright-bike-revolution


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[RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Kelly
First off it's not the charger that will or won't charge an iPhone.  If you 
plugged it in at speed you would be alright.  Just never stop or you will 
have to unplug and plug it back in once  back to speed.
I've been using the e-werk with cache battery.   I have the latest greatest 
IOS on an iphone 5 and it worked flawlessly last week on tour.   Once 
again if your cache battery is not charged or not there the minute you stop 
the i-phone yells hey this is an unauthorized charging system or something. 
 
I've used this through the last three iPhones with many levels of IOS with 
no issues at all.   Over the last three years I had one cache battery die.  

Battery packs are great unless you need to charge them.  I had used or 
tried to use a couple of battery packs then charge them with the ewerk.   
that worked except the ones I tried could not take a charge while charging. 
   

Anyway, all of last year we had two of them .. one on my wifes bike and one 
on mine.  They worked flawlessly in rain, snow, mud and sunshine.   

Good luck

Kelly

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 Has anyone used or have any knowledge of the Bright-Bike Revolution USB 
 charger. I have been looking into system to go along with my SON 28 to 
 charge my Iphone and camera while on tour. 
 Thanks

 http://www.brightbikelabs.com/products/bright-bike-revolution


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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest and greatest HC poster art

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Good idea Seth! Thanks Andrew. Hope you don't mind that I quoted you on my 
blog. (I kept your name out of it).

Scot, there may be a sweet deal on a poster included with a wheelset...

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:20:19 PM UTC-5, Seth Vidal wrote:




 On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Andrew Drummond 
 andrew.d...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:


 I got mine the other day - it's at the frame shop now. Beautiful! And 
 better yet, it made my daughter (9 years old) want to go bike camping this 
 summer. Wa will, as soon as her bike is done.



 Jim,
  
 This quote right here ^^

 you should put that on your website  :)

 beautiful poster.
 -sv



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[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Wheelset for Ram

2013-04-18 Thread Kelly
Patrick,

I have a Shimano cassette hub rear on a Dyad rim along with a new Dyad Rim. 
  You are welcome to both if they fit your needs.   These are both 700c 36 
hole.  Silver. 
Even has a 11-25 9 speed cassette on it. 

Cost is whatever freight is 

Kelly

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:52:43 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Ian -- Thanks for this. I remain unsure about selling the Sun Rhino wheels 
 and from this agree that it's probably prudent to keep them -- at least, 
 keep them as long as I have the Fargo. I was sorta hoping to do a 
 whole/part trade ...

 Strategy for now: keep riding the borrowed rims as long as I can whileI 
 keep my eye out for a good deal on a used wheelset. There's a local bike 
 swap this Saturday -- damn, and I have volunteered for the cleanup at 
 church. We'll have to see which waits ...

 On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Ian A atte...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

 IMO: -

 Dynamo hub wheelset will be an easier sell, due to the popularity of LED 
 lights. As an example the Avenir lights on Amazon are a killer deal.  The 
 tires probably have some life left.  Probably, a wheelset like this new 
 would cost approx $400.00 (maybe a little more, but if you look at 
 Handspun's prices for similar stuff (Mavic A319 etc). Rotor would cost  a 
 few more bucks. The tires are worth something too.

 On the local CL (no shipping on top), somewhere around $225?  That could 
 be a pretty good deal for someone.  Probably worth more to just keep the 
 wheels, considering what you must have invested in them.


 On Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:02:55 PM UTC-6, bertin753 wrote:

 Two questions: First, I want to sell the skinny wheelset for the Fargo: 
 Bike shop built Sun Rhyno Lite rims with 32 14 g spokes laced to (rear) 
 black SRAM 8//9/10 Shimano compatible disk cassette hub with Avid BB7 160 
 mm rotor (not bent!), no cassette; front ditto to Shimano DH 3DN72 set up 
 with Avid rotor as above using Problem Solver's converter (ie, from splined 
 to 6 bolt). Plus pair of moderately used Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks and two 
 pairs of 28-35 mm tubes. Wheels have no more than 1,200 miles on them as 
 they shared Fargo duty with the SnoCat wheelset.

 I see Rhyno Lite wheelsets on sale for as little as $150 (26). What's a 
 fair price for this one?

 Second: I want a nice silver wheelset for the Ram. The ideal would have 
 sporty-ish rim like an Open Pro, rear 36 and front 32, 14/15 butted spokes, 
 hubs at least 105 level. Best would be a 7 speed wheelset that I could 
 respace to 132.5 But 32/32 or 36/36 and 7 or 8/9/10 are fine. 

 2a. What are my options for similar rim/hub combos? I mean, what other 
 rims are comparable to the Open Pro? I want something sturdy, sub 500 gram, 
 silver, good reputation. I've used Sun rims like the M14A and the ME14A and 
 they are inexpensive, light, and apparently bullet proof. A semi aero 
 profile is fine. Would prefer something as wide as the Open Pro. As to 
 hubs, as long as they are at Hyperglide, the bearings are decent and they 
 are silver or, at least, not ugly, I'm not particular.
 2b. What are the best sources for such wheels -- quality, customer 
 service, price, in that order?
 2c. Does anyone have something like that to trade or sell?

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Also, for group phone charging or iPad charging with solar recharge 
ability, there's this:
http://www.amazon.com/Powertraveller-Extreme-9000mAh-Charger-Playbook/dp/B004XNLM0C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1366324003sr=8-2keywords=powermonkey+extreme

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:11:57 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I use a solar charger when on tour for my iPhone. 
 http://www.solio.com/chargers/

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 8:53:08 AM UTC-6, shawn wrote:

 Has anyone used or have any knowledge of the Bright-Bike Revolution USB 
 charger. I have been looking into system to go along with my SON 28 to 
 charge my Iphone and camera while on tour. 
 Thanks

 http://www.brightbikelabs.com/products/bright-bike-revolution



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[RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Tom Harrop
Kelly, that's interesting to hear, 'cos I couldn't get mine to work with 
three different iPhone models. In fact I even tried hooking it up to the 
wall via an AC adapter to be sure it was fully charged and the phones still 
complained. I'm not that worried about charging my phone so I gave up on 
it, but now I'm wondering where I went wrong.

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[RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread shawn
Kelly,
From the manufactures FAQ on their web site.

“ Why does it take 10 seconds for charging to begin?”

“Some devices, such as the iPhone, require a minimum amount of power to 
charge correctly. If charging begins before input power is sufficient, the 
device may refuse to charge. The 10 seconds delay gives you time to reach a 
minimum speed. This allows you to charge and iPhone or other devices that 
would not otherwise charge correctly.

Do you think that would address the issue of starting and stopping? I have 
asked the manufacture to specifically address stopping and starting again.

Thanks

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:17:18 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote:

 First off it's not the charger that will or won't charge an iPhone.  If 
 you plugged it in at speed you would be alright.  Just never stop or you 
 will have to unplug and plug it back in once  back to speed.
 I've been using the e-werk with cache battery.   I have the latest 
 greatest IOS on an iphone 5 and it worked flawlessly last week on tour. 
   Once again if your cache battery is not charged or not there the minute 
 you stop the i-phone yells hey this is an unauthorized charging system or 
 something.  
 I've used this through the last three iPhones with many levels of IOS with 
 no issues at all.   Over the last three years I had one cache battery die.  

 Battery packs are great unless you need to charge them.  I had used or 
 tried to use a couple of battery packs then charge them with the ewerk.   
 that worked except the ones I tried could not take a charge while charging. 


 Anyway, all of last year we had two of them .. one on my wifes bike and 
 one on mine.  They worked flawlessly in rain, snow, mud and sunshine.   

 Good luck

 Kelly

 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 9:53:08 AM UTC-5, shawn wrote:

 Has anyone used or have any knowledge of the Bright-Bike Revolution USB 
 charger. I have been looking into system to go along with my SON 28 to 
 charge my Iphone and camera while on tour. 
 Thanks

 http://www.brightbikelabs.com/products/bright-bike-revolution



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[RBW] Re: Brook's new waterproof Cambium saddle coming out

2013-04-18 Thread Matthew J
Aha.  Just googled Selle Antatomica Laminate and understand where Garth 
thought we were referring to leather.  This Brooks is a different product.
On Thursday, April 18, 2013 3:12:38 PM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote: 

 I don't think anyone is associating the new saddle with leather.  Rather 
 the point is the big deal about the saddle is that it has no leather, not 
 that this fact somehow makes it more weather proof than leather.
 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:28:31 PM UTC-5, Garth wrote: 


 It's Not leather everyone .lol.   Natural rubber and cotton. 

 So if you're associating it with Leather  don't !



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[RBW] Inland Scenery

2013-04-18 Thread Eric Norris
Today's ride photos:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8660657723/in/set-72157633273887307/lightbox/


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[RBW] Mike-on-the-hill?

2013-04-18 Thread Aaron Thomas
At the end of the April 18 Blug post, Grant says of a particular rim and 
tire combination that it's no Mike-on-the-hill.

Anyone care to bring me up to speed on what that means?

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[RBW] Re: Playing Hooky

2013-04-18 Thread Tom Goodmann
Good looking bike along the Great River!

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:54:40 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

 Hey Eric, Lookin' good on the Mighty Mississippi!  Especially when we're 
 getting gloppy oatmeal snow only two days later.  Sheesh!  How are you 
 liking the Simple1?


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[RBW] Re: FS: 56 cm Atlantis

2013-04-18 Thread Matt Gilkey
Frame and stem are sold!  Thanks for all of the interest. If anyone is 
interested in the wheelset please let me know. Will be posting the parts and 
many others for sale soon. 

-Matt

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[RBW] Re: Mike-on-the-hill?

2013-04-18 Thread Scot Brooks
I think he must be referring to Mike cresting the hill in the photo from 
the Merry Sales cover. Using the photo as a benchmark of cool, the rim and 
tire combo is cool but not *as *cool. 

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:45:28 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote:

 At the end of the April 18 Blug post, Grant says of a particular rim and 
 tire combination that it's no Mike-on-the-hill.

 Anyone care to bring me up to speed on what that means?


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[RBW] Re: Mike-on-the-hill?

2013-04-18 Thread Stephen S
I believe he is referring to the the previous paragraph about Mike on the 
Hill and the pic taken by Manny. I believe he is saying that the look of 
the tire on the rim isn't as pretty as the pic of Mike on the Hill. 

Stephen

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:45:28 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote:

 At the end of the April 18 Blug post, Grant says of a particular rim and 
 tire combination that it's no Mike-on-the-hill.

 Anyone care to bring me up to speed on what that means?


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[RBW] Mike-on-the-hill?

2013-04-18 Thread EGNolan
He's referring to the image and the previous image of, well, Mike on the hill. 
He's basically saying it isn't a dynamic, beauty of a shot, but interesting in 
its own way.

Best,
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[RBW] Mike-on-the-hill?

2013-04-18 Thread EGNolan
Amazing how on my iPhone this didn't update at all and now I feel like an ass 
for responding to the question w/ the sane response as two other, quicker 
responders. Sorry y'all.

-Eric

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[RBW] Re: Mike-on-the-hill?

2013-04-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Well, you're not a Mike-on-the-hill, but who is? Other than Mike. On the 
hill. Grin.

Mike-on-the-hill: Phrase coined by Grant P. on April 18, 2013 referring to 
the benchmark of quinticential bicycle riding as an unracer in the wilds.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 6:20:11 PM UTC-6, EGNolan wrote:

 Amazing how on my iPhone this didn't update at all and now I feel like an 
 ass for responding to the question w/ the sane response as two other, 
 quicker responders. Sorry y'all.

 -Eric


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[RBW] Re: Inland Scenery

2013-04-18 Thread dougP
Eric:

Where did you take these photos?  Looks pretty deserted,  great for 
riding.  Down here the term I.E. refers to the Inland Empire, Riverside  
San Bernardino counties.  Is there an I.E. in northern California as 
well?  

dougP

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:07:38 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:

 Today's ride photos: 


 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8660657723/in/set-72157633273887307/lightbox/
  


 Eric N 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Playing Hooky

2013-04-18 Thread Eric Platt
Ryan - the brake levers are the Dia-Compe.  And yes, did upgrade to the DOS
freewheel (17/19 in this case).  Was having problems with the Shimano last
fall.

Used hard cider for the broth with the mussels.  Suggested by a friend.
Ended up quite tasty.  And yes, crusty bread.

Today we've had 4 or so inches of snow, on top of a layer of ice.  And
it's still snowing.  Rarely say this, but am sick and tired of this
prolonged cold and snowy weather.

Will see how many miles I get on the SimpleOne this year.  Last year was
about 1200.  Like to improve on that.  Might be tough, though, with more
gigs scheduled during the summer and early fall. The legs were noticing the
lack of gearing choices after the ride.  Was fine by later in the evening,
though.  Maybe the mussels helped the muscles?
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Tom Goodmann tgoodm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Good looking bike along the Great River!


 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 5:54:40 PM UTC-4, Liesl wrote:

 Hey Eric, Lookin' good on the Mighty Mississippi!  Especially when we're
 getting gloppy oatmeal snow only two days later.  Sheesh!  How are you
 liking the Simple1?

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[RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread dougP
So if you have a bike rack, you should lock it up?  Or drag it in'n'out of 
the shop every day?  Next the scrappers will be stealing dumpsters.

dougP

On Wednesday, April 17, 2013 9:21:00 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 Just saw this. Pretty pissed. It was an awesome bike rack also with 
 Rivendell's name on it. I'm think someone stole it for the metal. Anyone 
 check at any of the local Recycling places?
 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/3749459611.html




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[RBW] Re: Dynamo USB charger

2013-04-18 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
I used the 11Ah and mor the 12Ah New Trent batteries for up to a week without a 
recharge. I kept my phone off or on airplane mode a lot, but that's not 
unreasonable in places where there is no signal.

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[RBW] speaking of the blug... new Atlas rim

2013-04-18 Thread Mike Schiller
Grant mentioned the new beefy touring Atlas rim again, to be made by 
Velocity right here in the USA. This time I detected a tone like it was 
already a reality.
Checked the Velocity website and it is now listed in 26, 650B and 700C.   
http://velocity-dev.com/index.php/product/rims/atlas-584
Wide at 25.4 and beefy at 590 gms for the 650B size.   
should be a great rim for big knobbies and heavy duty touring.

~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Inland Scenery

2013-04-18 Thread Eric Norris
This part of the ride was fairly quiet. Riding through the middle of Corona is 
like urban warfare--lots of high speed traffic, no bike lane, no shoulder. I 
have to grit my teeth and get through that part as quickly as I can.

Eric N
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On Apr 18, 2013, at 5:37 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Eric:
 
 Where did you take these photos?  Looks pretty deserted,  great for riding.  
 Down here the term I.E. refers to the Inland Empire, Riverside  San 
 Bernardino counties.  Is there an I.E. in northern California as well?  
 
 dougP
 
 On Thursday, April 18, 2013 4:07:38 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
 
 Today's ride photos: 
 
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8660657723/in/set-72157633273887307/lightbox/
  
 
 
 Eric N 
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 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
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[RBW] Thanks and search for 36 hole front hub

2013-04-18 Thread PATRICK MOORE
First, thanks again and very much to the great generosity of listers who
have made it possible for me to build this Ram despite my currently short
finances. I am surprised and touched by the generosity and consider it a
duty to pass on such generosity as and when I can.

Thanks in particular, this time, to Kelly who just offered me a wheelset
(minus front hub, of which more in a minute) for shipping.

I need a 36 hole front hub and would prefer silver and Shimano but will
take silver and anything. To trade, have two good 32 hole hubs, one a
SunTour (XC500?) -- the one sold by Rivendell 15 years ago. The cartridge
bearings were replaced shortly before I switched the wheel for one with a
Phil.

The other is an Ultegra from the mid 90s, don't know model, but it's silver
too.

I also have a few other things to trade including a very nice pair of
silver M324s.

Thanks again, all!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who steals a bike rack from Rivendell?!?!

2013-04-18 Thread RJM
They are too here, but it is usually copper or aluminum, not bike rack 
steel. 
 

On Thursday, April 18, 2013 2:28:31 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:

 Where I'm from scrap metal thefts are a HUGE problem! 


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