[RBW] Re: Just Ride (g-dammit!).
Well said, Patrick. That is precisely why I decided that tempting as it is to want to play with, a fixie would never be anything but a novelty toy here in the mountains. I must say though, playing with the idea of a fixed gear taught me each gear has a much wider range (on the low end in particular) than I'd previously utilized and I subsequently shift much less. ALways good to play! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:52:40 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: The general theme of Just Ride being riding without complication, daunting goals, and excessive complication, I have found a niche way to implement that principle: riding with multiple gears. I was tired this morning and debated briefly whether to take the car to Stevie's, but decided to ride since I have the Ram which has a 35 low gear -- 30/23), and because the outbound trip has a net elevation loss of several hundred feet. I was tired all day and, this evening at 6 pm, found myself faced with a ride just shy of 8 miles with the temp closing on 90, a brisk breeze quartering against me, and the elevation to be regained that I had coasted down this morning. But, no sweat! Multiple gears! Wonderful things! I got on the Ram and headed south for 1.5 mile against the wind, no sweat, keeping it in the 70. Turned westward onto Coronado and the gradual climb toward the Mesa -- again, no sweat, dropped to the 66 and twiddled away. Crossed Loma Larga where the grade turns gradually upward -- no sweat; I've got 60 and 50 in the big ring. After 1/2 mile, Coronado meets the Mesa and turns viciously steep. No sweat! Dropped seriatim to the 60 and, bypassing the 44/23 = 50, chickened out to the 30t inner and, again seriatim, into the 45, the 41, and even the shameful 30X23 or 35. I twiddled seated up the steepest parts -- none longer than 1/4 mile -- seated, easy, comfortable -- except for the steepest 1/8 mile where I stood because it was more comfortable. I regularly clear these slopes on Riv #3 (70 fixed) and even #2 (75 fixed), not to mention the lethargic Fargo (38/32 = 34), but, tired as I was today, it was hugely comforting to know that I could master these minor obstacles without straining. And the bar: 42 cm Noodle, just shy of 1 below saddle. The great virtue of the Noodle, for me, is the deepish drop (140 mm) that allows you to have a (relatively) high flat and (relatively) stretched hoods, with nice, flat ramps, over a (relatively) low hook. I rode the flats and the ramps comfortably on the gradual inclines, and was glad of the stretched out hoods against the wind and when the road turned upward. I stood only for 1/8 mile or so on the steepest section in the 35, not from necessity but for comfort. I averaged 11.66 mph clock running including a stop at the PO to get my mother's mail from her box -- including triaging some of the junk because I hadn't room for it all. Altogether, a good ride, despite initial tiredness exacerbated by the g-d flat. A very brief ride that, on a fixie, would have made me regret riding. But with a 35 low and a bar with flat just 1 below saddle, No Sweat! Patrick Moore, excreting more words per mile than anyone else in ABQ, NM -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Just Ride (g-dammit!).
Everything that's old becomes new again, I bypassed the latest fixed/singlespeed wave so I can be new without ever getting old. Not making much sense but it's 5 am...so, you know. Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Logo removal
I have a nice shiny Nitto S83 seatpost with a slightly annoying S83 logo. How do I remove the logo without scratching the finish of the post? Thanks, Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Logo removal
I've used both : 1. Brasso Metal polish and a rag . takes a while to rub it off. 2. Ultra Fine Steel Wool (Grade ) . just rub ! Neither do anything to the anodizing, just removing the logos. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:36:05 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote: I have a nice shiny Nitto S83 seatpost with a slightly annoying S83 logo. How do I remove the logo without scratching the finish of the post? Thanks, Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Logo removal
Twine and shellac it. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:36:05 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: I have a nice shiny Nitto S83 seatpost with a slightly annoying S83 logo. How do I remove the logo without scratching the finish of the post? Thanks, Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Foy and Red Brooks
I got it online, so you'll have to be patient! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Logo removal
I use white gas or lighter fluid to remove stickers and sticky bits (not sure how the logo is on there, I presume a sticker of some kind?). With abandon, Patrick On Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:36:05 AM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: I have a nice shiny Nitto S83 seatpost with a slightly annoying S83 logo. How do I remove the logo without scratching the finish of the post? Thanks, Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] That Pugsley
Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS front wheel
Thanks to all who considered this. The wheel is sold, and has a new home! Rusty Pittsburgh On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:30:19 PM UTC-4, Rusty Click wrote: FS, a Rich built, 700c F36 Synergy LX front wheel. Lonely, and needs a new home. approx. 3000miles on it. Asking $60 shipped US. Contact off site if interested. Rusty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: That Pugsley
Almost everybody who rides one is surprised by the experience. The wide Q isn't that bigga deal. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:40:11 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley
I rode my friend Ed's small frame Pugsley; it felt like a BMX bike for clydesdales. Pretty sweet, actually, but I can't see one for much of a distance. I would jump the hell out of one though. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Almost everybody who rides one is surprised by the experience. The wide Q isn't that bigga deal. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:40:11 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: That Pugsley
If I lived in the desert, I'd definitely want to own a Pugsley or Moonlander. Some of the most fun an adventurous person can have on a bike. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:54:55 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Almost everybody who rides one is surprised by the experience. The wide Q isn't that bigga deal. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:40:11 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Logo removal
Gets my vote as Best Answer. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:15:37 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Twine and shellac it. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:36:05 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: I have a nice shiny Nitto S83 seatpost with a slightly annoying S83 logo. How do I remove the logo without scratching the finish of the post? Thanks, Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley
I rode both a Pugsley and a Moonlander at Jim's shop, Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis. For me, the wide bottom bracket was not an issue at all and I was expecting it to be. The bikes where nowhere near as cumbersome or clumsy feeling as I was expecting. I could see having all kinds of fun on one of them. I've got fat bike fever now. Shaun Meehan On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote: I rode my friend Ed's small frame Pugsley; it felt like a BMX bike for clydesdales. Pretty sweet, actually, but I can't see one for much of a distance. I would jump the hell out of one though. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: Almost everybody who rides one is surprised by the experience. The wide Q isn't that bigga deal. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:40:11 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley
The Moonlander's footprint is over the top (cool). The Krampus 29er I recently rode was a total blast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: That Pugsley
I can attest to the fact the Puglsey is more than for just snow; my only mtb bike: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fMVg3EEwiPc/UZepZUpkyZI/AFc/VyOUfWxiIiU/s1600/photo-6.JPG On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:40:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
I finally got fed up and just installed Stan's (about 1 oz each tube) in Ram's tubes. We'll see how it does. I've also got Tire Savers installed. If the rate of flats (about one a ride) doesn't go down, it's back to the Kojaks. I think you have to check the Stan's after three months or so and replenish if it has dried up? -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB 57cm Bleriot...
i have a tricked out 56 Rambouillet in green in very nice shape I need to price it and get it cleaned and ready to go. It has an Alpine double and skf bb and noodles VO fluted fenders TRP brake levers fingertip shifters and hemp cord on the chainstay I bought a blue 54 which is not as pretty but fits me much better i have some pictures so let me know if this might be of interest Thanks Bo Richardson Bellingham Wa On Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:31:21 PM UTC-7, Mike B wrote: Putting my toe in the water here and wondering if anyone out there has a 57cm Bleriot they would like to sell me. Just the frame I think... Cheers Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
On Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:44:17 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I think you have to check the Stan's after three months or so and replenish if it has dried up? Probably not a bad idea. In tubeless applications, I generally get at least 6 months before I add more, but I don't have as many goatheads as you. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
The instructions say 2-7 months depending on climate, which I take to mean that where it's very dry it dries up faster. I'll keep an eye on them. How *does* one discover if the sealant has dried -- besides getting more flats? I'd like to be pro-active. Also, Jim: when yours dries up, do you add more to the tube or use a new tube with new sealant? Nother question: If I were to use it in 700X60C tires, 2-plus tubes, how much should I insert? Tho' so far the Big Apples have done pretty darn well at resisting the evil thorn. I had enough bad experiences with Slime and True Goo -- to wit, larger flats where the sealant didn't seal but instead simply leaked into the casing, leaving a puddle of slimy mess. I am hoping that Stan's proves to be a more effective remedy. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Jim M. mather...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:44:17 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I think you have to check the Stan's after three months or so and replenish if it has dried up? Probably not a bad idea. In tubeless applications, I generally get at least 6 months before I add more, but I don't have as many goatheads as you. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley
Damn, another bike to add to the want list. I must try one. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: I can attest to the fact the Puglsey is more than for just snow; my only mtb bike: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fMVg3EEwiPc/UZepZUpkyZI/AFc/VyOUfWxiIiU/s1600/photo-6.JPG On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:40:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Ha ha ha ha !!! On Saturday, May 18, 2013, LeahFoy wrote: I got it online, so you'll have to be patient! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Sent from Gmail Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New long reach TRP Brakes
Yup...me too and they're really comfortable toothe brakes shown are nice...would be even better in silver On Friday, May 17, 2013 9:11:30 PM UTC-5, RoadieRyan wrote: Yes TRP is the high zoot brand for Tektro I bought some of their funky drilled brake levers recently and love the look -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] OT Maybe? Riding the Erie Canal
Ok so does me saying we are planning to ride the Erie Canal on Rivendel's make it on topic? :) Anyway, if you live in New York and want tourist dollars. May I suggest getting some shuttle service companies between Buffalo and Albany. After days of searching we've been unable to to hire anyone to take 6 to 10 people and bikes for a 1000.00 or less. Nobody really minds paying 200 per person on the smaller groups. Trains and Buses won't work for this size group as most have restrictions and it would require splitting the group up. We have alternative's as in the USBR 35 though Michigan - Nice shuttle company minimum 500 bucks 15 per bike and person over 5. We have fond shuttles for Natches Trace For the GAP ride.. (ok so I've done that twice and there are tons of shuttles. Shuttle services exist even for the Cowboy Trail. The Erie Canal is a long apparently fun ride but no shuttles? Even the state group rides says you are on your own getting back to your car but now shuttles.. so how does that happen. New York.. you are losing tourist money.. including the 3 days extra we had planned for motels and play. My rant is done.. guess our on topic Rivendell Bicycles will end up in another state. Kelly Tired of hunting for shuttle services with attitude -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Logo removal
We have a winner! :) On Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:24:52 AM UTC-7, grant wrote: Gets my vote as Best Answer. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:15:37 AM UTC-7, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: Twine and shellac it. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:36:05 AM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote: I have a nice shiny Nitto S83 seatpost with a slightly annoying S83 logo. How do I remove the logo without scratching the finish of the post? Thanks, Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
Well, no flat on the 16.5 mile rt grocery/PO run today -- return half carrying 42 lb in the rear. Question: I figger that the rider weight equivalent of a 42 lb addition to the rear rack is equivalent, assuming a 60/40 r/f weight distribution, to a 245 lb rider. Would a 245 lb rider be chancing things by riding 30 mm Parigi Roubaix's? I am careful to post over the more egregious bumps like our always present and very annoying (and up to 6 wide, tho' generally more like 4) expansion cracks. I mean: I expect more tread wear with more weight; but does this sort of Clydesdale equivalent risk busting the sidewalls or delaminating the tread on such a light, supple, delicate tire? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
I run stans in all my tubes here in CO for the same goathead nemesis. My experience has been that I will get about 6-8 months out of each tube before they stop sealing. At that point the little latex bits have clumped together into a space-spore looking thing and will either just tumble around in the tube, or be big enough that it's stuck in place. Even though you can still hear liquid sloshing around, the sealing bits have quit their job. When this happens, the tube is basically toast. I tried adding more sealant, but the spore was so big it was either impeding the flow or gather up the latex. When I remove tubes in this condition they look like snakes with a belly full of mouse. For me replacing both tubes even twice a year is faster, more economical, and less hassle than dealing with the constant flats. Here's a picture of a stans monster I cut out of a tube.http://statigr.am/viewer.php#/detail/434216101358959711_3889190For reference, this came out of a tube run in a 700x32 cross tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
On Sat, 2013-05-18 at 13:57 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Well, no flat on the 16.5 mile rt grocery/PO run today -- return half carrying 42 lb in the rear. Question: I figger that the rider weight equivalent of a 42 lb addition to the rear rack is equivalent, assuming a 60/40 r/f weight distribution, to a 245 lb rider. Would a 245 lb rider be chancing things by riding 30 mm Parigi Roubaix's? Only if they're running them too soft, or they're riding in GOATHEAD COUNTRY, where no man is safe from the Devil's Weed. I am careful to post over the more egregious bumps like our always present and very annoying (and up to 6 wide, tho' generally more like 4) expansion cracks. I mean: I expect more tread wear with more weight; but does this sort of Clydesdale equivalent risk busting the sidewalls or delaminating the tread on such a light, supple, delicate tire? I do not think so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
On Sat, 2013-05-18 at 11:16 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: How *does* one discover if the sealant has dried -- besides getting more flats? I'd like to be pro-active. Do you actually have to go out of your way to pro-actively encourage flats on the Parigi-Roubaix tires? If so, you might try flash cards with pictures of broken glass. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT Maybe? Riding the Erie Canal
Kelly: I have no idea of your origin destination points but an oft over-looked option is one way cars. Between major airports, it's often possible to book a one way car at a reasonable price (i.e., NOT huge drop-off fees). You have to book well ahead of time, and shop several agencies. You've got a big group but you could also try posting a Request for Shuttle here on the BOB list. I did that a few years ago when a train connection was cancelled well before we started our tour. Sure enough, a fellow lister came thru was able to organize a shuttle for the 100 mile connection we needed to make. Our group was only 5 so a bit easier to handle. dougP On Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:44:53 AM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: Ok so does me saying we are planning to ride the Erie Canal on Rivendel's make it on topic? :) Anyway, if you live in New York and want tourist dollars. May I suggest getting some shuttle service companies between Buffalo and Albany. After days of searching we've been unable to to hire anyone to take 6 to 10 people and bikes for a 1000.00 or less. Nobody really minds paying 200 per person on the smaller groups. Trains and Buses won't work for this size group as most have restrictions and it would require splitting the group up. We have alternative's as in the USBR 35 though Michigan - Nice shuttle company minimum 500 bucks 15 per bike and person over 5. We have fond shuttles for Natches Trace For the GAP ride.. (ok so I've done that twice and there are tons of shuttles. Shuttle services exist even for the Cowboy Trail. The Erie Canal is a long apparently fun ride but no shuttles? Even the state group rides says you are on your own getting back to your car but now shuttles.. so how does that happen. New York.. you are losing tourist money.. including the 3 days extra we had planned for motels and play. My rant is done.. guess our on topic Rivendell Bicycles will end up in another state. Kelly Tired of hunting for shuttle services with attitude -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
[Don't know your name]: your link requires registration. Can you attach the photo, or give a non-restricted link? I'd like to see what Stan's looks like after 6 mos. Also: how do you know when it is time to replace the tube/Stan's? Do you go only by time? Thanks! On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 2:21 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: I run stans in all my tubes here in CO for the same goathead nemesis. My experience has been that I will get about 6-8 months out of each tube before they stop sealing. At that point the little latex bits have clumped together into a space-spore looking thing and will either just tumble around in the tube, or be big enough that it's stuck in place. Even though you can still hear liquid sloshing around, the sealing bits have quit their job. When this happens, the tube is basically toast. I tried adding more sealant, but the spore was so big it was either impeding the flow or gather up the latex. When I remove tubes in this condition they look like snakes with a belly full of mouse. For me replacing both tubes even twice a year is faster, more economical, and less hassle than dealing with the constant flats. Here's a picture of a stans monster I cut out of a tube.http://statigr.am/viewer.php#/detail/434216101358959711_3889190For reference, this came out of a tube run in a 700x32 cross tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
Sorry...wasnt sure if it would link. I stuck it on flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/8751837634/in/photostream/lightbox/ As for knowing when...you'll get a flat and it will refuse to seal. I'll remove thorns etc, shake the wheel around to coat the tube and try airing it up...if it deflates, I replace with my spare and hope to make it back. I can't think of any way to check. I suppose you could remove the tube and feel around to see if the sealant has started clumping, but if my tubes are holding air, I dont mess with them. The sealant works by plugging the hole and drying so my guess is taking a tube out could potentially unclog some of the holes. Total speculation that. I do know that by the time I pull the plug on a tube, it's got hundreds of punctures. I've removed 50+ goatheads in one sitting, so if the stans sealed it for 6 months...I consider that a job well done and retirement is earned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
Excellent, many thanks. I'll archive this for future reference. The photo of the Stan's Monster scared and upset me. I calmed and reassured myself by looking at the St. Stefanus photo. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 3:17 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: Sorry...wasnt sure if it would link. I stuck it on flickr.http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/8751837634/in/photostream/lightbox/ As for knowing when...you'll get a flat and it will refuse to seal. I'll remove thorns etc, shake the wheel around to coat the tube and try airing it up...if it deflates, I replace with my spare and hope to make it back. I can't think of any way to check. I suppose you could remove the tube and feel around to see if the sealant has started clumping, but if my tubes are holding air, I dont mess with them. The sealant works by plugging the hole and drying so my guess is taking a tube out could potentially unclog some of the holes. Total speculation that. I do know that by the time I pull the plug on a tube, it's got hundreds of punctures. I've removed 50+ goatheads in one sitting, so if the stans sealed it for 6 months...I consider that a job well done and retirement is earned. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram
Good to know -- I remember now that Steve = approx. 1.43 of me. We'll see how the Stan's does. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sat, 2013-05-18 at 13:57 -0600, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Well, no flat on the 16.5 mile rt grocery/PO run today -- return half carrying 42 lb in the rear. Question: I figger that the rider weight equivalent of a 42 lb addition to the rear rack is equivalent, assuming a 60/40 r/f weight distribution, to a 245 lb rider. Would a 245 lb rider be chancing things by riding 30 mm Parigi Roubaix's? Only if they're running them too soft, or they're riding in GOATHEAD COUNTRY, where no man is safe from the Devil's Weed. I am careful to post over the more egregious bumps like our always present and very annoying (and up to 6 wide, tho' generally more like 4) expansion cracks. I mean: I expect more tread wear with more weight; but does this sort of Clydesdale equivalent risk busting the sidewalls or delaminating the tread on such a light, supple, delicate tire? I do not think so. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Betty Foy and Red Brooks
Awesome..gonna need pics when it arrives...my wife recently got her hands on a Betty Foy and she is really anxious to see your photos -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: OT Maybe? Riding the Erie Canal
or a one way passenger van and Uhaul truck to carry bikes and gear. Been there and done that. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB 57cm Bleriot...
Hi Bo. Thank you for the offer but I think I will hold out for the Bleriot. Mike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley
I'm glad someone else brought this up, because I sure as hell wasn't going to out myself! When the fat bikes came out I thought what a truly ridiculous idea. Since then, I've seen all sorts of cool adventures on youtube (find the guys who fatbiked/kayaked in Alaska!) and have moved to a place where I have access to miles of creekbed with potato sized rocks (everything from fingerlings to bakers). I tried riding my bike with 2.0 tires and couldn't hack it. I'm going to try again with my bike with 2.4s - if that doesn't cut it a Puglsey is on the the shopping list. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:17:29 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Damn, another bike to add to the want list. I must try one. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I can attest to the fact the Puglsey is more than for just snow; my only mtb bike: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fMVg3EEwiPc/UZepZUpkyZI/AFc/VyOUfWxiIiU/s1600/photo-6.JPG On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:40:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Strange happenings out there
My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my go-to place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon race bikes with the handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two steel bikes, gunnars and surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this happening everywhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley
Since I rarely ride snow, I would now get the *Krampus* (Surly), a 29er+ instead of a Pugs, but they just came out with them recently. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:42:12 AM UTC-7, Tonester wrote: I'm glad someone else brought this up, because I sure as hell wasn't going to out myself! When the fat bikes came out I thought what a truly ridiculous idea. Since then, I've seen all sorts of cool adventures on youtube (find the guys who fatbiked/kayaked in Alaska!) and have moved to a place where I have access to miles of creekbed with potato sized rocks (everything from fingerlings to bakers). I tried riding my bike with 2.0 tires and couldn't hack it. I'm going to try again with my bike with 2.4s - if that doesn't cut it a Puglsey is on the the shopping list. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:17:29 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Damn, another bike to add to the want list. I must try one. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.com wrote: I can attest to the fact the Puglsey is more than for just snow; my only mtb bike: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fMVg3EEwiPc/UZepZUpkyZI/AFc/VyOUfWxiIiU/s1600/photo-6.JPG On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:40:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
This is an exercise in futility. It's sort of like going to Walmart to buy USA made goods. It's possible, but you'll be searching long and hard and your selection will be extremely limited. The reality is, many of the big manufacturers DID stop making steel bikes a long time ago. Aluminum has completely taken over the lower and mid level market, and the current king of high end exotica is carbon. There are some smaller brands that seem to be getting a foot hold with current steel offerings, but those brands are typically only carried by likewise independent retailers that most likely dont carry A brands. The smaller production and niche market generally lend to higher pricing which is going to automatically weed out a very large percentage of the buying populous. Like it or not when it comes to high end, the masses directly equate more money to lighter weight. I work for a shop that sells Cannondale and Trek and this reality is all too true. We stock some cool innovative bikes, some are mind numbingly light, some seem to have more tech than my phone, others have more suspension travel than my motorcycle, but they all have two wheels and get people outside. I have worked for this family on and off for 20 years and my loyalty to them goes beyond the bikes. I realize my take on bikes is contrary to the norm and that places like Rivendell are the hidden gems. I've seen behind the curtain and the industry can be rough and ugly and small guys dont tend to last long. Rivendell etal are kicking ass by persisting and persevering. That said, I shop at Rivendell via the web, and the three bikes I own are all steel and USA made. I'm Brad, the black sheep of our stores. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Strange happenings out there
There are still places where the practical side of bicycling has a place, and here in Seattle we're lucky to be one of those places. We have a for-real Rivendell dealer (Free Range Cycles) that also carries Surly, Rawland, and VO. There's also 2020 who have awesome used stuff and a great do what works attitude. Bicycle Pull Apart is a cool shop that looks like it belongs in a post-apocalyptic world. Elliot Bay Bicycles deserves a mention since Bill Davidson (one of the owners) is one of the long time masters of steel and he makes wonderful, practical customs. He's a little racy, but hey, love him anyway. I also get the impression Minneapolis has things well under control with Jim Thill's shop (just got a great set of Dyads built by Jim himself. Thanks Jim!) Having said that, I used to live in the racing wasteland of Southern California and had an awful time wandering in the wilderness before I happened across a mention of Rivendell on Sheldon Brown's website. If not for that, I'd still be miserably doing occasional rides on a bike I hated, imagining that all cycling is a brainless workout that's meant to be suffered through. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Strange happenings out there
The market has changed dramatically, at least in more sophisticated (read: high bicycle use) markets. Here in ABQ, there are many stores that sell Surleys and Salsas and doubtless Somas, and other makers of steel or, at least, well designed everyday bikes are popping up all the time. You have a wide variety between Cervelos and cruisers. As for aluminum, IMO, it is the best thing that could have happened to the low end market. Hoist an aluminum beach cruiser with alum wheels and parts, and then go heft a Varsity or Sports -- and the cruiser and even the hybrid and so forth will be well made, too, often -- as long as you can find hybrid/city bike without front suspension. Several years ago a high end (=Cervelo and Orbea) shop carried a very nice aluminum Trek city bike, a modernized Sports, in metallic Kelly green, and it was a joy to behold and to lift -- didn't get a chance to ride it. Grant and, later, Jan (to mention just pioneers) have affected the market far out of proportion to their sales numbers. Much thanks to them! On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM, PeterG ssubman2...@yahoo.com wrote: My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my go-to place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon race bikes with the handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two steel bikes, gunnars and surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this happening everywhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
I just finished a 73 mile on my Roadeo. Maybe I could go faster on a few short steep hills, but my rides are not about comparing my performance to someone else or some group. I just want to be fit enough to enjoy my rides. This mentality doesn't fit in with the carbon-race bike marketing BS. I am 61, not slow and can climb reasonably fast. But, my Roadeo gives me a very comfortable position and the long chainstays make the bike very stable on fast, curvy, bumpy downhills. The carbon sellers can't comprehend my situation. But RBW can On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:24:48 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my go-to place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon race bikes with the handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two steel bikes, gunnars and surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this happening everywhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
Peter: As sad as that state of affairs may seem, it's pretty typical of what to expect in Southern California. I wonder how many sales are lost because people decide they don't want to ride a twitchy bike all hunched over. They just want to ride something fun (maybe more fun than a beach cruiser), the bike shop says they don't make 'em anymore, the entry level customer gives up tries another sport with an easier entry point. The closest shop to me is part of a multi-store Trek chain. They know me because I wheel my Atlantis in park it on its kickstand. A couple of the wrenches really like the bike (no, they don't get to work on it). A while back on of my kids who lives out of state was interested in a particular Trek model asked me to take a look. I told the sales guy I was just looking for my kid wasn't going to buy the bike from him. He knows me I picked a slow day to visit. This model came with the option of a compact double or a road triple, and the sales guy actually started to spout off what must be the party line about the simplicity of a compact double over the complexity of a triple, then espousing the benefits of a 10 speed cog system. It was painful to hear. I finally stopped him said George, you know me, you know my bike. How can you expect me to take this seriously?. He caught himself, said something about not sure how this all works out, actually. To his credit, he asked So what would you do?. I told him it seemed the most rational thing on this bike (sub $1,000 aluminum) was probably the road triple option with a wide range MTB cassette but please only 9 speeds. This sort of killed it with changing RDs shifters. BTW, the kid found a 2-3 year old comparable model with 9 speed road triple on the local CL. But what happens to the entry level customer who just walks into a shop cold, looking for something fun sporty but not necessarily BORAF ready? They want to bolt on a rack, toss on a bag do day trips, supported tours, fun rides. They're not racing or touring the world, they just want to ride. dougP On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:24:48 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my go-to place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon race bikes with the handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two steel bikes, gunnars and surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this happening everywhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
DougP...My thoughts exactly...it was sad to be there and see it all happen. I just let them go on and on ( think I was a little stunned). Thank God for places like Rivendell, Hiawatha, Mtn Sports and the handful of caring shops who dare to buck the system (I know I'm missing a bunch)... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
DonI'm saving for a Rodeocan't wait...(smiling like a child waiting on Christmas)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
Let's not let this discussion degenerate into a us/them, carbon fiber/steel jeremaid -- as fun as such things are. And let's make some basic distinctions. It's not carbon fiber that is bad; it may not even be carbon fiber racing bikes that are bad. Just because those who buy Cervelos and so forth don't like your steel, and vise-versa, doesn't mean that there isn't room in the cycling universe for both. Me, I think people who need 8, 9 -- gad, 10! gears in back, especially if they use -- gasp! -- brifters! -- are simply racer posers. Or perhaps touring wannabees. I personally think that there is a lot of bs, or fashion, that drives current racing bikes, CF or otherwise, but there is also a lot of bs, or mere fashion, driving many other aspects of cycling, too. Patrick Moore, who wil be 61 in three years. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote: I just finished a 73 mile on my Roadeo. Maybe I could go faster on a few short steep hills, but my rides are not about comparing my performance to someone else or some group. I just want to be fit enough to enjoy my rides. This mentality doesn't fit in with the carbon-race bike marketing BS. I am 61, not slow and can climb reasonably fast. But, my Roadeo gives me a very comfortable position and the long chainstays make the bike very stable on fast, curvy, bumpy downhills. The carbon sellers can't comprehend my situation. But RBW can On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:24:48 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my go-to place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon race bikes with the handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two steel bikes, gunnars and surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this happening everywhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
Peter, I don't tour or carry much, but the ability to use any size tire and the long chainstays makes the Roadeo just a great bike for me. My friends with their Carbon creations look at me cross-eyed, but I just really enjoy riding the bike. Its like my car, a late model Mini Cooper. Its not as fast as a lot of cars, but there's no car, no matter how expensive, that's more fun to drive. And, I can put my Roadeo in the back of the car. I had a conversation with Grant and told him that they came out with a model that fit a club rider like myself. It was during a visit to the shop in Walnut Creek. He sold me his unpainted frameset and together, we decided on a color, Mary's blue , his wife's favorite color. Even though I don't carry any loads on my bike, I and a true believer in Rivendell. Anyway, I am probably preaching to the choir. Don On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:09:01 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: DonI'm saving for a Rodeocan't wait...(smiling like a child waiting on Christmas)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
The these 30-somethings will tell you everything wrong with the geometry of the bikes we want. Last shop I was in he was selling one of those race bikes to a 50-something, and it will end up a $1500 garage decoration, because you know the guy won't be able to ride that way without cervical strain. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:09:01 PM UTC-5, PeterG wrote: DonI'm saving for a Rodeocan't wait...(smiling like a child waiting on Christmas)) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
Patrick, It's not about carbon vs. steel. It's about design and geometry. The only carbon bike that I have seen that looks good to me is the Calfee Adventure Bike. And, if I were to drop some cash on a new frameset, I would seriously consider that Calfee. But, it's hard to pull me from my nostalgic love of steel. Don On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:46:34 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Let's not let this discussion degenerate into a us/them, carbon fiber/steel jeremaid -- as fun as such things are. And let's make some basic distinctions. It's not carbon fiber that is bad; it may not even be carbon fiber racing bikes that are bad. Just because those who buy Cervelos and so forth don't like your steel, and vise-versa, doesn't mean that there isn't room in the cycling universe for both. Me, I think people who need 8, 9 -- gad, 10! gears in back, especially if they use -- gasp! -- brifters! -- are simply racer posers. Or perhaps touring wannabees. I personally think that there is a lot of bs, or fashion, that drives current racing bikes, CF or otherwise, but there is also a lot of bs, or mere fashion, driving many other aspects of cycling, too. Patrick Moore, who wil be 61 in three years. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Don Compton dpc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I just finished a 73 mile on my Roadeo. Maybe I could go faster on a few short steep hills, but my rides are not about comparing my performance to someone else or some group. I just want to be fit enough to enjoy my rides. This mentality doesn't fit in with the carbon-race bike marketing BS. I am 61, not slow and can climb reasonably fast. But, my Roadeo gives me a very comfortable position and the long chainstays make the bike very stable on fast, curvy, bumpy downhills. The carbon sellers can't comprehend my situation. But RBW can On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:24:48 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my go-to place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon race bikes with the handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two steel bikes, gunnars and surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this happening everywhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
actually there is a good shop in So Cal. Pacific Coast Cycles in Oceanside sells steel bikes, has panniers in the window and the owner know is stuff. He sells Surly and Salsa along with other brands. Luckily this is close to my home so it's the only real shop I actually go to. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Campy Only!: Lee Mitchell Update
Great news for friends of Lee Mitchell: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com/2013/05/lee-mitchell-update.html --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
As the retail bike buyer moves up beyond entry level comfort bikes, s/he is going to be coaxed toward a race bike with 700x23 rubber or a full-on MTB. Nothing wrong with those, but it's too bad that other options aren't readily available in most shops. Surly would seem to be the gateway drug for many of these shops, but if Trek or Specialized has the shop by the short hairs, it may not be feasible to bring in a competing brand, especially one that is antithetical to the marketing strategy of the flagship brands. So of course, the sales guy or gal is going to sell what's on the sales floor. That's his/her job! I'm one of the 30-something bike salespeople Ron mentioned, and I have no problem whatsoever with modern things like 10-speed or 11-speed cassettes, disc brakes, or threadless headsets. I prefer steel frames and forks, but carbon, Ti, and Al work, too. These details are trivial. The factors that really matter to me are tire clearance and braze-ons. It's possible to have a crummy steel bike that lacks these features, and it's also possible to have a versatile aluminum bike. Anyway, it's always a good idea to occasionally step out of the bubble of rivbike or BQ and see what's out there. It's getting better, believe it or not, but we're still outcasts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st
Andy,the Randle area is beautiful and Alder is my old high school stomping grounds I live maybe 20 miles from Alder lake and the road toward the Morton, Randle, Packwood area is pretty nice..quite a bit of forest land. Morton is approximately 107 miles from Portland and about 90 from Seattle..just checked Googe maps and Mossyrock Park to Packwood Washington on highway 12 is about 48 miles with Mossyrock Park about half way between Portland and Seattlethe town of Centrailia is about half way off I-5 but about 80 miles to Packwood so its a little long. I've driven Highway 12 through the Morton, Randle and Packwood area and it has a decent paved shoulder.one could Google map the entire route and look at the road its pretty nice. I'll bet there are plenty of decent campgrounds in the area too. Facebook me yo! On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 10:21:36 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: One thought about starting/ending in Randle... not sure we have many options for places to leave cars... especially if we go overnight. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there
I can't vouch for specific bike shops here in the N. CA. Bay Area because I don't spend much time in them, but the cycling diversity here is much better than it was 10-15 years ago. Along with the carbon wonder racers and motorcycles without motors, we have a plethora of commuters, cargo bikes, folders, Dutch Bikes, and even a few recumbents. Throw in the still-strong SS/fixie scene, and I'd say things are looking good, cool-bike-wise. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:24:48 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my go-to place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon race bikes with the handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two steel bikes, gunnars and surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this happening everywhere? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: That Pugsley
All the Surly FBs have rear-facing track ends, which I don't like at all. Only downside of an otherwise very cool bike. Looking at the Salsa Mukluk just because of the drop outs, although it's Al alloy which is not my preference. But yeah, the Krampus looks awesome! Cheers, David On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:54 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: Since I rarely ride snow, I would now get the *Krampus* (Surly), a 29er+ instead of a Pugs, but they just came out with them recently. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:42:12 AM UTC-7, Tonester wrote: I'm glad someone else brought this up, because I sure as hell wasn't going to out myself! When the fat bikes came out I thought what a truly ridiculous idea. Since then, I've seen all sorts of cool adventures on youtube (find the guys who fatbiked/kayaked in Alaska!) and have moved to a place where I have access to miles of creekbed with potato sized rocks (everything from fingerlings to bakers). I tried riding my bike with 2.0 tires and couldn't hack it. I'm going to try again with my bike with 2.4s - if that doesn't cut it a Puglsey is on the the shopping list. On Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:17:29 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Damn, another bike to add to the want list. I must try one. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.s...@gmail.com wrote: I can attest to the fact the Puglsey is more than for just snow; my only mtb bike: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fMVg3EEwiPc/UZepZUpkyZI/AFc/VyOUfWxiIiU/s1600/photo-6.JPG On Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:40:11 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: Sorry, readers, I didn't get a chance to ride it, since it was special ordered and the owner picked it up before this week's workday. But Steve is thinking of getting one for a floor model (as well as one or a few Long Haul Truckers, which have been selling well). 210 mm Q factor shudder. But if/when one comes in, I will try it and report. -- http://resumespecialties.com/**i**ndex.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.**com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-**UShttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.**com Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
