date:20130527

franklyn:

Thanks for the link.  Your route looks even more interesting.  For those of 
us out of the area, this stuff is like gold when planning a tour.  

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:18:45 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

 +1 on some pictures. While HWY 128 is OK and is on several brevet route to 
 the coast, as sort of a mendocino county native, I still prefer two roads 
 slightly north of HWY 128 starting in Ukiah. Obviously you will have to 
 pedal 27 additional miles to Ukiah, but both HWY 253 (Ukiah Boonville Road) 
 and Orr Springs Road have much lower level of car traffic, and both are 
 more scenic. Granted both have bigger climbs than HWY 128. Given how fast I 
 drive myself sometimes on HWY 128 on my way to the coast, I'd stay on the 
 two old stagecoach roads mentioned above. Here is a ride report I wrote 
 about a short tour my wife and I took last year from Ukiah to the coast: 
 http://bikegarage.blogspot.com/2012/06/memorial-weekend-mendocino-coast-bike.html

 best,
 Franklyn 
 Berkeley, CA

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:23:11 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:

 I rode my LongLow on a not-too-long and not-so-low tour last week, the 
 first time I've ridden that far, and stayed places overnight, by bicycle. 
 It looks like we did 340 miles, over six and a half days of riding, on a 
 mix of roads - some urban, some country lanes, and some coastal highway. 
 The bicycle performed very well, only one minor break, noted below. Weather 
 definitely cooperated, it was warm but not enervatingly hot, and the 
 headwinds we pushed through near the coast turned into tailwinds once we 
 turned south. The route was from Berkeley, into Napa, Calistoga, 
 Healdsburg, Cloverdale over to Boonville, out to the coast along the 
 Navarro river, then south back into Marin and San Francisco: 
 http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2183399

 Some comments on gear: The Nitto Noodles (46) gave me more and better 
 hand positions on the long days, than the M-bars I've been using for as 
 long as I can remember on all my bikes. I got them pretty closely set just 
 before the ride, and bar tape and shellac went on the night before we left. 
 I found and used all the hand positions, and didn't get any numbness. 
 Tektro interruptors worked great.

 Carrying my off-bike clothes, toolkit, first-aid kit, and toiletries in 
 the large shopsack atop a basic Nitto rear rack (in a basket) made for 
 great access and easy carriage into homes/motels, but it also caught the 
 wind, and made the bike feel generally top-heavy. It also seemed to induce 
 immediate wobble/shimmy if I took my hands off the bars, even when moving 
 from drops to hoods. I'm going to get some Ortlieb dry sacks, and a larger 
 rack, for the next long ride.

 I noticed a hanging flap of rubber on the rear JB (green) the morning we 
 were too take off - the threads were visible but not torn. I decided to 
 ride on, and deal with either a carcass repair or a new tire when we rode 
 past an open shop. I did get a new tire in St. Helena, but never mounted 
 it, the JB is doing fine, and held pressure the entire trip. Those tires 
 just roll and roll...

 The only breakdown was the seat binder bolt. The two faces of the binder 
 are not quite parallel (frame was built in 1998 by Joe Starck) and it looks 
 like the bolt was flexing when turned and experienced final fracture in St. 
 Helena when I was adjusting my seat. Thankfully, the town's bike shop was 
 open and they had a bolt and nut that fit. I think a convex washer  cup 
 could help the bolt have a straight shot to the nut.

 And speaking of, this was the first time I used bag balm - wow, it's 
 fantastic. No chafing, no sore spots, a perfect combination with merino 
 wool skivvies under thin nylon shorts. I don't know why I resisted it for 
 so long...

 All told, it was great much fun to ride day on day for a week. I got 
 melancholy taking BART back at the end, but look forward to more long 
 rides. Maybe even some camping.

 - Andrew, Berkeley



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Re: [RBW] Re: A fun first tour

There are a lot of good roads to the coast in Mendocino. Philo Greenwood
Road (from Philo, on 128, to Elk, on Highway 1) is also a big winner. If
you're staying in the town of Mendocino, you can make a nice loop with
Comptche Ukiah Road, Flynn Creek,  a little bit of 128, stop at Navarro
Winery, Philo Greenwood Road, and back up the coast to Mendocino.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:18 AM, franklyn sini...@msn.com wrote:

 +1 on some pictures. While HWY 128 is OK and is on several brevet route to
 the coast, as sort of a mendocino county native, I still prefer two roads
 slightly north of HWY 128 starting in Ukiah. Obviously you will have to
 pedal 27 additional miles to Ukiah, but both HWY 253 (Ukiah Boonville Road)
 and Orr Springs Road have much lower level of car traffic, and both are
 more scenic. Granted both have bigger climbs than HWY 128. Given how fast I
 drive myself sometimes on HWY 128 on my way to the coast, I'd stay on the
 two old stagecoach roads mentioned above. Here is a ride report I wrote
 about a short tour my wife and I took last year from Ukiah to the coast:
 http://bikegarage.blogspot.com/2012/06/memorial-weekend-mendocino-coast-bike.html

 best,
 Franklyn
 Berkeley, CA


 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:23:11 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:

 I rode my LongLow on a not-too-long and not-so-low tour last week, the
 first time I've ridden that far, and stayed places overnight, by bicycle.
 It looks like we did 340 miles, over six and a half days of riding, on a
 mix of roads - some urban, some country lanes, and some coastal highway.
 The bicycle performed very well, only one minor break, noted below. Weather
 definitely cooperated, it was warm but not enervatingly hot, and the
 headwinds we pushed through near the coast turned into tailwinds once we
 turned south. The route was from Berkeley, into Napa, Calistoga,
 Healdsburg, Cloverdale over to Boonville, out to the coast along the
 Navarro river, then south back into Marin and San Francisco:
 http://ridewithgps.com/routes/**2183399http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2183399

 Some comments on gear: The Nitto Noodles (46) gave me more and better
 hand positions on the long days, than the M-bars I've been using for as
 long as I can remember on all my bikes. I got them pretty closely set just
 before the ride, and bar tape and shellac went on the night before we left.
 I found and used all the hand positions, and didn't get any numbness.
 Tektro interruptors worked great.

 Carrying my off-bike clothes, toolkit, first-aid kit, and toiletries in
 the large shopsack atop a basic Nitto rear rack (in a basket) made for
 great access and easy carriage into homes/motels, but it also caught the
 wind, and made the bike feel generally top-heavy. It also seemed to induce
 immediate wobble/shimmy if I took my hands off the bars, even when moving
 from drops to hoods. I'm going to get some Ortlieb dry sacks, and a larger
 rack, for the next long ride.

 I noticed a hanging flap of rubber on the rear JB (green) the morning we
 were too take off - the threads were visible but not torn. I decided to
 ride on, and deal with either a carcass repair or a new tire when we rode
 past an open shop. I did get a new tire in St. Helena, but never mounted
 it, the JB is doing fine, and held pressure the entire trip. Those tires
 just roll and roll...

 The only breakdown was the seat binder bolt. The two faces of the binder
 are not quite parallel (frame was built in 1998 by Joe Starck) and it looks
 like the bolt was flexing when turned and experienced final fracture in St.
 Helena when I was adjusting my seat. Thankfully, the town's bike shop was
 open and they had a bolt and nut that fit. I think a convex washer  cup
 could help the bolt have a straight shot to the nut.

 And speaking of, this was the first time I used bag balm - wow, it's
 fantastic. No chafing, no sore spots, a perfect combination with merino
 wool skivvies under thin nylon shorts. I don't know why I resisted it for
 so long...

 All told, it was great much fun to ride day on day for a week. I got
 melancholy taking BART back at the end, but look forward to more long
 rides. Maybe even some camping.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: A fun first tour

2013-05-27 Thread BSWP

Yes, here are the few pictures that we managed to get with my buddy's 
blackberry:

http://diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/May-Ride/

And I appreciate the tips on other routes. We planned this as a basic 
simple loop on main roads. Looking back, even though we rode 128 on 
weekdays, after the local rush hour was over, there's not much shoulder 
on most stretches and the logging trucks come quite close. I've ridden many 
of the backroads by motorcycle, and will focus on those for the next ride. 
I think, too, we'll try King Ridge instead of Highway 1, from Stewart's 
Point down to Cazadero.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:18:45 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

 +1 on some pictures. While HWY 128 is OK and is on several brevet route to 
 the coast, as sort of a mendocino county native, I still prefer two roads 
 slightly north of HWY 128 starting in Ukiah. Obviously you will have to 
 pedal 27 additional miles to Ukiah, but both HWY 253 (Ukiah Boonville Road) 
 and Orr Springs Road have much lower level of car traffic, and both are 
 more scenic. Granted both have bigger climbs than HWY 128. Given how fast I 
 drive myself sometimes on HWY 128 on my way to the coast, I'd stay on the 
 two old stagecoach roads mentioned above. Here is a ride report I wrote 
 about a short tour my wife and I took last year from Ukiah to the coast: 
 http://bikegarage.blogspot.com/2012/06/memorial-weekend-mendocino-coast-bike.html

 best,
 Franklyn 
 Berkeley, CA



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[RBW] Re: Freddie Hoffman wisdom



 They were just starting to scratch the surface of all that info he has 
 about riding but then would move right on to other topics. Too bad it was 
 just a short tv interview.

I think he would have so much to offer to all kinds of cyclists.
One thing about long distance riding and touring is logistics. What do you 
do if this happens? , or what do you do if that happens? and  I think 
Freddie must be a rich source info about how to get yourself through a tour 
or other riding.
 
I bet he could make a great living doing bike touring seminars. Or have his 
own bike touring school, so people could learn a lot before heading out 
into the unknown. I bet it would save people a lot of trouble on their 
trips and make their riding a whole lot more fun and safe.
I am impressed by his economy of motion. He sits so still on the bike. I 
flop all over the place just trying to get my lightly loaded bike cruising 
along.

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Re: [RBW] Re: A fun first tour

King Ridge is FANTASTIC! But it's steep, steep, steep in there.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 9:43 AM, BSWP ashtab...@gmail.com wrote:

Yes, here are the few pictures that we managed to get with my buddy's
blackberry:

http://diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/May-Ride/

And I appreciate the tips on other routes. We planned this as a basic
simple loop on main roads. Looking back, even though we rode 128 on
weekdays, after the local rush hour was over, there's not much shoulder
on most stretches and the logging trucks come quite close. I've ridden many
of the backroads by motorcycle, and will focus on those for the next ride.
I think, too, we'll try King Ridge instead of Highway 1, from Stewart's
Point down to Cazadero.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:18:45 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

+1 on some pictures. While HWY 128 is OK and is on several brevet route
to the coast, as sort of a mendocino county native, I still prefer two
roads slightly north of HWY 128 starting in Ukiah. Obviously you will have
to pedal 27 additional miles to Ukiah, but both HWY 253 (Ukiah Boonville
Road) and Orr Springs Road have much lower level of car traffic, and both
are more scenic. Granted both have bigger climbs than HWY 128. Given how
fast I drive myself sometimes on HWY 128 on my way to the coast, I'd stay
on the two old stagecoach roads mentioned above. Here is a ride report I
wrote about a short tour my wife and I took last year from Ukiah to the
coast: http://bikegarage.blogspot.**com/2012/06/memorial-weekend-**
mendocino-coast-bike.htmlhttp://bikegarage.blogspot.com/2012/06/memorial-weekend-mendocino-coast-bike.html

best,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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[RBW] FS: Quickbeam, 64cm, orange, F/F/HS

2013-05-27 Thread David Sprunger

Hi. I thought I’d offer this frame here before going to ebay.

Quickbeam frame/fork/headset.  64 cm. Orange. The taller sizes are hard to
find these days.  Some light beausage but nothing serious. Decals are all
in good shape. Never wrecked.  $925, includes US shipping.  Discounts for
cash and/or local pickup in Fargo.

Here are some pictures from when the bike was built up:
http://www.cord.edu/faculty/sprunger/bikes/qb/

Thanks,

David Sprunger

Fargo, ND

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clement MSO 40mm 60 tpi on a Hunq

Christian, thanks for that link. Something right around 40mm is spot on for
me (although I wish I could fit larger).

Cheers,
David



On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 7:09 AM, Christian
christian.w.mcmil...@gmail.comwrote:

 David,

 From the Black Mountain Cycles blog, where I first read about them: They
 measured 38.5mm on a 24mm wide rim and 37mm on a 20mm wide rim.  Here's
 the link to a nice write up:
 http://www.blackmtncycles.com/2012/06/tale-of-two-tires-part-2.html. And
 comparing to BG Rock n Road:
 http://www.blackmtncycles.com/2012/07/been-long-time.html.  Great blog,
 by the way for those who don't know about it.

 Mike: they're the 60 tip version.

 Best wishes,

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[RBW] Re: Alba vs. Bosco



 I think I will try the Alba's first and see if that does the trick.

 
I am looking forward to riding upright. Especially in winter. I wear street 
clothes to ride and sitting upright would help me so the sweaters and 
jacket don't bunch up between my thighs and belly. 

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Re: [RBW] Rocky Point Rd ramble.

2013-05-27 Thread Mike Schiller

no long climbs down here  David...have your tried the ride up to Big Bear 
or Angeles Crest or Baldy.  Even down here at Mt Laguna? Plenty long, even 
with low gears.  

~mike

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:40:58 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I nice ride you put together. Looks like a little bit of everything in it. 
 I've come to enjoy climbing, although there are no really long ones out 
 here. Just slow down, gear down and spin.

 Cheers,
 David



 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:

 Woke up early this morning and headed out with Rocky Point Rd on my mind. 
 After a stop for coffee in St Johns I headed across the bridge and onto Hwy 
 30 for some miles (10? 15?) to the bottom of Rocky Point Rd. Traffic on 30 
 wasn't bad. There was the usual collection of debris on the shoulder and a 
 long stretch of rough pavement which is getting prepared for resurfacing 
 but wasn't really an issue given my 35mm Schwalbe Supremes.

 I started heading up Rocky Point Rd and thinking about the first time I 
 rode it, maybe 6 and a half years ago. I was on my Lemond with a low gear 
 of 39/25 and was wearing bibs and on SPDs. I had no idea what to expect 
 from the climb and wasn't looking forward to it at all. Today I was wearing 
 some shorts, wool t-shirt and platform pedals. My low gear on my Hilsen is 
 26/28. I rode the first third of the climb in 36/28 which was fine but 
 there's a spot where the road cranks up and I dropped into my granny, 
 slowed down and just took in the scenery which is a mixture of clearcut and 
 dense forest. The road gets very little traffic so it's quite a pleasant 
 climb.

 I've really grown to love climbing. When I lived in SF and would head out 
 with friends to ride Bolinas Ridge I was always somewhat anxious as I 
 struggle on the climbs, yo-yoing off the back hoping I wouldn't get dropped 
 to hard. I moved up here, started doing a lot of riding by myself, got 
 turned onto Rivendell and learned to appreciate low gearing and a leisurely 
 pace. I actually wish the Rocky Point Climb was longer. 

 In an effort to enjoy the climb a little more I pulled onto one of the 
 logging roads and explored a couple of arteries. Nothing seemed to offer an 
 alternative route back to Rocky Point Rd but I did discover some nice 
 singletrack which I'll explore sometime soon in the future. 

 I made my way back to Rocky Point Rd and continued the climb up to the 
 top where it connects with Skyline Blvd, a nice quiet stretch of rolling 
 road. If I had had more time I would have ventured over to Dixie Mtn for 
 some gravel rambling but I needed to be home so I headed back to Portland, 
 dropping off of Skyline at Logie Trail which offers a fast steep twisty 
 descent. Logie Trail is quite narrow and the pavement is in bad shape. 
 Making the descent even more treacherous was a fair amount of gravel spread 
 across the road, I guess in an attempt to patch potholes. I made it down 
 without incident and headed back to Portland, stopping at a 7-11 for some 
 V8 and snacks as I was feeling a bonk coming on. 

 I'm really glad I got out for this ride and did a little exploring. 
 Here's some pictures:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633719837295/

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Re: [RBW] 67 cm A Homer Hilsen FS

2013-05-27 Thread David McCulloch

Thanks for the emails. A sale is pending on the AHH and Phil Wheel set.  I'll 
post some other stuff for sale soon, on my Flickr site, including a grey check 
half-loaf Sackville bag, $95.

Thanks,
David

On May 25, 2013, at 5:14 PM, davidmcc bikem...@olympus.net wrote:

 I have a lightly used 67cm AHH for sale. Love the bike but I have to let this 
 one go. I bought it from Riv in 2010. I love the bike but have to down size 
 at this point, my loss and the next tall guy's gain. Never crashed, not 
 ridden hard, most parts new at time of purchase, campy shifters are older but 
 work fine. I love what Rivendell creates but need to cut down to two bikes at 
 this time of my life.
 
 Here is a link to several pictures and I can send more if you would like some 
 more,  http://www.flickr.com/photos/d7mcc/
 
 Waterford built 67cm AHH frame, some chain suck on BB shell and a few paint 
 dings but minor
 Mark's front rack, plus I have all the factory issued stays and parts, if you 
 want to mount it on the rear.
 Silver brake set
 Orange velo 45cm hammered fenders
 Sugino 48-36-24, 175mm cranks
 Synchros seatpost and handlebars
 Campy Chorus Ergo 8spd 
 Campy Rear Racing Triple derailer with Avid shift mate
 Campy Mirage Front derailer
 Original Riv Bike box to ship the bike to you.
 
 As most of us have, I mixed and matched parts for my different desires at 
 different times. The Campy 8spd Chorus Ergo, shifts nicely and work fine and 
 can be rebuilt (down the road) as opposed to Shimano brifters. 
 
 Asking $1,900 plus shipping for the above, I have over $2,600 in parts at 
 time of purchase invested (not including shifters, seatpost, handlebars, 
 etc.). New frame is now $2,300. Any questions or offers, just let me know, I 
 want this bike to find a good home, it's fun to ride. Us tall guys are well 
 serviced by Rivendell.
 
 I'm new to this oneline selling business and have more stuff to shed, such as 
 a Sackville half-loaf bag, and other bike hardware. I'll keep posting 
 pictures to my Flickr site.
 
 I ran different wheel sets including an older OpenPro 32 spoke PhilWood 8 spd 
 freewheel rear and std PhilWood front most recently as well as an OpenPro 
 Schmidt front generator setup as seen in one of the pictures. I'm open to 
 discussion about these other parts to an interested party.
 
 Thanks,
 David
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Some details on the midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally

2013-05-27 Thread Sean Cleary

Doug,

I sent you a message about this. Looking forward to the ride!

Sean

On Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:59:24 PM UTC-5, Doug M wrote:

 I'll be driving from St Paul to Preston on Friday afternoon and riding 
 from there to Forestville to camp for the night.  I'll break camp Sunday AM 
 and ride back to Preston to drop off the camping gear and ride for the 
 day.  Returning to St Paul late Sunday afternoon when the rally is over.  I 
 have room for one other bike, rider and their gear if anyone is interested.
  
 On Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:44:23 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
 wrote:

 I want to offer a bit of detail about what this year's country bike rally 
 participants can expect. 

 We will be following the general course, if not the exact route, of the 
 Almanzo 100, over two days of riding. Almanzo cue sheets, last I checked, 
 were available for download. The Almanzo course is mostly gravel, which can 
 be highly variable between smooth and pavement-like to gnarly loose gravel 
 with potholes. The terrain is quite hilly by Midwestern standards, but 
 splitting the route into 2 days and taking a leisurely pace should make it 
 less of an ordeal. Weather, as always, will be a factor. It's certain that 
 bikes will get dirty, and possible that rocks will chip the paint. That's 
 life. 

 We will ride as a group and regroup as needed when we get separated by 
 hills or whatever. That said, this is a ride at your own risk situation. 
 Any participant is free to opt out for any reason, but there is no 
 support car to pick you up if that happens. Hopefully we can support each 
 other and all have a good ride without incident. But stuff happens, and 
 every rider should accept the inherent risks and have some kind of backup 
 plan. 

 We will pass through a couple small towns where we may be able to eat in 
 cafes and get groceries. But for the most part, plan to have the day's 
 food/water on the bike. 

 Any other questions? 



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[RBW] Re: Another Albatross Question

2013-05-27 Thread Kieran J

To echo Garth's comment, I'm not sure where the rust would set in. It's a 
pretty seamless with no welds or crevices for corrosion to build up.
I have a set of the CroMo Alba's and they are nice. I guess the idea is 
they provide slightly more shock absorption than the Alu ones.

KJ

 

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:48:40 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:


 Just because it is CroMo , does not mean it will rust anymore than just 
 because it's Al it will break !  

 Either or is fine and will last a long time. If one lives and/or stores a 
 bike in a wet environment,or just worried about it,  get a Al version. Or 
 apply Boeshield or FrameSaver in the steel bars. The steel ones are not raw 
 CroMo like frame steel anyways, there is a surface coating on them. The 
 ends are always filled with shifters, plugs or brake levers anyways, so 
 where is the moisture going to come from ? Nowhere ! 


 Other reasons ?  Steel vs. Al ride and feel characteristics , which are 
 subjective to the the rider and need no justification. 




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[RBW] Re: Wisconsin Shops

2013-05-27 Thread jim

If you get to Madison, there is alot to see at Budget Bicycle Center  
http://budgetbicyclectr.com/ 

http://budgetbicyclectr.com/used-bicycle-showroom-museum

(Disclaimer: I have wrenched there Saturdays for 25 years. I try to give 
great customer service, not sure if I always succeed.)

Jim
 





On Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:55:10 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:

 My wife and I will be spending a few days in Wisconsin next month, mostly 
 in Milwaukee and Sheboygan, and I wonder if anyone has recommendations for 
 interesting, Riv-ish bike shops that I could visit. 

 Eric N 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Wisconsin Shops

2013-05-27 Thread David Hays

After a brief phone conversation and photo, I sent my bent XO-5 fork to Yellow 
Jersey. 
They did a perfect job reasonably with unbelievably quick turnaround and good 
return packing.
David


On May 27, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Will waller.will...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yellow Jersey is hit or miss. I had a damaged frame re-aligned there. Work 
 was excellent. 
 
 Other times not so much.
 
 Last experience was with a mech who sported metal in his nose, ears, lips, 
 and eyebrows. It was disconcerting to have a simple conversation.There was so 
 much metal in his face. 
 
 Did things end well? 
 
 No.
 
 I wanted the cotter pins pulled from an old Raleigh Sport so I could work on 
 the bottom bracket. I got a safety lecture instead. The lecture was stupid 
 and arrogant. The shop owner sat beside his laptop and laughed at us. 
 
 Have not been back. 
 
 Will
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Monday, May 27, 2013 9:03:49 AM UTC-5, BykMor wrote:
 I've not been there, but if you're near by, check out Coast In Bikes at 706 S 
 5th St, Milwaukee ( http://www.coastinbikes.com/ ). The owners are nice young 
 folk. I don't know what Riv'ish stuff they might have in stock, but they're 
 definitely not a techy race shop.
 
 And I think the treatment is a reason to visit Yellow Jersey. It's part of 
 the experience. I've been told a few stories that have happened at that shop 
 over the years and I'd kind of like to have one of my own ;-) Actually, it's 
 probably not nearly as likely to happen these days.
 
 Have a great visit.
 
 BykMor  
 
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 My wife and I will be spending a few days in Wisconsin next month, mostly in 
 Milwaukee and Sheboygan, and I wonder if anyone has recommendations for 
 interesting, Riv-ish bike shops that I could visit. 
 
 Eric N 
 www.CampyOnly.com 
 CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com 
 Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
 
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[RBW] Re: Freddie Hoffman wisdom

2013-05-27 Thread Paul Brodek

Hmmm, maybe my first post here, finally own an actual Riv, know many of you 
from ibob  CR. Maybe I'll do an intro later, dashing this off quickly 
before leaving for a family BBQ.

Freddie is one of my heroes, local to me. I wrenched some of his bikes back 
in the day, maybe before they were Ruth E? We might have done a frame-over 
for him after he killed one, almost 30yrs ago now, hard to remember 
precisely. He used to go on club rides with us, charmingly annoying to be 
gasping for breath up a hill with Freddie next to you, spinning like he was 
on flatland, talking a mile a minute without breaking a sweat and breathing 
like he was sitting in a comfy chair. Freddie doesn't/can't use helmets, 
had to leave the club for that reason, kinda sad but that's what liability 
insurance forces you to do.

I see him once or twice a year now, when he's looking for camera stuff or 
finds an old roll of film at home he needs processed. I try to make sure to 
take some piccies.

I tried to attach two pix from '09-'10, but they were too large. I probably 
have more recent shots, will look for them later. I just put a small flickr 
set of the '09-'10 pix, here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633740446134/

Have fun and ride safe, y'all!

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA
  

On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:48:44 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 Funny in the video how the interviewer said this isn't a $1000 bike you 
 built it. Shows the general public perception of bicycles and their 
 worth/value. 

 Thanks for this thread as I hadn't heard of Freddy before and I must say 
 he's inspiring.

 Best,

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:47:35 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I have seen alotta articles talking about him.
  
 But has anyone seen any interviews where he talks about gear and what he 
 likes and doesn't like. Or advice for riding, etc? I read a limited thing 
 about his gear in a RivReader.
  
 Seems like a guy who has ridden more than anyone else on the planet would 
 be having his brain picked by people for gear insights and safety advice, 
 etc.



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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Atlantis f/f/hs 56cm

2013-05-27 Thread a w


On Friday, May 3, 2013 2:49:15 PM UTC-4, a w wrote:

 Selling 56cm Atlantis frame, fork and headset. Very good condition. No 
 dents, dings or rust. A few touched up spots. Asking $1400 shipped in the 
 continental US. Pics available by email if your interested. Thanks, Art

 
 Finally a picture! Price reduced to $1250 plus shipping in the Continental 
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[RBW] Re: Clement MSO 40mm 60 tpi on a Hunq

2013-05-27 Thread Mike Schiller

David, just gotta take the plunge and get that Dirtbomb you've been 
dreamin' about!

~mike

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Re: [RBW] Rocky Point Rd ramble.

Palomar, Glendora Mtn Rd, Acton to Mt Gleason, plenty of climbing around 
here.  3 of us did Julian down to Alpine (?)  back up Mt Laguna a couple 
of years ago.  Tougher on the bike than on the computer.  Oh, Montezuma 
Grade, Borrego Springs to Julian.  Gotta get David out of his ZIP code more 
often.

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 11:14:39 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 no long climbs down here  David...have your tried the ride up to Big Bear 
 or Angeles Crest or Baldy.  Even down here at Mt Laguna? Plenty long, even 
 with low gears.  

 ~mike

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:40:58 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I nice ride you put together. Looks like a little bit of everything in 
 it. I've come to enjoy climbing, although there are no really long ones out 
 here. Just slow down, gear down and spin.

 Cheers,
 David



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 Woke up early this morning and headed out with Rocky Point Rd on my 
 mind. After a stop for coffee in St Johns I headed across the bridge and 
 onto Hwy 30 for some miles (10? 15?) to the bottom of Rocky Point Rd. 
 Traffic on 30 wasn't bad. There was the usual collection of debris on the 
 shoulder and a long stretch of rough pavement which is getting prepared for 
 resurfacing but wasn't really an issue given my 35mm Schwalbe Supremes.

 I started heading up Rocky Point Rd and thinking about the first time I 
 rode it, maybe 6 and a half years ago. I was on my Lemond with a low gear 
 of 39/25 and was wearing bibs and on SPDs. I had no idea what to expect 
 from the climb and wasn't looking forward to it at all. Today I was wearing 
 some shorts, wool t-shirt and platform pedals. My low gear on my Hilsen is 
 26/28. I rode the first third of the climb in 36/28 which was fine but 
 there's a spot where the road cranks up and I dropped into my granny, 
 slowed down and just took in the scenery which is a mixture of clearcut and 
 dense forest. The road gets very little traffic so it's quite a pleasant 
 climb.

 I've really grown to love climbing. When I lived in SF and would head 
 out with friends to ride Bolinas Ridge I was always somewhat anxious as I 
 struggle on the climbs, yo-yoing off the back hoping I wouldn't get dropped 
 to hard. I moved up here, started doing a lot of riding by myself, got 
 turned onto Rivendell and learned to appreciate low gearing and a leisurely 
 pace. I actually wish the Rocky Point Climb was longer. 

 In an effort to enjoy the climb a little more I pulled onto one of the 
 logging roads and explored a couple of arteries. Nothing seemed to offer an 
 alternative route back to Rocky Point Rd but I did discover some nice 
 singletrack which I'll explore sometime soon in the future. 

 I made my way back to Rocky Point Rd and continued the climb up to the 
 top where it connects with Skyline Blvd, a nice quiet stretch of rolling 
 road. If I had had more time I would have ventured over to Dixie Mtn for 
 some gravel rambling but I needed to be home so I headed back to Portland, 
 dropping off of Skyline at Logie Trail which offers a fast steep twisty 
 descent. Logie Trail is quite narrow and the pavement is in bad shape. 
 Making the descent even more treacherous was a fair amount of gravel spread 
 across the road, I guess in an attempt to patch potholes. I made it down 
 without incident and headed back to Portland, stopping at a 7-11 for some 
 V8 and snacks as I was feeling a bonk coming on. 

 I'm really glad I got out for this ride and did a little exploring. 
 Here's some pictures:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633719837295/

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[RBW] FS: Ritchey, Shimano parts, Riv bag, etc

2013-05-27 Thread Kieran J

 

Another round of sale items is nigh. North American shipping is included 
for each of the items listed below. Please reply off-list with questions or 
to set up a purchase.

Ritchey Logic Compact Double crankset – 46/30 rings, 94/58 BCD. 175mm. 
Large CODA ring is new, small Engagement Ring is slightly used. *$100 
shipped.*

Ritchey WCS Compact Crankset – 50/36 rings, 110 BCD. 170mm. Rings are well 
used, but still going strong. Non-driveside arm was replaced by the recall, 
and works fine. Includes a 68x109.5mm Ultegra Octalink BB, also working 
great. *$70 shipped.*

Shimano 600/Ultegra 6500 1” threaded headset. Brand new/NOS. In box. *$70 
shipped. *

Shimano UN71 BB. 73x113mm. Works great. *$30 shipped.*

Shimano 600 RD-6401 Tri-Color rear derailleur. Works great, some scuffs. *$35 
shipped. *

Shimano 600 FD-6207 front derailleur. Works great, some scuffs. *$25 
shipped.*

ACS Crossfire SS freewheel. 17t x 3/32” pitch. Works on 1/8” too. New in 
box. *$20 shipped. *

Rivendell Brand V Grabsack. Used but good shape. *$45 shipped.*

Pics herehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/70712473@N05/sets/72157632724094477/


Thanks!

Kieran

Toronto, Canada

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[RBW] Psychedelic Quickbeam

2013-05-27 Thread Eric Norris

Totally groovy photo from today's ride:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8857220387/ 

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[RBW] Re: Alba vs. Bosco

2013-05-27 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

I view the Bosco as sort of a specialty bar. It has so much rise and 
sweep-back that it either fixes a fit problem (why I got it) or you get a 
really upright position. The Alba is not so extreme. It's a really great 
bar that would work well on a lot of bikes. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Another Albatross Question

2013-05-27 Thread Peter Morgano

My cromo Bosco Bars came rusty on the inside, to be honest. I hit them with
framesaver , not sure what else I could do.
On May 27, 2013 2:28 PM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote:

 To echo Garth's comment, I'm not sure where the rust would set in. It's a
 pretty seamless with no welds or crevices for corrosion to build up.
 I have a set of the CroMo Alba's and they are nice. I guess the idea is
 they provide slightly more shock absorption than the Alu ones.

 KJ



 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 7:48:40 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:


 Just because it is CroMo , does not mean it will rust anymore than just
 because it's Al it will break !

 Either or is fine and will last a long time. If one lives and/or stores a
 bike in a wet environment,or just worried about it,  get a Al version. Or
 apply Boeshield or FrameSaver in the steel bars. The steel ones are not raw
 CroMo like frame steel anyways, there is a surface coating on them. The
 ends are always filled with shifters, plugs or brake levers anyways, so
 where is the moisture going to come from ? Nowhere !


 Other reasons ?  Steel vs. Al ride and feel characteristics , which are
 subjective to the the rider and need no justification.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Freddie Hoffman wisdom

2013-05-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Interesting up close news about Freddie; thanks. He's what is called
simple -- and I think that is a very good term since, beside its
privative meaning, it denotes a quality I've noticed in simple people,
that of the virtue of simplicity, precisely, that is, no guile -- no
interior division -- at-one-ment. I remember a little, middled-aged man
in old fashioned proletariat French working garb -- blackish-bron baggy,
worn wool suit, greyish shirt, scuffed black leather shoes -- with ragged
hair cut; short, ugly, poor, and unprepossessing;  obviously mentally at a
child's level. He used to turn up to mass at our little traditionalist
Latin chapel in a poor working area of Basseville in lower Quebec, this
back in the very early '80s when I was finishing my graduate studies at
Laval. His face and manner -- carriage and physiognomy -- were lighted with
a simple goodness that struck me then and the memory has remained. God
bless such people.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Paul Brodek pcb.ha...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmmm, maybe my first post here, finally own an actual Riv, know many of
 you from ibob  CR. Maybe I'll do an intro later, dashing this off quickly
 before leaving for a family BBQ.

 Freddie is one of my heroes, local to me. I wrenched some of his bikes
 back in the day, maybe before they were Ruth E? We might have done a
 frame-over for him after he killed one, almost 30yrs ago now, hard to
 remember precisely. He used to go on club rides with us, charmingly
 annoying to be gasping for breath up a hill with Freddie next to you,
 spinning like he was on flatland, talking a mile a minute without breaking
 a sweat and breathing like he was sitting in a comfy chair. Freddie
 doesn't/can't use helmets, had to leave the club for that reason, kinda sad
 but that's what liability insurance forces you to do.

 I see him once or twice a year now, when he's looking for camera stuff or
 finds an old roll of film at home he needs processed. I try to make sure to
 take some piccies.

 I tried to attach two pix from '09-'10, but they were too large. I
 probably have more recent shots, will look for them later. I just put a
 small flickr set of the '09-'10 pix, here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/sets/72157633740446134/

 Have fun and ride safe, y'all!

 Paul Brodek
 Hillsdale, NJ USA


 On Monday, May 27, 2013 12:48:44 AM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote:

 Funny in the video how the interviewer said this isn't a $1000 bike you
 built it. Shows the general public perception of bicycles and their
 worth/value.

 Thanks for this thread as I hadn't heard of Freddy before and I must say
 he's inspiring.

 Best,

 Hugh
 Sunland, CA

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:47:35 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 I have seen alotta articles talking about him.

 But has anyone seen any interviews where he talks about gear and what he
 likes and doesn't like. Or advice for riding, etc? I read a limited thing
 about his gear in a RivReader.

 Seems like a guy who has ridden more than anyone else on the planet
 would be having his brain picked by people for gear insights and safety
 advice, etc.

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Re: [RBW] Psychedelic Quickbeam

2013-05-27 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Ouch! My eyes hurt!

Patrick R. Crumb, where art thou? Moore

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 Totally groovy photo from today's ride:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8857220387/

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[RBW] FS: Very small long haul for someone not too tall. (+ the world's luckiest 10 year old)

2013-05-27 Thread iamkeith

Looks like a have a lightly used 42cm Surly Long Haul Trucker frame for 
sale, and thought I'd see if anyone here is interested.  As you probably 
know, this bike was based on the XO-1 and All Rounder designs.I 
recently bought this to build up for my 10 year old daughter, who has 
expressed a strong interest in doing some bike tours with me.  No dad 
in his right mind would pass up that opportunity, and this seemed like the 
perfect (if not the *only* suitable) bike 
 
 ...But, before I was able to gather many components, I found AND JUST WON 
a 42cm bridgestone XO-1 time capsule on ebay, that's complete and in good 
condition.   So the Long Haul Trucker has to go.  Awesome bike for someone 
just north or south of 5'-0 and, obviously, for younger riders.   This one 
is a couple of years old, in a nice steel blue/grey color.   I paid $300 + 
shipping for it, but will sell it to someone on the list for a loss.  $275 
shipped, or make an offer?  New frames alone go for $475 before 
shipping, and aren't as nice of a color.  
 
Includes frame/fork/headset/bottom bracket/brake hanger/canti brakes/seat 
post/post clamp. This size takes 26 wheels but, unlike the X0-1, it has 
135mm spacing, so any ol' rim-brake mountain bike wheel set will work.   
Long chainstays, so it might even work with 650b, though I have no 
evidence to base that on.   Great condition, with no dents, rust or even 
scratches to speak of.  Previous owner did a nice rivish twine wrap on the 
driveside chainstay and removed the decals for some reason  (I understand 
they're available from Surly, though).   If there seems to be any interest, 
I'll add some photos later.  Below are some links to info on the bike.  
Lots more via google search.
 
http://surlybikes.com/bikes/long_haul_trucker
 
http://www.tamiasoutside.com/practical-cycling/lht42/
 
 
 
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clement MSO 40mm 60 tpi on a Hunq

I know, I know, don't remind me... :-)

I think I could get by with a new fork for my custom, something that give
me another 5mm clearance. Then I could fit Rock n Roads and probably be
happy for at least another decade.

Could have used it today, but instead chose the open-wheeled roadster:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/8858729787/

Cheers,
David



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mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote:

 David, just gotta take the plunge and get that Dirtbomb you've been
 dreamin' about!

 ~mike

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[RBW] Re: Psychedelic Quickbeam

2013-05-27 Thread bwphoto

The mural's cool but I thought but  I thought I  was going to see a bike 
with a cool hippy paint job. ;)

On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:56:35 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:

 Totally groovy photo from today's ride:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8857220387/ 

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[RBW] Re: Rocky Point Rd ramble.

2013-05-27 Thread hsmitham

+1 Dig it. 

Doug's correct plenty of climbing down here. Thanks Mike for the 
inspiration. Jealous that looks like the perfect ride.

Best,

Hugh

On Monday, May 27, 2013 9:53:58 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 Dig it.

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:58:32 PM UTC-7, Mike wrote:

 Woke up early this morning and headed out with Rocky Point Rd on my mind. 
 After a stop for coffee in St Johns I headed across the bridge and onto Hwy 
 30 for some miles (10? 15?) to the bottom of Rocky Point Rd. Traffic on 30 
 wasn't bad. There was the usual collection of debris on the shoulder and a 
 long stretch of rough pavement which is getting prepared for resurfacing 
 but wasn't really an issue given my 35mm Schwalbe Supremes.

 I started heading up Rocky Point Rd and thinking about the first time I 
 rode it, maybe 6 and a half years ago. I was on my Lemond with a low gear 
 of 39/25 and was wearing bibs and on SPDs. I had no idea what to expect 
 from the climb and wasn't looking forward to it at all. Today I was wearing 
 some shorts, wool t-shirt and platform pedals. My low gear on my Hilsen is 
 26/28. I rode the first third of the climb in 36/28 which was fine but 
 there's a spot where the road cranks up and I dropped into my granny, 
 slowed down and just took in the scenery which is a mixture of clearcut and 
 dense forest. The road gets very little traffic so it's quite a pleasant 
 climb.

 I've really grown to love climbing. When I lived in SF and would head out 
 with friends to ride Bolinas Ridge I was always somewhat anxious as I 
 struggle on the climbs, yo-yoing off the back hoping I wouldn't get dropped 
 to hard. I moved up here, started doing a lot of riding by myself, got 
 turned onto Rivendell and learned to appreciate low gearing and a leisurely 
 pace. I actually wish the Rocky Point Climb was longer. 

 In an effort to enjoy the climb a little more I pulled onto one of the 
 logging roads and explored a couple of arteries. Nothing seemed to offer an 
 alternative route back to Rocky Point Rd but I did discover some nice 
 singletrack which I'll explore sometime soon in the future. 

 I made my way back to Rocky Point Rd and continued the climb up to the 
 top where it connects with Skyline Blvd, a nice quiet stretch of rolling 
 road. If I had had more time I would have ventured over to Dixie Mtn for 
 some gravel rambling but I needed to be home so I headed back to Portland, 
 dropping off of Skyline at Logie Trail which offers a fast steep twisty 
 descent. Logie Trail is quite narrow and the pavement is in bad shape. 
 Making the descent even more treacherous was a fair amount of gravel spread 
 across the road, I guess in an attempt to patch potholes. I made it down 
 without incident and headed back to Portland, stopping at a 7-11 for some 
 V8 and snacks as I was feeling a bonk coming on. 

 I'm really glad I got out for this ride and did a little exploring. 
 Here's some pictures:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633719837295/

 --mike



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[RBW] New shoes for the Atlantis

2013-05-27 Thread john muhl

After trying last summer and missing out I made sure to get at the front of 
the queue for the 2013 Super Motos. With 25/35 psi (and the accompanying 
cush) it's like riding a different bike and despite the plumpness they are 
quite zippy. Only trouble is that the rear slightly rubbed the 
kickstand…anyone know if a single legger would have a chance to fit?

http://goo.gl/0KZV7

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Re: [RBW] Rocky Point Rd ramble.

Yes, point taken. I mean long climbs that aren't 15% that I can actually
do!!! :-)

Cheers,
David

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

Palomar, Glendora Mtn Rd, Acton to Mt Gleason, plenty of climbing around
here. 3 of us did Julian down to Alpine (?) back up Mt Laguna a couple
of years ago. Tougher on the bike than on the computer. Oh, Montezuma
Grade, Borrego Springs to Julian. Gotta get David out of his ZIP code more
often.

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 11:14:39 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

no long climbs down here David...have your tried the ride up to Big Bear
or Angeles Crest or Baldy. Even down here at Mt Laguna? Plenty long, even
with low gears.

~mike

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:40:58 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

I nice ride you put together. Looks like a little bit of everything in
it. I've come to enjoy climbing, although there are no really long ones out
here. Just slow down, gear down and spin.

Cheers,
David

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com wrote:

Woke up early this morning and headed out with Rocky Point Rd on my
mind. After a stop for coffee in St Johns I headed across the bridge and
onto Hwy 30 for some miles (10? 15?) to the bottom of Rocky Point Rd.
Traffic on 30 wasn't bad. There was the usual collection of debris on the
shoulder and a long stretch of rough pavement which is getting prepared for
resurfacing but wasn't really an issue given my 35mm Schwalbe Supremes.

I started heading up Rocky Point Rd and thinking about the first time I
rode it, maybe 6 and a half years ago. I was on my Lemond with a low gear
of 39/25 and was wearing bibs and on SPDs. I had no idea what to expect
from the climb and wasn't looking forward to it at all. Today I was wearing
some shorts, wool t-shirt and platform pedals. My low gear on my Hilsen is
26/28. I rode the first third of the climb in 36/28 which was fine but
there's a spot where the road cranks up and I dropped into my granny,
slowed down and just took in the scenery which is a mixture of clearcut and
dense forest. The road gets very little traffic so it's quite a pleasant
climb.

I've really grown to love climbing. When I lived in SF and would head
out with friends to ride Bolinas Ridge I was always somewhat anxious as I
struggle on the climbs, yo-yoing off the back hoping I wouldn't get dropped
to hard. I moved up here, started doing a lot of riding by myself, got
turned onto Rivendell and learned to appreciate low gearing and a leisurely
pace. I actually wish the Rocky Point Climb was longer.

In an effort to enjoy the climb a little more I pulled onto one of the
logging roads and explored a couple of arteries. Nothing seemed to offer an
alternative route back to Rocky Point Rd but I did discover some nice
singletrack which I'll explore sometime soon in the future.

I made my way back to Rocky Point Rd and continued the climb up to the
top where it connects with Skyline Blvd, a nice quiet stretch of rolling
road. If I had had more time I would have ventured over to Dixie Mtn for
some gravel rambling but I needed to be home so I headed back to Portland,
dropping off of Skyline at Logie Trail which offers a fast steep twisty
descent. Logie Trail is quite narrow and the pavement is in bad shape.
Making the descent even more treacherous was a fair amount of gravel spread
across the road, I guess in an attempt to patch potholes. I made it down
without incident and headed back to Portland, stopping at a 7-11 for some
V8 and snacks as I was feeling a bonk coming on.

I'm really glad I got out for this ride and did a little exploring.
Here's some pictures:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/**41335973@N00/sets/**72157633719837295/http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633719837295/

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Re: [RBW] New shoes for the Atlantis

That's one tough looking 'Lantis! What do those shoes measure out to?

Cheers,
David



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 After trying last summer and missing out I made sure to get at the front
 of the queue for the 2013 Super Motos. With 25/35 psi (and the accompanying
 cush) it's like riding a different bike and despite the plumpness they are
 quite zippy. Only trouble is that the rear slightly rubbed the
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 http://goo.gl/0KZV7

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[RBW] Re: A fun first tour

2013-05-27 Thread hsmitham

Franklyn ,

I agree with you that the Hwy 253 is a good route to the coast via 
Bonneville/ Anderson Valley, Philo and along the Navarro river . It's an 
excellent route with low car traffic. Mendocino County has some great back 
roads with great scenery.. 

Andrew, thanks for the ride report. I'm looking forward to riding Mendo one 
of these days.

Best,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:18:45 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

 +1 on some pictures. While HWY 128 is OK and is on several brevet route to 
 the coast, as sort of a mendocino county native, I still prefer two roads 
 slightly north of HWY 128 starting in Ukiah. Obviously you will have to 
 pedal 27 additional miles to Ukiah, but both HWY 253 (Ukiah Boonville Road) 
 and Orr Springs Road have much lower level of car traffic, and both are 
 more scenic. Granted both have bigger climbs than HWY 128. Given how fast I 
 drive myself sometimes on HWY 128 on my way to the coast, I'd stay on the 
 two old stagecoach roads mentioned above. Here is a ride report I wrote 
 about a short tour my wife and I took last year from Ukiah to the coast: 
 http://bikegarage.blogspot.com/2012/06/memorial-weekend-mendocino-coast-bike.html

 best,
 Franklyn 
 Berkeley, CA

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:23:11 PM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:

 I rode my LongLow on a not-too-long and not-so-low tour last week, the 
 first time I've ridden that far, and stayed places overnight, by bicycle. 
 It looks like we did 340 miles, over six and a half days of riding, on a 
 mix of roads - some urban, some country lanes, and some coastal highway. 
 The bicycle performed very well, only one minor break, noted below. Weather 
 definitely cooperated, it was warm but not enervatingly hot, and the 
 headwinds we pushed through near the coast turned into tailwinds once we 
 turned south. The route was from Berkeley, into Napa, Calistoga, 
 Healdsburg, Cloverdale over to Boonville, out to the coast along the 
 Navarro river, then south back into Marin and San Francisco: 
 http://ridewithgps.com/routes/2183399

 Some comments on gear: The Nitto Noodles (46) gave me more and better 
 hand positions on the long days, than the M-bars I've been using for as 
 long as I can remember on all my bikes. I got them pretty closely set just 
 before the ride, and bar tape and shellac went on the night before we left. 
 I found and used all the hand positions, and didn't get any numbness. 
 Tektro interruptors worked great.

 Carrying my off-bike clothes, toolkit, first-aid kit, and toiletries in 
 the large shopsack atop a basic Nitto rear rack (in a basket) made for 
 great access and easy carriage into homes/motels, but it also caught the 
 wind, and made the bike feel generally top-heavy. It also seemed to induce 
 immediate wobble/shimmy if I took my hands off the bars, even when moving 
 from drops to hoods. I'm going to get some Ortlieb dry sacks, and a larger 
 rack, for the next long ride.

 I noticed a hanging flap of rubber on the rear JB (green) the morning we 
 were too take off - the threads were visible but not torn. I decided to 
 ride on, and deal with either a carcass repair or a new tire when we rode 
 past an open shop. I did get a new tire in St. Helena, but never mounted 
 it, the JB is doing fine, and held pressure the entire trip. Those tires 
 just roll and roll...

 The only breakdown was the seat binder bolt. The two faces of the binder 
 are not quite parallel (frame was built in 1998 by Joe Starck) and it looks 
 like the bolt was flexing when turned and experienced final fracture in St. 
 Helena when I was adjusting my seat. Thankfully, the town's bike shop was 
 open and they had a bolt and nut that fit. I think a convex washer  cup 
 could help the bolt have a straight shot to the nut.

 And speaking of, this was the first time I used bag balm - wow, it's 
 fantastic. No chafing, no sore spots, a perfect combination with merino 
 wool skivvies under thin nylon shorts. I don't know why I resisted it for 
 so long...

 All told, it was great much fun to ride day on day for a week. I got 
 melancholy taking BART back at the end, but look forward to more long 
 rides. Maybe even some camping.

 - Andrew, Berkeley



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[RBW] Re: FS: Very small long haul for someone not too tall. (+ the world's luckiest 10 year old)

2013-05-27 Thread Joe Bernard

I saw that XO-1. Nice find!

On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:37:14 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:

 Looks like a have a lightly used 42cm Surly Long Haul Trucker frame for 
 sale, and thought I'd see if anyone here is interested.  As you probably 
 know, this bike was based on the XO-1 and All Rounder designs.I 
 recently bought this to build up for my 10 year old daughter, who has 
 expressed a strong interest in doing some bike tours with me.  No dad 
 in his right mind would pass up that opportunity, and this seemed like the 
 perfect (if not the *only* suitable) bike 
  
  ...But, before I was able to gather many components, I found AND JUST WON 
 a 42cm bridgestone XO-1 time capsule on ebay, that's complete and in good 
 condition.   So the Long Haul Trucker has to go.  Awesome bike for someone 
 just north or south of 5'-0 and, obviously, for younger riders.   This one 
 is a couple of years old, in a nice steel blue/grey color.   I paid $300 + 
 shipping for it, but will sell it to someone on the list for a loss.  $275 
 shipped, or make an offer?  New frames alone go for $475 before 
 shipping, and aren't as nice of a color.  
  
 Includes frame/fork/headset/bottom bracket/brake hanger/canti brakes/seat 
 post/post clamp. This size takes 26 wheels but, unlike the X0-1, it has 
 135mm spacing, so any ol' rim-brake mountain bike wheel set will work.   
 Long chainstays, so it might even work with 650b, though I have no 
 evidence to base that on.   Great condition, with no dents, rust or even 
 scratches to speak of.  Previous owner did a nice rivish twine wrap on the 
 driveside chainstay and removed the decals for some reason  (I understand 
 they're available from Surly, though).   If there seems to be any interest, 
 I'll add some photos later.  Below are some links to info on the bike.  
 Lots more via google search.
  
 http://surlybikes.com/bikes/long_haul_trucker
  
 http://www.tamiasoutside.com/practical-cycling/lht42/
  
  
  
  


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[RBW] Re: FS: Very small long haul for someone not too tall. (+ the world's luckiest 10 year old)

2013-05-27 Thread iamkeith

Yeah, I'm psyched.  Totally random that I saw it.  Soon, I'll have the most 
stylish, 26-wheeled, bike touring family ever, with our purple XO-1, 
orange XO-1,  green All Rounder and  blue Rambouillet.
 
The other 55 cm XO-1 that sold along with this one, from the same seller, 
was the REALLY amazing one.  Never ridden, stored since new.

On Monday, May 27, 2013 5:30:59 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I saw that XO-1. Nice find!
  


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[RBW] Re: FS: Very small long haul for someone not too tall. (+ the world's luckiest 10 year old)

2013-05-27 Thread Ryan

Awesome...your daughter will have one of the coolest bikes ever 
designed...and designed to be riddenpost pictures,please!

(orange X0-1 and green all-rounder for 26 bikes)

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:45:46 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote:

 Yeah, I'm psyched.  Totally random that I saw it.  Soon, I'll have the 
 most stylish, 26-wheeled, bike touring family ever, with our purple XO-1, 
 orange XO-1,  green All Rounder and  blue Rambouillet.
  
 The other 55 cm XO-1 that sold along with this one, from the same seller, 
 was the REALLY amazing one.  Never ridden, stored since new.

 On Monday, May 27, 2013 5:30:59 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote:

 I saw that XO-1. Nice find!
  



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[RBW] Re: FS: Very small long haul for someone not too tall. (+ the world's luckiest 10 year old)

2013-05-27 Thread iamkeith



 Well, sorry.  Frame is sold.  (More interest than I thought there'd be.  
 All I can say is that bicyclists sure do make great parents!)


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Re: [RBW] Rocky Point Rd ramble.

Last summer I did Mt Laguna, Onyx Summit, the climb to Crestline and the
climb to Angeles Crest (Lone Pine) with full touring gear (not on the same
day, of course). I don't think any of them are 15%, or not for long anyway.
If you're not a fast climber, on a long climb you just have to get in Zen
mind and not worry about the top, because you know you won't be there for a
while.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

Yes, point taken. I mean long climbs that aren't 15% that I can actually
do!!! :-)

Cheers,
David

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 11:14:39 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

no long climbs down here David...have your tried the ride up to Big
Bear or Angeles Crest or Baldy. Even down here at Mt Laguna? Plenty long,
even with low gears.

~mike

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:40:58 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

I nice ride you put together. Looks like a little bit of everything in
it. I've come to enjoy climbing, although there are no really long ones out
here. Just slow down, gear down and spin.

Cheers,
David

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com wrote:

Woke up early this morning and headed out with Rocky Point Rd on my
mind. After a stop for coffee in St Johns I headed across the bridge and
onto Hwy 30 for some miles (10? 15?) to the bottom of Rocky Point Rd.
Traffic on 30 wasn't bad. There was the usual collection of debris on the
shoulder and a long stretch of rough pavement which is getting prepared
for
resurfacing but wasn't really an issue given my 35mm Schwalbe Supremes.

I started heading up Rocky Point Rd and thinking about the first time
I rode it, maybe 6 and a half years ago. I was on my Lemond with a low
gear
of 39/25 and was wearing bibs and on SPDs. I had no idea what to expect
from the climb and wasn't looking forward to it at all. Today I was
wearing
some shorts, wool t-shirt and platform pedals. My low gear on my Hilsen is
26/28. I rode the first third of the climb in 36/28 which was fine but
there's a spot where the road cranks up and I dropped into my granny,
slowed down and just took in the scenery which is a mixture of clearcut
and
dense forest. The road gets very little traffic so it's quite a pleasant
climb.

I've really grown to love climbing. When I lived in SF and would head
out with friends to ride Bolinas Ridge I was always somewhat anxious as I
struggle on the climbs, yo-yoing off the back hoping I wouldn't get
dropped
to hard. I moved up here, started doing a lot of riding by myself, got
turned onto Rivendell and learned to appreciate low gearing and a
leisurely
pace. I actually wish the Rocky Point Climb was longer.

In an effort to enjoy the climb a little more I pulled onto one of the
logging roads and explored a couple of arteries. Nothing seemed to offer
an
alternative route back to Rocky Point Rd but I did discover some nice
singletrack which I'll explore sometime soon in the future.

I made my way back to Rocky Point Rd and continued the climb up to the
top where it connects with Skyline Blvd, a nice quiet stretch of rolling
road. If I had had more time I would have ventured over to Dixie Mtn for
some gravel rambling but I needed to be home so I headed back to Portland,
dropping off of Skyline at Logie Trail which offers a fast steep twisty
descent. Logie Trail is quite narrow and the pavement is in bad shape.
Making the descent even more treacherous was a fair amount of gravel
spread
across the road, I guess in an attempt to patch potholes. I made it down
without incident and headed back to Portland, stopping at a 7-11 for some
V8 and snacks as I was feeling a bonk coming on.

I'm really glad I got out for this ride and did a little exploring.
Here's some pictures:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/**41335973@N00/sets/**72157633719837295/http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633719837295/

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Re: [RBW] Rocky Point Rd ramble.

I stand in awe...

Cheers,
David

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote:

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

Yes, point taken. I mean long climbs that aren't 15% that I can actually
do!!! :-)

Cheers,
David

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 11:14:39 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

no long climbs down here David...have your tried the ride up to Big
Bear or Angeles Crest or Baldy. Even down here at Mt Laguna? Plenty long,
even with low gears.

~mike

On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:40:58 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

I nice ride you put together. Looks like a little bit of everything in
it. I've come to enjoy climbing, although there are no really long ones
out
here. Just slow down, gear down and spin.

Cheers,
David

On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com wrote:

Woke up early this morning and headed out with Rocky Point Rd on my
mind. After a stop for coffee in St Johns I headed across the bridge and
onto Hwy 30 for some miles (10? 15?) to the bottom of Rocky Point Rd.
Traffic on 30 wasn't bad. There was the usual collection of debris on the
shoulder and a long stretch of rough pavement which is getting prepared
for
resurfacing but wasn't really an issue given my 35mm Schwalbe Supremes.

I started heading up Rocky Point Rd and thinking about the first time
I rode it, maybe 6 and a half years ago. I was on my Lemond with a low
gear
of 39/25 and was wearing bibs and on SPDs. I had no idea what to expect
from the climb and wasn't looking forward to it at all. Today I was
wearing
some shorts, wool t-shirt and platform pedals. My low gear on my Hilsen
is
26/28. I rode the first third of the climb in 36/28 which was fine but
there's a spot where the road cranks up and I dropped into my granny,
slowed down and just took in the scenery which is a mixture of clearcut
and
dense forest. The road gets very little traffic so it's quite a pleasant
climb.

I've really grown to love climbing. When I lived in SF and would head
out with friends to ride Bolinas Ridge I was always somewhat anxious as I
struggle on the climbs, yo-yoing off the back hoping I wouldn't get
dropped
to hard. I moved up here, started doing a lot of riding by myself, got
turned onto Rivendell and learned to appreciate low gearing and a
leisurely
pace. I actually wish the Rocky Point Climb was longer.

In an effort to enjoy the climb a little more I pulled onto one of
the logging roads and explored a couple of arteries. Nothing seemed to
offer an alternative route back to Rocky Point Rd but I did discover some
nice singletrack which I'll explore sometime soon in the future.

I made my way back to Rocky Point Rd and continued the climb up to
the top where it connects with Skyline Blvd, a nice quiet stretch of
rolling road. If I had had more time I would have ventured over to Dixie
Mtn for some gravel rambling but I needed to be home so I headed back to
Portland, dropping off of Skyline at Logie Trail which offers a fast
steep
twisty descent. Logie Trail is quite narrow and the pavement is in bad
shape. Making the descent even more treacherous was a fair amount of
gravel
spread across the road, I guess in an attempt to patch potholes. I made
it
down without incident and headed back to Portland, stopping at a 7-11 for
some V8 and snacks as I was feeling a bonk coming on.

I'm really glad I got out for this ride and did a little exploring.
Here's some pictures:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/**41335973@N00/sets/**72157633719837295/http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335973@N00/sets/72157633719837295/

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[RBW] Re: A fun first tour

The view from King's Ridge is incredible.  I spoke to someone in 
Guerneville who puts up film crews that go up there to do car commercials 
due to the lack of traffic, excellent weather, awesome backgrounds  easy 
helicopter permitting.  Take plenty of water; no services up there.  And 
when you go thru Cazadero, stop at the bakery.  They have loose hours  
close when they sell out but if you hit them when open it's a neat place.  

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 9:43:32 AM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:

 Yes, here are the few pictures that we managed to get with my buddy's 
 blackberry:

 http://diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/May-Ride/

 And I appreciate the tips on other routes. We planned this as a basic 
 simple loop on main roads. Looking back, even though we rode 128 on 
 weekdays, after the local rush hour was over, there's not much shoulder 
 on most stretches and the logging trucks come quite close. I've ridden many 
 of the backroads by motorcycle, and will focus on those for the next ride. 
 I think, too, we'll try King Ridge instead of Highway 1, from Stewart's 
 Point down to Cazadero.

 - Andrew, Berkeley

 On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:18:45 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

 +1 on some pictures. While HWY 128 is OK and is on several brevet route 
 to the coast, as sort of a mendocino county native, I still prefer two 
 roads slightly north of HWY 128 starting in Ukiah. Obviously you will have 
 to pedal 27 additional miles to Ukiah, but both HWY 253 (Ukiah Boonville 
 Road) and Orr Springs Road have much lower level of car traffic, and both 
 are more scenic. Granted both have bigger climbs than HWY 128. Given how 
 fast I drive myself sometimes on HWY 128 on my way to the coast, I'd stay 
 on the two old stagecoach roads mentioned above. Here is a ride report I 
 wrote about a short tour my wife and I took last year from Ukiah to the 
 coast: 
 http://bikegarage.blogspot.com/2012/06/memorial-weekend-mendocino-coast-bike.html

 best,
 Franklyn 
 Berkeley, CA



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Re: [RBW] Rocky Point Rd ramble.

Better you should stand on the pedals, my son.  

Anne's right about the gradients.  Anything with a Cal Trans Hwy number was 
built for motor vehicle traffic.  Not only do they have to be able to get 
up the hill, heavy trucks have to be able to descend safely (the cafe on 
Foothill at the bottom of Angeles Crest is exhibit A; gets wiped out every 
couple of decades).  So anything steeper than 6% won't go for too long.  
Over 10% grades will be older highways (eastern US) or roads built just for 
access to some point such as the logging access roads, the radio towers on 
Saddleback or Poly Canyon (SLO) or Dante's View in Death Valley.  

The Zen approach is a good idea.  I play a little game of how long to the 
top? estimating time to summit based on current speed  distance.  A while 
back I did a climb where at 5 miles from the top I was doing 5 MPH, so 
another hour.  The next time I played, I was down to 4 miles per hour with 
4 miles to go.  You can follow the progression, but I did eventually get 
there (whew!).  

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:24:04 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I stand in awe...

 Cheers,
 David



 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Anne Paulson 
 anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Last summer I did Mt Laguna, Onyx Summit, the climb to Crestline and the 
 climb to Angeles Crest (Lone Pine) with full touring gear (not on the same 
 day, of course). I don't think any of them are 15%, or not for long anyway. 
 If you're not a fast climber, on a long climb you just have to get in Zen 
 mind and not worry about the top, because you know you won't be there for a 
 while.


 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM, cyclotourist 
 cyclot...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Yes, point taken. I mean long climbs that aren't 15% that I can actually 
 do!!! :-)

 Cheers,
 David



 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM, dougP doug...@cox.net 
 javascript:wrote:

 Palomar, Glendora Mtn Rd, Acton to Mt Gleason, plenty of climbing 
 around here.  3 of us did Julian down to Alpine (?)  back up Mt Laguna a 
 couple of years ago.  Tougher on the bike than on the computer.  Oh, 
 Montezuma Grade, Borrego Springs to Julian.  Gotta get David out of his 
 ZIP 
 code more often.

 dougP


 On Monday, May 27, 2013 11:14:39 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:

 no long climbs down here  David...have your tried the ride up to Big 
 Bear or Angeles Crest or Baldy.  Even down here at Mt Laguna? Plenty 
 long, 
 even with low gears.  

 ~mike

 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 10:40:58 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 I nice ride you put together. Looks like a little bit of everything 
 in it. I've come to enjoy climbing, although there are no really long 
 ones 
 out here. Just slow down, gear down and spin.

 Cheers,
 David



 On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Mike mjaw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Woke up early this morning and headed out with Rocky Point Rd on my 
 mind. After a stop for coffee in St Johns I headed across the bridge 
 and 
 onto Hwy 30 for some miles (10? 15?) to the bottom of Rocky Point Rd. 
 Traffic on 30 wasn't bad. There was the usual collection of debris on 
 the 
 shoulder and a long stretch of rough pavement which is getting prepared 
 for 
 resurfacing but wasn't really an issue given my 35mm Schwalbe Supremes.

 I started heading up Rocky Point Rd and thinking about the first 
 time I rode it, maybe 6 and a half years ago. I was on my Lemond with a 
 low 
 gear of 39/25 and was wearing bibs and on SPDs. I had no idea what to 
 expect from the climb and wasn't looking forward to it at all. Today I 
 was 
 wearing some shorts, wool t-shirt and platform pedals. My low gear on 
 my 
 Hilsen is 26/28. I rode the first third of the climb in 36/28 which was 
 fine but there's a spot where the road cranks up and I dropped into my 
 granny, slowed down and just took in the scenery which is a mixture of 
 clearcut and dense forest. The road gets very little traffic so it's 
 quite 
 a pleasant climb.

 I've really grown to love climbing. When I lived in SF and would 
 head out with friends to ride Bolinas Ridge I was always somewhat 
 anxious 
 as I struggle on the climbs, yo-yoing off the back hoping I wouldn't 
 get 
 dropped to hard. I moved up here, started doing a lot of riding by 
 myself, 
 got turned onto Rivendell and learned to appreciate low gearing and a 
 leisurely pace. I actually wish the Rocky Point Climb was longer. 

 In an effort to enjoy the climb a little more I pulled onto one of 
 the logging roads and explored a couple of arteries. Nothing seemed to 
 offer an alternative route back to Rocky Point Rd but I did discover 
 some 
 nice singletrack which I'll explore sometime soon in the future. 

 I made my way back to Rocky Point Rd and continued the climb up to 
 the top where it connects with Skyline Blvd, a nice quiet stretch of 
 rolling road. If I had had more time I would have ventured over to 
 Dixie 
 Mtn for some gravel rambling but I needed to be home so I headed back

[RBW] Re: Psychedelic Quickbeam

No bike made that could handle that paint job!  

I felt like I was looking at where's Waldo? as it took a sec to find the 
bike.  Eric has a lot of photo fun.  

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 2:44:37 PM UTC-7, bwphoto wrote:

 The mural's cool but I thought but  I thought I  was going to see a bike 
 with a cool hippy paint job. ;)

 On Monday, May 27, 2013 1:56:35 PM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:

 Totally groovy photo from today's ride:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/8857220387/ 

 --Eric
 campyo...@me.com
 www.campyonly.com
 www.wheelsnorth.org
 Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
 Twitter: @campyonlyguy
  


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Re: [RBW] Re: A fun first tour

One time I was heading up King Ridge with a couple of friends. We were
planning to stop at the bakery, but it was closed-- but then the owner came
out and handed us a bag of pastries, for free. He was thereafter dubbed St.
Raymond. We were glad of those pastries, especially when I (oops)
accidentally led us a good long way up the wrong hill and we had to go back
down and go up the right one.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:26 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

The view from King's Ridge is incredible. I spoke to someone in
Guerneville who puts up film crews that go up there to do car commercials
due to the lack of traffic, excellent weather, awesome backgrounds easy
helicopter permitting. Take plenty of water; no services up there. And
when you go thru Cazadero, stop at the bakery. They have loose hours
close when they sell out but if you hit them when open it's a neat place.

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 9:43:32 AM UTC-7, BSWP wrote:

Yes, here are the few pictures that we managed to get with my buddy's
blackberry:

http://diesel.smugmug.com/**Bici/May-Ride/http://diesel.smugmug.com/Bici/May-Ride/

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:18:45 AM UTC-7, franklyn wrote:

best,
Franklyn
Berkeley, CA

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Re: [RBW] Rocky Point Rd ramble.

Umm... Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Highway 108, Sonora Pass. I've only
climbed the easy east side, with its extended 15% grades.

Ebbetts Pass/Pacific Grade, Highway 4, has its moments on the east side.
I'm trying to remember what possessed me to agree to sign up to ride it
this June, as part of the Sierra to the Sea.

In contrast, the southern California passes I've done are not too bad. I'm
sure there are some horrors, but Mt. Laguna is a pussycat. The only thing
my group disliked was the cohort of flies that accompanied each of us as we
climbed, courtesy, I think, of the cattle that graze there.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:49 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:


 Anne's right about the gradients.  Anything with a Cal Trans Hwy number
 was built for motor vehicle traffic.  Not only do they have to be able to
 get up the hill, heavy trucks have to be able to descend safely (the cafe
 on Foothill at the bottom of Angeles Crest is exhibit A; gets wiped out
 every couple of decades).  So anything steeper than 6% won't go for too
 long.

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[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-27 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

It sounds like this coming weekend has got more than it's fair share of
Rivendell type rides... Nice.

Anyone in the Northwest is welcome to come out for the *The Seattle vs
Portland Country Bike Rumble i*n the Cispus River Valley.

We have the *Bear Group Site* reserved at the *North Fork Campground* and
the weather forecast is in our favor. Even though it's unlikely we'll fill
the group site, it made sense to get it because of the additional car
fees we would have been paying at regular sites. Plus this way we can camp
together but still have room to spread out. We certainly have room if
anyone wants to bring a spouse or a friend.

The main event (the ride) will be Saturday afternoon. Pedals will start
spinning when it seems that everyone who's going to show up is there and
ready... maybe 12 noon... hopefully no later than 1. We'll play it by ear.

As previously discussed, there's more snow than was initially anticipated.
There is 4+ feet of snow at 4000ft so we'll be confined to the valleys,
which limits our options to ride a loop. Our route will be out-and-back.
The Campground is at the confluence of the North Fork Cispus River and the
main trunk of the Cispus River. There is a road up each fork that we can
ride to the snow line. Road 22 along the North
Forkhttp://ridewithgps.com/routes/2572440is shorter and has a more pronounced
flat-for-a-ways then steep-for-a-ways
thing about it. Road 23 is more evenly gradual and goes to Babyshoe
Passhttp://ridewithgps.com/routes/2572444,
but we'll be stopped by snow well before the pass.

The Portland crew will be providing a *spaghetti dinner* Saturday night
after the ride. That is the only thing provided on this trip... BYO camping
gear, eating utensils, food, etc. We'll take up a collection to buy a few
bundles of firewood.

Directions to the North Fork Campground
HERE.https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Randle,+WAdaddr=North+Fork+Campground,+Randle,+WAhl=ensll=46.451578,-121.787567sspn=0.237484,0.615921geocode=FacSxgIdfhS7-CkJnNe0ls-WVDHkD2Q9TMhsEw%3BFUTMxAIdEam9-CHb_coVY3uYICl1p5xR0NyWVDHb_coVY3uYIAoq=Randle,+WAt=hmra=lsz=12
When
I made the reservation the CG map made it look like the group sites are
away from the main campground loop. I imagine there'll be signs.

If I forgot anything or you have other Qs, post them here or send me a
message. Looking forward to meeting + riding with everyone on Saturday.

--Smitty

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[RBW] Re: Seattle vs Portland Country Bike Rumble - June 1st

2013-05-27 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt

Since we have the group site, there'll be plenty of parking if anyone wants 
to come for day, ride with the group, then head home to sleep in their own 
bed. If you do that, you're likely to miss out on the fire and whatever 
impromptu morning ride might happen. So day trip at your own risk.  

--Smitty

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Re: [RBW] New shoes for the Atlantis

2013-05-27 Thread john muhl

Schwalbe says 60mm; calipers say 56.6mm.

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:10:41 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's one tough looking 'Lantis! What do those shoes measure out to?

 Cheers,
 David



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  wrote:

 After trying last summer and missing out I made sure to get at the front 
 of the queue for the 2013 Super Motos. With 25/35 psi (and the accompanying 
 cush) it's like riding a different bike and despite the plumpness they are 
 quite zippy. Only trouble is that the rear slightly rubbed the 
 kickstand…anyone know if a single legger would have a chance to fit?

 http://goo.gl/0KZV7

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[RBW] Great Western Bicycle Rally - 2013

2013-05-27 Thread jimD

As is our custom, pal Brian and I spent this weekend at the Great Western 
Bicycle Rally in Paso Robles, CA.
The rally is a great family affair and the variety of riding in Paso Robles is 
excellent.
Pictures may prove that it happened:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/

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[RBW] Re: Alba vs. Bosco

2013-05-27 Thread hangtownmatt


Thank You.  This is very helpful.

Matt
On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:39:58 AM UTC-7, oli c wrote:

 Good morning,
 this is not a profile shot, however it demonstrate the difference between 
 the two handlebars in an eloquent way.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/8855573398/in/photostream/

 Cheers,

 Olivier

 On Thursday, May 23, 2013 4:12:07 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

  
 How far behind the headset do these bars project?
 Anyone got a good profile shot showing how far behind the headset the 
 gripped part of the bars sit?



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Re: [RBW] New shoes for the Atlantis

Schwalbe is usually over-generous by about 10%, so that's in the
neighborhood. Thanks!

Cheers,
David

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 8:29 PM, john muhl johnm...@gmail.com wrote:

Schwalbe says 60mm; calipers say 56.6mm.

On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:10:41 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

That's one tough looking 'Lantis! What do those shoes measure out to?

Cheers,
David

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After trying last summer and missing out I made sure to get at the front
of the queue for the 2013 Super Motos. With 25/35 psi (and the accompanying
cush) it's like riding a different bike and despite the plumpness they are
quite zippy. Only trouble is that the rear slightly rubbed the
kickstand…anyone know if a single legger would have a chance to fit?

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[RBW] I raced my Riv in a mountain bike race

2013-05-27 Thread Alex Moll

Ski to Sea (aka the Bellingham Olympics) is a 93 mile, 7-leg relay race 
from Mount Baker to Bellingham Bay. My principal and a group of teacher 
buddies have been doing this event for a few years. XC Ski-downhill 
ski-run-road bike-canoe-XC bike-kayak. Their mountain biker decided to 
retire, so I was asked to join the team. The mountain bike leg is about 13 
miles long and mixed terrain and surfaces, but not extremely technical. 
They started allowing cyclocross bikes a couple years ago, and though the 
mountain bike would be more comfortable in a lot of spots, the 'cross bikes 
are faster overall. They also decided to change the name of the leg to 
Cross-Country Bike.

Country Bike? Sounds like a job for my Riv! I have a couple of mountain 
bikes, but knew the Riv would be faster overall.

I pre-rode the course on Saturday with JB greens. What fun! The tires 
worked great on the fairly dry course. Alas, it rained all night, and all 
day Sunday - which required a last minute switch to 'cross mud tires. The 
Michelin Tires were labelled 700x30, but actually measured 34mm (pleasant 
surprise!) The Silver sidepulls had plenty of mud clearance, and worked 
fine in the muck. I did have one mishap fairly early in the event - I 
leaned over to far on wet pavement, lost the front and laid it down. 
Luckily, it was a slow/tight/technical 90 degree turn. That did cause me to 
be a bit more cautious, and possibly the minute I needed to crack Top 100 
glory.

So, the bike did great and the engine wasn't as weak as I'd feared. I 
finished 170 out of nearly 500.

Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151498@N07/sets/72157633729826500/

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[RBW] Re: Great Western Bicycle Rally - 2013

2013-05-27 Thread BSWP

Great pictures - you're clearly enjoying the X100s!

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:42:18 PM UTC-7, JimD wrote:

 As is our custom, pal Brian and I spent this weekend at the Great Western 
 Bicycle Rally in Paso Robles, CA.
 The rally is a great family affair and the variety of riding in Paso 
 Robles is excellent.
 Pictures may prove that it happened:  
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/rasterdogs/

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[RBW] Re: New shoes for the Atlantis



  width shoes...


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[RBW] Tiagra brake levers temporarily on Albas...safe?

...if I use some rubber strips to widen the bar where the levers will go 
for now and clamp them down good?
 
Looks like Rivendell is outta the brake levers I want for Albas. Gotta wait 
for those.
 
I imagine that a solidly clamped Tiagra lever would be fine in the 
meantime. Am I missing something?
 
 
 
 

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Re: [RBW] I raced my Riv in a mountain bike race

2013-05-27 Thread James Warren


Congratulations!


On May 27, 2013, at 9:03 PM, Alex Moll wrote:

 Ski to Sea (aka the Bellingham Olympics) is a 93 mile, 7-leg relay race from 
 Mount Baker to Bellingham Bay. My principal and a group of teacher buddies 
 have been doing this event for a few years. XC Ski-downhill ski-run-road 
 bike-canoe-XC bike-kayak. Their mountain biker decided to retire, so I was 
 asked to join the team. The mountain bike leg is about 13 miles long and 
 mixed terrain and surfaces, but not extremely technical. They started 
 allowing cyclocross bikes a couple years ago, and though the mountain bike 
 would be more comfortable in a lot of spots, the 'cross bikes are faster 
 overall. They also decided to change the name of the leg to Cross-Country 
 Bike.
 
 Country Bike? Sounds like a job for my Riv! I have a couple of mountain 
 bikes, but knew the Riv would be faster overall.
 
 I pre-rode the course on Saturday with JB greens. What fun! The tires worked 
 great on the fairly dry course. Alas, it rained all night, and all day Sunday 
 - which required a last minute switch to 'cross mud tires. The Michelin Tires 
 were labelled 700x30, but actually measured 34mm (pleasant surprise!) The 
 Silver sidepulls had plenty of mud clearance, and worked fine in the muck. I 
 did have one mishap fairly early in the event - I leaned over to far on wet 
 pavement, lost the front and laid it down. Luckily, it was a 
 slow/tight/technical 90 degree turn. That did cause me to be a bit more 
 cautious, and possibly the minute I needed to crack Top 100 glory.
 
 So, the bike did great and the engine wasn't as weak as I'd feared. I 
 finished 170 out of nearly 500.
 
 Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/39151498@N07/sets/72157633729826500/
 
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Re: [RBW] New shoes for the Atlantis

2013-05-27 Thread Tim Gavin

I don't think you have room for a stand in between those chainstays.
Neither do I; I put a rear kickstand on mine, and it works great.


On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 6:10 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote:

 That's one tough looking 'Lantis! What do those shoes measure out to?

 Cheers,
 David



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 After trying last summer and missing out I made sure to get at the front
 of the queue for the 2013 Super Motos. With 25/35 psi (and the accompanying
 cush) it's like riding a different bike and despite the plumpness they are
 quite zippy. Only trouble is that the rear slightly rubbed the
 kickstand…anyone know if a single legger would have a chance to fit?

 http://goo.gl/0KZV7

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Re: [RBW] New shoes for the Atlantis

John:

Be careful.  The Atlantis is only rated to 50 mm tires.  You've voided the 
warranty :-).  

Those tires are a forkful!  

dougP

On Monday, May 27, 2013 8:29:26 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:

 Schwalbe says 60mm; calipers say 56.6mm.

 On Monday, May 27, 2013 6:10:41 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 That's one tough looking 'Lantis! What do those shoes measure out to?

 Cheers,
 David



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 After trying last summer and missing out I made sure to get at the front 
 of the queue for the 2013 Super Motos. With 25/35 psi (and the accompanying 
 cush) it's like riding a different bike and despite the plumpness they are 
 quite zippy. Only trouble is that the rear slightly rubbed the 
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[RBW] Memorial Day Hunqapillar Ride

2013-05-27 Thread Robert F. Harrison

I did one of my favorite rides today, Honolulu to Haleiwa. It's about 70
miles one way. The weather was gorgeous but the trades wins kept the fun
down for the first few miles till I turned the corner on the island and
started picking it up as a bit of a tailwind.

The Hunq performed wonderfully. The climbs seemed easier than ever.

I don't take many pictures anymore (as I do this ride several times a
year), but I did take my 'obligatory' Kahuku Sugar Mills shot with my bike
in front a really big gear.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgps-bob/8862384813/

Aloha!

Bob

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