[RBW] Re: Sunday Solo Sites of San Diego Ride
On my next trip down we need to do a day ramble like this. Love the pic of the battle ship and cemetery. ~Hugh On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:41:46 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote: Public transportation to downtown San Diego then along the water front. Hit Pt. Loma and a national monument before catching the wind when heading east along the San Diego river. A few pics. http://www.flickr.com/photos/97010676@N07/sets/72157636525044213/ . Ride save, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can anyone compare feel of MUSA wool to Icebreaker?
BTW, I just compared an Icebreaker 200 with a MUSA - the only difference is the color of the thread in the seams. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:03:58 AM UTC-5, Earl Grey wrote: I love my Icebreaker woolens, but also have a Patagonia wool t-shirt that I dislike because it is too SOFT! It just feels insubstantial and flimsy. I assume the MUSA stuff is more like Icebreaker, but can anyone confirm? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Can anyone compare feel of MUSA wool to Icebreaker?
ps - I have become Kookaburra wool wash junkie since I bought my first bottle from Riv. The lanolin improves your wool. But it also improves all your laundry. I wash towels and sheets in soap, but all my daughter's clothes, my cotton tees - it all comes out better with the Kookaburra. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:18:56 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: BTW, I just compared an Icebreaker 200 with a MUSA - the only difference is the color of the thread in the seams. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:03:58 AM UTC-5, Earl Grey wrote: I love my Icebreaker woolens, but also have a Patagonia wool t-shirt that I dislike because it is too SOFT! It just feels insubstantial and flimsy. I assume the MUSA stuff is more like Icebreaker, but can anyone confirm? Thanks, Gernot -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Pittsburgh night ride
A very pleasant group I've ridden with every Tuesday, April through September has now gone dormant for the dark seasons. Several of us have decided to keep up the riding under the cover of darkness. It's become a celebration of generator hubs and LED headlights. We gather at Tazza d'oro coffee and head out for the highs and lows, enjoying the pretty vast infrastructure available off the roadways where possible. We wound our way through the Carnegie Mellon University campus, through a dark Panther Hollow, along the jail trail and the Hot Metal Bridge (named for the one-time cargo of the insulated railcars taking molten iron or steel across the river to secondary mills) to the South Side. We picked a reasonably desolate path up into the heights of Mount Washington and along the non-view neighborhoods and then crossed the summit line to Grandview Avenue to enjoy the proceeds of our work. Mount Washington had coal seams that were mined horizontally with some opening on the face overlooking town. Chutes delivered it to the riverbank for a simple barge trip to the fires of the steel industry up and down the rivers. Hell with the lid off James Parton wrote in 1868. Certainly different now. This place is now about education, medicine, and technology. Other recent insights include the growing value of the waterfront *mileage,*which had been avoided as the uncomfortable place where industry was. Redevelopment has been managed to value those massive tracts and many bikeway miles have been established along them. The Great Allegheny Passage starts at the fountain in Point State Park and runs upstream along the city side of Monongahela (*Mon*) River, crossing the Hot Metal Bridge and continuing to the town of McKeesport where it picks up the Youghiogheny (* Yock*) River along which it runs into the Allegheny Mountains toward Cumberland, MD then Washington DC via the CO Canal towpath; 325 miles. Too much for tonight. We descended Sycamore Street (part of the old Thrift Drug Classic and The Dirty Dozen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Dozen_(bicycle_competition)) to Station Square, crossed the very decorative Smithfield Street Bridge to downtown and the jail trail, and back to the start where several of us retired around the corner for a pleasant post ride refreshment and conversation. Nice to keep the positive vibe of the ride group going into dark part of the year. Sure is a glowing plug for lighting, I know it takes little provocation to spill praise for mine. Oh yeah, pictures prove... Pittsburgh Night Ride 10/15https://plus.google.com/photos/109160474815391208206/albums/5935300447174770417?authkey=CIjDnr3508GETA Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB: nitto 8cm dirt drop
Still searching for an 8cm Periscopa stem... (and a few other things like bosco bars) if you have a spare dirt drop sitting around, lemme know, thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 60cm Wilbury on the Bay - Original Rivendell Mixte
Unfortunately (or fortunately), not I. Should have bought it at the $2000 BIN price when first listed. Somewhat surprised it went for such a premium over the BIN price. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:29:03 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, who's the lucky winner? http://www.ebay.com/itm/28118414 On 10/13/13, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I don't know, that's not much time considering how much work would be involved!!! On 10/12/13, Curtis McKenzie cmc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: A well directed post. Maybe with a great deal of time, effort and expense such a bicycle would be some what ready to ride by March 15 2014. Curtis Redlands McKenzie On Saturday, October 12, 2013, cyclotourist wrote: Yes, a very old antique bike, bound to have lots of issues. Probably rusted out internally. Jagged exposed metal can give you tetanus, which is awful. I'm sure it will need a re-paint as well, never mind the original lead-based paint that will cause developmental delays in children.. Very unsafe for you or a loved one to even have in the garage. Yes, move right along, nothing to see here folks... On 10/12/13, Steve yng...@yahoo.com javascript: javascript:; wrote: Should be interesting what it sells for. However, it is almost a 20 year old bike with a mix of nice (Paul, Phil) and ok (Shimano) components , and being a mixtie, and a large size to boot, probably limits its appeal to fans of Rivendell only. Who know, the market may go crazy and bid it up. On Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:57:10 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote: Yeah, I can easily see why that bike is 2K. It has paul centerpull brakes and wheels with phil wood cassette hubs. That stuff aint cheap. My bet is that the bike sells for more than the 2k BIN price. On Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:01:25 AM UTC-5, Charlie wrote: I agree the bike looks awkward - replace the stem with a dirt drop and it would look better. I suspect the owner was real tall. Grant has said he would build this frame for $3000 since he still has lugs. Add in the components and replacement cost is $5500+. To those who expressed concerned that I post this and didn't buy it when the BIN was 2000, I say what were you thinking? Charlie On Friday, October 11, 2013 6:40:40 AM UTC-4, Charlie wrote: This is my second attempt to post this - first attempt did not show up - might have used an incorrect Google ID. In any event, there is a beautiful red original mixte with good equipment on the Bay. These don't show up that often. Have no association with seller. Charlie Apologies if this message appears twice. Also not sure if links are permitted so didn't include one - should be very easy to find though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: [RBW] 60cm Wilbury on the Bay - Original Rivendell Mixte
The right two people both wanted it. Lucky seller! On 10/16/13, Steve yngp...@yahoo.com wrote: Unfortunately (or fortunately), not I. Should have bought it at the $2000 BIN price when first listed. Somewhat surprised it went for such a premium over the BIN price. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:29:03 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, who's the lucky winner? http://www.ebay.com/itm/28118414 On 10/13/13, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I don't know, that's not much time considering how much work would be involved!!! On 10/12/13, Curtis McKenzie cmc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: A well directed post. Maybe with a great deal of time, effort and expense such a bicycle would be some what ready to ride by March 15 2014. Curtis Redlands McKenzie On Saturday, October 12, 2013, cyclotourist wrote: Yes, a very old antique bike, bound to have lots of issues. Probably rusted out internally. Jagged exposed metal can give you tetanus, which is awful. I'm sure it will need a re-paint as well, never mind the original lead-based paint that will cause developmental delays in children.. Very unsafe for you or a loved one to even have in the garage. Yes, move right along, nothing to see here folks... On 10/12/13, Steve yng...@yahoo.com javascript: javascript:; wrote: Should be interesting what it sells for. However, it is almost a 20 year old bike with a mix of nice (Paul, Phil) and ok (Shimano) components , and being a mixtie, and a large size to boot, probably limits its appeal to fans of Rivendell only. Who know, the market may go crazy and bid it up. On Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:57:10 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote: Yeah, I can easily see why that bike is 2K. It has paul centerpull brakes and wheels with phil wood cassette hubs. That stuff aint cheap. My bet is that the bike sells for more than the 2k BIN price. On Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:01:25 AM UTC-5, Charlie wrote: I agree the bike looks awkward - replace the stem with a dirt drop and it would look better. I suspect the owner was real tall. Grant has said he would build this frame for $3000 since he still has lugs. Add in the components and replacement cost is $5500+. To those who expressed concerned that I post this and didn't buy it when the BIN was 2000, I say what were you thinking? Charlie On Friday, October 11, 2013 6:40:40 AM UTC-4, Charlie wrote: This is my second attempt to post this - first attempt did not show up - might have used an incorrect Google ID. In any event, there is a beautiful red original mixte with good equipment on the Bay. These don't show up that often. Have no association with seller. Charlie Apologies if this message appears twice. Also not sure if links are permitted so didn't include one - should be very easy to find though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
[RBW] Pittsburgh night ride
Cool! I would also be interested in participating in this - please post info or hit me up off-list. Dan G, also in Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pittsburgh night ride
Hi Andy, Great write up on the tuesday ride through Pittsburgh. Nice pics too! I ride these trails/roads/paths a few times a month, and was vicariously riding along with you. Did you go up 18th street to get to Mt Washington? I've seen the notices for the tuesday evening rides, but have not yet joined in. Maybe next year. We've not been to the Tazza D'oro and will have to put it on our coffeeneuring list. Maybe hit it this thursday, or friday. Rusty C. Pittsburgh PA On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:53:21 AM UTC-4, ascpgh wrote: A very pleasant group I've ridden with every Tuesday, April through September has now gone dormant for the dark seasons. Several of us have decided to keep up the riding under the cover of darkness. It's become a celebration of generator hubs and LED headlights. We gather at Tazza d'oro coffee and head out for the highs and lows, enjoying the pretty vast infrastructure available off the roadways where possible. We wound our way through the Carnegie Mellon University campus, through a dark Panther Hollow, along the jail trail and the Hot Metal Bridge (named for the one-time cargo of the insulated railcars taking molten iron or steel across the river to secondary mills) to the South Side. We picked a reasonably desolate path up into the heights of Mount Washington and along the non-view neighborhoods and then crossed the summit line to Grandview Avenue to enjoy the proceeds of our work. Mount Washington had coal seams that were mined horizontally with some opening on the face overlooking town. Chutes delivered it to the riverbank for a simple barge trip to the fires of the steel industry up and down the rivers. Hell with the lid off James Parton wrote in 1868. Certainly different now. This place is now about education, medicine, and technology. Other recent insights include the growing value of the waterfront * mileage,* which had been avoided as the uncomfortable place where industry was. Redevelopment has been managed to value those massive tracts and many bikeway miles have been established along them. The Great Allegheny Passage starts at the fountain in Point State Park and runs upstream along the city side of Monongahela (*Mon*) River, crossing the Hot Metal Bridge and continuing to the town of McKeesport where it picks up the Youghiogheny (*Yock*) River along which it runs into the Allegheny Mountains toward Cumberland, MD then Washington DC via the CO Canal towpath; 325 miles. Too much for tonight. We descended Sycamore Street (part of the old Thrift Drug Classic and The Dirty Dozenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Dozen_(bicycle_competition)) to Station Square, crossed the very decorative Smithfield Street Bridge to downtown and the jail trail, and back to the start where several of us retired around the corner for a pleasant post ride refreshment and conversation. Nice to keep the positive vibe of the ride group going into dark part of the year. Sure is a glowing plug for lighting, I know it takes little provocation to spill praise for mine. Oh yeah, pictures prove... Pittsburgh Night Ride 10/15https://plus.google.com/photos/109160474815391208206/albums/5935300447174770417?authkey=CIjDnr3508GETA Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos
How much clearance do you have around those big tires? I've been thinking about setting my Rambly up with fatter tires and no fenders-tempted by the new, suppler Pasela descendent Soma is offering. (it's a 38mm tire) Got a pic of your bike? Thanks, Steve On Monday, October 14, 2013 7:12:07 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: Took my Ram out yesterday for a club ride. The 37mm Paselas felt great. every time I get on the bike, I am surprised by how comfortable it is and how well it handles. I've had it with 28mm Contis, but always go back to fatter rubber. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nitto top rack, Schwalbe Marathon Duremes, Silver brakes, etc..
sorry direct reply does not work for me i will take the top rack if i can i know a young fellow who might want the wheel with generator should i mention it to him or are you sticking to local sale on wheels? thanks bo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos
On the Ram, you might be pushing it with the 38mm C-Line, depending on what the final actual dimensions are. There is a nice comfortable amount of clearance between the 33.3mm JBs and the brakes, but I'm not sure I'd want to puff out any further. KJ On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 10:31:32 AM UTC-4, stevef wrote: How much clearance do you have around those big tires? I've been thinking about setting my Rambly up with fatter tires and no fenders-tempted by the new, suppler Pasela descendent Soma is offering. (it's a 38mm tire) Got a pic of your bike? Thanks, Steve On Monday, October 14, 2013 7:12:07 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: Took my Ram out yesterday for a club ride. The 37mm Paselas felt great. every time I get on the bike, I am surprised by how comfortable it is and how well it handles. I've had it with 28mm Contis, but always go back to fatter rubber. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Pittsburgh night ride
Andy: That's awesome to hear... Keep those night rides going!!! I'd love to be in Pittsburgh some Tuesday for one of these rides...maybe work that in to my next drive to Cincinnati. And I can't think of a better guide than you (with your historical knowledge). When we did the GAP ride last year I had wished we had the time to continue all the way to Pittsburgh. That would certainly be a fun concept... Riding into Pittsburgh on the GAP trail, then spending a day/evening in town (maybe hooking up with the crew at Bicycle Times)... Pittsburgh has such a cool vibe. Peace, BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Wooden Fenders for Atlantis - photos / suggestions
Here is a shot of some homemade wooden fenders on my Kogswell P. They aren't on the bike anymore, but lasted year round for about 4-5 years before I took them off. http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2005/cc010-scotthenry0605.html Scott Cheers, Scott Henry Dayton, OH FTM-PTB On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:25 PM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote: Having donated the plastic Planet Bike fenders from my Atlantis to my wife's new orange Surly LHT, I am searching for a new set. In reviewing the many fender options, I have become intrigued by bamboo and wooden fenders. If you have wooden fenders on any type of bike do you like them? Why or why not? What kind/who made them? If you have wooden fenders on an Atlantis, do you have photos? A google search only returned three Atlanti with wooden fenders (to my hurried/tired eyes): Michael and Mel's at cyclofiend.com http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2006/cc184-michaelwolfe1006.html http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc/2008/cc519-jamesjohnson0908.html And PlainWrapPedaler at Flickr: http://www.flickr.com/photos/46241869@N08/7523876266/ Any others out there? I am curious about how they hold up compared to plastic and metal as well as how fenders of different types of wood look on an Atlantis. So far, I have discovered Woodys Fenders ( http://www.woodysfenders.com/store/) and Sykes ( http://www.sykeswoodfenders.com/sykeswoodfenders/home.html). Are there other manufacturers? Many thanks, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 60cm Wilbury on the Bay - Original Rivendell Mixte
It's the eBay-shark-feeding-frenzy phenom... when an item sells for more than the BIN... Not that this wasn't worth the selling price... it's just that someone hedged their bets that it would sell for less, yet ended up paying more. Regardless there's someone now with a big smile on their face and a new red Wilbury. Oh damn damn damn damn damn On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:31:15 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: The right two people both wanted it. Lucky seller! On 10/16/13, Steve yng...@yahoo.com javascript: wrote: Unfortunately (or fortunately), not I. Should have bought it at the $2000 BIN price when first listed. Somewhat surprised it went for such a premium over the BIN price. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:29:03 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote: Okay, who's the lucky winner? http://www.ebay.com/itm/28118414 On 10/13/13, cyclotourist cyclot...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I don't know, that's not much time considering how much work would be involved!!! On 10/12/13, Curtis McKenzie cmc...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: A well directed post. Maybe with a great deal of time, effort and expense such a bicycle would be some what ready to ride by March 15 2014. Curtis Redlands McKenzie On Saturday, October 12, 2013, cyclotourist wrote: Yes, a very old antique bike, bound to have lots of issues. Probably rusted out internally. Jagged exposed metal can give you tetanus, which is awful. I'm sure it will need a re-paint as well, never mind the original lead-based paint that will cause developmental delays in children.. Very unsafe for you or a loved one to even have in the garage. Yes, move right along, nothing to see here folks... On 10/12/13, Steve yng...@yahoo.com javascript: javascript:; wrote: Should be interesting what it sells for. However, it is almost a 20 year old bike with a mix of nice (Paul, Phil) and ok (Shimano) components , and being a mixtie, and a large size to boot, probably limits its appeal to fans of Rivendell only. Who know, the market may go crazy and bid it up. On Saturday, October 12, 2013 9:57:10 AM UTC-4, RJM wrote: Yeah, I can easily see why that bike is 2K. It has paul centerpull brakes and wheels with phil wood cassette hubs. That stuff aint cheap. My bet is that the bike sells for more than the 2k BIN price. On Saturday, October 12, 2013 8:01:25 AM UTC-5, Charlie wrote: I agree the bike looks awkward - replace the stem with a dirt drop and it would look better. I suspect the owner was real tall. Grant has said he would build this frame for $3000 since he still has lugs. Add in the components and replacement cost is $5500+. To those who expressed concerned that I post this and didn't buy it when the BIN was 2000, I say what were you thinking? Charlie On Friday, October 11, 2013 6:40:40 AM UTC-4, Charlie wrote: This is my second attempt to post this - first attempt did not show up - might have used an incorrect Google ID. In any event, there is a beautiful red original mixte with good equipment on the Bay. These don't show up that often. Have no association with seller. Charlie Apologies if this message appears twice. Also not sure if links are permitted so didn't include one - should be very easy to find though. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:;. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:javascript:; . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You
Re: [RBW] 60cm Wilbury on the Bay - Original Rivendell Mixte
If I wanted this bike at $2k but missed much chance, I'd gladly pay another $200-300 over for a second chance. Sometimes there's a discount, sometimes a premium, for the things we want. Since the bike is no longer made (except special order), I'd pay the premium in this case and not feel (too) badly about missing it in the first go-round. Whoever got it, enjoy. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos
depending what color Ram you have. my orange has a higher rear brake bridge so pasela 37's fit fine with 47-57 brake but in front i need a Tektro 559 extra long reach to clear the tire Do THIS before eating carbs #40;every time#41; 1 EASY tip to increase fat-burning, lower blood sugar decrease fat storage http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/525eb6c2b637236c23fbast04duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
36 ft of helicopter tape...that's a lot of tape. Useful for protecting other parts of the bike as well...chain stay protector, head tube protector, use it on the top tube to protect against the exposed brake cable. Probably can sell some here as well... On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:53:15 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
I'm just the opposite when mtb's came on the scene in the mid 80's, I switched to 90% mountain bikes for almost 2 decades. But I still prefer drop bars. In fact I've been scheming to convert my steel 29er to mountain drops. Now with hydro discs for drop bars on the market ( TRP) it may be just the right time. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Acorn Bags Boxy Rando Bag (Olive), Tubus Reear Rack, Salsa Front Rack
http://www.curtisrschmitt.com/HorseCyclesUrbanTourLoaded.jpg * Acorn Bags Boxy Rando Bag*—I've decided that the Ranger Tan color will look better with my bike's cream-colored powder coat finish than the Olive, so I'm selling the Olive handlebar bag since I use that the least. I am holding onto the saddlebag and toolbag for now because I need them, but as soon as Acorn makes another Tan batch I'm buying those versions and will sell off the remaining Olive goodies here. Asking $200 shipped to CONUS *Tubus Logo Evo*—hard to see in the photo with Brooks panniers mounted to it but I purchased it new, it only has 100 miles on it. Includes all mounting hardware. I've decided black racks do not look good on this bike, so I'm going to do some VO polished racks instead. Asking $100 shipped to CONUS *Salsa Down Under Front Rack*—this is the split style rack. I didn't even mount it, brand new (so therefore it's not shown in photo). I'm going with a larger silver front rack instead. Asking $50 shipped to CONUS *Buy everything for $300 shipped. * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
I also used racer's tape to attach my wire from my headlight to the taillight. I like the idea of using it to protect the head tube from cable rub and chainstay nicks too. Toshi in Oakland On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Steve yngp...@yahoo.com wrote: 36 ft of helicopter tape...that's a lot of tape. Useful for protecting other parts of the bike as well...chain stay protector, head tube protector, use it on the top tube to protect against the exposed brake cable. Probably can sell some here as well... On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:53:15 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
The racers tape I bought online was a disappointment. It would not stick to the frame. I'm not sure if I bought the wrong stuff, a bad batch, or I need to clean and prep the frame tubes better prior to application. If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it. Dynamo wires bug me! Chris On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:34:15 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote: I also used racer's tape to attach my wire from my headlight to the taillight. I like the idea of using it to protect the head tube from cable rub and chainstay nicks too. Toshi in Oakland On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Steve yng...@yahoo.com javascript: wrote: 36 ft of helicopter tape...that's a lot of tape. Useful for protecting other parts of the bike as well...chain stay protector, head tube protector, use it on the top tube to protect against the exposed brake cable. Probably can sell some here as well... On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:53:15 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
I use electrical tape. It is available in colors other than black. I have a roll of yellow somewhere; need to find it :-) I run the wires down the inside edge of the fork blade. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:53:15 AM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
Here's a nice, clean wiring job by somervillebikes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7516215@N03/9401478506/ He used shrink tubing (pre-shrunk before attaching) and glued pieces to the fork as guides for the wire. His photostream shows how he guided the wire under the fender using aluminum tube guides. He's done collaborative projects with JP Weigle-- attention to detail, no doubt. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:34:31 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote: I've used the spiral wire wrap that's sold at Radio Shack and similar places to hold wires onto the brake cable housing. This works best when you use full cable housing, but it could also work on a bike with cable stops. Not the most elegant solution, but it gets the job done. Spiral wire wrap is available in colors so you can coordinate with the frame or cable housing: [image: image.jpeg] --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Oct 16, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Chris citrow...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The racers tape I bought online was a disappointment. It would not stick to the frame. I'm not sure if I bought the wrong stuff, a bad batch, or I need to clean and prep the frame tubes better prior to application. If anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it. Dynamo wires bug me! Chris On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:34:15 AM UTC-7, ttoshi wrote: I also used racer's tape to attach my wire from my headlight to the taillight. I like the idea of using it to protect the head tube from cable rub and chainstay nicks too. Toshi in Oakland On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Steve yng...@yahoo.com wrote: 36 ft of helicopter tape...that's a lot of tape. Useful for protecting other parts of the bike as well...chain stay protector, head tube protector, use it on the top tube to protect against the exposed brake cable. Probably can sell some here as well... On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:53:15 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 60cm Wilbury on the Bay - Original Rivendell Mixte
That Wilbury was a steal at $2000. Still a terrific deal at $2300. Similarly, there is a 71cm Hilsen on ebay right now that would cost well over $5000 to duplicate. BIN for just under $3k. It's a screaming deal, but I doubt we'll see somebody snap it up on BIN. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:43:03 AM UTC-7, Perry wrote: If I wanted this bike at $2k but missed much chance, I'd gladly pay another $200-300 over for a second chance. Sometimes there's a discount, sometimes a premium, for the things we want. Since the bike is no longer made (except special order), I'd pay the premium in this case and not feel (too) badly about missing it in the first go-round. Whoever got it, enjoy. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Mount Laguna_S240_San Diego, CA
The weather on Mt. Laguna looks to be perfect. 59 and 45 with clear skies. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013, Deacon Patrick wrote: Hugh, On the diet I'm on (Perfect Health Diet, www.perfecthealthdiet.com), I eat 1-1.5 cups of safe starches a day (white rice, yams, sweet potatoes, white potatoes), but all other grains are anti-nutrients. I initially tried very low carb, eating none except for fruits and veggies, but found I bonked with prolonged aerobic activity. This summer I have done a 48 hour and 75 hour fast (no food intake at all), with 5-6 hours of aerobic activity a day while camping -- all without bonking. I had food with me but simply did not feel hungry. Yes, wheat has changed significantly, especially in the last 2000 years. Like you, we use honey, very sparingly. Yes, eating this way eliminates processed foods entirely, which may seem daunting or burdensome, but we've found it amazingly freeing. We've also found that any animal products from animals eating grain have a similar effect, so only eat 100% grass fed or wild caught meat, fish, and dairy. No everyone is so sensitive, and can handle eggs and bacon and other things that can't be found without grain supplement. By calories, my diet is 70-80% fat, 15-20% protein, 10-15% carbs. I have a lot more brain clarity, cushion, and energy than previously. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:28:24 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Hey Patrick, I like the way you summarized that. Is that all grains? Is rice in that group? I have been off wheat too. My limited knowledge of wheat is that what we eat now has been genetically altered as to be without any benefit to us, where as the grains our ancestors ate (particularly wheat) were better for the body in their natural form. What I find most interesting is that though my riding has been down ( number of days) back pain and obligations my weight has dropped by 1/2 a pound. Most amazing 1.) Most everything packaged has sugar. 2.) How easy it's been to stay off refined sugar, I do indulge in raw honey in my tea. I've been advised that raw honey is okay. Thanks for the thumbs up on this S240 as I've wanted to do one in this area for a while low population factor and all it can't hardly compete with you back yard, fortunately it's not a competition as the late Seth Vidal said go ride! We work with what we have :-) Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Once the poison content and addictive nature of sugar is understood what's insane is to keep using sugar. The next step toward sanity is understanding grains are prepubescent sugar with a multitude of anti-nutrients -- natural defenses of the plant, intentionally selected in over the last 10,000 years, to fight off pests. Natural pesticides are even more poison for our bodies to contend with, with little to no nutritional benefit, and even more detriment when the nature of them to bind with vitamins and minerals so our body can't access them is understood. Sounds to me like you are on the road to even more sanity, Hugh. Grin. Have a wonderful group S24O! Sounds like a fantastic time. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:05:23 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: I know this sounds insane but I'm on a refined sugar fast, now in my third week so no full pies coming home but a slice? Definitely a brew or two or... Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM, dougP doug...@cox.net wrote: The Julian Baking Co. is in the same spot as Dudley's. Bring home some pie! dougP On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:09:06 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Tom, Sorry you can't make it, but marital responsibilities trump everything! Thanks for the recommendation, I've been to Dudley's on many occasions and always enjoy their baked goods. We'll plan a day ride soon like Curtis's Bay ride out to Coronado and ferry back ramble soon. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Tom Virgil tevi...@gmail.com wrote: Alas, I have to deal with the ball and chain Friday and into the weekend. I have done most all of this in various separate segments and I know you guys are in for a fantastic time. My one additional recommendation would be that anyone coming up 78 from Escondido to Julian carbo load at Dudley's Bakery in Santa Ysabel. It is at the junction of 78 and 79 before you get to Julian. October specials are German Black and Jalepeno Cheddar breads. Best regards, Tom On Monday, October 14, 2013 4:31:56 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Hey SoCal Riv riders, I know this is extremely shot notice...have been reluctant to make a post as my lower back (Dirt drop upright bars in my horizon) hasn't been cooperating, two weeks ago I had to bail on a ride I organized. Since my back has been given the go ahead here are the details: Friday 18th of October. The place Julian, CA Meet up Bailey Pit Barbecue on Main Street at
[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto top rack, Schwalbe Marathon Duremes, Silver brakes, etc..
Dynamo wheel and wheelset have been claimed. Top rack, Duremes and Silver brakes remain. On Monday, October 14, 2013 10:11:20 AM UTC-7, gordo wrote: Another round of cleaning and minimizing. All prices include shipping in the continental U.S. 1) Nitto R-14 top rack. Used but in very good shape. Comes with mounting bolts (p-clamps have disappeared). - $80 2) Schwalbe Marathon Dureme 700 x50. Brand new in box. I have been saving a few sets of these but it is time to let them go. $120 for a set of 2 tires. 3) Rivendell Silver sidepull brakes. For bikes with recessed mounting. Pads are in pretty good shape. - $50 For sale locally in the SF Bay Area: 1) Front wheel: LX Dynamo hub laced to a 700c Mavic A319 32-hole rim. Only a few hundred miles on it. Includes an Avenir front dynamo light. $125 2) Wheelset: 36-hole XT hubs laced to 700c Mavic A119 rims. Wheels come with rimtape, tubes, Pasaela 700x37 tires, and skewers attached. $160 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
I have spent the past couple of seasons searching for an alternative to drop bars. I started with the classics (Albas and Moustache) but found these to be too wide or too convoluted. After lots of experimenting, I finally settled on classic Porteur bars, set up Moustache-style. http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/9146262436/ I am using both the Grand Bois Elysees bar and the Velo Orange Porteur bar, both in the flipped orientation. I have the straight section angled down about 10 deg, and the brake hoods are sloped down to provide the lever location/sweep that feels natural for my hands. There are some very subtle differences between these bars, and I like the curve on the VO model just a tad more, but I am comfortable with either one. Porteur-style bars like these typically are set up with reverse brake levers or MTB levers and some sort of a thumb shifter, all of which limits the available hand positions. But the two models mentioned here take normal road bike brake levers and bar-end shifters, leaving the bar's sweep available for a range of hand positions. I also find that the forward position of the brake levers feels more secure and comfortable on a downhill. Cheers, Tom Matchak Glen, NH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: An absurd amount of Riv stuff in SF Bay Area
Jose, Thank you for the heads up. I am sure you were over whelmed with interested parties. Ride Safe, Curtis On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:11 PM, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry about the mess. A bit chaotic with the large response. I'm giving priority in dealing with people who are interested in the complete bikes and want the bags to go with it. Apologies if I haven't responded to you yet. I try to keep CL updated, but sometimes there is an update lag on their index. Kevens bag, honey b17, moustache, dirt drop, and axe are gone. Most of the stuff left I am in talks with a local about. Except for the Sunrace thumbshifters. Nobody seems to care about those. I've removed the bags from CL for now since those will probably go with the bikes. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 10:22:33 AM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote: +1 on the Keven's bag. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:53:43 AM UTC-4, Perry wrote: Jose, I never heard back from you on the large sackville and h-bar tape. Should I assume you don't want to ship? Thanks, Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Catalogue
seems to me i remember that. hope i made the 5000 On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:07:06 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: IIRC if you were on the Riv email list then there was a sign up for something like the first 5000 then afterwards they would be available for purchase. I may be wrong about the total number, 5000 seems sort of high. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM, ayjaydee uta...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: who gets them? On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:57:56 AM UTC-7, oli c wrote: Mr Pondero, here is a peek at the centerfold: http://www.flickr.** com/photos/olipop/10232780843/http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/10232780843/ One copy is being traveled to your mailbox as this is being typed. oli in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/jLmPMoML_4s/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
With my bad back ( 61 yrs young ), I have been raising my bars and tilting the my saddle more nose up on my Roadeo. The combination of both moves seems to make the bike feel really good ( handling wise ), while taking a lot of stress off my lower back and my hands. Thank God for quill stems. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:57:52 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote: drop bars offer so many hand positions, I can't see giving that up. I can just see riding into a headwind with upright bars and suffering. Maybe try a shorter stem, so you are a little more upright? ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] 1992 XO-3
I'm gonna sell my beloved but redundant 1992 Bridgestone XO-3 but I want it go to a good home. Right now it is set up with an origin 8 quill stem, soma m'stache bars with sram mtb levers and v-brakes, origin 8 gum/cork grips and VO thumb shifters. I CAN make it original again down to the tires less the original levers and shifters; this means original arc bars! And, COULD include some old cage pedals with khaki/argyIe power grips. I thinks it's a 57. I'm 5'll and it fits great. Not quite as Riv Big as my 56 Sam. Also, it's in Chicago but purchased in Seattle via Prometheus in D.C. I could pack it professionallishly and you pay shipping. Great starter for a cash poor Riv fan. Fair winds, the Captain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos
Wow, that's a nice build. No shortcuts. If I didn't have my Roadeo( a 59cm ), I would jump on that bike. I had a 60 cm Ram and it was slightly a better fit for me. But, for many reasons, I really like my Roadeo. In general, Rivs have a certain handling characteristic that fits me. I am a believer. Don On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:43:10 AM UTC-7, Saturday Mark wrote: Sean, Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for 2400 Frameset Riv Ramouillet Brake Levers SRAM Shifters Silver DT Crank Sugino compact2 Bottom Bracket SKF Brakes Pauls Center Front Derailleur IRD Rear Derailleur Ultegra Cassette Shimano HG80 Chain KMC 9x Stem Nitto Handlebars Nitto Noodle Tape green Headset Ultegra Wheels: .--.Front Hub SON .--.Rear Hub Phil Wood .--.Spokes .--.Rims, 36H Synergy Saddle Brooks B17 CS Green Seatpost Nitto Crystal Tires Schwalbe Durano Pedals Tubes Front Rack Nitto Marks Cage Lamp Edeluxe Decalleur Bag Sackville sm On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote: Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions. Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay - the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing. The consensus seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume, on a AHH). Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go after the 58 cm frame now on ebay. How would being on a frame that is a bit too small affect the way that I feel on the bike. Likewise, what improvement in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)? Sean On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith keith...@gmail.com wrote: No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it seems others have already confirmed this: 60 cm seems just right for you. I am between 6'-1 and 6'-2, but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you, with a long torso. The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly polly/ruffy tuffy tires is just perfect for me - basically touches flesh when flat footed but no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding I'd ever do on this type of bike. And you might remember from the original Riv flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top tubes, specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable sizes. On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding bike I've ever had (including two other rivs), and wouldn't sell it for anything. I had some big bags on mine, before I found my all rounder, and used it more heavily loaded than it was intended for too, with no complaints. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/n6QnZKTBavA/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
Hmm maybe i'm asking for trouble but i used duct tape (actual silver tape used to tape ducts together, rated for heat and water-proofness), and so far it's been ok, using it inside my fenders as well. will see how it held up in a few weeks when i do the yearly checkup. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:53:15 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 1992 XO-3
Pictures and price are customary. On Oct 16, 2013 2:25 PM, Conway Bennett captainconwaybenn...@gmail.com wrote: I'm gonna sell my beloved but redundant 1992 Bridgestone XO-3 but I want it go to a good home. Right now it is set up with an origin 8 quill stem, soma m'stache bars with sram mtb levers and v-brakes, origin 8 gum/cork grips and VO thumb shifters. I CAN make it original again down to the tires less the original levers and shifters; this means original arc bars! And, COULD include some old cage pedals with khaki/argyIe power grips. I thinks it's a 57. I'm 5'll and it fits great. Not quite as Riv Big as my 56 Sam. Also, it's in Chicago but purchased in Seattle via Prometheus in D.C. I could pack it professionallishly and you pay shipping. Great starter for a cash poor Riv fan. Fair winds, the Captain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
I 've also been thinking about this off and on. I've used black electrical tape down the underside of the down tube (works great), and clear packing tape along the underside of the fender leading to the dynamo tailight located there (works terribly poorly, of course; need something better but haven't bothered to try the helicopter tape/100 MPH tape that I've read about). With winter around the corner, I should probably get on a solution for the fender section of the wire run.. KJ On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:31:01 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote: Hmm maybe i'm asking for trouble but i used duct tape (actual silver tape used to tape ducts together, rated for heat and water-proofness), and so far it's been ok, using it inside my fenders as well. will see how it held up in a few weeks when i do the yearly checkup. On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:53:15 AM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. I then went to purchase the tape and found it incredibly expensive and decided looking a wires wasn't so bad after all, on ebay found some 3m stuff at 7.50 for 9 inches. Then today messing around I found a place with racers tape in many different sizes and was able to get 36 feet for 36 bucks or so. Anyway may not be the cheapest may not even work.. i just ordered and will see what happens. In the mean time figured I would share the site I purchased from http://www.racerstape.com/rtp.html Later Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Stolen Romulus In Sacramento?
Perhaps RBW would put a blurb in the blug? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Mount Laguna_S240_San Diego, CA
Amtrak ticket booked. commitments miraclulous fizzled away on Friday. Eagerly looking forward -Evan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
I use aluminum foil HVAC tape for routing cable under the fenders. Easily found at hardware stores. I don't have pictures, but here's manufacturer's info.http://www.3m.com/product/information/Aluminum-Foil-Tape.html Nick On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 8:53:15 AM UTC-7, Kelly wrote: So my the wiring runs I've done on my bikes have all been via zip ties. Then on here someone mentioned helicopter tape which sounded like a great way to do it. Especially if I could run a wire along the underside of a fender. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos
Don, if you have a moment, I would love to learn more about the differences in handling characteristics that you perceive between your Ram and your Rodeo. PS: The Ram that Saturday Cycles has available sounds like an awesome bike. Unfortunately, it is more $ than I am willing to spend right now (just ask my wife!). Sean On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Don Compton dpco...@gmail.com wrote: Wow, that's a nice build. No shortcuts. If I didn't have my Roadeo( a 59cm ), I would jump on that bike. I had a 60 cm Ram and it was slightly a better fit for me. But, for many reasons, I really like my Roadeo. In general, Rivs have a certain handling characteristic that fits me. I am a believer. Don On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:43:10 AM UTC-7, Saturday Mark wrote: Sean, Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for 2400 Frameset Riv Ramouillet Brake Levers SRAM Shifters Silver DT Crank Sugino compact2 Bottom Bracket SKF Brakes Pauls Center Front Derailleur IRD Rear Derailleur Ultegra Cassette Shimano HG80 Chain KMC 9x Stem Nitto Handlebars Nitto Noodle Tape green Headset Ultegra Wheels: .--.Front Hub SON .--.Rear Hub Phil Wood .--.Spokes .--.Rims, 36H Synergy Saddle Brooks B17 CS Green Seatpost Nitto Crystal Tires Schwalbe Durano Pedals Tubes Front Rack Nitto Marks Cage Lamp Edeluxe Decalleur Bag Sackville sm On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote: Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions. Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay - the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing. The consensus seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume, on a AHH). Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go after the 58 cm frame now on ebay. How would being on a frame that is a bit too small affect the way that I feel on the bike. Likewise, what improvement in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)? Sean On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith keith...@gmail.com wrote: No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it seems others have already confirmed this: 60 cm seems just right for you. I am between 6'-1 and 6'-2, but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you, with a long torso. The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly polly/ruffy tuffy tires is just perfect for me - basically touches flesh when flat footed but no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding I'd ever do on this type of bike. And you might remember from the original Riv flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top tubes, specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable sizes. On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding bike I've ever had (including two other rivs), and wouldn't sell it for anything. I had some big bags on mine, before I found my all rounder, and used it more heavily loaded than it was intended for too, with no complaints. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/**n6QnZKTBavA/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/n6QnZKTBavA/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/n6QnZKTBavA/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: PDX Sunrise Coffee Club Tomorrow
I started my 35 mile commute from El Cerrito to South Hayward in the dark this morning and thought of you all. In fact, I got down my mini stove and thought about packing it for a coffee break mid ride. I didn't follow through and do it, but perhaps next time. I try to do that ride once a week. On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:09:32 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: Yes, that's exactly where it happens. http://www.soapboxracer.com/ On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Curtis McKenzie cmc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Wonder pictures. How serene. Is this where they hold the crazy down hill race? A few years ago I was in town and attended a wacky race of gravity powered vehicles. Sadly, I was at work during this time. (in San Diego of course) Curtis On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54c...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Thanks for motivating me out of bed a little earlier than I might otherwise have gotten up. Felt good to get 5 miles and a couple hundred feet climbing in before sunrise... then I got to ride home. Pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157636555160785/ --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos
Please add me to the want to know list. Others' have responded to this question before, to the tune of, The Roadeo handles quicker but I won't mind hearing it all again. I love my Ram, but I've noticed that it is more leisurely in handling than my customs -- ideal, for me, since it makes the Ram a better (rear -- haven't tried front) load carrier than they. And what geometrical, tubing, or other differences between the two models cause a difference in handling? IF I ever do touring, it will be on the Ram -- unless it is dirt road touring, in which case I'll choose the Fargo. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Sean McAtee seanm...@gmail.com wrote: Don, if you have a moment, I would love to learn more about the differences in handling characteristics that you perceive between your Ram and your Rodeo. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 71Hilsen on eBay
That is a sweet build. I have to tell you, though, that I ride that frame, and it would be looong way down to those shifters. I wonder if the seller is having standover issues as well, I have barely enough room over the top tube, but run about double that amount of seat post ( I do have 38mm tires, vs. the 32mm on that bike. Jim in Boulder On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 9:36:29 PM UTC-6, Curtis wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] About to start experimenting with centerpulls
I particularly like the super integrated result when your frame builder uses Paul-specific posts, so there is one fewer layer of tolerance between bushing sleeves. That may very well be the direction I go, eventually On Monday, October 14, 2013 2:10:40 PM UTC-7, Matthew J wrote: No experience with bolt on center pulls. If you ever go custom, I highly recommend considering braze on center pulls. I've had bikes with braze on Mafac Raids and Paul Racers and currently have a bike with Paul Racer Ms. All three stopped with alacrity, had wide range modulation, and were easy to maintain. Would not say braze on center pulls are better than dual pivot side pulls or mini-vees, both of which I've found to do an excellent job. Braze on center pulls do have a very integrated appearance and serve well. On Monday, October 14, 2013 2:18:04 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Small update. I ended up with the wrong size rear funky monkey. Of course it's 28.6mm, just like the front derailer clamp! Nope. Externally butted Seat Tube, means I needed 30.0mm. Bummer. Anyway I did get the front set up. I didn't ride around much with only a front brake, but it seems pretty good. I love the clearance. I am easily able to QR the brake to get the wheel out. Also, I now have a front rack. All good points. BUT..I hate how the arms tilt inward from the pivots. The brake pads cannot hit flush on the brake track. BOO! This means I need a wider rim. I have 19mm wide Mavic Open Pros now, but things would be a lot more squared-up with a 23 or 24mm rim. The way I prefer wide tires, this needed to happen anyway. Time to consider the Velocity A23 in 700c or the Pacenti SL23 in 700c. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:55:29 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Thanks for the replies. I think I'm with all of you: I've used all kinds and they all work fine. None are dramatically better or worse. At least for everything but centerpulls. I've never done a nice centerpull setup. I understand being forced into using cheapie centerpulls for various reasons. What I was curiously looking for was something more specific. For example, I've seen many A Homer Hilsens using Silver Sidepulls, and I've seen many A Homer Hilsens using Paul Racer centerpulls. I'd love to hear somebody say I took off the Silver Sidepulls and installed Paul Racers and the result was . Or, I've seen many Roadeos with Tektro 539s, and a few with Paul Racer M. I wanted to see if anybody specifically swapped from dual pivot to a quality centerpull and thought it changed anything. That's what I'm doing, and I'll certainly share what my observations are. Anyway, I did it partially out of curiosity about centerpulls. I also did it because I wanted a cleanly installed small front rack. I hated running P-clamps with a Marks rack on this bike. I also did it because I think it will open up the fender area. I also did it because I was/am inspired by Sumehra's custom mixte with braze on centerpull brakes. If I love centerpulls, then braze on centerpulls on a custom might make it onto my bucket list. 1. If braking is a wash, and I gain the use of a proper handlebar bag, and improve fender clearance, that's a big win 2. If braking performance is better, and the rack breaks under my handlebar bag, and fender clearance is worse, then I won't know what to do 3. If braking performance is worse, and the rack breaks, then I'll whine like a baby I'm investing a lot in making this setup really as nice as I can. Paul Funky Monkey hangers front and rear are rock solid. These $170 Gran Compe brakes are beefy CNC, not unlike Pauls. The pads come with salmon inserts and accept nice koolstop replacement inserts. Good cables and housing, nice rims. Everything should work great. On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 1:23:31 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote: On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 11:48:45 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I've used center pulls, single pivots, and dual pivots, not to mention cantis and vs, and haven't found centerpulls any better, or much worse, than any of the others. I'll echo Patrick's response. I've used centerpulls for specific situations (like needing cheap longer reach for a 650b conversion, or needing a nutted front brake) but they aren't any better at stopping than a good single or dual pivot sidepull. I've used various Weinman, Mafac, and DiaCompe, and they all seem about the same for stopping power. jim m wc ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit
[RBW] Pittsburgh night ride
Nice ride report. The local bike club has a weekly dinner ride on Wednesday usually which is pretty much year round barring heavy rain, snow, etc.in which everybody runs lights, blinkies, etc.and there's a few of us that do our own thing with evening after work/after dark rides with options stops on the return at local breweries, etc. Fun times. Meade Anderson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Rambouillet or San Marcos
Steve: The bike was always spec'd to carry 37s max. Here's a picture with Pasela 37s. (Those are now replaced by a tan skinwall set in the same size, and tan bar tape.) http://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/4892602448/in/set-72157612148124190 On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:31 AM, stevef stl...@gmail.com wrote: How much clearance do you have around those big tires? I've been thinking about setting my Rambly up with fatter tires and no fenders-tempted by the new, suppler Pasela descendent Soma is offering. (it's a 38mm tire) Got a pic of your bike? Thanks, Steve On Monday, October 14, 2013 7:12:07 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote: Took my Ram out yesterday for a club ride. The 37mm Paselas felt great. every time I get on the bike, I am surprised by how comfortable it is and how well it handles. I've had it with 28mm Contis, but always go back to fatter rubber. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Catalogue
The Righteous Five Thousand. On 10/15/13, ayjaydee utaw...@gmail.com wrote: seems to me i remember that. hope i made the 5000 On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 1:07:06 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: IIRC if you were on the Riv email list then there was a sign up for something like the first 5000 then afterwards they would be available for purchase. I may be wrong about the total number, 5000 seems sort of high. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:52 AM, ayjaydee uta...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: who gets them? On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:57:56 AM UTC-7, oli c wrote: Mr Pondero, here is a peek at the centerfold: http://www.flickr.** com/photos/olipop/10232780843/http://www.flickr.com/photos/olipop/10232780843/ One copy is being traveled to your mailbox as this is being typed. oli in SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/jLmPMoML_4s/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: attaching wires from the dyno to the bike frame.
Hope they come out with wireless, hub powered lights one day. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Ortlieb Packer Pluses have been claimed
I was fortunate to find someone to swap me for a red (!) pair of Rollers, so all is well. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
I actually think the double top tube looks OK on that big frame. Eric but not for me Daume Dublin, OH On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Curtis cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Pittsburgh night ride
Andy - very nice. Looks like a beautiful night. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:53 AM, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: A very pleasant group I've ridden with every Tuesday, April through September has now gone dormant for the dark seasons. Several of us have decided to keep up the riding under the cover of darkness. It's become a celebration of generator hubs and LED headlights. We gather at Tazza d'oro coffee and head out for the highs and lows, enjoying the pretty vast infrastructure available off the roadways where possible. We wound our way through the Carnegie Mellon University campus, through a dark Panther Hollow, along the jail trail and the Hot Metal Bridge (named for the one-time cargo of the insulated railcars taking molten iron or steel across the river to secondary mills) to the South Side. We picked a reasonably desolate path up into the heights of Mount Washington and along the non-view neighborhoods and then crossed the summit line to Grandview Avenue to enjoy the proceeds of our work. Mount Washington had coal seams that were mined horizontally with some opening on the face overlooking town. Chutes delivered it to the riverbank for a simple barge trip to the fires of the steel industry up and down the rivers. Hell with the lid off James Parton wrote in 1868. Certainly different now. This place is now about education, medicine, and technology. Other recent insights include the growing value of the waterfront * mileage,* which had been avoided as the uncomfortable place where industry was. Redevelopment has been managed to value those massive tracts and many bikeway miles have been established along them. The Great Allegheny Passage starts at the fountain in Point State Park and runs upstream along the city side of Monongahela (*Mon*) River, crossing the Hot Metal Bridge and continuing to the town of McKeesport where it picks up the Youghiogheny (*Yock*) River along which it runs into the Allegheny Mountains toward Cumberland, MD then Washington DC via the CO Canal towpath; 325 miles. Too much for tonight. We descended Sycamore Street (part of the old Thrift Drug Classic and The Dirty Dozenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_Dozen_(bicycle_competition)) to Station Square, crossed the very decorative Smithfield Street Bridge to downtown and the jail trail, and back to the start where several of us retired around the corner for a pleasant post ride refreshment and conversation. Nice to keep the positive vibe of the ride group going into dark part of the year. Sure is a glowing plug for lighting, I know it takes little provocation to spill praise for mine. Oh yeah, pictures prove... Pittsburgh Night Ride 10/15https://plus.google.com/photos/109160474815391208206/albums/5935300447174770417?authkey=CIjDnr3508GETA Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
Surely you mean just OK as opposed to on all other bikes where the double TT looks great. :-) - Jim 2TT is now my favorite Warren Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: I actually think the double top tube looks OK on that big frame. Eric but not for me Daume Dublin, OH On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Curtis cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
+one on looking great on all bikes. Benefits. A good hand hold when picking the bike up rather than grabbing a single tubed version with a frame pump in the way and a conversation starter. just my .02. ~Hugh On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:53:25 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: Surely you mean just OK as opposed to on all other bikes where the double TT looks great. :-) - Jim 2TT is now my favorite Warren Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I actually think the double top tube looks OK on that big frame. Eric but not for me Daume Dublin, OH On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Curtis cmc...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
Second Hugh's comment, except that I'm too short so they just make me envious. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:00 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: +one on looking great on all bikes. Benefits. A good hand hold when picking the bike up rather than grabbing a single tubed version with a frame pump in the way and a conversation starter. just my .02. ~Hugh On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:53:25 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote: Surely you mean just OK as opposed to on all other bikes where the double TT looks great. :-) - Jim 2TT is now my favorite Warren Sent from my iPhone On Oct 16, 2013, at 6:30 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.com wrote: I actually think the double top tube looks OK on that big frame. Eric but not for me Daume Dublin, OH On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:36 PM, Curtis cmc...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/**Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-** randonneur-build-/**221299081509?pt=LH_**DefaultDomain_0hash=** item3386740125http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
I have to say that I find double tts on any but the largest frames quite frankly, silly. An extra tube just for looks? Or to provide a handle? Each to his own, but I know I am not alone in my sentiment. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote: Second Hugh's comment, except that I'm too short so they just make me envious. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
Now Patrick who isn't alone in those. -Hugh On Oct 16, 2013 8:08 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say that I find double tts on any but the largest frames quite frankly, silly. An extra tube just for looks? Or to provide a handle? Each to his own, but I know I am not alone in my sentiment. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:03 PM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.orgwrote: Second Hugh's comment, except that I'm too short so they just make me envious. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/v5_6-xdh2Jo/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be justified, I feel rather sad that Grant seems to have put style (a weird one, admittedly) over function. Or am I wrong, and does a dtt on a 56 cm frame serve a real function? Patrick don't want to be negative, really Moore On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Curtis cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
I think there are far worse things to be rather sad about, a bit melodramatic isn't it? On Oct 16, 2013 11:22 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be justified, I feel rather sad that Grant seems to have put style (a weird one, admittedly) over function. Or am I wrong, and does a dtt on a 56 cm frame serve a real function? Patrick don't want to be negative, really Moore On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Curtis cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
Not at all. Of course there are far worse things to be sad about, but if that were our only guiding principle for emotion we'd be unemotional about much that we, in fact, invest emotion in -- double top tubes, pro as well as con, for that matter -- and this list would not exist. I admired Rivendell from the beginning for bucking style trends -- steel when the only good material for a frame was aluminum or titanium; friction when indexing was the only game; long rear-centers and shorter front-centers compared to crit geometries; frames that take wider tires and fenders and racks; and above all Grant's signature feel and handling qualities. He said himself, long ago (I signed up as a member in1994) that Rivendell was product driven, not market driven. Now I don't think Rivendel today is market driven -- I think it drives its own little market, in fact -- but I have seen a trend toward style, albeit idiosyncratic, over function -- tweed mudflaps, dual top tubes on smaller frames, and so forth. So, you say: go elsewhere. But I have emotion invested in Rivendell -- I've owned 5 over the years, not to mention huge quantities of other gear -- and therefore I feel sad when I see what appears to me to be unreasonable designs. So, I believe I do have a right to my own feelings and opinions about Rivendell -- long may it reign! On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I think there are far worse things to be rather sad about, a bit melodramatic isn't it? On Oct 16, 2013 11:22 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be justified, I feel rather sad that Grant seems to have put style (a weird one, admittedly) over function. Or am I wrong, and does a dtt on a 56 cm frame serve a real function? Patrick don't want to be negative, really Moore On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Curtis cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
I don't know if the Double TT is market driven, it seems to be a pretty divisive issue. Far be it for me to deny anyone their feelings about anything, especially Rivendell. But if the market is responding to what they are doing they would be fools to not jump on some of the trends. I would hate to think that its like a vacuum in Walnut Creek. I thin its like 51 flavors, something for everyone. I could personally take or leave the double TT, I am not smarts enough about geometry and planing and whatnot to know if it hurts or helps. I love the way my 56cm Bombadil rides, dunno if it would ride the same with one TT. It would be nice to offer people a choice, however, but that is probably cost prohibitive. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Not at all. Of course there are far worse things to be sad about, but if that were our only guiding principle for emotion we'd be unemotional about much that we, in fact, invest emotion in -- double top tubes, pro as well as con, for that matter -- and this list would not exist. I admired Rivendell from the beginning for bucking style trends -- steel when the only good material for a frame was aluminum or titanium; friction when indexing was the only game; long rear-centers and shorter front-centers compared to crit geometries; frames that take wider tires and fenders and racks; and above all Grant's signature feel and handling qualities. He said himself, long ago (I signed up as a member in1994) that Rivendell was product driven, not market driven. Now I don't think Rivendel today is market driven -- I think it drives its own little market, in fact -- but I have seen a trend toward style, albeit idiosyncratic, over function -- tweed mudflaps, dual top tubes on smaller frames, and so forth. So, you say: go elsewhere. But I have emotion invested in Rivendell -- I've owned 5 over the years, not to mention huge quantities of other gear -- and therefore I feel sad when I see what appears to me to be unreasonable designs. So, I believe I do have a right to my own feelings and opinions about Rivendell -- long may it reign! On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I think there are far worse things to be rather sad about, a bit melodramatic isn't it? On Oct 16, 2013 11:22 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be justified, I feel rather sad that Grant seems to have put style (a weird one, admittedly) over function. Or am I wrong, and does a dtt on a 56 cm frame serve a real function? Patrick don't want to be negative, really Moore On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Curtis cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] ISO 1 Bar-end Cork Grip
I have an Alfine setup on my bike and wanted to go to cork grips. I have a pair of regular non-barends cork grips from Rivendell. I am throwing out a net to see if anyone has one bar-end style grip they would want to trade/sell. I know its a long shot but I thought I would give it a go before I buy two pairs to get the one pair I want. Thanks either way. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
I'll just add this: IF I could afford a Bombadil or Hunquapillar, AND if the frame took disk brakes (I ride 44 mm boutique, lightweight, and expensive rims), I'd buy one in a NY minute, dtt or no. (Though I'd try to disguise the lower tt as a pump or somthing.) On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I don't know if the Double TT is market driven, it seems to be a pretty divisive issue. Far be it for me to deny anyone their feelings about anything, especially Rivendell. But if the market is responding to what they are doing they would be fools to not jump on some of the trends. I would hate to think that its like a vacuum in Walnut Creek. I thin its like 51 flavors, something for everyone. I could personally take or leave the double TT, I am not smarts enough about geometry and planing and whatnot to know if it hurts or helps. I love the way my 56cm Bombadil rides, dunno if it would ride the same with one TT. It would be nice to offer people a choice, however, but that is probably cost prohibitive. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Not at all. Of course there are far worse things to be sad about, but if that were our only guiding principle for emotion we'd be unemotional about much that we, in fact, invest emotion in -- double top tubes, pro as well as con, for that matter -- and this list would not exist. I admired Rivendell from the beginning for bucking style trends -- steel when the only good material for a frame was aluminum or titanium; friction when indexing was the only game; long rear-centers and shorter front-centers compared to crit geometries; frames that take wider tires and fenders and racks; and above all Grant's signature feel and handling qualities. He said himself, long ago (I signed up as a member in1994) that Rivendell was product driven, not market driven. Now I don't think Rivendel today is market driven -- I think it drives its own little market, in fact -- but I have seen a trend toward style, albeit idiosyncratic, over function -- tweed mudflaps, dual top tubes on smaller frames, and so forth. So, you say: go elsewhere. But I have emotion invested in Rivendell -- I've owned 5 over the years, not to mention huge quantities of other gear -- and therefore I feel sad when I see what appears to me to be unreasonable designs. So, I believe I do have a right to my own feelings and opinions about Rivendell -- long may it reign! On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I think there are far worse things to be rather sad about, a bit melodramatic isn't it? On Oct 16, 2013 11:22 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be justified, I feel rather sad that Grant seems to have put style (a weird one, admittedly) over function. Or am I wrong, and does a dtt on a 56 cm frame serve a real function? Patrick don't want to be negative, really Moore On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Curtis cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
I am imagining Patrick hiring a painter to mock up the lower tt as a pump, hahaha. Good times. On Oct 17, 2013 12:31 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'll just add this: IF I could afford a Bombadil or Hunquapillar, AND if the frame took disk brakes (I ride 44 mm boutique, lightweight, and expensive rims), I'd buy one in a NY minute, dtt or no. (Though I'd try to disguise the lower tt as a pump or somthing.) On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I don't know if the Double TT is market driven, it seems to be a pretty divisive issue. Far be it for me to deny anyone their feelings about anything, especially Rivendell. But if the market is responding to what they are doing they would be fools to not jump on some of the trends. I would hate to think that its like a vacuum in Walnut Creek. I thin its like 51 flavors, something for everyone. I could personally take or leave the double TT, I am not smarts enough about geometry and planing and whatnot to know if it hurts or helps. I love the way my 56cm Bombadil rides, dunno if it would ride the same with one TT. It would be nice to offer people a choice, however, but that is probably cost prohibitive. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Not at all. Of course there are far worse things to be sad about, but if that were our only guiding principle for emotion we'd be unemotional about much that we, in fact, invest emotion in -- double top tubes, pro as well as con, for that matter -- and this list would not exist. I admired Rivendell from the beginning for bucking style trends -- steel when the only good material for a frame was aluminum or titanium; friction when indexing was the only game; long rear-centers and shorter front-centers compared to crit geometries; frames that take wider tires and fenders and racks; and above all Grant's signature feel and handling qualities. He said himself, long ago (I signed up as a member in1994) that Rivendell was product driven, not market driven. Now I don't think Rivendel today is market driven -- I think it drives its own little market, in fact -- but I have seen a trend toward style, albeit idiosyncratic, over function -- tweed mudflaps, dual top tubes on smaller frames, and so forth. So, you say: go elsewhere. But I have emotion invested in Rivendell -- I've owned 5 over the years, not to mention huge quantities of other gear -- and therefore I feel sad when I see what appears to me to be unreasonable designs. So, I believe I do have a right to my own feelings and opinions about Rivendell -- long may it reign! On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I think there are far worse things to be rather sad about, a bit melodramatic isn't it? On Oct 16, 2013 11:22 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be justified, I feel rather sad that Grant seems to have put style (a weird one, admittedly) over function. Or am I wrong, and does a dtt on a 56 cm frame serve a real function? Patrick don't want to be negative, really Moore On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Curtis cmcy...@gmail.com wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
I'd venture that we'd sooner see a third top tube (Quadrapillar!) than a disk Riv. Jeff Them's The Brakes Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia On Thursday, October 17, 2013 3:31:26 PM UTC+11, Patrick Moore wrote: I'll just add this: IF I could afford a Bombadil or Hunquapillar, AND if the frame took disk brakes (I ride 44 mm boutique, lightweight, and expensive rims), I'd buy one in a NY minute, dtt or no. (Though I'd try to disguise the lower tt as a pump or somthing.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] 71Hilsen on eBay
Patrick, Though I'd try to disguise the lower tt as a pump or somthing, Isn't that style? Your style. The beauty is that you have a choice. but I have seen a trend toward style, albeit idiosyncratic, over function -- tweed mudflaps, dual top tubes on smaller frames, and so forth Sad about style over function the two the two can be mutual, as far as I can tell Riv does a pretty good job of offering an alternative to the myriad of choices out there and as far as idiosyncratic, thank heaven for different...and sometimes a design even from the most heralded can fall short... I bow down to a mistake, for from doing thus I learn. I don't intend to be snarky using *red* it's just late I'm short cutting it. ~HughStyle Smitham On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 9:31:26 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: I'll just add this: IF I could afford a Bombadil or Hunquapillar, AND if the frame took disk brakes (I ride 44 mm boutique, lightweight, and expensive rims), I'd buy one in a NY minute, dtt or no. (Though I'd try to disguise the lower tt as a pump or somthing.) On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I don't know if the Double TT is market driven, it seems to be a pretty divisive issue. Far be it for me to deny anyone their feelings about anything, especially Rivendell. But if the market is responding to what they are doing they would be fools to not jump on some of the trends. I would hate to think that its like a vacuum in Walnut Creek. I thin its like 51 flavors, something for everyone. I could personally take or leave the double TT, I am not smarts enough about geometry and planing and whatnot to know if it hurts or helps. I love the way my 56cm Bombadil rides, dunno if it would ride the same with one TT. It would be nice to offer people a choice, however, but that is probably cost prohibitive. On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:38 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Not at all. Of course there are far worse things to be sad about, but if that were our only guiding principle for emotion we'd be unemotional about much that we, in fact, invest emotion in -- double top tubes, pro as well as con, for that matter -- and this list would not exist. I admired Rivendell from the beginning for bucking style trends -- steel when the only good material for a frame was aluminum or titanium; friction when indexing was the only game; long rear-centers and shorter front-centers compared to crit geometries; frames that take wider tires and fenders and racks; and above all Grant's signature feel and handling qualities. He said himself, long ago (I signed up as a member in1994) that Rivendell was product driven, not market driven. Now I don't think Rivendel today is market driven -- I think it drives its own little market, in fact -- but I have seen a trend toward style, albeit idiosyncratic, over function -- tweed mudflaps, dual top tubes on smaller frames, and so forth. So, you say: go elsewhere. But I have emotion invested in Rivendell -- I've owned 5 over the years, not to mention huge quantities of other gear -- and therefore I feel sad when I see what appears to me to be unreasonable designs. So, I believe I do have a right to my own feelings and opinions about Rivendell -- long may it reign! On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Peter Morgano uscpet...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I think there are far worse things to be rather sad about, a bit melodramatic isn't it? On Oct 16, 2013 11:22 PM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Y'know, I didn't have to make that negative remark -- I know may listers like the dtts. But, to justify my remark, as far as it needs to be justified, I feel rather sad that Grant seems to have put style (a weird one, admittedly) over function. Or am I wrong, and does a dtt on a 56 cm frame serve a real function? Patrick don't want to be negative, really Moore On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Curtis cmc...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Nice bike for the tall folks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-A-Homer-Hilsen-71cm-randonneur-build-/221299081509?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3386740125 Ride Safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this
Re: [RBW] Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways
It may be that I'm morphing again, and should have trusted my gut originally. I really enjoyed the VO Porteur bars on my AHH after not liking a set of 46cm Noodles, but I've since settled on 42cm Noodles for that bike. However, I have the Albastaches on my Hunqa, and really like the full-time upright and forward brake positions. I am also losing my interest in the extreme variation the Boscos give (on my backup commuter). I am currently planning on stowing those for my next foray into cruisers or my elderly years, and getting back to the Porteur bars that are just so right. They are narrow, have at least 3 hand positions, and do at least 100k without hand pain. Sticking with the Noodles for the long rides, however (over 200k). Brian Seattle, WA On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 6:31:22 AM UTC-7, Tom Matchak wrote: I have spent the past couple of seasons searching for an alternative to drop bars. I started with the classics (Albas and Moustache) but found these to be too wide or too convoluted. After lots of experimenting, I finally settled on classic Porteur bars, set up Moustache-style. http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/34156114@N05/9146262436/ I am using both the Grand Bois Elysees bar and the Velo Orange Porteur bar, both in the flipped orientation. I have the straight section angled down about 10 deg, and the brake hoods are sloped down to provide the lever location/sweep that feels natural for my hands. There are some very subtle differences between these bars, and I like the curve on the VO model just a tad more, but I am comfortable with either one. Porteur-style bars like these typically are set up with reverse brake levers or MTB levers and some sort of a thumb shifter, all of which limits the available hand positions. But the two models mentioned here take normal road bike brake levers and bar-end shifters, leaving the bar's sweep available for a range of hand positions. I also find that the forward position of the brake levers feels more secure and comfortable on a downhill. Cheers, Tom Matchak Glen, NH -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
