[RBW] Re: bridgestone posters for sale at Riv!
Methinks that attic must be the retrogrouch's Field of Dreams. Next up: three dozen Mavic starfish cranks and a metric tonne of Nuovo Record gum hoods. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: wtb: 52cm Rivendell Bombadil
Ah look right above your post :-) https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/cyWi-nqvSe0 ~Hugh On Monday, October 21, 2013 9:06:21 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote: On the lookout for a cool 52cm Bombadil. If you're looking to part with yours let's talk! Thanks! - Eric -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: bridgestone posters for sale at Riv!
Simplex derailers! On Monday, October 21, 2013 11:36:53 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote: Methinks that attic must be the retrogrouch's Field of Dreams. Next up: three dozen Mavic starfish cranks and a metric tonne of Nuovo Record gum hoods. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
A complex series of thoughts and my own experience with various materials in no particular order: -- I detest synthetics. All I've ever owned (and that's a lot from when I was 14 and began backpacking in earnest and when I wised up at 35. Wow, 16 years of stupidity) hold scents through washings (and that's before my disability and ultra sensitivity to -- and we're talking stink, not just soap perfume and such). They are just plain bulky for their warmth and they do not move well with me. Blech. That said, I've never tried primaloft, so I'm no help to you there. I do know folks who swear by the stuff, Wiggy's being one of them and his gear is for high altitude alpining. Synthetics melt, wool doesn't (though it singes if held to the fire). Sparks from a campfire have turned may a fleece garment of mine into pox-marked swiss cheese as parts got turned back into milk-bottle-plastic. Never had that problem with wool. -- Layers are best. As you no doubt know, there is a dramatic difference between sitting in camp and moving on a bike in what you need to wear. The more you understand what works for you the better you will be prepared. My waist up layers are these: -- wool t-shirt -- thicker wool long-johns. -- Cotton Chambrey shirt (great by itself as a sun shirt, or over the t- or long john as a wind breaker when colder -- when riding, that system works down to the 40's if no rain.) -- Wooly Warm Sargent's Sweater (generally only worn in camp or on a lingering stop) -- Down vest (from Feathered Friends, their warmest vest). I have only warn this in camp. The feeling of radiant eat that it gives is amazing and unparalleled by any synthetics I've ever worn. -- For any temps below 20˚F, I'll take a Filson's bomber jacket as a final insulating layer. -- Rain jacket. the Pricy but perfect ventile. Fantastic layer over just my t-shirt, some of it, or all of it and I can wear it riding or at camp equally well. I put it on based on temp and wind and of course precipitation. -- merino wool neck gaiter from Buff. -- billed Possum hat (two layers thick) -- Tilley cotton sun hat. -- wool lined leather gloves. The flexibility of these layers gives me a temp range of 100˚F+ down to 0˚F or below if needed at minimal space (it all fits in my large SaddleSack). The disadvantage of down is it loses most (all?) insulating capacity if it gets wet. Thus, the key is to keep it from getting wet. That's why it's a poor layer to ride in (it's also generally too warm for riding in but you'll be sweating in it, but it's perfect for stops or around camp. Definitely have a good rain jacket for over it if needed -- though I only wear mine at 25˚F or lower, so it's snow at that point. Long descent ahead? Down may be perfect, though unless you know the descent I still prefer will because there are always unexpected hills to climb along the way. -- Given the (warmth) weight of the garments you are considering, I'd personally suggest neither and turn you toward a Wooly Warm sweater. I love the Sargent's version for the elbow patches and my reality of living on the ground, which involves elbow abuse. A bit more bulk and weight? Likely. But for me it's well worth it. -- It really boils down to what is the temperature range and sun/rain/snow/wind range you need to be ready for. In my case camping in the Colorado mountains, it's 90˚F to 20˚F in summer, colder Spring and Fall, and I don't camp in winter, with the possibility of any weather within 5 minutes of each other. -- I've learned the hard way that skimping on clothing is a bad way to go. Figure out the best garments for the widest range of your activity and weather needs, then find a way to pay for them (paying referring to money, weight and bulk). My down vest is compact and nearly no weight, but is seldom used above 20˚F. The rest of my layers are used all the time year round and are heavier/bulkier than their synthetic counterparts, but I am much happier in them and have a much better experience because of that. -- As ever, your milage may vary. See your doctor before doing anything if you are that type of person. And other obvious not my fault if you take my advice disclaimers. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Monday, October 21, 2013 9:21:37 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the
Re: [RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2XoCS_sfGUc/UmZpM9c3UdI/APM/n1-lhmq-aLM/s1600/Surly+Platrack.jpg I remembered this morning the one issue I have had with the Platrack in the real world; no product is perfect I guess. I have the Platrack mounted on my 56cm Surly LHT with 26 wheels. On occasion, when lifting the bike, the front wheel will flop/turn and the rack will strike the downtube. The more weight on the rack, the faster the wheel will turn and the harder the rack strikes the downtube. In the photo below, you can see where it took a chunk out of the powdercoating near the downtube shifter boss. (Fortunately the bike is black and it doesn't show too much. However, on a nicely painted Rivendell, it would be a bummer.) I have now learned to be more careful and this has not happened more than a few times. Also, a Kleen Kanteen in my bottle cage sticks up high enough that it stops the platrack from striking the frame should the wheel flop when I am lifting it. Safe cycling, Erl PS: I know you have a moratorium on buying bike luggage, but I love the Slickersack on the Platrack! Its only downside, as Hugh mentioned, is the snaps do not hold well. On Monday, October 21, 2013 10:48:11 AM UTC-4, Minh wrote: Thanks all for the feedback, follow-up question. I was planning on putting the med wald basket back on the platrack, but looking at Jays pictures, i'd lose the ability to really pile stuff on there, anyone come up with a happy medium between the flexibility that Jay shows in his pics versus the risk/danger that Tom highlights with not running some kind of platform on top? Slickersack is out for me as i have a moratorium on new bike luggage ;) Tom unrelated question, it looks like you were able to get a Gino mount attached to the lower arms of a Nitto Mini Front Rack, what hardware did you use to secure it? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
My choice would be to opt for breathable shell and insulation layers - you can always peel and stuff insulation layers, and still have protection from wind and wet, while a heavy coat is either on or off. A quality parka shell is worth the price. Sounds crazy expensive, but paid $400 for a North Face shell in 1986, and it is still my daily winter jacket after 27 years and it still looks good. It still gets compliments. On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:40:58 AM UTC-5, sameness wrote: Consider layers over loft? I get cold as well, and find that I'm* better served with my light-ish, nominally insulated Marmot wind jacket over a fleece zip-up or sweater underneath, plus regular shirt, undershirt, etc. That way my temp doesn't plummet when I remove my jacket and hop in the sleeping bag. I've had it for years and years, so unsure of exact model, but I'm pretty sure it's part of the DriClime range, and the Stride Jackethttp://marmot.com/products/stride_jacket?p=193,129ft=129appears to be their closest current iteration. I wanna say I paid $80 or so at REI. Bonus, I also get to use it across more seasons by just subtracting layers as the weather permits. *Just me, definitely not everyone else, and possibly not anyone else Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Zefel hand pump maintenance tips
will this rebuild kit work for you? http://store.biketouringnews.com/zefal-hpx-pump-head-rebuild-kit/ http://store.biketouringnews.com/zefal-hpx-pump-head-rebuild-kit/I finally gave up on mine of that age and replaced it with a late HPX Classic (before Riv carried them). Still the volume/stroke champ of frame pumps. I bought a Lezyne Road Drive to have something on my go-fast, and have been really impressed with the speed and capacity of this pump as minis go. On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:24:23 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here's a photo of the pump for reference: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9725707307/ On Monday, October 21, 2013 7:22:16 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: My Zefel hand pump is over 25 years old and I've never maintained it. However, it's getting harder to get a seal on the presto valve and is becoming stiff to pump. I presume I should unscrew the barrel and lube it and perhaps lube or replace the seal at the valve clamp. Anyone done this? Any tips? Any ideas on getting info on this before I do it? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
-- I detest synthetics. All I've ever owned (and that's a lot from when I was 14 and began backpacking in earnest and when I wised up at 35. Wow, 16 years of stupidity) hold scents through washings (and that's before my disability and ultra sensitivity to -- and we're talking stink, not just soap perfume and such). They are just plain bulky for their warmth and they do not move well with me. Blech. That said, I've never tried primaloft, so I'm no help to you there. I do know folks who swear by the stuff, Wiggy's being one of them and his gear is for high altitude alpining. Synthetics melt, wool doesn't (though it singes if held to the fire). Sparks from a campfire have turned may a fleece garment of mine into pox-marked swiss cheese as parts got turned back into milk-bottle-plastic. Never had that problem with wool. New synthetic insulation such as primaloft is much better than the older stuff. Ibex now offers jackets and vests with wool insulation. Apparently very good warm to weight ratio but there are complaints about the zippers. Won't be getting it at LL Bean and REI prices though. I otherwise concur with your approach. I wear layers topped with a wind breaker throughout the (not as cold as they used to be) northern Midwestern winters. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Zefel hand pump maintenance tips
Oooo! Fantastic. Ordered from Amazon. Thanks, Ron. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:34:17 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: will this rebuild kit work for you? http://store.biketouringnews.com/zefal-hpx-pump-head-rebuild-kit/ http://store.biketouringnews.com/zefal-hpx-pump-head-rebuild-kit/I finally gave up on mine of that age and replaced it with a late HPX Classic (before Riv carried them). Still the volume/stroke champ of frame pumps. I bought a Lezyne Road Drive to have something on my go-fast, and have been really impressed with the speed and capacity of this pump as minis go. On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:24:23 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: Here's a photo of the pump for reference: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/9725707307/ On Monday, October 21, 2013 7:22:16 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: My Zefel hand pump is over 25 years old and I've never maintained it. However, it's getting harder to get a seal on the presto valve and is becoming stiff to pump. I presume I should unscrew the barrel and lube it and perhaps lube or replace the seal at the valve clamp. Anyone done this? Any tips? Any ideas on getting info on this before I do it? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
I have worn both Primaloft jackets and down jackets for years. The LLBean jacket you list is only 60gm weight per yard, which is very very light insulation, barely warmer than a 200 weight fleece . The down jacket you listed is going to be much warmer, suitable for non riding/camp activities, which is what I assume you are wanting it for . Primaloft does lose loft from frequent compression, down of course, does not. Down lasts as long as you care for it. Water repellent is not a big thing at camp as I assume you have shelter ! I own both down and Primaloft jackets, when I want the most warm for the least amount of weight and space, down is THE way :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Question / Poll/ Crazy idea? Read on...
I think it's a really cool idea, and I like the name Read On. Once you've got a book club going like that, it seems like it would transcend the physical book-shipping, and people who liked what they read about the Bartali book might just go buy it. Would they be allowed to chime in with their opinions? It would be cool if once a book was spent, it ended up in a central location. What's this? Why do people keep sending random books to Bike Book and Hatchet?? Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:13:35 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Hugh: That's a great idea I'd be pleased to be part of the group. Somewhere I recall reading (maybe Kent's Bike Blog or Book Blog?) about the notion of meeting a friend for coffee exchanging books, the idea being the group size increased as one had to find new people to pass books along to. When you think about it, we all buy books that we read once, perhaps our SO reads it, then it becomes household clutter. dougP On Monday, October 21, 2013 5:27:07 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Hi Bunch, Back in August some of us SoCal Rivsters did an S240 down in Southern Orange County (San Onofre) were okay and our RAD levels are normal...my Friend Curtis loaned me a book Road to Valor The Gino Bartali story that he picked up on a Summer vacation visiting I believe his daughter in Massachusetts, he had this idea of passing the book along and seeing where and who it ended up with...I could have just given it to anyone but have been mulling over how to do this? The story is fantastic. Here's my thought. I could start a topic offering the book for someone to read send it, they read it sign it and then offer it to the next soul to read...that sounds nice but how to keep track of it? Perhaps I thought I could make a new group devoted to media about bicycling, then once you've finished the media you make your comments about it...then pass it along paying it forward. The media title would be the post and all subsequent readers would say who they are and what city they're in and make comments sort of like an informal book club.I or anyone then can post a topic here directing to the other group. Well there it is...comments welcome. Once I get a feel about this (feedback) I'll decide to either proceed or come up with another way.Of course Jim E. let me know if this would pollute this group and I'll make it completely independent. Best Intentions, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: BART strike meets more bike riding.
You're so lucky to ride with family. Great set, Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: About to start experimenting with centerpulls
Wow. I liked the bike 'before,' but 'after' is visually a lot lighter. Prettier. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, October 21, 2013 6:47:56 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Thanks for that. I finished up with the initial setup. Here's the before: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/10237186425_f38e3e5b1a_z.jpg And here's after: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/10383159085_5010e3d1ce_z.jpg Copious pictures on my flickr, as usual: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157636508980195/ Anyway the switch was from Tektro 559s mid-reach dual pivots to Gran Compe 610 centerpulls. Also we added the Gran Compe Ciclo ENE mini front rack. That enabled me to move over a Berthoud decaleur from another bike for a proper handlebar bag setup with my Loyal Designs front bag. Extra clearance earned provoked me to try out a pair of 700x35 Pasela tires that I had in the tire box. I of course still have the 700x30 Challenge Eroicas that came off the bike and will likely use them again soon. Finally, just for fun, I swapped Flite saddles between bikes to convert from Black to Blue, and I did a new Blue Newbaums wrap job to tie it together. I only rode up and down my 12% hill a few times, but first impression is the centerpulls are substantially more powerful, and the modulation seems excellent. The harder you grab the more they stop. So far, positive reviews. Time will tell. On Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:13:30 PM UTC-7, Johan Larsson wrote: On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:30:30 PM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote: /.../ Anyway, can anyone share about changing straight from modern dual pivot caliper brakes to centerpulls and liking them better? I'm interested to hear about it. /.../ Well, I liked Weinmann 610's better than the original (single pivot) brakes on my XO-1 because they had much better clearance for fenders. 40 mm Berthoud fenders worked well with those centerpull brakes while the original brakes only could handle 30 mm fenders. The Weinmann/Dia Compe 610 brakes are as powerful as I could wish for, no problems at all. Johan, Sweden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Question / Poll/ Crazy idea? Read on...
Just Read Bound Together Gotcha Covered Enjoy the Read Spoke and Spine BiblioVelophile Velophied Signature Pedalers VeloProse Plotting Pedalers I'll stop now. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:29:43 AM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote: I think it's a really cool idea, and I like the name Read On. Once you've got a book club going like that, it seems like it would transcend the physical book-shipping, and people who liked what they read about the Bartali book might just go buy it. Would they be allowed to chime in with their opinions? It would be cool if once a book was spent, it ended up in a central location. What's this? Why do people keep sending random books to Bike Book and Hatchet?? Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:13:35 PM UTC-7, dougP wrote: Hugh: That's a great idea I'd be pleased to be part of the group. Somewhere I recall reading (maybe Kent's Bike Blog or Book Blog?) about the notion of meeting a friend for coffee exchanging books, the idea being the group size increased as one had to find new people to pass books along to. When you think about it, we all buy books that we read once, perhaps our SO reads it, then it becomes household clutter. dougP On Monday, October 21, 2013 5:27:07 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Hi Bunch, Back in August some of us SoCal Rivsters did an S240 down in Southern Orange County (San Onofre) were okay and our RAD levels are normal...my Friend Curtis loaned me a book Road to Valor The Gino Bartali story that he picked up on a Summer vacation visiting I believe his daughter in Massachusetts, he had this idea of passing the book along and seeing where and who it ended up with...I could have just given it to anyone but have been mulling over how to do this? The story is fantastic. Here's my thought. I could start a topic offering the book for someone to read send it, they read it sign it and then offer it to the next soul to read...that sounds nice but how to keep track of it? Perhaps I thought I could make a new group devoted to media about bicycling, then once you've finished the media you make your comments about it...then pass it along paying it forward. The media title would be the post and all subsequent readers would say who they are and what city they're in and make comments sort of like an informal book club.I or anyone then can post a topic here directing to the other group. Well there it is...comments welcome. Once I get a feel about this (feedback) I'll decide to either proceed or come up with another way.Of course Jim E. let me know if this would pollute this group and I'll make it completely independent. Best Intentions, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Question / Poll/ Crazy idea? Read on...
I like the idea a lot. Tom On Monday, October 21, 2013 5:27:07 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Hi Bunch, Back in August some of us SoCal Rivsters did an S240 down in Southern Orange County (San Onofre) were okay and our RAD levels are normal...my Friend Curtis loaned me a book Road to Valor The Gino Bartali story that he picked up on a Summer vacation visiting I believe his daughter in Massachusetts, he had this idea of passing the book along and seeing where and who it ended up with...I could have just given it to anyone but have been mulling over how to do this? The story is fantastic. Here's my thought. I could start a topic offering the book for someone to read send it, they read it sign it and then offer it to the next soul to read...that sounds nice but how to keep track of it? Perhaps I thought I could make a new group devoted to media about bicycling, then once you've finished the media you make your comments about it...then pass it along paying it forward. The media title would be the post and all subsequent readers would say who they are and what city they're in and make comments sort of like an informal book club.I or anyone then can post a topic here directing to the other group. Well there it is...comments welcome. Once I get a feel about this (feedback) I'll decide to either proceed or come up with another way.Of course Jim E. let me know if this would pollute this group and I'll make it completely independent. Best Intentions, ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Sam Hillborne on SF craigslist
On Monday, October 21, 2013 9:01:00 AM UTC-7, redsydude wrote: I bought one of the (incorrectly painted) 2 top tube 56 cm Sam Hillborne framesets on the web specials page two months ago knowing that it would be really difficult to resell if I didn't like it. Rivendell had trouble selling them and they got some negative comments here. I think its a love or hate thing. If you love the double top tube, then this is a great deal. However, if you hate the double top tube, then this is over priced. I still don't understand the need for two top tubes, especially for a 56cm bike, but for those who like it, here's your chance to get one cheap! Good Luck! On Sunday, October 20, 2013 9:23:45 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Well, the reason I call it cheap is only because seems like lotsa oold Rivs I have seen online for sale have asking prices that are for more than their original values from when they were production bikes. Those, I just don't get.. I could understand if they have Son hubs and Phil stuff and Herse this and Rich- built that... Anyway, this Sam being only year old, the seller is being extremely fair for his asking price. It would have made my day when I was looking for my first used Rivbike... and if I was a 56 size. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: About to start experimenting with centerpulls
I've said it before, but I'll say it again: complements from the Tinker carry weight. I fish for complements fairly often, but when I hook the Tinker, then I know I've got something. On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:32:45 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: Wow. I liked the bike 'before,' but 'after' is visually a lot lighter. Prettier. Philip www.biketinker.com On Monday, October 21, 2013 6:47:56 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Thanks for that. I finished up with the initial setup. Here's the before: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/10237186425_f38e3e5b1a_z.jpg And here's after: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/10383159085_5010e3d1ce_z.jpg Copious pictures on my flickr, as usual: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157636508980195/ Anyway the switch was from Tektro 559s mid-reach dual pivots to Gran Compe 610 centerpulls. Also we added the Gran Compe Ciclo ENE mini front rack. That enabled me to move over a Berthoud decaleur from another bike for a proper handlebar bag setup with my Loyal Designs front bag. Extra clearance earned provoked me to try out a pair of 700x35 Pasela tires that I had in the tire box. I of course still have the 700x30 Challenge Eroicas that came off the bike and will likely use them again soon. Finally, just for fun, I swapped Flite saddles between bikes to convert from Black to Blue, and I did a new Blue Newbaums wrap job to tie it together. I only rode up and down my 12% hill a few times, but first impression is the centerpulls are substantially more powerful, and the modulation seems excellent. The harder you grab the more they stop. So far, positive reviews. Time will tell. On Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:13:30 PM UTC-7, Johan Larsson wrote: On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 8:30:30 PM UTC+2, Bill Lindsay wrote: /.../ Anyway, can anyone share about changing straight from modern dual pivot caliper brakes to centerpulls and liking them better? I'm interested to hear about it. /.../ Well, I liked Weinmann 610's better than the original (single pivot) brakes on my XO-1 because they had much better clearance for fenders. 40 mm Berthoud fenders worked well with those centerpull brakes while the original brakes only could handle 30 mm fenders. The Weinmann/Dia Compe 610 brakes are as powerful as I could wish for, no problems at all. Johan, Sweden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback
Does anyone recall what Rivendell said the weight limit is for the Platrack? Should I keep the load limited to lightweight stuff? Thanks, John On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:21:58 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: OkDokee, So i've been using a basket on my Nitto Mini Front for about a year, overall happy with it, but with heavier loads it was a little wobbly (it was secured with many zip-ties) it was never dangerous but i just wanted something a little more secure to zip-tie to so picked up a platrack second-hand. Now that i have it on there, wow, those stays that extend down to the dropout are really out there, i just have it in the bike-stand at the moment, so maybe it's just a spatial/visual perception issue, but it looks like a wide stance. My question is for those who use the platrack on a regular basis, any issue with the stays extending so far out to the sides? Any other issues i'm not aware of with this rack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
if it is specific to riding (i.e. you are planning on wearing it while you ride!) i have a marmot dri clime jacket that is awesome. it is my go-to cold weather jacket. i wore mine all through vermont winters. the key is that it blocks the wind. it's almost like magic. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback
As I recall it was made to fit on a Mark's rack or Nitto mini which Rivendell rates the following: Capacities: Mini front rack or Mark’s: 4.4 lb. Top Rack: 13lb Rear rack, Med or Big: 44lb Big Front racks: 30lb Safe cycling, Erl On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:34:24 PM UTC-4, jphil...@me.com wrote: Does anyone recall what Rivendell said the weight limit is for the Platrack? Should I keep the load limited to lightweight stuff? Thanks, John On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:21:58 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: OkDokee, So i've been using a basket on my Nitto Mini Front for about a year, overall happy with it, but with heavier loads it was a little wobbly (it was secured with many zip-ties) it was never dangerous but i just wanted something a little more secure to zip-tie to so picked up a platrack second-hand. Now that i have it on there, wow, those stays that extend down to the dropout are really out there, i just have it in the bike-stand at the moment, so maybe it's just a spatial/visual perception issue, but it looks like a wide stance. My question is for those who use the platrack on a regular basis, any issue with the stays extending so far out to the sides? Any other issues i'm not aware of with this rack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Garth, Well stated! I'm glad to hear you have both an were so able to define the differences for me. Thanks! Down is now in the lead. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I have worn both Primaloft jackets and down jackets for years. The LLBean jacket you list is only 60gm weight per yard, which is very very light insulation, barely warmer than a 200 weight fleece . The down jacket you listed is going to be much warmer, suitable for non riding/camp activities, which is what I assume you are wanting it for . Primaloft does lose loft from frequent compression, down of course, does not. Down lasts as long as you care for it. Water repellent is not a big thing at camp as I assume you have shelter ! I own both down and Primaloft jackets, when I want the most warm for the least amount of weight and space, down is THE way :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
Hello all, This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost with it's own FS subject line. Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good stories. Cheers, BykMor Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront DerailleurIRD Rear Derailleur UltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cm TapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter White built).--.Front Hub SONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette.--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS GreenSeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto- Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp EdeluxDecalleur BagSackville sm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
Attributes of the Ram vs the *San Marcos* of course. Sorry for any confusion ;-) On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:20:23 PM UTC-6, BykMor wrote: Hello all, This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost with it's own FS subject line. Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good stories. Cheers, BykMor Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront Derailleur IRD Rear DerailleurUltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cmTapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter White built).--.Front HubSONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette.--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS GreenSeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto- Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp Edelux DecalleurBagSackville sm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS - Sackville TrunkSack small (olive) - $60
TrunkSack has been sold. Thanks! -Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Sackville TrunkSack small (olive) - $60
I had Riv send the e-gift certificate directly to your email; it should be there by tomorrow. Once you get it, please ship to: Tim Gavin 3225 12th Ave SW Cedar Rapids, IA 52404 Thanks! On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM, sean seanobr...@hotmail.com wrote: TrunkSack has been sold. Thanks! -Sean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback
But the Platrack has two additional straight supports to the front dropouts. I've loaded a LOT more than 4.4 lbs on my Platracks. The limit is not what the rack will carry but how much handling degradation I'm willing to tolerate. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of WETH Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:03 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback As I recall it was made to fit on a Mark's rack or Nitto mini which Rivendell rates the following: Capacities: Mini front rack or Mark's: 4.4 lb. Top Rack: 13lb Rear rack, Med or Big: 44lb Big Front racks: 30lb Safe cycling, Erl On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:34:24 PM UTC-4, jphil...@me.commailto:jphil...@me.com wrote: Does anyone recall what Rivendell said the weight limit is for the Platrack? Should I keep the load limited to lightweight stuff? Thanks, John On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:21:58 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: OkDokee, So i've been using a basket on my Nitto Mini Front for about a year, overall happy with it, but with heavier loads it was a little wobbly (it was secured with many zip-ties) it was never dangerous but i just wanted something a little more secure to zip-tie to so picked up a platrack second-hand. Now that i have it on there, wow, those stays that extend down to the dropout are really out there, i just have it in the bike-stand at the moment, so maybe it's just a spatial/visual perception issue, but it looks like a wide stance. My question is for those who use the platrack on a regular basis, any issue with the stays extending so far out to the sides? Any other issues i'm not aware of with this rack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
I'm a layers man myself... wool and fleece underneath and a shell if conditions call for it. I like the versatility of layers. A Wolly Warm vest is a great insulation investment. I've always been envious of other's down jackets for the weight/warmth ratio. I picked up a patagonia quarter-zip down pullover sweater a few years ago. It was certainly warm, light and compressible. I used it on a few backpacking trips, but the swish-swish every time I moved drove me nuts. I'm never bothered by the swish-swish of others... just my own. I got rid of the sweater. I love my down sleeping bag... same swish-swish sound. Perhaps I move less in my sleep. Under the influence of AHH owner/list member Chris Chen, I recently bought a new shell from JG Cyclewear. So far so good. What Zack said about blocking the wind... I've found that to be the key to staying warm. Also, a good tight knit wool beanie that covers your ears, wind resistant gloves and wool socks/leather shoes. Good luck, Hugh. --Smitty On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:21:37 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback
The two ways I run the platrack are: With the slickersack, any thing and everything I can get into the bag Without the slickersack, tent, sleeping bag and thermarest all go on the platrack with straps and a net. I have always run the platrack on the Nitto Mini Front, never on the Mark's rack. Regarding the struts, many have run the platrack struts down to the mid-fork braze on, rather than all the way down to the dropout. That way you can still run a lowrider and panniers for an uber-front loader On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24:20 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: But the Platrack has two additional straight supports to the front dropouts. I’ve loaded a LOT more than 4.4 lbs on my Platracks. The limit is not what the rack will carry but how much handling degradation I’m willing to tolerate. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *WETH *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:03 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback As I recall it was made to fit on a Mark's rack or Nitto mini which Rivendell rates the following: Capacities: Mini front rack or Mark’s: 4.4 lb. Top Rack: 13lb Rear rack, Med or Big: 44lb Big Front racks: 30lb Safe cycling, Erl On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:34:24 PM UTC-4, jphil...@me.com wrote: Does anyone recall what Rivendell said the weight limit is for the Platrack? Should I keep the load limited to lightweight stuff? Thanks, John On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:21:58 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: OkDokee, So i've been using a basket on my Nitto Mini Front for about a year, overall happy with it, but with heavier loads it was a little wobbly (it was secured with many zip-ties) it was never dangerous but i just wanted something a little more secure to zip-tie to so picked up a platrack second-hand. Now that i have it on there, wow, those stays that extend down to the dropout are really out there, i just have it in the bike-stand at the moment, so maybe it's just a spatial/visual perception issue, but it looks like a wide stance. My question is for those who use the platrack on a regular basis, any issue with the stays extending so far out to the sides? Any other issues i'm not aware of with this rack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Andy, that's why I only wear my down vest under my rain jacket. No swish swish. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:34:25 PM UTC-6, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: I'm a layers man myself... wool and fleece underneath and a shell if conditions call for it. I like the versatility of layers. A Wolly Warm vest is a great insulation investment. I've always been envious of other's down jackets for the weight/warmth ratio. I picked up a patagonia quarter-zip down pullover sweater a few years ago. It was certainly warm, light and compressible. I used it on a few backpacking trips, but the swish-swish every time I moved drove me nuts. I'm never bothered by the swish-swish of others... just my own. I got rid of the sweater. I love my down sleeping bag... same swish-swish sound. Perhaps I move less in my sleep. Under the influence of AHH owner/list member Chris Chen, I recently bought a new shell from JG Cyclewear. So far so good. What Zack said about blocking the wind... I've found that to be the key to staying warm. Also, a good tight knit wool beanie that covers your ears, wind resistant gloves and wool socks/leather shoes. Good luck, Hugh. --Smitty On Monday, October 21, 2013 8:21:37 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback
I'll add a third way, sometimes I tie on a Wald large basket. It can hold a lot more when fully supported underneath. I have overloaded mine with way too much stuff both in weight and volume and never had the slighest bit of trouble other than really needing to be careful in maneuvering. After some damage to the top tube I finally did cover the offending bits of the rack with bar tape. A little beausage is fine I guess, but I would have like to have figured it out before I chipped the paint. :-) Currently I don't have the platrack set up on either my Quickbeam or the Hunq, but I think I may go with your suggestion of the platrack strutted to the mid-fork and find a lowrider rack really waiting for the one that's been in testing from Riv though. I guess I'm one of those folks who really, really likes the ability to carry way too much stuff (and since I'm slow anyway, it never really bothers me). Aloha, Bob On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: The two ways I run the platrack are: With the slickersack, any thing and everything I can get into the bag Without the slickersack, tent, sleeping bag and thermarest all go on the platrack with straps and a net. I have always run the platrack on the Nitto Mini Front, never on the Mark's rack. Regarding the struts, many have run the platrack struts down to the mid-fork braze on, rather than all the way down to the dropout. That way you can still run a lowrider and panniers for an uber-front loader On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 12:24:20 PM UTC-7, Pudge wrote: But the Platrack has two additional straight supports to the front dropouts. I’ve loaded a LOT more than 4.4 lbs on my Platracks. The limit is not what the rack will carry but how much handling degradation I’m willing to tolerate. *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@** googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *WETH *Sent:* Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:03 PM *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Platrack Real World Feedback As I recall it was made to fit on a Mark's rack or Nitto mini which Rivendell rates the following: Capacities: Mini front rack or Mark’s: 4.4 lb. Top Rack: 13lb Rear rack, Med or Big: 44lb Big Front racks: 30lb Safe cycling, Erl On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:34:24 PM UTC-4, jphil...@me.com wrote: Does anyone recall what Rivendell said the weight limit is for the Platrack? Should I keep the load limited to lightweight stuff? Thanks, John On Sunday, October 20, 2013 5:21:58 PM UTC-7, Minh wrote: OkDokee, So i've been using a basket on my Nitto Mini Front for about a year, overall happy with it, but with heavier loads it was a little wobbly (it was secured with many zip-ties) it was never dangerous but i just wanted something a little more secure to zip-tie to so picked up a platrack second-hand. Now that i have it on there, wow, those stays that extend down to the dropout are really out there, i just have it in the bike-stand at the moment, so maybe it's just a spatial/visual perception issue, but it looks like a wide stance. My question is for those who use the platrack on a regular basis, any issue with the stays extending so far out to the sides? Any other issues i'm not aware of with this rack? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-own...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . --**--**-- ** To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. ** ** This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please
[RBW] FS: 1st gen / Riv MUSA pant / s: small
Hello, Selling my lightly used pair of first generation MUSA pant. The pant's in almost new condition, wore them only a few times, no noticeable wear. Please note, this pair was not designed with the tapered zipper or the reflective strip. Color is the yellow/brown with dark green pockets and crotch. Pictures of actual pant for sale here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10039335@N04/sets/72157636837158535/ Asking $25.00 + shipping Thanks, Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
I have a really similar primaloft jacket from REI, size L. It packs down to about the size of 1.25 1L Nalgenes, and weighs basically nothing. I can wear it over just a t-shirt down to about 20F and still be too warm. I don't really put a jacket on until it's mid 50s though, so YMMV. Either way though, it is very good insulation. A why get a jacket that can't get wet? A sleeping bag is easy to keep dry, but a jacket you can't wear in the rain doesn't make much sense to me. Also it's cheaper. On Monday, October 21, 2013 11:21:37 PM UTC-4, hsmitham wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
To throw a wrench into your plans I converted my 60 Ram to 650b: http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351739256/in/set-72157623199721925 Toshi did, too ;) -L On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:20:23 PM UTC-4, BykMor wrote: Hello all, This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost with it's own FS subject line. Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good stories. Cheers, BykMor Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront Derailleur IRD Rear DerailleurUltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cmTapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter White built).--.Front HubSONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette.--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS GreenSeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto- Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp Edelux DecalleurBagSackville sm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Hi, Hugh For hanging out around the campsite, down is the way to go. I have a North Face down jacket that I wear with a couple of layers of wool underneath on chilly winter boy scout camping trips in the So Cal mountains. For cycling, though, down is totally overkill. Back in my Wisconsin days, two or three layers with a windbreaker on top was all I needed down to about 0F. As stated above, the key for staying warm while riding is keeping your head, hands and feet warm and breaking the wind. Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
Oh you tricky tricky people. More thinking to do. Beautiful bike. Thank you for letting me know. I might have to message you off list to get some insight. BykMor On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:04:06 PM UTC-6, Leslie wrote: To throw a wrench into your plans I converted my 60 Ram to 650b: http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351739256/in/set-72157623199721925 Toshi did, too ;) -L On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:20:23 PM UTC-4, BykMor wrote: Hello all, This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost with it's own FS subject line. Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good stories. Cheers, BykMor Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront Derailleur IRD Rear DerailleurUltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cmTapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter White built).--.Front HubSONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette .--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS GreenSeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto- Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp EdeluxDecalleurBagSackville sm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS - Sackville TrunkSack small (olive) - $60
Will do. Should be able to get it sent out tomorrow. Thanks Tim! Sean On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 1:46:05 PM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: I had Riv send the e-gift certificate directly to your email; it should be there by tomorrow. Once you get it, please ship to: Tim Gavin 3225 12th Ave SW Cedar Rapids, IA 52404 Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
I suppose I should have clarified that the jacket would be worn around the camp site exclusively post ride...I usually don't need many layers here in SoCal while riding but once I stop moving I cool down quickly ( as in the case of the last ride at 6200' approximate elevation), I would never consider riding with down for the previously mentioned reasons. I'm not too concerned with getting the jacket wet as if I thought there was a chance of precipitation I would bring my shell jacket and wear it over the other jacket if necessary. I apologize for not being more definitive in my questions. So far have benefited from the collective wisdom that have responded...please continue as I have not made a choice yet. Let me add to the post, I have a Down Kelty sleeping bag rated from mid 30's or 40's ??? has anyone experience with liners that increase warmth slightly say 5 to 10 degrees? I thought rather then purchase another bag I could go this way, liner used in the Summer alone, Fall, Winter Spring for extra warmth with down bag. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Hugh, Find a bear. Shoot the bear. Skin the bear. Cook the bear. Eat the bear. Wear the bear. Plenty warm! Sleeping bag: the first step is to sleep in the clothes you have if you get cold. That can give you an extra 20+ degrees and you're carrying them anyway. Still need more, look into the vapor barriers (Riv's looks good). Also, be sure to fluff your sleeping bag as soon as you make camp, so it has time to achieve maximum loft, and give it time to dry in the morning before packing it if at all possible (we let off a lot of moisture at night, as your tent walls will attest when it gets cold enough). Failing that, go by the Rabobank, follow the instructions found in their name, and buy a Feathered Friends bag. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:55:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: I suppose I should have clarified that the jacket would be worn around the camp site exclusively post ride...I usually don't need many layers here in SoCal while riding but once I stop moving I cool down quickly ( as in the case of the last ride at 6200' approximate elevation), I would never consider riding with down for the previously mentioned reasons. I'm not too concerned with getting the jacket wet as if I thought there was a chance of precipitation I would bring my shell jacket and wear it over the other jacket if necessary. I apologize for not being more definitive in my questions. So far have benefited from the collective wisdom that have responded...please continue as I have not made a choice yet. Let me add to the post, I have a Down Kelty sleeping bag rated from mid 30's or 40's ??? has anyone experience with liners that increase warmth slightly say 5 to 10 degrees? I thought rather then purchase another bag I could go this way, liner used in the Summer alone, Fall, Winter Spring for extra warmth with down bag. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Dear Deacon, We here in California like bears not necessarily to wear :-) As much as I like the very best I can't justify taking advantage of a Dutch Banks poor name translation here in the Colony very wide GRIN...your advice with regards to the sleeping bag is sound advice, I did recently wear my wool long john's, beany and wool socks and was just slightly cold. I then added my down vest (it's too large for me hence looking for another) and warmed up but still was cold...my good friend Curtis made a sage comment that it's good to be a little cold as it gets you up and going in the AM. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Hugh, Find a bear. Shoot the bear. Skin the bear. Cook the bear. Eat the bear. Wear the bear. Plenty warm! Sleeping bag: the first step is to sleep in the clothes you have if you get cold. That can give you an extra 20+ degrees and you're carrying them anyway. Still need more, look into the vapor barriers (Riv's looks good). Also, be sure to fluff your sleeping bag as soon as you make camp, so it has time to achieve maximum loft, and give it time to dry in the morning before packing it if at all possible (we let off a lot of moisture at night, as your tent walls will attest when it gets cold enough). Failing that, go by the Rabobank, follow the instructions found in their name, and buy a Feathered Friends bag. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:55:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: I suppose I should have clarified that the jacket would be worn around the camp site exclusively post ride...I usually don't need many layers here in SoCal while riding but once I stop moving I cool down quickly ( as in the case of the last ride at 6200' approximate elevation), I would never consider riding with down for the previously mentioned reasons. I'm not too concerned with getting the jacket wet as if I thought there was a chance of precipitation I would bring my shell jacket and wear it over the other jacket if necessary. I apologize for not being more definitive in my questions. So far have benefited from the collective wisdom that have responded...please continue as I have not made a choice yet. Let me add to the post, I have a Down Kelty sleeping bag rated from mid 30's or 40's ??? has anyone experience with liners that increase warmth slightly say 5 to 10 degrees? I thought rather then purchase another bag I could go this way, liner used in the Summer alone, Fall, Winter Spring for extra warmth with down bag. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/**shop/76777?page=ascent-** packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp#http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/**853044/marmot-ajax-down-**jacket-menshttp://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_**B9N2rQ4/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group
Re: [RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
The 650b Ram is an amazing Rando bike with Hetre tires and fenders with ample room--definitely worth considering the conversion. I'd classify the ride as amazingly stable and smooth. I'd be happy to discuss. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42771204@N00/8176967200/ Best of luck, Toshi in Oakland, CA On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM, BykMor byk...@gmail.com wrote: Oh you tricky tricky people. More thinking to do. Beautiful bike. Thank you for letting me know. I might have to message you off list to get some insight. BykMor -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Patrick, You made my day with your response. I will grin all the way home. Ride Safe, Curtis On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Hugh, Find a bear. Shoot the bear. Skin the bear. Cook the bear. Eat the bear. Wear the bear. Plenty warm! Sleeping bag: the first step is to sleep in the clothes you have if you get cold. That can give you an extra 20+ degrees and you're carrying them anyway. Still need more, look into the vapor barriers (Riv's looks good). Also, be sure to fluff your sleeping bag as soon as you make camp, so it has time to achieve maximum loft, and give it time to dry in the morning before packing it if at all possible (we let off a lot of moisture at night, as your tent walls will attest when it gets cold enough). Failing that, go by the Rabobank, follow the instructions found in their name, and buy a Feathered Friends bag. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:55:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: I suppose I should have clarified that the jacket would be worn around the camp site exclusively post ride...I usually don't need many layers here in SoCal while riding but once I stop moving I cool down quickly ( as in the case of the last ride at 6200' approximate elevation), I would never consider riding with down for the previously mentioned reasons. I'm not too concerned with getting the jacket wet as if I thought there was a chance of precipitation I would bring my shell jacket and wear it over the other jacket if necessary. I apologize for not being more definitive in my questions. So far have benefited from the collective wisdom that have responded...please continue as I have not made a choice yet. Let me add to the post, I have a Down Kelty sleeping bag rated from mid 30's or 40's ??? has anyone experience with liners that increase warmth slightly say 5 to 10 degrees? I thought rather then purchase another bag I could go this way, liner used in the Summer alone, Fall, Winter Spring for extra warmth with down bag. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/**shop/76777?page=ascent-** packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp#http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/**853044/marmot-ajax-down-**jacket-menshttp://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_**B9N2rQ4/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Och, Hugh! Any bank that has to pay out $1B in Libor charges deserves a bit of ribbing for it's name translating poorly, especially on a hard brain day when I'm lamely attempting to amuse myself. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:21:45 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Dear Deacon, We here in California like bears not necessarily to wear :-) As much as I like the very best I can't justify taking advantage of a Dutch Banks poor name translation here in the Colony very wide GRIN...your advice with regards to the sleeping bag is sound advice, I did recently wear my wool long john's, beany and wool socks and was just slightly cold. I then added my down vest (it's too large for me hence looking for another) and warmed up but still was cold...my good friend Curtis made a sage comment that it's good to be a little cold as it gets you up and going in the AM. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Hugh, Find a bear. Shoot the bear. Skin the bear. Cook the bear. Eat the bear. Wear the bear. Plenty warm! Sleeping bag: the first step is to sleep in the clothes you have if you get cold. That can give you an extra 20+ degrees and you're carrying them anyway. Still need more, look into the vapor barriers (Riv's looks good). Also, be sure to fluff your sleeping bag as soon as you make camp, so it has time to achieve maximum loft, and give it time to dry in the morning before packing it if at all possible (we let off a lot of moisture at night, as your tent walls will attest when it gets cold enough). Failing that, go by the Rabobank, follow the instructions found in their name, and buy a Feathered Friends bag. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:55:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: I suppose I should have clarified that the jacket would be worn around the camp site exclusively post ride...I usually don't need many layers here in SoCal while riding but once I stop moving I cool down quickly ( as in the case of the last ride at 6200' approximate elevation), I would never consider riding with down for the previously mentioned reasons. I'm not too concerned with getting the jacket wet as if I thought there was a chance of precipitation I would bring my shell jacket and wear it over the other jacket if necessary. I apologize for not being more definitive in my questions. So far have benefited from the collective wisdom that have responded...please continue as I have not made a choice yet. Let me add to the post, I have a Down Kelty sleeping bag rated from mid 30's or 40's ??? has anyone experience with liners that increase warmth slightly say 5 to 10 degrees? I thought rather then purchase another bag I could go this way, liner used in the Summer alone, Fall, Winter Spring for extra warmth with down bag. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/**shop/76777?page=ascent-** packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp#http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/**853044/marmot-ajax-down-**jacket-menshttp://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_**B9N2rQ4/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
Re: [RBW] Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
No Ouch. Oh it amused me. Yeah all these slaps on the wrist amount to literally a pittance compared to the massive profits-Not so much a grin. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Och, Hugh! Any bank that has to pay out $1B in Libor charges deserves a bit of ribbing for it's name translating poorly, especially on a hard brain day when I'm lamely attempting to amuse myself. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:21:45 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Dear Deacon, We here in California like bears not necessarily to wear :-) As much as I like the very best I can't justify taking advantage of a Dutch Banks poor name translation here in the Colony very wide GRIN...your advice with regards to the sleeping bag is sound advice, I did recently wear my wool long john's, beany and wool socks and was just slightly cold. I then added my down vest (it's too large for me hence looking for another) and warmed up but still was cold...my good friend Curtis made a sage comment that it's good to be a little cold as it gets you up and going in the AM. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Hugh, Find a bear. Shoot the bear. Skin the bear. Cook the bear. Eat the bear. Wear the bear. Plenty warm! Sleeping bag: the first step is to sleep in the clothes you have if you get cold. That can give you an extra 20+ degrees and you're carrying them anyway. Still need more, look into the vapor barriers (Riv's looks good). Also, be sure to fluff your sleeping bag as soon as you make camp, so it has time to achieve maximum loft, and give it time to dry in the morning before packing it if at all possible (we let off a lot of moisture at night, as your tent walls will attest when it gets cold enough). Failing that, go by the Rabobank, follow the instructions found in their name, and buy a Feathered Friends bag. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:55:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: I suppose I should have clarified that the jacket would be worn around the camp site exclusively post ride...I usually don't need many layers here in SoCal while riding but once I stop moving I cool down quickly ( as in the case of the last ride at 6200' approximate elevation), I would never consider riding with down for the previously mentioned reasons. I'm not too concerned with getting the jacket wet as if I thought there was a chance of precipitation I would bring my shell jacket and wear it over the other jacket if necessary. I apologize for not being more definitive in my questions. So far have benefited from the collective wisdom that have responded...please continue as I have not made a choice yet. Let me add to the post, I have a Down Kelty sleeping bag rated from mid 30's or 40's ??? has anyone experience with liners that increase warmth slightly say 5 to 10 degrees? I thought rather then purchase another bag I could go this way, liner used in the Summer alone, Fall, Winter Spring for extra warmth with down bag. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/**shop**/76777?page=ascent-**packaway-** jacketnav=p1d-hp#http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/**853**044/marmot-ajax-down-**jacket-**menshttp://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/**to **pic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_**B9N2r**Q4/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups**.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** /rbw-owners-bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe
Re: [RBW] Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Och! = Scots for Ahh/O/Wow!. Very different from Ouch! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:41:27 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: No Ouch. Oh it amused me. Yeah all these slaps on the wrist amount to literally a pittance compared to the massive profits-Not so much a grin. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: Och, Hugh! Any bank that has to pay out $1B in Libor charges deserves a bit of ribbing for it's name translating poorly, especially on a hard brain day when I'm lamely attempting to amuse myself. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:21:45 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Dear Deacon, We here in California like bears not necessarily to wear :-) As much as I like the very best I can't justify taking advantage of a Dutch Banks poor name translation here in the Colony very wide GRIN...your advice with regards to the sleeping bag is sound advice, I did recently wear my wool long john's, beany and wool socks and was just slightly cold. I then added my down vest (it's too large for me hence looking for another) and warmed up but still was cold...my good friend Curtis made a sage comment that it's good to be a little cold as it gets you up and going in the AM. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: Hugh, Find a bear. Shoot the bear. Skin the bear. Cook the bear. Eat the bear. Wear the bear. Plenty warm! Sleeping bag: the first step is to sleep in the clothes you have if you get cold. That can give you an extra 20+ degrees and you're carrying them anyway. Still need more, look into the vapor barriers (Riv's looks good). Also, be sure to fluff your sleeping bag as soon as you make camp, so it has time to achieve maximum loft, and give it time to dry in the morning before packing it if at all possible (we let off a lot of moisture at night, as your tent walls will attest when it gets cold enough). Failing that, go by the Rabobank, follow the instructions found in their name, and buy a Feathered Friends bag. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:55:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: I suppose I should have clarified that the jacket would be worn around the camp site exclusively post ride...I usually don't need many layers here in SoCal while riding but once I stop moving I cool down quickly ( as in the case of the last ride at 6200' approximate elevation), I would never consider riding with down for the previously mentioned reasons. I'm not too concerned with getting the jacket wet as if I thought there was a chance of precipitation I would bring my shell jacket and wear it over the other jacket if necessary. I apologize for not being more definitive in my questions. So far have benefited from the collective wisdom that have responded...please continue as I have not made a choice yet. Let me add to the post, I have a Down Kelty sleeping bag rated from mid 30's or 40's ??? has anyone experience with liners that increase warmth slightly say 5 to 10 degrees? I thought rather then purchase another bag I could go this way, liner used in the Summer alone, Fall, Winter Spring for extra warmth with down bag. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/**shop**/76777?page=ascent-**packaway-** jacketnav=p1d-hp#http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/**853**044/marmot-ajax-down-**jacket-** mens http://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** to**pic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_**B9N2r**Q4/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups**.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** /rbw-owners-bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For
Re: [RBW] Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Just a wee bit o' confusion :-) Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Och! = Scots for Ahh/O/Wow!. Very different from Ouch! Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 5:41:27 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: No Ouch. Oh it amused me. Yeah all these slaps on the wrist amount to literally a pittance compared to the massive profits-Not so much a grin. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com wrote: Och, Hugh! Any bank that has to pay out $1B in Libor charges deserves a bit of ribbing for it's name translating poorly, especially on a hard brain day when I'm lamely attempting to amuse myself. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:21:45 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: Dear Deacon, We here in California like bears not necessarily to wear :-) As much as I like the very best I can't justify taking advantage of a Dutch Banks poor name translation here in the Colony very wide GRIN...your advice with regards to the sleeping bag is sound advice, I did recently wear my wool long john's, beany and wool socks and was just slightly cold. I then added my down vest (it's too large for me hence looking for another) and warmed up but still was cold...my good friend Curtis made a sage comment that it's good to be a little cold as it gets you up and going in the AM. Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: Hugh, Find a bear. Shoot the bear. Skin the bear. Cook the bear. Eat the bear. Wear the bear. Plenty warm! Sleeping bag: the first step is to sleep in the clothes you have if you get cold. That can give you an extra 20+ degrees and you're carrying them anyway. Still need more, look into the vapor barriers (Riv's looks good). Also, be sure to fluff your sleeping bag as soon as you make camp, so it has time to achieve maximum loft, and give it time to dry in the morning before packing it if at all possible (we let off a lot of moisture at night, as your tent walls will attest when it gets cold enough). Failing that, go by the Rabobank, follow the instructions found in their name, and buy a Feathered Friends bag. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:55:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: I suppose I should have clarified that the jacket would be worn around the camp site exclusively post ride...I usually don't need many layers here in SoCal while riding but once I stop moving I cool down quickly ( as in the case of the last ride at 6200' approximate elevation), I would never consider riding with down for the previously mentioned reasons. I'm not too concerned with getting the jacket wet as if I thought there was a chance of precipitation I would bring my shell jacket and wear it over the other jacket if necessary. I apologize for not being more definitive in my questions. So far have benefited from the collective wisdom that have responded...please continue as I have not made a choice yet. Let me add to the post, I have a Down Kelty sleeping bag rated from mid 30's or 40's ??? has anyone experience with liners that increase warmth slightly say 5 to 10 degrees? I thought rather then purchase another bag I could go this way, liner used in the Summer alone, Fall, Winter Spring for extra warmth with down bag. Best, ~Hugh On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 8:21 PM, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Need the collective wisdom of the Bunch here. Need to update my S240 wardrobe as I plan on doing more high altitude camping...which of these do I go with? This one is PrimaLoft synthetic insulation but apparently doesn't lose insulation capability even when wet and dries quickly. http://www.llbean.com/llb/**shop/76777?page=ascent-**packaway-** ja**cketnav=p1d-hp#http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/76777?page=ascent-packaway-jacketnav=p1d-hp# Next is this Down coat which has a water repellant treatment. http://www.rei.com/product/**853044/marmot-ajax-down-**jacket-** me**nshttp://www.rei.com/product/853044/marmot-ajax-down-jacket-mens For me the variables are packs small, very good insulating (I get cold real easy) capability, and budget you'll notice that both of these are not too expensive, the PrimaLoft the least of the two. Thanks for looking and helping a chilly Brother. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_**B9N2rQ4/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/RIC_B9N2rQ4/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at
[RBW] Re: Question / Poll/ Crazy idea? Read on...
Interesting idea. I have a shelf full of great bicycling reads. I would be interested in participating. Think I might start with Into Thick Air. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTB 68cm (Rivendell only)
Kelly also a good deal for someone. I have one other person offering a Quickbeam. Really hunting for an elusive large Atlantis. Although I almost sprung for the 71 Hilsen on eBay. Anyone other than Kelly have large Rivs they are considering parting with. Would even consider a 66cm Atlantis or 67 of some nature. If anyone wants to part already with one of the 5 jumbo prototype mystery bikes that were built by Mark N. I would be happy to return your investment for a slightly used one. Ryanshifting my focus back towards slower cycles, rather than BMW rallyingHankinson Spring Lake, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: bridgestone posters for sale at Riv!
And they are all sold out??? Anyone get one in their cart over at RivBike.Gov or whatever the site is? -Aaron I admit I'm happy to pay a Riv Tax, and I sure don't mean to make Riv sound bad in anyway, just thought that was kind of funny Young The Dalles, OR On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 12:51 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Simplex derailers! On Monday, October 21, 2013 11:36:53 PM UTC-7, sameness wrote: Methinks that attic must be the retrogrouch's Field of Dreams. Next up: three dozen Mavic starfish cranks and a metric tonne of Nuovo Record gum hoods. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
Feel free to im or email me (leslie dot bright at gmail dot com)... Thing is, I had another 650b bike, so, all it cost me to try it out was a pair of long-reach calipers, just bummed the wheels off of the Bomba for a bit... since it worked, I built a 650b wheelset for the Ram The front was easy; the rear caliper, I did have to do a bit of filing with a round file to get the pads to drop a little bit lower to ensure I had satisfactory clearance between the tire and the pad (I didn't want a brake pad to chew up a Hetre!).I even left the same fenders on, just tweaked them a bit. On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:30:55 PM UTC-4, BykMor wrote: Oh you tricky tricky people. More thinking to do. Beautiful bike. Thank you for letting me know. I might have to message you off list to get some insight. BykMor On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:04:06 PM UTC-6, Leslie wrote: To throw a wrench into your plans I converted my 60 Ram to 650b: http://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351739256/in/set-72157623199721925 Toshi did, too ;) -L On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 2:20:23 PM UTC-4, BykMor wrote: Hello all, This was posted a couple weeks ago in another thread regarding the attributes of the Rambouillet vs the Sam Hillborne, but I though I'd repost with it's own FS subject line. Some photos live here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/111496061371485598754/albums/5935804564746652129 The bike currently lives here: Saturday Cycles in Salt Lake City, UT I love the bicycle, but have this insatiable (while I'm still in possession of the Ram) urge to try a 650b randonneur. I imagine I'll regret selling it down the road, but we all need a little regret to make good stories. Cheers, BykMor Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full build cost was about 4kselling complete for $2400 FramesetRiv RamouilletBrake LeversSRAMShiftersSilver DTCrankSugino compact2Bottom BracketSugino outboardBrakesPauls CenterFront Derailleur IRD Rear DerailleurUltegraCassetteShimano HG80ChainKMC 9xStemNitto HandlebarsNitto Noodle- 48cmTapeDeda- greenHeadsetUltegraWheels: (Peter White built).--.Front HubSONdelux .--.Rear HubPhil Wood cassette .--.Spokes.--.Rims, 36HVelocity- SynergySaddleBrooks B17 CS Green SeatpostNitto CrystalTiresSchwalbe Durano PedalsTubesFront RackNitto- Mark'sCageArundel stainlessLamp EdeluxDecalleurBagSackville sm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: bridgestone posters for sale at Riv!
I got one but i put my order in first this morning (east coast US time), there were only ~60 available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS- Green Rambouillet, 60cm, built
Here is another 650b Ram, and a 60cm like yours! http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDS3yHa -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] New York Times debate on Rules of the Road
I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned in another thread, but list members may be interested in a section posted in the New York Times debating Rules of the Road. Grant Petersen is among the debaters. While I agree with his general proposition that making driving more inconvenient could help the cause of bicycle commuting, I'm not so convinced on some of the particulars. I am quite in favor, however, of The Idaho Stop he mentions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/10/21/cyclists-drivers-and-the-rules-of-the-road?hp Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 1st gen / Riv MUSA pant / s: small
Scott, looks like your permissions are set to private. I wear the Mediums in winter w/ layers underneath, but thought I might be able to fit smalls for stand alone riding, but need to see those colors... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: bridgestone posters for sale at Riv!
I got mine! http://www.flickr.com/photos/64942209@N00/4442699256 On 10/22/13, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote: I got one but i put my order in first this morning (east coast US time), there were only ~60 available. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] New York Times debate on Rules of the Road
No comment by RTMS or David Byrne? The panel is not valid! On 10/22/13, Aaron Thomas aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned in another thread, but list members may be interested in a section posted in the New York Times debating Rules of the Road. Grant Petersen is among the debaters. While I agree with his general proposition that making driving more inconvenient could help the cause of bicycle commuting, I'm not so convinced on some of the particulars. I am quite in favor, however, of The Idaho Stop he mentions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/10/21/cyclists-drivers-and-the-rules-of-the-road?hp Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
Hugh...On the sleeping bag issue... if you wear extra clothes to bed, it's warmer if they are dry and not the ones you rode in all day. Smell's nicer too. I carry a lightweight set of woollies just to sleep in when it's cold at night and my bag is marginal for the conditions. A few other options/questions what kind of pad are you using. Is it full length? The better ones can add significant warmth. Another choice is a bivy bag (outer cover). They add 10 d F to your bag. Of course, having the right bag for the conditions in the 1st place may solve your issue. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Advice on choosing a warm coat. Slight topic drift.
I have a silk bag liner. It's ok. Probably adds a few degrees but kind of more hassle than it's worth. My bag is pretty warm and I'm more likely to need to unzip it in the middle of the night than want for more insulation. I use a 3/4 length pad and put a pannier or backpack under my feet if I'm sleeping on the ground (never my preference). 3/4 length is fine for the hammock... I sleep like a baby rocking in the breeze. --Smitty -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: New York Times debate on Rules of the Road
Totally agree with the Idaho stop and like the Copenhagen perspective as well. ~Hugh On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:15:08 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote: I'm not sure if this has already been mentioned in another thread, but list members may be interested in a section posted in the New York Times debating Rules of the Road. Grant Petersen is among the debaters. While I agree with his general proposition that making driving more inconvenient could help the cause of bicycle commuting, I'm not so convinced on some of the particulars. I am quite in favor, however, of The Idaho Stop he mentions. http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/10/21/cyclists-drivers-and-the-rules-of-the-road?hp Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Riv shipping just go up? A Tax now? Huh?
Someone mentioned a riv tax in a thread here. Please tell me that is only in CA. Also, did shipping just go up a buck? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: bridgestone posters for sale at Riv!
@ Aaron: -Aaron I admit I'm happy to pay a Riv Tax, and I sure don't mean to make Riv sound bad in anyway, just thought that was kind of funny Young The Dalles, OR Say what? PLease tell me RBW is not gonna start taxing every state? Its one of the last tax free places I shop online. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
