[RBW] Another stolen Riv in the SfBay area
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[RBW] POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
Green housing on the Quickbeam. I've only ever had silver ferrules, but I suppose brass would be nice. Black is classic. Gray would look good on a silver frame. I've used red and orange where (in)appropriate. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: wtb: Rivendell Bombadil ~ 56cm ~ diagatube?
But if you did that, how would it be different from a Hunq? In-between frame size? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear
Deacon, Wipe the chain enough to lay a ruler up to it, line the zero mark up on a pin center and see where the 12 mark hits relative the nearest pin. Sage advice is replace the chain if 1/16 stretch is detected. A field-expedient that is less precise is to pull the middle of the chain wrapped around your big chainring away from the teeth and see how far it goes; a little is fine, halfway off the tooth not so good, over a tooth is excessive. This demonstration includes wear of chainring teeth and should be followed by more careful assessment. Wear beyond 1/16 eats chainrings and cassette cogs at a faster rate. At 1/8 stretch, the drivetrain degrades in finer functions in normal use and begin to misbehave like chain suck when Just Riding Along (term of art in bike repair). If the chain is beyond the normal length between its pins, it doesn't lay well around the tooth profile of the chainrings. Wrapped around a granny gear, the stretched chain is forced into a smaller set of tooth gaps by riding a little bit high on each tooth provided you are really easing along on the pedals. The force generated by the granny ring sinks those links farther onto the non-matching teeth beyond being freely engaging. So as the chainring rotates from the top where it is pulling the run of chain off the cassette cog, it is creating a binding fit of the chain onto itself to the point of sticking to the ring until knocked off by your frame. Continued riding will erode the teeth of rings and cogs. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:35:22 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome. Possible fixes would seem to be: — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months) — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over my head on that one. — Other ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear
Like you, Joe, I don't cross chain. I will use my four lowest gears in my granny gear, but generally only the bottom 2-3. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:12:38 PM UTC-6, Joe Bernard wrote: Are you cross-chaining? You might be catching the chain on the front teeth sideways-like if the bend from the granny to the smaller rear cogs is too severe. I only use the granny in the 3-or-4 biggest/lowest-gear cogs. On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:35:22 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome. Possible fixes would seem to be: — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months) — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over my head on that one. — Other ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: wtb: Rivendell Bombadil ~ 56cm ~ diagatube?
For me if the Hunqapillar came in a 56 I would have bought it over my bombadil, not to take anything away from an awesome bike but the hunq had better clearances and was a steal when it was first released. Not that it's overpriced now, but at 1500 I had one on order at Harris before realizing it was just too small in the TT and the 58 was gonna have negative standover with the tires I would run on it. I was steered towards the 56 Sam which I am sure is an awesome bike but I was looking to run big rubber, just my take on the whole thing. On Nov 1, 2013 5:32 AM, Tom Harrop twhar...@gmail.com wrote: But if you did that, how would it be different from a Hunq? In-between frame size? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear
and if all else fails...http://n-gear.com/whatis.html On Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:35:22 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome. Possible fixes would seem to be: — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months) — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over my head on that one. — Other ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Highland Day Ride
Yeah, Hugh, you'd have to lose the beard mousse and spiced eyebrow wax for a few weeks lest the scents send me down the mountain. Grin. As far as stinking, I read a National Geographic article in which the crew described how before reaching the South American village they stopped at the river to take their first bath in weeks. The medicine man wouldn't go near them because they stunk. I knew exactly what he was talking about and couldn't stop laughing. Stink is in the nose of the besniffer. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:01:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: 20 degrees and dark! I would say I'd love to join in but there's the matter of scents (not saying I stink) and that I think it's cold at 40 degrees, hey that is cold in Southern California :-) Seriously, I totally enjoy the scenery in your part of the world. One of these days I will ride in Colorado. ~Hugh On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:16:14 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Well it was a bundle and batten down your chihuahua type of day. 20˚F for most of my ride, as I started out before sunrise, and quickly climbed to 10,000+ feet. Lots of the ride was through 1-2” of remnant snow. I came to one cleaning and the chihuahua was less dog and more kite — someone hadn’t battened the poor lad down very well. Incredible views of Pikes Peak from an angle most don’t see. I passed the “Bigfoot Crossing” sign on the Pikes Peak Highway, but it was too dark for a photo, so it didn’t happen. Beautiful cloudless day and back by 2. What fantastic country this is to explore and play in! http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157637166639776 With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
I put white on my blue/white Giordana when I tuned her up this year. Looks great on that classic racer. But I used the grey housing on my Riv, and black on my Schwinn KOM. I like the grey because it doesn't stand out but looks nice. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: White. Definitely white. –Eric N Sent from my iPhone 5S On Nov 1, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Green housing on the Quickbeam. I've only ever had silver ferrules, but I suppose brass would be nice. Black is classic. Gray would look good on a silver frame. I've used red and orange where (in)appropriate. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
I really, really really like my (discontinued) Acorn tubular bag on my go-fast bike - I can outfit it either for my tubular or clincher wheelset (I keep either supply staged in gallon ziplocs) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/F%20Moser/aP8050006.jpg It carries everything I might need to get home on a bad day and still room for car keys and cell phone, etc - just no room for a beer. Not on this bike, but if I want to haul more, I prefer my rando bag (11 liter). http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/aP4140012.jpg note the fork geometry is good for front loads On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:10:44 PM UTC-5, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear
I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the chain was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the name. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome. Possible fixes would seem to be: — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months) — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over my head on that one. — Other ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear
That's the one. It works. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:37 AM, doc gspi...@aol.com wrote: and if all else fails...http://n-gear.com/whatis.html On Thursday, October 31, 2013 6:35:22 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome. Possible fixes would seem to be: — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months) — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over my head on that one. — Other ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Chain Suck under torque in Granny Gear
Good call. In my case, my chain's been dirty for 17.7963 months before this started happening. The plan is to get a new chain and see where I go from there. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, November 1, 2013 7:24:55 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: I had this happen with distressing frequency on the Fargo when the chain was dirty. I installed a device to prevent chainsuck; forget the name. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: This isn’t happening when shifting, it’s new and happening when well established in gear with gear mostly happy (it makes some noise in lowest gear that it doesn’t in higher ones), cranking up a steep hill. Especially happens if I stand to peddle. All suggestions welcome. Possible fixes would seem to be: — remove, clean, lube chain (it’s been 18 months) — monkey with front derailure adjustment. Help here appreciated. I’m over my head on that one. — Other ideas? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: TA Carmina BB recommendation - Atlantis
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:04:41 PM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote: Thanks for all of the input, but it turns out I've changed my fancy crank overhaul plans some. I decided to get White ENO arms and set these up as a double, and I'll be pairing it with a 113 mm SKF BB that I bought from Compass. Jan Heine said I should be fine with a 113 for that even though they run a little big, and this solution seems a lot simpler than messing with a TA setup. I had never heard of SKF BB's until a couple of days ago but man do they look like some next level engineering! Yes, roller bearings on the drive side, and oversize ball bearings on on the left. Putting a cyclotouriste triple on my old Raleigh, I had to go with 126mm. With the crazy 73mm-wide BB boss on Raleigh, SKF does not recommend use of spacers, so it's fully symmetric. Looks funny enough to draw comments, but chainline is perfect and half-steps + escape adds huge versatility to a wide-6 in the rear. In case anybody is interested, bikebling.com is selling the ENO arms for $180 and you can add a 10% coupon to that for $162 shipped. I had upgrade with a deal like that! http://www.bikebling.com/White-Industries-ENO-Crank-Arms-p/whiteind-eno-crank-arms.htm On Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:51:05 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: ps - might also call the folks at Boulder Bicycle since they sell and install both the SKF and Carmina. On Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:39:59 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: a reply to Mike on the SKF BB. This is a symmetric BB, and they offer spacers up to 4mm. I would go for the 116 and make sure you have the 3 available spacers (1.5, 2, 4). This will get you up to the extra 10mm with the width plus spacer offset, and gives you 3 other options for dialing in chainline. The SKF square tapers are Big, and the crank arms don't seat very deeply on them. On Tuesday, October 29, 2013 12:06:28 AM UTC-5, Mike On A Bike wrote: Hey Mitch, I saw this post as I was searching for folks experiences with carmina cranks and SKF BB's. I am thinking of buying a used carmina on here and pairing it with an SKF BB and I just wanted to know if you ended up going that route? I read Peter White's carmina info and it seems like a 110 mm would work best for the double I'm looking to setup, and he says it should be 10 mm more for a triple, so I'd be curious to know what you have. How do you like the carmina? Happy riding and thanks for your feedback! Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
+1 on the Titanium - looks great on everything. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Morgano Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 7:22 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch Subject: Re: [RBW] POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules? Jagwire titanium with brass ferrules, silver and gold baby! On Oct 31, 2013 7:09 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.commailto:john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: 1. You like gray or black on your Rivendell? 2. You like silver, or brass colored ferrules like Riv does? Noticed that Riv builds have gray housing with brass ferrules. Was wondering why they use that combo. Seems like it stands out less on a bike than black housing does. What a cool idea. Don't know if they really do it for that reason. So was wondering what everyone's preference was for their Rivendells. My answers: 1. Gray 2. Brass. I hope to put gray on my Bleriot soon. it has black now. I like the gray on my Sam. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hetre/Synergy safety issue?
Lacking any hard data, we can only play with the numbers. 3 mm is 25% of 12 mm, which is probably the average difference in bottom bracket height between cyclocross and road bike bottom bracket heights. People have argued that road bikes noticably turn better than cyclocross bikes due to this difference, so perhaps the princess on 4 peas would notice the difference! Toshi On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Jan Heine hein...@earthlink.net wrote: The difference in tire height (about 3 mm) will lift your center of gravity by about 0.3%. Even the princess on the pea would be hard-pressed to notice that! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Another stolen Riv in the SfBay area
The pic isn't really the best to show details, but those do look like some 26ers with fat knobs. Maybe a custom or post-retail surgery? Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: why would anyone claim their 2TT Bombadil had 26 wheels? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
hang in there, bro, you have friends here On Friday, November 1, 2013 11:37:43 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson Salsa and Surly have been doing the rigid MTB for a number of years. The Fargo and Ogre both look like perfect bikes for off-road touring, just as a Hunqapillar of Bomba would. I'm really interested int he new Surly ECR with 29 x 3 tires. It has all the braze on's for racks or can be run with frame bags. Low BB ( like Atlantis low at 80mm) kinda like a LHT for pure off-road camping/touring. ~mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: wtb: Rivendell Bombadil ~ 56cm ~ diagatube?
On Friday, November 1, 2013 5:32:52 AM UTC-4, Tom Harrop wrote: But if you did that, how would it be different from a Hunq? In-between frame size? Biggest thing, tire size; smaller Hunq's are 26, the 54 and up are 700c; the Bomba is 650b, until you get up to a 60, then it switches to 700c too. My Bomba is a 56, in 650b; if I went w/ a Hunq, it'd be a 54, in 700c... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Thanks, all. As usual, I was exaggerating -- things are not too bad. Back to regular programming. PAM, blushing furiously (not to say morosely) in ABQ, NM On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: hang in there, bro, you have friends here On Friday, November 1, 2013 11:37:43 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bert...@gmail.com wrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.**com/index.cfm/store.catalog/** Seat-Bags/Viscachahttps://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/** topic/rbw-owners-bunch/**xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribehttps://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/**index.htmlhttp://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@**resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/**patrickmooreresumespec/http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer
[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
A few points: - There* are* some bikepacker types who use traditional Carradice saddlebags. Nick of Gypsy By Trade does. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/ If you look at his touring bike page, you can see his Camper Longflap on his Raleigh XXIX+G, Pugsley, and pretty much all of his bikes. http://gypsybytrade.wordpress.com/my-bikes/ In fact, I purchased an old Lowsaddle Longflap off of him. - Carradice does make some saddlebags that are more wedge shape, so more in line with the Revelate style bags and all. http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=productunder=rangeproduct_id=138 http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=productunder=rangeproduct_id=57 http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=productproduct_id=56 - Joe B in Portland, if you're thinking of selling your Camper Longflap at a reasonable price, please get in touch! your Carradice partisan, Shawn -- http://urbanadventureleague.blogspot.com/ http://groups.google.com/group/urban-adventure-league-portland http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Another stolen Riv in the SfBay area
possibly. maybe a proto? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
I think one of the biggest advantages to the Revelate bags for offroad touring, is that when you shift your weight way back, such as going down a steep singletrack, your legs clear. With a transverse bag, you can only throw your weight back until your legs hit. They also don't get hung up on that trailside tree limb you failed to see, like my panniers did once, sending me over the bars (Disclaimer: I use a Rivendell Adam transverse bag on a daily basis and have not owned a Revelate as I don't do any extreme off road touring). If you are planning on doing a lot of singletrack riding, I'd go for the Revelate bags. On Thursday, October 31, 2013 2:10:44 PM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
+1 what Ron MC said. Hope you feel better real soon. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
The list wouldn't be the same without you Patrick, take that for what it is, haha. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: +1 what Ron MC said. Hope you feel better real soon. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't gone away (much to y'all's chagrin); have been simultaneously sick and busy (and irritable and morose). Better today. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Hugh Smitham hughsmit...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick Moore, have been wondering where you've been...glad to see your here. Best, ~Hugh On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:23 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: One advantage is that they clear rear tires better than transverse bags. Even the Junior drags on the rear tire of my size M Fargo -- mostly solved by a cardboard stiffener -- while a wedge of similar size would clear the tire better. And, as others have said, no rack and certainly no loops required. That said, if Carradice bags were better known and positioned in the marketplace differently, they would probably be popular as light off road touring baggage. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xw8sYzLMfXQ/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this
[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
On Thursday, October 31, 2013 4:09:54 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: 1. You like gray or black on your Rivendell? 2. You like silver, or brass colored ferrules like Riv does? Noticed that Riv builds have gray housing with brass ferrules. Was wondering why they use that combo. Seems like it stands out less on a bike than black housing does. What a cool idea. Don't know if they really do it for that reason. So was wondering what everyone's preference was for their Rivendells. My answers: 1. Gray 2. Brass. If you like brass ferrules, you may also like brass cable adjusters too: http://www.kirkframeworks.com/accessories_photos/barrel_adj.jpg Reasonably priced too at $10/pair: http://www.kirkframeworks.com/accessories.htm Good Luck! I hope to put gray on my Bleriot soon. it has black now. I like the gray on my Sam. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Planning 72 hours in Marin
Just took possession of a new Surly Trucker Deluxe which I had Harris Cyclery build up with a mix of Riv-ish and otherwise practical parts (moustache bars, silver shifters, the new IRD 8 speed cassette mated to an XT 44-32-22 crank), and while I don't have yet the tools, couplers, travel case, or technical ability to break it apart for travel, I'm itching to get out there and use it. Have a week off coming up and nothing planned, so I bought a spur of the moment ticket to SFO on Virgin, which claims to let bikes under 23 kg fly for free (it's nothing near a weight weenie build, but I think I'm safe). The plan is, put the bike on the plane in a nashbar travel bag, and then put the bag into storage and cycle from the airport to the Golden Gate bridge with a special focus on staying alive in city traffic, then hit a mix of road and trails once over the bridge. Tentative itinerary is to head up Mt. Tam and stay at the West Point Inn on the 12th, up the Bolinas Ridge to Olema and back down to Wildcat campground on 13th, and then down to the headlands and Hawk campground on the 14th (have confirmed that the first two have availability, have to call to see about Hawk but my sense is that fall weekdays are not peak period for camping in Marin). I'm taking on the red eye back to Boston the night of the 15th, so plan to slowly make my way back to the airport over the course of the last day. I know there's people here with more experience in Marin, so I'm open to suggestions on route, and if anyone wants to join for part or all of the ride, I'd welcome the company ( be advised, though, am fat and slow). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Mountain bikes are fun. Take a look at some of SOMA's offerings. They're one of the least expensive brands that use frame size specific tubing in their builds. I really like my Juice (set up as a singlespeed) and almost bought a B-line. The Revelate bags are designed to be minimalist and fit mountain bikes that don't really have any allowance for touring gear. (no braze ons, suspension complications, etc). They're also designed to be streamlined and out of the way when trail riding, utilizing the dead spaces of the frame (main triangle, under the bars, behind the saddle, etc) Steve. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm still thinking about setting up a dedicated mountain bike for offroad touring. As I read journals and articles online, I see that the various frame bags made by Revelate and others are becoming popular. Like this one: https://www.revelatedesigns.com/index.cfm/store.catalog/Seat-Bags/Viscacha And I don't get it. Why would a bag like that, which is small and which has a small opening so it's harder to load, be better than a transverse saddlebag such as Carradice and Riv sell? I was looking at different bikes at my LBS today, and oh, look at that, suddenly mountain bike manufacturers like Salsa are selling rigid bikes as mountain bikes. Hmm. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
Silver is my choice :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
Silver housing for me :) I've always loved the silver stuff, whether it's Jagwire flat silver, or I see now they have Sterling silver, which looks awesome ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
I have the flat silver on one bike but really like the braided looks they have been coming out with. I have the braided gold on my MB2 and braided carbon silver on my Bombadil. On Nov 1, 2013 3:43 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Silver housing for me :) I've always loved the silver stuff, whether it's Jagwire flat silver, or I see now they have Sterling silver, which looks awesome ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
You guys/gals spend way too much time color matching/accessorizing. Not that there's anything wrong with that. ;) Perry you can have any color cable housing as long as it's black and any color ferrules as long as they're silver because that's what I buy and stock in bulk -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
One possible minor benefit: Lesser likelihood of thigh contact? Never used a Revelate, but unless my Lowsaddle Longflap is packed pert near solid, it has a tendency to get a little floppy at the corners and bow in towards the back of the saddle. The thigh contact isn't a deal breaker, but if I had a choice in the matter, it wouldn't be happening. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Yep, I didn't mention it , but thigh rubbing is another non negotiable for me. For this reason I even ditched the Banana Bag I once had, I rigged it so it wouldn't rub, but then it would sway because I couldn't get the leather strap tight enough around the seat stays ... lol. The Revelate bags are like the Banana bag embiggened and* perfected* ! On Friday, November 1, 2013 5:00:34 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote: One possible minor benefit: Lesser likelihood of thigh contact? Never used a Revelate, but unless my Lowsaddle Longflap is packed pert near solid, it has a tendency to get a little floppy at the corners and bow in towards the back of the saddle. The thigh contact isn't a deal breaker, but if I had a choice in the matter, it wouldn't be happening. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
there's grey and then there's grey. there is a classy dark grey, like dura ace and xtr housing. there is the stuff that was closer to clear, where you could see the coiled metal underneath. bridgestones came with that stuff out of the box. flat pale grey can be nice, and that was one of the campy options. i usually just go black, though -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
Thanks, everybody, for your excellent, thought-provoking posts and links. Whoever mentioned those super-big 3 tires for off-road, yeah. The Krampus and the ECR look so cool. One thing I hadn't appreciated about the Revelate-style bags is that saddlebags that aren't any wider than me are not going to be a problem *when riding*. But they might be a problem *when pushing*. I almost never push my Atlantis when I'm touring-- that's what low gears are for-- but off-road, I'd definitely be spending plenty of time hike-a-biking. Rear panniers get in the way of my legs when pushing, and wide saddlebags are somewhat in the way as well. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, I didn't mention it , but thigh rubbing is another non negotiable for me. For this reason I even ditched the Banana Bag I once had, I rigged it so it wouldn't rub, but then it would sway because I couldn't get the leather strap tight enough around the seat stays ... lol. The Revelate bags are like the Banana bag embiggened and perfected ! On Friday, November 1, 2013 5:00:34 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote: One possible minor benefit: Lesser likelihood of thigh contact? Never used a Revelate, but unless my Lowsaddle Longflap is packed pert near solid, it has a tendency to get a little floppy at the corners and bow in towards the back of the saddle. The thigh contact isn't a deal breaker, but if I had a choice in the matter, it wouldn't be happening. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Saddlebags vs Revelate bags
I hike-a-bike quite a bit, with the large SaddleSack and sometimes with the TourSacks under it. Neither has been an issue for me. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, November 1, 2013 4:53:11 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: Thanks, everybody, for your excellent, thought-provoking posts and links. Whoever mentioned those super-big 3 tires for off-road, yeah. The Krampus and the ECR look so cool. One thing I hadn't appreciated about the Revelate-style bags is that saddlebags that aren't any wider than me are not going to be a problem *when riding*. But they might be a problem *when pushing*. I almost never push my Atlantis when I'm touring-- that's what low gears are for-- but off-road, I'd definitely be spending plenty of time hike-a-biking. Rear panniers get in the way of my legs when pushing, and wide saddlebags are somewhat in the way as well. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Yep, I didn't mention it , but thigh rubbing is another non negotiable for me. For this reason I even ditched the Banana Bag I once had, I rigged it so it wouldn't rub, but then it would sway because I couldn't get the leather strap tight enough around the seat stays ... lol. The Revelate bags are like the Banana bag embiggened and perfected ! On Friday, November 1, 2013 5:00:34 PM UTC-4, sameness wrote: One possible minor benefit: Lesser likelihood of thigh contact? Never used a Revelate, but unless my Lowsaddle Longflap is packed pert near solid, it has a tendency to get a little floppy at the corners and bow in towards the back of the saddle. The thigh contact isn't a deal breaker, but if I had a choice in the matter, it wouldn't be happening. Jeff Hagedorn Warragul, VIC Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: Dura-Ace 7703 group, Square Taper BBs and some misc bits.
Updated one more time for what's left, prices on all now include postage w/in US Contact offlist for photos or to buy. Used Maxxis Ignitor 29x2.1 (kevlar/folding) $26 Used Bontrager Jones XR 29x2.25 (kevlar/folding) $20 Buy both for $38 Three pack of 26 tires $85 shipped, singles are $36 New Kenda Karma DTC L3R Pro 26.0 x 2.0 New Geax AKA 26 x 2.2 Maxxis Ignitor 26 x 2.1 (2 rides, like new) New and used SwissStop yellow pads, also full set of pad holders for V-brakes (nice upgrade over some canti pad holders) $40 for the package Misc.package $15 3 brake cable hangers for 1 steerer tube Front der braze on clamp, for 1.125 seat tube N-Gear Jump Stop chain guide, 1.125 seat tube Thorne seat collar with rear cable stop, new 31.8, $15 or add to any other item here for $10 Chris King mtb disc front hub axle to convert from 15Thru back to 9MM QR $35 Ritchey 31.8 stem 30deg, 100 length, may have been mounted to a bike to test fit, will also include a new quill adaptor if you can use it $30 SKS Race Blade fenders, 700c 18-23 (easily fit 25s) $35 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Atlantis is sold - thank you!
The Atlantis is going to a good home. Hard to see her go but am happy for all the future NC rides. Thanks to all who showed interest. What a pleasure it was to interact with you all. I appreciate it and wish you luck in your bike quests. My experiences selling this and the Simpleone exemplified this list at its best. Instead of a chore it was a pleasure. Warm regards, Tim Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Need collectives help on color choice.
The green is beautiful but the orange is unexpected. I vote orange. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: NOS 55cm Bleriot Frameset
Hey All- I've got a new, never ridden 55cm Bleriot frameset for sale. It's been hanging out in the shop for awhile just wanting to be built. Well, I decided to give up the ghost and let it be someone else's project. It has a Tange headset pressed in it. I got the frame like that. A few paint niks here and there. Nothing that you wouldn't expect from years of knocking around a shop. I would like $700 plus actual shipping. I might also be interested in trading for a 66cm+ Rivendell or other high quality steel frameset. Thanks much and have a great night! -Jeff Schmidt Minneapolis, MN. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Brake Pad Recommendations?
Peter: do you still want the pads? On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:49 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: Patrick, I could use those for a stump jumper winter project, if you can find them. On Oct 25, 2013 10:43 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I've got a pair or two of non-thread-post salmons that I can't use; postage gets me to look for them, discover if they are 2 or 4, and send them to you. You figger costs -- 2 pr can't be a lot more than 1. Contact me offlist. Send stamps. I will pack, stick on stamps, and forget. Or will trade for Bombadil. On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Mike On A Bike shaljia...@guilford.eduwrote: I have to buy some more Kool Stop inserts for my Avid v-brakes (because their stock pads make me wanna strangle kittens) and I found they're available on Amazon Prime. They can be sort of a pain for me to get from my LBS so this is good news. On Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:13:45 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: Indeed, Bill. Blowing through brakes is a good problem to have, especially if you're not on a steep hill at the time. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:03:18 PM UTC-6, Bill Gibson wrote: Well done Deacon Patrick. I am always proud of wearing out brake pads, rims, tires, chains, etc. Sad, though, when a frame cracks. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 7:53 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: Thanks again, Ron. Next time I have a parts question, I'll just write you off list. Grin. With abandon Patrick On Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:24:02 PM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote: $9/pair for Kook Stop salmon - hard to beat On Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:19:00 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I replaced my brake pads this spring after a year of use. Now, I nearly had to end a S24O before it started (but swapping sides worked) from brake metal on rim. I’ve admittedly done a lot more steep single track, with full gear, plus riding slow behind my daughters, so no doubt my use has increased. What’s the most cost effective quality brake pad for cantilevered brakes? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunchhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch . For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_outhttps://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out . -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS: NOS 55cm Bleriot Frameset
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Re: [RBW] Need collectives help on color choice.
I like the burnt orange, but how about a stealth bike with just a clear
coat?
On Friday, November 1, 2013, Evan wrote:
The green is beautiful but the orange is unexpected. I vote orange.
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[RBW] WTT: 6 cm and 10.5 or 11 mm, ~10* 1 1/8 threadless stems for ~ 9-11 with rise.
I am resurrecting my daughter's minimountainbike that has a stubby 6/31.8. I have an Easton 10.5-11, 25.4. Both very shallow -- not quite 90*. Either or both for something with rise and 9 and 11 cm. Thanks. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Highland Day Ride
Patrick, your pictures pull at me - I miss the mountains! On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Yeah, Hugh, you'd have to lose the beard mousse and spiced eyebrow wax for a few weeks lest the scents send me down the mountain. Grin. As far as stinking, I read a National Geographic article in which the crew described how before reaching the South American village they stopped at the river to take their first bath in weeks. The medicine man wouldn't go near them because they stunk. I knew exactly what he was talking about and couldn't stop laughing. Stink is in the nose of the besniffer. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:01:41 PM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote: 20 degrees and dark! I would say I'd love to join in but there's the matter of scents (not saying I stink) and that I think it's cold at 40 degrees, hey that is cold in Southern California :-) Seriously, I totally enjoy the scenery in your part of the world. One of these days I will ride in Colorado. ~Hugh On Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:16:14 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: Well it was a bundle and batten down your chihuahua type of day. 20˚F for most of my ride, as I started out before sunrise, and quickly climbed to 10,000+ feet. Lots of the ride was through 1-2” of remnant snow. I came to one cleaning and the chihuahua was less dog and more kite — someone hadn’t battened the poor lad down very well. Incredible views of Pikes Peak from an angle most don’t see. I passed the “Bigfoot Crossing” sign on the Pikes Peak Highway, but it was too dark for a photo, so it didn’t happen. Beautiful cloudless day and back by 2. What fantastic country this is to explore and play in! http://www.flickr.com/photos/**32311885@N07/sets/**72157637166639776http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157637166639776 With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
