[RBW] Re: 5001
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Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
My source was the Velocity USA web site so they need to update the product offerings :) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: not true, The A23 is made in the 584 rim size. Longleaf has them as well as Boulder. Both were special orders but they are available to buy right now. I have a set that Anthony built with a SP dynohub and hi flange Grand Bois rear hub. ~mike On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:32:13 PM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote: The Pari Moto also does well on the Aerohead which is narrower at 20 wide than the Synergy and deeper. The A23 is the same width (23) as Synergy and a bit deeper. The A23 is not offered in a 584 rim size though so Pari Motos won't go on it. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote: I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine. Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice. No drama or worries. Steve On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comwrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Velocity Rims, Again
I don't think the A23 is an official offering that they (Velocity) are planning to stock. Longleaf (and now Boulder, evidently) special ordered a batch. I assume there's a minimum number needed to make that happen. FWIW, I also have some more recent Synergy rims that are very true to size and nicely made. Came from the U.S. plant, though whether that's why they're better or it's just that Velocity retooled in response to undersized rim complaints is an open question... Steve On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.comwrote: My source was the Velocity USA web site so they need to update the product offerings :) On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.comwrote: not true, The A23 is made in the 584 rim size. Longleaf has them as well as Boulder. Both were special orders but they are available to buy right now. I have a set that Anthony built with a SP dynohub and hi flange Grand Bois rear hub. ~mike On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 4:32:13 PM UTC-8, Fullylugged wrote: The Pari Moto also does well on the Aerohead which is narrower at 20 wide than the Synergy and deeper. The A23 is the same width (23) as Synergy and a bit deeper. The A23 is not offered in a 584 rim size though so Pari Motos won't go on it. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote: I have that combo (A23 rim/PariMoto tire) on my Stag and they're fine. Mounted up snug but not unreasonably so, run true, ride nice. No drama or worries. Steve On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comwrote: The Hetere / Velocity thread seems to have veered toward a discussion of handling, so I decided to start over with a slightly different question. I ride the Synergy rim with Pari-Moto tires. It is true that they mount pretty loosely and it is hard to get them perfectly centered but I have gotten them good enough and have no problem with the ride or security. However, I just noticed, in the last issue of BQ, that Velocity is now offering, through Boulder cycles, a new rim, the A23, which they describe as shallower, stronger, and shinier (!). Has anyone on the list tried these rims? Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Velocity Rims, Again
Given the great adjustability of modern brake pads, I find it difficult to believe that a canti couldn't be squared to the rim. And, even if it was initially not square I would expect it to wear toward a flat connection, not the reverse. It is also hard to understand why Velocity would design such a rim, given that cantis remain the most popular choice for wide tire applications, way more than side pulls for sure. Now, if only they could get the price down to something much more affordable. Is the hi price being driven by the extra polishing? Why polish something that runs 40 mm from the road? Michael On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:32:23 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: I read this thread with interest, as I am putting the finishing touches on the Winter issue of *Bicycle Quarterly*. This issue includes a test of the 650B Velocity A23 rims. I checked the brake tracks of our samples, and they are parallel, as they should be. So they work as well with any brake type as most other rims. The aero shape is below the brake track, and does not affect braking in any way. It's interesting that while there are so many wonderful 650B tires available, few well-designed 650B rims are available today. Without giving too much away, the Velocity A23 appears to solve that problem, finally. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
Can you install a wider bottom bracket? You can get a Shimano UN55 square taper 68 x 127.5 on Amazon.com for ~$20. That'll increase the Q-factor (quite a bit, if you're currently using 113). shoji On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:07:13 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: The Ultegra on the Paul Taylor is a triple. Heh...the BMX pedals on the Paul Taylor are Zefals I got at Walmart for $20 or so. I hate Walmart, but there I was in the store puttering around and I found these pedals that had buttery smooth sealed bearings. I couldn't believe it. All the other pedals had bearings that felt like a cobblestone street. So I bought them. When I got them home, I realized they were 1/2 inch thread. Oops. I found some 1/2 to 9/16 adaptors I had sitting around and I put them on. Cycling nirvana. Who knew? Believe me I don't really want to spend two minutes thinking about q factor. I just want the pedals to end up being wider, whatever it takes. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Is the Ultegra double or triple ? I can't imagine it would be much different in Q than the Carmina. Also, what kind of BMX pedals are using with the Ultegra, and what kind of pedals with the Carmina. I use Wellgo MG-1's , which are about as wide a BMX style pedals as you're going to find @112 mm . FWIW ... I used to think about Q factor alot. I got tired of thinking about ! So I told myself forget about it. I realized it was me, not my knees that was fussy. Body follows mind. Forget about what ? ... Exactly ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Book Hatchet Party Nov 15
Somehow the idea of mixing bikes, bonfires, books, booze and hatchets sounds strangely appealing... You guys on the left coast have all the fun... On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:25:38 PM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: Rivendell Bike Book Hatchet Party Nov 15. Link proved it's happening: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rbbh.htm I smell an after ride-party! Shell Ridge Night ride? Or a possible overnight shindig? I'm down for either maybe a little of both. Anyone else ? -Manny Party it up Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
Hi All - Does anyone know if Riv plan to make it available electronically from the Rivbike site or the new Riv shop specific BBH site? I've really enjoyed the RivReaders in the past and saw the link to sign up but figured I shouldn't be asking for it to be posted to the UK. I love hearing Grant's opinions and enjoy their publications tremendously. I've bought a fair amount from Riv over the years and it's a direct result of the things that I've read and seen either on their website or in the RivReaders. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 3:43:27 AM UTC, Michael wrote: They musta run out a few weeks ago, because I have had two catalogue-less deliveries from them over the last two weeks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell Bike Book Hatchet Party Nov 15
This kind of serendipity shouldn't be ignored. If there were an overnight event, I would probably change my flight to Saturday AM. On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 10:25:38 PM UTC-5, Manuel Acosta wrote: Rivendell Bike Book Hatchet Party Nov 15. Link proved it's happening: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/rbbh.htm I smell an after ride-party! Shell Ridge Night ride? Or a possible overnight shindig? I'm down for either maybe a little of both. Anyone else ? -Manny Party it up Acosta -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
They've still got a bunch ... I'd maybe just write a little note in the comments box of your order if you didn't yet receive one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
I orderd one of the catalogs as soon as it popped up...guess I must have been customer 5001 or higher...CRAP! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
After reading the post by Pudge I called Rivendell to place an order. I spoke to Kevin and he affirmed that they will send a catalog with any order. I ordered the bell that Riv sells with a headset spacer mount. I'm looking forward to receiving the catalog - I have many of the catalogs that Rivendell has published including the very earliest ones. Grant's writing always makes the catalogs a treat! Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 9:47:52 AM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: I orderd one of the catalogs as soon as it popped up...guess I must have been customer 5001 or higher...CRAP! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Flash San Diego Riv Ride Saturday the 9th.
Drat, I'll be coming back from SF on Saturday... On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:46:04 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Well for you we'll have you climb Black Mountain and take a picture :-) Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.comjavascript: wrote: I'll be there! The more climbing the better I say. and beer too. ~mike On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:32:34 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Hi SoCal Riv Riders especially San Diegans, Flash ride! If you don't have anything planned then here is an opportunity to see some beautiful North County San Diego terrain. When: *Saturday November 9th* *11:00 am* Where: Meet up at *Del Mar Starbucks corner of 15th Camino Del Mar*. Ride: A mixed terrain route up Los Penasquitos Canyon Preserve through the Bucolic Rancho Santa Fe and ending in Solana Beach, CA by the Pacific and Pizza Port for no other than liquid carbohydrates and pizza pie! Approximately 26 miles not too many climbs more rolling, but if you complain we can always add a few 15% grades to make you happy. Come one come all! *If your visiting San Diego then join in on the fun*. I will have a route slips for everyone. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TAC8NyLuLTc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] RE: Nigel Smythe Tweed Saddlebag
Time for a bag purge, eh? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Schwartz Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 12:21 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Saddlebag For sale is a Nigel Smythe tweed saddlebag by Rivendell Bicycle Works. All hardware is intact except for one quick release stud on main compartment flap strap. Good used condition, dirt and marks from use. No holes or rips, just normal wear. Please see the attached photo, more pics and info on request. Asking $100 including US shipping. Paypal, please. Returns OK within 3 days of receipt. Thanks, Marc _ ___ ___ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] RE: Nigel Smythe Tweed Saddlebag
Long overdue From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on behalf of Allingham II, Thomas J [thomas.alling...@skadden.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 10:22 AM To: 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com' Subject: [RBW] RE: Nigel Smythe Tweed Saddlebag Time for a bag purge, eh? -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Marc Schwartz Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 12:21 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Saddlebag For sale is a Nigel Smythe tweed saddlebag by Rivendell Bicycle Works. All hardware is intact except for one quick release stud on main compartment flap strap. Good used condition, dirt and marks from use. No holes or rips, just normal wear. Please see the attached photo, more pics and info on request. Asking $100 including US shipping. Paypal, please. Returns OK within 3 days of receipt. Thanks, Marc _ ___ ___ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
Wider bottom bracket will just throw the chain line off, so I wouldn't go that route. I think the Kneesavers aren't that bad of an idea. It will be $45.00 well spent in my opinion. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Can you install a wider bottom bracket? You can get a Shimano UN55 square taper 68 x 127.5 on Amazon.com for ~$20. That'll increase the Q-factor (quite a bit, if you're currently using 113). shoji On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:07:13 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: The Ultegra on the Paul Taylor is a triple. Heh...the BMX pedals on the Paul Taylor are Zefals I got at Walmart for $20 or so. I hate Walmart, but there I was in the store puttering around and I found these pedals that had buttery smooth sealed bearings. I couldn't believe it. All the other pedals had bearings that felt like a cobblestone street. So I bought them. When I got them home, I realized they were 1/2 inch thread. Oops. I found some 1/2 to 9/16 adaptors I had sitting around and I put them on. Cycling nirvana. Who knew? Believe me I don't really want to spend two minutes thinking about q factor. I just want the pedals to end up being wider, whatever it takes. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Ultegra double or triple ? I can't imagine it would be much different in Q than the Carmina. Also, what kind of BMX pedals are using with the Ultegra, and what kind of pedals with the Carmina. I use Wellgo MG-1's , which are about as wide a BMX style pedals as you're going to find @112 mm . FWIW ... I used to think about Q factor alot. I got tired of thinking about ! So I told myself forget about it. I realized it was me, not my knees that was fussy. Body follows mind. Forget about what ? ... Exactly ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
ok, been wanting another pair of knickers... On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 10:15:47 AM UTC-6, Coconutbill wrote: They've still got a bunch ... I'd maybe just write a little note in the comments box of your order if you didn't yet receive one. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
Good point in chain line! On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 12:31:22 PM UTC-5, blakcloud wrote: Wider bottom bracket will just throw the chain line off, so I wouldn't go that route. I think the Kneesavers aren't that bad of an idea. It will be $45.00 well spent in my opinion. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Can you install a wider bottom bracket? You can get a Shimano UN55 square taper 68 x 127.5 on Amazon.com for ~$20. That'll increase the Q-factor (quite a bit, if you're currently using 113). shoji On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:07:13 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: The Ultegra on the Paul Taylor is a triple. Heh...the BMX pedals on the Paul Taylor are Zefals I got at Walmart for $20 or so. I hate Walmart, but there I was in the store puttering around and I found these pedals that had buttery smooth sealed bearings. I couldn't believe it. All the other pedals had bearings that felt like a cobblestone street. So I bought them. When I got them home, I realized they were 1/2 inch thread. Oops. I found some 1/2 to 9/16 adaptors I had sitting around and I put them on. Cycling nirvana. Who knew? Believe me I don't really want to spend two minutes thinking about q factor. I just want the pedals to end up being wider, whatever it takes. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Ultegra double or triple ? I can't imagine it would be much different in Q than the Carmina. Also, what kind of BMX pedals are using with the Ultegra, and what kind of pedals with the Carmina. I use Wellgo MG-1's , which are about as wide a BMX style pedals as you're going to find @112 mm . FWIW ... I used to think about Q factor alot. I got tired of thinking about ! So I told myself forget about it. I realized it was me, not my knees that was fussy. Body follows mind. Forget about what ? ... Exactly ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
kneesavers looks like a simple answer - cheaper than pedals, BB, etc. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 11:31:22 AM UTC-6, blakcloud wrote: Wider bottom bracket will just throw the chain line off, so I wouldn't go that route. I think the Kneesavers aren't that bad of an idea. It will be $45.00 well spent in my opinion. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 9:47:34 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote: Can you install a wider bottom bracket? You can get a Shimano UN55 square taper 68 x 127.5 on Amazon.com for ~$20. That'll increase the Q-factor (quite a bit, if you're currently using 113). shoji On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 11:07:13 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: The Ultegra on the Paul Taylor is a triple. Heh...the BMX pedals on the Paul Taylor are Zefals I got at Walmart for $20 or so. I hate Walmart, but there I was in the store puttering around and I found these pedals that had buttery smooth sealed bearings. I couldn't believe it. All the other pedals had bearings that felt like a cobblestone street. So I bought them. When I got them home, I realized they were 1/2 inch thread. Oops. I found some 1/2 to 9/16 adaptors I had sitting around and I put them on. Cycling nirvana. Who knew? Believe me I don't really want to spend two minutes thinking about q factor. I just want the pedals to end up being wider, whatever it takes. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 8:38 PM, Garth gart...@gmail.com wrote: Is the Ultegra double or triple ? I can't imagine it would be much different in Q than the Carmina. Also, what kind of BMX pedals are using with the Ultegra, and what kind of pedals with the Carmina. I use Wellgo MG-1's , which are about as wide a BMX style pedals as you're going to find @112 mm . FWIW ... I used to think about Q factor alot. I got tired of thinking about ! So I told myself forget about it. I realized it was me, not my knees that was fussy. Body follows mind. Forget about what ? ... Exactly ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Flash San Diego Riv Ride Saturday the 9th.
There will be others :-) Best, ~Hugh On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Drat, I'll be coming back from SF on Saturday... On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 7:46:04 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Well for you we'll have you climb Black Mountain and take a picture :-) Best, ~Hugh On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:43 PM, Mike Schiller mikey...@rocketmail.comwrote: I'll be there! The more climbing the better I say. and beer too. ~mike On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 6:32:34 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Hi SoCal Riv Riders especially San Diegans, Flash ride! If you don't have anything planned then here is an opportunity to see some beautiful North County San Diego terrain. When: *Saturday November 9th* *11:00 am* Where: Meet up at *Del Mar Starbucks corner of 15th Camino Del Mar*. Ride: A mixed terrain route up Los Penasquitos Canyon Preserve through the Bucolic Rancho Santa Fe and ending in Solana Beach, CA by the Pacific and Pizza Port for no other than liquid carbohydrates and pizza pie! Approximately 26 miles not too many climbs more rolling, but if you complain we can always add a few 15% grades to make you happy. Come one come all! *If your visiting San Diego then join in on the fun* . I will have a route slips for everyone. ~Hugh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/ topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TAC8NyLuLTc/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/TAC8NyLuLTc/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
All I can say is that they (knee savers) are widely used and appreciated by recumbent riders. A simple solution of they scratch your itch. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Velocity Rims, Again
Given that the current A23 has parallel sidewalls, it doesn't matter whether or not I was right claiming that my A23s a couple years ago were parallel or not. I'm becoming increasingly convinced that I was simply wrong about it. The only thing I'll point out to the why would they do that? question is that Velocity did not design this rim for wide tire applications and cantilever brakes. Velocity designed this rim for 700c road bikes which mainly have caliper brakes. They only agreed to manufacture some of the A23 extrusion in 650B when they were paid to do so by Longleaf and Boulder. There have been plenty of rims out there with non-parallel sidewalls in the past, but virtually all rim-brake rims today are parallel and that's a good thing. Regarding price, the 700c version seems to go for ~$55 - $60 online from discounters. Normal retailers are in the $70 range. Longleaf sells the non-polished 650B A23 for $80 and Boulder sells the polished ones for $99. If Velocity did in fact make it a standard offering, then hopefully the volumes would get it down approaching the price of the 700c ones, or at least we'd be able to buy a non-polished one for around $75-$80 per rim. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 5:05:26 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: Given the great adjustability of modern brake pads, I find it difficult to believe that a canti couldn't be squared to the rim. And, even if it was initially not square I would expect it to wear toward a flat connection, not the reverse. It is also hard to understand why Velocity would design such a rim, given that cantis remain the most popular choice for wide tire applications, way more than side pulls for sure. Now, if only they could get the price down to something much more affordable. Is the hi price being driven by the extra polishing? Why polish something that runs 40 mm from the road? Michael On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 5:32:23 PM UTC-5, Jan Heine wrote: I read this thread with interest, as I am putting the finishing touches on the Winter issue of *Bicycle Quarterly*. This issue includes a test of the 650B Velocity A23 rims. I checked the brake tracks of our samples, and they are parallel, as they should be. So they work as well with any brake type as most other rims. The aero shape is below the brake track, and does not affect braking in any way. It's interesting that while there are so many wonderful 650B tires available, few well-designed 650B rims are available today. Without giving too much away, the Velocity A23 appears to solve that problem, finally. Jan Heine Editor Bicycle Quarterly http://www.bikequarterly.com Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] 'Nother Big 'Un on The Bay
Nice looking Sam: http://www.ebay.com/itm/291010434449 Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
I bought a set of Sunlite Pedal Extenders, but I never mounted them so I can't speak to quality. Will those work for you? They're $16 from Niagra or Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Pedal-Extenders-Crank-27-5mm/dp/B000QDGJVU Kevin Chicago, IL On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:01:10 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so I have discovered that I really prefer a wider stance width, q-factor, and so forth. I used to drink the kool-aid on the narrow q-factor but now I realize it doesn't work with my body. I have some 1/2 BMX pedals with 9/16ths adaptors and that seems to spread things out pretty nicely to my liking on my Paul Taylor custom. On that bike it's using Ultegra cranks, so I'm not sure what the starting Q factor is there but I suppose I could rotate the left crank around and measure. But anyway I was recently able to ride a 200K brevet with the least amount of knee pain that I have had in probably 5 years. However, my Paul Taylor is entirely unsuitable overall for anything beyond 200K brevets, and is really questionable even for those. It's pretty stretched out, which is great for going faster but not so great for comfort. My upper body ached at the end of the 200K. The bike I want to use for this riding is my Rivendell. On a recent ride on the Riv with flat pedals my feet were wanting to be halfway off the outside of the pedals. I have thought of a new crankset to fix these issues. However, I decided I would like to try to salvage my relationship with my TA Carmina triple. Other than being too narrow, I like the 50-38-26 rings that it has and it looks reasonably nice to boot. Plus, they're already on the bike and I'd rather not go through the trial and error involved with trying a new crankset. Not to mention, the Carmina was expensive and the money was already sunk years ago. I found something online called Kneesavers which is a spacer that goes between the crank and the pedal and comes in a 20mm, 25mm and 30mm width. But they are $45.00. That seems a little unreasonable for a piece of stainless steel that doesn't even contain any bearings. Any other options out there to add a couple/few centimeters of width to one's pedal stance? -Jim -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: 'Nother Big 'Un on The Bay
Ahhh I want that frame. SH orange, canti-posts. Perfect. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nitto 46cm Noodle Bars
Hi all: Recently purchased 46cm Nitto Noodles but discovered I prefer the 44cm. Therefore I've got nearly new (mounted once, ridden maybe 5 miles) 46cm Nitto Noodles for sale. How about $50? John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. attachment: bars.JPG
[RBW] RE: Nigel Smythe Tweed Saddlebag
I really like this bag. Except for losing the qr studs. Does anyone have a source for replacements? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
Don't be disappointed if you don't get one. They skipped me last two weeks, not that it is a big deal, just don't want you guys to get all crestfallen if it doesn't show up in t'order. Hopefully you will get one though. They look like a fun read. Anyone know if they are for sale now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: POLL: You like Gray or black housing for your Rivendell? Ferrules?
I just got the Yokozuna kits for my Bleriot. I did the brakes today. Shifters later. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: 44cm Noodle
40$ plus shipping to CONUS. Very clean. Very young. See it here: http://baltimore.craigslist.org/bik/4134938693.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Nigel Smythe Tweed Saddlebag
I can't remember the name, but if you search the internets for bag/purse-maker supplies, you'll find it. I ordered some for a used Smythe bag I bought a few years ago. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 1:35:31 PM UTC-8, Minh wrote: I really like this bag. Except for losing the qr studs. Does anyone have a source for replacements? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
I specifically asked for one with my order, and I will certainly be disappointed if I don't receive it. On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 4:52:04 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Don't be disappointed if you don't get one. They skipped me last two weeks, not that it is a big deal, just don't want you guys to get all crestfallen if it doesn't show up in t'order. Hopefully you will get one though. They look like a fun read. Anyone know if they are for sale now? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
I asked for one with an order (new sage mocky, most excellent shirt!) and there it was, so I have something to pore over for a few weeks. Love the ligatures, but not sure what the bold font on first three characters in each sentence is all about. - Andrew, Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Saddlebag
Oooo. I need another bag like I need an extra hole in the head (although the bag would be more useful); I really don't need to be buying anything for myself either... but that's a nice bag... H -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Nitto M-12 Rack Mounting on Atlantis
Anyone done this lately? I just got my rack and did a quick fit-up, appears it will need some bending to make it work. Is there some conventional wisdom on whether to bend at the fork crown bolt or the canti stud arms? My gut is to bend the arms not the crown bolt but it is possible that both will require adjustment. Thanks in advance! Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Pair of Jack Brown Green tires, less than 50 miles
Hi Rivsters: I have a pair of Jack Brown Green (700C x 33.3 mm) tires for sale. They were mounted once and ridden less than 50 miles. Happy to provide pictures upon request. Lots of info on the Riv web site about these tires: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/t100-g.htm Asking $85 for the pair shipped within the USA by USPS Priority Mail. Payment by Paypal please. PS: The tires are GREAT. The reason I'm selling them is that I ordered a beautiful, retro Bianchi wool jersey from the UK. The current exchange rate is bad so the price is A LOT more than I told my wife s the tires have to go to make up the difference. Thanks, Doug Way Boulder, CO Atlantis and Roadeo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
Specialized makes some nice stainless steel ones... unfortunately they're equally expensive at $40. I have them on two bikes (the third has pedals ordered with custom extra length spindles). http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftr/shoes/equipsparepartsshoes/body-geometry-pedal-axle-extenders On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: OK, so I have discovered that I really prefer a wider stance width, q-factor, and so forth. I used to drink the kool-aid on the narrow q-factor but now I realize it doesn't work with my body. I have some 1/2 BMX pedals with 9/16ths adaptors and that seems to spread things out pretty nicely to my liking on my Paul Taylor custom. On that bike it's using Ultegra cranks, so I'm not sure what the starting Q factor is there but I suppose I could rotate the left crank around and measure. But anyway I was recently able to ride a 200K brevet with the least amount of knee pain that I have had in probably 5 years. However, my Paul Taylor is entirely unsuitable overall for anything beyond 200K brevets, and is really questionable even for those. It's pretty stretched out, which is great for going faster but not so great for comfort. My upper body ached at the end of the 200K. The bike I want to use for this riding is my Rivendell. On a recent ride on the Riv with flat pedals my feet were wanting to be halfway off the outside of the pedals. I have thought of a new crankset to fix these issues. However, I decided I would like to try to salvage my relationship with my TA Carmina triple. Other than being too narrow, I like the 50-38-26 rings that it has and it looks reasonably nice to boot. Plus, they're already on the bike and I'd rather not go through the trial and error involved with trying a new crankset. Not to mention, the Carmina was expensive and the money was already sunk years ago. I found something online called Kneesavers which is a spacer that goes between the crank and the pedal and comes in a 20mm, 25mm and 30mm width. But they are $45.00. That seems a little unreasonable for a piece of stainless steel that doesn't even contain any bearings. Any other options out there to add a couple/few centimeters of width to one's pedal stance? -Jim -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
I kept thinking I'd only paid $20 for them... sure enough, I found the original order e-mail and I did only pay $20 per pair for them... I now wish I'd have ordered a few more pair because I've been wanting another set! On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:39 PM, Rex Kerr rexk...@gmail.com wrote: Specialized makes some nice stainless steel ones... unfortunately they're equally expensive at $40. I have them on two bikes (the third has pedals ordered with custom extra length spindles). http://www.specialized.com/us/en/ftr/shoes/equipsparepartsshoes/body-geometry-pedal-axle-extenders On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: OK, so I have discovered that I really prefer a wider stance width, q-factor, and so forth. I used to drink the kool-aid on the narrow q-factor but now I realize it doesn't work with my body. I have some 1/2 BMX pedals with 9/16ths adaptors and that seems to spread things out pretty nicely to my liking on my Paul Taylor custom. On that bike it's using Ultegra cranks, so I'm not sure what the starting Q factor is there but I suppose I could rotate the left crank around and measure. But anyway I was recently able to ride a 200K brevet with the least amount of knee pain that I have had in probably 5 years. However, my Paul Taylor is entirely unsuitable overall for anything beyond 200K brevets, and is really questionable even for those. It's pretty stretched out, which is great for going faster but not so great for comfort. My upper body ached at the end of the 200K. The bike I want to use for this riding is my Rivendell. On a recent ride on the Riv with flat pedals my feet were wanting to be halfway off the outside of the pedals. I have thought of a new crankset to fix these issues. However, I decided I would like to try to salvage my relationship with my TA Carmina triple. Other than being too narrow, I like the 50-38-26 rings that it has and it looks reasonably nice to boot. Plus, they're already on the bike and I'd rather not go through the trial and error involved with trying a new crankset. Not to mention, the Carmina was expensive and the money was already sunk years ago. I found something online called Kneesavers which is a spacer that goes between the crank and the pedal and comes in a 20mm, 25mm and 30mm width. But they are $45.00. That seems a little unreasonable for a piece of stainless steel that doesn't even contain any bearings. Any other options out there to add a couple/few centimeters of width to one's pedal stance? -Jim -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Ride report: Tuesday after dark in Pittsburgh
The erstwhile group gathered at the standard coffee shop start and headed out on a warm feeling from various forms of caffeination. We headed south on Highland through East Liberty and across the brand new busway/Amtrak bridge on Highland. Nicely done, with obvious design props to pedestrians and cyclists. Through west Shadyside on Ellsworth to Neville and down into the darkness of Panther Hollow and the river level riding. Here along the rivers are the most useful byways for bicycles; direct, level, car-free routes to downtown. Besides bridges, there are reasons to cross the rivers. We go again to the Southside for the lights, the activity, the climbs and the views. Immediately off the foot of the Hot metal Bridge across the Monongahela River we take the river trail to 18th street. On 18th we cross from Southside flats to the slopes right at a classic set of city steps; staircases following the linear path of a road drawn on a map whose steepness exceeds the engineers' ability to build a street and instead becomes a concrete staircase, many keeping the street name for their ascent. On top of the high ground south of the Mon River we stop for a bit at a monastery with a view, ascend an alley and plod through Allentown dodging the trolley rails, ever seeking higher ground. We turn onto Virginia Avenue and time a few stoplights from steeply above so that we bomb down the hill to the green lights at intersections with bigger, busier roads, and carry our inertia up the subsequent hills. The top of the last one affords us a right turn and in two blocks we emerge on Grandview Avenue, high across from downtown Pittsburgh. Several sights and photo ops distract. Our elevator this evening will be Sycamore Road. A nasty, twisting steepness once used against pro riders in the Thrift Drug Classic, including Armstrong. We do what they couldn't however, we descend it in the dark. It throws twists beyond imagination, an uncertain surface and periods of elevation loss that combine to disorient until we get close enough to other lights to gain an ambient generalization of the roadway. Back to reality, or river level, we cross from Station Square to downtown on the Smithfield Street Bridge and merge onto the Eliza Furnace (Jail) trail to move in the dark towards Panther Hollow again. Once in the cool quiet of the Hollow we are sure we hear a train coming. Sort of like one of those Halloween stories but this one actually had three headlights and caught up to us just before our turn through a lower campus CMU garage. Seriously, a train crossing Neville Street at 8:30 pm? The CMU campus is a wonderland with it's LED-lit Pausch Bridge and the Santa's workshop garages on the bottom of the building, where I snapped a picture of a driverless Suburban in the build phase. It shared hanger space with a couple of buggy-like rigs destined for much more austere environs than this campus or planet. Back up in the neighborhoods, on the high ground, we trace our paths back to our start and another installation of a post ride gathering. Fast adieus following. I had a 4 am wake up and some sweet sleep to enjoy before then. As always, an enjoyable evening in the saddle seeing what is always around us in a different light, uh, rather absence of light. Again in a week! Pictures as proof: https://plus.google.com/photos/109160474815391208206/albums/5943325895674086513?authkey=CMKkwLmCtLesmAE Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
I've used Knee Savers in a couple of sizes on two bikes, together with Grip Kings. Aside from the fact that I no longer have the dollars spent on them, I'm pretty happy with the results. Given my anatomy (shoe size and turn-out), I wouldn't be able to use the Grip Kings otherwise. rod On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 9:01:10 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so I have discovered that I really prefer a wider stance width, q-factor, and so forth. I used to drink the kool-aid on the narrow q-factor but now I realize it doesn't work with my body. I have some 1/2 BMX pedals with 9/16ths adaptors and that seems to spread things out pretty nicely to my liking on my Paul Taylor custom. On that bike it's using Ultegra cranks, so I'm not sure what the starting Q factor is there but I suppose I could rotate the left crank around and measure. But anyway I was recently able to ride a 200K brevet with the least amount of knee pain that I have had in probably 5 years. However, my Paul Taylor is entirely unsuitable overall for anything beyond 200K brevets, and is really questionable even for those. It's pretty stretched out, which is great for going faster but not so great for comfort. My upper body ached at the end of the 200K. The bike I want to use for this riding is my Rivendell. On a recent ride on the Riv with flat pedals my feet were wanting to be halfway off the outside of the pedals. I have thought of a new crankset to fix these issues. However, I decided I would like to try to salvage my relationship with my TA Carmina triple. Other than being too narrow, I like the 50-38-26 rings that it has and it looks reasonably nice to boot. Plus, they're already on the bike and I'd rather not go through the trial and error involved with trying a new crankset. Not to mention, the Carmina was expensive and the money was already sunk years ago. I found something online called Kneesavers which is a spacer that goes between the crank and the pedal and comes in a 20mm, 25mm and 30mm width. But they are $45.00. That seems a little unreasonable for a piece of stainless steel that doesn't even contain any bearings. Any other options out there to add a couple/few centimeters of width to one's pedal stance? -Jim -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
Has the Fatty Rumpkin become the Farmer Grumpkin? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Catalogue
Leslie: is that a typographer's joke? Hilarious! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/6/13, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Has the Fatty Rumpkin become the Farmer Grumpkin? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride report: Tuesday after dark in Pittsburgh
Andy- thanks so much for these reports. I have been enjoying them immensely! They bring back some real good memories (there's a long-standing, informal, nebby non-club, club ride-club based out of a friendly coffee shop in one of PGH-PA's 462 little neighborhoods...). Pausch Bridge! Pittsburgh is such a great city. To ride around in, leisurely, on a TUE night... Best regards to you, John, the bunch... =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/6/13, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: The erstwhile group gathered at the standard coffee shop start and headed out on a warm feeling from various forms of caffeination. We headed south on Highland through East Liberty and across the brand new busway/Amtrak bridge on Highland. Nicely done, with obvious design props to pedestrians and cyclists. Through west Shadyside on Ellsworth to Neville and down into the darkness of Panther Hollow and the river level riding. Here along the rivers are the most useful byways for bicycles; direct, level, car-free routes to downtown. Besides bridges, there are reasons to cross the rivers. We go again to the Southside for the lights, the activity, the climbs and the views. Immediately off the foot of the Hot metal Bridge across the Monongahela River we take the river trail to 18th street. On 18th we cross from Southside flats to the slopes right at a classic set of city steps; staircases following the linear path of a road drawn on a map whose steepness exceeds the engineers' ability to build a street and instead becomes a concrete staircase, many keeping the street name for their ascent. On top of the high ground south of the Mon River we stop for a bit at a monastery with a view, ascend an alley and plod through Allentown dodging the trolley rails, ever seeking higher ground. We turn onto Virginia Avenue and time a few stoplights from steeply above so that we bomb down the hill to the green lights at intersections with bigger, busier roads, and carry our inertia up the subsequent hills. The top of the last one affords us a right turn and in two blocks we emerge on Grandview Avenue, high across from downtown Pittsburgh. Several sights and photo ops distract. Our elevator this evening will be Sycamore Road. A nasty, twisting steepness once used against pro riders in the Thrift Drug Classic, including Armstrong. We do what they couldn't however, we descend it in the dark. It throws twists beyond imagination, an uncertain surface and periods of elevation loss that combine to disorient until we get close enough to other lights to gain an ambient generalization of the roadway. Back to reality, or river level, we cross from Station Square to downtown on the Smithfield Street Bridge and merge onto the Eliza Furnace (Jail) trail to move in the dark towards Panther Hollow again. Once in the cool quiet of the Hollow we are sure we hear a train coming. Sort of like one of those Halloween stories but this one actually had three headlights and caught up to us just before our turn through a lower campus CMU garage. Seriously, a train crossing Neville Street at 8:30 pm? The CMU campus is a wonderland with it's LED-lit Pausch Bridge and the Santa's workshop garages on the bottom of the building, where I snapped a picture of a driverless Suburban in the build phase. It shared hanger space with a couple of buggy-like rigs destined for much more austere environs than this campus or planet. Back up in the neighborhoods, on the high ground, we trace our paths back to our start and another installation of a post ride gathering. Fast adieus following. I had a 4 am wake up and some sweet sleep to enjoy before then. As always, an enjoyable evening in the saddle seeing what is always around us in a different light, uh, rather absence of light. Again in a week! Pictures as proof: https://plus.google.com/photos/109160474815391208206/albums/5943325895674086513?authkey=CMKkwLmCtLesmAE Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Ride report: Tuesday after dark in Pittsburgh
Yes, very thoughtful write up, Andy! On 11/6/13, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Andy- thanks so much for these reports. I have been enjoying them immensely! They bring back some real good memories (there's a long-standing, informal, nebby non-club, club ride-club based out of a friendly coffee shop in one of PGH-PA's 462 little neighborhoods...). Pausch Bridge! Pittsburgh is such a great city. To ride around in, leisurely, on a TUE night... Best regards to you, John, the bunch... =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/6/13, ascpgh asc@gmail.com wrote: The erstwhile group gathered at the standard coffee shop start and headed out on a warm feeling from various forms of caffeination. We headed south on Highland through East Liberty and across the brand new busway/Amtrak bridge on Highland. Nicely done, with obvious design props to pedestrians and cyclists. Through west Shadyside on Ellsworth to Neville and down into the darkness of Panther Hollow and the river level riding. Here along the rivers are the most useful byways for bicycles; direct, level, car-free routes to downtown. Besides bridges, there are reasons to cross the rivers. We go again to the Southside for the lights, the activity, the climbs and the views. Immediately off the foot of the Hot metal Bridge across the Monongahela River we take the river trail to 18th street. On 18th we cross from Southside flats to the slopes right at a classic set of city steps; staircases following the linear path of a road drawn on a map whose steepness exceeds the engineers' ability to build a street and instead becomes a concrete staircase, many keeping the street name for their ascent. On top of the high ground south of the Mon River we stop for a bit at a monastery with a view, ascend an alley and plod through Allentown dodging the trolley rails, ever seeking higher ground. We turn onto Virginia Avenue and time a few stoplights from steeply above so that we bomb down the hill to the green lights at intersections with bigger, busier roads, and carry our inertia up the subsequent hills. The top of the last one affords us a right turn and in two blocks we emerge on Grandview Avenue, high across from downtown Pittsburgh. Several sights and photo ops distract. Our elevator this evening will be Sycamore Road. A nasty, twisting steepness once used against pro riders in the Thrift Drug Classic, including Armstrong. We do what they couldn't however, we descend it in the dark. It throws twists beyond imagination, an uncertain surface and periods of elevation loss that combine to disorient until we get close enough to other lights to gain an ambient generalization of the roadway. Back to reality, or river level, we cross from Station Square to downtown on the Smithfield Street Bridge and merge onto the Eliza Furnace (Jail) trail to move in the dark towards Panther Hollow again. Once in the cool quiet of the Hollow we are sure we hear a train coming. Sort of like one of those Halloween stories but this one actually had three headlights and caught up to us just before our turn through a lower campus CMU garage. Seriously, a train crossing Neville Street at 8:30 pm? The CMU campus is a wonderland with it's LED-lit Pausch Bridge and the Santa's workshop garages on the bottom of the building, where I snapped a picture of a driverless Suburban in the build phase. It shared hanger space with a couple of buggy-like rigs destined for much more austere environs than this campus or planet. Back up in the neighborhoods, on the high ground, we trace our paths back to our start and another installation of a post ride gathering. Fast adieus following. I had a 4 am wake up and some sweet sleep to enjoy before then. As always, an enjoyable evening in the saddle seeing what is always around us in a different light, uh, rather absence of light. Again in a week! Pictures as proof: https://plus.google.com/photos/109160474815391208206/albums/5943325895674086513?authkey=CMKkwLmCtLesmAE Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --
Re: [RBW] Re: Kneesavers, is there a more reasonable alternative?
Excellent, thanks Kevin. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Kevin Mulcahy kpmulc...@gmail.com wrote: I bought a set of Sunlite Pedal Extenders, but I never mounted them so I can't speak to quality. Will those work for you? They're $16 from Niagra or Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Sunlite-Pedal-Extenders-Crank-27-5mm/dp/B000QDGJVU Kevin Chicago, IL On Tuesday, November 5, 2013 8:01:10 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: OK, so I have discovered that I really prefer a wider stance width, q-factor, and so forth. I used to drink the kool-aid on the narrow q-factor but now I realize it doesn't work with my body. I have some 1/2 BMX pedals with 9/16ths adaptors and that seems to spread things out pretty nicely to my liking on my Paul Taylor custom. On that bike it's using Ultegra cranks, so I'm not sure what the starting Q factor is there but I suppose I could rotate the left crank around and measure. But anyway I was recently able to ride a 200K brevet with the least amount of knee pain that I have had in probably 5 years. However, my Paul Taylor is entirely unsuitable overall for anything beyond 200K brevets, and is really questionable even for those. It's pretty stretched out, which is great for going faster but not so great for comfort. My upper body ached at the end of the 200K. The bike I want to use for this riding is my Rivendell. On a recent ride on the Riv with flat pedals my feet were wanting to be halfway off the outside of the pedals. I have thought of a new crankset to fix these issues. However, I decided I would like to try to salvage my relationship with my TA Carmina triple. Other than being too narrow, I like the 50-38-26 rings that it has and it looks reasonably nice to boot. Plus, they're already on the bike and I'd rather not go through the trial and error involved with trying a new crankset. Not to mention, the Carmina was expensive and the money was already sunk years ago. I found something online called Kneesavers which is a spacer that goes between the crank and the pedal and comes in a 20mm, 25mm and 30mm width. But they are $45.00. That seems a little unreasonable for a piece of stainless steel that doesn't even contain any bearings. Any other options out there to add a couple/few centimeters of width to one's pedal stance? -Jim -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Crazy-priced Riv water bottles on ebay
Not sure I can justify drinking from my Riv bottles in this market... http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt t=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7ahttp://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7a But it was $100! Best, joe ships free, too! broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Crazy-priced Riv water bottles on ebay
Free shipping!!! On 11/6/13, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure I can justify drinking from my Riv bottles in this market... http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt t=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7ahttp://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7a But it was $100! Best, joe ships free, too! broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Crazy-priced Riv water bottles on ebay
I just checked the Wayback machine and the bottle was $4 in July, 2002. Even at $72 that's 18 times the price in just 11 years. Anyone want to buy my Quickbeam, another item now unavailable, for $28,800? I paid more than the original $1600 for mine as they had no complete builds when I got mine so you are actually going to be getting a great deal - after all it's newer than that water bottle. In fact, I'll tell you what...you buy it tonight and I'll knock off 28%, just like the bottle, and give it to you for $20,736 WITH FREE SHIPPING, even if you live in CONUS (I live in Hawaii but just this once I'll ship to CONUS). Aloha! Bob On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 6:06 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Free shipping!!! On 11/6/13, Joe Broach joebro...@gmail.com wrote: Not sure I can justify drinking from my Riv bottles in this market... http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt t=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7a http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7a But it was $100! Best, joe ships free, too! broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Robert Harrison Honolulu, HI rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Catalogue
Steep descents in downpours with heavy loads and cross- traffic day after day? Foul enough, go for the disc. I say, maybe not poetry, but put'n near. Tony -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Crazy-priced Riv water bottles on ebay
HA! I have that bottle. Y'all can have it for 50 bucks. Shipped! :) On Wednesday, November 6, 2013 9:59:37 PM UTC-8, joe b. wrote: Not sure I can justify drinking from my Riv bottles in this market... http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt t=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7ahttp://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-LARGE-GREEN-/271314267002?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972b7a But it was $100! Best, joe ships free, too! broach portland, or -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell BBH visit
Patrick: If you use twin-blade cartridges instead of disposable razors, you'll toss less plastic into your local landfill. No big deal maybe, but it's a thought. (I used disposable razors until I discovered that shave club that I mentioned, but won't mention again lest I sound like a shill!) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
