[RBW] Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Starting a new thread to discuss the Riv/country bike rally to be held in the 
Twin Cities September 26-28, 2014.

I envision everybody coming in to town on Friday the 26th for a meet-and-greet 
at Hiawatha Cyclery, then spending the next two days riding around the twin 
cities. Hiawatha Cyclery, which is in south Minneapolis near the airport and 
light rail line, will be the center of the action. That's the extent of the 
itinerary at this point.

If you're coming from out of town, I'd be happy to receive your bike and ship 
it back to you (I only use UPS). Depending on my level of involvement, I may 
charge you for assembly/disassembly/packing labor, and UPS shipping charges. No 
charge if you just use HC as a drop-off and pick-up point for your bike, and 
you arrange your own shipping.

You're on your own for lodging, but I'd be happy to offer opinions on whether 
your lodging choice is sensible in terms of distance, bike friendliness, etc. I 
am tentatively planning to offer camping in my back yard. I hope other local 
Riv types will offer spare beds, couches, floors, backyards, and other forms of 
hospitality to our visitors.

I am happy to answer your questions. Please keep in mind that we have 8 months 
to nail down the details (and 8 months for plans to change). If you're 
enthusiastic now in January, please try to pace yourself so you still have some 
enthusiasm left in September. There's a significant risk of over-committing to 
summer plans during this gloomy time of year. Past experience suggests that if 
you and I spend several hours emailing back and forth, answering every question 
you can think of in January, there's an approximately 0% chance of you being 
able to make the trip in September. If you think you're actually going to come, 
then please ask your questions. If you're on the fence - that's cool, you have 
plenty of time to decide - please keep the correspondence to a minimum until 
you're more committed to coming.

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[RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-01-14 Thread hsmitham
Jim, 

Great may I suggest http://doodle.com/?locale=en for the voting of date. 
Easy to set up and keeps everything simple to tally.

~Hugh Hoping for the 12th Smitham

On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

 I apparently volunteered in the Jamboree thread to start organizing so I'm 
 starting this new thread. 

 Question 1: When? The date in the poll was 7/19, but I've heard requests 
 for 7/12 and 7/26. Send me your vote please or do a poll.

 Question 2: Can you volunteer some time to help move this along? 
 Volunteers could meet and hash out details, or we can try to coordinate by 
 e-mail. Let me know your preference.

 Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?

 Tentative itinerary: China Camp and various meanderings around Marin; trip 
 to RBW and possibly the largest ever Diablo S24O; bbq at Grant's house 
 (just kidding on that one).


 happy trails,
 jim m
 wc ca

 P.S. Revered listmaster Cyclofiend, please pin near the top. Thanks


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[RBW] 54 Ram on Clist in SF

2014-01-14 Thread Michael
Just my size, too.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/4273269448.html

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[RBW] Re: Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-14 Thread Tom Goodmann
At this early point, then, Jim, a simple Thanks! for putting the idea out 
there.  Momentum will build, no doubt.  Tom (Miami, for which you don't 
want to know the forecast today)

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:00:20 AM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
wrote:

 Starting a new thread to discuss the Riv/country bike rally to be held in 
 the Twin Cities September 26-28, 2014.

 I envision everybody coming in to town on Friday the 26th for a 
 meet-and-greet at Hiawatha Cyclery, then spending the next two days riding 
 around the twin cities. Hiawatha Cyclery, which is in south Minneapolis 
 near the airport and light rail line, will be the center of the action. 
 That's the extent of the itinerary at this point.

 If you're coming from out of town, I'd be happy to receive your bike and 
 ship it back to you (I only use UPS). Depending on my level of involvement, 
 I may charge you for assembly/disassembly/packing labor, and UPS shipping 
 charges. No charge if you just use HC as a drop-off and pick-up point for 
 your bike, and you arrange your own shipping.

 You're on your own for lodging, but I'd be happy to offer opinions on 
 whether your lodging choice is sensible in terms of distance, bike 
 friendliness, etc. I am tentatively planning to offer camping in my back 
 yard. I hope other local Riv types will offer spare beds, couches, floors, 
 backyards, and other forms of hospitality to our visitors.

 I am happy to answer your questions. Please keep in mind that we have 8 
 months to nail down the details (and 8 months for plans to change). If 
 you're enthusiastic now in January, please try to pace yourself so you 
 still have some enthusiasm left in September. There's a significant risk of 
 over-committing to summer plans during this gloomy time of year. Past 
 experience suggests that if you and I spend several hours emailing back and 
 forth, answering every question you can think of in January, there's an 
 approximately 0% chance of you being able to make the trip in September. If 
 you think you're actually going to come, then please ask your questions. If 
 you're on the fence - that's cool, you have plenty of time to decide - 
 please keep the correspondence to a minimum until you're more committed to 
 coming.



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[RBW] Monsieur Bleriot Flies Again!

2014-01-14 Thread Eric Norris
Thought the group might enjoy this latest addition to my Bike Room:

http://flic.kr/p/jcVhUQ 

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Re: [RBW] Monsieur Bleriot Flies Again!

2014-01-14 Thread Christopher Chen
Classy!


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

 Thought the group might enjoy this latest addition to my Bike Room:

 http://flic.kr/p/jcVhUQ

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 Email: campyonly...@me.com
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 Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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[RBW] Re: Betty Arrived today

2014-01-14 Thread Michael Hechmer
Right, 
I didn't choose it.  It choose me.  The furnace is or was on life support. 
Fortunately our wood stove is capable of heating the whole house.  Heat 
pumps make sense as auxiliary, especially where you run both heat and air 
conditioning, which I don't.  However I'm looking at preheating with a 
solar system.  

I enjoyed putting the bike together last night.  Rack and fenders to 
complete the job

I'm not concerned about the Sequoia.  My grandson will grow into it 
eventually.

Michael
On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:31:46 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Replacing the forced air heating isn't something I'd think of doing in the 
 winter...unless the old one is kaput! Also wouldn't some form of heat pump 
 be a good way to go in your region? 

 Congrats on the Betty. The wife will probably gravitate to the Betty and 
 the Sequoia will be back on the list. I love receiving a new bike and then 
 assembling it, enjoy the build and then the wife's grin while she rides it.

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:36:32 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 A big surprise for my wife.  After the wows subsided the first thing she 
 said was, Can I still keep the Sequoia?  Apparently it's a good thing I 
 didn't sell it!  

 I'd put her together but right now I am pulling apart our hot air heating 
 system and preparing to install radiant floor heat, which is not a job to 
 linger over in a Vermont January.

 Michael



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Re: [RBW] Re: Betty Arrived today

2014-01-14 Thread Hugh Smitham
Michael,

That's a great idea to have the sequoia pass down to another generation. My
next home project will be to fully insulate our walls...back in the fifties
they figured California homes didn't need insulation lathe  plaster. So
I'll do the spray in variety. The list is long but it's fun too.

~Hugh

Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving. -- Albert Einstein

http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/




On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 Right,
 I didn't choose it.  It choose me.  The furnace is or was on life support.
 Fortunately our wood stove is capable of heating the whole house.  Heat
 pumps make sense as auxiliary, especially where you run both heat and air
 conditioning, which I don't.  However I'm looking at preheating with a
 solar system.

 I enjoyed putting the bike together last night.  Rack and fenders to
 complete the job

 I'm not concerned about the Sequoia.  My grandson will grow into it
 eventually.

 Michael

 On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 2:31:46 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:

 Replacing the forced air heating isn't something I'd think of doing in
 the winter...unless the old one is kaput! Also wouldn't some form of heat
 pump be a good way to go in your region?

 Congrats on the Betty. The wife will probably gravitate to the Betty and
 the Sequoia will be back on the list. I love receiving a new bike and then
 assembling it, enjoy the build and then the wife's grin while she rides it.

 ~Hugh

 On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:36:32 AM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 A big surprise for my wife.  After the wows subsided the first thing she
 said was, Can I still keep the Sequoia?  Apparently it's a good thing I
 didn't sell it!

 I'd put her together but right now I am pulling apart our hot air
 heating system and preparing to install radiant floor heat, which is not a
 job to linger over in a Vermont January.

 Michael

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[RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-01-14 Thread Shawn Granton
On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

 Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?


An African or European swallow? 

-Shawn

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[RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?

2014-01-14 Thread BSWP
Thanks for the very thorough review. I'm tempted by the Cambium, primarily 
by the ability to get the seat further back than on a B-17.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-8, dailyrandonneur wrote:

 I had a C17 loaner out on my SimpleOne last month and wrote about it. It 
 feels pretty similar to a B17 to me. 


 http://thedailyrandonneur.wordpress.com/2013/12/29/brooks-cambium-c17-saddle-a-real-brooks/

 Ed 
 Washington, DC

 On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:39:10 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote:

 Hey group,  just wanted to know if anyone on the list has tried out the 
 Brooks Cambium/ C17? and how it might compare to a standard B17 in comfort. 
   I know that its a little narrower(~10mm),  but just wanted to get an idea 
 of how the material feels when youre on it!thanks   -Mike



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[RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?

2014-01-14 Thread jinxed
The Cambium will be my next saddle for sure. Depending on how it feels, it 
could possibly replace my Professional. Generally being a B-17 guy, the Pro 
sits on the fence. I'm sort of waiting to see one in person before finding 
one.

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[RBW] Sunday Sunol, Pleasanton Ridge, Abandoned Ranch Home c

2014-01-14 Thread Christopher Chen
I had to take a trip down to the Bay Area for family. Upon arriving at the
airport in San Francisco last Thursday (and waiting on the tarmac because
our gate was occupied), I saw that Manny had proposed a ride for Sunday. So
why the hell not.

4 hours or so, leaving Fremont BART, through Niles Canyon (alongside the
railway I used to maintain track on), into Sunol (Mayor Bosco), up along
Pleasanton Ridge, down through the canyons, up again to a beautiful vista
of the whole enchilada.

Manny has some great shots on his photostream. I took a few as well.

Lots of fire road action, singletrack, dry gravel, soft dirt.

Pictures prove the terrain was mixed!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157639771156085/

cc

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[RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?

2014-01-14 Thread Matthew J
Cambium development to report.

Brooks sent me an e-mail suggesting I apply to test a prototype cut out 
version of the Cambium.  I am happy with the regular Cambium nor have I 
ever used any sort of cut out saddle.  As such, I don't think I would be a 
very good test subject.

It is good to see Brooks continuing to build the product line though. 
 Suggests the saddle will be around for a long time.

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:26:03 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:

 The Cambium will be my next saddle for sure. Depending on how it feels, it 
 could possibly replace my Professional. Generally being a B-17 guy, the Pro 
 sits on the fence. I'm sort of waiting to see one in person before finding 
 one.


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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-01-14 Thread Joe Bunik
On 1/14/14, Shawn Granton urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Monday, January 13, 2014 9:37:18 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

 Question 3: What is the wing speed of a swallow?


 An African or European swallow?

 -Shawn

Brooks
=- Joe

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone on the list try the Brooks Cambium (C17)?

2014-01-14 Thread Robert F. Harrison
I signed up, again, for the cut-out Cambium. I doubt I'll be chosen as I
did get to test the original. However I'm thinking it may be just a bit
'springier' (a high technical saddle term) and thus mimic a more broken in
leather saddle a wee bit better. That would sell me on using it full time
on at least one of my bikes. We'll see.

Aloha,

Bob (who liked the C-17 but not quite as much as his B-17's).


On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Matthew J matthewj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Cambium development to report.

 Brooks sent me an e-mail suggesting I apply to test a prototype cut out
 version of the Cambium.  I am happy with the regular Cambium nor have I
 ever used any sort of cut out saddle.  As such, I don't think I would be a
 very good test subject.

 It is good to see Brooks continuing to build the product line though.
  Suggests the saddle will be around for a long time.


 On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:26:03 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote:

 The Cambium will be my next saddle for sure. Depending on how it feels,
 it could possibly replace my Professional. Generally being a B-17 guy, the
 Pro sits on the fence. I'm sort of waiting to see one in person before
 finding one.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell SimpleBeam - New Model - Call for the Seriously Interested

2014-01-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
Do you have a current snapshot of the length of the list?  Grant asked for 
30 people to PM Jim and commit to him that they'll buy a $1200 frameset. 
 Do you have 30, Jim?  Do you have 10?  Where does this stand right now?

On Monday, November 25, 2013 8:17:03 AM UTC-8, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:

 In a separate thread, I seem to have been volunteered to collect names of 
 those seriously interested in a next generation SimpleOne / Quickbeam.

 The thread can be found here:
 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/QhzO4CFyz1U

 Please take a moment to read it all the way through.  Thanks!

 Ok... Welcome back!

 here's what Grant posted:

 On Sunday, November 24, 2013 9:53:57 PM UTC-8, grant wrote:

 Nothing's ever for sure gone for good, but here's the thing with the 
 SimpleBeams (forgive the gross generalizations used to make the point 
 without accounting for exceptions. I will use everybody not in the 
 literal sense):

 Everybody moans the loss of a bike they didn't buy when it was availabe. 
 The SB was always the slowest seller of all time, which in itself isn't the 
 end of the world, but what it means for us is---it was a cash flow killer. 
 We pay fully for 100 of them about two months before they arrive. Then it 
 takes a year and a half or two years to sell them. 
 One thing that seems to happen is--when something's readily available, 
 it's meh...and when it's gone, the heart grows fonder genuinely--and maybe 
 people who would have been buyers when the bike was around have just 
 learned about it and think hey I'd like that. But there is a small tendency 
 to overenthuse about what can't be had. I do it myself with other things in 
 my life. 
 *Dang, they quit making that __ I've hemmed and hawed about and 
 admired for years, but never wanted enough to buy, but now that I can't buy 
 it, shoot!*I don't mean that's rampant here, and I DO like that the 
 bikes are so well-liked. Me too. I sold my QB when I needed money, figured 
 I could always get a SO, and now they're gone and I want one more than 
 ever. So---I'm not just an observer of this phenomenon, but a participant!
 If we could pre-sell 30 of them. Paid two-months before they arrive 
 (that's when our payment is due), I'd stick my neck out and order 100. This 
 time they'd be slightly different, and the danger of this hypothetical 
 scenario is that it would open a debate about what's the difference between 
 the new and old, which is preferable, then a vote, and it all gets weird 
 and half the people who expressed willingness to get a new one now feel 
 dis-listened to and bummed because it didn't go that way.
 So...i'd be innerested only if I had free secret rein to tweak it 
 this way and that, still resulting in a killer one-speed, but not a clone 
 of the SO, which was a clone of the QB. It might be any color, any name, 
 any kind of break, any anything. I totally get that ordering semi-blind 
 isn't easy to do. The unblind part of the semi is: Track or horizontal 
 dropouts angled to allow pad contact over a wide range of chainlengths, 
 like QB/SO. Two bottle mounts, rackable. good clearance. Basically Sam-like 
 with diff dropouts. Probably sidepulls but could be cantis. A perfectly 
 good color, a good name, a nice badge, a really great singler.

 Serious agreers will PM cyclofiend (Jim! So sorryplease forgive 
 me...but these  months I have so many kaleidiscopes in my head that I can't 
 have another one), and if the list reaches 30 (meaning you'll have $1200  
 by Dec 2014 for the frame/fork/headset, and the money won't evaporate in a 
 divorce or unforseeable crisis), then we'll get some good frames.

 I have a full plate and I know it seems so bad to say I can't answer 
 questions about this, but for the next few months I probably can't. You can 
 try, and I'll try, but I'm at my  physicalemotional limit, and ... can't 
 promise. If you send a postcard, I'll respond with a postcard.

 Is this all too much? Probably. Sorry again. 

 If nothing happens now, I think the bike will happen again later, but it 
 may be an extra year or two.

 I know there are lots of options out there. I'm not trying to make this a 
 difficult mystery bike. My crazy proposal..is the only way that makes 
 sense for us right now. 

 Thanks..

 Grant



 So - what happens next?

 I'll compile a list of takers/wanters/those-who-will-in-fact-pony-up.

 IF YOU ARE INTERESTED AND CAN COMMIT IN THE MANNER GRANT PROPOSED - 

 Please do this:

 Email: cyclo...@gmail.com javascript:

 Use a Subject Line: SimpleBeam Order

 Include your name, email and a simple statement of desire to be in the 
 queue. State frame size, quantity.  

 DO NOT GIVE any payment information - I cannot  be responsible for your 
 payment security (and you should never, ever put that in an email anyway...)

 Please note - I do not work for Rivendell Bicycle Works.  I am wrangling 
 this just to keep one iron in a separate fire for GP.  I'll keep you 

[RBW] Re: Sunday Sunol, Pleasanton Ridge, Abandoned Ranch Home c

2014-01-14 Thread Manuel Acosta
Thanks Chris for the write up. 

I'll add my two cents.
My buddy Jensen was around from NYC and wanted to get a ride going. 
I knew he was either on his road bike or track bike but he was down for 
anything. 
Wrong idea if you tell me that. I took him on the most roadieish ride I 
could have think of. 
Which isn't very roadieish. But what the hell he said he was down. 

Had a blast. Glad to see everyone. 

Pictures proved that 23mm tires are okay for single track:
http://flic.kr/s/aHsjQztbkM

Manny Road bikes can be dirt bikes too! Acosta



On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:55:59 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I had to take a trip down to the Bay Area for family. Upon arriving at the 
 airport in San Francisco last Thursday (and waiting on the tarmac because 
 our gate was occupied), I saw that Manny had proposed a ride for Sunday. So 
 why the hell not.

 4 hours or so, leaving Fremont BART, through Niles Canyon (alongside the 
 railway I used to maintain track on), into Sunol (Mayor Bosco), up along 
 Pleasanton Ridge, down through the canyons, up again to a beautiful vista 
 of the whole enchilada.

 Manny has some great shots on his photostream. I took a few as well.

 Lots of fire road action, singletrack, dry gravel, soft dirt.

 Pictures prove the terrain was mixed!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157639771156085/

 cc

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-01-14 Thread Manuel Acosta


 I down for whatever. I wouldn't mine leading a ride from either location 
 or even both. Diablo or China Camp.  


-Manny Acosta 

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 20th Anniversary Gathering and Entmoot -- SF Bay edition

2014-01-14 Thread justinaugust
Let's see:
My plan is to be in transit moving to Oakland from Philly around Mid July to 
Mid August so I guess this is perftypical. 

;)
-J

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[RBW] Poll for SF Bay Area National Gathering Date

2014-01-14 Thread Jim Mather
Here's a little poll so we can settle the date for the gathering:
http://doodle.com/f9aztytidfibbtam

Choose one or more, please, and we'll go with the one that gets the most.

Thanks
jim m
wc ca

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[RBW] Re: 52cm Wilbury on CL

2014-01-14 Thread Rocky B
Darn.  Wished it was a 56cm.  

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[RBW] Re: Sunday Sunol, Pleasanton Ridge, Abandoned Ranch Home c

2014-01-14 Thread Bill Lindsay
That abandoned house is so freaky.  Imagine all the birdpoop you've seen in 
your life collected in one sink.  Yuck!  But there's still a piano in 
there!  I'm lucky I didn't fall through the floor.  

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 10:55:59 AM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I had to take a trip down to the Bay Area for family. Upon arriving at the 
 airport in San Francisco last Thursday (and waiting on the tarmac because 
 our gate was occupied), I saw that Manny had proposed a ride for Sunday. So 
 why the hell not.

 4 hours or so, leaving Fremont BART, through Niles Canyon (alongside the 
 railway I used to maintain track on), into Sunol (Mayor Bosco), up along 
 Pleasanton Ridge, down through the canyons, up again to a beautiful vista 
 of the whole enchilada.

 Manny has some great shots on his photostream. I took a few as well.

 Lots of fire road action, singletrack, dry gravel, soft dirt.

 Pictures prove the terrain was mixed!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157639771156085/

 cc

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[RBW] Re: FS: Wheel-Building: Stand, Tensionometer, Wrench, Dishing Guage, Jobst Book

2014-01-14 Thread Leslie
Where were you a year ago?!

That's a really good package deal.Someone would be off to a great start 
there.   

I have that same stand; it's the 'standard'.   There are a couple that 
might nicer, but at a far greater cost... there are some that are less 
expensive, but not as good.
Almost any bike shop you go into, is using that stand.  (Maybe not wheel 
specialists; Rich uses a DT Swiss, which is great, but, is six or seven 
times as much... and a PK is even more).

Good luck w/ your sale...  this'd be a great set.

-L


(PS: if you end up splitting the package up, I might be interested in a 
piece or two, but I don't need the whole shebang...)



On Sunday, January 12, 2014 4:04:11 PM UTC-5, Adam DeFayette wrote:

 Curious about wheelbuilding? Here's everything you need to get started 
 (without breaking the bank):

 Everything is in like-new condition. Pictures here: 
 https://plus.google.com/photos/101616295581563373309/albums/5968112660897526625?authkey=CMik38HQk63_3wE

 Park Tool TS-2 professional truing stand, Park Tool tensionometer, Park 
 Tool multi-spoke wrench, and Park Tool wheel dishing guage.

 I'm also including Jobst Brandt's classic book: The Bicycle Wheel, 3rd 
 Edition.

 $250, OBO, shipped in the CONUS. 

 Thank you,

 Adam


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[RBW] Re: Can I still order a Betty Foy from Riv?!

2014-01-14 Thread Eric
Just called...they said no more 50cm Betty Foys. Shame, shame! 

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[RBW] Re: Sew own frame bags?

2014-01-14 Thread JAGI410
I made mine using X-PAC from rockywoods.com, 1/4 closed cell foam from eBay, 
and cheap remnant ripstop from Joann's. 3 wide, no flare at front. The ripstop 
formed a liner around the inner perimeter, and the foam was sandwiched in 
between. The foam is important as it keeps things from rattling against the top 
of the downtube, and provides nice structure. I also sewed a false floor in the 
bottom triangle that separates in the middle. You can expand or contract the 
sides of the bag with this. Enjoy the Krampus and post pics when the bag is 
done!

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Re: [650B] Re: [RBW] Re: Schwalbe 650B/27.5 Thunder Burt Review

2014-01-14 Thread Mike Schiller
My custom  http://www.flickr.com/photos/37347002@N05/9720289102/  will fit 
a 50 mm tire with fenders.  That's good enough for me.  The rSogn looks a 
little funny with hetres and no fenders I think. I used a PBP crown which 
is about 62 mm wide where the tire max width is.

~mike

On Monday, January 13, 2014 11:03:17 AM UTC-8, Eric Stocker wrote:

 Sounds like you need a Rawland Sogn so you can fit 2.1s + fenders :)


  

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[RBW] Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-14 Thread Conway Bennett
Captain Conway here in Chicago.  I'm definitely interested in a late summer 
rally in the cities.  I would hope that there are some other folks in Chi that 
would be interested in making the drive out there.  It would definitely beat 
disassembling, packing, shipping, assembling and paying for the experience of 
shipping or checking a bike.

- Fair winds

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[RBW] Re: 52cm Wilbury on CL

2014-01-14 Thread grrlyrida
That is a beautiful bike. The intricate lugs, the paint job--just gorgeous!

On Monday, January 13, 2014 6:48:35 PM UTC-8, Mattt wrote:



 I saw this Willbury on Craigslist.  Beautiful lugs.  I wanted to let the 
 group know because you don't see many around for sale.

 http://westernmass.craigslist.org/bik/4264764890.html



 Matt


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Re: [RBW] Sew own frame bags?

2014-01-14 Thread Pam Ellen Hudson
I really have enjoyed following the Colette Patterns blog, and Sarai has a 
wonderful
post on materials for her cooper bag and how to source resources here (great 
tips on waxed canvas)

http://www.coletterie.com/sewalongs/bag-making-supplies-and-resources

Also, she has tutorials on how to sew with waxed canvas, etc.   I know other 
sewer/biker bloggers but I find Colette's resources
on her bag really really easy to follow.  She lives in Portland so she's in a 
good area for it. 


On Jan 13, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote:

 Note that Revelate, and others, use the Denier Diamond Ripstop for the
 panels of the frame pack (the big pieces), but they use something a
 lot tougher for the gussets (the side pieces that go along the tubes
 of the frame). Ripstop is not so abrasion resistant, and those gussets
 are rubbing against the frame with every turn of the wheels. I was
 just at my LBS to drop off my touring bike because, umm, ding in the
 rim -- yes, that's why I want bigger tires, so I can ride without
 getting dings-- and I was able to get a good look at a Revelate Tangle
 pack and a Revelate Viscacha seat bag.
 
 On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 1:26 PM, sameness samen...@gmail.com wrote:
 As a fellow sewer who has admittedly never made a bag from scratch (though I
 do love taking them apart and altering them), might I suggest the Denier
 Diamond Ripstop from Seattle Fabrics?
 
 Ripstop will give you the strength without the weight penalty of a thick
 coated Cordura, and with the benefit of being easier to sew, i.e. you can
 get away with using a 14.
 
 Or if you're after a lighter, laminated material, here's Dimension-Polyant
 21, which is what Revelate uses for their frame bags.
 
 Jeff Hagedorn
 Warragul, VIC Australia
 
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[RBW] Bar end Silver Shifters + Campy 9 Speed drivetrain

2014-01-14 Thread Jayme Frye
I'm looking at repurposing a 9 speed Campy Veloce long cage rear der and 
Campy cassette on a build using bar end Silver Shifters. Anyone have 
experience with a similar setup? How well does this shift? Any gotchas I 
should lookout for?
Thanks

Jayme Frye
 

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Re: [RBW] Bar end Silver Shifters + Campy 9 Speed drivetrain

2014-01-14 Thread Bruce Herbitter
I use Silver shifters on my Riv Road and it has a long cage Veloce 9s. 
It works perfectly.  In friction, it handles 7 and 8 speeds just fine also.



On 1/14/2014 11:04 AM, Jayme Frye wrote:
I'm looking at repurposing a 9 speed Campy Veloce long cage rear der 
and Campy cassette on a build using bar end Silver Shifters. Anyone 
have experience with a similar setup? How well does this shift? Any 
gotchas I should lookout for?

Thanks

Jayme Frye
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Re: [RBW] Monsieur Bleriot Flies Again!

2014-01-14 Thread Joan Oppel
That is so cool!JoanDecember 2006 BleriotOn 01/14/14, Eric Norriscampyonly...@me.com wrote:Thought the group might enjoy this latest addition to my Bike Room:http://flic.kr/p/jcVhUQ --Eric NorrisEmail: campyonly...@me.comWeb: www.campyonly.comBlog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.comTwitter: @CampyOnlyGuyFlickr: www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy-- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.



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[RBW] Re: 52cm Wilbury on CL

2014-01-14 Thread Joe Bernard
My size, but fortunately for my wallet, not the right color (or driving 
distance). My daughter and I took turns riding the red demo at RBW World 
Headquarters back in the day, and oh how I wish I'd had the dollars back 
then to take it home. Those lugs!
 
Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 4:34:36 PM UTC-8, Rocky B wrote:

 Darn.  Wished it was a 56cm.  


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Re: [RBW] Bar end Silver Shifters + Campy 9 Speed drivetrain

2014-01-14 Thread Eric Norris
Same here. Silver downtube shifters with a long cage Campy derailleur ... works 
perfectly.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I use Silver shifters on my Riv Road and it has a long cage Veloce 9s. It 
 works perfectly.  In friction, it handles 7 and 8 speeds just fine also.
 
 
 On 1/14/2014 11:04 AM, Jayme Frye wrote:
 I'm looking at repurposing a 9 speed Campy Veloce long cage rear der and 
 Campy cassette on a build using bar end Silver Shifters. Anyone have 
 experience with a similar setup? How well does this shift? Any gotchas I 
 should lookout for?
 Thanks
 
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Re: [RBW] Bar end Silver Shifters + Campy 9 Speed drivetrain

2014-01-14 Thread reynoldslugs
Dittox3.

I use this set up on at least three bikes, they all shift just dandy.

Rivendell Road Standard with this set up:   

  http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157625808579123/

and a Richard Sachs:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157635034237136/

works great.  You'll enjoy the setup.

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[RBW] Re: Sunday Sunol, Pleasanton Ridge, Abandoned Ranch Home c

2014-01-14 Thread Ron Mc
looks like a great ride - gorgeous sky and great photos

On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 12:55:59 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I had to take a trip down to the Bay Area for family. Upon arriving at the 
 airport in San Francisco last Thursday (and waiting on the tarmac because 
 our gate was occupied), I saw that Manny had proposed a ride for Sunday. So 
 why the hell not.

 4 hours or so, leaving Fremont BART, through Niles Canyon (alongside the 
 railway I used to maintain track on), into Sunol (Mayor Bosco), up along 
 Pleasanton Ridge, down through the canyons, up again to a beautiful vista 
 of the whole enchilada.

 Manny has some great shots on his photostream. I took a few as well.

 Lots of fire road action, singletrack, dry gravel, soft dirt.

 Pictures prove the terrain was mixed!

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157639771156085/

 cc

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Re: [RBW] Bar end Silver Shifters + Campy 9 Speed drivetrain

2014-01-14 Thread reynoldslugs
Hmmm, Eric... Davis... Campy.  Could be.  Here's the DNA test: did you ever buy 
a Trek from Dave Peterson at the old Davis Wheelworks?  

Go Ags!

Max B

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[RBW] Minneapolis country bike rally

2014-01-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Amtrak is a great way to travel to Minneapolis from Chicago with a bike.

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[RBW] Re: Bar end Silver Shifters + Campy 9 Speed drivetrain

2014-01-14 Thread Coconutbill
my Homer is equipped with campy mirage up front, works great! 

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[RBW] Bar end Silver Shifters + Campy 9 Speed drivetrain

2014-01-14 Thread RoadieRyan
I was going to say if your using friction it shouldn't matter but all these 
wise folks with you exact set up already chimed in

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