[RBW] Re: FS: Rare and out of production R-14 tombstone

[Coconutbill]

I would be interested in it... possible to turn into a saddle grip?

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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Michael]

>
> Chain-L No.5 is a petroleum based lube. It smells kind of like motor oil 
> to me. Its not overpowering. You can just smell it while standing near the 
> bike while in the garage. Not while riding, of course.
>
 

> Chanel No.5, on the other hand can probably be scent-sampled at any local 
> department store. :)
>

I really, really like the fact that I can go for so long without re-lubing.

I live in Maryland, which is *not* a dusty, dry place. Green. Rains about 
once a week in Spring, Summer, and Fall. Sometimes more, sometimes less.

I hear the lube you should use depends on where you live. Like dry lube for 
dusty zones, and wet lube for wet zones, or something like that. I can't 
remember exactly.

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Re: [RBW] Best chain lube - ever

[James Valiensi]

Hi,
I've used it for 1000's of miles and I know others that swear by it. I put a 
drop on each link and spin the cranks a while, and then wipe off the excess. No 
build up of gunk.

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:17 PM, Peter Morgano  wrote:
> 
> Hmmm, I have bar and chain lube. stuff is crazy thick, you sure without the 
> heat of the saw it wont just gunk up?
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:01 PM, James Valiensi  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> For a long lasting lube that makes your drive train quieter try "bar and 
>> chain" oil. It is for chainsaws and won't fly off the chain. You can get a 
>> quart for under $10 and it will probably last you a 100,000 miles.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: [RBW] Best chain lube - ever

[Peter Morgano]

Hmmm, I have bar and chain lube. stuff is crazy thick, you sure without the
heat of the saw it wont just gunk up?


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> Hi,
> For a long lasting lube that makes your drive train quieter try "bar and
> chain" oil. It is for chainsaws and won't fly off the chain. You can get a
> quart for under $10 and it will probably last you a 100,000 miles.
>
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[RBW] Best chain lube - ever

[James Valiensi]

Hi,
For a long lasting lube that makes your drive train quieter try "bar and chain" 
oil. It is for chainsaws and won't fly off the chain. You can get a quart for 
under $10 and it will probably last you a 100,000 miles.

Sent from my iPad

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[RBW] Re: fs: TWO pairs of 650b tires!!!

[Eric]

Did I say 90?! 

I meant $80 shipped! 

On Saturday, April 12, 2014 9:14:42 PM UTC-5, Eric wrote:
>
> Okay so the quest for the "perfect" 650b tire for my Saluki has led me 
> down a long & expensive path. So in order to raise money for my next pair 
> of tires I'd like to sell this gaggle!
>
> I have two (2) pairs of 650b tires that I would like to sell as a lot. 
>
> Here's the rundown:
>
> 1) Schwalbe Marathon GreenGuard HS420 - 650bx42 - Lightly used but in 
> AMAZING condition! 
> 2) NiftySwifty Wire 650B x 33.5 - Just bought them & rode them around the 
> block!
>
> One pair is too narror for my tastes, the other is too "ballon-ish" for my 
> tastes. $100 shipped. Photos upon request
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Jim Bronson]

I'm pretty intrigued by chain lube with a distinctive smell as it's calling
card.  I generally smell all the motor oils that I put in the household
cars and I can tell various motor oils by their smell.  I think Mobil 1
smells the best of all oils I have used, with Mobil Super 5000 a close 2nd.

Now gear oil, that stuff stinks like sulfur.  Most cars nowadays don't have
pumpkins like the old rear drivers though, so it's usually the "transaxle"
you are filling with ATF.  But anyway I digress.

I need a sample of Chain-L to smell.  I am curious.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Brian Campbell wrote:

> For winter/wet weather riding, I mix automatic transmission fluid and
> 10w30 in an old Tupperware container and immerse the chain for a minute or
> so and agitate. I then hang the chain over the container and let it drain
> completely back into the container and wipe off any excess. Sure it gets
> dirty but I have not found it to get any more dirty than expensive lubes
> and it lasts as long or longer. Why spend all the extra cash?
>
> I use regular old Tri-Flo for everyday riding. Environmental aspects
> aside, there is a high degree of snake oil (pun intended) being sold, when
> it comes to lubes.
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[RBW] Re: Chincoteague NWR

[grrlyrida]

What beautiful pics. I remember reading those books in elementary schools. 
I loved them. And to be able to ride your bike around those islands, 
priceless.

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>
> We finally got out of snowy and now muddy Vt. (we live 3 miles down a dirt 
> road) to kick off the cycling season in Virginia.  Yesterday was sunny with 
> temps in the upper 50s.  We got in 25-30 miles of liesurly peddling around 
> Assateague and Chincoteague Islands.   Here's a few pictures.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/13701193315/in/set-72157643603765673/
>
> The reserve is really well managed and in addition to the famous herd of 
> wild ponies there's a great variety of water birds..  Beautiful sea shore, 
> but much too windy to enjoy sitting around.  Wetlands and woodlands.
>
> Michael
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[RBW] Re: From the Mountains to the Sea with A. Homer Hilsen.

[Deacon Patrick]

I read your post earlier today and love it. It got me thinking about what I 
do when I'm cranking up a 10 mile hill. It's a great time for prayer and 
meditation for me, and I often pray the Rosary or the Jesus prayer and melt 
into the surrounding and the experience. I love all parts of the ride for 
the various experiences they offer, and once I figured out how to enter 
into the climbs that helped me love them -- very good thing given that 
time/mile is of course the highest on them! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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> A tale of two rides:
>
>
> http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/04/2014-april-200k-change-in-perspective.html
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Re: [RBW] Re: Mt. Brake levers on Mustache Bars?

[Ray Shine]

True. I was looking at the VO levers, and ordered a set anyway. I'll report. 
You make a good point. I had not considered that. Thank you.





>
> From: Dave Johnston 
>To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, April 14, 2014 5:27 PM
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Mt. Brake levers on Mustache Bars?
> 
>
>
>VO City Bike Brake Levers are available in both MTB (22.2mm) and road bar 
>(23.8mm) sizes. This style came on a used Nishiki Mixty I have and they have 
>really long levers so I'm not sure they would be that great on M bars which 
>has a pretty short grip area.
>
>The other option as mentioned is cross levers which have really short levers, 
>but generally don't take up much bar space.
>
>-Dave
>
>
>
>
>On Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:32:17 PM UTC-4, r.s...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>>Forgive me if this has been covered. Are there manufactured any  Mt. brake 
>>levers that can be used on mustache bars?  I do not like those reverse levers 
>>that mount into the bar ends, either.
>>
>>Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Brian Campbell]

For winter/wet weather riding, I mix automatic transmission fluid and 10w30 
in an old Tupperware container and immerse the chain for a minute or so and 
agitate. I then hang the chain over the container and let it drain 
completely back into the container and wipe off any excess. Sure it gets 
dirty but I have not found it to get any more dirty than expensive lubes 
and it lasts as long or longer. Why spend all the extra cash? 

I use regular old Tri-Flo for everyday riding. Environmental aspects aside, 
there is a high degree of snake oil (pun intended) being sold, when it 
comes to lubes. 

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[RBW] Re: Riding in a Winter Wonderland!

[Deacon Patrick]

Pikes Peak or Bust! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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>
> That is some beautiful country! What part of the world is it. And nice 
> facial snow!
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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Deacon Patrick]

I'm intrigued by Dumonde's Original and may try it first. It's the same 
concept as wax, but with a self-lubricating polymer as its base.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001EO19MY/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=LU7NJJJ1Q6U&coliid=I18KBXXNXGTA2F&psc=1

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Mt. Brake levers on Mustache Bars?

[Dave Johnston]

VO City Bike Brake Levers are available in both MTB (22.2mm) and road bar 
(23.8mm) sizes. This style came on a used Nishiki Mixty I have and they 
have really long levers so I'm not sure they would be that great on M bars 
which has a pretty short grip area.

The other option as mentioned is cross levers which have really short 
levers, but generally don't take up much bar space.

-Dave



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>
>
> Forgive me if this has been covered. Are there manufactured any  Mt. brake 
> levers that can be used on mustache bars?  I do not like those reverse 
> levers that mount into the bar ends, either.
>
> Thanks!
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26" Tire Suggestions?

[Dave Johnston]

I have the Kojacks 26x2.0" on my Atlantis and they are actually 44mm wide 
on 22.5mm rims. I have the Compass 26x1.75 on an XO-3 and they measure 43mm 
on 20mm rims.

The Compass tires feel noticeably faster to me but it might be the bike not 
the tires. Maybe the X0-3 planes? Both bikes have drops but the XO-3 is a 
bit sportier geometry and build overall.

-Dave J

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:36:21 AM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote:
>
> Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I decided on Schwalbe Kojaks which 
> should be ariving any day now. Once the build is entirely complete I'll 
> post some pics. Thank again!
>
>
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[RBW] From the Mountains to the Sea with A. Homer Hilsen.

[Iron Rider]

A tale of two rides:

http://eprider.blogspot.com/2014/04/2014-april-200k-change-in-perspective.html

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[RBW] Re: Riding in a Winter Wonderland!

[Iron Rider]

That is some beautiful country! What part of the world is it. And nice 
facial snow!

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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Deacon Patrick]

I don't/do follow you here, Garth because there are too few/many mixed 
messages. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 14, 2014 5:54:16 PM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
>
> I have some Chain-L to try, but man, the smell to me is anything but foul. 
> I'm not putting it on in my attached garage !   With a lingering odor like 
> that, and it's mystery ingredients too, I'm sure it's no more/less "toxic" 
> than others, as "toxic" is relative to the I of the beholder anyways !   
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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Garth]

I have some Chain-L to try, but man, the smell to me is anything but foul. 
I'm not putting it on in my attached garage !   With a lingering odor like 
that, and it's mystery ingredients too, I'm sure it's no more/less "toxic" 
than others, as "toxic" is relative to the I of the beholder anyways !   

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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Deacon Patrick]

I went back and looked at the various lubes I've tried and they are all 
variations on the "dry wax." So that path has been tried. The Chain-L looks 
well worth trying. So I will try the wet lube next and see how it goes. 
Given that Boeshield and White Lightening and the rest last me at most 10 
hours of riding, its time to move on. I suspect that even under ideal 
conditions, the steeper riding I do is rough on a lube, so wet that 
reapplies itself internally makes sense.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Michael]

>
> Chain-L is the longest lasting, and coolest smelling lube I have ever used.
>
You can smell it when you enter the garage for the next week after 
installing it on the chain.
Smells like engine oil.
 
I think I could could go for 1k at least without a relube if I remember 
right from my use. Rain or shine. Set it and forget it for the season.
But I ride roads, and don't get all muddy.

I am using Boeshield liquid now, but it doesn't last long at all from my 
experience. Maybe 200 miles tops for me if I am remembering right.
But I like it 'cuz it is purported to dry as a paraffin wax, for keeping 
cleaner. It also is supposed to flush out any other lube on the chain as it 
penetrates.
Very short lived though. But I like it a lot.

I may go back to Chain-L when I run outta Boeshield because I have a lot of 
Chain-L No.5 left. After that, I may decide to settle on one or t'other.

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[RBW] Re: Albastache conversion Complete!

[Deacon Patrick]

Ryan,

If I didn't have vertigo, yes, there are conditions I would switch back to 
the Albatross. They are an amazing bar for more upright riding. Unless 
something like back issues require me to have a more upright position (and 
since I floor live and have regular bone broth and an anti-inflammatory 
diet I am hopeful that is less likely), I do no see switching back. The 
vertigo is simply far less of a factor with the Albastache, with the bike 
and I moving as one in a way that did not happen with the Albatross.

Yes, that is Newbaum's orange.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 14, 2014 3:59:28 PM UTC-6, Ryan wrote:
>
> Love the orange bar tape and it's a nice complement to the frame's colour 
> scheme. I think you did a lovely job of wrapping them. Newbaum tape, did 
> you say? Great pictures, too, as usual. Do you think you would switch back 
> to the original Albas under some conditions?
>  
> Regards...Ryan in Winnipeg
> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:56:09 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
>> Thanks to you all, your knowledge, suggestions, and various parts the 
>> conversion to Albastache is complete! I got to do a few extra jobs beyond 
>> what I thought, but handled them all better than I would have thought 
>> because of the newly fortified Hobbit Hole/stow-away-workshop. 
>>
>> Thank you for all your help!
>>
>> Pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/13806244434/
>>  
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[WETH]

Chris,
I thoroughly enjoyed reading this and viewing your photos. Thanks a lot for 
sharing and for a bit of inspiration.
Safe cycling,
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Re: [RBW] FS: Rare and out of production R-14 tombstone

[Chris Chen]

Note that they're marks from a literally evil grip, not a vise grip.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Chris Chen  wrote:

> If we're playing this game I have some broken struts for a R-14 for sale,
> $16.99 plus British Columbia GST for the hell of it. Also included is some
> fender mud from an awesome ride. They have some nice vice grip marks on
> them.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Curtis McKenzie wrote:
>
>>
>> The best characteristic of the item is that it can fill so many needs for
>> so many individuals.
>>
>> On Monday, April 14, 2014, Peter Morgano  wrote:
>>
>>> I bet it's laterally stiff
>>> On Apr 14, 2014 6:00 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>>>
 Does it plane?

 On Monday, April 14, 2014 2:55:28 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:

> Here is your opportunity to own the now hard to acquire R-14
> tombstone. This item was expertly removed from the rack and is in like new
> condition. Asking only $12.42 which includes shipping and one meter of 
> duct
> tape for easy installation.
>
> Curtis "hacksaw"McKenzie
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Re: [RBW] FS: Rare and out of production R-14 tombstone

[Chris Chen]

If we're playing this game I have some broken struts for a R-14 for sale,
$16.99 plus British Columbia GST for the hell of it. Also included is some
fender mud from an awesome ride. They have some nice vice grip marks on
them.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Curtis McKenzie  wrote:

>
> The best characteristic of the item is that it can fill so many needs for
> so many individuals.
>
> On Monday, April 14, 2014, Peter Morgano  wrote:
>
>> I bet it's laterally stiff
>> On Apr 14, 2014 6:00 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:
>>
>>> Does it plane?
>>>
>>> On Monday, April 14, 2014 2:55:28 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>>>
 Here is your opportunity to own the now hard to acquire R-14 tombstone.
 This item was expertly removed from the rack and is in like new condition.
 Asking only $12.42 which includes shipping and one meter of duct tape for
 easy installation.

 Curtis "hacksaw"McKenzie

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Peter Morgano]

I use clean ride, and while I don't like working with something so toxic it
is the lowest maintenance lube I have found in the years of dirt riding.

On Apr 14, 2014 6:09 PM, "Garth"  wrote:
>
> Just thinkin' .  .  . . .
>
> I've used two wax based lubes, because cleaning chains is strongly not my
preference :)
>
> Squirt, which is not widely available, is by far the longest lasting. It
has no petroleum in it, it's water based and White . It does alight in the
rain as long as it's been applied recently.  It does tend to build up
though in the drivetrain and cogs, remove it with a screwdriver, lol.
Never have to clean the chain.  I put this one on hold.
>
> Then I tried White Lighting Clean Ride. A petro based wax lube.
Shockingly thin compared to Squirt, but it took me awhile to see this is
advantageous.  You have to apply it more frequently, but there is very
little build up, nothing like with Squirt. No dirt clings to it . Wipe the
chain after each ride. It's very easy to reapply, let it dry for at least a
few hours.  Pretty good in the rain too .
>
> I used to paraffin too long ago, but didn't enjoy the whole lengthy
process .  I want simple, minimal.  Clean Ride is just that.  I never have
to clean the chain, other than to remove the factory lube. EVER !  Ride ,
apply and wipe. Kind of like life .  . .  Eat , do and wipe !
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Re: [RBW] FS: Rare and out of production R-14 tombstone

[Curtis McKenzie]

The best characteristic of the item is that it can fill so many needs for
so many individuals.

On Monday, April 14, 2014, Peter Morgano  wrote:

> I bet it's laterally stiff
> On Apr 14, 2014 6:00 PM, "Joe Bernard" 
> >
> wrote:
>
>> Does it plane?
>>
>> On Monday, April 14, 2014 2:55:28 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>>
>>> Here is your opportunity to own the now hard to acquire R-14 tombstone.
>>> This item was expertly removed from the rack and is in like new condition.
>>> Asking only $12.42 which includes shipping and one meter of duct tape for
>>> easy installation.
>>>
>>> Curtis "hacksaw"McKenzie
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rare and out of production R-14 tombstone

[Peter Morgano]

I bet it's laterally stiff
On Apr 14, 2014 6:00 PM, "Joe Bernard"  wrote:

> Does it plane?
>
> On Monday, April 14, 2014 2:55:28 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>
>> Here is your opportunity to own the now hard to acquire R-14 tombstone.
>> This item was expertly removed from the rack and is in like new condition.
>> Asking only $12.42 which includes shipping and one meter of duct tape for
>> easy installation.
>>
>> Curtis "hacksaw"McKenzie
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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Garth]

Just thinkin' .  .  . . .

I've used two wax based lubes, because cleaning chains is strongly not my 
preference :)  

Squirt, which is not widely available, is by far the longest lasting. It 
has no petroleum in it, it's water based and White . It does alight in the 
rain as long as it's been applied recently.  It does tend to build up 
though in the drivetrain and cogs, remove it with a screwdriver, lol.  
Never have to clean the chain.  I put this one on hold. 

Then I tried White Lighting Clean Ride. A petro based wax lube. Shockingly 
thin compared to Squirt, but it took me awhile to see this is 
advantageous.  You have to apply it more frequently, but there is very 
little build up, nothing like with Squirt. No dirt clings to it . Wipe the 
chain after each ride. It's very easy to reapply, let it dry for at least a 
few hours.  Pretty good in the rain too . 

I used to paraffin too long ago, but didn't enjoy the whole lengthy process 
.  I want simple, minimal.  Clean Ride is just that.  I never have to clean 
the chain, other than to remove the factory lube. EVER !  Ride , apply and 
wipe. Kind of like life .  . .  Eat , do and wipe !   

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rare and out of production R-14 tombstone

[Joe Bernard]

Does it plane?

On Monday, April 14, 2014 2:55:28 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:

> Here is your opportunity to own the now hard to acquire R-14 tombstone. 
> This item was expertly removed from the rack and is in like new condition. 
> Asking only $12.42 which includes shipping and one meter of duct tape for 
> easy installation.  
>
> Curtis "hacksaw"McKenzie
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[RBW] Re: Albastache conversion Complete!

[Ryan]

Love the orange bar tape and it's a nice complement to the frame's colour 
scheme. I think you did a lovely job of wrapping them. Newbaum tape, did 
you say? Great pictures, too, as usual. Do you think you would switch back 
to the original Albas under some conditions?
 
Regards...Ryan in Winnipeg
On Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:56:09 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

> Thanks to you all, your knowledge, suggestions, and various parts the 
> conversion to Albastache is complete! I got to do a few extra jobs beyond 
> what I thought, but handled them all better than I would have thought 
> because of the newly fortified Hobbit Hole/stow-away-workshop. 
>
> Thank you for all your help!
>
> Pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/13806244434/
>  
> With abandon,
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>
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[RBW] FS: Rare and out of production R-14 tombstone

[Curtis]

Here is your opportunity to own the now hard to acquire R-14 tombstone. This 
item was expertly removed from the rack and is in like new condition. Asking 
only $12.42 which includes shipping and one meter of duct tape for easy 
installation.  

Curtis "hacksaw"McKenzie

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar swap question

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi DS,
Congrats on the Hunqapillar!

Shifters:
The MTN vs Road bar thing: you might want to consider the "IRD Silver SOS 
thumbies" offered by Riv. Unlike the Paul thumbies, which are for specific 
h-bar diameters, the SOS thumbies come with shims. You can swap between MTN 
and Road bars by moving the SOS +/- shim. With a set each of MTN and road 
brake levers, you'd be all set to try a whole bunch of set ups.

Alternatively, if you're ok with it, down tube shifters would obviate the 
change shifter issue. A quill shifter mount would also do the trick.

(I'm a thumbies and bar-end shifter sort of guy, so I'll deal with the 
swaps. If you're into swapping on a 10-min whim, you can get a set of 
DaVinci splitters. I think Ritchey offers a similar splitter.)

Grips:
I usually run bars without tape until I get the brake levers "just right". 
If that's not your thing, bar tape wraps quickly and is inexpensive. 
Clamp-on grips would work, too. The downside to the cork grips is the glue 
part-- some use tape or hairspray to get the grips on without using glue.

I'd also recommend Spur Cycles grip rings. 
(http://spurcycle.com/griprings.html) They are silicone and comfy. I have 
them on my crosscheck, and they are fairly easy on/off. 

Stems:
Stem length can make a huge difference in comfort. dougP mentioned 
removable face plate for swaps-- you can combine that and stem changes by 
using a threadless stem adaptor. VO and Nitto (probably others) make them. 
You can then use fairly inexpensive threadless stems to dial in the proper 
stem length. I think Marc Irwin who posts to this list has his Hunqapillar 
set up with one of these stems.

Good luck and enjoy the ride!
Shoji 



On Saturday, April 12, 2014 5:15:58 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I haven't tried the moustache bars so I can't directly answer your 
> question. A backdoor answer is that I tried the Albatross bars upside down 
> and as high as I could get them with my stem. They were not comfortable at 
> all for me. The Albatross below saddle height didn't feel right, but 
> getting it at or 1" above saddle height and every things perfect so far.
>
> You are right, the Bullmoose and Albatross bars would swap easily. Just 
> remove shifters/brakes (presuming thumbie shifters) and swap. Your screw on 
> grips would work for that also.
>
> It's when you cross the threshold between mtn and road that things get 
> more complicated. For the Albatross conversion I needed to redo the brake 
> and derailure cables, new brake levers, and switch to bar end shifters, 
> plus I needed a new stem (I would have anyway because I needed a 3 cm 
> shorter stem for the Albastaches). That's a LOT more work and I needed time 
> to be sure I couldn't get the Albatross to work for me before I was willing 
> to go that route. I am delighted I did!
>
> Whatever end up working for you you'll have some grand times figuring it 
> out!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick 
>
> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 10:34:35 AM UTC-6, DS wrote:
>>
>> Hey Patrick - I have watched that thread. My hesitation there is that I 
>> recently put some moustache bars on an old Trek road bike and wasn't really 
>> into them. Admittedly that was a road bike and not on trails, but riding in 
>> the drops never felt right to me. But I understand that the Albastache has 
>> more shallow drops, and are not very comparable to Moustache?
>>
>> I'm actually heading to Rivendell HQ today to return something, so will 
>> check it out.
>>
>> My big question is around understanding the ease of handlebar swaps, if 
>> it is easy enough I may just go bullmoose and albatross and try them both, 
>> and thanks for pointing out on the other drop bars about the diameter, 
>> didn't think of that.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: So Cal s480+

[Hugh Smitham]

Thanks for saying so. Have a great time.

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Curtis McKenzie  wrote:

> Doug, thank you for the tip.  We will take your advice a return via Santa
> Paula.
>
> Hugh and Evan, trip will not be the same without you guys.
>
>
> On Saturday, April 12, 2014, hsmitham  wrote:
>
>> Sounds like fun but that's Easter weekend so I'll have to pass.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>
>> On Friday, April 11, 2014 9:37:06 AM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Planning a two night trip around the Ventura area.  Here is the general
>>> idea:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Friday April 18 arrive in Ventura by train.  Ride to Ojai and camp in
>>> near by camp ground.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Saturday hang around Ojai area and make our way back to Ventura and stay
>>> at Emma Woods State beach.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sunday take train home.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If interested chime in.
>>>
>>>
>>> Curtis
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[RBW] Re: So Cal s480+

[Curtis McKenzie]

Doug, thank you for the tip.  We will take your advice a return via Santa
Paula.

Hugh and Evan, trip will not be the same without you guys.

On Saturday, April 12, 2014, hsmitham  wrote:

> Sounds like fun but that's Easter weekend so I'll have to pass.
>
> ~Hugh
>
> On Friday, April 11, 2014 9:37:06 AM UTC-7, Curtis wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> Planning a two night trip around the Ventura area.  Here is the general
>> idea:
>>
>>
>>
>> Friday April 18 arrive in Ventura by train.  Ride to Ojai and camp in
>> near by camp ground.
>>
>>
>>
>> Saturday hang around Ojai area and make our way back to Ventura and stay
>> at Emma Woods State beach.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sunday take train home.
>>
>>
>>
>> If interested chime in.
>>
>>
>> Curtis
>>
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[RBW] Re: Indianapolis S24O - Weekend of April 25th

[Michael Fleischman]

Eric,

Excellent.  I got a buddy up here that will be joining.  I say we try to meet 
up around 2 PM on Saturday the 26th and aim to be down there and setting up 
camp by 5:30 / 6:00.  

BTW - I think we have a mutual friend, Jake Parker?  I feel like I have heard 
your name before.

Let me know if this works.

Michael 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[Chris Chen]

Mike:

You do what you do, right?

cc


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:41 AM, velomann  wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Great story. Totally worth it, I'm sure. Reminds me of the summer of '78.
> I was 18, just out of high school, working as a cook at Old Faithful Lodge
> in Yellowstone. Had a day off and a hankering for a buffalo burger and a
> piece of pie from the little cafe in West Yellowstone - 31 miles away. My
> bike at the time was a Montgomery Wards 10-speed and my riding duds Levis
> and a flannel shirt. Threw on a daypack and a water bottle and did the
> ride. Good burger and pie, for sure. And spectacular scenery along the
> Firehole and Madison Rivers. Mostly uphill on the way back including one
> pretty stiff climb up the Firehole Canyon, full stomach and heat of the
> day. I remember pulling into a picnic area along the river with about 10
> miles left and lying down on a table and falling asleep. My first long ride.
>
> Mike
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[velomann]

Chris,

Great story. Totally worth it, I'm sure. Reminds me of the summer of '78. I 
was 18, just out of high school, working as a cook at Old Faithful Lodge in 
Yellowstone. Had a day off and a hankering for a buffalo burger and a piece 
of pie from the little cafe in West Yellowstone - 31 miles away. My bike at 
the time was a Montgomery Wards 10-speed and my riding duds Levis and a 
flannel shirt. Threw on a daypack and a water bottle and did the ride. Good 
burger and pie, for sure. And spectacular scenery along the Firehole and 
Madison Rivers. Mostly uphill on the way back including one pretty stiff 
climb up the Firehole Canyon, full stomach and heat of the day. I remember 
pulling into a picnic area along the river with about 10 miles left and 
lying down on a table and falling asleep. My first long ride.

Mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[Chris Chen]

That's the magic, right? When it gets dark you don't think "oh shit, I have
two hours left before I go dark", you think, "well, the night is mine."

Not like batman, I mean, not unless you're into vigilante justice AND
bicycles.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Jeremy Till  wrote:

> This is exactly the kind of ride I envisioned when I built up the dyno
> wheel for my LHT.  So far, it hasn't quite come to pass, but ride reports
> like this give me hope.
>
>
> On Monday, April 14, 2014 12:41:14 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
>> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
>>
>> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any
>> more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first
>> thought I had was,
>>
>> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
>>
>> I have evidence of this: https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/
>> 455385037743988737
>>
>> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock
>> & Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge
>> of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
>>
>> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did
>> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River
>> Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear
>> and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies
>> were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
>>
>> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after
>> crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first
>> turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct
>> fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my
>> birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb.
>> To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon,
>> which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic
>> highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main
>> vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic
>> area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of
>> Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish
>> Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
>>
>> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion
>> of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for
>> the stairs. Oh god the stairs.
>>
>> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char
>> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in
>> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall"
>> and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural
>> because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE
>> CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.
>>
>> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little
>> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned
>> out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached
>> the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal
>> with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures
>> started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this
>> before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.
>>
>> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and
>> way more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the
>> businesses are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my
>> dynamo light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the
>> distance; the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.
>>
>> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a
>> flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way,
>> and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
>>
>> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning
>> more rides that go late into the night.
>>
>> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/
>>
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[RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm

[Mattt]

I am selling my 60cm Sam Hillborne.  I estimate it has about 1000 miles on 
it.  The frame is in excellent condition.   There are 3-4 nicks on the 
frame. There is no chain scrapes or anything of the such on the chain stay.  
The Sam has not been in crashes and always ridden with care.  Framesaver 
was put on or in the Sam. I recently put on new wires for the brakes and 
derailers.  The moustache bar is a little beat up, but most of the scrapes 
are under the tape.  The moustache bar has a noticeable scrape near the 
clamp from a previous owner struggling to get it on.

I had this for sale on craiglist in the past and someone on the list posted 
it here.   I found my white whale and why now putting this on the market 
again.  I have to conform to my wife’s one bike policy.

I understand the moustache bar is not a desirable handlebar for some riders.  
A dirt drop stem usually goes with the moustache bar  If this is the case, 
I will sell the bike without the moustache bar for $40 less and without the 
moustache bar and dirt drop stem for $100 less. 

The Sam Hillborne does not include the rear rack and front and rear light 
seen in the pictures.  Also, the moustache bar no longer has tape.  I was 
doing some experimenting with handlebars.  I will update the pictures 
accordingly if you want to see without. 

Please send me any questions.  
I am asking $2000 plus shipping.  Send me an offer you believe is fair.  The 
most I can say is no or barter and we can still be RBW friends.
I live in Oklahoma City, OK, if anyone is near by and wants to see in 
person.  
I did my best for detailed pictures.  If you need to see anything further 
let me know.
  
*https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3njnWUSiXUHNFZNZkFmenloREE&usp=sharing*

 Here is a list of the parts:

Rear Wheel – White Industries MI5 hub with Velocity Synergy Rims

Front Wheel – Shimano dynamo hub with Velocity Synergy Rims

*Both wheels were built by Tony at Longleaf Cycles

Tires – Schwalbe Marathon Supremes 700x32 (Lots of life left)

Skewers – Velo Orange Quick Release

Rear Cassette – Shimano XT M770 9 Speed – 11-32

Rear Derailer – Shimano XT M772 Shadow

Front Derailer – Shimano Ultregra 6700 Double

Bottom Bracket – SKF

Crank – Sugino Alpina 172.5mm Double 34x48

Pedals – MKS Sylvan Touring with Power straps( I know someone out there 
loves them besides me)

Fenders – Honjo 45mm Le Paon (There is a barely noticeable extra hole I 
drilled in wrong place.)

Seatpost – Nitto S65

Saddle – Brooks B17

Brakes – Paul Components Racer

Brake Levers – Cane Creek Aero Levers

Shifters – Silver Shifters 

Headset – Tange

Stem – Nitto Dirt Drop 10cm and 26mm clamp

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Patrick Moore]

That first "beeswax" ought to be "paraffin" of course.


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>
> Yes, beeswax does penetrate (it's thinner than bees wax when liquid) but
> apparently it doesn't keep water out or at any rate, doesn't keep the chain
> lubed when water gets in.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Patrick Moore]

I can't answer that. I just know that even a little wet makes the chain
noisy; I also know that the general scuttlebutt (waxing has been around for
decades) is that paraffin is not a good lube for wet conditions. I haven't
heard of anyone recommend bees wax except Grant, and I haven't heard
anyone, Grant or anyone else, give any reason why it might be good as a
chain lube.

Yes, beeswax does penetrate (it's thinner than bees wax when liquid) but
apparently it doesn't keep water out or at any rate, doesn't keep the chain
lubed when water gets in.

FWIW, I get a consistent 2K miles of out cheap Sachs chains no matter what
I do to lube them; and I lube every 200 miles or so. Perhaps its the strain
on the chains from climbing fixed? At any rate, the only benefit I have
gained from waxing over many years is what I described. I have tended
recently to simply wipe a chain, drip on lube, spin, and wipe again until
the outside is relatively clean. I do prefer "light" lubes to the heavy
ones that many people recommend for wet weather.


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:03 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I'm thick-headed with wool for brains, so please help me understand why
> wax works in dry dusty conditions by not wet. That makes no sense to me.
>
> Adding vasaline to beeswax might make sense. Would adding an oil of some
> kind make equal sense?
>
> Patrick, doesn't beeswax penetrate the chain when you cook it for 30
> minutes?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[Jeremy Till]

This is exactly the kind of ride I envisioned when I built up the dyno 
wheel for my LHT.  So far, it hasn't quite come to pass, but ride reports 
like this give me hope.

On Monday, April 14, 2014 12:41:14 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
>
> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any 
> more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first 
> thought I had was,
>
> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
>
> I have evidence of this: 
> https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737
>
> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock 
> & Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge 
> of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
>
> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did 
> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River 
> Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear 
> and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies 
> were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
>
> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after 
> crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first 
> turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct 
> fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my 
> birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. 
> To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, 
> which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic 
> highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main 
> vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic 
> area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of 
> Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish 
> Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
>
> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion 
> of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for 
> the stairs. Oh god the stairs.
>
> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char 
> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in 
> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall" 
> and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural 
> because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE 
> CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.
>
> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little 
> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned 
> out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached 
> the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal 
> with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures 
> started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this 
> before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.
>
> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way 
> more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses 
> are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo 
> light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; 
> the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.
>
> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a 
> flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, 
> and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
>
> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more 
> rides that go late into the night.
>
> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ 
>
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Re: [RBW] Chain lube/wax

[jimD]

This stuff works great but no way will it stay 'clean'.
http://chain-l.com/index.html
-Jim

On Apr 14, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Anne  wrote:

> Same recommendation here. Just wipe the chain sideplates after every ride. 
> Lasts a long time. When you start to hear chain noise, add another half dozen 
> drops.
> 
> On Monday, April 14, 2014 9:35:05 AM UTC-4, danmc wrote:
> Patrick
> 
> Not so sure about the solid waxes but do recommend you give NFS a try. Very 
> highly recommended. 
> 
> http://ballersride.com/shop/nixfrixshun-chainlube-nfs
> 
> Dan
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[RoadieRyan]

Hmmm Char burger.  As a kid growing up in Portland the family often took 
trips through the gorge on the way to visit family in Eastern Washington 
and we would regularly stop at Char Burger in Hood River -yum.

On Monday, April 14, 2014 12:41:14 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
>
> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any 
> more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first 
> thought I had was,
>
> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
>
> I have evidence of this: 
> https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737
>
> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock 
> & Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge 
> of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
>
> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did 
> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River 
> Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear 
> and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies 
> were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
>
> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after 
> crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first 
> turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct 
> fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my 
> birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. 
> To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, 
> which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic 
> highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main 
> vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic 
> area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of 
> Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish 
> Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
>
> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion 
> of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for 
> the stairs. Oh god the stairs.
>
> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char 
> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in 
> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall" 
> and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural 
> because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE 
> CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.
>
> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little 
> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned 
> out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached 
> the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal 
> with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures 
> started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this 
> before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.
>
> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way 
> more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses 
> are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo 
> light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; 
> the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.
>
> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a 
> flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, 
> and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
>
> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more 
> rides that go late into the night.
>
> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ 
>
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[RoadieRyan]

Hmmm Char burger.  As a kid growing up in Portland the family often took 
trips through the gorge on the way to visit family in Eastern Washington 
and we would regularly stop at Char Burger in Hood River -yum.

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>
> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
>
> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any 
> more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first 
> thought I had was,
>
> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
>
> I have evidence of this: 
> https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737
>
> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock 
> & Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge 
> of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
>
> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did 
> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River 
> Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear 
> and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies 
> were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
>
> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after 
> crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first 
> turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct 
> fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my 
> birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. 
> To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, 
> which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic 
> highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main 
> vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic 
> area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of 
> Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish 
> Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
>
> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion 
> of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for 
> the stairs. Oh god the stairs.
>
> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char 
> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in 
> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall" 
> and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural 
> because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE 
> CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.
>
> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little 
> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned 
> out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached 
> the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal 
> with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures 
> started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this 
> before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.
>
> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way 
> more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses 
> are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo 
> light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; 
> the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.
>
> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a 
> flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, 
> and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
>
> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more 
> rides that go late into the night.
>
> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ 
>
> -- 
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[RBW] test ride for a friend

[Rusty Click]

Is there anyone in Pittsburgh commuting distance, who has a Betty or 
Cheviot?  I have finally convinced a good friend and riding partner to 
consider getting her first Riv, but she would like to try riding one before 
making a purchase decision.  She is sure she wants a step through frame, 
and does quite a few bike trips with us.

Thanks,
Rusty
Pittsburgh,PA

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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Deacon Patrick]

I should add, that the challenge I have in the riding I do is it's both 
"wet" and "dry" almost at the same time on many, many days. Between 20 
minute downpours than mudify everything to creek crossings, things rapidly 
go from wet to dry to wet to dry. Dry dust and grit sticks to the "wet" 
lubes, and the dry lubes are gone in a flash. Do any of the above 
suggestions address those conditions (short of reapplying multiple times on 
the same ride)?

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Chain lube/wax

[Deacon Patrick]

I'm thick-headed with wool for brains, so please help me understand why wax 
works in dry dusty conditions by not wet. That makes no sense to me.

Adding vasaline to beeswax might make sense. Would adding an oil of some 
kind make equal sense?

Patrick, doesn't beeswax penetrate the chain when you cook it for 30 
minutes?

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Indianapolis S24O - Weekend of April 25th

[EGNolan]

Michael,
I may be able to ride down/camp out if you go on the 26th. I'd probably 
meet my wife and kids in Bloomington & catch a ride back on Sunday, though. 
I've got a coupla friends in B-ton that may be interested in meeting/riding 
and camping as well, but they're not on this list. If you can get some 
times together, let me know.
 
Best,
Eric

 

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[RBW] Re: Albastache conversion Complete!

[Deacon Patrick]

Dave, it's a Rivet. It's new and I'm only a few longish rides into it, but 
it's flat out the best saddle I've ridden. That's not saying much as in 
recent history I've ridden the B-68 for two years. But while I can tell I 
am still breaking it in, it is the most comfortable saddle after a few 
hours riding I've ever been on. Me bits still get blood flow for one thing.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:05:50 PM UTC-6, Dave Redmon wrote:
>
> What's the make of your saddle, Patrick? 
>
> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:56:09 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Thanks to you all, your knowledge, suggestions, and various parts the 
>> conversion to Albastache is complete! I got to do a few extra jobs beyond 
>> what I thought, but handled them all better than I would have thought 
>> because of the newly fortified Hobbit Hole/stow-away-workshop.
>>
>> Thank you for all your help!
>>
>> Pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/13806244434/
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>  
>>

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[RBW] Re: Two Rivs on Denver area Craigs List

[Deacon Patrick]

Fantastic, Thomas! That QB is a beauty!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:26:47 PM UTC-6, Thomas McCause wrote:
>
> I picked up the quickbeam that was up there last week after selling enough 
> bike stuff to fund the purchase...
> I need to take fresh pictures, but that snow is hammering Denver 
> today...had enough time in the garage to add a basket and readjust fenders 
> with the secu-clips and take a ride before the snow really started to fly 
> here in Parker...
>
> Hopefully I will get pics soon...
>
> Thomas
>
> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:58:07 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Not mine, just saw them and in case someone is in the hunt:
>>
>> 58 Atlantis (not sure if any of the pics are the actual bike, worth 
>> asking if interested)
>> http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4370909847.html
>>
>> 61 Custom (stunning twilight purple)
>> http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4399895529.html
>>
>> Happy hunting!
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
>> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>>  
>>

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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[Mike Williams]

Please tell me you were listening to Woody Guthrie's  ' Columbia River 
Collection' on this wonderful adventure!  It would pair nicely.  Great write 
up/ pics CC

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 14, 2014, at 12:41 AM, Chris Chen  wrote:
> 
> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
> 
> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any more 
> riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first 
> thought I had was,
> 
> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
> 
> I have evidence of this: 
> https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737
> 
> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock & 
> Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge of 
> The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
> 
> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did 
> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River Highway. 
> The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear and spin my 
> way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies were so blue and 
> Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
> 
> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after crossing 
> the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first turns off the 
> historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct fashion. It was a 
> hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my birthday ride on New 
> Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. To stay on the ridge (or 
> close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, which has a few pretty 
> rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic highway just outside the Town 
> of Corbett. In short order I hit the main vista spots, the Women's Forum, 
> Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic area nobody ever seems to use), 
> Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of Disneyland more and more every time I 
> visit), and the Bonneville Fish Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
> 
> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion of 
> the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for the 
> stairs. Oh god the stairs.
> 
> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char 
> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in 
> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall" and 
> more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural because 
> I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE CHEEZBURGER FOR 
> ME.
> 
> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little 
> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned out, 
> this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached the 
> touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal with 
> were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures started to 
> fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this before--riding gets easier 
> when it's cooler.
> 
> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way 
> more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses 
> are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo light 
> to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; the stars 
> were out and the moon was nearly full.
> 
> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a flood 
> control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, and the 
> radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
> 
> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more 
> rides that go late into the night.
> 
> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ 
> 
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[RBW] An idea for an additional saddlebag grip

[Michael Ullmer]

I recently acquired a Nitto Saddlebag Grip which has made the use of 
saddlebags for daily use actually practical as I don't have to spend 5 
minutes fiddling with the leather straps whenever I want to take the bag on 
or off the bike. It is truly an amazing design. I found, though, that I 
needed to keep the grip tightened closely to the bag in order to avoid 
excessive swaying of the bag while riding. This meant that there wasn't 
enough room for me to hold on to the grip because there wasn't enough space 
between the grip and the bag. I then created my own handle which attaches 
to the grip. This allows me to snug the grip as tight as I want against the 
bag and still be able to carry it comfortably off the bike. The homemade 
grip is made of two strips of leather which were initially wrapped with 
twine and then shellaced, but I found that I liked the feel of shellaced 
cotton handlebar tape better. I noticed that the metal rings which attach 
to the handle to the grip were wrapped around the small screw in the 
picture and that it eventually wore away at the threads of the screw. I 
found that using a nylon bushing to protect the screw is the way to go. I 
hope this is helpful to anyone using a saddlebag grip that wants to make 
their own handle. If you need any clarification on any of this please get 
in touch. Cheers all!

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Re: [RBW] Re: 26" Tire Suggestions?

[Michael Ullmer]

Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I decided on Schwalbe Kojaks which 
should be ariving any day now. Once the build is entirely complete I'll 
post some pics. Thank again!


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[RBW] Re: Two Rivs on Denver area Craigs List

[Thomas McCause]

I picked up the quickbeam that was up there last week after selling enough 
bike stuff to fund the purchase...
I need to take fresh pictures, but that snow is hammering Denver 
today...had enough time in the garage to add a basket and readjust fenders 
with the secu-clips and take a ride before the snow really started to fly 
here in Parker...

Hopefully I will get pics soon...

Thomas

On Saturday, April 12, 2014 7:58:07 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Not mine, just saw them and in case someone is in the hunt:
>
> 58 Atlantis (not sure if any of the pics are the actual bike, worth asking 
> if interested)
> http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4370909847.html
>
> 61 Custom (stunning twilight purple)
> http://denver.craigslist.org/bik/4399895529.html
>
> Happy hunting!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Albastache conversion Complete!

[Dave Redmon]

What's the make of your saddle, Patrick? 

On Saturday, April 12, 2014 3:56:09 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thanks to you all, your knowledge, suggestions, and various parts the 
> conversion to Albastache is complete! I got to do a few extra jobs beyond 
> what I thought, but handled them all better than I would have thought 
> because of the newly fortified Hobbit Hole/stow-away-workshop.
>
> Thank you for all your help!
>
> Pictures: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/13806244434/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
>  
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Re: [RBW] Cheviot's poppy picture

[jimD]

I had this 'redirect loop' problem intermittently this weekend.

Seems to be a bug accompanying the recent Flickr 'enhancements'.

-JimD

On Apr 13, 2014, at 6:45 PM, Cecily Walker  wrote:

> Is anyone else in the group getting trapped in a redirect loop when viewing 
> Flickr photos? It doesn't seem to matter whether I click the link directly or 
> if I copy it and paste it into another window. I sure hate missing out on all 
> the springtime floral/Riv photos. :(
> 
> On Saturday, April 12, 2014 6:50:41 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/10252787755
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4630014620
> 
> :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 6:49 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> That's such a GREAT looking bike in any location!!! 
> 
> Cheers,
> David
> 
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 6:43 PM, grrlyrida  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think Rivbike's Cheviot poppy photo is one the prettiest pictures I've seen 
> on their site (that's a lot of "P's"). When I visited my mom up in Santa Ynez 
> Valley, I stopped by La Purisma Mission and saw a field of poppies. I 
> couldn't resist snapping a photo of my bike in a poppy field a la Cheviot 
> style. As you've noticed, I don't shy away from color.
> 
>  Anyone else inspired by poppies or flowers in the spring for bike photo 
> opportunities?
> 
> Ness
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Re: [RBW] Chain lube/wax

[Anne]

Same recommendation here. Just wipe the chain sideplates after every ride. 
Lasts a long time. When you start to hear chain noise, add another half 
dozen drops.

On Monday, April 14, 2014 9:35:05 AM UTC-4, danmc wrote:
>
> Patrick
>
> Not so sure about the solid waxes but do recommend you give NFS a try. 
> Very highly recommended. 
>
> http://ballersride.com/shop/nixfrixshun-chainlube-nfs
>
> Dan
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[RBW] Re: "Enjoy"

[Shoji Takahashi]

I'm supposed to wait two hours for the Boeshield to dry? To quote the DP, 
"Och!"

I guess I've been doing it wrong all along... or you can say that's my 
different philosophy. Spray/wipe/go.

--shoji

On Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:53:31 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> A lot has been written about differing personalities and philosophies, 
> sometimes it's about trail or tube thickness, sometimes it's about 
> suppleness, or what have you, but I was doing some drivetrain cleaning and 
> I was wondering about the whole greasing square taper vs dry fitting, and 
> of course I was searching the Internet, where I came across this post from 
> Jan:
>
> http://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/04/16/to-grease-or-not-to-grease/
>
> But the point of the matter isn't the technical debate between greasing or 
> not greasing (for the record I put a tiny bit of grease on the taper, like 
> I was applying ointment), but one of the last phrases in the post:
>
> <<...put them back on, and enjoy them some more.>>
>
> I was struck by the poetry of this statement. I guess that's the point of 
> this whole exercise. We enjoy our bicycles; They give us joy. The joy of 
> movement and flying, the joy of conquering a climb, the joy of a quiet 
> vista with no one in sight. And the joy of riding with cherished friends.
>
> So anyway, while I'm waiting the next two hours for the boeshield to dry 
> on my chain, I'd to wish everyone joy.
>
> ...and enjoy them some more.
>
> Cheers
>
> cc
>
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Re: [RBW] Chain lube/wax

[David Brandt]

After ruining several pairs of pants from grease stains I made the switch. I 
have been riding with 4 parts paraffin to 1 part beeswax for the last couple 
years and love it. I told Grant that I was doing it and he suggested adding a 
little petroleum jelly to it. So now I run with an added tablespoon of jelly in 
it.

My bike drivetrain stays cleaner, seems quitter and I have not had an issue 
with the chain. You can touch the components now and stay clean.

I rewax it about every 400 - 500 miles. It is easy once your set up to do it.

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[RBW] Re: Albastache conversion Complete!

[Shoji Takahashi]

great job, Patrick. It usually takes me a season or two before I tape my 
h-bars. I enjoy bar swaps as they really change the feel of the bike. Enjoy 
the new [handling] bike!

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On Sunday, April 13, 2014 2:27:56 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure Newbaum and Rivendell are colluding in color coordination 
> cahoots. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, April 13, 2014 12:24:39 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Thanks! Perfect color bartape for that bike. Looks great!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[Shoji Takahashi]

fun read-- sounds like a great ride. Thx!



On Monday, April 14, 2014 3:41:14 AM UTC-4, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
>
> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any 
> more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first 
> thought I had was,
>
> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
>
> I have evidence of this: 
> https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737
>
> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock 
> & Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge 
> of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
>
> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did 
> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River 
> Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear 
> and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies 
> were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
>
> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after 
> crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first 
> turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct 
> fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my 
> birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. 
> To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, 
> which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic 
> highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main 
> vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic 
> area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of 
> Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish 
> Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
>
> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion 
> of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for 
> the stairs. Oh god the stairs.
>
> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char 
> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in 
> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall" 
> and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural 
> because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE 
> CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.
>
> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little 
> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned 
> out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached 
> the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal 
> with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures 
> started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this 
> before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.
>
> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way 
> more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses 
> are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo 
> light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; 
> the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.
>
> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a 
> flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, 
> and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
>
> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more 
> rides that go late into the night.
>
> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ 
>
> -- 
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Re: [RBW] Chain lube/wax

[Dan McNamara]

Patrick

Not so sure about the solid waxes but do recommend you give NFS a try. Very 
highly recommended. 

http://ballersride.com/shop/nixfrixshun-chainlube-nfs

Dan

> On Apr 14, 2014, at 5:57 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:
> 
> So the stuff I’ve been using lasts a few hours when it’s any sort of wet out 
> and good luck lubing when it’s all wet and grime sticking to grime sticking 
> to grime sticking to chain. Grin.
> 
> I am contemplating trying beeswax for my chain, and the websites I’ve found 
> cite Grant saying 8:1 paraffin:beeswax, but then others say “we’re wetter 
> here, so I went 4:1.” Anyone ever go 100% beeswax? What’s the purpose of the 
> paraffin? (I presume to thin the beeswax a bit so the chain isn’t stiff?). If 
> I used all beeswax and then got each link moving first, would that help?
> 
> Other ideas that work and don’t attract dirt and don’t need reapplying 
> because thunder over the next ridge scared the lube off the chain?
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
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Re: [RBW] Chain lube/wax

[Patrick Moore]

Paraffin is no good at all for chains in wet weather. Its great offroad in
dry weather because nothing sticks to it -- I can ride hours in sandy soil,
wipe my finger over the chain and have it come away clean. But one good
wetting will make your chain noisy.

You can add oils or graphite to paraffin. Oil: the more you add, the more
sticky it becomes. I've not tried graphite.

Beeswax is no good for chains at all -- too thick to penetrate, lumpy and
sticky when dry.

I've waxed chains off and on for 15 years at least. Besides a
clean-to-touch chain -- a real benefit -- I'm not sure it has other real
benefits. It does clean the chain when you soak it, though -- oh, and keep
the chain elevated above the bottom of the waxing pot where all the gunk
falls. I go back and forth between dribble on bottled lube and wipe off and
waxing.

If you wax, using an old crockpot and master links makes it very easy. Melt
wax, simmer chain for 30 minutes, remove from heat, add salt and pepper to
taste, garnish with parsley.




On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> So the stuff I’ve been using lasts a few hours when it’s any sort of wet
> out and good luck lubing when it’s all wet and grime sticking to grime
> sticking to grime sticking to chain. Grin.
>
> I am contemplating trying beeswax for my chain, and the websites I’ve
> found cite Grant saying 8:1 paraffin:beeswax, but then others say “we’re
> wetter here, so I went 4:1.” Anyone ever go 100% beeswax? What’s the
> purpose of the paraffin? (I presume to thin the beeswax a bit so the chain
> isn’t stiff?). If I used all beeswax and then got each link moving first,
> would that help?
>
> Other ideas that work and don’t attract dirt and don’t need reapplying
> because thunder over the next ridge scared the lube off the chain?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org *
> *www.OurHolyConception.org *
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[RBW] Chain lube/wax

[Deacon Patrick]

So the stuff I've been using lasts a few hours when it's any sort of wet out 
and good luck lubing when it's all wet and grime sticking to grime sticking to 
grime sticking to chain. Grin.

I am contemplating trying beeswax for my chain, and the websites I've found 
cite Grant saying 8:1 paraffin:beeswax, but then others say "we're wetter here, 
so I went 4:1." Anyone ever go 100% beeswax? What's the purpose of the 
paraffin? (I presume to thin the beeswax a bit so the chain isn't stiff?). If I 
used all beeswax and then got each link moving first, would that help?

Other ideas that work and don't attract dirt and don't need reapplying because 
thunder over the next ridge scared the lube off the chain?

With abandon,
Patrick

www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
www.OurHolyConception.org

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[Deacon Patrick]

So often it's the barriers we perceive going in that end up being the 
source of startling joy! Great ride report! Thanks, Chris.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, April 14, 2014 1:41:14 AM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.
>
> After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any 
> more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first 
> thought I had was,
>
> "eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."
>
> I have evidence of this: 
> https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737
>
> But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock 
> & Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge 
> of The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.
>
> I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did 
> some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River 
> Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear 
> and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies 
> were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.
>
> The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after 
> crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first 
> turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct 
> fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my 
> birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb. 
> To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon, 
> which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic 
> highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main 
> vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic 
> area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of 
> Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish 
> Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.
>
> The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion 
> of the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for 
> the stairs. Oh god the stairs.
>
> The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char 
> Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in 
> the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall" 
> and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural 
> because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE 
> CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.
>
> I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little 
> apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned 
> out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached 
> the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal 
> with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures 
> started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this 
> before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.
>
> So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way 
> more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses 
> are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo 
> light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance; 
> the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.
>
> I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a 
> flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way, 
> and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.
>
> Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more 
> rides that go late into the night.
>
> ~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/ 
>
> -- 
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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[Michael Fleischman]

Thanks for sharing the ride report.  Looks like a great ride.  

Love the picture of your AHH with the waterfall in the background.  

Michael

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[RBW] Re: Riding in a Winter Wonderland!

[Michael Hechmer]

Yup, been there, along with spokes that had grown to be an inch thick.  I 
actually find riding when the temperature is right around freezing and the 
roads snow covered to be the most difficult.   It's easier at 20 degrees.
Michael

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:12:58 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Och, Michael! You know your riding when you breeches and gators are caked 
> with ice so you clink-crunch with every pedal stroke! Grin. You know your 
> riding when your front derailure no longer shifts to the middle ring and 
> your rear derailure freezes so it won't shift at all. Inadvertent single 
> speed riding. Grin.
>
> Find your inner moppet and play in the mud! You'l have so much fun there 
> will be a grin from ear to ear.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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[RBW] Ride Report: The Hundred Mile Burger

[Chris Chen]

Or: How I fell in love with my bicycle again.

After the awesome ramble out to Mason Hill, I wasn't planning to do any
more riding this weekend, but a social engagement fell through so the first
thought I had was,

"eff it, I'm going to Crown Point."

I have evidence of this:
https://twitter.com/secretasianman/status/455385037743988737

But really that was a straw man. I really wanted to go to Bonneville Lock &
Dam, and probably Cascade Locks, home of the Char Burger and The Bridge of
The Gods, roughly 50 miles distant.

I packed plenty of fruit and nuts and water, but forgot my maps, so I did
some psychic navigation to Troutdale and the Historic Columbia River
Highway. The Easterlies were strong today; I had to just pick a lower gear
and spin my way on the flats. It was not my favorite thing but the skies
were so blue and Mount Hood was so clear I nearly forgave the wind.

The highway leaves Troutdale and enters the Scenic Area proper after
crossing the Sandy River. I took Woodard Rd., which is one of the first
turns off the historic highway, which takes you up the bluff in a direct
fashion. It was a hoot to see cabbage fields I had last seen when I did my
birthday ride on New Year's Eve. Woodard is a pretty honest direct climb.
To stay on the ridge (or close to it) I needed to move over to Mershon,
which has a few pretty rollers. This dropped me back onto the historic
highway just outside the Town of Corbett. In short order I hit the main
vista spots, the Women's Forum, Crown Point (where I hung out at the picnic
area nobody ever seems to use), Multnomah Falls (which reminds me of
Disneyland more and more every time I visit), and the Bonneville Fish
Hatchery, where you can see GIANT STURGEON.

The last six miles of the ride to Cascade Locks was on the Trail portion of
the Historic Columbia River Highway, which I've come to like. Except for
the stairs. Oh god the stairs.

The first restaurant you reach when you get to Cascade Locks is the Char
Burger, which is currently undergoing renovations, so I ended up eating in
the smaller restaurant in the basement, which is less "guns on the wall"
and more "waterfront dining". Oh well. BURGERS WERE HAD. I use the plural
because I took the burger of a customer who left after ordering. MORE
CHEEZBURGER FOR ME.

I'd known that I wouldn't get back home before dark, so I was a little
apprehensive of riding on curvy country roads at night, but as it turned
out, this was the most magical part of the ride. By the time I'd reached
the touristy areas, almost all the cars were gone, and all I had to deal
with were clouds of Gnats. As the sun disappeared and the temperatures
started to fall, I found I had more energy. I've noticed this
before--riding gets easier when it's cooler.

So here's the magical part: All the small towns were really quiet, and way
more charming at night than during the day. By 10pm most all the businesses
are closed, and it's just so quiet. I heard frogs! I adjusted my dynamo
light to point a little higher and I was able to see far in the distance;
the stars were out and the moon was nearly full.

I returned back via Marine Drive, which is a road that is built atop a
flood control dike; It was a gorgeous night to return to Portland that way,
and the radar speed reader clocked me at 15mph, which I'll take any day.

Pictures prove something, but mostly that I'm thinking about planning more
rides that go late into the night.

~100mi, leave noon, return 11pm.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/sets/72157643935581004/

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