date:20140713

Mobile Bill, I can chime in for a moment on the 26 tires versus the 
650B's.  I have 2 650B bikes—a Saluki like you and a proto Bleriot set up 
as a single speed.  when I won the raffle custom, with my height and custom 
desires (55mm tires  fenders, top tube, diagatube/lng wheelbase, 650B 
wheels, combined with 5'2 height) something had to give for it all to 
work.  That something was going from 650B to 26 wheels.  Turns out that 
with the 55mm Big Bens, the outer diameter is really about a 700.  I got 
the 55 Big Bens because I took the little 48 Hunq out on a S24O with the 
merry Rivsters in Walnut Creek and fell in love with the confidence and 
security of those big tires. 

I thought going into it that I would just be able to swap wheels back and 
forth when everything was going to be 650B, especially my front wheel 
because I have one dyne hub that goes back and forth between the Saluki and 
Proto.  I just bit the big one and invested in a dyne hub for the 26 
wheels.  I also don't do a lot of switching tires, so that hasn't been a 
big deal.  If I want supple casings, etc, I ride the Saluki or Proto.  If I 
want to bomb around and go anywhere, I'm on the custom/Big Bens.  Granted, 
I don't do mountain trails—but I think there are plenty of folks who use 
the BiG Bens for those purposes.

The ride I have now on the custom is great great great, and I feel a bit 
like I'm up on a tractor, which I quite enjoy as a short person.  

I think you can't go wrong; go with your heart and habits and only you know 
how they intersect with your funds.  If you're crazy about tires and like 
to futz with trying all different sorts, yes, a 650B these days will 
provide lots of fun and the Bomba is the middle way to go.  Can you stretch 
your dollars to the max and get a custom?  You won't regret it but you'll 
have to wait. Is a Hunq with 26 wheels fun?  You bet! Plus it's the least 
hard on funds.  You can't go wrong, friend.

good luck,
RCW

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Re: [RBW] FS: The Hunq. But I'm keeping the Atlantis!

2014-07-13 Thread justinaugust

If it was my size this would be perfectly cromulent timing. I'm sorry to hear 
about being laid off. I hope you're able to move it!

-J

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[RBW] Re: Virtual Entmoot Ride Reports

Fantastic, Takashi! I'm not sure I get credit for the idea, but wherever it 
came from, it's a fun one!

I love your fog and rain photos. It looks like a great ride. Do you get 
lightening storms as part of your rain? If you get another ride, let us 
know, were here virtually all weekend! Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:33:35 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:

 Patrick,
 Thank you for coming up with great idea.
 I am enjoying other people's great photos.

 Today I packed sandwiches and coffee-brewing utensils in pannier bags, and 
 set out for a ride.
 It started raining earlier than expected, so I had to go back home, and 
 ended up eating lunch in my room.
 Well, rain-wet sceneries were beautiful, so not everything was bad.

 Here are my photos:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157645250656040/

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Re: [RBW] FS: The Hunq. But I'm keeping the Atlantis!

You're using cromulent on a list-serve of retro-grouches? You've got 
chutzpah! Grin.

(I had to look it up since I don't watch the Simpsons. See 
here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_the_Iconoclast#Embiggen_and_cromulent)

With abandon,
Patrick 

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 If it was my size this would be perfectly cromulent timing. I'm sorry to 
 hear about being laid off. I hope you're able to move it!

 -J


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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv 20 + Entmoot Pre-Event Photos

2014-07-13 Thread cyclotourist

I can't complain at all... it was really magical being up there, even for
that short time. But some regret mixed in, can't avoid that!

Cheers,
David

it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal





On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 4:08 AM, Takashi lachrymae...@gmail.com wrote:

 Too bad that you had to leave early, but at least you showed up and met
 great people!
 I'm dreaming of visiting USA and joining you Rivsters someday...

 Takashi


 2014年7月13日日曜日 14時01分47秒 UTC+9 cyclot...@gmail.com:

 With HUGE regret I had to leave the Bay Area before the festivities
 really began. I luckily was able to hang out with some great folks and see
 some of the most beautiful countryside I've ever laid eyes upon!

 I literally hopped on the Larkspur ferry as Grant and 11 others were
 riding off into the distance.

 Here are some photos of the happenings in Walnut Creek from Friday, and a
 little bit of riding the SoCal contingent did up around Point Reyes Station
 this morning.

 It was a GREAT time, glad I had the opportunity to reconnect with some
 good people, and more so, meet some other fine folks!

 Pics to prove I traveled 1,000 RT to make it happen: https://www.flickr.
 com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157645700299743

 Hopefully we won't have to wait 20 years to do this again!!!

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[RBW] Re: FS: The Hunq. But I'm keeping the Atlantis!

2014-07-13 Thread SS

I apologize, I didn't mean to say $6k would be fair, or that I paid that (I 
did not), only that it'd be sweet to get that .. I mean, while we're at it, 
10k would be sweet too, which has little to no effect on the cost of tea in 
china.  Know what I mean?  :)

On Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:40:15 PM UTC-7, Patrick Cronin wrote:

 Ok, I've got to request pictures of this thing. I've got paul/schmidt 
 hubs, lights, racks, and the works on my Hunq and I can't fathom what 6K 
 would look like sans Royce Gold 
 http://www.royceuk.co.uk/Racing-Gold-Carbon-Supreme/ components. Bore 
 me to death, please!

 Cheers,

 Patrick

 On Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:44:41 AM UTC-4, SS wrote:

 If there is zero interest in my used 58cm Hunq then I have to admit I'd 
 be pretty glad, deep down.  However.  I have a family, and have been laid 
 off, and have an Atlantis who won the coin toss fair and square, so I 
 halfheartedly offer my extra bike for sale.  I've pictures and can go on 
 for days about the components and all, but I won't bore anyone.  Feel free 
 to ask though. I'd like $6k, but, well, that's pretty optimistic, and we'll 
 hammer out vulgar discussions of that nature when appropriate.



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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: The Hunq. But I'm keeping the Atlantis!

2014-07-13 Thread S

Totally the plan.  I'm putting in an ostensibly honest effort, which I'll
be able to convincingly defend, and that'll be that.  Is it that obvious?


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 The good news is, if you don't get your asking price you can keep your
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[RBW] Re: Hunq or bomb

2014-07-13 Thread Ginz

My gut says go with the hunq. It would be nice to have the ability to swap 
wheels and tires with the saluki but with the money you save you can easily buy 
another used wheelset and tires. 

The price difference is so substantial that I wouldn't spend too long think 
about this. Of course, I own a hunq. :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq or bomb

2014-07-13 Thread Bill Lindsay

That is cool that people walking in today can get a Bombadil if they are 
determined to make that happen.  

What's your saddle height, MobileBill?

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Saturday, July 12, 2014 5:41:39 PM UTC-7, MobileBill wrote:

 yes, the second generation to be clear, though in the past, the 52s did 
 not have the diagonal tube, so maybe this is the third iteration

 On Saturday, July 12, 2014 5:35:14 PM UTC-5, Peter M wrote:

 I think the 2nd generation bombas is what he means. 
 On Jul 12, 2014 6:24 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm told the new Bombadil 52s have the rear tentacles.

 New Bombadil?  Official model, or unofficial - official model?  Like a 
 Legolas?

 On Saturday, July 12, 2014 12:28:52 PM UTC-7, MobileBill wrote:

 Spent many years thinking about it, but finally have set aside enough 
 money to consider a dedicated mountain bike/heavy load tourer. It would 
 supplement my Saluki, and actually get a lot of use in my work, which 
 often 
 involves surveys in national forests and other areas with many miles of 
 poor roads, paved, gravel and single track. And because of a new contract, 
 I'd need to purchase before the end of the year.
 Now I need some hand-holding.
 I've got almost enough money now to outfit a hunq complete, and I am 
 certain it's a great bike. But even though I'm snug as a bug on my 58 
 Saluki, Keven and I suspect I'd end up on a 51 Hunq, with 26-inch wheels. 
 Problem is there's already two 650b bikes in the family, and I've gotten 
 quite comfortable with that wheel size, have parts to boot, and there's a 
 lot more 650b products coming. I've also convinced myself that given my 
 long torso, the cockpit might be a bit small and just a little less 
 comfortable on a long haul.
 I'd be all over the Bombadil 52, which has the requisite 650b and 
 longer top tube and seems at least a slightly better fit for me, but I'm 
 not yet sure I can excuse myself for spending another grand (and it may 
 take a bit longer to accumulate that). 
 I doubt there's any difference in the sturdiness of these bikes. It all 
 comes down to fit and comfort over long distances and occasionally very 
 rough roads; I would hope sheer looks don't count for more than 10 
  percent, but I'm told the new Bombadil 52s have the rear tentacles.
 Those familiar with Hunqs and Boms, think I'll see a difference in 
 fit or ride?

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe Big Ben opinions

I have Big Bens on my Custom and, while I can't compare them to the Compass 
tries as I haven't tried them, I concur with Shoji in all regards about the 
Big Bens.  They handle a wide range of pressures and they are FUN!  Yes, 
roots disappear and I don't fear/need to pay nearly so much attention to 
potholes in the same way.  Plus, they come in a wonderful brown if that's 
your cup o' tea.

I second the request for a slightly wider compass 26 tire.

good luck and keep us posted.

RCW

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Re: [RBW] How many of your bikes will take the HAR?

2014-07-13 Thread john muhl

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

Bolt and spacer choices are what make rack installation fun! FWIW the HAR
fits on both the upper and lower eyelets on my Gunnar, without spacers.

It also turns out they work with the lower eyelets on the (Waterford built)
Atlantis it’s just the lower eyelets on the (Toyo built) Saluki that don’t
work.

On Friday, July 11, 2014 7:33:55 AM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:

Turns out they won’t work from the lower eyelets regardless of tilt. At
least not without replacing the bolts and adding spacers at the to all the
connections.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm pretty sure they intend you to use one irish strap for each bag. :-)

On Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:26:08 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:

Hey hey; one of my HAR bags came with a pair of Irish straps. Now to
round up something to strap the other side on with…and see how slanted they
end up being on the lower eyelets.

On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com
wrote:

For what it's worth, my Gunnar with the HAR installed, still fit on my
car's roof rack this morning, using a QR style mount on the fork tips.
Most lowrider racks prevent you from putting your bike on that type of
roof-rack mount.

On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 9:06:01 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Tying this HAR thread with the Enmoot bike thread.

IF I was able to go to the Entmoot, I'd be tempted to bring my
double-double, since so many of you will be on your Quickbeams. My
double-double has double fork tip eyelets and mid fork braze-ons, so I
went
ahead and set it up with my HAR. Of course I need to bag-match and wait
for the olive HAR panniers, but this is going to be a sweet stripped down
S24O setup. I used the trick of running a bolt from the inside of the
eyelet and a nylock nut holding the rack onto that post from the outside

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aJYGK52a7js/U74QpYj7UWI/B9s/AkcULL73iDI/s1600/IMG_3490.JPG

More Photos of the setup
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/sets/72157642798847383/

On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 7:38:56 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

For sure the HAR will connect to the lower eyelets. It just won't
be level, most likely. Not being level won't cause any problem besides
looking tilted.

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 9:08:24 PM UTC-7, john muhl wrote:

Both my Atlantis and Betty Foy have double eyelets but I did call
before ordering and was told (can’t remember who at RBW answered) that
mounting them to the lower eyelets (on my Saluki) should work just
fine.
They’re due to arrive on the 10th so I’ll find out for sure then.

On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.com
wrote:

The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on
mid-fork braze ons. Will it fit your bike?

Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets. If
you buy a brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne,
or
Atlantis, you are going to get double eyelet fork tips. If you buy a
Roadeo or a San Marcos, you'll get single eyelets.

I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while. It was an early
prototype that I talked them into letting me buy. For what it's
worth, I
paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I
share
that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be
sad.
Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out.
Only now
do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper
eyelets
and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them. Only my Bombadil
and my
Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons. I wish I
could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and
my
Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well. Oh well.

Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run
the HAR on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it. Not
the end
of the world but not ideal.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Caution: Even Taping Handlebars can be Dangerous!

Thanks all well-wishers!

Andy, I heartily concur! I will continue to work on my bike, get competent 
advice/help as I need it, and yes, play with knives as I have loved them my 
whole life. Nice article as well.  But I like the wait 4 to 10 minutes 
part the best; now, that woulda helped!

The one thing that bums me out is that I can't partake in my Virtual 
Entmoot until it stops throbbing.  It does so when I move my arm too much 
with the hand below my heart.  Plus any bumping it is not fun.  But I think 
I can start riding mid-week.

Doing lots better,
Liesl

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[RBW] Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

So, this happened: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14642857154/
Caption and details: Broke my chain (oh! THAT's what that popping was trying to 
tell me!) and discovered how littel Entriders like their roots colliding with 
asphault, even at slow speeds when cranking up a hill.

Could have been a LOT worse. I'm surprised it wasn't, actually.

Should I shift to 1/8 chain on the QB? How common is it to bust a chain 
cranking up a hill? Is that something solved by shifting to 1/8 chain (this was 
an 8 or 9 speed chain, and I have extra links, so can fix it short term). White 
Industries says the Dos Eno works with 1/8 chain so long as the chain line is 
good (I presume it is with Grant's designing).

Thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Patrick Moore

Tour winners use chains even thinner. Usually chains break because of a
connection error. Avoid those and wholly unforeseeable manufacturing errors
and  you should be fine. Me, I no longer break chains; I always use
masterlinks.

Glad it wasn't worse.


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 So, this happened: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14642857154/
 Caption and details: Broke my chain (oh! THAT’s what that popping was
 trying to tell me!) and discovered how littel Entriders like their roots
 colliding with asphault, even at slow speeds when cranking up a hill.

 Could have been a LOT worse. I’m surprised it wasn’t, actually.

 Should I shift to 1/8 chain on the QB? How common is it to bust a chain
 cranking up a hill? Is that something solved by shifting to 1/8 chain (this
 was an 8 or 9 speed chain, and I have extra links, so can fix it short
 term). White Industries says the Dos Eno works with 1/8 chain so long as
 the chain line is good (I presume it is with Grant’s designing).

 Thoughts?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Eric Daume

Agree with Patrick M., probably an installation issue. Sheldon Brown says
somewhere that modern 8/9/10 speed chains are actually stronger than single
speed chains, due to all the engineering that has to go into them to make
them strong enough to handle shifts under load.


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:

 Tour winners use chains even thinner. Usually chains break because of a
 connection error. Avoid those and wholly unforeseeable manufacturing errors
 and  you should be fine. Me, I no longer break chains; I always use
 masterlinks.

 Glad it wasn't worse.


 On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:15 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com
 wrote:

 So, this happened:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14642857154/
 Caption and details: Broke my chain (oh! THAT’s what that popping was
 trying to tell me!) and discovered how littel Entriders like their roots
 colliding with asphault, even at slow speeds when cranking up a hill.

 Could have been a LOT worse. I’m surprised it wasn’t, actually.

 Should I shift to 1/8 chain on the QB? How common is it to bust a chain
 cranking up a hill? Is that something solved by shifting to 1/8 chain (this
 was an 8 or 9 speed chain, and I have extra links, so can fix it short
 term). White Industries says the Dos Eno works with 1/8 chain so long as
 the chain line is good (I presume it is with Grant’s designing).

 Thoughts?

 With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

Good to hear. All I did with this chain was remove links to the right 
length, but I may have needed to add a link back in due to learning curve. 
So, no doubt user error.

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Re: [RBW] Possible Gear Addition for next S24

I'd carry it on the front. ☺
On Jul 12, 2014 5:42 AM, truegol...@att.net truegol...@att.net wrote:

 Just for fun consider this...

 Now what size front or rear rack should I get to carry this thing on my
 next S24?

 Or possibly a trailer?
 Well it does already have wheels, just tow it?

 Partially tongue in cheek but if the product does get on the market, a
 nice smoothie at the top of a long climb sounds pretty good.

 Probably way too heavy to be practical, perhaps?

 The possibilities...

 http://www.cnet.com/news/high-tech-cooler-boasts-bluetooth-blender/

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Re: [RBW] Re: Virtual Entmoot Ride Reports

Zack, Coconut Bill and I got together for a minimoot yesterday night, with
a Taco stop, a night ride up Tabor, an illegal descent, and a slow ramble
along laurelhurst pond.

https://flic.kr/p/okyJqF
On Jul 13, 2014 8:09 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Fantastic, Takashi! I'm not sure I get credit for the idea, but wherever
 it came from, it's a fun one!

 I love your fog and rain photos. It looks like a great ride. Do you get
 lightening storms as part of your rain? If you get another ride, let us
 know, were here virtually all weekend! Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:33:35 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:

 Patrick,
 Thank you for coming up with great idea.
 I am enjoying other people's great photos.

 Today I packed sandwiches and coffee-brewing utensils in pannier bags,
 and set out for a ride.
 It started raining earlier than expected, so I had to go back home, and
 ended up eating lunch in my room.
 Well, rain-wet sceneries were beautiful, so not everything was bad.

 Here are my photos:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157645250656040/

 Takashi

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Re: [RBW] Possible Gear Addition for next S24

Was that you I saw haulin' a mobile home on your General Chen's Chicken? 
Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:33:39 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I'd carry it on the front. ☺
 On Jul 12, 2014 5:42 AM, trueg...@att.net javascript: 
 trueg...@att.net javascript: wrote:

 Just for fun consider this...

 Now what size front or rear rack should I get to carry this thing on my 
 next S24?

 Or possibly a trailer?
 Well it does already have wheels, just tow it?

 Partially tongue in cheek but if the product does get on the market, a 
 nice smoothie at the top of a long climb sounds pretty good.

 Probably way too heavy to be practical, perhaps?

 The possibilities...

 http://www.cnet.com/news/high-tech-cooler-boasts-bluetooth-blender/

 Paul in Dallas

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Re: [RBW] Re: Virtual Entmoot Ride Reports

I love the pictures and the midnight mechanics! What makes a descent lack 
legality? A no bikes allowed trail?

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:45:18 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:

 Zack, Coconut Bill and I got together for a minimoot yesterday night, with 
 a Taco stop, a night ride up Tabor, an illegal descent, and a slow ramble 
 along laurelhurst pond. 

 https://flic.kr/p/okyJqF
 On Jul 13, 2014 8:09 AM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.com javascript: 
 wrote:

 Fantastic, Takashi! I'm not sure I get credit for the idea, but wherever 
 it came from, it's a fun one!

 I love your fog and rain photos. It looks like a great ride. Do you get 
 lightening storms as part of your rain? If you get another ride, let us 
 know, were here virtually all weekend! Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Sunday, July 13, 2014 7:33:35 AM UTC-6, Takashi wrote:

 Patrick,
 Thank you for coming up with great idea.
 I am enjoying other people's great photos.

 Today I packed sandwiches and coffee-brewing utensils in pannier bags, 
 and set out for a ride.
 It started raining earlier than expected, so I had to go back home, and 
 ended up eating lunch in my room.
 Well, rain-wet sceneries were beautiful, so not everything was bad.

 Here are my photos:
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157645250656040/

 Takashi

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[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

Chain repaired and on the Quickbeam. We'll see if I did a better job this 
time.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 13, 2014 11:59:51 AM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Good to hear. All I did with this chain was remove links to the right 
 length, but I may have needed to add a link back in due to learning curve. 
 So, no doubt user error.

 With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Steve Palincsar

If you removed links you had to rejoin the chain and it is probable that when 
ypu did so you screwed up.

Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

Good to hear. All I did with this chain was remove links to the right 
length, but I may have needed to add a link back in due to learning
curve. 
So, no doubt user error.

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[RBW] Re: Jamboree and Entmoot shirts and patches

Picked up swag form the Post today. That t-shirt really helps me look 
better! Thanks!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14644511221/

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[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread ted

Ouch. Sorry abt the toe.
As others point out, standard chains should be more than strong enough for 
any of us. I think the only reason to use 1/8in chain is so you can also go 
with 1/8in cog and chainring. The added surface area should make em last 
longer, and I like the look. No easy changing of gears with 1/8in stuff 
though.

On Sunday, July 13, 2014 10:15:15 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 So, this happened: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/14642857154/
 Caption and details: Broke my chain (oh! THAT’s what that popping was 
 trying to tell me!) and discovered how littel Entriders like their roots 
 colliding with asphault, even at slow speeds when cranking up a hill.

 Could have been a LOT worse. I’m surprised it wasn’t, actually.

 Should I shift to 1/8 chain on the QB? How common is it to bust a chain 
 cranking up a hill? Is that something solved by shifting to 1/8 chain (this 
 was an 8 or 9 speed chain, and I have extra links, so can fix it short 
 term). White Industries says the Dos Eno works with 1/8 chain so long as 
 the chain line is good (I presume it is with Grant’s designing).

 Thoughts?

 With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: knicker recommendations?

Anyone have a line on old corduroy (or even velvet!) mountaineering 
knickers?  Like Gaston Rebuffat 
(http://www.pinterest.com/pin/216102482092532557/) That's what I'd love. 
 But the old Woolrich ones that I managed to find are sized for 
six-footers, and I am wee.

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[RBW] Re: fs: 650b Wheelset + tires/tubes ~ Rich built!

2014-07-13 Thread Eric

SOLD!!

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[RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

Patrick, I'm so glad it wasn't worse on your toe!!!  Perhaps your toe and 
my finger should chat!  -RCW

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Re: [RBW] Re: Sign I need 1/8 Chain vs. 8-speed?

2014-07-13 Thread Robert Barr

That foot looks well used even before the incident.



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 my finger should chat!  -RCW

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[RBW] Re: How many of your bikes will take the HAR?

2014-07-13 Thread grant

*Apologies in advance to first-time Forum readers. This post is full of 
inside jargon  and references  you don't have to think about.*




















*Bill, I dunno how the prices worked out--could have been a drop in yen 
against the dollar, but more likely it was a good old fashioned Human 
Goofup, and we'll send you a fistful of Lip Ivo's to compensate. (Or may do 
better than that). We'll work it out privately. The Your victory is not my 
defeat attitude is rare and appreciated, but I am seriously mortified, no 
joke, and will make it good.Note from the future: Bill was thrilled with 
the deal, and on top of that has been forgiven for not showing up at the 
Entmoot!The Wisco-built 700C Hunqas don't fit the HAR, but we're working on 
it. The what we thought at the time was final design was so long ago that 
it was before the W-bilts. They have a diff crown and longer blades. The 
boss is the same distance from the crown dhoulder, but the flades are 
longer, which lowers the top eyes. Mark and Robert, the two guys least 
likely to use this rack, are nevertheless the cleverest, and have two 
solutions already.Also, gawdthisisnotfun, it's possible that a future 
version will have a hoop-mod feature that's slightly slicker than the 
current one---which doesn't require a hoop at all, according to Nitto. Why 
anyone would bolt on a hoop when it's not needed is beyond me, and in any 
case will likely be an add-on (not guaranteed) to the new HAR. This is 
independent of any hoop developed for HAR-1.Also, you know the upside down 
mushrooms that form the lowermost metal on the HAR (HAR-1) ? Their purpose 
is to make it easier and more secure to lash on a load without the HAB. 
They're anchor points for bungee cords or whatever strap or cord you might 
have. So you could use them to secure some favorite pots  pans that won't 
fit in the HAB. Although they're rounded, there's still a remote 
plausibility that over time their edges will saw slashes in the lower 
sleeve of the HAB, and so we have ordered some fancy rubber 'doms for them. 
On my own HAB I just covered them with bar tape, which is 100 percent as 
good, but Mark tends to think I'm a mickeymous slob when it comes to this 
kind of solution, and since it is his design, we have the rubbers coming. 
Then we'll do a search for who has ordered, and will mail them out with 
superb instructions (and post on web).Also, the HAR can easily be made to 
fit on some lower-rear eye forks, although it requires some tilting, which 
improves aerodynamics by transforming the upper corner into a windcheetah, 
like the prow of a ship in water. We don't go off half-cocked on this 
stuff, but it's hard to account for all contingencies. We're sure t he 
HARHAB 'bo is AOK on all two-eye RIV forks with the front braze-on EXCEPT 
the W-built 700C HUNQAs. It's BOK on most RIVforks with frontal eyelets, 
but requires a spacer to the rack clears the fork blade...and you're 
rewarded for your I don't  need no plug-n-play efforts with 
microinfinitessimally improved aerodynamics. Now...back to thinking about 
the Clem Smith Jr. ...(we can attach files now? Good to know...)*

On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 11:07:38 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 The Hub Area Rack fits best on an eyelet above the fork tip and on 
 mid-fork braze ons.  Will it fit your bike? 

 Most current Riv models have fork tips with double eyelets.  If you buy a 
 brand new A Homer Hilsen, Hunqapillar, Cheviut, Hillborne, or Atlantis, you 
 are going to get double eyelet fork tips.  If you buy a Roadeo or a San 
 Marcos, you'll get single eyelets.  

 I have a Hub Area Rack, have had it for a while.  It was an early 
 prototype that I talked them into letting me buy.  For what it's worth, I 
 paid a fair bit more for mine that you guys are paying now, but I share 
 that as a reason for you to be happy, not as a reason for me to be sad. 
  Anyhow, now that there are bags for it, I've pulled it back out.  Only now 
 do I realize that my old (2009) Hillborne does not have the upper eyelets 
 and my old (2010) Hilsen also doesn't have them.  Only my Bombadil and my 
 Gunnar doublespeed has upper eyelets and mid fork braze ons.  I wish I 
 could snap my fingers and have upper eyelets appear on my Hilsen and my 
 Hillborne so I could run this rack on those bikes as well.  Oh well.  

 Anyhow, as a workaround, it looks like it would be possible to run the HAR 
 on the lower eyelets, but it might have a tilt to it.  Not the end of the 
 world but not ideal.  


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Re: [RBW] Possible Gear Addition for next S24

A double wide, even!


On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 Was that you I saw haulin' a mobile home on your General Chen's Chicken?
 Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Sunday, July 13, 2014 12:33:39 PM UTC-6, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I'd carry it on the front. ☺
 On Jul 12, 2014 5:42 AM, trueg...@att.net trueg...@att.net wrote:

 Just for fun consider this...

 Now what size front or rear rack should I get to carry this thing on my
 next S24?

 Or possibly a trailer?
 Well it does already have wheels, just tow it?

 Partially tongue in cheek but if the product does get on the market, a
 nice smoothie at the top of a long climb sounds pretty good.

 Probably way too heavy to be practical, perhaps?

 The possibilities...

 http://www.cnet.com/news/high-tech-cooler-boasts-bluetooth-blender/

 Paul in Dallas

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