Re: [RBW] Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.
Aw come on, Stonehog, the sun'll come out again! :) On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 10:58 PM, stonehog stone...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, put me down for 10 Edward Abbey bandanna's, Phil! Brian Hanson Seattle, WA (Heart is in Moab...) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug
Yep I do the same no problems here. -Hugh LA California -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
este - Jan Heine's photo http://www.compasscycle.com/images/tires_wipers3.jpg I've deflected sticks, rocks, piles of leaves and twigs, scraped mud - they work great.. Was riding with some friends after a good summer monsoon ran-off mud all over a paved city greenway that follows a creek bottom across town. Everyone we saw through the morning said, oh, your bike is not going to stay that clean for long. The fact is, all the fenderless muddy people were just getting started, and we had already ridden 18 miles. We did have to stop frequently for my buddy to knock mud out of his fenders, but I had no mud in my fenders - the tire wipers kept it out. Obviously, they only work with slick tires. On Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:30:00 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Are your tire scrapers installed backwards? Can't they be forced under the fender? On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:05:10 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: here's the best safety option for Honjo fenders - tire wipers - Compass sells them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280024.jpg You can see them at the bottom of my fenders. They keep Everything except dust and water out of the fenders - they even scrape mud (within reason). No sticks, no rocks, no chert - they reject it all. As far as clearance goes, if you can see air, it's too much, and the fenders won't be able to do their job. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaP3150005.jpg On Monday, October 13, 2014 10:46:09 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
should have included this link - http://www.compasscycle.com/tires_wipers_700.html On Friday, October 17, 2014 5:53:40 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote: este - Jan Heine's photo http://www.compasscycle.com/images/tires_wipers3.jpg I've deflected sticks, rocks, piles of leaves and twigs, scraped mud - they work great.. Was riding with some friends after a good summer monsoon ran-off mud all over a paved city greenway that follows a creek bottom across town. Everyone we saw through the morning said, oh, your bike is not going to stay that clean for long. The fact is, all the fenderless muddy people were just getting started, and we had already ridden 18 miles. We did have to stop frequently for my buddy to knock mud out of his fenders, but I had no mud in my fenders - the tire wipers kept it out. Obviously, they only work with slick tires. On Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:30:00 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Are your tire scrapers installed backwards? Can't they be forced under the fender? On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:05:10 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: here's the best safety option for Honjo fenders - tire wipers - Compass sells them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280024.jpg You can see them at the bottom of my fenders. They keep Everything except dust and water out of the fenders - they even scrape mud (within reason). No sticks, no rocks, no chert - they reject it all. As far as clearance goes, if you can see air, it's too much, and the fenders won't be able to do their job. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaP3150005.jpg On Monday, October 13, 2014 10:46:09 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
The rule of thumb for metal fenders is tire size plus 18 mm as a minimum. This allows 4 mm for each rolled edge and 10 mm of clearance. If you can go somewhat bigger than that, you should. The added space gives you the option of bigger tires in the future and reduces the chance of something jamming between the tire fender. 32-42 is pretty wide range,so I would suggest 60 mm fenders if they will fit. Honjos are elegant. VO fenders are also nice. Bertoud fenders are the sturdiest. Properly installed they should last a long time, so a few dollars more or less is probably not the best criterium. Michael On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:46:09 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Winter Riding Pants
It's Indian Summer here in northern NE, but the temperature is poised to drop and I am thinking about winter riding pants. The RBW MUSA pants look very light weight. I see a nice looking pair of wool blend at makersandriders.com. I have tights and country ski pants but would like something I could walk into a restaurant for lunch with friends. Would like to hear from the experience of other cold weather riders. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
Of course what's cold is relative to each person , that said, I love Outdoor Research Equinox Pants . They are also a lightweight supple brushed nylon, but instead of relying on velcro externally, they have hidden drawcords around the the inside of the ankle . I wear them mostly as knickers by just pulling them up below the knees, or I can wear them as regular pants of course , though I need some sort of straps to keep them absolutely clear of the rings. I much prefer the pants of my choice and using anything to strap them as opposed to a certain pair with velcro straps, which to me always looks weird . The main thing though, is these are regular looking outdoor/travel pants . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
my vote is still the MUSA pants with merino wool base layer, but of course, cold here is 40s. On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:28:07 AM UTC-5, Michael Hechmer wrote: It's Indian Summer here in northern NE, but the temperature is poised to drop and I am thinking about winter riding pants. The RBW MUSA pants look very light weight. I see a nice looking pair of wool blend at makersandriders.com. I have tights and country ski pants but would like something I could walk into a restaurant for lunch with friends. Would like to hear from the experience of other cold weather riders. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold comes from on the bike. It doesn't take much of an insulate layer to retain the heat with a wind shell over it. Also highly breathable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I'm with Ron, I rode down to about 20deg regularly in musa pants and Patagonia silk weight long underwear... I added rain pants if it was wet or windy. I'm not planning on changing that up this year. Those who riding pants on the op's link are nice looking though! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
-20F??? I don't there's any bike pants that could get me out riding in those sorts of temperatures. On Oct 17, 2014 8:54 AM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold comes from on the bike. It doesn't take much of an insulate layer to retain the heat with a wind shell over it. Also highly breathable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
I think that is the rear tire, shot from the non-drive side of the bike. You can see the chain in the backround. On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:53:40 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: este - Jan Heine's photo http://www.compasscycle.com/images/tires_wipers3.jpg I've deflected sticks, rocks, piles of leaves and twigs, scraped mud - they work great.. Was riding with some friends after a good summer monsoon ran-off mud all over a paved city greenway that follows a creek bottom across town. Everyone we saw through the morning said, oh, your bike is not going to stay that clean for long. The fact is, all the fenderless muddy people were just getting started, and we had already ridden 18 miles. We did have to stop frequently for my buddy to knock mud out of his fenders, but I had no mud in my fenders - the tire wipers kept it out. Obviously, they only work with slick tires. On Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:30:00 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Are your tire scrapers installed backwards? Can't they be forced under the fender? On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:05:10 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: here's the best safety option for Honjo fenders - tire wipers - Compass sells them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280024.jpg You can see them at the bottom of my fenders. They keep Everything except dust and water out of the fenders - they even scrape mud (within reason). No sticks, no rocks, no chert - they reject it all. As far as clearance goes, if you can see air, it's too much, and the fenders won't be able to do their job. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaP3150005.jpg On Monday, October 13, 2014 10:46:09 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
I’ve read Jan’s article and various emails and comments about fender clearance, but I haven’t seen anyone address the possibility that tight fender clearances improve safety by helping to *exclude* objects from being caught between the fender and tire. If I have 1cm of clearance (about a half and inch), then objects (twigs, branches, etc.) that are that size can easily slip between the wheel and fender. Wouldn’t a tighter clearance—say, 1/4 inch—keep a half-inch-size twig/branch out? Personally, I would much rather deal with a 1/4-inch twig than one that is twice the size and much harder to break and therefore much more likely to cause a fender catastrophe. As Jan mentions in his BQ article, most of the classic randonneur machines had very tight fender clearances. Perhaps this is one reason? Am I off base here? —Eric N On Oct 17, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: The rule of thumb for metal fenders is tire size plus 18 mm as a minimum. This allows 4 mm for each rolled edge and 10 mm of clearance. If you can go somewhat bigger than that, you should. The added space gives you the option of bigger tires in the future and reduces the chance of something jamming between the tire fender. 32-42 is pretty wide range,so I would suggest 60 mm fenders if they will fit. Honjos are elegant. VO fenders are also nice. Bertoud fenders are the sturdiest. Properly installed they should last a long time, so a few dollars more or less is probably not the best criterium. Michael On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:46:09 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants, full -length base layer and thicker crew socks. What's very typical here is starting the morning in the low 40s and pushing low 70s by afternoon. With that expectation I use my rando bag for storage and may pop in a public restroom to swap layers. I always carry shorty socks in case the knee socks become too warm. On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:54:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold comes from on the bike. It doesn't take much of an insulate layer to retain the heat with a wind shell over it. Also highly breathable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
20 deg F, not -20 deg F... below 20 I'm not riding to work usually. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants, full -length base layer and thicker crew socks. What's very typical here is starting the morning in the low 40s and pushing low 70s by afternoon. With that expectation I use my rando bag for storage and may pop in a public restroom to swap layers. I always carry shorty socks in case the knee socks become too warm. On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:54:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold comes from on the bike. It doesn't take much of an insulate layer to retain the heat with a wind shell over it. Also highly breathable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/D7BasfFodNw/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I commute 8 miles each way wearing MUSA pants over wool briefs and MUSA shorts down to about 26 degrees before I need to add some light weight tights underneath. On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:46:22 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants, full -length base layer and thicker crew socks. What's very typical here is starting the morning in the low 40s and pushing low 70s by afternoon. With that expectation I use my rando bag for storage and may pop in a public restroom to swap layers. I always carry shorty socks in case the knee socks become too warm. On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:54:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold comes from on the bike. It doesn't take much of an insulate layer to retain the heat with a wind shell over it. Also highly breathable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I used to commute to -10F. Jeans with rainpants, wool sweater with shell. Leather mittens. Wool sox inside breadbags inside regular cycling shoes. Balaclava and sometimes goggles under the helmet. I'd start out warm, get cool in the feet, warm up in the feet and have moderately cold hands by the time I got to work 8 miles later. Mittens were a big improvement on gloves, but limited the kind of bike I could ride, obv. At the time I had a Trek 620 with MTB bars and an AW hub with a trigger shifter. On Friday, October 17, 2014 11:00:42 AM UTC-4, WETH wrote: I commute 8 miles each way wearing MUSA pants over wool briefs and MUSA shorts down to about 26 degrees before I need to add some light weight tights underneath. On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:46:22 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants, full -length base layer and thicker crew socks. What's very typical here is starting the morning in the low 40s and pushing low 70s by afternoon. With that expectation I use my rando bag for storage and may pop in a public restroom to swap layers. I always carry shorty socks in case the knee socks become too warm. On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:54:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold comes from on the bike. It doesn't take much of an insulate layer to retain the heat with a wind shell over it. Also highly breathable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
You're way smarter than me, Jim. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
I find that the Surly/Riv overlap is pretty small. It seems like only 3 Surly models have a comparable Riv analog. Much of Surly's line is more or less unique to Surly, or was unique when first introduced. That said, the two brands share a lot of similar ideas about versatility, tire clearance, etc. And I never thought I'd see Surly do 650B, but now they are coming out with a 650B Straggler (down to 38 cm frames!!!). I see a lot here and elsewhere about Surly's marketing rubbing people the wrong way. I don't read many magazines or read many bike blogs that include ads, so I'm missing most of their formal marketing. Somebody told me awhile back that Riv appeals to the misfits of cycling, and I think that's right (and not in an insulting way). Much of GP's past writing, which reflects many Riv owners' attitudes in my experience, is about feeling alienated by modern cycling trends, and about digging in to resist dumb things that are done in the name of innovation or the perception of improved performance. Surly also appeals to alienated misfits, but in a different way. The Surly image seems to be more about having, um, unorthodox cycling needs (that are somehow related to drinking beer under bridges and having lots of tattoos) and designing a whole new category around it. While Riv frequently gets criticized for being stuck in the past, Surly frequently gets criticized for pushing products on us before we knew that we needed them. In the end, Surly and Riv, in their own ways, pull the broader bike industry in a better direction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug
With this new bike and big tire clearances, there will have to be a new fender -= P60 longboard? Liking that 59 Clem, but wondering about overlap with my Sam, Edwin On Friday, October 10, 2014 8:22:27 AM UTC-5, Leslie wrote: It's up: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/99627421939/clemshots-and-impressions -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I've got several pairs of knickers which between them take care of all cool-to-cold weather riding. 2 pairs of Nashbar 2/3 pants made from good, tight nylon fabric are good with socks (or in my case, just ordered, Nashbar leg warmers) down to 40F or even lower. Then I have 2 pairs of knickers home made from wool dress pants with the material cut from the leg used to line the front from waist to cuffs. These, over tights, are good down to the teens, which is as cold as I care to ride. Knickers are a great option because you can mix and match layers easily. And then I have tights in two different thicknesses; and also a pair of MUSA riding pants, first version. And finally, I have a pair of Rick's hemp knickers which are good when the temperatures are between 50 and 60 F. I fact, I have too many leg options, but I can live with that. * Next question: what about your *ears and neck?* Faux Peruvian caps with earflaps from Target are great if odd looking; Swobo and other cycling specific caps of wool with lesser earflaps are good down to 40F or so, but the flaps ride up and expose the ear tips. Balaklavas are a hassle, IMO and I use them only for long rides in very cold weather. Neck: a good clan Stuart wool scarf cut into quarters and hemmed tuck neatly into jersey collars. Fleece neck gaiters work too, but are bulky. Wool neck gaiters irritate my neck On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:46 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants, full -length base layer and thicker crew socks. What's very typical here is starting the morning in the low 40s and pushing low 70s by afternoon. With that expectation I use my rando bag for storage and may pop in a public restroom to swap layers. I always carry shorty socks in case the knee socks become too warm. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
Brian, if you search tire savers images, you can see examples of them mounted in both rotation directions. They work great this way, they eject Everything except dust and water from the fenders, and there is no physical way they could turn under the fender. Regards On Friday, October 17, 2014 9:41:09 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: I think that is the rear tire, shot from the non-drive side of the bike. You can see the chain in the backround. On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:53:40 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: este - Jan Heine's photo http://www.compasscycle.com/images/tires_wipers3.jpg I've deflected sticks, rocks, piles of leaves and twigs, scraped mud - they work great.. Was riding with some friends after a good summer monsoon ran-off mud all over a paved city greenway that follows a creek bottom across town. Everyone we saw through the morning said, oh, your bike is not going to stay that clean for long. The fact is, all the fenderless muddy people were just getting started, and we had already ridden 18 miles. We did have to stop frequently for my buddy to knock mud out of his fenders, but I had no mud in my fenders - the tire wipers kept it out. Obviously, they only work with slick tires. On Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:30:00 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Are your tire scrapers installed backwards? Can't they be forced under the fender? On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:05:10 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: here's the best safety option for Honjo fenders - tire wipers - Compass sells them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280024.jpg You can see them at the bottom of my fenders. They keep Everything except dust and water out of the fenders - they even scrape mud (within reason). No sticks, no rocks, no chert - they reject it all. As far as clearance goes, if you can see air, it's too much, and the fenders won't be able to do their job. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaP3150005.jpg On Monday, October 13, 2014 10:46:09 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
Andy: what sorts of socks? Thick ones? If so, how did you get these into a pair of shoes that fit in the summer? I've heard that keeping your torso warm (where all the essential organs are) will prevent warming blood from being skinted to your extremities. Not sure if this agrees with my experience, though. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro marchantshap...@gmail.com wrote: I used to commute to -10F. Jeans with rainpants, wool sweater with shell. Leather mittens. Wool sox inside breadbags inside regular cycling shoes. Balaclava and sometimes goggles under the helmet. I'd start out warm, get cool in the feet, warm up in the feet and have moderately cold hands by the time I got to work 8 miles later. Mittens were a big improvement on gloves, but limited the kind of bike I could ride, obv. At the time I had a Trek 620 with MTB bars and an AW hub with a trigger shifter. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I do a lot of winter riding in Wyoming these days, but on a snow bike. I found some fantastic pants by Patagonia called guide pants. Looks like they've changed a slight bit since I got mine a couple of years ago, but this is close. Without looking through the entire website, there might be some similar but equally good options, too: http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-alpine-guide-pants?p=83950-0pcc=1128 These are great all the way into the really low, sub-zero temperatures. Wind and moisture resistant, but not too hot for riding. They have elastic at the bottom that keeps them out of your chain. They're incredibly comfortable, stretchy, non-binding, non-chafing material. They're kind of expensive, but not for what they are and for how well made they are. The only problem is that, like my MUSA knickers and Pants in warmer, transitional weather, I pretty much choose to live in them all the time - not just when I'm riding - so I'm afraid I'm going to wear them out. BEST ACTIVE WINTER PANTS I'VE EVER OWNED. On Friday, October 17, 2014 7:28:07 AM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote: It's Indian Summer here in northern NE, but the temperature is poised to drop and I am thinking about winter riding pants. The RBW MUSA pants look very light weight. I see a nice looking pair of wool blend at makersandriders.com. I have tights and country ski pants but would like something I could walk into a restaurant for lunch with friends. Would like to hear from the experience of other cold weather riders. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
Patrick: I don't recall the name right now...I'm wearing through my last few pair. Ah. DeFeet Blaze, IIRC. Not especially high, but thick in the right places. Perfect for me, and they likely fit because since I have size 13*B* (very narrow) feet, even size 13 cycling shoes tend to be a moderately loose fit. On Friday, October 17, 2014 11:55:38 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: Andy: what sorts of socks? Thick ones? If so, how did you get these into a pair of shoes that fit in the summer? I've heard that keeping your torso warm (where all the essential organs are) will prevent warming blood from being skinted to your extremities. Not sure if this agrees with my experience, though. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro marchan...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I used to commute to -10F. Jeans with rainpants, wool sweater with shell. Leather mittens. Wool sox inside breadbags inside regular cycling shoes. Balaclava and sometimes goggles under the helmet. I'd start out warm, get cool in the feet, warm up in the feet and have moderately cold hands by the time I got to work 8 miles later. Mittens were a big improvement on gloves, but limited the kind of bike I could ride, obv. At the time I had a Trek 620 with MTB bars and an AW hub with a trigger shifter. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
Thanks; good reviews from the quick google I just did. In fact, I may have a pair of these myself, as I came into a stash of very lightly used DeFeet and Icebreaker socks sold on one list or another. I gather that their warmth comes from their tight weave as much as from their bulk. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro marchantshap...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick: I don't recall the name right now...I'm wearing through my last few pair. Ah. DeFeet Blaze, IIRC. Not especially high, but thick in the right places. Perfect for me, and they likely fit because since I have size 13 *B* (very narrow) feet, even size 13 cycling shoes tend to be a moderately loose fit. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
Speaking of winter riding pants, I have a NOS pair of very thick wool army pants from some European country that have been sitting in my extras bin for 10 years or so. Never worn by me. ~34 waist and ~32 inseam, but I can check. Make offer. Shipping from 87120. Photos coming. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:56 AM, iamkeith keithhar...@gmail.com wrote: I do a lot of winter riding in Wyoming these days, but on a snow bike. I found some fantastic pants by Patagonia called guide pants. Looks like they've changed a slight bit since I got mine a couple of years ago, but this is close. Without looking through the entire website, there might be some similar but equally good options, too: http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-alpine-guide-pants?p=83950-0pcc=1128 These are great all the way into the really low, sub-zero temperatures. Wind and moisture resistant, but not too hot for riding. They have elastic at the bottom that keeps them out of your chain. They're incredibly comfortable, stretchy, non-binding, non-chafing material. They're kind of expensive, but not for what they are and for how well made they are. The only problem is that, like my MUSA knickers and Pants in warmer, transitional weather, I pretty much choose to live in them all the time - not just when I'm riding - so I'm afraid I'm going to wear them out. BEST ACTIVE WINTER PANTS I'VE EVER OWNED. On Friday, October 17, 2014 7:28:07 AM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote: It's Indian Summer here in northern NE, but the temperature is poised to drop and I am thinking about winter riding pants. The RBW MUSA pants look very light weight. I see a nice looking pair of wool blend at makersandriders.com. I have tights and country ski pants but would like something I could walk into a restaurant for lunch with friends. Would like to hear from the experience of other cold weather riders. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Vereinigte Staaten * * Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.* * Nothing outside you can give you any place, he said. You needn't to look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where in your time and your body can they be?* * Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you? he cried. Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I don't think Deac puts on shoes until 10 below On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:25:36 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: You're way smarter than me, Jim. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
It's funny about Surly's image, though. Surly has an enormous presence in the long distance bike touring community. If you ride one of the big Adventure Cycling routes, maybe one in four or one in five bikes is a Surly LHT: you find them at every campsite. And most of these riders do not seem interested in drinking beer under bridges. It's just word of mouth, I think, that a Surly LHT is a great touring bike, and so are the Trolls and Ogres. People don't buy into the image-- they just like the bikes. Same with Mrs. Thill, who was afraid of riding on the road, but had a big grin on her face when she rode a Pugsley, wasn't it? That story struck a nerve with me, because she represents a lot of women lack confidence in riding, and a solid Pugsley makes a person feel solid and safe when riding so they can enjoy the ride. I don't think Surly's bad-boy advertising image is much like Riv's retro-curmudgeon image, but I think their bikes tend to appeal to a lot of the same people: people who want their bikes to do work instead of having to be babied. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I find that the Surly/Riv overlap is pretty small. It seems like only 3 Surly models have a comparable Riv analog. Much of Surly's line is more or less unique to Surly, or was unique when first introduced. That said, the two brands share a lot of similar ideas about versatility, tire clearance, etc. And I never thought I'd see Surly do 650B, but now they are coming out with a 650B Straggler (down to 38 cm frames!!!). I see a lot here and elsewhere about Surly's marketing rubbing people the wrong way. I don't read many magazines or read many bike blogs that include ads, so I'm missing most of their formal marketing. Somebody told me awhile back that Riv appeals to the misfits of cycling, and I think that's right (and not in an insulting way). Much of GP's past writing, which reflects many Riv owners' attitudes in my experience, is about feeling alienated by modern cycling trends, and about digging in to resist dumb things that are done in the name of innovation or the perception of improved performance. Surly also appeals to alienated misfits, but in a different way. The Surly image seems to be more about having, um, unorthodox cycling needs (that are somehow related to drinking beer under bridges and having lots of tattoos) and designing a whole new category around it. While Riv frequently gets criticized for being stuck in the past, Surly frequently gets criticized for pushing products on us before we knew that we needed them. In the end, Surly and Riv, in their own ways, pull the broader bike industry in a better direction. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Seat post clamp bolt snapped
It could very well be that the threads on the seat post bolt were damaged and that they had galled(?) in the nut so you couldn't tighten it properly. That would explain that the bolt broke when you were releasing it and normally very little force is needed. If this is the case you only need a new bolt and nut, properly greased. Johan Larsson, Sweden -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
My rule is if they don't rub, they fit. On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:46:09 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I picked up a pair of Mammut soft shell pants off the sale rack at REI last year. They are made of a Schoeller fabric that is inherently water resistant and look remarkably normal with jean-style pockets, belt loops and snap/zip front. No provision to snug the cuff for riding, but my velcro reflector band makes that a moot issue. Not too hot once indoors either. These soft shell pants are the ticket for opening up the temperature range for this next level gear after MUSA pants are deemed too thin. Despite the very normal looking pants, I draw more stares for coming in from the cold, off a bicycle, than for any clothing I'm wearing. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh On Friday, October 17, 2014 9:28:07 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: It's Indian Summer here in northern NE, but the temperature is poised to drop and I am thinking about winter riding pants. The RBW MUSA pants look very light weight. I see a nice looking pair of wool blend at makersandriders.com. I have tights and country ski pants but would like something I could walk into a restaurant for lunch with friends. Would like to hear from the experience of other cold weather riders. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
When it gets cold and wet enough in the Pacific NW (say like next month), I pull out the old military wool surplus pants. The pair I've owned for about 7 years came from the local army surplus for like $10, probably (East) German origin. Good thick wool that is great for cold and wet. I had them hemmed and made into knickers. After all those years I've finally worn them out, so found another pair for about the same price and am going to convert to knickers as well! I've seen several European winter wool knickers at the surplus and online, but unfortunately I've never found any in my size. But they are out there, and rarely more than $40. yours, Shawn http://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/ http://groups.google.com/group/urban-adventure-league-portland http://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/urbanadventureleaguepdx/ http://bikesspottedpdx.tumblr.com/ Un-electronic mail goes here: P O Box 14185, Portland OR 97293-0185 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: 26 rims and wheel, 650B synergy rim
I have 26 rims: - 32h Ritchey Girder offset rear rim. New. Shiny black, machined brake track. - 40h Mavic 217. New, gray anodized. Eyelets go all the way through the rim. - 32h Used, some tape residue to clean off the side and edge. Dull silver (I have spokes and Chris King front hub to build this rim). - 32h Alex Xrims S2. Never built. Matte black, no eyelets. $15 each, shipped, or $50 shipped for all 4. 26 American Classic disc wheel with a Stan's ZTR 355 rim. Black. Smooth. Skewer included. Taped for tubeless. Blue nipples. 24mm outside width. $75 shipped 650B silver Velocity Synergy rim. 32h? (I'm at work) $15 shipped. I'd trade toward Velocity Blunt SL / P35 rims. Thanks! Philip -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
On 10/17/2014 12:10 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: It's funny about Surly's image, though. Surly has an enormous presence in the long distance bike touring community. If you ride one of the big Adventure Cycling routes, maybe one in four or one in five bikes is a Surly LHT: you find them at every campsite. And most of these riders do not seem interested in drinking beer under bridges. It's just word of mouth, I think, that a Surly LHT is a great touring bike, and so are the Trolls and Ogres. People don't buy into the image-- they just like the bikes. Who else (i.e., large manufacturers with a presence in local bike shops) is even making touring bikes -- not cyclocross bikes -- these days? Used to be, the big names were Cannondale Trek but Cannondale left the touring bike market years ago, and Trek downgraded their touring bike and pushed it off into the commuter catalog. Surly's the only major presence in local bike shops. What are the rest, REI Novarras? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
My experience agrees with Anne's that the LHT is probably the most common bike model seen on bike touring routes (Cross-check is also common). Jamis and Novara, and perhaps others, also market some of their bikes for touring-ish activities. Also, I usually encounter some European person or Euro-phile American who's riding a Rohloff-equipped Tout Terrain or Thorn or similar. But most tourists I've encountered aren't riding proper touring bikes. Most are riding cross bikes and hybrids and road bikes and old 10-speeds and MTBs and whatever else they can strap their stuff to. On Friday, October 17, 2014 1:31:14 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 10/17/2014 12:10 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: It's funny about Surly's image, though. Surly has an enormous presence in the long distance bike touring community. If you ride one of the big Adventure Cycling routes, maybe one in four or one in five bikes is a Surly LHT: you find them at every campsite. And most of these riders do not seem interested in drinking beer under bridges. It's just word of mouth, I think, that a Surly LHT is a great touring bike, and so are the Trolls and Ogres. People don't buy into the image-- they just like the bikes. Who else (i.e., large manufacturers with a presence in local bike shops) is even making touring bikes -- not cyclocross bikes -- these days? Used to be, the big names were Cannondale Trek but Cannondale left the touring bike market years ago, and Trek downgraded their touring bike and pushed it off into the commuter catalog. Surly's the only major presence in local bike shops. What are the rest, REI Novarras? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: 26 rims and wheel, 650B synergy rim
Philip, I'll buy the 650b Synergy if available still. Contact me at daban...@gmail.com. Apologies to list, on mobile, unable to send PMs. David -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Surly after Riv
There was a Jamis booth at our recent San Antonio Siclovia. I was very disappointed they only brought out towne fixies - I wanted to see one of their touring bikes. On Friday, October 17, 2014 1:48:00 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: My experience agrees with Anne's that the LHT is probably the most common bike model seen on bike touring routes (Cross-check is also common). Jamis and Novara, and perhaps others, also market some of their bikes for touring-ish activities. Also, I usually encounter some European person or Euro-phile American who's riding a Rohloff-equipped Tout Terrain or Thorn or similar. But most tourists I've encountered aren't riding proper touring bikes. Most are riding cross bikes and hybrids and road bikes and old 10-speeds and MTBs and whatever else they can strap their stuff to. On Friday, October 17, 2014 1:31:14 PM UTC-5, Steve Palincsar wrote: On 10/17/2014 12:10 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: It's funny about Surly's image, though. Surly has an enormous presence in the long distance bike touring community. If you ride one of the big Adventure Cycling routes, maybe one in four or one in five bikes is a Surly LHT: you find them at every campsite. And most of these riders do not seem interested in drinking beer under bridges. It's just word of mouth, I think, that a Surly LHT is a great touring bike, and so are the Trolls and Ogres. People don't buy into the image-- they just like the bikes. Who else (i.e., large manufacturers with a presence in local bike shops) is even making touring bikes -- not cyclocross bikes -- these days? Used to be, the big names were Cannondale Trek but Cannondale left the touring bike market years ago, and Trek downgraded their touring bike and pushed it off into the commuter catalog. Surly's the only major presence in local bike shops. What are the rest, REI Novarras? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
I don't buy things based on a company's advertising or perceived attitude. The only thing that matters to me is is it what I really really want ? ! ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
how can you tell what you want if they don't tell you what you want?! :) On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 12:09 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: I don't buy things based on a company's advertising or perceived attitude. The only thing that matters to me is is it what I really really want ? ! ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Clem on the Blug
On Friday, October 10, 2014 10:37:46 AM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: I think this would be the *perfect *replacement for the ubiquitous LHT. In my experience, most people w/ a Trucker use it as a commuter/all-rounder rather than a touring bike. This would be a better looking if not better performing alternative!!! The Clem looks like a nice bike but no way would I trade my LHT for one. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTT: My 100mm Technomic Stem for your 80mm Technomic Stem
Looking to shorten my stem a little bit. I went too big, and now my seat is all the way forward, and I just feel all...stretched out. I bought it new in August. It's in excellent shape. No scuffs and minimal (read: hardly noticeable) insertion marks going no farther up than about 1 cm from the minimum insertion mark. If anyone has an 80mm stem I could trade you for, I'd sure appreciate it. Only thing to note is: my 100mm is currently on my only bike, so you'd have to be able to wait until I receive the new stem and swap it out before I can ship the 100mm to you. Let me know if that would work for anyone. - Mike K. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
On 10/17/2014 03:09 PM, Garth wrote: I don't buy things based on a company's advertising or perceived attitude. The only thing that matters to me is is it what I really really want ? ! ! And yet, if a company's advertising/perceived attitude is strong enough, bystanders will associate anyone displaying or using one of their products with the attitudes portrayed in the advertising, and you might not necessarily want yourself identified with those attitudes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
I was responding to Deacon Patrick who did mention negative 20 Fahrenheit. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: 20 deg F, not -20 deg F... below 20 I'm not riding to work usually. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants, full -length base layer and thicker crew socks. What's very typical here is starting the morning in the low 40s and pushing low 70s by afternoon. With that expectation I use my rando bag for storage and may pop in a public restroom to swap layers. I always carry shorty socks in case the knee socks become too warm. On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:54:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold comes from on the bike. It doesn't take much of an insulate layer to retain the heat with a wind shell over it. Also highly breathable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/D7BasfFodNw/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Surly after Riv
The moment I cater to what other people think of who/what I associate with , I become their slave . All my life I have associated with whomever and whatever I desire , not without discord of course, but if I don't listen to and trust myself and my desires I imprison myself to their wants and desires which are fickle and always changing and never satisfied . Endless h e double toothpick ! It's much funner being Free ! On Friday, October 17, 2014 4:28:35 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote: And yet, if a company's advertising/perceived attitude is strong enough, bystanders will associate anyone displaying or using one of their products with the attitudes portrayed in the advertising, and you might not necessarily want yourself identified with those attitudes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: HAR and Swift panniers?
Thanks, John. Swifts are adjustable if one chooses the Arkel hardware option, which I have. The pertinent measurements would be the available horizontal tube between the rearward vertical tube of the rack and the fork blade, and the available horizontal tube in front of the fork. Any chance you could post a picture (or send privately, as you prefer) of a mounted pannier from the other side of the front wheel, to show how you made it work? -- Bob On Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:52:43 PM UTC-5, john muhl wrote: On Thursday, October 16, 2014 11:08:28 AM UTC-5, Bob Cook wrote: (Apologies if this or a similar question has been answered already; my cursory search of earlier posts turned up nothing.) Anyone using the Hub Area Rack to support Swift Industries front panniers? Riv's HAR bags look good, but I'm already in the Swift ecosystem. The HAR works great with Ortlieb panniers. If the Swifts use a similar (i.e. adjustable) mounting style there should be no problem; I can measure whatever if you want to be 100%. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
two words: COVER EVERYTHING On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I was responding to Deacon Patrick who did mention negative 20 Fahrenheit. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote: 20 deg F, not -20 deg F... below 20 I'm not riding to work usually. On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: also with Deac, most of the time I will go with knickers, knicker base layer and Falke knee socks. With big wind, I'll go with the long pants, full -length base layer and thicker crew socks. What's very typical here is starting the morning in the low 40s and pushing low 70s by afternoon. With that expectation I use my rando bag for storage and may pop in a public restroom to swap layers. I always carry shorty socks in case the knee socks become too warm. On Friday, October 17, 2014 8:54:29 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: I wear MUSA knickers and the black merino wool not-so-tights from Rivendell. I may have put two pair tights on when riding at -20˚F. Bleow the knee I wear calf warmers and socks and gators as needed. The nylon MUSA knickers/pants are very repelling of wind, which is where most of the cold comes from on the bike. It doesn't take much of an insulate layer to retain the heat with a wind shell over it. Also highly breathable. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/D7BasfFodNw/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] WTT riv road / quickbeam /parts
Hello all, looking for trades of sales - email with questions of offers offlist please. What I have: 54 cm road standard frame1996 - paint beausage but decals and condition 9/10. 54 cm quickbeam frame silver, decals gently and cleanly removed. Spare parts to help build either frame, or trade on their own. Nitto noodle 41cm, nitto 115 road bars, suzue free/free wheelset from the beam, etc What I want: phil wood flip flor wheels for the QB. 1inch threadless stem 17° x 110 (have 120 to trade). Pasela 700x35c tires. What I really want: 700c tourish bike with vertical dropouts and room for true 700x38 and fenders. (Rare 55cm AHH need a new home anyplace?) 559 or 584 iso wheeled bike frame? Bridgestone CB0 What I really really want: 2 speed brompton. Pics/details/etc offlist please Thanks everyone Jason SF,CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Green Caffeinated Wheelmen mugs back in, and questions about Riv style pre-oredering.
Edward Abbey bandana's!! can I get a few in green? ~mike Carlsbad Ca On Thursday, October 16, 2014 12:32:48 AM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote: Presaling the Jamboree shirts and patches was the only way they could have happened. It was a big deal for me, and kind of a breyeah/...akthrough as an artist. I'd do it again, but I don't think my bike friends would be that stoked about bandanas with Edward Abbey on them. The presale is the reason the patch prices will never go down. I feel that the people with the faith to pay upfront for what is only an idea should never say, oh, I should have waited. Presale good. Philip www.biketinker.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
Yes, that is on the front of the fender (the trailing edge). That would be preferred to the leading edge (the rear), but the way the tire savers are designed, if on the leading edge and something snags them, the rubber tubes holding the scraper will just give and no jamming into the fender will occur. On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:41:09 AM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote: I think that is the rear tire, shot from the non-drive side of the bike. You can see the chain in the backround. On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:53:40 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: este - Jan Heine's photo http://www.compasscycle.com/images/tires_wipers3.jpg I've deflected sticks, rocks, piles of leaves and twigs, scraped mud - they work great.. Was riding with some friends after a good summer monsoon ran-off mud all over a paved city greenway that follows a creek bottom across town. Everyone we saw through the morning said, oh, your bike is not going to stay that clean for long. The fact is, all the fenderless muddy people were just getting started, and we had already ridden 18 miles. We did have to stop frequently for my buddy to knock mud out of his fenders, but I had no mud in my fenders - the tire wipers kept it out. Obviously, they only work with slick tires. On Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:30:00 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Are your tire scrapers installed backwards? Can't they be forced under the fender? On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:05:10 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: here's the best safety option for Honjo fenders - tire wipers - Compass sells them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280024.jpg You can see them at the bottom of my fenders. They keep Everything except dust and water out of the fenders - they even scrape mud (within reason). No sticks, no rocks, no chert - they reject it all. As far as clearance goes, if you can see air, it's too much, and the fenders won't be able to do their job. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaP3150005.jpg On Monday, October 13, 2014 10:46:09 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
I think Eric's points are very well worth considering. The tighter tolerances leave little room for error. If you load your bike in the back of the car, there is a good chance that the fender will be knocked out of your perfect line. If you are prepared to live with that tight tolerance then maybe tighter is better. I will admit that my only experience with sudden failure is having an acorn penetrate my wife's rear fender, which was open to accommodate horizontal drop outs. michael On Friday, October 17, 2014 10:43:29 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote: I’ve read Jan’s article and various emails and comments about fender clearance, but I haven’t seen anyone address the possibility that tight fender clearances improve safety by helping to *exclude* objects from being caught between the fender and tire. If I have 1cm of clearance (about a half and inch), then objects (twigs, branches, etc.) that are that size can easily slip between the wheel and fender. Wouldn’t a tighter clearance—say, 1/4 inch—keep a half-inch-size twig/branch out? Personally, I would much rather deal with a 1/4-inch twig than one that is twice the size and much harder to break and therefore much more likely to cause a fender catastrophe. As Jan mentions in his BQ article, most of the classic randonneur machines had very tight fender clearances. Perhaps this is one reason? Am I off base here? —Eric N On Oct 17, 2014, at 5:12 AM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: The rule of thumb for metal fenders is tire size plus 18 mm as a minimum. This allows 4 mm for each rolled edge and 10 mm of clearance. If you can go somewhat bigger than that, you should. The added space gives you the option of bigger tires in the future and reduces the chance of something jamming between the tire fender. 32-42 is pretty wide range,so I would suggest 60 mm fenders if they will fit. Honjos are elegant. VO fenders are also nice. Bertoud fenders are the sturdiest. Properly installed they should last a long time, so a few dollars more or less is probably not the best criterium. Michael On Monday, October 13, 2014 11:46:09 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTT: My 100mm Technomic Stem for your 80mm Technomic Stem
In the meantime, if you have drops, you can shorten the reach a coupla cm's by rotating the brake levers up a little. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Winter Riding Pants
Several years ago, I ordered a custom made jacket and pants from Foxwear. Basically a one man shop in Idaho that makes sports clothing, so definitely MUSA. But the prices were very reasonable, it was maybe $220 shipped for the jacket, pants and a hat. I really like the stuff, especially the pants: they're made from some lined, windproof Gore Tex type fabric, and they seem good by themselves between the lower 50s and maybe upper 20s. Since I'm tall and thin, it was nice to get something that fit: long enough (finally!), slightly baggy, not tight like, er, tights, but a bit trimmer than sweatpants. Normal enough I can wear them into a store and not feel like a freak. Eric Daume Dublin, OH On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: It's Indian Summer here in northern NE, but the temperature is poised to drop and I am thinking about winter riding pants. The RBW MUSA pants look very light weight. I see a nice looking pair of wool blend at makersandriders.com. I have tights and country ski pants but would like something I could walk into a restaurant for lunch with friends. Would like to hear from the experience of other cold weather riders. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Pants
IMHO the answer is Swrve midweight pants. They are not quite soft-shell, have 4-way stretch, are breathable and water resistant, look normal(!), and are tailored for riding. They come in hipster skinny and kinda skinny. They also make soft-shell pants but I prefer layering underneath the mid weight stuff. I'll wear my wool non-tights underneath them below 40, and amfib tights underneath below 25 or so. These pants are just super comfortable. Definitely the best peace of kit i have picked up this year. Kevin Bring on that Arctic Vortex, I'm ready. Chicago, IL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
Thanks for the education. I had not seen them installed that way before. Now, are you SURE they are installed correctly :-)? On Friday, October 17, 2014 11:53:28 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Brian, if you search tire savers images, you can see examples of them mounted in both rotation directions. They work great this way, they eject Everything except dust and water from the fenders, and there is no physical way they could turn under the fender. Regards On Friday, October 17, 2014 9:41:09 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: I think that is the rear tire, shot from the non-drive side of the bike. You can see the chain in the backround. On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:53:40 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: este - Jan Heine's photo http://www.compasscycle.com/images/tires_wipers3.jpg I've deflected sticks, rocks, piles of leaves and twigs, scraped mud - they work great.. Was riding with some friends after a good summer monsoon ran-off mud all over a paved city greenway that follows a creek bottom across town. Everyone we saw through the morning said, oh, your bike is not going to stay that clean for long. The fact is, all the fenderless muddy people were just getting started, and we had already ridden 18 miles. We did have to stop frequently for my buddy to knock mud out of his fenders, but I had no mud in my fenders - the tire wipers kept it out. Obviously, they only work with slick tires. On Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:30:00 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Are your tire scrapers installed backwards? Can't they be forced under the fender? On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:05:10 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: here's the best safety option for Honjo fenders - tire wipers - Compass sells them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280024.jpg You can see them at the bottom of my fenders. They keep Everything except dust and water out of the fenders - they even scrape mud (within reason). No sticks, no rocks, no chert - they reject it all. As far as clearance goes, if you can see air, it's too much, and the fenders won't be able to do their job. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaP3150005.jpg On Monday, October 13, 2014 10:46:09 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: What's the safety rule for metal fender size/clearance?
all I know is they work On Friday, October 17, 2014 7:54:07 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Thanks for the education. I had not seen them installed that way before. Now, are you SURE they are installed correctly :-)? On Friday, October 17, 2014 11:53:28 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: Brian, if you search tire savers images, you can see examples of them mounted in both rotation directions. They work great this way, they eject Everything except dust and water from the fenders, and there is no physical way they could turn under the fender. Regards On Friday, October 17, 2014 9:41:09 AM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: I think that is the rear tire, shot from the non-drive side of the bike. You can see the chain in the backround. On Friday, October 17, 2014 6:53:40 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: este - Jan Heine's photo http://www.compasscycle.com/images/tires_wipers3.jpg I've deflected sticks, rocks, piles of leaves and twigs, scraped mud - they work great.. Was riding with some friends after a good summer monsoon ran-off mud all over a paved city greenway that follows a creek bottom across town. Everyone we saw through the morning said, oh, your bike is not going to stay that clean for long. The fact is, all the fenderless muddy people were just getting started, and we had already ridden 18 miles. We did have to stop frequently for my buddy to knock mud out of his fenders, but I had no mud in my fenders - the tire wipers kept it out. Obviously, they only work with slick tires. On Thursday, October 16, 2014 9:30:00 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote: Are your tire scrapers installed backwards? Can't they be forced under the fender? On Tuesday, October 14, 2014 8:05:10 AM UTC-4, Ron Mc wrote: here's the best safety option for Honjo fenders - tire wipers - Compass sells them. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP5280024.jpg You can see them at the bottom of my fenders. They keep Everything except dust and water out of the fenders - they even scrape mud (within reason). No sticks, no rocks, no chert - they reject it all. As far as clearance goes, if you can see air, it's too much, and the fenders won't be able to do their job. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aaaP3150005.jpg On Monday, October 13, 2014 10:46:09 PM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: 1. How much clearance above tread, all around tire? 2. How much clearance from sides of tire (where the rolled edges envelope sides of tire)? 3. Should I just get the widest fender that will fit on the bike? I am hoping to settle on 32-42mm Compass/GB tires for my Bleriot. I have Hetres on it now, but no fenders yet. I will have to re-check the latest BQ issue for the fender safety article. I think it said minimum 1.7cm vertical clearance all around tread? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
