Re: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14
Bob, Great set. I really like your use of depth of field for dramatic effect. I don't use it enough my self. Inspired terrain you have out there on the right coast. Cheers, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:11 AM, Bob E reeh...@gmail.com wrote: Love seeing all these photos -- very inspiring! I had recently put a set together for the iBOB group; here's my contribution: https://www.flickr.com/photos/30490050@N04/sets/72157649730126719/ Bob E -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/w80fsDzspOE/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14
Great photos – thanks for posting. From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bob E Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 9:11 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14 Love seeing all these photos -- very inspiring! I had recently put a set together for the iBOB group; here's my contribution: https://www.flickr.com/photos/30490050@N04/sets/72157649730126719/ Bob E -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14
Fantastic shots, Eunice! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eunice Chang Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 9:47 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14 Loved looking at everyone's photos. It's always good to see different views. I only really started riding in March (thank you, 30DaysofBiking) and never really stopped. I suppose I never really stopped in general. Here's mine: https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejchang/sets/72157650123347390/ -E. On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:06 PM, Kellie Stapleton kellie.staple...@gmail.commailto:kellie.staple...@gmail.com wrote: Great photos. I always look for yours……... On Tuesday, January 27, 2015 at 6:26:23 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote: Wow. I love doing this. Thank you for reminding me to do this. Not having memory, I forget, and photos are my memory. I remembered all kinds of wonderful things. Here are fourteen of them: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157648184747494/ With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone doing the EBDJ Wednesday Challenge?
Tim, The bike performance is what had me doubting the most. It wasn't until late December that I started feeling like my old self again riding-wise. That was almost 2 months after I started. That being said none of the rides were longer than 5 hours. Planning on a few Brevets this year - we'll see how it goes. Good luck on the r12! Clayton, SF -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
I've never been able to figure out how to easily navigate Flickr so can you provide a link to your gallery? On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 1:57:42 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject: http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html Further thought for this list: my thinking about this category is directly informed, if not wholly made possible, by Grant and Rivendell's work. I want to take what they've done and talk about it more broadly as a category, as I believe there are many of us love this type of bike, Rivendell devotees or no. I hope to devote a future post to the intellectual antecedents of my category, including Grant but also Mike Flanigan/ANT, old Raleighs, early MTB's, etc. Your thoughts and comments much appreciated. -jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: List of RBW Bikes
I think there was the Road, followed by the Road Standard which is a little different. TT rise, HT extension, maybe trail are different. On Sunday, January 25, 2015 at 11:04:12 AM UTC-6, Kellie Stapleton wrote: Is there a list anywhere with the names detailing the chronological order of bike produced by Rivendell? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Anyone doing the EBDJ Wednesday Challenge?
Clayton, it's good to hear of your progress with the weight, but more so on the bike. After 13 days of EBDJ eating I rode a 200k(I'm chasing and R-12). I ate only salami and parmesan cheese (except for a big pickle for sodium and coffee, black, for caffeine. I'm caffeine free except during long rides.) It was the flattest ride I have ever done (intentionally) and I finished with only a short bonk (which I somewhat mitigated with more cheese) in the last 25 miles. I was pleased but since then (I'm almost 4 weeks into EDJ now) almost every ride has been very low energy and slow. Admittedly some of that is due to winter riding but my energy level on the bike has definitely been poor. Otherwise I feel good and at last count had lost 8 lbs. I'm reading a lot on the subject and this seems to make sense to me so I'm keeping at it. I'm not counting calories either but I am certain I'm not consuming anything near what I do on carbs, and I'm not hungry most of the time. Yesterdays food: Tea with coconut oil and ghee at 5:30am, 3 eggs with can of salmon and bleu cheese at 11:00. Afternoon snack of about 2 oz macadamias with some coconut flakes. Dinner was guacamole (1 large avocado, red onion, spices) and rack of lamb, about 6 oz (pre-packaged and cooked from TJ's. Try it, it's delicious!) Normally I would have eaten double the amount of lamb but I'm trying to not go overboard on the protein. Then a snack later of about 2 oz almonds and coconut flakes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14
Thanks, Hugh! From what I see in your photos (and others), I think I need to do some riding on the left coast -- the Bay Area gets the spotlight, but SoCal looks like an awesome place to ride. Bob On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:45:37 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: Bob, Great set. I really like your use of depth of field for dramatic effect. I don't use it enough my self. Inspired terrain you have out there on the right coast. Cheers, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Well Known Tool Co. Founder Dies
Wow, What an interesting story, and life. I'll be a little more reflective the next time I use my Park stand and other tools. May he rest in peace, and condolences to his family. Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Rivendell store frenzy
My Rivendell shopping list (always a dynamic document) included a pair of the Rivy rings, so when the announcement of changes coming 2/1 was made on te BLUG, I figured time to get with it. Well, just now I got a 35 middle but the 45 outer was sorry, out of stock. I got the rest of my goodies, had no problem exceeding the free shipping threshold. The site is running a bit boggy too, so probably lots of folks stocking up before 2/1. Not quite Black Friday but definitely lots of activity. Whatever it is, get 'em while you can. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
I'd say they are upright bars since they're essentially flat, maybe a slight rise (or drop) in some. A gray area would be Woodchippers, etc. Semi-drop? dougP On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:44:29 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote: Would the mustache and albastache bars be considered an upright or drop bar? Do they fit this category? John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
Chris Lampe: scroll down the page under the picture, you'll see the groups and galleries that the photo is a member of. I took a screenshot, see attached. Look for blue arrow. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:22 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: I've never been able to figure out how to easily navigate Flickr so can you provide a link to your gallery? On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 1:57:42 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject: http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html Further thought for this list: my thinking about this category is directly informed, if not wholly made possible, by Grant and Rivendell's work. I want to take what they've done and talk about it more broadly as a category, as I believe there are many of us love this type of bike, Rivendell devotees or no. I hope to devote a future post to the intellectual antecedents of my category, including Grant but also Mike Flanigan/ANT, old Raleighs, early MTB's, etc. Your thoughts and comments much appreciated. -jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:11:35 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: My final thought is the name of these bikes. The convention is using just two words to describe bikes, road bike, mountain bike, kids bike, racing bike, downhill bike etc. High Performance Upright Bikes certainly is a mouthful and I am thinking is there a way to describe the bikes in essentially two words or three at the most? Maybe dropping one word to Performance Upright Bikes would be somewhat of a compromise. Maybe others can chime in. I was kind of thinking the same thing. If your goal is to proselytize and convert other people's thinking, you're going to need to quoin a much catchier name for the category. Detractors will certainly have plenty or derogatory nicknames: old man's bikes, sit-up-and-beg bikes, Dutch-heavy, Townies, etc. Not sure what that might be, though. Being a bit tongue in cheek here, because I can't think of anything better myself, but it needs to capture your imagination the way gravel grinder or monster cross do. Something like couch rockets, or comfort speedsters, or ergo-racers, or enthusiast cruisers... encruzers? And you're going to have to spend some effort explaining (or referencing others who can explain) WHY such bikes should be taken seriously as performance machines, and why it's not as simple as slapping some upright bars on a light bike. Explain why building and setting one up properly requires a completely different mindset - all the way to frame geometry. Even in this group, where you're preaching to the choir, it's hard to verbalize those things. For instance, when Patrick was having trouble with the handling of his Rambouillet recently, and he was determined to start from the assumption that his saddle needed to be located exactly the same, relative to the bottom bracket, as all his other bikes, I found myself completely unable to explain why he needed to let go and do something different. How do you explain that the performance aspect is achieved by retaining the *same*, body angles and position that people are used to (and emotionally invested in), and which provides the most efficiency and power - but that this position is somehow rotated - so that the seat may be set back further, and the seatpost extended less, and the handlebars higher and closer, etc...? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 14 for '14
Love seeing all these photos -- very inspiring! I had recently put a set together for the iBOB group; here's my contribution: https://www.flickr.com/photos/30490050@N04/sets/72157649730126719/ Bob E -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
Jeremy, this was a timely thread for me. I was thinking this week, outside of this group, there really isn't a place for me to read about bicycles that I like, which are the bikes you are describing. I am looking forward to the Flickr Group and more photos to peruse over. Dropped bar bikes fell out of fashion for me years ago. I found them uncomfortable at best and is one of the reasons that I was an early adopter of riding mountain bikes as a commuter in the early 80's when the first Stumpjumper came out. I was mesmerized by that bike. I don't even look at dropped bar bikes now, even if you have a Rivendell, the drop bar ruins it for me. When I go to NAHBS and see a well hand crafted bike my thoughts are, can an upright bar be retrofitted to the bike. Better yet, bikes at NAHBS that are designed around upright bars. Yip San makes great bikes with upright bars and many other builders like ANT who you mentioned. My final thought is the name of these bikes. The convention is using just two words to describe bikes, road bike, mountain bike, kids bike, racing bike, downhill bike etc. High Performance Upright Bikes certainly is a mouthful and I am thinking is there a way to describe the bikes in essentially two words or three at the most? Maybe dropping one word to Performance Upright Bikes would be somewhat of a compromise. Maybe others can chime in. Thanks for your Blog and Flickr photos. Looking forward to reading more. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
wonderful bikes, all, but I was particularly impressed with the Clem setup. On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 1:57:42 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject: http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html Further thought for this list: my thinking about this category is directly informed, if not wholly made possible, by Grant and Rivendell's work. I want to take what they've done and talk about it more broadly as a category, as I believe there are many of us love this type of bike, Rivendell devotees or no. I hope to devote a future post to the intellectual antecedents of my category, including Grant but also Mike Flanigan/ANT, old Raleighs, early MTB's, etc. Your thoughts and comments much appreciated. -jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: fs/trade Phil wood wheel, Nitto.....
Peter - if you want that hub, go for it. Won't work out for me right now. On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 11:42 AM, dylan alverson moderntimes3...@gmail.com wrote: Xtr hub is the fh-m950. 32 hole. Thanks Dylan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/QDRntk_2LCY/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Well Known Tool Co. Founder Dies
Pretty much a hidden legend among in the cycling community; mostly unknown to the rest of the world. Yet, as the obit says, you can't walk into any LBS without seeing pegboards full of his tools. http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_27405034/twin-cities-bike-repair-pioneer-howard-hawkins-dies -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Towards a new category: high performance upright
Would the mustache and albastache bars be considered an upright or drop bar? Do they fit this category? John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Sackville TrunkSack Olive Large
Wow, that was quick. Sold! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
I would argue that upright refers to the riding position of the person on the bike, rather than the type of handlebars. If drop bars are way high and result in a relatively upright riding position, it's an upright bike in my eyes. I ride MTB bars exclusively with anywhere from 24mm to 60mm of rise and I consider every one to be upright because that's how I set up the bike. The really hi-rise bars I've tried had too much pullback for my tastes. I seem to be most comfortable with between 9 and maybe 15 degrees of sweep. The worst thing I've ever ridden, by far, was the Albatross bar. Having the grips almost parallel to the top tube just does not work for me. On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 9:44:29 AM UTC-6, Surlyprof wrote: Would the mustache and albastache bars be considered an upright or drop bar? Do they fit this category? John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Will's Pasadena Style Vs. Mark F's Rack Style.
A picture proves that Mark F owns double flats. https://flic.kr/p/owX3B4 Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14
Hi Bob, Well I make the best of what I have here in Los Angeles which is pretty darn nice. I think Los Angeles gets a bad reputation with all the car business and pathetic mass transit though I read somewhere that Los Angeles has the potential to be one of the greatest bicycle cities. If we can open up the vast number of pathways along the many water channels it would be spectacular! What's really amazing though is the proximity to wilderness from 10 million people! I can ride from my house( with a lot of climbing ) and be completely alone. Then there's the vibrancy of the communities that make up the greater Los Angeles, that back drop gives me endless opportunities for interesting rides. I've barely scratched the surface. Anytime you want to visit I have a stable and your welcome to borrow any bike for a ride. And one of these days I need to make it East for some back roads cycling. Cheers, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Bob E reeh...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Hugh! From what I see in your photos (and others), I think I need to do some riding on the left coast -- the Bay Area gets the spotlight, but SoCal looks like an awesome place to ride. Bob On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:45:37 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: Bob, Great set. I really like your use of depth of field for dramatic effect. I don't use it enough my self. Inspired terrain you have out there on the right coast. Cheers, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/w80fsDzspOE/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
Thanks! Right after I posted my question I figured out that the OP had imbedded the gallery on his blog and that simply clicking the photo of the bike would scroll thru the images. Now I have a guideline for the Flickr website itself! On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 12:22:12 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: Chris Lampe: scroll down the page under the picture, you'll see the groups and galleries that the photo is a member of. I took a screenshot, see attached. Look for blue arrow. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:22 AM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: wrote: I've never been able to figure out how to easily navigate Flickr so can you provide a link to your gallery? On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 1:57:42 PM UTC-6, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject: http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html Further thought for this list: my thinking about this category is directly informed, if not wholly made possible, by Grant and Rivendell's work. I want to take what they've done and talk about it more broadly as a category, as I believe there are many of us love this type of bike, Rivendell devotees or no. I hope to devote a future post to the intellectual antecedents of my category, including Grant but also Mike Flanigan/ANT, old Raleighs, early MTB's, etc. Your thoughts and comments much appreciated. -jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville TrunkSack Olive Large
Joe Just in case you have any frustrated extra customers, you could send them to me. I have a 100% new, never mounted Olive Trunksack Large. I'm asking $100 shipped. I've listed it before and got no interest, so I planned on keeping it until somebody posted a WTB. Twenty extra bucks for NEW. Local pickup for a little less. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 8:13:12 AM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote: Wow, that was quick. Sold! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
Sounds similar to the Sport Minivan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: new steel bike: Rivendells are cheap!
$17,500 includes first class airfare round trip to Luxembourg City, dinner with Eddy at the Hotel Carlton. Then a morning ride with Eddy after enjoying the worlds' finest hot cocoa at the Carlton. Bike itself is a Maxway with Enve fork. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
Yes, the word Sport might be a good starting point. We have had Sport Touring bikes. I don't think I like Sport Upright...is Upright Sport any better? I don't like Sport Townie or Sport Dutch. I don't want to use racer in the name and I don't know what a Sport Racer would be anyway. That leaves Sport Cruiser? Keep thinking and maybe we can come up with a good name. Doug On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 12:00:32 PM UTC-8, Trenker wrote: Sounds similar to the Sport Minivan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
I refer to my bikes with non road bars as 'semi-uprights'. Anton, whose back is at about a 50-55 degree angle when riding with non-drop bars. On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:40:05 PM UTC-5, iamkeith wrote: On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 7:11:35 AM UTC-7, blakcloud wrote: My final thought is the name of these bikes. The convention is using just two words to describe bikes, road bike, mountain bike, kids bike, racing bike, downhill bike etc. High Performance Upright Bikes certainly is a mouthful and I am thinking is there a way to describe the bikes in essentially two words or three at the most? Maybe dropping one word to Performance Upright Bikes would be somewhat of a compromise. Maybe others can chime in. I was kind of thinking the same thing. If your goal is to proselytize and convert other people's thinking, you're going to need to quoin a much catchier name for the category. Detractors will certainly have plenty or derogatory nicknames: old man's bikes, sit-up-and-beg bikes, Dutch-heavy, Townies, etc. Not sure what that might be, though. Being a bit tongue in cheek here, because I can't think of anything better myself, but it needs to capture your imagination the way gravel grinder or monster cross do. Something like couch rockets, or comfort speedsters, or ergo-racers, or enthusiast cruisers... encruzers? And you're going to have to spend some effort explaining (or referencing others who can explain) WHY such bikes should be taken seriously as performance machines, and why it's not as simple as slapping some upright bars on a light bike. Explain why building and setting one up properly requires a completely different mindset - all the way to frame geometry. Even in this group, where you're preaching to the choir, it's hard to verbalize those things. For instance, when Patrick was having trouble with the handling of his Rambouillet recently, and he was determined to start from the assumption that his saddle needed to be located exactly the same, relative to the bottom bracket, as all his other bikes, I found myself completely unable to explain why he needed to let go and do something different. How do you explain that the performance aspect is achieved by retaining the *same*, body angles and position that people are used to (and emotionally invested in), and which provides the most efficiency and power - but that this position is somehow rotated - so that the seat may be set back further, and the seatpost extended less, and the handlebars higher and closer, etc...? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: new steel bike: Rivendells are cheap!
Personally, I'd go with Rivendell take Southwest to Oakland, BART to Walnut Creek, followed by lunch with the elves in the bike build workshop. dougP On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 12:34:19 PM UTC-8, Scott G. wrote: $17,500 includes first class airfare round trip to Luxembourg City, dinner with Eddy at the Hotel Carlton. Then a morning ride with Eddy after enjoying the worlds' finest hot cocoa at the Carlton. Bike itself is a Maxway with Enve fork. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: 14 for '14
+1 for Hugh's observations. LA is a huge beast if you just drop in, but with local guidance you can find some great cycling. The ultimate is to explore the Bay Area, then head south on Hwy 1. With some judicious use of trains, one can skip over some of the really unrewarding riding areas. Allow 2-3 weeks for optimal results. dougP On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:40:46 AM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote: Hi Bob, Well I make the best of what I have here in Los Angeles which is pretty darn nice. I think Los Angeles gets a bad reputation with all the car business and pathetic mass transit though I read somewhere that Los Angeles has the potential to be one of the greatest bicycle cities. If we can open up the vast number of pathways along the many water channels it would be spectacular! What's really amazing though is the proximity to wilderness from 10 million people! I can ride from my house( with a lot of climbing ) and be completely alone. Then there's the vibrancy of the communities that make up the greater Los Angeles, that back drop gives me endless opportunities for interesting rides. I've barely scratched the surface. Anytime you want to visit I have a stable and your welcome to borrow any bike for a ride. And one of these days I need to make it East for some back roads cycling. Cheers, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Bob E ree...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks, Hugh! From what I see in your photos (and others), I think I need to do some riding on the left coast -- the Bay Area gets the spotlight, but SoCal looks like an awesome place to ride. Bob On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:45:37 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote: Bob, Great set. I really like your use of depth of field for dramatic effect. I don't use it enough my self. Inspired terrain you have out there on the right coast. Cheers, ~Hugh “Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― Albert Einstein http://velocipedemusings.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/w80fsDzspOE/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
You're on to something. Gosh, why not just call them sportster bikes. As in: vehicles that combine capable handling with all-day comfort and good looks, as opposed to singularly focused, race-oriented, muscle-machines. Examples of actual sportsters from other disciplines: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9wCjkkjSdX8/VMquD4f_0iI/AEc/hNr3B1aUfiM/s1600/porsche-sportster.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m6_pz3yFYa4/VMquJNSKwsI/AEk/K5jeHT41Fzg/s1600/Harley-sportster_1957.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7B9a86BMdfE/VMquP-iB2WI/AEs/Kfj1-7655Tc/s1600/marlin-sportster-03.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XhWXHRjfrFg/VMqt3FWcgMI/AEU/AofaJKGLzLg/s1600/maverick-sportster_car_1952.jpg On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:43:05 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: Yes, the word Sport might be a good starting point. We have had Sport Touring bikes. I don't think I like Sport Upright...is Upright Sport any better? I don't like Sport Townie or Sport Dutch. I don't want to use racer in the name and I don't know what a Sport Racer would be anyway. That leaves Sport Cruiser? Keep thinking and maybe we can come up with a good name. Doug On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 12:00:32 PM UTC-8, Trenker wrote: Sounds similar to the Sport Minivan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
Sportster bike...It would probably get shortened to Sportster. Hmmm...that might work. Especially for the Waterford frames made in Wisconsin (birthplace of the Harley Davidson Sportster). I have a 650b Homer (with Albas) on order and we all know that the 650b Homer is just a Saluki with a stealth paint job. I'll make my own headbadge...Saluki Sportster. :-) Doug On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 2:05:51 PM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: You're on to something. Gosh, why not just call them sportster bikes. As in: vehicles that combine capable handling with all-day comfort and good looks, as opposed to singularly focused, race-oriented, muscle-machines. Examples of actual sportsters from other disciplines: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9wCjkkjSdX8/VMquD4f_0iI/AEc/hNr3B1aUfiM/s1600/porsche-sportster.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m6_pz3yFYa4/VMquJNSKwsI/AEk/K5jeHT41Fzg/s1600/Harley-sportster_1957.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7B9a86BMdfE/VMquP-iB2WI/AEs/Kfj1-7655Tc/s1600/marlin-sportster-03.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XhWXHRjfrFg/VMqt3FWcgMI/AEU/AofaJKGLzLg/s1600/maverick-sportster_car_1952.jpg On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:43:05 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: Yes, the word Sport might be a good starting point. We have had Sport Touring bikes. I don't think I like Sport Upright...is Upright Sport any better? I don't like Sport Townie or Sport Dutch. I don't want to use racer in the name and I don't know what a Sport Racer would be anyway. That leaves Sport Cruiser? Keep thinking and maybe we can come up with a good name. Doug On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 12:00:32 PM UTC-8, Trenker wrote: Sounds similar to the Sport Minivan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
Ok, now that I did some checking, I found such a bike on the REI website. Called the Scott Sportster 50 Bike – 2015. The easy-riding Scott Sportster 50 bike offers a comfortable upright riding position and speedy, smooth-rolling wheels for mellow commutes, riding around town or cruising along your local bike path. http://www.rei.com/product/879474/scott-sportster-50-bike-2015 I don’t like the bike pictured, but put a quill stem on it, raise the handlebars, ditch the disc brakes and shocks... and it wouldn't be too bad. At least the Scott concept of a Sportster fits our concept to some degree. Doug On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 2:29:34 PM UTC-8, Doug Williams wrote: Sportster bike...It would probably get shortened to Sportster. Hmmm...that might work. Especially for the Waterford frames made in Wisconsin (birthplace of the Harley Davidson Sportster). I have a 650b Homer (with Albas) on order and we all know that the 650b Homer is just a Saluki with a stealth paint job. I'll make my own headbadge...Saluki Sportster. :-) Doug On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 2:05:51 PM UTC-8, iamkeith wrote: You're on to something. Gosh, why not just call them sportster bikes. As in: vehicles that combine capable handling with all-day comfort and good looks, as opposed to singularly focused, race-oriented, muscle-machines. Examples of actual sportsters from other disciplines: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9wCjkkjSdX8/VMquD4f_0iI/AEc/hNr3B1aUfiM/s1600/porsche-sportster.jpg https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-m6_pz3yFYa4/VMquJNSKwsI/AEk/K5jeHT41Fzg/s1600/Harley-sportster_1957.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7B9a86BMdfE/VMquP-iB2WI/AEs/Kfj1-7655Tc/s1600/marlin-sportster-03.jpg https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XhWXHRjfrFg/VMqt3FWcgMI/AEU/AofaJKGLzLg/s1600/maverick-sportster_car_1952.jpg On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:43:05 PM UTC-7, Doug Williams wrote: Yes, the word Sport might be a good starting point. We have had Sport Touring bikes. I don't think I like Sport Upright...is Upright Sport any better? I don't like Sport Townie or Sport Dutch. I don't want to use racer in the name and I don't know what a Sport Racer would be anyway. That leaves Sport Cruiser? Keep thinking and maybe we can come up with a good name. Doug On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 12:00:32 PM UTC-8, Trenker wrote: Sounds similar to the Sport Minivan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
I have kids myself. I second the mixte...my son has a Trek MountainTrack. It allowed him to ride a bigger bike that he could otherwise ride (better investment as he is now about to outgrow it). Also, his bike actually has a quill stem! Hard; but not impossible to come by. Allows you to raise the handlebars as the kid grows (and get them up high enough to start with). Lastly, my sons bike has a cool feature where the peddles can screw into the cranks in two different positions, effectively changing the crank length (again, adjust as they grow). I suggest that you look for something like that. Ask for those features when you call the various bike shops or look online. Doug On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 5:29:06 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't need gears, a vintage Schwinn Bantam is a great bike: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4338741715 Could even build it up w/ a 3 speed if so inclined. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Eric Daume eric...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I wouldn't worry much about bar height if you're moving to a 20 bike. My 90th% son, at just over 7, has a lot of room to grow before his saddle is above the bars when I got him this 20 Specialized (picture a ways down on this post): http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/01/bike-and-hatchet-update.html (and please excuse my horrible mixing of past and present tense in the above sentence). Eric Dublin, OH On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:20 PM, LeahFoy jonasa...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Ok, this sounds doable, all, but is there a Trek mtn bike that is made small enough for a 6 year old? Aren't they adult bikes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: near-mint Atlantis frameset and 26 Mavic/chris king wheelset
Congrats on the new job. It seems to have happened in the nick of time. Now, get that Atlantis built up so you won't again be tempted. dougP On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-8, Christopher Chen wrote: happy endings do happen! On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Z ztah...@uwalumni.com javascript: wrote: Decided not to sell the most versatile bike in the stable... 'cause I got a new job! Thanks to the very nice prospective buyer who wasn't too mad at me when I changed my mind. On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 10:38:26 PM UTC-7, Z wrote: Update: sale pending on the combo package. Sorry to those I haven't gotten back to, I've been busy. There have been a lot of responses and I'm dealing with folks in the order in which they replied. On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Z wrote: Hello group, I'm reluctantly selling my recently-acquired 56 cm Atlantis frameset and 26 wheelset. I was hoping to turn these into a whole bike, but it wasn't meant to be. Here's the 411: - 56 cm Rivendell Atlantis, Waterford-built. Only blemishes are from previous owner fitting wheels (scratches at dropouts) and from me fitting a seatpost (*really* tiny nick in paint at seatpost clamp). Never been built up or ridden. Still packed as if it had come straight from Walnut Creek. Includes installed FSA headset and front/rear brake cable hangers. - 26 Mavic XC717 rims, 32 hole, black with ceramic coated side wall. Laced to silver Chris King classic hubs (135 mm rear spacing). Rims show signs of use and wear but true and in good condition. Hubs are particularly shiny. No skewers. $1600 for the frameset, $200 for the wheelset or $1750 for the package (shipped). Please contact me off-list for photos or additional info. I'll probably soon be selling some Rivvy-style parts and an almost-complete Rawland Stag (size Large) as well. Thanks, Zach -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Depending on where you live, there are bike shops that sell both new and refurbished used bikes. In the sf bay area they are all over but often around college campuses. Those shops can often refurbish a bike adding additions like specific handlebars and cranks for budget-conscious students. We have one in our neighborhood and he has a range of older frames that he has collected to tailor to various customers' needs. Any college campuses near you? John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: near-mint Atlantis frameset and 26 Mavic/chris king wheelset
Decided not to sell the most versatile bike in the stable... 'cause I got a new job! Thanks to the very nice prospective buyer who wasn't too mad at me when I changed my mind. On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 10:38:26 PM UTC-7, Z wrote: Update: sale pending on the combo package. Sorry to those I haven't gotten back to, I've been busy. There have been a lot of responses and I'm dealing with folks in the order in which they replied. On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Z wrote: Hello group, I'm reluctantly selling my recently-acquired 56 cm Atlantis frameset and 26 wheelset. I was hoping to turn these into a whole bike, but it wasn't meant to be. Here's the 411: - 56 cm Rivendell Atlantis, Waterford-built. Only blemishes are from previous owner fitting wheels (scratches at dropouts) and from me fitting a seatpost (*really* tiny nick in paint at seatpost clamp). Never been built up or ridden. Still packed as if it had come straight from Walnut Creek. Includes installed FSA headset and front/rear brake cable hangers. - 26 Mavic XC717 rims, 32 hole, black with ceramic coated side wall. Laced to silver Chris King classic hubs (135 mm rear spacing). Rims show signs of use and wear but true and in good condition. Hubs are particularly shiny. No skewers. $1600 for the frameset, $200 for the wheelset or $1750 for the package (shipped). Please contact me off-list for photos or additional info. I'll probably soon be selling some Rivvy-style parts and an almost-complete Rawland Stag (size Large) as well. Thanks, Zach -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Hi Leah, I've heard good reports about Torker, but where one finds these I have no idea! http://torkerbikeco.com/bike/kids/ The bars look more on the straight side, but would be easy enough to replace them with some narrow North-Road type bars if that's would work better. Good luck! -- Liz S. On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: Hi, All, My 6 year old has almost outgrown his little Specialized Hotrock with 16 inch wheels. He will fit the 20 inch soon, if not now. I would like a new bike for him by July, as we have some biking adventures planned and WOW would it be nice for him to have bigger wheels and gears! Anyway, Specialized and Trek have their normal offerings, but I guess I am looking for a Riv-esque bike. A bike with upright bars instead of those slammed straight variety. Sadly, that is the bar-type on the 16 inch bike, and it's perfect, but the bike companies do away with them on the bigger bikes. And is is maybe too much to ask for something that would eventually take a back rack (cringe)? Is there some off-brand that would accommodate these wishes? Thanks in advance! Leah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Ok, this sounds doable, all, but is there a Trek mtn bike that is made small enough for a 6 year old? Aren't they adult bikes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
If you don't need gears, a vintage Schwinn Bantam is a great bike: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/4338741715 Could even build it up w/ a 3 speed if so inclined. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't worry much about bar height if you're moving to a 20 bike. My 90th% son, at just over 7, has a lot of room to grow before his saddle is above the bars when I got him this 20 Specialized (picture a ways down on this post): http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/01/bike-and-hatchet-update.html (and please excuse my horrible mixing of past and present tense in the above sentence). Eric Dublin, OH On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:20 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, this sounds doable, all, but is there a Trek mtn bike that is made small enough for a 6 year old? Aren't they adult bikes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
My oldest upgraded sequentially from a 16 bike (Trek Jazz Wizard) to a 20 bike (Specialized HotRock) and now is on a 24 bike (Raleigh Mountain Scout). It's a decent bike, but with the flat bars. You can easily swap them out for more upright bars, although there really isn't a need since the frame geometry puts the bars pretty high up relative to the saddle. All three bikes were either from friends or obtained very inexpensively on Craigslist. She has no issues with the grip shifters, although she prefers thumb shifters. I would not suggest friction bar-end shifters this early-- kids tend to drop their bikes a lot and that can damage bar-end shifters. Grip shifters and thumbies are pretty much safe from getting destroyed. I am reluctant to force kids into really large size jumps because even though you might get them to fit by slamming the seat post and swapping out handlebars, with each increase in size, the crank arms usually get longer as well, and kids' legs haven't grown enough to have the proper range of motion around the pedal stroke. That was the most difficult change my oldest dealt with when she upgraded from a 20 bike to a 24 bike. The crank arms had jumped in length from 135mm to 155mm-- pretty extreme! If I had forced her into a 26 mtn bike it would likely have had 170mm crank arms (adult sized). Not good. Good luck! Anton -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
I wouldn't worry much about bar height if you're moving to a 20 bike. My 90th% son, at just over 7, has a lot of room to grow before his saddle is above the bars when I got him this 20 Specialized (picture a ways down on this post): http://www.bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2014/01/bike-and-hatchet-update.html (and please excuse my horrible mixing of past and present tense in the above sentence). Eric Dublin, OH On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:20 PM, LeahFoy jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, this sounds doable, all, but is there a Trek mtn bike that is made small enough for a 6 year old? Aren't they adult bikes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Leah, I did what Patrick is recommending. In my case I had the old mountain and hybrid bikes, I replaced the handlebars with Albatross and bar-end shifters. My sons liked be able to give input on bar tape color. I'd be happy to answer any questions. All the best, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: FS: near-mint Atlantis frameset and 26 Mavic/chris king wheelset
happy endings do happen! On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Z ztahr...@uwalumni.com wrote: Decided not to sell the most versatile bike in the stable... 'cause I got a new job! Thanks to the very nice prospective buyer who wasn't too mad at me when I changed my mind. On Sunday, January 18, 2015 at 10:38:26 PM UTC-7, Z wrote: Update: sale pending on the combo package. Sorry to those I haven't gotten back to, I've been busy. There have been a lot of responses and I'm dealing with folks in the order in which they replied. On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 at 9:41:50 PM UTC-7, Z wrote: Hello group, I'm reluctantly selling my recently-acquired 56 cm Atlantis frameset and 26 wheelset. I was hoping to turn these into a whole bike, but it wasn't meant to be. Here's the 411: - 56 cm Rivendell Atlantis, Waterford-built. Only blemishes are from previous owner fitting wheels (scratches at dropouts) and from me fitting a seatpost (*really* tiny nick in paint at seatpost clamp). Never been built up or ridden. Still packed as if it had come straight from Walnut Creek. Includes installed FSA headset and front/rear brake cable hangers. - 26 Mavic XC717 rims, 32 hole, black with ceramic coated side wall. Laced to silver Chris King classic hubs (135 mm rear spacing). Rims show signs of use and wear but true and in good condition. Hubs are particularly shiny. No skewers. $1600 for the frameset, $200 for the wheelset or $1750 for the package (shipped). Please contact me off-list for photos or additional info. I'll probably soon be selling some Rivvy-style parts and an almost-complete Rawland Stag (size Large) as well. Thanks, Zach -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Hi, All, My 6 year old has almost outgrown his little Specialized Hotrock with 16 inch wheels. He will fit the 20 inch soon, if not now. I would like a new bike for him by July, as we have some biking adventures planned and WOW would it be nice for him to have bigger wheels and gears! Anyway, Specialized and Trek have their normal offerings, but I guess I am looking for a Riv-esque bike. A bike with upright bars instead of those slammed straight variety. Sadly, that is the bar-type on the 16 inch bike, and it's perfect, but the bike companies do away with them on the bigger bikes. And is is maybe too much to ask for something that would eventually take a back rack (cringe)? Is there some off-brand that would accommodate these wishes? Thanks in advance! Leah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Och, Erl! The bar-ed shifters for them would be brilliant! The poor dears often have difficulty getting the leverage to shift while keeping on the road/trail. Adding that to my list. Thanks! Leah, the list isn't that long, surprisingly. Here's my stab at it: -- Something equivalent to a Trek 700 or 800 series mixte, or small standard frame (from the 80's and 90's usually). Around here they can be found in good condition (may need a tuneup) for $75-150. Just look for rust or obvious things wrong. Bring along a bike geek friend and if you don't have one, visit the local coffee shop early on a Saturday morning. Grin. -- Albatross bars fit any Mountain bike with a quill stem (smaller diameter than the modern whatever they're called stems). -- Your local shop can swap the bars and do a tune up and you're good to go. If it has index shifting, ask them if they can swap it for friction shifting instead (unless you like the headache of gears out of adjustment). -- Chances are it will come with tires that are great (a solid-ish middle ridge, knobby tire). Likely no reason to swap them. -- Enjoy! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Ahhh. Yeah. The 6-year old detail slipped past me. Sorry. I'm a few years early with my plan. Keep an eye out for Mountain Cub or similar (I think by Trek?) on Craig's list. Or go with what the LBS offers, and ask them to swap handlebars and possibly shifters. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Patrick, http://flic.kr/p/o2ah6o On my younger son's bike (soma swept back bars that don't fit bar end shifters) I forgot that I had installed an old indexed thumb shifter for the rear and a friction sunrace shifter that Riv sells for the front. My older son has the bar end shifters on his albatross bars and loves them! All the best, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
I wish! He's much too small for the 24, I'm afraid. But thank you, really! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:56 PM, mikel66...@juno.com mikel66...@juno.com wrote: i have this Trek 220 24 wheel bike for sale. $120 plus shipping mike goldman warwick,r.i. How Old Men Tighten Skin 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/54cb0131b6d0a1310a25st01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/29q8CNIbFu0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. DSC07351.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell store frenzy
Well, thanks for the heads up! Actually, got the last of my stuff today so I squeezed it all in...unfortunately, there's always something else I want from the fine folks at RBW HQ. I suppose I'll just need to pony up after February 1st. ~Hugh seriously addicted to all things Riv, seriously!! Smitham On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 10:04:51 AM UTC-8, dougP wrote: My Rivendell shopping list (always a dynamic document) included a pair of the Rivy rings, so when the announcement of changes coming 2/1 was made on te BLUG, I figured time to get with it. Well, just now I got a 35 middle but the 45 outer was sorry, out of stock. I got the rest of my goodies, had no problem exceeding the free shipping threshold. The site is running a bit boggy too, so probably lots of folks stocking up before 2/1. Not quite Black Friday but definitely lots of activity. Whatever it is, get 'em while you can. dougP -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Inadvertently, both my kids wound up with older, hand-me-down neighborhood Novara (REI house brand) frames, Taiwanese-made with likely at least 10 and 20-years on each. https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/15791036815/ As kid bikes go, these get a better-than-passing grade in my book - well made, durable and not total hogs by any measure. I rehabbed the 20-inch junior mountain bike w/ some small uprights and newer take-off brakes and shifters. Making sure that braking and shifting are as simple and effective as possible is a must as a kid moves beyond the venerable coaster. =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 1/29/15, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: 24 is a great wheel size. I rushed my kids a bit to get them onto it, but left them in it a while before moving to 26. It really rolls over bumps and curbs a lot better than 20. Proportionately like a 29er to them as Leslie mentioned! Now scouring CL to find the perfect used 27.5 bike for them! Everything is really high end, or really low end, hard to find the sweet spot with that size. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Leah Peterson jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: I wish! He's much too small for the 24, I'm afraid. But thank you, really! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:56 PM, mikel66...@juno.com mikel66...@juno.com wrote: i have this Trek 220 24 wheel bike for sale. $120 plus shipping mike goldman warwick,r.i. How Old Men Tighten Skin 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/54cb0131b6d0a1310a25st01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/29q8CNIbFu0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. DSC07351.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
For new bikes, the Raleigh mtn scout in 20 is good: no fd, no shocks. I think specialized might make one. I got an old trek mtn bike on cl for my boys, but that took a little looking. If you post where you live, this group will identify good finds on cl to look into. Then have your lbs clean it up and tune it up. For really upright with fenders and racks you might have to order from Europe (the euro is dipping!) or get REALLY lucky on cl. Oh, Isla bikes! Check em out. They have a PDX distributor. I always want to get one for my kids, but keep getting great CL finds. CL addicted, Edwin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
Would truncating it to Performance Uprights aid the evangelizing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: fs/trade Phil wood wheel, Nitto.....
Hi thanks to everyone. Everything is sold or traded except phil track wheel. Thanks Dylan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
The Soma kid's frameset has 20 wheels. Depending on the parts selected, it might be a little pricey for a kid's bike. http://store.somafab.com/sobakirofrse.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
comfortable is always fast in the long run. good thoughts. enjoy. scott bend, or On Wednesday, January 28, 2015 at 11:57:42 AM UTC-8, Jeremy Till wrote: Some musings and hopefully the first of a few posts on the subject: http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/01/high-performance-upright-towards-new.html Further thought for this list: my thinking about this category is directly informed, if not wholly made possible, by Grant and Rivendell's work. I want to take what they've done and talk about it more broadly as a category, as I believe there are many of us love this type of bike, Rivendell devotees or no. I hope to devote a future post to the intellectual antecedents of my category, including Grant but also Mike Flanigan/ANT, old Raleighs, early MTB's, etc. Your thoughts and comments much appreciated. -jeremy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Nitto, Schwalbe, Shimano, Mavic, MKS, Modolo more.
OK, now it's serious. New stuff, lower prices on stuff you may have seen posted before just waaay more stuff. cockpit Nitto Technomic Standard 26.0, 130mm extension. Good condition. $25 Nitto Dirt Drop 8. Very good condition. $43 Nitto Dirt Drop 10. Very good condition. $43 Bridgestone XO-2 stock quill stem, black. Very good condition. $5 Tange 1 threaded headset, silver. Unsure of model but looks BMX-y. Used but good condition. $5 Nitto Noodle 48's. Gunk from tape and scuffs only on clamp area. Nitto/dragon logo flawless. $50 Nitto Bosco 55cm CroMo. Very good condition. $45 Modolo Brevettato 44cm E-2091 26.0. Scuffed but good condition otherwise. $18 SR bullmoose-esque: straight bar with double clamp stem, 21.1 quill, 25.4 clamp. Good condition. $10 brake Mafac Racers, front rear, complete with Mafac-branded front rear cable hangers. Good condition. $45 Shimano Tiagra road brake levers, silver w/ black hoods. Very good condition. $38 Shimano 105 road brake levers, silver w/ black hoods. Good condition. $18 drive/shift Shimano 105 Golden Arrow derailleur set. Front is marked FD-A105, rear is short cage unmarked. $15 Shimano mountain-LX front rear derailleurs. FD-M542 RD-M542. Very good condition. $35 Shimano BB-UN55 68 x 127. Square taper. Installed but never ridden. $10 MKS Sylvan track pedals. Brand new. $14 Shimano 6 speed freewheel, mf-z012 13-16-19-23-28-34. Good condition. $7 Shimano cassette, 8 speed, 12-23. Very good condition. $10 Shimano Ultegra bar end shifters, 8 speed. A few scuffs on outside of pod mounts but otherwise very good condition. $60 tires/wheels Schwalbe Smart Sams 26 x 2.1, folding bead. Brand new. $50/pair Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35, folding bead. 2K. $75/pair Schwalbe Marathon 700 x 28. Very good condition. $45/pair Resist Nomad 700 x 45, Black/tan sidewall. Good condition. $22/pair Specialized All Condition 700 X 23. Good condition. $7 Specialized All Condition 700 X 25. Good condition. $7 Specialized Roubaix 700 X 23/25, folding bead. Good condition. $16/pair Panaracer 700 X 25 TServ for Messenger. Good condition. $7 700c wheelset, Mavic MA 40 grey anodized. Front hub: shimano 600 (hb-6207), rear hub sealed Performance. Freewheel only. Wheels spin smoothly and are true. A very pretty road wheelset. Good condition. $50 gear Mammut Crater Goretex rain jacket, black. Large. New with Tags. $250 (retails at $379) Pearl Izumi Shoe Covers Pro WXB. X-Large. Never used. $30 Sac La Fuma vintage french hiking pack. Pictures details: http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/spo/4789261024.html $50 tools/misc Spin Doctor cone wrench set 13-19mm. Light use. $15/set Problem Solvers Backstop, black 1 1/4 i.d. New. $5 Shimano Dura Ace track cog lock ring, NJS stamped. $5 Trade interested icluding but not limited to Nitto Jitensha bars, aluminum heat treated Albatross, King Iris cages, Park Truing stand 2 or 2.2, a 64cm-67cm steel lugged road frame and fork, Nitto Tallux 6, 7 /or 11, Schmidt Edulux II SON hub, HA Rack Sackville Bag (tan), Carradice Bagman support, 700c Compass tires. the 411/fine print Prices do not include shipping. Open to reasonable offers. Discounts for multiple items. Paypal preferred. Currently too lazy to erect a proper flickr monument to these goods, so pics upon request, via email or text (72fore 7fiiive7 935ate lemme know you're a RBW/BOB). Apologies for the redundancy in cross-posts to the beloved sister lists. A lot of this stuff is posted to Portland Oregon Craigslist, as well. Feel obliged to come check the stuff out in person- I'm in Northeast Portland, Oregon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
My 10 year old (50th percentile in height) just now fits an extra small adult mountain bike, and it's almost too big. It has a modern diamond frame so stand over issues aren't huge. I would think a mixie would be a must for a normal sized 6 year old. Gears are great and really increase the distance they can go. Off the shelf options aren't very good but I was tempted by a kids sized cross bike by Redline. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Wald Basket Mod
I just disconnected all but three of the wires on my Wald basket to lower the height. I'm going to take it to school and have one of my high school guys/gals get the three that I guess are welded open. I look foward to this basket being shorter in height. Great idea! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] FS: Marathon Supremes (70x50), BM Luxos U
Please excuse the cross-post from the i-bob list. Looking for a new home for some items. Happy to offer a discount for local pick-up in San Francisco. 1) Schwalbe Marathon Supreme tires (700x50); new in packaging - $120 shipped for a pair (I have 4 total tires and would offer a discount if someone wants them all) 2) BM Luxos U headlight - 90 lux; new in packaging. - $175 shipped 3) Clement MXP folding tires (marked 700x33 and 120 tip); mounted once but didn't have enough clearance. Basically brand new but without original packaging. - $60 shipped -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Towards a new category: high performance upright
I feel like my Handsome Devil is close to what you are thinking and I may either have. 650B or 700c frame made by a local builder with this concept in mind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTB: 8 cm Tallux or Technomic Deluxe
Hi Lungimsam, Thanks for the reply. I'm being picky about this stem and pretty settled on an 8 cm Tallux or Tech Dlx, but thanks much for your generous stem offer! Cheers and safe riding! -Jack K. Raleigh, NC On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 1:48:33 AM UTC-5, lungimsam wrote: I have a 7cm Technomic that has been mitred to shorten the rise by 1cm by my reputable Rivfriendly ex-Rivendell dealer LBS you can have for 20$. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
A good friend of mine has a couple of daughters older than my daughter, and he's good to find nice equipment for them, and passing it along. So, for my daughter, I had two really good bikes for her as she was growing, until we could get her onto something that could last. (And, one of them I've held onto, to pass along to my granddaughter once she's older). Once my daughter was outgrowing the KHS, at that point, I put her on a Trek 4300, https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/5840945443/in/set-72157623199721925 , which could handle her when she was 9, but is capable of adjusting for her I can easily ride it if I crank up the seatpost... Part of my thought on putting her on a 26 bike, even when she was 9, was that it was like a 29'er for her. And it's 'upright' for her, too. Not like she's was doing singletrack at 9. But, I suppose, more to the point: think that, instead of throwing down a lot of cash on a bike that gets them through until they're ready for a bigger bike, might suggest checking w/ friends that have kids a bit older, see if there's something that'll tide y'all over for a couple of years FWIW... -L On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-5, LeahFoy wrote: Hi, All, My 6 year old has almost outgrown his little Specialized Hotrock with 16 inch wheels. He will fit the 20 inch soon, if not now. I would like a new bike for him by July, as we have some biking adventures planned and WOW would it be nice for him to have bigger wheels and gears! Anyway, Specialized and Trek have their normal offerings, but I guess I am looking for a Riv-esque bike. A bike with upright bars instead of those slammed straight variety. Sadly, that is the bar-type on the 16 inch bike, and it's perfect, but the bike companies do away with them on the bigger bikes. And is is maybe too much to ask for something that would eventually take a back rack (cringe)? Is there some off-brand that would accommodate these wishes? Thanks in advance! Leah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Will's Pasadena Style Vs. Mark F's Rack Style.
Manny, Pictures proved it happened! Neat trick too. ~Hugh On Thursday, January 29, 2015 at 11:14:24 AM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: A picture proves that Mark F owns double flats. https://flic.kr/p/owX3B4 Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] WTB: 8 cm Tallux or Technomic Deluxe
No problem! I'm picky too! Totally understand. Hope it's warmer down there than it is up here in Maryland! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] How have your Rivendells held up on salty winter roads?
There is a 200k on March 5th I'd like to attempt. My only shot at training is during the next 5 weeks, and the roads here in Maryland are trashed with salt from the mild snows we have been getting, with more to come next week. Looks like no salt free roads for the next 10 days with the forecast showing sporadic snows three times a week or so until then. So how have your bikes fared in the heavy salt. I have full coverage fenders, so maybe that would help a lot. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: near-mint Atlantis frameset and 26 Mavic/chris king wheelset
Great news Z! I'm so happy to hear it's going work out for you! Make sure to post some pics when you get it built up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
i have this Trek 220 24 wheel bike for sale. $120 plus shipping mike goldman warwick,r.i. How Old Men Tighten Skin 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/54cb0131b6d0a1310a25st01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
24 is a great wheel size. I rushed my kids a bit to get them onto it, but left them in it a while before moving to 26. It really rolls over bumps and curbs a lot better than 20. Proportionately like a 29er to them as Leslie mentioned! Now scouring CL to find the perfect used 27.5 bike for them! Everything is really high end, or really low end, hard to find the sweet spot with that size. On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Leah Peterson jonasandle...@gmail.com wrote: I wish! He's much too small for the 24, I'm afraid. But thank you, really! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2015, at 7:56 PM, mikel66...@juno.com mikel66...@juno.com wrote: i have this Trek 220 24 wheel bike for sale. $120 plus shipping mike goldman warwick,r.i. How Old Men Tighten Skin 63 Year Old Man Shares DIY Skin Tightening Method You Can Do From Home http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/54cb0131b6d0a1310a25st01duc -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/29q8CNIbFu0/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. DSC07351.JPG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
We simply went with older Trek MTBs in small, mixte sizes. They're a bit big at first, but kids are mighty adaptable. We put Albatross bard on them, with friction shifting. Craig's List is your friend in this endeavor. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Kids' Riv-esque Bike
Honestly, I don't even know what to look for. I don't work on my own bikes (my husband is a white collar guy who knows less about bike mechanics than me!) and I wouldn't even know which Craigslist bike would be compatible with albatross bars and bar-end shifters. Who can give me a Old Trek Mtn Bike to Make Rivvy For Dummies checklist? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.