[RBW] Re: Big Mid-Atlantic Bike Swap Meet

2015-02-07 Thread WETH
Steve,
Thanks for the information.  I plan on attending.
-Erl

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[RBW] Re: Silver Roadeo on Blug

2015-02-07 Thread George Schick
I was also curious about what kind of handlebars it has on it.  Anyone know?


On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 10:25:44 PM UTC-6, Minh wrote:

 I may be a little behind on my blug reading, the silver roadeo, does 
 anyone recognize the bracket used for the edelux mounting?  it looks 
 diy-ish, but i don't recognize the part, i would like to get my own edelux 
 down a little, it's too high at the moment


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Re: [RBW] Re: New to me Bombadil

2015-02-07 Thread Eric Norris
You mentioned that part of your decision to powder coat your Bomba was based on 
rust around the kickstand plate. You should check with your powder coater, but 
conventional wisdom is that powder coating by itself doesn't prevent rust or 
corrosion:
Does Powder Coating prevent rust?

Powder Coating is durable and very long-lasting depending on its environment 
and how the items are used.  It is not, however, a rust prevention.  
Pre-treatment and/or primer coating is required for longer coating life.  All 
exterior items should be primered and coated to fight corrosion. 
http://www.commpowder.com/pages/faq%20page/faq_page.htm/

I believe it has something to do with the coating being porous.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Feb 6, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Wildcat96 cschoentha...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Okay, I think you folks have convinced me to stick with the silver and gold 
 combo.  I might just cover the kickstand plate with a good coat of primer and 
 enjoy the Bomba as is.  It's kind of nice to not have to fret over chips and 
 scratches, especially on a mountain bike.  Sounds like the bike enjoyed many 
 worldly adventures with its previous owner!  On a side note, I weighed the 
 Bomba on a digital scale at the bike shop and was pleasantly surprised to see 
 it weigh in at 26.1 pounds as built.  I expected it to be about 30 pounds.  I 
 think my Sam weighs about 25 pounds sans accessories.  Of course this will 
 quickly change on the Bomba as I add racks and bags.
 
 
 
 
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[RBW] Re: Silver Roadeo on Blug

2015-02-07 Thread 'jinxed' via RBW Owners Bunch
I think the bar is a Soma Portola, but these dirt drop styles can be deceiving 
to tell apart. 

The flares look too long to be a midge, too short and narrow for a woodchipper. 

Regardless, that is the best looking/built Rodeo I've seen. 

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[RBW] Re: calendars

2015-02-07 Thread Kellie Stapleton
What a great idea for two great causes.

On Wednesday, December 17, 2014 at 1:58:00 PM UTC-8, Eunice Chang wrote:

 Hi all,

 Thought Riv folks might be interested:

 I've made a calendar full of my bike photos (including a hilsen) and am 
 offering it for sale. I don't make a profit - I'm donating the calendar 
 sales to a local bike advocacy organization, Bike Durham.

 If you're interested, take a look here:

 https://squareup.com/market/justshiny/bike-calendar

 (there are other things for sale too, like prints- but sales of these go 
 to a local animal shelter).

 Thanks,
 Eunice




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Re: [RBW] Re: Handling effects of a front rack/basket/bag....

2015-02-07 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Friday, February 6, 2015 at 10:33:13 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:


 Panniers on the side of the wheel, but hanging from the top of the rack 
 (imagine side panniers on a Nitto Big Front rack, for example) should feel 
 more neutral.  


I'll like to add that panniers hung on a front rack that is *not* balanced 
will adversely affect handling to a very large degree, much more so than 
unbalanced panniers hung on a rear rack, and even to a degree that the bike 
may be unrideable*.

Example: I have a low-trail Boulder All Road with a solid front rack, and 
it is a nice-handling bike, regardless of whether there is a rando bag up 
front. However, one time, I strapped a single-sided pannier up front 
(contains laptop) and the bike pulled *way* to one side, so much so that it 
was virtually unrideable; I turned back home after 1/2 block. I was 
surprised because I always ride my rear-racked commuter lopsided without 
any issue whatsoever. I tried balancing the pannier by adding another 
pannier but further experiments revealed that one needs to balance front 
panniers to within a T-shirt or two in order to not feel like the bike's 
pulling to one side. Yes, it is possible to ride lopsided front panniers 
but the constant need to counter the sideward pull will leave a knot in 
one's shoulders. Don't ask how I know.

* rideability is obviously subjective.

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Re: [RBW] Re: My stolen Rambouillet

2015-02-07 Thread Mark Wilkins
Bump. 

Two months since my blue Ram was stolen (Camp Hill, PA), but there may have 
been a sighting this week. 

This past Wednesday (February 4), a coworker of mine spotted a bike that 
matched the description of my bike in New Cumberland. He was behind the rider 
on Beacon Hill Rd near Hillside Elementary, then followed him as he turned left 
on to Hillside Rd. He said the rider seemed to notice him, so my coworker 
didn't follow the rider when he turned up Hillside Dr (which is a dead end).
My coworker described the rider as a white male, dressed in khakis and a black 
coat.

Resuming my daily drives through New Cumberland,

Mark

 On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33, Mark Wilkins wilkins.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 With all these eyes out there, I have some hope!
 
 doc: Very cool!  I miss riding into downtown.  We moved our office out
 by Colonial Park, and there's just no pleasant way to bike there from
 Camp Hill.
 
 On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:57 AM, 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
 If the bike is still local, someone will spot it.  I drive through New
 Cumberland every day and will keep an eye out.  I remember picking that
 distinctive blue frame out of the crowd while passing you on my commute into
 the 'burg.
 
 
 On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:07:12 AM UTC-5, Mark Wilkins wrote:
 
 Geoffrey: Ah, yes...thanks for the reminder.  Sent off an email to Riv
 late last night.  Between them and the shop, I hope to hear something
 soon.
 
 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Geoffrey rin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Awww man Mark, I'm sorry.  This kind of crap boils my blood!  Good luck
 on
 that lead.  I bet Riv would be able to get you the serial # pretty
 easily
 based of their sales to the shop and when you bought it.  Just a
 thought.
 Also, search tempest is an easier way to cover lots of craigslistings at
 the
 same time:
 
 http://www.searchtempest.com/search?location=17101maxDist=400region_us=1search_string=Rivendellkeytype=advRegion=nacityselect=zippage=0category=8subcat=biaminAsk=minmaxAsk=max
 
 On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:14:41 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
 
 Regarding Serial Numbers, I've decided that I'm photographing every
 bike's
 serial number and posting it on flickr,  I have it on my computer, too.
 Here's my Atlantis:
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15968356411/
 
 I feel like this makes it easy for me to find it if I need it, and it
 has
 a believable timestamp on it, showing WHEN it became mine.  That
 doesn't
 help you, I realize, but your situation reminds me to make sure all my
 bikes
 ser #s are photographed.  Good luck getting Rambo back!
 
 On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 7:46:40 AM UTC-8, Mark Wilkins wrote:
 
 Thanks for the kind wishes and help, everyone.
 
 Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the file where I kept the
 serial #.  I've been in touch with the shop where I bought it, and
 they do have paper records that go back that far...it just may take
 some time to find it.
 
 Someone on the Harrisburg Bicycle Club's facebook page said that they
 _might_have seen it on Sunday a couple towns over from mine.  He
 said...
 
 Not positive but I think I saw a bike like this outside the Legion in
 Newcumberland on Sunday. I have always loved the old school 10 speed
 style so it caught my eye and the name was one that I did not
 recognize. Once again, not sure but hopefully this will help you
 recover your property.
 
 The old school 10 speed style made me smile.
 
 On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:17 AM, bo richardson boru...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 serial number?
 mycriagslistfinder.com
 and jaxed.com should add up to
 pretty good us coverage
 
 if it goes into a container bound for
 foreign distribution, recovery is less likely, duh
 
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[RBW] Lars AndersEn archery on the Blug

2015-02-07 Thread William R.
Bike, Book, Bow  Hatchet? I've watched that video a few times. Amazing. And 
Lars is certainly take a Rivish approach to archery.

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[RBW] FS: 55cm Orange Cheviot

2015-02-07 Thread DS
Pictures here: https://www.icloud.com/photostream/#A85Uzl7VCyo10

There is a paint chip from a chain suck the other week, shown in the pictures. 
And to add to the mileage, I forgot I did a 23 mike SF ride on it, all in all 
less than 200 miles ridden for certain. The more I think about it the more I 
prefer to just sell the frame, fork, headset, and seat post, but also open to a 
complete buy, I'm eyeing a Sam complete for sale. 

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RE: [RBW] 56cm 650B Toyo Homer for sale on RBW site...

2015-02-07 Thread Philip Williamson
Good gravy! Trollface boat! Unintended, I assure you. ;^)

Philip
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[RBW] Front end shimmy.

2015-02-07 Thread hsmitham
I'm on a roll here with another question!!

On my Atlantis with about 5 to 6 lb load up front I have noticed the front 
end shimmy with no hands (I realize that Riv say's or thinks I'm a knuckle 
head for this practice) which is for only a brief time period, even with 
one hand I can feel the and see the shimmy which is pretty violent above 
19-20 MPH so much so that lister Mike S. commented on it. Mike and Riv 
claim that others have experienced the same and switched to the Tange 
needle bearing headset resolving the issue.

My question, has anyone out there experienced this phenomenon? And if so 
did you switch to the Tange needle bearing headset and did it resolve the 
shimmy or at the least reduce it. What Riv say's about more friction at the 
lower race where all the force is received makes sense? I'd just like some 
real world application confirmation. 'nough said.

Thanks in advance for you experiences and feedback.

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52 Bombadil 2TT clear powder coat

2015-02-07 Thread Dan McNamara
The Bombadil is moving on to its next caretaker.



On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:26 PM, Dan McNamara djmcnam...@gmail.com wrote:

 Under orders to thin things out. A tough one.


 https://www.flickr.com/photos/78804025@N08/sets/72157631882460767/


 IRD RollerDrive Headset
 Grey powder coat Nitto Bullmoose bars
 Hands On Wheels Velocity Synergy 32 front / 36 rear. Shimano hubs
 650B Big Bens
 Sugino XD2 46/36/24
 Nitto Seatpost
 Brooks B67
 Deore V-Brakes
 Ergon GP1 Biocork grips
 SOS shifters mounted Keven-style
 Deore front and rear derailers
 Shimano BB
 Nitto Mini-front rack
 Racktime Tour-It rear rack
 MKS RMX pedals

 Waterford built frame. A really great bike. Killing me.

 I had Bosco bars on the bike so the cables are all too long. Thought I
 would leave them that way in case the new caretaker wants to go with Boscos
 or Alba bars.

 $1950 plus shipping. SF Bay Area preferred to save on packing / shipping.

 Open to parting things out of it comes to that.

 Thanks for looking.

 Dan




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[RBW] Rivendell gofast!

2015-02-07 Thread Patrick Moore
'Nother non-epic ride this afternoon in 70*F Rio Rancho (next door to ABQ),
NM, opn the '99 Joe gofast -- the first time I've ridden it in a long time.

I've been thinking of putting Compass 1.5s on it (it would require a
wheel rebuild, from 571 to 559), or perhaps having derailleur and brake
bits brazed on and a custom rack made to make it a derailleur equivalent of
the '03 Curt commuter; most of my riding is detours built around errand
rides anyway.

Anyway, I took it out for an hour of hills and wind in northern RR -- wind
in my face as I stood on the longish hills. It has 23 mm Michelin Pro Race
tires and a 75 gear (and a 65 bailout, but I rarely use it). What fun to
ride a light (17.5 lb) bike with very light (200 gram tires, 370 gram rims)
on hills!

And of course it fits and handles exquisitely. I think I'll keep it like it
is.

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[RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread dougP
Hugh:

On Mike's recommendation, I tried a pair of Kool Stop's Cross Pads:

http://www.koolstop.com/english/crosspad.html

They are a lot shorter than the cartridge ones I had.  I was wanting 
shorter pads to allow the brake to open more for clearance for chubby 
tires.  Braking power seems the same.  They are 55 mm long.  Seems like 
pads vary quite a bit in length.  

dougP

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 4:09:18 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 Hey Rivsters,

 I'm currently using Paul Component 
 http://www.paulcomp.com/touringcanti.html Touring Canti Brakes with the 
 Koolstop 
 http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.koolstop.com%2Fenglish%2Fthinline.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNGyRb3oehPlZ56nkyMvKiIl6RrHDg
  
 thinline salmon pads on my Atlantis.

 The rear were never properly toed in or aligned with the rim surface so 
 they wore funny and now squeal. 

 Here's my question, can you run the Eagle 2 
 http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.koolstop.com%2Fenglish%2Feagle2.htmlsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFQjCNFt0MQF3KxkUBtj5vJoMPiHuTEWQQpads
  
 with these Canti's. Paul components doesn't say anything other than they 
 come with the thin line.

 It's my notion that the shorter the pad length the easier to toe in the 
 pads to the rim surface thus eliminating the squeal.

 Thanks in advace for reading this and your subsequent suggestions and 
 feedback.

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA


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Re: [RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread cyclotourist
The guy on the picture doesn't look like he's having a good time.
Could it be due to the brake pads or simply not enough fiber?

On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Mike Schiller mikeybi...@rocketmail.com
wrote:

 You can use any pad that have the same post style Hugh. Like Doug said, I
 use the cross pad on the front of all my bikes, they work great.

 ~mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front end shimmy.

2015-02-07 Thread Clayton.sf
Needle bearing headset has cured shimmies on 2 bicycles I have owned. I use 
Miche.

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[RBW] Re: Front end shimmy.

2015-02-07 Thread dougP
Hugh:

I've had shimmies with my 58cm Atlantis.  Oddly enough, and contrary to 
accepted wisdom, mine was induced by a moderate rear load.  I used to use a 
Rivendell Hobo bag as a saddle bag.  On a gradual downhill near where I 
live, with a modest amount of weight (a few pounds) in the saddlebag, 
coasting and sitting upright the bike would shimmy predictably at about 12 
mph.  Switching the bag to the handlebars (it's designed to mount either 
way eliminated the shimmy.  This is with the stock Ultegra headset.  To 
shimmy, I had to sit bolt upright without touching the bars.  Even leaning 
forward would eliminate it and holding the bars anywhere would stop it.  

With panniers I found that more weight on the rear than front would lead to 
shimmy.  With more weight on the front, even shaking the bars would not 
start a shimmy.  So I just rode the bike front loaded for a few years and 
only experienced one shimmy and that involved a lot of wind and long 
downhill.  

A couple of years ago I changed to the Tange headset, but it was at the 
same time I changed to the lower trail fork, so it's not clear what impact 
each of those may have had on the shimmy issue.  I have not experienced any 
shimmy since then but then I hadn't had much of a problem as long as I was 
front loaded either.  

Of course that's entirely at odds with your experience with front loading.  
The Tange headset could certainly be helpful by adding some friction.  Jan 
Heine / Bicycle Quarterly has written a lot about the shimmy issue but 
concluded it's pretty unpredictable, although they also recommend roller 
bearing headsets as one thing to try.  

If you have a shimmy inducing amount of weight in your basket, what happens 
if you take that same weight in low riding panniers on the front?  
Personally I think weight high up has more effect on handling than weight 
down low.  When you think about it, the bicycle rotates about the steering 
axis so the closer the weight to that plane the better for handling.  The 
opposite would be to place a lot of weight way back on the rear of the 
bike, a long way from the pivot point.  

The Tange headset is a pretty cost effective experiment.  I had mine 
installed at my LBS  I think it was in the $100 range for parts  labor.  
The original one was probably OK but it was 10 years old.

dougP

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 4:22:10 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 I'm on a roll here with another question!!

 On my Atlantis with about 5 to 6 lb load up front I have noticed the front 
 end shimmy with no hands (I realize that Riv say's or thinks I'm a knuckle 
 head for this practice) which is for only a brief time period, even with 
 one hand I can feel the and see the shimmy which is pretty violent above 
 19-20 MPH so much so that lister Mike S. commented on it. Mike and Riv 
 claim that others have experienced the same and switched to the Tange 
 needle bearing headset resolving the issue.

 My question, has anyone out there experienced this phenomenon? And if so 
 did you switch to the Tange needle bearing headset and did it resolve the 
 shimmy or at the least reduce it. What Riv say's about more friction at the 
 lower race where all the force is received makes sense? I'd just like some 
 real world application confirmation. 'nough said.

 Thanks in advance for you experiences and feedback.

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA


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Re: [RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread cyclotourist
Jason, I didn't know about this model, they look great. Basically
longer-lasting Thinlines!

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 Hugh,

 Kool Stop Supra 2 might be a better option.  The Supra 2 have
 concave/convex washers which appear to be the same as the Thinline pads,
 but with an Eagle 2 shape.

 Jason Cloutier
 Pawtucket, RI

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[RBW] FS: Willow Chainrings

2015-02-07 Thread David Banzer
Hello RBW-OBunchers (excuse potential crossposting),
I bought a large lot of Willow chainrings from Ted Durant of 
Heron/Rona/Willow. Offering these to the list for hopefully what is 
considered a fair price for individual chainrings, $12-$15 range. Rings are 
not ramped or pinned.

Right now, I have for sale:
110, 130, 135 bcd rings in various sizes

Also have tripilizer rings, but I haven't sorted through those yet as well 
as chainring bolts. I'll list those shortly. Contact me offlist if you're 
interested in those.

Shipping is a flat $6 no matter how many rings you'd like. 
I've setup my web storefront (where I usually list bags I make) for orders 
of these chainrings: http://treetop.bigcartel.com/category/willow-chainrings

For iBOB, RBW-OB, 650b, c. listers, you can also enter code WILLOW during 
checkout for 10% chainrings. 

Again, moderators, if too business-y, let me know.
David
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Re: [RBW] Re: My stolen Rambouillet

2015-02-07 Thread Bill
I'm looking forward to your future post informing us that you have the Ramb 
back and that the perp is snuggled up with his new cellmates.

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[RBW] FS/FT: Phil Ti BB, SRAM X7 crankset

2015-02-07 Thread Anton Tutter
These are the last two items from my great parts purge which I need to sell 
to fund the completion of a couple of projects.


   - Phil Wood Titanium BB with Magnium shell (Phil's creme de la creme of 
   square taper BBs).  116mm JIS. Newly rebuilt by Phil with Phil's top 
   bearings. Not installed since recieving back from Phil.  $160
   - SRAM X7 GXP crankset.  42/28T rings, GXP BB interface (requires 
   external GXP BB).  NEW.  $110
   

I'm also looking for the following to help complete my Rawland makeover. 
Will consider cash or trade for above items.


   - Tubus Nova or Ergo lowrider rack
   - Ortlieb front panniers
   - Shimano A520 or A600 pedals


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yrcGBe9Wwmg/VNa8rWgOT2I/Bs8/yOMfTOGYXUc/s1600/PHIL.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ydU30QnnYQo/VNa8wGFq3tI/BtE/mBQTjofbayc/s1600/SRAM.JPG

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Re: [RBW] Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread Eric Norris
As always, Sheldon has the answer:

http://sheldonbrown.com/rim-brakes.html#shoeadj 
http://sheldonbrown.com/rim-brakes.html#shoeadj 

—Eric N
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Twitter: @campyonlyguy

 On Feb 7, 2015, at 4:09 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hey Rivsters,
 
 I'm currently using Paul Component 
 http://www.paulcomp.com/touringcanti.html Touring Canti Brakes with the 
 Koolstop http://www.koolstop.com/english/thinline.html thinline salmon pads 
 on my Atlantis.
 
 The rear were never properly toed in or aligned with the rim surface so they 
 wore funny and now squeal. 
 
 Here's my question, can you run the Eagle 2  
 http://www.koolstop.com/english/eagle2.htmlpads with these Canti's. Paul 
 components doesn't say anything other than they come with the thin line.
 
 It's my notion that the shorter the pad length the easier to toe in the pads 
 to the rim surface thus eliminating the squeal.
 
 Thanks in advace for reading this and your subsequent suggestions and 
 feedback.
 
 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA
 
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[RBW] Rivendell gofast!

2015-02-07 Thread Edwin W
Sounds like it ain't broke. 
Now don't go fixing it!

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front end shimmy.

2015-02-07 Thread Hugh Smitham
Doug,

Your right it's a relatively inexpensive experiment and one I'll most
likely do.

You know the shimmy did happen when I had a rear and front load, so maybe I
can't blame it all on a front load? I was carrying about 20# in the rear so
perhaps it's just the fact that I have about 25# total  plus my 160# could
account for the shimmy. That much weight being delivered to the bottom
race, if there's any movement/ slop down there then it's conceivable to get
the pronounced effect.

I'd still welcome other's with a similar experience to chime it. Did going
with the Tange HS solve your shimmy issue?

~Hugh
 Los Angeles, CA

~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep
moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Sat, Feb 7, 2015 at 5:07 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 Hugh:

 I've had shimmies with my 58cm Atlantis.  Oddly enough, and contrary to
 accepted wisdom, mine was induced by a moderate rear load.  I used to use a
 Rivendell Hobo bag as a saddle bag.  On a gradual downhill near where I
 live, with a modest amount of weight (a few pounds) in the saddlebag,
 coasting and sitting upright the bike would shimmy predictably at about 12
 mph.  Switching the bag to the handlebars (it's designed to mount either
 way eliminated the shimmy.  This is with the stock Ultegra headset.  To
 shimmy, I had to sit bolt upright without touching the bars.  Even leaning
 forward would eliminate it and holding the bars anywhere would stop it.

 With panniers I found that more weight on the rear than front would lead
 to shimmy.  With more weight on the front, even shaking the bars would not
 start a shimmy.  So I just rode the bike front loaded for a few years and
 only experienced one shimmy and that involved a lot of wind and long
 downhill.

 A couple of years ago I changed to the Tange headset, but it was at the
 same time I changed to the lower trail fork, so it's not clear what impact
 each of those may have had on the shimmy issue.  I have not experienced any
 shimmy since then but then I hadn't had much of a problem as long as I was
 front loaded either.

 Of course that's entirely at odds with your experience with front
 loading.  The Tange headset could certainly be helpful by adding some
 friction.  Jan Heine / Bicycle Quarterly has written a lot about the shimmy
 issue but concluded it's pretty unpredictable, although they also recommend
 roller bearing headsets as one thing to try.

 If you have a shimmy inducing amount of weight in your basket, what
 happens if you take that same weight in low riding panniers on the front?
 Personally I think weight high up has more effect on handling than weight
 down low.  When you think about it, the bicycle rotates about the steering
 axis so the closer the weight to that plane the better for handling.  The
 opposite would be to place a lot of weight way back on the rear of the
 bike, a long way from the pivot point.

 The Tange headset is a pretty cost effective experiment.  I had mine
 installed at my LBS  I think it was in the $100 range for parts  labor.
 The original one was probably OK but it was 10 years old.

 dougP


 On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 4:22:10 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:

 I'm on a roll here with another question!!

 On my Atlantis with about 5 to 6 lb load up front I have noticed the
 front end shimmy with no hands (I realize that Riv say's or thinks I'm a
 knuckle head for this practice) which is for only a brief time period, even
 with one hand I can feel the and see the shimmy which is pretty violent
 above 19-20 MPH so much so that lister Mike S. commented on it. Mike and
 Riv claim that others have experienced the same and switched to the Tange
 needle bearing headset resolving the issue.

 My question, has anyone out there experienced this phenomenon? And if so
 did you switch to the Tange needle bearing headset and did it resolve the
 shimmy or at the least reduce it. What Riv say's about more friction at the
 lower race where all the force is received makes sense? I'd just like some
 real world application confirmation. 'nough said.

 Thanks in advance for you experiences and feedback.

 ~Hugh
   Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread hsmitham
Hey Rivsters,

I'm currently using Paul Component 
http://www.paulcomp.com/touringcanti.html Touring Canti Brakes with the 
Koolstop http://www.koolstop.com/english/thinline.html thinline salmon 
pads on my Atlantis.

The rear were never properly toed in or aligned with the rim surface so 
they wore funny and now squeal. 

Here's my question, can you run the Eagle 2 
http://www.koolstop.com/english/eagle2.htmlpads with these Canti's. Paul 
components doesn't say anything other than they come with the thin line.

It's my notion that the shorter the pad length the easier to toe in the 
pads to the rim surface thus eliminating the squeal.

Thanks in advace for reading this and your subsequent suggestions and 
feedback.

~Hugh
  Los Angeles, CA

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[RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread 'velo59' via RBW Owners Bunch
Hugh,

Kool Stop Supra 2 might be a better option.  The Supra 2 have 
concave/convex washers which appear to be the same as the Thinline pads, 
but with an Eagle 2 shape.

Jason Cloutier
Pawtucket, RI

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[RBW] Re: FS: Willow Chainrings

2015-02-07 Thread David Banzer
Added a buncha 74 bcd chainring choices, as well as Sugino chainring bolts 
for double ($6 a set).
Will add tripleizer rings shortly.
Thanks,
David

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 4:00:48 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:

 Hello RBW-OBunchers (excuse potential crossposting),
 I bought a large lot of Willow chainrings from Ted Durant of 
 Heron/Rona/Willow. Offering these to the list for hopefully what is 
 considered a fair price for individual chainrings, $12-$15 range. Rings are 
 not ramped or pinned.

 Right now, I have for sale:
 110, 130, 135 bcd rings in various sizes

 Also have tripilizer rings, but I haven't sorted through those yet as well 
 as chainring bolts. I'll list those shortly. Contact me offlist if you're 
 interested in those.

 Shipping is a flat $6 no matter how many rings you'd like. 
 I've setup my web storefront (where I usually list bags I make) for orders 
 of these chainrings: 
 http://treetop.bigcartel.com/category/willow-chainrings

 For iBOB, RBW-OB, 650b, c. listers, you can also enter code WILLOW during 
 checkout for 10% chainrings. 

 Again, moderators, if too business-y, let me know.
 David
 Chicago


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Re: [RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread Goshen Peter
this is all I use on all my bikes. If they were too long as on one bike I
just dremeled it off at the first ridge then you can go ridge by ridge as
needed. A waste of good pad but squealing brakes are the worst!

http://www.nashbar.com/bikes/ProductDisplay?storeId=10053langId=-1catalogId=10052productId=570803utm_source=Google_Product_Searchutm_medium=plautm_campaign=datafeedcm_mmc=Google_Product_Search-_-PLA-_-Datafeed-_-Kool%20Stop%20Mountain%20Dual%20Compound%20Threaded%20Brake%20PadsCAWELAID=4696083598source=googleUSCAGPSPN=placatargetid=4696088447cadevice=cgclid=CjwKEAiAjNemBRCgp_vymcvVym0SJACRp_UZZSpoLLY3pximv4SXR8xJxVJM-xTh4iO22mfjAJDSKhoC0NHw_wcB

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rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 Hugh,

 Kool Stop Supra 2 might be a better option.  The Supra 2 have
 concave/convex washers which appear to be the same as the Thinline pads,
 but with an Eagle 2 shape.

 Jason Cloutier
 Pawtucket, RI

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[RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

2015-02-07 Thread Mike Schiller
You can use any pad that have the same post style Hugh. Like Doug said, I use 
the cross pad on the front of all my bikes, they work great.

~mike

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[RBW] Rivendell gofast!

2015-02-07 Thread lungimsam
It's a Rivendell? 17.5 lbs? Pics! Pics!

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