[RBW] Re: Brake Cable Hanger - Fork Crown Mount
Jim, That looks a lot more solid than the stamped steel headset-mounted hanger I had. Paul's Funky Monkey is also available as a quill-mounted version. Still, with 300 mm of headtube on my 68 cm Bombadil it's a long way to the brake and I'm not sure if it would stop the shudder for me. I've had good luck with the tektro part on my MTB. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
Joe, did you buy it? If you did, enjoy! I can't imagine it will last. I sent an email about it. I'd love to get ahold of that bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 7:26:43 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: All of these numbers and facts are being pulled from my memory of reading about Rivendells for several years so they may not be 100% accurate but they are probably close. I remember the Atlantis having .9/.6./.9 tubing, which isn't really that stout. I don't know if I've seen the tubing stats for the Hunq but I'm sure they are thicker and may be the same as the Bombadil, which I've read was 1.x straight gauge tubing. I communicated with Grant several years ago when I weighed 360 and the Hunq/Bomba were the only Riv's he would recommend for me. He would not recommend the Atlantis so there is definately a tubing difference. FWIW: at some point, I ended up in a bike-camping discussion that was related to tubing, and ended up, I asked Riv about my Bombadil specifically (one of the diaga-tubed Bomba's). Their reply was: *The seat tube is a straight gauge OX platinum .8mm tube that is opened up to accept a 26.8 post at the top. The top tube and down tube are also .8 straight gauge OX Platinum tubes. We opted for a stouter than normal seat tube so that the tube would be thicker at the mid seat brazing point. You've got plenty of steel there!* And in another email, they said the diagonal was the same as the top-tube; so, at least for my Bomba, the top, diagonal, and downtube are all straight 8, and the seat tube is also a .8, save for the upper end, to accept the seatpost. I think, w/ the diagonal, there wasn't any need to go larger than the straight 8. -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar
Hey Amit - since (I believe) you are a big guy, you might find the Jitensha bar a little narrow. I had a similar MAP bar and found I preferred a bit more width. Just a thought. KJ On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 1:55:26 AM UTC-5, Amit Singh wrote: For the Quickbeam! Let me know if you've got one available for purchase please, and thanks! Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Rivendell A. Homer Hilson (65cm) for sale by original owner built by Waterford
So it doesn't include a front wheel? I forwarded it to a friend who's been shopping around. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Keith B klbe...@gmail.com wrote: Rivendell A. Homer Hilson (65cm) for sale by original owner built by Waterford. My reason for selling is want the same frame in a 63cm size (I'm willing to trade for another Waterford Built AHH). This build new was slightly over $4,400. Fenders, bottle cages in the photos have been removed. Current saddle is black B17 Imperial. Please note: I'm also willing to sell this bike as a Frame, Fork, Headset, HandleBar, Stem, Brake Levers, and Rivendell Bar End Silver Shifters for only $1,500. Please contact off list if interested (510) 703-1074. Keith $1,999 price includes: AHH Frame (65cm Waterford Built) Sugino XD 175mm Crankset 48/36/26 Nitto Noodle Bars 48cm 26.0 Nitto Tallux stem 100.0mm Rivendell Silver Bar End Shifters kit Cables and housing Tecktro Brake Interuptors Tektro TRP RRL SR Brake Levers - Silver Drilled Alloy - Gum Hoods Shimano XTR rear derailleur Campy Champ Triple front derailleur Rear WHEEL only 700c Shimano XT 135 Mavic Open Pro Rim with DT 14/15 Silver Competition Spokes. Nitto Seatpost 27.2 Brooks B17 Imperial Chris King Headset (upgrade) Jack Brown Tire Shimano XT Chain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
Very interesting! Thanks for adding specific details that came from RBW. On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 8:11:27 AM UTC-6, Leslie wrote: On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 7:26:43 PM UTC-5, Chris Lampe 2 wrote: All of these numbers and facts are being pulled from my memory of reading about Rivendells for several years so they may not be 100% accurate but they are probably close. I remember the Atlantis having .9/.6./.9 tubing, which isn't really that stout. I don't know if I've seen the tubing stats for the Hunq but I'm sure they are thicker and may be the same as the Bombadil, which I've read was 1.x straight gauge tubing. I communicated with Grant several years ago when I weighed 360 and the Hunq/Bomba were the only Riv's he would recommend for me. He would not recommend the Atlantis so there is definately a tubing difference. FWIW: at some point, I ended up in a bike-camping discussion that was related to tubing, and ended up, I asked Riv about my Bombadil specifically (one of the diaga-tubed Bomba's). Their reply was: *The seat tube is a straight gauge OX platinum .8mm tube that is opened up to accept a 26.8 post at the top. The top tube and down tube are also .8 straight gauge OX Platinum tubes. We opted for a stouter than normal seat tube so that the tube would be thicker at the mid seat brazing point. You've got plenty of steel there!* And in another email, they said the diagonal was the same as the top-tube; so, at least for my Bomba, the top, diagonal, and downtube are all straight 8, and the seat tube is also a .8, save for the upper end, to accept the seatpost. I think, w/ the diagonal, there wasn't any need to go larger than the straight 8. -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
1st gen Rivendells (Road Standard, LongLow, All Rounder, and the elusive Mountain) had those long point fork lugs and Reynolds tubing stickers. 753 frame and 531 fork (753 fork blades were out of production), made by Waterford. Supposedly a custom butt profile (Grant's been at this a while). That said, I can't tell if this is a RS or LL, or a true custom. I don't know if the first gen customs were also built by Waterford. Regardless, it's a steal for a Riv with Frankenparts. I'd have chimed in on it if I didn't already have a Road Standard, and if others hadn't already said they'd contacted the seller. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: Wow never seen a Rivendell with tubing stickers before. Half step triple, always thought those things were weird. Brake release a bit rusty. Monochome paint? Front wheel looks out of place. Rear wheel 48 spokes? Odd, but probably effective. Minor quibbles really though. Nice ride. I'd own it, but it's not close to my size. Steal of the year for $550 complete. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff gre...@gmail.com wrote: This is my listing on Craigslist. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html Check it and and let me know if your interested. Thanks! Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
Wow never seen a Rivendell with tubing stickers before. Half step triple, always thought those things were weird. Brake release a bit rusty. Monochome paint? Front wheel looks out of place. Rear wheel 48 spokes? Odd, but probably effective. Minor quibbles really though. Nice ride. I'd own it, but it's not close to my size. Steal of the year for $550 complete. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff gre...@gmail.com wrote: This is my listing on Craigslist. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html Check it and and let me know if your interested. Thanks! Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar
I've been window-shopping bars for building up my old new frame project. I ran across Jitensa bars in stock at Ben's Cycle (Jitensa is out of stock). On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 12:55:26 AM UTC-6, Amit Singh wrote: For the Quickbeam! Let me know if you've got one available for purchase please, and thanks! Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: No more MUSA shorts?!?!?!
RBW says they'll be back on the site in a few days. They had them flying under the radar for a few days for some reason. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Rivendell A. Homer Hilson (65cm) for sale by original owner built by Waterford
no it does not On Feb 13, 2015, at 7:08 AM, Jim Bronson wrote: So it doesn't include a front wheel? I forwarded it to a friend who's been shopping around. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Keith B klbe...@gmail.com wrote: Rivendell A. Homer Hilson (65cm) for sale by original owner built by Waterford. My reason for selling is want the same frame in a 63cm size (I'm willing to trade for another Waterford Built AHH). This build new was slightly over $4,400. Fenders, bottle cages in the photos have been removed. Current saddle is black B17 Imperial. Please note: I'm also willing to sell this bike as a Frame, Fork, Headset, HandleBar, Stem, Brake Levers, and Rivendell Bar End Silver Shifters for only $1,500. Please contact off list if interested (510) 703-1074. Keith $1,999 price includes: AHH Frame (65cm Waterford Built) Sugino XD 175mm Crankset 48/36/26 Nitto Noodle Bars 48cm 26.0 Nitto Tallux stem 100.0mm Rivendell Silver Bar End Shifters kit Cables and housing Tecktro Brake Interuptors Tektro TRP RRL SR Brake Levers - Silver Drilled Alloy - Gum Hoods Shimano XTR rear derailleur Campy Champ Triple front derailleur Rear WHEEL only 700c Shimano XT 135 Mavic Open Pro Rim with DT 14/15 Silver Competition Spokes. Nitto Seatpost 27.2 Brooks B17 Imperial Chris King Headset (upgrade) Jack Brown Tire Shimano XT Chain -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/k-fFLD80su0/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
I concur; I have no need of it, but seeing a Riv at that price, I was even considering it, even if I just passed it along later. sounds like it might've found a good home! On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 10:09:36 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: 1st gen Rivendells (Road Standard, LongLow, All Rounder, and the elusive Mountain) had those long point fork lugs and Reynolds tubing stickers. 753 frame and 531 fork (753 fork blades were out of production), made by Waterford. Supposedly a custom butt profile (Grant's been at this a while). That said, I can't tell if this is a RS or LL, or a true custom. I don't know if the first gen customs were also built by Waterford. Regardless, it's a steal for a Riv with Frankenparts. I'd have chimed in on it if I didn't already have a Road Standard, and if others hadn't already said they'd contacted the seller. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Wow never seen a Rivendell with tubing stickers before. Half step triple, always thought those things were weird. Brake release a bit rusty. Monochome paint? Front wheel looks out of place. Rear wheel 48 spokes? Odd, but probably effective. Minor quibbles really though. Nice ride. I'd own it, but it's not close to my size. Steal of the year for $550 complete. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff gre...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: This is my listing on Craigslist. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html Check it and and let me know if your interested. Thanks! Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Broken Crank
Ha! yeah but the carbon cranks were new in the box, and the the Ritchey replacements only lightly used. And like the famous Twilight Zone episode of days gone by, I was forced to be completely honest regarding my experiences The purchasers did see pleased. ;^) - J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550
Not strictly a custom from that era...and I think Grant had the tubing thicknesses tweaked as I recall. AR, Road standard (which this look like) and expedition all came with 753 (with decals en Francais) with 531 forks...built by Waterford who were qualified by Reynolds for silver-brazing. $550 is a nice price On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 9:25:12 PM UTC-6, Peter Adler wrote: Kind of an odd combination. Reynolds 753 (with a French label, no less!) is normally thought of as a tubeset for lightweights; not a natural choice for a road (*not* touring) frame for a big rider. 531 fork makes sense, but it's hard to see why they wouldn't have used all 531. Maybe the original owner was rail-thin. 7-speed rear in a 130 BCD triangle...hmm. Maybe somebody needs to drop those bars, really drop that saddle, put a cassette wheel in and get a modern-ish drivetrain on it. Peter Adler not my normal instinct, but let's get real Berkeley, CA/USA On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 6:51:59 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Email sent! ;-) =- Joe Bunik bringin' er home Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Brake Cable Hanger - Fork Crown Mount
Agreed. I'm running 58/59 size frames, so a much shorter cable run. Jim On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 1:49:48 AM UTC-8, Tom Harrop wrote: Jim, That looks a lot more solid than the stamped steel headset-mounted hanger I had. Paul's Funky Monkey is also available as a quill-mounted version. Still, with 300 mm of headtube on my 68 cm Bombadil it's a long way to the brake and I'm not sure if it would stop the shudder for me. I've had good luck with the tektro part on my MTB. Tom -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar
KJ, that is the bar I went with, the 615mm Map bar http://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 8:38:24 AM UTC-6, Kieran J wrote: Hey Amit - since (I believe) you are a big guy, you might find the Jitensha bar a little narrow. I had a similar MAP bar and found I preferred a bit more width. Just a thought. KJ On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 1:55:26 AM UTC-5, Amit Singh wrote: For the Quickbeam! Let me know if you've got one available for purchase please, and thanks! Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 61x60 c-c Riv Custom San Diego CL $550
Yeah. I think it's 62cm measured center-to-top. My custom is 60.2 cm center-to-top. Nice bike at a great price. My Quickbeam is a 62cm. No need for another 62cm in the stable. Corwin On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 6:40:08 PM UTC-8, pb wrote: Well, this seems attractive. A bit smaller, I'd have bought it by now. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html ~pb -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Bar Ends vs Paul Thumbies? Anyone tried both?
I have run both on drop bars. I ran the thumbies up top, close to the stem. Thumbies work well and they are protected from falls. At the time I also ran interrupter levers. I didn't bang my knee on the shifters and it worked well. I prefer the bar end shifters just a smidge. They are quicker to access. To shift the thumbies, you need to have your hands on the bar tops. On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 10:41:02 AM UTC-8, N. Llama wrote: Speaking of bar ends vs Thumbies, what are people's thoughts on the two for drop bars? I'm reluctantly switching from downtube shifters on my touring bike (not stable enough fully loaded and going fast on the highway) and have had the idea of running thumbies instead of bar ends since I have been in the bar end camp before and was bothered by the accidental shifts, but I'm not sure how ergonomic or well thumbies would work. I've seen a few pictures of people running thumbies on drop bars but there are others out there saying that it's a no go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Bar Ends vs Paul Thumbies? Anyone tried both?
I would rather do retroshift than thumbies on drop bars. But I think bar ends are fine, yes I overshift sometimes accidentally, but it's not hard to fix. On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM, N. Llama nathanspr...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of bar ends vs Thumbies, what are people's thoughts on the two for drop bars? I'm reluctantly switching from downtube shifters on my touring bike (not stable enough fully loaded and going fast on the highway) and have had the idea of running thumbies instead of bar ends since I have been in the bar end camp before and was bothered by the accidental shifts, but I'm not sure how ergonomic or well thumbies would work. I've seen a few pictures of people running thumbies on drop bars but there are others out there saying that it's a no go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics
Maybe you guys need to oil your derailers with 0w-20 synthetic. On Feb 13, 2015 11:31 AM, Mark Reimer marknrei...@gmail.com wrote: My derailleurs also freeze up. Usually I give the rear bar-end shifter a full-range shift, IE: from the smallest to largest cog and back, then shift to the gear I want. Moving the cable in the housing that much seems to help free it up. Usually the issue is moisture from warm air (inside) freezes when I go outside, and causes the cables to stick. I'm already using teflon-coated cables and high quality housing, but sometimes there is just a limit! Tomorrow the forecast is for 'extreme windchill, -41C'. Going to take out the fatlantis for a couple hours of sheltered trail riding so I can test out my new handlebar setup - switched the Noodles out for Albatross bars. They are better with bulky mitts and will let me run a way bigger basket. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kvNDtx9rYJM/VN403cGIpEI/Jtw/U5o1o9EvJKw/s1600/Feb%2Bs24o%2B2015%2B%28280%2Bof%2B70%29.jpg On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 8:38:46 AM UTC-6, gabe mcgann wrote: I hear you on the frozen brakes! I have to kick my derailleurs to get them to shift most mornings. Not the best long term care for the bike but it gets me there! gabe On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: Here's one from a grocery stop on tonight's evening commute home. Note the disengaged rear brake - all froze up with dry slush and crud :-\ KJ Toronto, Canada https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oYsYWjCD3I0/VNQPeztkSnI/AQ8/OP-wW4uGaRg/s1600/IMG_2834.JPG On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 5:10:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: There's a few in my photo stream... https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/ With abandon, Patrick On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 7:15:25 AM UTC-7, gabe mcgann wrote: So it appears that most folks on this group tend to be in friendly dry and warmish climates, so this is a call out to the snow belt riders. Any pictures of your snowy commutes? Sadly my Sam very much dislikes me at the moment. Her salt encrusted derailleurs/chain/frame/brakes/soul cry out for communal support! Finally enjoying Vermont's winter weather, gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
Would be a pretty nice candidate for a 650B conversion. BB would be a bit low, but that can be dealt with. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I concur; I have no need of it, but seeing a Riv at that price, I was even considering it, even if I just passed it along later. sounds like it might've found a good home! On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 10:09:36 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: 1st gen Rivendells (Road Standard, LongLow, All Rounder, and the elusive Mountain) had those long point fork lugs and Reynolds tubing stickers. 753 frame and 531 fork (753 fork blades were out of production), made by Waterford. Supposedly a custom butt profile (Grant's been at this a while). That said, I can't tell if this is a RS or LL, or a true custom. I don't know if the first gen customs were also built by Waterford. Regardless, it's a steal for a Riv with Frankenparts. I'd have chimed in on it if I didn't already have a Road Standard, and if others hadn't already said they'd contacted the seller. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote: Wow never seen a Rivendell with tubing stickers before. Half step triple, always thought those things were weird. Brake release a bit rusty. Monochome paint? Front wheel looks out of place. Rear wheel 48 spokes? Odd, but probably effective. Minor quibbles really though. Nice ride. I'd own it, but it's not close to my size. Steal of the year for $550 complete. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff gre...@gmail.com wrote: This is my listing on Craigslist. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html Check it and and let me know if your interested. Thanks! Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
What a cool old Riv. I love the half-step/granny triples, and actually prefer them to the 46/36/26 set up that Riv sells. However, I like to put slightly smaller rings, so instead of a 50/46/28 (or so) I like a 48/42/28 (or so). And I like the rings to be Bio-Pace. So, now you see what kind of a person I really am. :) Aaron Young The Dalles, OR On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so sure about that, the chainstays look really narrow to me. http://images.craigslist.org/00V0V_iGpterKVsYZ_600x450.jpg On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Would be a pretty nice candidate for a 650B conversion. BB would be a bit low, but that can be dealt with. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I concur; I have no need of it, but seeing a Riv at that price, I was even considering it, even if I just passed it along later. sounds like it might've found a good home! On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 10:09:36 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: 1st gen Rivendells (Road Standard, LongLow, All Rounder, and the elusive Mountain) had those long point fork lugs and Reynolds tubing stickers. 753 frame and 531 fork (753 fork blades were out of production), made by Waterford. Supposedly a custom butt profile (Grant's been at this a while). That said, I can't tell if this is a RS or LL, or a true custom. I don't know if the first gen customs were also built by Waterford. Regardless, it's a steal for a Riv with Frankenparts. I'd have chimed in on it if I didn't already have a Road Standard, and if others hadn't already said they'd contacted the seller. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote: Wow never seen a Rivendell with tubing stickers before. Half step triple, always thought those things were weird. Brake release a bit rusty. Monochome paint? Front wheel looks out of place. Rear wheel 48 spokes? Odd, but probably effective. Minor quibbles really though. Nice ride. I'd own it, but it's not close to my size. Steal of the year for $550 complete. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff gre...@gmail.com wrote: This is my listing on Craigslist. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html Check it and and let me know if your interested. Thanks! Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
[RBW] Re: Broken Crank
Tank you Wes Ramos and Deacon Patrick. Those are exactly the sort of answers I was looking for. Wes, the article you linked to was great. I was wondering about that discoloration. Obviously there was a crack for some time slowly growing. Weather it is a flaw in manufacturing I don't know but since VO is willing to send a free replacement, I'm willing to give them a second chance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
It has the same fork crown, but not the same frame lugs as my '97 Road Standard. On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 10:09:36 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: 1st gen Rivendells (Road Standard, LongLow, All Rounder, and the elusive Mountain) had those long point fork lugs and Reynolds tubing stickers. 753 frame and 531 fork (753 fork blades were out of production), made by Waterford. Supposedly a custom butt profile (Grant's been at this a while). That said, I can't tell if this is a RS or LL, or a true custom. I don't know if the first gen customs were also built by Waterford. Regardless, it's a steal for a Riv with Frankenparts. I'd have chimed in on it if I didn't already have a Road Standard, and if others hadn't already said they'd contacted the seller. Yep, the chainstays do look pretty narrow. My Road Standard fits a 650 x 38 b tire, with less than 2 mm on either side at the chainstay. The fork legs are pretty narrow too. But it's a great bike on those tires. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not so sure about that, the chainstays look really narrow to me. http://images.craigslist.org/00V0V_iGpterKVsYZ_600x450.jpg On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Would be a pretty nice candidate for a 650B conversion. BB would be a bit low, but that can be dealt with. It may also be the record for cheapest Riv, especially one that says Rivendell on the DT. I got mine (in better shape with better components) for $750. Very, very happy with that purchase! Tim Gavin Cedar Rapids, IA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics
My derailleurs also freeze up. Usually I give the rear bar-end shifter a full-range shift, IE: from the smallest to largest cog and back, then shift to the gear I want. Moving the cable in the housing that much seems to help free it up. Usually the issue is moisture from warm air (inside) freezes when I go outside, and causes the cables to stick. I'm already using teflon-coated cables and high quality housing, but sometimes there is just a limit! Tomorrow the forecast is for 'extreme windchill, -41C'. Going to take out the fatlantis for a couple hours of sheltered trail riding so I can test out my new handlebar setup - switched the Noodles out for Albatross bars. They are better with bulky mitts and will let me run a way bigger basket. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kvNDtx9rYJM/VN403cGIpEI/Jtw/U5o1o9EvJKw/s1600/Feb%2Bs24o%2B2015%2B%28280%2Bof%2B70%29.jpg On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 8:38:46 AM UTC-6, gabe mcgann wrote: I hear you on the frozen brakes! I have to kick my derailleurs to get them to shift most mornings. Not the best long term care for the bike but it gets me there! gabe On Thursday, February 5, 2015 at 7:53:12 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote: Here's one from a grocery stop on tonight's evening commute home. Note the disengaged rear brake - all froze up with dry slush and crud :-\ KJ Toronto, Canada https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-oYsYWjCD3I0/VNQPeztkSnI/AQ8/OP-wW4uGaRg/s1600/IMG_2834.JPG On Wednesday, February 4, 2015 at 5:10:45 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote: There's a few in my photo stream... https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/ With abandon, Patrick On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 7:15:25 AM UTC-7, gabe mcgann wrote: So it appears that most folks on this group tend to be in friendly dry and warmish climates, so this is a call out to the snow belt riders. Any pictures of your snowy commutes? Sadly my Sam very much dislikes me at the moment. Her salt encrusted derailleurs/chain/frame/brakes/soul cry out for communal support! Finally enjoying Vermont's winter weather, gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Lars AndersEn archery on the Blug
Oops. Classically, I forgot the link. Here it is: http://www.skeptic.com/insight/pulling-a-fast-one-video-critique-of-a-viral-speed-archery-video/ Thanks to Amit for noticing. :) Aaron Always Forgetful Young The Dalles, OR On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote: I was really impressed when I saw the Lars video. However, I just saw this one that is worth checking out if you have 15 min. In short, another skilled archer myth busts Lars' claims, and does a really good job of it. It never hurts to maintain a healthy amount of skepticism. Aaron wet blanket Young The Dalles, OR On Saturday, February 7, 2015, William R. wroma...@optonline.net wrote: Bike, Book, Bow Hatchet? I've watched that video a few times. Amazing. And Lars is certainly take a Rivish approach to archery. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
I'm not so sure about that, the chainstays look really narrow to me. http://images.craigslist.org/00V0V_iGpterKVsYZ_600x450.jpg On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:20 AM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Would be a pretty nice candidate for a 650B conversion. BB would be a bit low, but that can be dealt with. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I concur; I have no need of it, but seeing a Riv at that price, I was even considering it, even if I just passed it along later. sounds like it might've found a good home! On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 10:09:36 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote: 1st gen Rivendells (Road Standard, LongLow, All Rounder, and the elusive Mountain) had those long point fork lugs and Reynolds tubing stickers. 753 frame and 531 fork (753 fork blades were out of production), made by Waterford. Supposedly a custom butt profile (Grant's been at this a while). That said, I can't tell if this is a RS or LL, or a true custom. I don't know if the first gen customs were also built by Waterford. Regardless, it's a steal for a Riv with Frankenparts. I'd have chimed in on it if I didn't already have a Road Standard, and if others hadn't already said they'd contacted the seller. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote: Wow never seen a Rivendell with tubing stickers before. Half step triple, always thought those things were weird. Brake release a bit rusty. Monochome paint? Front wheel looks out of place. Rear wheel 48 spokes? Odd, but probably effective. Minor quibbles really though. Nice ride. I'd own it, but it's not close to my size. Steal of the year for $550 complete. On Tue, Feb 10, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Gregg Vurbeff gre...@gmail.com wrote: This is my listing on Craigslist. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html Check it and and let me know if your interested. Thanks! Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is 2015 the year for...Rivendell sportwool jerseys?!
Niice! Thanks for the update, Dave! Got some old Woolistics starting to go, and definitely need a new seersucker this year. Looking forward to the new stuff! - Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB Jitensha Bar
Aw snap. Now you tell me! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Broken Crank
On Feb 12, 2015, at 2:31 AM, Benedikt neutralbuoya...@comcast.net wrote: I seem to remember seeing a similar post to this a few weeks/months ago but here it is ... My VO crank that had 13,000 miles on it busted this morning on my way into work. I was at a stop. Pushed down with my right foot, locked my left clip in, pushed down with the right and clunk crank arm came right off. Fortunately I wasn't going that fast, hammering down the road. What causes this? Do ALL cranks have a life span? These are an aluminum alloy. Here's a pretty good picture of the break - https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/16320815710/ That looks like it may have failed along a machining line, with the crack initiating where there was a step-up from the flat of the back of the arm to the curve up to the spider. You can see another line between the arm and the spider. It may have been enough to cause a stress riser, especially if the alloy was not well-chosen. The VO site indicates it is 7075 but does not indicate whether it is one of the heat-treated varieties; this seems to be a pretty standard alloy for bike cranks. These sorts of failure are very, very serious and can in fact be fatal, if the crank breaks and dumps you in front of a moving vehicle- they almost always break when you are standing on them. I would examine the replacement crank very closely before installing it to check for machining ridged, lines, etc. Looking at the photos on the VO site, the machining looks quite clean and well-polished. You want to see no abrupt transitions. All cranks do have a lifespan, in part because that is the nature of aluminum- it cracks after enough repeated load cycles. Once a crack starts on the face of the material, it propagates through the metal. A collection of crank failure photos: http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-001/000.html#Crank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Broken Crank
On Feb 12, 2015, at 3:01 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: The short answer is yes. Aluminum will eventually fatigue and fail, and 13k is pretty good mileage on a crank arm. 13K is IMHO terrible mileage on a crank before failure. Cranks should- and often do- go at least ten times that far. This was a premature failure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics
Hey, come on. Not cool !! :-) KJ On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 4:49:28 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, yes... winter riding. It can be taxing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/16323835740/ On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Not from here. It's beautifully sunny but the temperature at noon was +1 and the wind chill -20. I'm cosy indoors. Michael Westford, VT On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:15:25 AM UTC-5, gabe mcgann wrote: So it appears that most folks on this group tend to be in friendly dry and warmish climates, so this is a call out to the snow belt riders. Any pictures of your snowy commutes? Sadly my Sam very much dislikes me at the moment. Her salt encrusted derailleurs/chain/frame/brakes/soul cry out for communal support! Finally enjoying Vermont's winter weather, gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
Ha! This is exactly what the Rivendell frameset I'm selling looked like before the paint came off. Nice seat pin lug thing, eyelets, headbadge, etc. Hard to beat this CL model if the size is right for you. The bb on mine has two stamps: 95015 and EVEREST. Too bad no one wants to buy an unpainted 56cm version of this CL post. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:24 AM, 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote: Joe, did you buy it? If you did, enjoy! I can't imagine it will last. I sent an email about it. I'd love to get ahold of that bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics
Not from here. It's beautifully sunny but the temperature at noon was +1 and the wind chill -20. I'm cosy indoors. Michael Westford, VT On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:15:25 AM UTC-5, gabe mcgann wrote: So it appears that most folks on this group tend to be in friendly dry and warmish climates, so this is a call out to the snow belt riders. Any pictures of your snowy commutes? Sadly my Sam very much dislikes me at the moment. Her salt encrusted derailleurs/chain/frame/brakes/soul cry out for communal support! Finally enjoying Vermont's winter weather, gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] crashed: nitto vs. surly grudge match
Over-exuberance in a corner led me to crash yesterday, which in turn led to a grudge match between my Nitto handlebars/rack and my Surly frame, with some interesting results: http://handlebarchronicles.blogspot.com/2015/02/crashed-nitto-vs-surly.html. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics
Ah, yes... winter riding. It can be taxing: https://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/16323835740/ On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Not from here. It's beautifully sunny but the temperature at noon was +1 and the wind chill -20. I'm cosy indoors. Michael Westford, VT On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 9:15:25 AM UTC-5, gabe mcgann wrote: So it appears that most folks on this group tend to be in friendly dry and warmish climates, so this is a call out to the snow belt riders. Any pictures of your snowy commutes? Sadly my Sam very much dislikes me at the moment. Her salt encrusted derailleurs/chain/frame/brakes/soul cry out for communal support! Finally enjoying Vermont's winter weather, gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Cheers, David Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Is 2015 the year for...Rivendell sportwool jerseys?!
I would certainly purchase a Riv jersey. I tend to wear jerseys while riding because I find them very comfortable and the pockets in back are hugely useful. If it said Rivendell on it that would be just awesome. On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 2:12:49 PM UTC-6, Eric wrote: Will 2015 be the year Rivendell gives us a good Riv branded sportwool jersey? Or will they try to sell more us more splats, urban ponchos, hatchets and pirate shirts? Inquiring minds want to know! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Lars AndersEn archery on the Blug
Impressive! He should be in the Hunger Games, have a face off with Katniss. ;-( On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 9:52:09 AM UTC-8, A. L Young wrote: Oops. Classically, I forgot the link. Here it is: http://www.skeptic.com/insight/pulling-a-fast-one-video-critique-of-a-viral-speed-archery-video/ Thanks to Amit for noticing. :) Aaron Always Forgetful Young The Dalles, OR On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I was really impressed when I saw the Lars video. However, I just saw this one that is worth checking out if you have 15 min. In short, another skilled archer myth busts Lars' claims, and does a really good job of it. It never hurts to maintain a healthy amount of skepticism. Aaron wet blanket Young The Dalles, OR On Saturday, February 7, 2015, William R. wrom...@optonline.net javascript: wrote: Bike, Book, Bow Hatchet? I've watched that video a few times. Amazing. And Lars is certainly take a Rivish approach to archery. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: No more MUSA shorts?!?!?!
Grant addressed it on the blog today. He says they have grey, green and black. They're back on the site today but you can only choose black right now. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Broken Crank
The start of the break does look like it's along a machining line. In fact, it almost follow's it perfectly however there is no step up there. There is a step up on the crank just before it but the site of the fracture is a smooth curved transition up to the spider with a little machining. I examined the crank on the left side very closely and (IMHO) it's in great condition. It does look and feel a bit more polished then the crank that failed. - Brian On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 11:45:22 AM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote: On Feb 12, 2015, at 2:31 AM, Benedikt neutral...@comcast.net javascript: wrote: I seem to remember seeing a similar post to this a few weeks/months ago but here it is ... My VO crank that had 13,000 miles on it busted this morning on my way into work. I was at a stop. Pushed down with my right foot, locked my left clip in, pushed down with the right and clunk crank arm came right off. Fortunately I wasn't going that fast, hammering down the road. What causes this? Do ALL cranks have a life span? These are an aluminum alloy. Here's a pretty good picture of the break - https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/16320815710/ That looks like it may have failed along a machining line, with the crack initiating where there was a step-up from the flat of the back of the arm to the curve up to the spider. You can see another line between the arm and the spider. It may have been enough to cause a stress riser, especially if the alloy was not well-chosen. The VO site indicates it is 7075 but does not indicate whether it is one of the heat-treated varieties; this seems to be a pretty standard alloy for bike cranks. These sorts of failure are very, very serious and can in fact be fatal, if the crank breaks and dumps you in front of a moving vehicle- they almost always break when you are standing on them. I would examine the replacement crank very closely before installing it to check for machining ridged, lines, etc. Looking at the photos on the VO site, the machining looks quite clean and well-polished. You want to see no abrupt transitions. All cranks do have a lifespan, in part because that is the nature of aluminum- it cracks after enough repeated load cycles. Once a crack starts on the face of the material, it propagates through the metal. A collection of crank failure photos: http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-001/000.html#Crank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
In the range of common bicycle tubing, the rule of thumb is one step in diameter changes deflection about the same as two steps in thickness. So, a 25.4 (non-OS) top tube in 9-6-9 will flex about the same as a 28.6 (OS) top tube in 7-4-7. The OS tube will be a little lighter, but the non-OS tube will be tougher (if the steels are similar). Of course, then there's number of top tubes to consider! Best, joe broach portland, or Thanks for posting this fascinating tid-bit of information. Frame design has become a particular interest of mine and I enjoy learning things like this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: How do you clean you bike below freezing?
I like the idea of a once over with a wire brush. Gets the debris off. I keep a container of 40 wt (or higher) motor oil in the garage and use an old toothbrush to dress the chain. Works well. You do want much oil on the chain. Just enough to keep rust at bay. Pay particular attention to the jockey wheels on the derailer. They tend to get cruddy with crud when run in snow. On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 8:10:15 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I generally leave my bike cleaning to the rain, same as we’ve always done for our cars. But snow melting in the garage after accumulating on the drivetrain makes it rusty. Should I just keep a steel brush out there to clean it off after? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Broken Crank
Thinking back over the last 6 months or so I do seem to remember an occasional tink sort of sound and feel in the downward stroke of the right crank. Could this have been a tell tale sign of the crank cracking ever so little bit more? I couldn't think of anything else in that area of the drive train that would cause this. Bottom bracket, chain ring bolts, etc. were all buttoned up nice tidy. On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 12:31:07 AM UTC-8, Benedikt wrote: I seem to remember seeing a similar post to this a few weeks/months ago but here it is ... My VO crank that had 13,000 miles on it busted this morning on my way into work. I was at a stop. Pushed down with my right foot, locked my left clip in, pushed down with the right and clunk crank arm came right off. Fortunately I wasn't going that fast, hammering down the road. What causes this? Do ALL cranks have a life span? These are an aluminum alloy. Here's a pretty good picture of the break - https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/16320815710/ - Brian in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Broken Crank
I'll betcha that was it. It's a bummer that it snapped, but very cool of VO to send you a new one. On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 9:30:18 PM UTC-8, Benedikt wrote: Thinking back over the last 6 months or so I do seem to remember an occasional tink sort of sound and feel in the downward stroke of the right crank. Could this have been a tell tale sign of the crank cracking ever so little bit more? I couldn't think of anything else in that area of the drive train that would cause this. Bottom bracket, chain ring bolts, etc. were all buttoned up nice tidy. On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 12:31:07 AM UTC-8, Benedikt wrote: I seem to remember seeing a similar post to this a few weeks/months ago but here it is ... My VO crank that had 13,000 miles on it busted this morning on my way into work. I was at a stop. Pushed down with my right foot, locked my left clip in, pushed down with the right and clunk crank arm came right off. Fortunately I wasn't going that fast, hammering down the road. What causes this? Do ALL cranks have a life span? These are an aluminum alloy. Here's a pretty good picture of the break - https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/16320815710/ - Brian in Seattle -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!
Patrick, Would you mind talking about what you mean by: entering life as fully as possible is brain therapy,? Interested to know what you mean by this. Sounds exciting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!
Ah Patrick, after a day dealing with customers who must have been practising do it yourself brain surgery, I take out my bike and attack a hill. i put every last ounce of exertion left in my 68yo body into conquering a couple of small hills on the coast here in Wollongong and I work up some speed on the cycle(psycho)path alongside the University and i come home dripping with sweat and feeling at peace with the world. After dinner, I catch the seven o'clock news and look at some poor raving nutter and think there but for the grace of a bicycle go I. George Millwood Atlantis No 93 Wollongong NSW Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.
I have been eyeing the Hunqapillar for a few years and have decided to I need to take a step closer to actually getting one: determining my size. I'm a hair under 6' tall, and not sure if I qualify as long-legged or not. PBH is 90. Pretty sure I'd be perfect for a 56 Hunq, but since that little dream boat doesn't exist and I can't spring for a custom, I need to figure out which one of the available models fits me best. That being said, is there anyone on the list in Austin, TX who would be able to let me test-ride your 54 or 58 Hunq? Thanks, all. - Mike in Austin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.
i think 54 would be too small. i am 5'9-5'10 with 86 pbh and i have a lot of stand over clearance on my 54cm. agree with patrick though. brian at riv will tell you exactly what you need. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: How do you clean you bike below freezing?
don't use your tongue http://billlucey.typepad.com/.a/6a011570c3de61970c01a3faf29ab3970b-pi On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 8:10:15 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I generally leave my bike cleaning to the rain, same as we’ve always done for our cars. But snow melting in the garage after accumulating on the drivetrain makes it rusty. Should I just keep a steel brush out there to clean it off after? With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Broken Crank
I agree, it started right in the middle on the inside of the arm at the machined fillet. On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 7:07:54 PM UTC-6, Benedikt wrote: The start of the break does look like it's along a machining line. In fact, it almost follow's it perfectly however there is no step up there. There is a step up on the crank just before it but the site of the fracture is a smooth curved transition up to the spider with a little machining. I examined the crank on the left side very closely and (IMHO) it's in great condition. It does look and feel a bit more polished then the crank that failed. - Brian On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 11:45:22 AM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote: On Feb 12, 2015, at 2:31 AM, Benedikt neutral...@comcast.net wrote: I seem to remember seeing a similar post to this a few weeks/months ago but here it is ... My VO crank that had 13,000 miles on it busted this morning on my way into work. I was at a stop. Pushed down with my right foot, locked my left clip in, pushed down with the right and clunk crank arm came right off. Fortunately I wasn't going that fast, hammering down the road. What causes this? Do ALL cranks have a life span? These are an aluminum alloy. Here's a pretty good picture of the break - https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/16320815710/ That looks like it may have failed along a machining line, with the crack initiating where there was a step-up from the flat of the back of the arm to the curve up to the spider. You can see another line between the arm and the spider. It may have been enough to cause a stress riser, especially if the alloy was not well-chosen. The VO site indicates it is 7075 but does not indicate whether it is one of the heat-treated varieties; this seems to be a pretty standard alloy for bike cranks. These sorts of failure are very, very serious and can in fact be fatal, if the crank breaks and dumps you in front of a moving vehicle- they almost always break when you are standing on them. I would examine the replacement crank very closely before installing it to check for machining ridged, lines, etc. Looking at the photos on the VO site, the machining looks quite clean and well-polished. You want to see no abrupt transitions. All cranks do have a lifespan, in part because that is the nature of aluminum- it cracks after enough repeated load cycles. Once a crack starts on the face of the material, it propagates through the metal. A collection of crank failure photos: http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-001/000.html#Crank -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: How do you clean you bike below freezing?
o ate! Aaaah-ry. Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!
This past week we’ve noticed a baby-step miracle healing, and as near as I can figure, the Quickbeam specifically plays a role. It’s nuanced and I’ll understand if you don’t read it, but I think it’s pretty amazing (doesn’t the recipient of a miracle always?! Grin.) and have yet to fully grasp all the ramifications if indeed it is what it seems to be. One of my challenges with my bludgeoned brain has been (and still is, but perhaps less so now) that when I encounter something that cuts through my brain like a knife through butter (laundry scents, diesel engines, ATV’s, chain saws, rude drivers, etc.), my adrenaline kicks in and bakes my brain and takes me days or weeks to recover. It looks like that may have dramatically decreased. I took an adrenaline hit earlier this week (not having any brain cushion, we expected a week plus recovery). I day recovery, and I got out for a recovery bike/run on that day! Then yesterday, I was riding errands (three stops, a record for me!) and after the Valentine’s Day bottle of wine store in the moronically played out parking lot I headed home through a veritable gauntlet of egit drivers, including one police SUV. It’s hard to be a biker in a smallish town not played out for bikes at all in the winter running errands and using the bike in a practical way when no one looks for people on bikes. Anyway, triggered my adrenaline off the scale (I was safe the whole time, just very angry). Figured this would be at least a week of recovery. Today? Recovery morning, wee 8 mile bike ride this afternoon. Feeling adrenaline free now. This is bizarre. This has been over 13 years coming. If you’ve stuck with this this long, you may as well hear the theory and why I suspect the QB is partly responsible. I used to avoid pushing my exertion level above an aerobic threshold level because it triggered my adrenaline. I learned to run up hills below that level so I didn’t trigger adrenaline. I couldn’t explain to myself or anyone else why I wanted a QB, why I felt a QB was different enough to warrant it being purchased and ridden beyond the Hunqaillar. After all, it is a bike and really, is that so very different? Yet I bought it anyway, dipping into our therapy account to do so (entering life as fully as possible is brain therapy, so my therapy account is put to unique use by most standards). My theory is this: having one gear to ride up hills pushed me regularly past that threshold that triggered my adrenaline. Yet it didn’t trigger it. Over the past year, my body learned that stress is not cause for releasing adrenaline. And somehow that seems to have helped with adrenaline recovery as well. How cool is that? Possible ramifications may include ability to withstand a few ATV’s on bikepacking trips without having to bail out early? I don’t know. But with my wife sick with the flu we all had earlier, I’ll likely be doing more errands this weekend. Grin. So perhaps this mini-miracle is co-sponsored by Quickbeam, Rivendell, and Grant. Grin. may God startle you with joy! With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.
Mike, My PBH is 90cm and I love my 62 Hunqapillar. I like my frames on the larger side (my Quickbeam is 66). You'd be just fine on a 58. But talk with the folks at Rivendell. They will steer you right. I know how it feels ordering a frame without riding it, but they really do have the remote sizing thing down with the magic bullet of PBH and height. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 6:47:13 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote: I have been eyeing the Hunqapillar for a few years and have decided to I need to take a step closer to actually getting one: determining my size. I'm a hair under 6' tall, and not sure if I qualify as long-legged or not. PBH is 90. Pretty sure I'd be perfect for a 56 Hunq, but since that little dream boat doesn't exist and I can't spring for a custom, I need to figure out which one of the available models fits me best. That being said, is there anyone on the list in Austin, TX who would be able to let me test-ride your 54 or 58 Hunq? Thanks, all. - Mike in Austin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] How do you clean you bike below freezing?
I generally leave my bike cleaning to the rain, same as we’ve always done for our cars. But snow melting in the garage after accumulating on the drivetrain makes it rusty. Should I just keep a steel brush out there to clean it off after? With abandon, Patrick www.MindYourHeadCoop.org www.OurHolyConception.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!
Fantastic news, Patrick! I have profound gratefulness for the medicinal benefits of my bicycle, and can not explain how or why it works so well. I hope you continue to enjoy the benefits you experienced recently. Chris Johnson Sanger, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Lars AndersEn archery on the Blug
+1 on a healthy dose of skepticism. I saw the same debunk video. Either way Lars is a great trick archer. ~Hugh On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 6:02:09 PM UTC-8, A. L Young wrote: I was really impressed when I saw the Lars video. However, I just saw this one that is worth checking out if you have 15 min. In short, another skilled archer myth busts Lars' claims, and does a really good job of it. It never hurts to maintain a healthy amount of skepticism. Aaron wet blanket Young The Dalles, OR On Saturday, February 7, 2015, William R. wrom...@optonline.net javascript: wrote: Bike, Book, Bow Hatchet? I've watched that video a few times. Amazing. And Lars is certainly take a Rivish approach to archery. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?
Hunqapillar frames are made by Waterford. The $300 savings comes from the fork being made in Taiwan. On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 8:45:39 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote: I recall reading that the Hunq used Kaisei heat treated tubing in 9-6-9 OS. This tubing has a higher tensile strength than Ox Plat which is what the Atlantis uses. Which only means it's more resistant to denting and not any stiffer. I also thought that the Hunq's were made in Taiwan and not at Waterford like the Atlantis. ~mike Carlsbad Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Winter/Snowy pics
They are not too bad, it all depends on the type of snow. They did turn out to be a little tall for the Sam's clearance so I had to remove my fenders until I can afford to buy a shorter studded equivalent. Currently the crown keeps the snow off the lugs! :) That all being said the do ride really well through the mess! g On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 4:34:38 PM UTC-5, David Pulsipher wrote: great pics - how do those tires take on the snow? On Monday, February 2, 2015 at 8:15:25 AM UTC-6, gabe mcgann wrote: So it appears that most folks on this group tend to be in friendly dry and warmish climates, so this is a call out to the snow belt riders. Any pictures of your snowy commutes? Sadly my Sam very much dislikes me at the moment. Her salt encrusted derailleurs/chain/frame/brakes/soul cry out for communal support! Finally enjoying Vermont's winter weather, gabe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Custom Complete Bike....$550
I called it a custom because the original owner told me that back in '96, he called Grant and gave him his measurements and the bike was made for him. He said that back then it cost him $1700! So it may not be a custom or it may not, just don't know. The original owner is 80+ years old and had to give up cycling because of a leg injury. He used this bike to bike all over Europe following many of the tours and called out mountain passes that I'd never even heard of and I've lived in France for years. It was a sad moment to take the bike away from him at least for me, he seemed like he didn't care but with all those memories tied into this bike, I didn't believe him. I think he's in a lot of paint with his leg. On Tuesday, February 10, 2015 at 12:46:13 PM UTC-8, Gregg wrote: This is my listing on Craigslist. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/bik/4883409155.html Check it and and let me know if your interested. Thanks! Gregg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!
Lungimsam, early on after my 8th+ concussion, I was told I needed cognitive therapy at least three times a week. I also did vestibular therapy. Essentially these therapies all tried to recreate the circumstances of life in an artificial environment and try and get me to do what I couldn't do. I saw multiple problems with this approach. First, the cost to get me to, through, and home from each therapy session was significant. My wife had to drive me, taking her away from her work at home for at least three hours (90 minutes of driving plus an hour there), my cost in brain energy (I didn't have enough for the rest of the day, and needed time to recover for a week plus, but was being seen every other day during the week), and the cost of repeatedly focusing all that brain energy on what I couldn't do. If it helps, the main issues I experience with my brain injury are various cognitive deficits, including little short term memory, variable brain fatigue due to inability to filter out sensory input, and constant neurological vertigo on two axes (like being in a twirling, twisting seat in a roller coaster that goes any direction at any time). I realized I had the perfect therapy environment at home: young kids often creating chaos. I created a sanctuary so I had a place to go and recover as needed (it also became the place I learned to go before my TBI rage hit, when I was getting over stimulated). I also focused on things I could do rather than things I couldn't. a minute or two with my kids (this has expanded over the years to being up to an hour at times with the wee ones, we have four now, and doing multi-day bikepacking trips with the older ones), hiking, running trails, and biking remote roads and trails, writing, reading, etc. What I discovered is that by focusing on what I can do and what I love doing, I engage my brain, accomplish something real, and also push the periphery of my capacity, developing new pathways. Also, my vestibular therapist early on said he'd done all he could for me and the best thing I could do was continue to hike my mountain trails. I've come to call this approach chronic brain injury recovery (though it seems to apply to any chronic health issue), and now understand that the medical world is completely geared for acute care of trauma, including their therapy, which is why it is geared and focused wrong for chronic recovery. At some point early on (3-24 months) in an injury like this, there is a shift from acute recovery to chronic recovery, and the approach also needs to shift. Instead, the system keeps people in acute therapy too long, everyone gets frustrated by their lack of progress, and they get told their healing has stopped, they're as good as they'll get, or that they're regressing. Nonsense! The end result of this approach after 13 years is a cumulative effect from a multitude of baby-step miracles that individually may not seem like much (though they each have made an enormous impact of our family's quality of life), but looking back at where I was 13 years ago the difference is stunning. A lot of the improvement is due to coping strategies (I can run and bike despite the vertigo not because it has improved any, but because of deeply developing my proprioceptive system by going barefoot.), but a lot of these improvements are organic to my neural structure either healing or developing around the damaged areas. I look forward to seeing where the next 13, 26, 41 years take me! Grin. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!
Och, George! The problem isn't the frustrations of the day, but watching the news! Grin. I'm delighted the bike helps wash you clean of the residue from others inane-ity! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
