[RBW] Re: Advice needed: 7 sp freewheel on a 126mm hub for Rivvy build. Also, 27'' to 26 conversion experiment and pre-report.

2015-02-14 Thread Jim M.
The simplest solution would be to set the high gear limit screw so the 
derailer won't shift to the smallest cog. 

jim m
wc ca 

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 6:14:53 AM UTC-8, cbone97 wrote:

 After selling my Sam (loved it but always wanted fatter tires), I'm 
 rebuilding a 1984 Trek 420 I picked up in a thrift store in a Rivesque 
 fashion: dirt drop stem, B17, saddlesack, fancy Tektro drillium levers, 
 SunRace thumbie, etc etc.

 The bike's original wheels are 27.  As I'm a husky lad, I decided to 
 attempt a conversion to 26 wheels so as to accommodate the fattest tires 
 possible.  I had a rear wheel built to fit the original spacing of 126mm 
 (Velocity NoBS rim on a VO hi-flange 126mm freewheel hub), and I can fit a 
 Michelin Country Rock 1.75 in the back - so far so good.  At this point 
 you're wondering what brakes make this possible; unfortunately not my 
 Silvers, but Tektro makes these huge beach cruiser calipers which make this 
 possible.  Not sure of the model number -  I've seen them on other posts on 
 here re: GP having tinkered with them at some point or the like.

 Anyway, here's where I'd appreciate your advice:  I put a Shimano 7 sp 
 Megarange freewheel on the hub the other day and the smallest cog rubs the 
 derailer mounting bolt.  I haven't put a chain on yet but can clearly see 
 that a chain on the smallest cog would smash against the chainstay.   
  Everything I read before ordering the fw said a 126mm hub could do a 7 sp 
 fw no problem, so where did I go wrong?  Am I mistaken, any chance I just 
 don't have the freewheel screwed down tight enough,  should I just replace 
 it with a 6 sp freewheel, have a bike shop remove the smallest cog 
 (assuming it's not what holds the others on...), or what?  I understand the 
 wheel could be re-dished, but shouldn't it have been built with dish (or 
 lack of) that assumes it would be used with a 7 sp fw?

 fwiw, this bike is being built to ride rails to trails - single ring up 
 front, probably wouldn't miss the little cog...simplicity is the goal.   

 Once it's built I'll post pics and give a report on whether 27 to 26 
 conversion is a good idea.  If not, I'll have a pretty unique wheel for 
 sale...

 Thanks!


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[RBW] WTB - Cheap 32mmx700c tires

2015-02-14 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I've got an old Bob Jackson frame I'm hoping to squeeze 32mm tire's into but 
I'm not sure it'll work.  Anyone have some old or worn tiresets they'd let go 
for cheap?  Doesn't have to have a ton of life left... Hit me up off list, 
thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Trying to help a friend with his RAM, what are the largest fenders you can run and largest tires?

2015-02-14 Thread Bruce Curry
I have VO 45 stainless fenders over 33 jack brown blues. It is very tight and I 
had to cut the daruma bolt short but still doable with an orange 64 ram. Bruce 

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[RBW] Re: Need to test ride a 54cm vs 58cm Hunq.

2015-02-14 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
I'm 5'10 and 89.5 PBH. That makes me long legged for my height. I fell between 
the 54 and 58 too. I got the 58 and it fits fine, although I don't like my 
Bullmoose cockpit so much. I ride the Homer and Roadeo 99% of the time. I'm 
between the 61 and 63 on those two, and have the 63 in both. They fit great but 
if I did it over I'd go with 61, just to get a bit more seat post and longer 
reach stem, but there is absolutely nothing wrong with my current fit on them. 
If you can come to CT you can ride my Hunqapillar! :)

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[RBW] Re: How do you clean you bike below freezing?

2015-02-14 Thread ascpgh
Here in the urban winter setting I have to pay attention when it gets to or 
less 15° because road slush and slop melted by sodium or mag chloride can 
be convinced to freeze by the agitation of being splashed or sprayed, 
slinging away enough of the liquid held to that state by the treatments, 
leaving the lofted lower ion-containing slush ready to affix anywhere it 
lands. You can have some odd accumulations when you get home. 

I clear fenders, forming stalactites on the DT cables and BB guide and also 
knock any of the accumulated stuff out of the cassette gaps so it doesn't 
freeze. My right foot and shin usually keep that in check unless things are 
nasty. Otherwise my fenders keep me very well protected and just keep my 
chain lubed and watch all of my fasteners. I use whatever chain oil I'm 
using and slather a drop all the heads to get a coating to protect from the 
effects of moisture and those salts.

Andy Cheatham 
Pittsburgh

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 8:10:15 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I generally leave my bike cleaning to the rain, same as we’ve always done 
 for our cars. But snow melting in the garage after accumulating on the 
 drivetrain makes it rusty. Should I just keep a steel brush out there to 
 clean it off after?

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org*
 *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org*
  


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[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

2015-02-14 Thread Michael Hechmer
Deacon, what good news to read from you.

Some people find cycling very stressful.  This is usually associated with a 
fear of falling and/or getting hit. My wife is like that but has overcome 
quite a bit of it, especially on the tandem where she has learned to not 
only tolerate but even enjoy, at least a little, downhills at 35 mph. 
 (Confession, for a few years I lied, understating our speed to ease her 
anxiety.)  For many other people cycling is a big stress reducer.  Perhaps 
over time your base level has come down and just like a lower resting heart 
rate gives more capacity to deal with increases before it becomes 
problematic.

I worked for 13 years as a chaplain at a major teaching hospital.  It was a 
super hi stress job.  I estimate I sat through more than a thousand deaths 
 and probably 5 or 10X that many families who were deeply fearful of 
impending loss.  Cycling was one of my lifelines.  I had a 15 mile commute 
each way and it allowed me to release much of the stored anxiety at the end 
of each day.  Of course there were moments of total rage, like the Saturday 
morning when a pickup truck made a hi speed right hand turn, coming from 
the left lane across the bike lane.  I wanted to kill at that moment.

I envy your ability / willingness, driven by need, to cycle all winter.  I 
used to cycle down to around 15 degrees or so (it's -20 this morning) but 
as I have gotten older I have no urge to ride in sub-freezing temperatures 
and the occasional mild day produces major slush. So, I don't ride in the 
winter any more.  I do miss it though and find managing emotional swings in 
the winter more challenging.  Heart-centerd meditation helps me to 
dis-identify with my emotions.  Snowshoeing when it warms above 10.

Keep doing what you are.  You seem to have great insight to what your body 
 brain need.  

Oh yea, and I got rid of the TV, so don't watch the news anymore

blessings,
Michael

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 2:47:30 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Lungimsam, early on after my 8th+ concussion, I was told I needed 
 cognitive therapy at least three times a week. I also did vestibular 
 therapy. Essentially these therapies all tried to recreate the 
 circumstances of life in an artificial environment and try and get me to do 
 what I couldn't do. I saw multiple problems with this approach. First, the 
 cost to get me to, through, and home from each therapy session was 
 significant. My wife had to drive me, taking her away from her work at home 
 for at least three hours (90 minutes of driving plus an hour there), my 
 cost in brain energy (I didn't have enough for the rest of the day, and 
 needed time to recover for a week plus, but was being seen every other day 
 during the week), and the cost of repeatedly focusing all that brain energy 
 on what I couldn't do. If it helps, the main issues I experience with my 
 brain injury are various cognitive deficits, including little short term 
 memory, variable brain fatigue due to inability to filter out sensory 
 input, and constant neurological vertigo on two axes (like being in a 
 twirling, twisting seat in a roller coaster that goes any direction at any 
 time).

 I realized I had the perfect therapy environment at home: young kids 
 often creating chaos. I created a sanctuary so I had a place to go and 
 recover as needed (it also became the place I learned to go before my TBI 
 rage hit, when I was getting over stimulated). I also focused on things I 
 could do rather than things I couldn't. a minute or two with my kids (this 
 has expanded over the years to being up to an hour at times with the wee 
 ones, we have four now, and doing multi-day bikepacking trips with the 
 older ones), hiking, running trails, and biking remote roads and trails, 
 writing, reading, etc. What I discovered is that by focusing on what I can 
 do and what I love doing, I engage my brain, accomplish something real, and 
 also push the periphery of my capacity, developing new pathways. Also, my 
 vestibular therapist early on said he'd done all he could for me and the 
 best thing I could do was continue to hike my mountain trails.

 I've come to call this approach chronic brain injury recovery (though it 
 seems to apply to any chronic health issue), and now understand that the 
 medical world is completely geared for acute care of trauma, including 
 their therapy, which is why it is geared and focused wrong for chronic 
 recovery. At some point early on (3-24 months) in an injury like this, 
 there is a shift from acute recovery to chronic recovery, and the approach 
 also needs to shift. Instead, the system keeps people in acute therapy 
 too long, everyone gets frustrated by their lack of progress, and they get 
 told their healing has stopped, they're as good as they'll get, or that 
 they're regressing. Nonsense!

 The end result of this approach after 13 years is a cumulative effect from 
 a multitude of baby-step miracles that 

[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

2015-02-14 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Patrick, thank you so much for sharing your miracle with us. This group is so 
wonderful in that we get to know  each other through our sharing of our love 
for our Rivendells and associated activities. So, having read so many of your 
posts, today's filled me with emotion. I bought my Homer Hilsen after double 
knee replacements, so I know how it has helped my healing. I don't think the 
exertion from the QB would have helped nearly as much without the joy it 
provided as well. I wonder, has anyone from the medical/therapy community tried 
to draw from your experience to learn new techniques to help others? Blessings, 
Patrick!

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[RBW] Trying to help a friend with his RAM, what are the largest fenders you can run and largest tires?

2015-02-14 Thread Geoffrey
Hey Guys and gals,

I've been searching and found a couple things regarding my question.  I 
found Leslie's bike that has 45mm fenders and pasela 32's.  Does anyone run 
Compass tires 32's and some fenders?  Is it possible?  Leslies comment that 
there isn't even enough room for a twig or small piece of gravel raised 
concern.  That doesn't sound very practical.  Maybe someone else's fenders 
fit better and allow for 32's and some clearance?  Any info or help would 
be appreciated!

Thanks,

Geoff

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[RBW] Re: Broken Crank

2015-02-14 Thread Johan Larsson
I'm curious about how the backside of the arm looks at the crack, the side 
that is towards the table on the pictures. It's not possible to see the 
radius of the inner corner otherwise.

Johan Larsson,
Sweden

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[RBW] Re: Trying to help a friend with his RAM, what are the largest fenders you can run and largest tires?

2015-02-14 Thread David Banzer
Discussed recently here: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/ZPMAl9rymNQ - 
there seems to have been some variation in clearance with production runs 
on the Ram and it's cheaper siblings (Rom and Redwood).
David
Chicago

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 7:53:40 AM UTC-6, Geoffrey wrote:

 Hey Guys and gals,

 I've been searching and found a couple things regarding my question.  I 
 found Leslie's bike that has 45mm fenders and pasela 32's.  Does anyone run 
 Compass tires 32's and some fenders?  Is it possible?  Leslies comment that 
 there isn't even enough room for a twig or small piece of gravel raised 
 concern.  That doesn't sound very practical.  Maybe someone else's fenders 
 fit better and allow for 32's and some clearance?  Any info or help would 
 be appreciated!

 Thanks,

 Geoff


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Re: [RBW] Re: Trying to help a friend with his RAM, what are the largest fenders you can run and largest tires?

2015-02-14 Thread James Warren

Awesome. That shortlived final version of the Ram! With the mini-rack 
braze-ons, Hilsen/Saluki lugs, and that beautiful green. This is a pretty 
special bike.

It's funny that part of the reason the model is now sleeping forever is that 
other current Riv models (including the Roadeo) surpass it in tire clearance. 
Rivs have evolved, but in the grand scheme of things in the bike world, these 
Ram models will always be kickass bikes that beat most of what's out there. My 
orange one gets compliments from strangers on about 75% of the long rides I 
take it on.

-Jim W.


On Feb 14, 2015, at 8:10 AM, Leslie wrote:

 Whoo, from my Flickr account back in 2010? (Here?: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/set-72157623199721925
  )
 
 Yeah, the Paselas were real snug;  if the air pressure wasn't just right, 
 it'd scuff on the inside of the fenders on any surface that wasn't glassy 
 smooth. I initially switched down to Ruffy Tuffys (28/29's).  For awhile, I 
 would run a Pasela on one end, and the RuffyTuffy on the other, differential 
 tire sizing.   Something around a 30 would be doable on both ends.The 
 Compass Chinook tire might be a great choice as it's a 28, or perhaps the GB 
 Cypres, as it runs closer to a 30.  Don't know how the Compass Stampede would 
 compare to the Paselas I was running.  Conversely, I could've tried other 
 fenders, might have had more success.I wanted to stick w/ my metals ones, 
 but if I'd gone to SKS or something else, might've been had a bit easier time 
 of sticking w/ the 32's. 
 
 FWIW, I ended up converting to 650b, so I could run Hetres, and I'm much 
 happier; but I wouldn't necessarily 'suggest' that someone do that, as it was 
 more work (building a different wheelset, swapping calipers),  it would be 
 easier just to run a smaller tire.  
 
 -L
 
 
 
 
 
 
 On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 8:53:40 AM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:
 Hey Guys and gals,
 
 I've been searching and found a couple things regarding my question.  I found 
 Leslie's bike that has 45mm fenders and pasela 32's.  Does anyone run Compass 
 tires 32's and some fenders?  Is it possible?  Leslies comment that there 
 isn't even enough room for a twig or small piece of gravel raised concern.  
 That doesn't sound very practical.  Maybe someone else's fenders fit better 
 and allow for 32's and some clearance?  Any info or help would be appreciated!
 
 Thanks,
 
 Geoff
 
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

2015-02-14 Thread Mike Schiller
the original Hunq frame was made in Taiwan and the fork made by Toyo in 
Japan. 

~mike

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 9:14:55 AM UTC-8, Braxton Colagross wrote:

 Hunqapillar frames are made by Waterford. The $300 savings comes from the 
 fork being made in Taiwan. 

 On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 8:45:39 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:

 I recall reading that the Hunq used Kaisei heat treated tubing in 9-6-9 
 OS.  This tubing has a higher tensile strength than Ox Plat which is what 
 the  Atlantis uses.  Which only means it's more resistant to denting and 
 not any stiffer.  I also thought that the Hunq's were made in Taiwan and 
 not at Waterford like the Atlantis.  

 ~mike
 Carlsbad Ca.




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[RBW] Re: Trying to help a friend with his RAM, what are the largest fenders you can run and largest tires?

2015-02-14 Thread Leslie
Whoo, from my Flickr account back in 2010? (Here?: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/4407972696/in/set-72157623199721925 
)

Yeah, the Paselas were real snug;  if the air pressure wasn't just right, 
it'd scuff on the inside of the fenders on any surface that wasn't glassy 
smooth. I initially switched down to Ruffy Tuffys (28/29's).  For awhile, I 
would run a Pasela on one end, and the RuffyTuffy on the other, 
differential tire sizing.   Something around a 30 would be doable on both 
ends.The Compass Chinook tire might be a great choice as it's a 28, or 
perhaps the GB Cypres, as it runs closer to a 30.  Don't know how the 
Compass Stampede would compare to the Paselas I was running.  Conversely, I 
could've tried other fenders, might have had more success.I wanted to 
stick w/ my metals ones, but if I'd gone to SKS or something else, might've 
been had a bit easier time of sticking w/ the 32's. 

FWIW, I ended up converting to 650b, so I could run Hetres, and I'm much 
happier; but I wouldn't necessarily 'suggest' that someone do that, as it 
was more work (building a different wheelset, swapping calipers),  it would 
be easier just to run a smaller tire.  

-L






On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 8:53:40 AM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:

 Hey Guys and gals,

 I've been searching and found a couple things regarding my question.  I 
 found Leslie's bike that has 45mm fenders and pasela 32's.  Does anyone run 
 Compass tires 32's and some fenders?  Is it possible?  Leslies comment that 
 there isn't even enough room for a twig or small piece of gravel raised 
 concern.  That doesn't sound very practical.  Maybe someone else's fenders 
 fit better and allow for 32's and some clearance?  Any info or help would 
 be appreciated!

 Thanks,

 Geoff


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Re: [RBW] Re: Bar Ends vs Paul Thumbies? Anyone tried both?

2015-02-14 Thread Kellie
Do you have to use Retroshift brake levers if you use their shifters or can 
you integrate their shifters into any brake lever?

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 8:17:05 AM UTC-8, Jim Bronson wrote:

 I would rather do retroshift than thumbies on drop bars.  But I think bar 
 ends are fine, yes I overshift sometimes accidentally, but it's not hard to 
 fix.

 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:41 PM, N. Llama nathan...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:

 Speaking of bar ends vs Thumbies, what are people's thoughts on the two 
 for drop bars? I'm reluctantly switching from downtube shifters on my 
 touring bike (not stable enough fully loaded and going fast on the highway) 
 and have had the idea of running thumbies instead of bar ends since I have 
 been in the bar end camp before and was bothered by the accidental shifts, 
 but I'm not sure how ergonomic or well thumbies would work. I've seen a few 
 pictures of people running thumbies on drop bars but there are others out 
 there saying that it's a no go.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bar Ends vs Paul Thumbies? Anyone tried both?

2015-02-14 Thread Leslie
On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 11:10:32 AM UTC-5, Kellie wrote:

 Do you have to use Retroshift brake levers if you use their shifters or 
 can you integrate their shifters into any brake lever?


Gevenalle, (was Retroshift), machines the Tektro levers to accept 
shifters... that's the key part.  You can use bar-end shifters or downtube 
shifters that you already have on Gevenalle levers.   

http://www.gevenalle.com/store/products/shifters/ 

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[RBW] Advice needed: 7 sp freewheel on a 126mm hub for Rivvy build. Also, 27'' to 26 conversion experiment and pre-report.

2015-02-14 Thread cbone97
After selling my Sam (loved it but always wanted fatter tires), I'm 
rebuilding a 1984 Trek 420 I picked up in a thrift store in a Rivesque 
fashion: dirt drop stem, B17, saddlesack, fancy Tektro drillium levers, 
SunRace thumbie, etc etc.

The bike's original wheels are 27.  As I'm a husky lad, I decided to 
attempt a conversion to 26 wheels so as to accommodate the fattest tires 
possible.  I had a rear wheel built to fit the original spacing of 126mm 
(Velocity NoBS rim on a VO hi-flange 126mm freewheel hub), and I can fit a 
Michelin Country Rock 1.75 in the back - so far so good.  At this point 
you're wondering what brakes make this possible; unfortunately not my 
Silvers, but Tektro makes these huge beach cruiser calipers which make this 
possible.  Not sure of the model number -  I've seen them on other posts on 
here re: GP having tinkered with them at some point or the like.

Anyway, here's where I'd appreciate your advice:  I put a Shimano 7 sp 
Megarange freewheel on the hub the other day and the smallest cog rubs the 
derailer mounting bolt.  I haven't put a chain on yet but can clearly see 
that a chain on the smallest cog would smash against the chainstay.   
 Everything I read before ordering the fw said a 126mm hub could do a 7 sp 
fw no problem, so where did I go wrong?  Am I mistaken, any chance I just 
don't have the freewheel screwed down tight enough,  should I just replace 
it with a 6 sp freewheel, have a bike shop remove the smallest cog 
(assuming it's not what holds the others on...), or what?  I understand the 
wheel could be re-dished, but shouldn't it have been built with dish (or 
lack of) that assumes it would be used with a 7 sp fw?

fwiw, this bike is being built to ride rails to trails - single ring up 
front, probably wouldn't miss the little cog...simplicity is the goal.   

Once it's built I'll post pics and give a report on whether 27 to 26 
conversion is a good idea.  If not, I'll have a pretty unique wheel for 
sale...

Thanks!

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[RBW] Re: How do you clean you bike below freezing?

2015-02-14 Thread Marc Irwin
I use a smal wisk broom to knock loose any snow.  If there is ice 
accumulated in the derailers, brakes or cogs, I will spray them lightly 
with windshield wiper fluid and wipe off the excess.  You can follow that 
with some WD-40 to drive the moisture away and keep the chain nice and oily 
with whatever you like.

Marc

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 9:10:15 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I generally leave my bike cleaning to the rain, same as we’ve always done 
 for our cars. But snow melting in the garage after accumulating on the 
 drivetrain makes it rusty. Should I just keep a steel brush out there to 
 clean it off after?

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[RBW] Re: Broken Crank

2015-02-14 Thread David Banzer
Kudos to VO for sending a replacement, but I think that should be the 
appropriate response from any manufacturer when a product fails 
prematurely. Did they mention anything else in their response? Such as a 
history of the particular crank failing or that they changed tooling due to 
these stress points?
It is nice that you'll have a replacement, but I'd be wary of a product 
that has failed. While you didn't get hurt this time, whose to say the 
replacement won't fail as well, and could have more damaging results.
Just being a skeptic this morning.
David
Chicago

On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 9:17:35 PM UTC-6, Benedikt wrote:

 Actually I sent VO an email with a picture of the crank. There response 
 was,What address do you want us to send your new replacement crank? 


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Re: [RBW] Advice needed: 7 sp freewheel on a 126mm hub for Rivvy build. Also, 27'' to 26 conversion experiment and pre-report.

2015-02-14 Thread Eric Norris
I've found that there is variation among freewheels in terms of how far 
outboard (toward the dropout) the small cog is. If you can, try another 
freewheel.

If that doesn't work, a quick fix is to place 1-2mm of washers on the end of 
the drive side axle. This will fix the rubbing problem. It will also move your 
wheel a little off center, but not enough for you to notice.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
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Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy

 On Feb 14, 2015, at 6:14 AM, cbone97 cbon...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Anyway, here's where I'd appreciate your advice:  I put a Shimano 7 sp 
 Megarange freewheel on the hub the other day and the smallest cog rubs the 
 derailer mounting bolt.  I haven't put a chain on yet but can clearly see 
 that a chain on the smallest cog would smash against the chainstay.

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[RBW] Re: Broken Crank

2015-02-14 Thread Geoffrey
That radius cut ends right where the crack begins which is what I'd expect. 
 That radius is there to relieve stress. Maybe a larger radius would help. 
 Im more heavy duty applications, that area would be shot peened to relieve 
more stress.  Glad that it happened at a red light and that VO is giving 
you great service.

On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 2:31:07 AM UTC-6, Benedikt wrote:

 I seem to remember seeing a similar post to this a few weeks/months ago 
 but here it is ...
 My VO crank that had 13,000 miles on it busted this morning on my way into 
 work. I was at a stop. Pushed down with my right foot, locked my left clip 
 in, pushed down with the right and clunk crank arm came right off. 
 Fortunately I wasn't going that fast, hammering down the road. What causes 
 this? Do ALL cranks have a life span? These are an aluminum alloy. 
 Here's a pretty good picture of the break - 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/16320815710/

 - Brian in Seattle


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[RBW] Re: Advice needed: 7 sp freewheel on a 126mm hub for Rivvy build. Also, 27'' to 26 conversion experiment and pre-report.

2015-02-14 Thread David Banzer
Based on the geometry info here: 
http://vintage-trek.com/TrekBrochure1984Touring.htm - that Trek model has a 
bottom bracket drop of 72mm, making it an okay candidate for a 650b(584mm) 
conversion, if you plan on riding just roads, or are very careful with 
pedal strikes on trails. While you technically can fit 26(559mm) wheels 
and tires and found brakes that reach, you're going to be striking pedals 
on corners.
David
Chicago

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 8:14:53 AM UTC-6, cbone97 wrote:

 After selling my Sam (loved it but always wanted fatter tires), I'm 
 rebuilding a 1984 Trek 420 I picked up in a thrift store in a Rivesque 
 fashion: dirt drop stem, B17, saddlesack, fancy Tektro drillium levers, 
 SunRace thumbie, etc etc.

 The bike's original wheels are 27.  As I'm a husky lad, I decided to 
 attempt a conversion to 26 wheels so as to accommodate the fattest tires 
 possible.  I had a rear wheel built to fit the original spacing of 126mm 
 (Velocity NoBS rim on a VO hi-flange 126mm freewheel hub), and I can fit a 
 Michelin Country Rock 1.75 in the back - so far so good.  At this point 
 you're wondering what brakes make this possible; unfortunately not my 
 Silvers, but Tektro makes these huge beach cruiser calipers which make this 
 possible.  Not sure of the model number -  I've seen them on other posts on 
 here re: GP having tinkered with them at some point or the like.

 Anyway, here's where I'd appreciate your advice:  I put a Shimano 7 sp 
 Megarange freewheel on the hub the other day and the smallest cog rubs the 
 derailer mounting bolt.  I haven't put a chain on yet but can clearly see 
 that a chain on the smallest cog would smash against the chainstay.   
  Everything I read before ordering the fw said a 126mm hub could do a 7 sp 
 fw no problem, so where did I go wrong?  Am I mistaken, any chance I just 
 don't have the freewheel screwed down tight enough,  should I just replace 
 it with a 6 sp freewheel, have a bike shop remove the smallest cog 
 (assuming it's not what holds the others on...), or what?  I understand the 
 wheel could be re-dished, but shouldn't it have been built with dish (or 
 lack of) that assumes it would be used with a 7 sp fw?

 fwiw, this bike is being built to ride rails to trails - single ring up 
 front, probably wouldn't miss the little cog...simplicity is the goal.   

 Once it's built I'll post pics and give a report on whether 27 to 26 
 conversion is a good idea.  If not, I'll have a pretty unique wheel for 
 sale...

 Thanks!


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[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

2015-02-14 Thread ascpgh
Strong work Patrick, be it yours, your Rivs, Grant and all those 
responsible, or the simple grace of it. The line about being of sound mind 
an body should have more concern in life than it does in documenting your 
last intentions. 

My the increase in your tolerances permit you to take in more of life that 
had been on the other side, labelled triggers.

Andy Cheatham
PIttsburgh

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 7:41:12 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 This past week we’ve noticed a baby-step miracle healing, and as near as I 
 can figure, the Quickbeam specifically plays a role. It’s nuanced and I’ll 
 understand if you don’t read it, but I think it’s pretty amazing (doesn’t 
 the recipient of a miracle always?! Grin.) and have yet to fully grasp all 
 the ramifications if indeed it is what it seems to be.

 One of my challenges with my bludgeoned brain has been (and still is, but 
 perhaps less so now) that when I encounter something that cuts through my 
 brain like a knife through butter (laundry scents, diesel engines, ATV’s, 
 chain saws, rude drivers, etc.), my adrenaline kicks in and bakes my brain 
 and takes me days or weeks to recover. It looks like that may have 
 dramatically decreased.

 I took an adrenaline hit earlier this week (not having any brain cushion, 
 we expected a week plus recovery). I day recovery, and I got out for a 
 recovery bike/run on that day!

 Then yesterday, I was riding errands (three stops, a record for me!) and 
 after the Valentine’s Day bottle of wine store in the moronically played 
 out parking lot I headed home through a veritable gauntlet of egit drivers, 
 including one police SUV. It’s hard to be a biker in a smallish town not 
 played out for bikes at all in the winter running errands and using the 
 bike in a practical way when no one looks for people on bikes. Anyway, 
 triggered my adrenaline off the scale (I was safe the whole time, just very 
 angry). Figured this would be at least a week of recovery. Today? Recovery 
 morning, wee 8 mile bike ride this afternoon. Feeling adrenaline free now. 
 This is bizarre. This has been over 13 years coming.

 If you’ve stuck with this this long, you may as well hear the theory and 
 why I suspect the QB is partly responsible. I used to avoid pushing my 
 exertion level above an aerobic threshold level because it triggered my 
 adrenaline. I learned to run up hills below that level so I didn’t trigger 
 adrenaline. I couldn’t explain to myself or anyone else why I wanted a QB, 
 why I felt a QB was different enough to warrant it being purchased and 
 ridden beyond the Hunqaillar. After all, it is a bike and really, is that 
 so very different? Yet I bought it anyway, dipping into our therapy account 
 to do so (entering life as fully as possible is brain therapy, so my 
 therapy account is put to unique use by most standards).

 My theory is this: having one gear to ride up hills pushed me regularly 
 past that threshold that triggered my adrenaline. Yet it didn’t trigger it. 
 Over the past year, my body learned that stress is not cause for releasing 
 adrenaline. And somehow that seems to have helped with adrenaline recovery 
 as well. How cool is that?

 Possible ramifications may include ability to withstand a few ATV’s on 
 bikepacking trips without having to bail out early? I don’t know. But with 
 my wife sick with the flu we all had earlier, I’ll likely be doing more 
 errands this weekend. Grin.

 So perhaps this mini-miracle is co-sponsored by Quickbeam, Rivendell, and 
 Grant. Grin. may God startle you with joy!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunq - what's the real difference?

2015-02-14 Thread 'Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch
Speaking of Hunqa tubing: 2 1/2 years ago I bought a 58cm kidney and dolphin 
Hunqa from Riv. This was after they changed the color to green, so I felt lucky 
to pick it up. Well, the seat tube will not fit the 26.8 seat post like it 
should. I had to find a cheapy 26.2 to fit which means I can't use a Nitto 
because they don't make that size. I exchanged emails with Grant and Keven 
about it. After giving Keven the serial number, he told me that it was a 
Taiwanese/Japanese Toyo bike. No one can really figure out why the seat post 
doesn't fit. There are no burrs inside the tube and it appears to be round, not 
oversized. It's not a huge deal to me except for having to use the non-Nitto 
post. It's been suggested to ream the tube or turn down a 26.8 post. Maybe the 
seat tube didn't get opened up to accept a 26.8 post? Thoughts?

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[RBW] Re: Trying to help a friend with his RAM, what are the largest fenders you can run and largest tires?

2015-02-14 Thread ascpgh
I put some acquired Honjo HS-27 fenders on my Ram and am running Conti 
Gatorskin 700 x 32s, renowned for being 29mm on the rim, under them, proof: 
https://plus.google.com/photos/109160474815391208206/albums/5910070344477760609?authkey=CPibubXxl-b3ag

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 7:53:40 AM UTC-6, Geoffrey wrote:

 Hey Guys and gals,

 I've been searching and found a couple things regarding my question.  I 
 found Leslie's bike that has 45mm fenders and pasela 32's.  Does anyone run 
 Compass tires 32's and some fenders?  Is it possible?  Leslies comment that 
 there isn't even enough room for a twig or small piece of gravel raised 
 concern.  That doesn't sound very practical.  Maybe someone else's fenders 
 fit better and allow for 32's and some clearance?  Any info or help would 
 be appreciated!

 Thanks,

 Geoff


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[RBW] Re: No more MUSA shorts?!?!?!

2015-02-14 Thread Geoffrey
A little off topic but still related.  MUSA pants, I like the old straight 
leg ones so much more than the new tapered ones.  I've pretty much worn 
them all out though. 

On Friday, February 13, 2015 at 6:30:35 PM UTC-6, Tim wrote:

 Grant addressed it on the blog today. He says they have grey, green and 
 black. They're back on the site today but you can only choose black right 
 now. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Broken Crank

2015-02-14 Thread Brian Pickart
David, VO said they'd never seen anything like that before.
 On Feb 14, 2015 7:25 AM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:

 Kudos to VO for sending a replacement, but I think that should be the
 appropriate response from any manufacturer when a product fails
 prematurely. Did they mention anything else in their response? Such as a
 history of the particular crank failing or that they changed tooling due to
 these stress points?
 It is nice that you'll have a replacement, but I'd be wary of a product
 that has failed. While you didn't get hurt this time, whose to say the
 replacement won't fail as well, and could have more damaging results.
 Just being a skeptic this morning.
 David
 Chicago

 On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 9:17:35 PM UTC-6, Benedikt wrote:

 Actually I sent VO an email with a picture of the crank. There response
 was,What address do you want us to send your new replacement crank?

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[RBW] Re: Trying to help a friend with his RAM, what are the largest fenders you can run and largest tires?

2015-02-14 Thread NickBull
The only thing I'd add to this discussion (since it's already been noted 
that there's some variation in fender/tire clearance with Ram's) is that 
the brakes make a big difference.  The Shimano brakes that came with my Ram 
have brake arms that press against the fenders when you squeeze the 
brakes.  They were still OK with SKS45's and Pasela 32's on my Synergy or 
Open Pro rims.  But when I switched to a wider Velocity A23 rim, recently, 
the effective cross-sectional diameter of my tire increased so that now it 
rubbed on the fender when I squeezed the brakes.  Solution was to switch to 
some Tektro 559's that I had lying around.  The arms are flatter across the 
top and don't pinch the fenders as much.

Nick

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 8:53:40 AM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:

 Hey Guys and gals,

 I've been searching and found a couple things regarding my question.  I 
 found Leslie's bike that has 45mm fenders and pasela 32's.  Does anyone run 
 Compass tires 32's and some fenders?  Is it possible?  Leslies comment that 
 there isn't even enough room for a twig or small piece of gravel raised 
 concern.  That doesn't sound very practical.  Maybe someone else's fenders 
 fit better and allow for 32's and some clearance?  Any info or help would 
 be appreciated!

 Thanks,

 Geoff


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[RBW] 56 cm Albatross handlebars

2015-02-14 Thread ccanter
Hello group
 I'm wanting one of the old cro mo Albatross bars that were 56 cm wide. 
Anyone have a one they would like to sell or trade.
 Thanks 
Clyde Canter

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[RBW] Re: FS: hubs

2015-02-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Feel free to make offers on these! I'm occasionally a reasonable person :)

On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 3:29:11 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha 
Cyclery wrote:

 Phil Wood touring cassette hub. 135 mm, 36h, silver. Not as shiny as new, 
 but bearings are smooth and the pawls click crisply. $185 shipped in US.

 Phil Wood double-fixed high flange track hub, bolt-on. 120 mm (for QB or 
 SO). 32h. black. Not new, but the bearings are smooth and it's still pretty 
 shiny. Both lockrings included. $150 shipped in US.

 Schmidt SON28 (classic style) 36h, silver. Used and not as shiny as new, 
 but works great. $150 shipped in US.

 Happy to send photos to those who are seriously interested. Contact 
 offlist. I accept paypal or you can pay me by credit card over the phone.

 Jim


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[RBW] Re: FS: CL Listing in Madison, WI.

2015-02-14 Thread Will
So... I've had a couple of rides on the new-to-me Atlantis since Monday. 
Not long rides, unfortunately, but my location in Wisconsin is very cold 
and snowy at the moment. 

This is my first Rivendell and, although, the geometry and philosophy are 
not new to me, the butt-in-the-saddle experience is impressive. The ride is 
everything advertised. The build quality (Toyo) is awesome. 

It is bare-bones at the moment: no fenders, no racks, and a moustache 
cockpit. I'm am working on understanding the moustache concept. It's still 
not ringing my bell, but I will give it some time. My alternatives are 
Noodles or Albas. 

I am leaning to Noodles at the moment since the stem (Nitto Technomic) is 
short: 6 cm. and that might put albas too deep into the cockpit. Also the 
levers and bar-ends would transfer seamlessly to Noodles. Advise on this is 
solicited. 

My PBH is about 78. The bike is a 53. Toptube is 55. Standover is 78.9, so 
I am riding right at the edge of big. But I've always liked big, so I if I 
can get the bar reach nailed Spring will be beautiful. 

Will

On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 7:01:13 PM UTC-6, Sky Coulter wrote:

 That's awesome! And super price. Congrats!

 On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 4:10:40 PM UTC-8, Will wrote:

 Thanks for the post. Turns out the seller is a local bike shop. The bike 
 is in as-new condition. 

 I have it in my living room, waiting for the wife to come home so I can 
 explain myself. :-)

 Will

 On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 10:17:13 AM UTC-6, Batwing wrote:

 Greetings All,

 I have been in contact with this CL Lister (Ben) regarding his Atlantis 
 for sale:

 http://madison.craigslist.org/bik/4881590302.html

 Seems like a good deal.  If I had not just built up a 26 lugged steel 
 camping bike, I would have bought it already.  Lister states the bike is in 
 great condition with 200 miles on it.  Hope somebody on this forum picks it 
 up.  

 Yours,

 Ryan 



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[RBW] Re: FS: CL Listing in Madison, WI.

2015-02-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic, Will! If the moustache bars don't work for you you may want to 
try the Albastache. Moustache don't work for me (too narrow, low, and 
forward), but the wider Albastache bars are fantastic. For reference, I 
ride a lot of single track and long dirt road rides, as well as 
bikepacking. Enjoy the ride -- Spring is just round the bend!

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: FS: CL Listing in Madison, WI.

2015-02-14 Thread Kieran J
Congrats, Will! New Bike Days are the best.

Definitely try something from the Alba/Albastache family if you have not 
already done so. They are just so comfy. Plus, you may find their shape and 
your subsequent riding position to be the most suitable option for a frame 
that fits on the large side.

KJ


 Monday, February 9, 2015 at 11:17:13 AM UTC-5, Batwing wrote:

 Greetings All,

 I have been in contact with this CL Lister (Ben) regarding his Atlantis 
 for sale:

 http://madison.craigslist.org/bik/4881590302.html

 Seems like a good deal.  If I had not just built up a 26 lugged steel 
 camping bike, I would have bought it already.  Lister states the bike is in 
 great condition with 200 miles on it.  Hope somebody on this forum picks it 
 up.  

 Yours,

 Ryan 


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[RBW] Re: Trying to help a friend with his RAM, what are the largest fenders you can run and largest tires?

2015-02-14 Thread David Spranger


Here are some quick shots showing my Ram with 35mm Schwalble Kojaks 
(measure 32mm actual) under VO Stainless Steel 45 mm fenders and Shimano 
Dura Ace Centerpull brakes:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16342117408/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16343535829/in/photostream/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/15909634413/in/photostream/

David
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[RBW] Re: QB Co-Sponsors Wee bit of healing!

2015-02-14 Thread Deacon Patrick
Thanks, Andy, Tim, and Michael! God gets all the credit, the rest of us 
beggars are just co-sponsors. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] Broken Crank

2015-02-14 Thread Tim McNamara
Well, that’s good news (that it’s an anomaly).  I would think they’d want to 
examine the broken crank just in case this is the front end of more such 
failures, however.  Anyone using one of these cranks should be inspecting them 
closely

When you think about it, the stress on that end of the crank is significant.  
Imagine a 200 lb rider standing on the pedal- the stress is focused on where 
the crank meets the spider- on the VO crank, exactly where this one failed.  
Many Campy Nuovo/Super Record cranks failed there, too, because of the way in 
which aluminum fails combined with a tiny design problem (that could be 
prevented with 30 seconds of time and a round file- Campy actually sanctioned 
customers doing that little bit of filing once the problem became known).

The other most common place for failure is the pedal eye.  This is also a 
poorly designed spot in all cranks because the pedal is allowed to rock 
slightly in the threads.  If the shoulder of the pedal threads was shaped 
conically like a lug nut mating with a chamfer in the crank, that problem would 
be solved and braking a pedal eye would be a very scarce event indeed.

There had been a fundamental issue throughout the history of the bike industry 
which is that bike parts have been designed by mechanics rather than mechanical 
engineers.  While this has mostly worked out OK over a century and a half or 
so, it has also resulted in significant problems (brakes that pivot in such a 
way that the pads can end up in the spokes, breaking cranks, cracking rims, 
etc.) when basic mechanical engineering principles are ignored.


 On Feb 14, 2015, at 10:14 AM, Brian Pickart apollosj...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 David, VO said they'd never seen anything like that before. 
 
 On Feb 14, 2015 7:25 AM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:
 Kudos to VO for sending a replacement, but I think that should be the 
 appropriate response from any manufacturer when a product fails prematurely. 
 Did they mention anything else in their response? Such as a history of the 
 particular crank failing or that they changed tooling due to these stress 
 points?
 It is nice that you'll have a replacement, but I'd be wary of a product that 
 has failed. While you didn't get hurt this time, whose to say the replacement 
 won't fail as well, and could have more damaging results.
 Just being a skeptic this morning.
 David
 Chicago
 
 On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 9:17:35 PM UTC-6, Benedikt wrote:
 Actually I sent VO an email with a picture of the crank. There response 
 was,What address do you want us to send your new replacement crank? 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: CL Listing in Madison, WI.

2015-02-14 Thread James Warren

I am a moustache bar fan, BUT...

my advice to you is don't wait to learn them or grow into them if they weren't 
working well pretty soon off the bat. Don't wait around. If you have the means, 
switch those bars.

FWIW, albatross bars have been taking over my bikes recently. If I were 
starting over anew, knowing what I know now, all of my non-drop bar handlebars, 
for a more comfort-minded experience, would get albatrosses with no 
consideration given to the moustache or albastache.

Also, I haven't felt that the albatrosses have slowed me down at all. I haven't 
done centuries on them, because I don't do centuries, but on 45-mile rides, 
they have been great. And yes, Noodles are great too. Drop bar, different 
experience.


-Jim W.


On Feb 14, 2015, at 10:26 AM, Will wrote:

 So... I've had a couple of rides on the new-to-me Atlantis since Monday. Not 
 long rides, unfortunately, but my location in Wisconsin is very cold and 
 snowy at the moment. 
 
 This is my first Rivendell and, although, the geometry and philosophy are not 
 new to me, the butt-in-the-saddle experience is impressive. The ride is 
 everything advertised. The build quality (Toyo) is awesome. 
 
 It is bare-bones at the moment: no fenders, no racks, and a moustache 
 cockpit. I'm am working on understanding the moustache concept. It's still 
 not ringing my bell, but I will give it some time. My alternatives are 
 Noodles or Albas. 
 
 I am leaning to Noodles at the moment since the stem (Nitto Technomic) is 
 short: 6 cm. and that might put albas too deep into the cockpit. Also the 
 levers and bar-ends would transfer seamlessly to Noodles. Advise on this is 
 solicited. 
 
 My PBH is about 78. The bike is a 53. Toptube is 55. Standover is 78.9, so I 
 am riding right at the edge of big. But I've always liked big, so I if I can 
 get the bar reach nailed Spring will be beautiful. 
 
 Will
 
 On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 7:01:13 PM UTC-6, Sky Coulter wrote:
 That's awesome! And super price. Congrats!
 
 On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 4:10:40 PM UTC-8, Will wrote:
 Thanks for the post. Turns out the seller is a local bike shop. The bike is 
 in as-new condition. 
 
 I have it in my living room, waiting for the wife to come home so I can 
 explain myself. :-)
 
 Will
 
 On Monday, February 9, 2015 at 10:17:13 AM UTC-6, Batwing wrote:
 Greetings All,
 
 I have been in contact with this CL Lister (Ben) regarding his Atlantis for 
 sale:
 
 http://madison.craigslist.org/bik/4881590302.html
 
 Seems like a good deal.  If I had not just built up a 26 lugged steel 
 camping bike, I would have bought it already.  Lister states the bike is in 
 great condition with 200 miles on it.  Hope somebody on this forum picks it 
 up.  
 
 Yours,
 
 Ryan 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: hubs

2015-02-14 Thread Patrick Shea
Hi Jim:

Do you still have the Campy 650b wheels for sale? You posted them awhile
ago but maybe they didn't sell (he hopes.) Either way, can you send pics of
the track and touring hubs?

Thanks!
Patrick

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 9:56 AM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery 
thill@gmail.com wrote:

 Feel free to make offers on these! I'm occasionally a reasonable person :)

 On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 3:29:11 PM UTC-6, Jim Thill - Hiawatha
 Cyclery wrote:

 Phil Wood touring cassette hub. 135 mm, 36h, silver. Not as shiny as new,
 but bearings are smooth and the pawls click crisply. $185 shipped in US.

 Phil Wood double-fixed high flange track hub, bolt-on. 120 mm (for QB or
 SO). 32h. black. Not new, but the bearings are smooth and it's still pretty
 shiny. Both lockrings included. $150 shipped in US.

 Schmidt SON28 (classic style) 36h, silver. Used and not as shiny as new,
 but works great. $150 shipped in US.

 Happy to send photos to those who are seriously interested. Contact
 offlist. I accept paypal or you can pay me by credit card over the phone.

 Jim

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat

2015-02-14 Thread Marc Irwin
I've thought about that or a semi transparent color for my Hunq.  There are 
some powders produced specifically for corrosion resistance and are rated 
to withstand 3000+ hours of salt spray.  I'd look at Groody Bros. they have 
a couple of examples on their website or FB page.  I keep putting the idea 
aside when people start gooshing all over the paint job I have now.

Marc

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 at 2:41:57 PM UTC-4, Bruce Baker wrote:

 Has anyone taken their Sam Hillborne, stripped it and gone with a clear 
 powder coat??  Would there be any downside to this??
 I really like the looks of the protovelos I've seen and think it would be 
 interesting have a Sam like that.  Any thoughts or comments??
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[RBW] Re: FS-Sugino Crankset, VP pedals

2015-02-14 Thread Goshen Peter
sorry, paypal please. prices include shipping, thanks

Peter

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com
wrote:

 FS, Sugino XD350 crankset used about 50 miles, 175mm $50, Also brand new
 VP gripsters in lovely red, also asking $50. I know there were some
 shipping issues but I am healthy and will ship out the next day after
 payment. Will combine into one for $90. Thanks all

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[RBW] Re: Broken Crank

2015-02-14 Thread Benedikt
I added a few pictures for those of you who wanted to see the other side of 
the crank including some mating the two up.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/16529273621/in/album-72157607896493013/
- Brian

On Thursday, February 12, 2015 at 12:31:07 AM UTC-8, Benedikt wrote:

 I seem to remember seeing a similar post to this a few weeks/months ago 
 but here it is ...
 My VO crank that had 13,000 miles on it busted this morning on my way into 
 work. I was at a stop. Pushed down with my right foot, locked my left clip 
 in, pushed down with the right and clunk crank arm came right off. 
 Fortunately I wasn't going that fast, hammering down the road. What causes 
 this? Do ALL cranks have a life span? These are an aluminum alloy. 
 Here's a pretty good picture of the break - 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/neutralbuoyancy/16320815710/

 - Brian in Seattle


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: hubs

2015-02-14 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Campy 650B wheels are still available. Send me a message off list, please. I 
only have my phone, which doesn't allow me to contact you directly through the 
list.

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[RBW] Re: Polished Dura Ace centerpulls (from Ram/biggest tire/fender thread).

2015-02-14 Thread Patrick Moore
I forgot to ask: how do you like the Kojaks?

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:11 PM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com
 wrote:



 Here are some quick shots showing my Ram with 35mm Schwalble Kojaks
 (measure 32mm actual) under VO Stainless Steel 45 mm fenders and Shimano
 Dura Ace Centerpull brakes:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16342117408/in/photostream/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16343535829/in/photostream/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/15909634413/in/photostream/

 David

Charlotte, NC

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Re: [RBW] Polished Dura Ace centerpulls (from Ram/biggest tire/fender thread).

2015-02-14 Thread Mark Wilkins
I had just started an email reply to the original thread about those brakes. 
I'd be interested to hear how well they work with the VO 45s.

I just picked up a set of those fenders at a swap last weekend, but they're not 
going to work with the Ultegra long reach on my 58 Ram. Too crowded. 

I see a few pair on eBay, but they'll need a bit of work to get to that same 
level of shiny-ness!

Mark

 On Feb 14, 2015, at 18:04, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Aside: Nice polish job on those calipers! And they work as well as any other 
 centerpull I've used, too. 
 
 I think that they are simply rebadged Tourneys. (In fact, did you buy them 
 from me? I had a pair that I used for a while and then sold.)
 
 I was told (historical tidbit) that Shimano made DA center pulls for 6 months 
 or so in 1976 before deciding to use the name on some new sidepulls in 
 imitation of Campy.
 
 On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:11 PM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Here are some quick shots showing my Ram with 35mm Schwalble Kojaks (measure 
 32mm actual) under VO Stainless Steel 45 mm fenders and Shimano Dura Ace 
 Centerpull brakes:
 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16342117408/in/photostream/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16343535829/in/photostream/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/15909634413/in/photostream/
 
 David
 Charlotte, NC
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat

2015-02-14 Thread cyclotourist
I have a clear powdercoat (not a clearcoat) on my Quickbeam, no rust. It
spent time in damp Portland before coming to live with me in arid SoCal.
I LOVE the look of the clear powdercoat and recommend it to anyone!

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Marc Irwin irwin7...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've thought about that or a semi transparent color for my Hunq.  There
 are some powders produced specifically for corrosion resistance and are
 rated to withstand 3000+ hours of salt spray.  I'd look at Groody Bros.
 they have a couple of examples on their website or FB page.  I keep putting
 the idea aside when people start gooshing all over the paint job I have now.

 Marc

 On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 at 2:41:57 PM UTC-4, Bruce Baker wrote:

 Has anyone taken their Sam Hillborne, stripped it and gone with a clear
 powder coat??  Would there be any downside to this??
 I really like the looks of the protovelos I've seen and think it would be
 interesting have a Sam like that.  Any thoughts or comments??
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[RBW] Re: FS-Sugino Crankset, VP pedals

2015-02-14 Thread Justin August
Peter-
I'll take the pedals. Let me know where to PayPal. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS-Sugino Crankset, VP pedals

2015-02-14 Thread Goshen Peter
This address please, will get them out on Monday unless its a post office
holiday, then Tuesday. Thanks!

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[RBW] Polished Dura Ace centerpulls (from Ram/biggest tire/fender thread).

2015-02-14 Thread Patrick Moore
Aside: Nice polish job on those calipers! And they work as well as any
other centerpull I've used, too.

I think that they are simply rebadged Tourneys. (In fact, did you buy them
from me? I had a pair that I used for a while and then sold.)

I was told (historical tidbit) that Shimano made DA center pulls for 6
months or so in 1976 before deciding to use the name on some new sidepulls
in imitation of Campy.

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 12:11 PM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com
wrote:



 Here are some quick shots showing my Ram with 35mm Schwalble Kojaks
 (measure 32mm actual) under VO Stainless Steel 45 mm fenders and Shimano
 Dura Ace Centerpull brakes:

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16342117408/in/photostream/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16343535829/in/photostream/
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/15909634413/in/photostream/

 David
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[RBW] Re: FS-Sugino Crankset, VP pedals

2015-02-14 Thread Goshen Peter
Cranks are sold, pedals are spoken for right now. thanks again all

Peter

On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Goshen Peter uscpeter11...@gmail.com
wrote:

 FS, Sugino XD350 crankset used about 50 miles, 175mm $50, Also brand new
 VP gripsters in lovely red, also asking $50. I know there were some
 shipping issues but I am healthy and will ship out the next day after
 payment. Will combine into one for $90. Thanks all

 Peter


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[RBW] Re: Advice needed: 7 sp freewheel on a 126mm hub for Rivvy build. Also, 27'' to 26 conversion experiment and pre-report.

2015-02-14 Thread Ron Mc
I have a very happy setup with 700c and 7-speed Suntour winner  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/aP1170010.jpg
  

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/bulldog1935/Raleigh/700c/drive26.jpg

this is my old Raleigh that I cold set from 120mm to 126mm.  

you also have to be careful about the smallest cog and the chainstay - 12T 
or 13T give better clearance than 14T

On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 8:14:53 AM UTC-6, cbone97 wrote:

 After selling my Sam (loved it but always wanted fatter tires), I'm 
 rebuilding a 1984 Trek 420 I picked up in a thrift store in a Rivesque 
 fashion: dirt drop stem, B17, saddlesack, fancy Tektro drillium levers, 
 SunRace thumbie, etc etc.

 The bike's original wheels are 27.  As I'm a husky lad, I decided to 
 attempt a conversion to 26 wheels so as to accommodate the fattest tires 
 possible.  I had a rear wheel built to fit the original spacing of 126mm 
 (Velocity NoBS rim on a VO hi-flange 126mm freewheel hub), and I can fit a 
 Michelin Country Rock 1.75 in the back - so far so good.  At this point 
 you're wondering what brakes make this possible; unfortunately not my 
 Silvers, but Tektro makes these huge beach cruiser calipers which make this 
 possible.  Not sure of the model number -  I've seen them on other posts on 
 here re: GP having tinkered with them at some point or the like.

 Anyway, here's where I'd appreciate your advice:  I put a Shimano 7 sp 
 Megarange freewheel on the hub the other day and the smallest cog rubs the 
 derailer mounting bolt.  I haven't put a chain on yet but can clearly see 
 that a chain on the smallest cog would smash against the chainstay.   
  Everything I read before ordering the fw said a 126mm hub could do a 7 sp 
 fw no problem, so where did I go wrong?  Am I mistaken, any chance I just 
 don't have the freewheel screwed down tight enough,  should I just replace 
 it with a 6 sp freewheel, have a bike shop remove the smallest cog 
 (assuming it's not what holds the others on...), or what?  I understand the 
 wheel could be re-dished, but shouldn't it have been built with dish (or 
 lack of) that assumes it would be used with a 7 sp fw?

 fwiw, this bike is being built to ride rails to trails - single ring up 
 front, probably wouldn't miss the little cog...simplicity is the goal.   

 Once it's built I'll post pics and give a report on whether 27 to 26 
 conversion is a good idea.  If not, I'll have a pretty unique wheel for 
 sale...

 Thanks!


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