Re: [RBW] FS: 5 (FIVE!) bikes or framesets available

2015-07-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
Jeff 

Thanks for your interest. The Bomba is spoken for, but we should talk about the 
Homer. I will be back in town in two weeks

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[RBW] Re: Stem length considerations

2015-07-18 Thread Ron Mc
it will always be about reach, and the tips mostly apply to one riding 
position.  However, it is completely true that your rolling efficiency and 
handling are affected by weight distribution and leverage.  

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 6:16:15 AM UTC-5, Leslie wrote:

 Just came across this in my morning reading...

 Bike sizing should be, get the right size frame, then find the right 
 length of stem to dial in the cockpit length;  but I usually hadn't thought 
 of the effect of weight distribution over the front tire


 http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/03/how-does-stem-length-affect-a-bikes-steering-and-handling/

 Makes sense, just not a step in thinking about it that I'd considered...   


 Not that it's going to change anything I've done, but, it's something that 
 I might have in the back of my head...



 -L


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[RBW] Brown, gum or tan hood covers for Campy 10

2015-07-18 Thread Call Me Jay
Does anyone have a new set that they'd be willing to sell or otherwise come 
across them somewhere?  It looks like Hudz used to make them but the 
currently available color platte doesn't include brown: 
http://odigrips.com/store/hudz-campagnolo-ergo-v2-enhancement-brake-hoods   
Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: The need for black shorts/today's ride (non-epic). Wool versus synthetics. Cotton jersey for postage.

2015-07-18 Thread Garth
   
You simply want something to wipe your hands with , the color of your 
shorts is irrelevant really as shorts are not intended to be rags .   
Would it be an inconvenience to carry a cloth/rag, disposable wipes , 
disposable nitrile gloves and such ?  

While I understand a desire to be light and fast and all  but seriously 
. . .   you're only opposition(s) is/are myths of who you are not .   

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Re: [RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread cyclotourist
Hi Steve, I've had MTB trigger shifters mounted on A-bars, and they
work fine. IIRC they were the integrated kind attached to brake
levers. A little clunky looking, but function worked well.

You didn't mention the option, but I prefer thumb shifters to either
trigger or bar end.

As for bar end, I like the SRAM X9 model that has a thumb push for
both up and down shifts vs. most others that have a thumb push to pull
cable and then finger pull to release. I don't think they have this in
their current models, as this is older nine speed.


On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Some triggers have a gauge with a red indicator for your current gear.  XT
 and XTR definitely have this.

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[RBW] Re: Stem length considerations

2015-07-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
My saluki has a longer TT  shorter stem than my ram.  As a result it has 
no TCO, while the ram has a touch at the fender.  They handle much the same 
at hi speed but the saluki feels a bit more stable below 10mph.

The article shows a 150 mm stem.  I don't think I have ever seen one of 
those in real life.

Michael

On Thursday, July 16, 2015 at 7:16:15 AM UTC-4, Leslie wrote:

 Just came across this in my morning reading...

 Bike sizing should be, get the right size frame, then find the right 
 length of stem to dial in the cockpit length;  but I usually hadn't thought 
 of the effect of weight distribution over the front tire


 http://cyclingtips.com.au/2015/03/how-does-stem-length-affect-a-bikes-steering-and-handling/

 Makes sense, just not a step in thinking about it that I'd considered...   


 Not that it's going to change anything I've done, but, it's something that 
 I might have in the back of my head...



 -L


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[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Ron Mc
currently very happy with indexed thumbies.  While trigger shifters work 
find they gon't give you visual feedback about your engaged gear.  

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[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Ginz
Some triggers have a gauge with a red indicator for your current gear.  XT 
and XTR definitely have this.  

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[RBW] Re: The need for black shorts/today's ride (non-epic). Wool versus synthetics. Cotton jersey for postage.

2015-07-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
I take great hyperbolic umbrage at this. Grin. All clothing is a 
prepubescent rag. Or part of the medical kit as a bandage or tourniquet.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 6:17:39 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:

  shorts are not intended to be rags


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[RBW] The need for black shorts/today's ride (non-epic). Wool versus synthetics. Cotton jersey for postage.

2015-07-18 Thread WETH
Patrick,
I carry a lightweight set of gloves which work well for road/trail side repairs 
of flats or chains.
Hope you get some rain and not just humidity from monsoon season!
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Ginz
I have used Shimano Rapid Fire on my hardtail since the early 2000s.  Only 
XT and XTR. Both are great. Although, as with any indexing system, the 
front der adjustment can be tricky.  You often have to life with a little 
chain rub against the inside of the cage.

Personally, I stay away from the more economical versions, as they can feel 
rather clunky.  Otherwise, they are fantastic.

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[RBW] Re: Riding in Greater Muskegon-Newaygo-Grant Michigan Area

2015-07-18 Thread Call Me Jay
Tom:

Thanks again for hospitality and tour of the backroads of Newaygo County. 
 Sorry that we couldn't meet up for another ride---definitely next year. 
 Let me know if you get out here and I'll return the favor.  

On Friday, July 3, 2015 at 11:16:01 AM UTC-4, Call Me Jay wrote:

 Is it worth hauling one of Rivs 14 hours to ride out there?  I'm visiting 
 my in-laws.  Any good rides to recommend on pavement or dirt roads? 


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[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
Having used both Shimano brifters and their BE indexed shifters I found I 
much prefer the BEs.  Although I should add that my experience with the 
brifters - a couple of years of commuting was 10 years ago.  I found the 
rear brifters worked well, while the front, with a triple, needed constant 
readjustment.  I did not like the ergonomics of the brifters, which require 
the rider to push with the finger tips.  The BE have a number of 
advantages.  The motion is exactly what fingers have evolved to do; the 
motion is very intuitive - lifting either lever lifts the chain  vice 
versa; the position of the lever tells you what gear combination you are 
in; and, if something comes out of alignment during a ride you can switch 
to friction.

I have not had the difficulties with 9 speed friction that others on this 
list have encountered.  I try to use the shortest RD cage I can; buy 
quality cassettes  chains; and replace them when they are worn.  I prefer 
friction because it is faster than indexed shifting.  I am very experienced 
with friction. Riding here in Vermont offers lots of radical grade shifts 
and puts a premium on the ability to shift across the range very quickly 
and I find friction does that better.  I have indexed BEs on the tandem but 
don't like the hesitation I get before the chain moves.

I would think that Albatross bars would keep your hands pretty near the BEs 
so that also argues against the added expense of brifters.

Michael

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 11:00:23 PM UTC-4, Steve Cole wrote:

 I know Riv doesn't generally condone/approve of the use of trigger 
 shifters -- they don't sell them.  I'm wondering whether any list members 
 have used them and, if so, whether you might recommend them when compared 
 to bar ends with Albatross bars.

 Thanks for your reply.

 Steve Cole
 Arlington, VA


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[RBW] Re: The need for black shorts/today's ride (non-epic). Wool versus synthetics. Cotton jersey for postage.

2015-07-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
Deacon, hopefully not sand with goat heads in it.  I keep a clean rag in my 
bike bag, but so far this year my only mechanical failures have been a 
loose  misaligned kickstand and a loose rack bolt.  I probably shouldn't 
say any of that out loud.

I recently retreated all of our saddles and ended up with brown stains on 
the bottom of kaki shorts.  Black bike shorts are best for summer rides 
over an hour or so.

Michael

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 6:38:14 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Dirt or sand. I clean my hands with dirt or sand. Good as new. As least if 
 your standards are as low as mine. Grin.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 4:27:12 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:


 Anyway, I really needed something black to wipe my hands on; khaki shorts 
 just don't look good with black handprints. 
  


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[RBW] Re: Brown, gum or tan hood covers for Campy 10

2015-07-18 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado
http://boulderbicycle.bike/Hoods/

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 8:34:14 AM UTC-6, Call Me Jay wrote:

 Does anyone have a new set that they'd be willing to sell or otherwise 
 come across them somewhere?  It looks like Hudz used to make them but the 
 currently available color platte doesn't include brown: 
 http://odigrips.com/store/hudz-campagnolo-ergo-v2-enhancement-brake-hoods 
   Thanks in advance.


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[RBW] Re: Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-18 Thread blakcloud
Thanks for the write up! Your instructions are great. I will be interested 
to know if you end up with less flats in the long term test. If it works 
then I might give it a try. 

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[RBW] Rambouillet Touring Upgrades

2015-07-18 Thread John Serrao
Long time Rambouillet rider on a bit of a custom build I did myself: 9 speed 
ultegra components on a ritchey cross wheel. Typically I'm riding 32 vittoria 
randoneurs but I'm currently gearing up for a 350mi tour over hardpack gravel 
and looking at my tire options. I want to put cyclocross with Kevlar 
reinforcement on the bike.

I really like the continental cyclocross ride tires riv is selling, which they 
say come out to being 38-39mm in practice, but I'm worried the frame can't 
handle them. Any guidance? I've got tektro Quartz r730 brakes with no fenders 
so clearance looks good there. And my wheels would take them no problem. Just 
not sure if the frame clearance is sufficient.

Also wondering about any rack recommendations you guys might have. Probably 
looking to Frankenstein something together for a front rack and upgrade my rear 
rack to something nice.

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[RBW] WTT: Soma Portola for Albatross?

2015-07-18 Thread Sofia Torres
Anybody want to trade? My Soma Portola 53cm (26.0) for your (preferably HT 
Aluminum) Albas?

I waited so long for this bar to come back into stock at Soma and thought I 
would love it but I just can't get it right.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/76468912@N07/19596039295/in/dateposted-ff/

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[RBW] Re: How do I tell if I need a spacer for a 7speed cassette?

2015-07-18 Thread CMR
You'll need a 4.5 mm spacer before the cassette. You could tell because any 
freehub that will accept a 9 speed will have a bit extra room with a 7 
speed.

Any local bike shop should carry it, good luck!

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

2015-07-18 Thread Lynn Creamer
Congratulations!  I was a wreck when I ordered mine, which arrived here in 
West Virginia in early June.  I also considered the Clementine but decided 
to go for my dream bike and not skimp.  

I've only got about 20 miles on her and she is now sitting in my shed as 
I've injured myself and am in one of those fancy boots.  I'm heartbroken 
and frustrated and trying to behave.  And still a bit nervous.  

Lynn

On Friday, July 10, 2015 at 10:53:09 PM UTC-4, Alohashirt wrote:

 In 40+ years of cycling, I never thought I'd buy something sight unseen 
 without even a test ride. And I never thought I'd buy a mixte. 

 But I've never read a word of complaint or buyer's remorse about Rivs. The 
 love owners seem to have for these bikes is unusual, so I decided it was 
 worth parting with nearly $3K of my hard-earned dollars to get the Chev. I 
 could have thoroughly pimped out a Clementine for much less, but I totally 
 fell for the lugs, the lines, and the whole package.

 I'm in my early 50's, live in Virginia, and ride for the pure joy of it on 
 paved paths and gravel trails. I'm all for beusage, but want to keep the 
 occasional mud and slime off the important parts. Any tips for how best to 
 keep it un-crapified?


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Re: [RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-18 Thread 650Bsplease
I've heard great things about both the single and double tubers. That being 
said the double tube version makes me smile just a bit more. 

On Wednesday, July 15, 2015 at 2:53:11 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Curious: what does the second top tube on a 56 cm frame do?

 I briefly owned a 56 cm single tt Sam, and the bike was very stout.

 On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 12:10 PM, 650Bsplease achati...@pointloma.edu 
 javascript: wrote:

 Hi folks! Looking for a double tube sam, frame or complete. Any leads or 
 offers are greatly appreciated. 

 Happy Trails 
 Andrew

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[RBW] WTB: 56 Double Tube Sam

2015-07-18 Thread 'Shelby Munn' via RBW Owners Bunch
I have a blue 56cm double tube Sam Hillborne frame/fork with brakes I am 
looking to sell. I will post pics. 

-Shelby

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[RBW] questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread Bill Ruprecht
Hi,

I am new to this group and am thinking of buying and selling some Riv bikes 
in the near future. I have a questions:

How do you deal with the transaction securely? Do you just trust that the 
person will ship the bike after you pay him/her? At least Ebay has 
procedures in place.

This works on both sides of the transaction as i wonder how someone would 
trust that i would ship after receiving his money.

Let me know how you guys usually deal with this.

Thanks,
Bill

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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread Minh
Bill,

This is an open group accessible to (almost) anyone, so of course you must 
be careful, there is no official help from the group if something goes bad 
so your best defense is to be on alert.  

In general most of the buying and selling is between established members so 
it's pretty safe.   For less established members i would take a few extra 
precautions, asking to talk on the phone, verifying their address/personal 
information (disturbingly easy to do in with google) to make sure 
everything lines up.  

Paypal does offer some protection when you pay for goods (not 
'personal/gift') but it can still be dicey so i wouldn't depend solely on 
that.  

In the end, use your gut, if a deal feels too good to be true, or something 
feels off, walk away. 


On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 4:29:14 PM UTC-4, Bill Ruprecht wrote:

 Hi,

 I am new to this group and am thinking of buying and selling some Riv 
 bikes in the near future. I have a questions:

 How do you deal with the transaction securely? Do you just trust that 
 the person will ship the bike after you pay him/her? At least Ebay has 
 procedures in place.

 This works on both sides of the transaction as i wonder how someone would 
 trust that i would ship after receiving his money.

 Let me know how you guys usually deal with this.

 Thanks,
 Bill


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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread Cyclofiend Jim
Hi Bill - 

A lot of us on this list have known one another since the days of usenet. 
 I can think of at least a dozen people who I'd just send something to and 
know I'd get a check back from them.  

By the same token, this is also a publicly searchable group, and there is a 
possibility that someone with nefarious intent might contact you who has 
not actually been active on the list.  

That being said, there are many more lucrative ways to run scams than 
posting a for sale listing here, (including wait for it to be passed 
through the queue if you aren't active on the list) and then bilking the 
sender.  It's one of the reasons I don't mind a slight bottleneck in the 
system, and it's also one of the reasons I don't upgrade anyone's status if 
all they have done is post FS/FT listings. 

The first thing I'd do as a buyer would be search for the person here on 
the group archives and see how long they've been active and the types of 
posts they generally make.  If it's the only post a person has ever made, 
I'd do some things to protect myself.  

Protecting myself might include using paypal - because they do give you 
recourse.   It might be getting someone else on the list to go look at an 
item, so you can get a general feel for the deal.  It could be as simple as 
agreeing to talk on the phone at a certain time, seeing if they are easy to 
get ahold of and trusting your gut response to their trustworthiness in the 
conversation. 

Getting photos you know are real (have them take a photo with a specific 
page of the newspaper shown).  Fast and complete responses to questions. 
Those will give you a pretty good insight into who you are dealing with.

Finally, having a clear understanding of what kind of right of refusal you 
expect would be important.If the quality doesn't match the photos, what 
happens?  If you kinda-sorta-wanta see the bike in person but might ship it 
back, you should figure out who pays for that - and what level of shipping 
insurance should be included.  If it shows up at your place after the 
shipper drove a forklift over it - what happens? 

And giving one another the benefit of the doubt helps too - sometimes a 
seller gets bogged down with work, health, life and other stuff and just 
doesn't get the package out the door in time.  It doesn't mean they are 
running a scam.

I get about 1 or 2 emails per year asking if I know so and so who hasn't 
shipped something yet.  In every case, it's self-resolved

The one true scam I can recall sounded like there were all kinds of warning 
signs  right from the get-go.

And - you know it was coming, right? - just to be clear: any transactions 
you engage upon are done so at your risk. 

- Jim / group admin

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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread Joe Bernard
I've bought and sold dozens of things here, including expensive frames. 
Never had a bad transaction; never even occurred to me it was possible. Of 
course that time could come someday, but I would be very surprised.

Joe Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 1:50:23 PM UTC-7, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:

 Bill,
 What the others have said, plus.I have bought and sold a fair amount 
 of stuff both here and as a BOB. When I sold a Riv frameset I had the money 
 (four digits worth) in hand before I shipped. On the other stuff I just 
 ship and wait for  payment. I have had zero problems. YMMV.

 Chris
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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread drew
So, 
I'm somewhat new, and I've probably bought enough stuff off the list to build a 
couple bikes. I've also hooked up a friend with a complete bike/large purchase. 
99% of the transactions were smooth. Had one bad one, from a pretty consistent 
contributing member (who has since disappeared). 100$ lesson learned. The key 
to PayPal is to do it as a  paying for goods and services transaction. Friends 
and family offers zero protection, as I found out. For a big purchase, you 
might get pushback from the seller because they will have to pay a paypal fee 
that can be avoided in friends and family. Offering to cover that fee is useful 
in making everyone happy and covering yourself. Still, I wouldn't  hesitate to 
buy and sell here. It's a good place. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The need for black shorts/today's ride (non-epic). Wool versus synthetics. Cotton jersey for postage.

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Y'know, on my errand bikes -- the currently captive Riv #3, hopefully being
powdercoated right now after many and varied brazed-on additions, and,
formerly, the Ram -- I had a 4 section of pipe insulation more or less
permanently attached to the bottom of the seat tube, under the bottle cage,
to be removed and used as padding when locking the bikes to metal posts.
But the gofast disdains any such quotidian utilitarian measures.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Justin August justin.aug...@icloud.com
wrote:

 If you tie a bandana onto your frame you'll never be without a rag and you
 can have mild protection from over rotating bars and poles to which you
 lock up.
 -J

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Re: [RBW] questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Bill: First, welcome. Second: I've bought many, many items from list
members and have never been disappointed. This list, and the iBoblist too,
are notable for their civility and for the smooth transactions amongst
members.

That said, you can always ask for payment via a medium like Paypal, which
has (I don't know the details; never had to resort to them) sanctions
against dishonest transactions and protection for those who use it.

Perhaps you might observe the list traffic for a few months to get your own
idea of the nature of the list and the quality of the members.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 6:41 AM, Bill Ruprecht bruprech...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi,

 I am new to this group and am thinking of buying and selling some Riv
 bikes in the near future. I have a questions:

 How do you deal with the transaction securely? Do you just trust that
 the person will ship the bike after you pay him/her? At least Ebay has
 procedures in place.

 This works on both sides of the transaction as i wonder how someone would
 trust that i would ship after receiving his money.

 Let me know how you guys usually deal with this.

 Thanks,
 Bill

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Re: [RBW] Rambouillet Touring Upgrades

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Moore
John: I don't know the vintage of your Ram, but the 58 cm blue Ram I owned
had clearance for 35 mm Kojaks with a lot of empty air around all sides. I
am confident I could have installed fenders over those 35s. (Note: I never
measured the true width of those Kojaks, but FWIW, they were mounted on
older Open Pros and my brakes were some sort of Shimanos with 57 mm reach.
I had photos of this setup, but deleted them when I sold the Ram.)

As for racks: Tubus, Tubus, Tubus. I say this as someone who as spent $$$
on customs (because customs are prettier). My Ram had a Fly, and it carried
40 lb with no problem. Tubus makes solid aluminum clamps for the fork that
will allow you to mount a front lowrider; the Tubus Tara is obvious, but
IIRC, these clamps also let you mount the Duo.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 7:12 AM, John Serrao bigbadser...@gmail.com wrote:

 Long time Rambouillet rider on a bit of a custom build I did myself: 9
 speed ultegra components on a ritchey cross wheel. Typically I'm riding 32
 vittoria randoneurs but I'm currently gearing up for a 350mi tour over
 hardpack gravel and looking at my tire options. I want to put cyclocross
 with Kevlar reinforcement on the bike.

 I really like the continental cyclocross ride tires riv is selling, which
 they say come out to being 38-39mm in practice, but I'm worried the frame
 can't handle them. Any guidance? I've got tektro Quartz r730 brakes with no
 fenders so clearance looks good there. And my wheels would take them no
 problem. Just not sure if the frame clearance is sufficient.

 Also wondering about any rack recommendations you guys might have.
 Probably looking to Frankenstein something together for a front rack and
 upgrade my rear rack to something nice.

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Touring Upgrades

2015-07-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
While Frankensteining things has it's place, I'd suggest a good solid rack 
front and back is a great way to go. I use Nitto's big back rack and mini 
front rack and love them. Especially since dirt roads are remote roads and 
weight on racks on jouncy roads is hard on them.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 2:29:01 PM UTC-6, John Serrao wrote:

 Probably looking to Frankenstein something together for a front rack and 
 upgrade my rear rack to something nice.

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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread Deacon Patrick
Keep in mind we buy and wear wool pirate shirts and skivvies. Grin.

Ditto to my Patrick twin and Minh. It doesn't take long to suss out whose a 
regular, and at least on the web interface you can click the additional 
options for a post and see all posts made by a member so you get to know 
them a wee bit without being here long (or to remind you if you have). 

With abandon,
Patrick

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 2:29:14 PM UTC-6, Bill Ruprecht wrote:

 Do you just trust that the person will ship the bike after you pay 
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Re: [RBW] Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Doug: thanks for posting this; very very useful information. I hope (God
willing) to replace the 559X1.35 Kojaks on the '03 Curt-built Rivendell
with the (God willing) forthcoming Compass 559 X 32 extralights, and run
them tubeless on Sun/Ringle EQ 21 rims using Orange Seal or Stan's and a
Stan's rim strip. This gives me further hope.

FWIW, I heartily second tubeless + sealant as a very, very effective remedy
against goatheads. On my Fargo I use Schwalbe Furious Freds. These must be
the very lightest, thinnest, most-supple tires in the world, since a 622X
(true) 50 weighs a [true, per Pelouze mail scale] 360 grams. I ride these
tubeless with Stan's through goathead patches and live to ride further, the
sealant closing the holes after a few meters of riding. It is very fun to
hear the spurt-spurt-spurt of brief, temporary air loss and then have it
stop as the sealant does its thing.

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wrote:

 I converted my Babyshoe Pass EL's on Pacenti SL23 rims to tubeless
 yesterday. So my 58cm 650B Homer is running SMOOTH. Everything is great so
 far, I'll followup with a long term report after some more miles. Some
 preliminary observations:

 From what I had read, I was expecting a battle; but seating the tires was
 actually quite easy. I didn't want water inside the tires, so I used no
 soapy water or lubricant of any kind. I had an injector for the Orange Seal
 sealant, so I added the sealant AFTER the tires were seated. In short, the
 tires were seated while completely dry. Here is how I did it.

 First, I seated the tires in the normal manner with an inner tube. Then I
 broke ONE bead and removed the inner tube. I installed the tubeless tire
 stem. Then I worked my way around the rim and pulled the loose bead outward
 on the rim to seat it as best as I could. It wasn't fully seated of course,
 but somewhat close. Then I just pumped the tire up and seated it, didn't
 even remove the valve core (as some recommend for faster air flow) because
 my pump fit the valve stem better with the core in. It was actually quite
 easy to seat the tire with my floor pump! Full disclosure, I have the high
 volume Lezyne Dirt Floor Drive Pump, but really I think any floor pump
 would have worked. My daughter seated one of the tires and I seated the
 other. Easy both times. I think the key is to have one bead completely on
 and the second bead pulled in close like I did.

 So far I'm quite satisfied with tubeless. My goal was to avoid having to
 use a heavy commuter tire because I really love the ride of the Babyshoe
 Pass EL's. I see no weight savings with tubeless and I don't care. If there
 is a difference in performance I can't tell. I was already using Schwalbe
 SV14 light (130 gram) inner tubes and the ride was sweet (when I didn't
 flat). I'm interested only in flat protection because with all the goat
 heads and other thorns around here flats were annoyingly common with tubes.
 I probably used more Orange Seal than necessary, but we will see. I'll
 probably carry two inner tubes and a patch kit as emergency backup, so
 again...no weight savings. But if I don't get flats, it will be worth it. I
 use my bike to commute to work. It is only 5 miles each direction, but I
 get up early and extend my morning commute somewhere fun to get a 90 minute
 or so morning ride. I don't want to be fixing a flat out in the boonies at
 dawn before work. Been there, done that!

 So hopefully tubeless will be the answer for me...time will tell.

 Doug

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Re: [RBW] RIVELO-PDX RIV deler and servicing bikes

2015-07-18 Thread 'Shmunn' via RBW Owners Bunch
Wifey says smells like we're camping.

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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread Chris in Redding, Ca.
Bill,
What the others have said, plus.I have bought and sold a fair amount of 
stuff both here and as a BOB. When I sold a Riv frameset I had the money 
(four digits worth) in hand before I shipped. On the other stuff I just 
ship and wait for  payment. I have had zero problems. YMMV.

Chris
Redding, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

2015-07-18 Thread Roger
Visually, the website picture of the rear hub seems identical to the hubs 
sold at last year's garage sale (except for the whimsical 
can't-spell-stuff-good new logo). The front is a different design.

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bike Friday Pocket Rocket 58cm $1400 shipped CONUS

2015-07-18 Thread Joe Bernard
I've only ridden a BF, but I can answer the bus/office question: get the 
Brompton. Bike Fridays are primarily bicycles which ride nice, and can be 
folded/broken-down for travel; it's not particularly compact, and you wouldn't 
want to do it in a hurry as the bus is showing up. Brompton folds fast and 
compact, and if this is your primary need for a folder, 20-inch-wheel BF's 
can't touch them. 

Of course there's always the fast-fold 16-inch-wheel Bike Friday tikit, just to 
make things more interesting ;)

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[RBW] Complete build RBW Bike packing by Emil at RBW Video

2015-07-18 Thread Lungimsam
Here's a Rivideo showing a full build bike packing video. Very helpful for 
anyone shipping a bike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQw64fkmWjM


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[RBW] FS: thinking of selling 62cm Simpleone more.

2015-07-18 Thread John L
I have a 62cm Simpleone which I'm thinking of moving in order to make space 
in the basement for an alfine/belt drive commuter.  Currently set up with a 
fairly generic flip flop wheelset, FSA metropolis crank.  Nicer touches 
include a Clement XPlor 700x40 tires, Paul seatpost and Paul cantis, Soma 
Lauterwasser bars. Hoping for in the ballpark of $1400 professionally 
packed and shipped, but willing to entertain reasonable offers.  

Not strictly Riv, but with varying degrees of Riv-ishness, I also have a 
Surly Trucker Deluxe also 62cm with Nitto Moustache bars and Son/Luxos B 
dynamo set up, and a 650B canti-braked Elephant NFE, don't know the exact 
size (63cm seatpost, 61cm ETT I think) that that's set up as a 1x9 with 
Quasimotos, Son28 dynamo and Edelux, and porteur bars and rack w/ swift 
porteur bag (would be amazing for a trailsy s24o) ($2000 for the either 
bike, another $200 if you want the porteur rack  bag, $50 for just the 
rack)

More info or pics on request


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[RBW] Re: The Silver Hubs

2015-07-18 Thread Evan Baird
Are these the same hubs that Velocity sells on their road wheelsets?

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bike Friday Pocket Rocket 58cm $1400 shipped CONUS

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Moore
Thanks, Joe. I hear that the better Dahons fold almost as small as as the
Bromptons. The one I have in mind is a singlespeed. Can anyone comment on
how the Dahons ride?

Brompton would be choice #1, but $$ are a factor, too.

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've only ridden a BF, but I can answer the bus/office question: get the
 Brompton. Bike Fridays are primarily bicycles which ride nice, and can be
 folded/broken-down for travel; it's not particularly compact, and you
 wouldn't want to do it in a hurry as the bus is showing up. Brompton folds
 fast and compact, and if this is your primary need for a folder,
 20-inch-wheel BF's can't touch them.

 Of course there's always the fast-fold 16-inch-wheel Bike Friday tikit,
 just to make things more interesting ;)

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, Soma Portola Handlebar, TRP RRL SR Retro Brake Levers

2015-07-18 Thread Captain Conway Bennett
I'll take the levers for sure.

Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett

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 Stem  Bar are Sold.  I still have the TRP Brake Levers available for sale!
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: The need for black shorts/today's ride (non-epic). Wool versus synthetics. Cotton jersey for postage.

2015-07-18 Thread Patrick Moore
I'm going to see if I can't cut down a rag to get it under 3 grams.

Sure, a rag is another brilliant idea, but black shorts (I used to wear
lycra shorts) were so convenient. Black socks serve the purpose but
yesterday I wanted nothing between me and my Sidis.

Gloves: too much hassle and pulling them onto sweating heads is a pair, at
least if they are tight enough to stay put when you are working in them.

Actually, I do carry a bandana and that's what I used yesterday.

Out again I hope in an hour or so!

Erl: very wet this year, with, IIRC, 5 whole inches citywide average to
date, and the monsoon has just started. We'll see ...

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 You simply want something to wipe your hands with , the color of your
 shorts is irrelevant really as shorts are not intended to be rags .
 Would it be an inconvenience to carry a cloth/rag, disposable wipes ,
 disposable nitrile gloves and such ?

 While I understand a desire to be light and fast and all  but
 seriously . . .   you're only opposition(s) is/are myths of who you are not
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, Soma Portola Handlebar, TRP RRL SR Retro Brake Levers

2015-07-18 Thread Keith Muller

Stem  Bar are Sold.  I still have the TRP Brake Levers available for sale!


 Thanks,

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[RBW] Re: Sam on tour

2015-07-18 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
This is good news because I have a Sam and have been told it's not up to 
the task of fully loaded touring.  And it probably isn't capable of 
carrying 100 lbs but I wouldn't want to carry much more than 50lbs anyway.  
Would you mind sharing which Tubus racks you have and how they are attached 
because another thing I've heard is that Tubus is not compatible with Sam.  
Did you use P clamps?

Thanks for sharing,

Matt

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 4:13:34 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:

 I've just returned from a fully loaded partial tour across Pennsylvania on 
 my Sam Hillborne, and I'm happy to report that outside of a mechanical 
 issue that was not Sam's fault that caused me to return home with a 
 different, scavenged rear derailleur than I started with, and multi-patched 
 tubes, he behaved wonderfully. 

 Sam carried a camping load of ~47 pounds plus up to 6 liters of water at 
 times, along with my non-svelt self over rural roads, graveled mountain 
 roads, roads that were vertical and muddy and rocky enough to be referred 
 to as mountain goat paths instead of roads (okay, I pushed Sam up that one) 
 as well as highway shoulders and through state parks. 

 Our tour did not go as planned, but things often don't, and we eventually, 
 sooner than later, strayed from our pre-planned route and ended a day 
 earlier than expected, but these are unimportant details. Life on a bike is 
 great and Sam is a more than worthy steed. 

 Upon returning I stripped Sam of his Tubus racks, installed a new rear 
 derailleur and took him for a quick spin and he feels awful. He wants his 
 camping load back, and he wants to go for a long ride, and wake up 
 somewhere different tomorrow. 



 -Jeff
 Silver Spring, MD


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[RBW] Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread Joe Bernard
You might want to scour Ebay/Craigslist for a cheap right-or-left trigger first 
to see how it feels. I've used them to good effect on semi-swept-back bars, but 
Albas come back at an almost 90-degree angle. The index finger trigger should 
be fine (Shimano Rapidfire), but the thumb position might be a little awkward 
to operate. 

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[RBW] Babyshoe Pass EL's Tubeless on Pacenti SL23's

2015-07-18 Thread Doug Williams
I converted my Babyshoe Pass EL's on Pacenti SL23 rims to tubeless 
yesterday. So my 58cm 650B Homer is running SMOOTH. Everything is great so 
far, I'll followup with a long term report after some more miles. Some 
preliminary observations:

From what I had read, I was expecting a battle; but seating the tires was 
actually quite easy. I didn't want water inside the tires, so I used no 
soapy water or lubricant of any kind. I had an injector for the Orange Seal 
sealant, so I added the sealant AFTER the tires were seated. In short, the 
tires were seated while completely dry. Here is how I did it.

First, I seated the tires in the normal manner with an inner tube. Then I 
broke ONE bead and removed the inner tube. I installed the tubeless tire 
stem. Then I worked my way around the rim and pulled the loose bead outward 
on the rim to seat it as best as I could. It wasn't fully seated of course, 
but somewhat close. Then I just pumped the tire up and seated it, didn't 
even remove the valve core (as some recommend for faster air flow) because 
my pump fit the valve stem better with the core in. It was actually quite 
easy to seat the tire with my floor pump! Full disclosure, I have the high 
volume Lezyne Dirt Floor Drive Pump, but really I think any floor pump 
would have worked. My daughter seated one of the tires and I seated the 
other. Easy both times. I think the key is to have one bead completely on 
and the second bead pulled in close like I did.

So far I'm quite satisfied with tubeless. My goal was to avoid having to 
use a heavy commuter tire because I really love the ride of the Babyshoe 
Pass EL's. I see no weight savings with tubeless and I don't care. If there 
is a difference in performance I can't tell. I was already using Schwalbe 
SV14 light (130 gram) inner tubes and the ride was sweet (when I didn't 
flat). I'm interested only in flat protection because with all the goat 
heads and other thorns around here flats were annoyingly common with tubes. 
I probably used more Orange Seal than necessary, but we will see. I'll 
probably carry two inner tubes and a patch kit as emergency backup, so 
again...no weight savings. But if I don't get flats, it will be worth it. I 
use my bike to commute to work. It is only 5 miles each direction, but I 
get up early and extend my morning commute somewhere fun to get a 90 minute 
or so morning ride. I don't want to be fixing a flat out in the boonies at 
dawn before work. Been there, done that!

So hopefully tubeless will be the answer for me...time will tell.

Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: The need for black shorts/today's ride (non-epic). Wool versus synthetics. Cotton jersey for postage.

2015-07-18 Thread Justin August
If you tie a bandana onto your frame you'll never be without a rag and you can 
have mild protection from over rotating bars and poles to which you lock up. 
-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bike Friday Pocket Rocket 58cm $1400 shipped CONUS

2015-07-18 Thread Joe Bernard
We're getting way off topic here so I'll answer this one, then get off the 
internets and go for a ride. I owned a Dahon Speed Uno, steel singlespeed, 
coaster brake only. It's light and folds fast/compact. I only sold it 'cause I 
live in such a hilly area. It's a good starter folder for not much cash, I 
recommend it. 

Riv content: mine looked great with a Brooks B17 and XS Sackville!

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Re: [RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread cyclotourist
It's a vicious circle: We just buy, sell, and re-purchase each other's
stuff here!



On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 4:25 PM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd add that this is a very honest and trusting group. I've sold items
 before I had time to upload photos of actual items, and folks trusted my
 description and bought without photos. On my end, I try and be as
 descriptive and honest as I can when selling.
 And I've trusted folks as well and bought items sight unseen.
 David
 Chicago


 On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 5:55:39 PM UTC-5, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:

 On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 So,
 I'm somewhat new, and I've probably bought enough stuff off the list to
 build a couple bikes. I've also hooked up a friend with a complete
 bike/large purchase. 99% of the transactions were smooth. Had one bad one,
 from a pretty consistent contributing member (who has since disappeared).
 100$ lesson learned. The key to PayPal is to do it as a  paying for goods
 and services transaction. Friends and family offers zero protection, as I
 found out. For a big purchase, you might get pushback from the seller
 because they will have to pay a paypal fee that can be avoided in friends
 and family. Offering to cover that fee is useful in making everyone happy
 and covering yourself. Still, I wouldn't  hesitate to buy and sell here.
 It's a good place.


 Hey All,
 I have have had people 'confused' about what they were gonna get when I
 sent a pic of same and that's what arrived. So a set of pedals and cages but
 no straps is just thatno straps. But never an issue.

 Clarity. Total disclosure. You are selling to a 'friend'. You are. They
 are just friends you have not yet met.

 I think that has been the ethic from the get go and I'm on board.

 Chris
 Redding, Ca.

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[RBW] Re: Sam on tour

2015-07-18 Thread 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks Jeff.  I love that Sam color.  Irish green is what I call it..

What about the rear?  Did it attach straight up ?

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 10:09:50 AM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:

 Tubus Cargo in the rear, and Tara up front. I had experimented with a 
 couple different Old Man Mountain racks up front, but they sat the weight 
 higher than I prefer. To attach the Tara, I bought Tubus fork leg mounts 
 meant for attaching the Tara to forks without proper lowrider bosses - 
 these were rock solid. 

 Sam took a bit of getting used to with ~48 lbs split 60/40 rear/front, so 
 it's worth a test ride or two before heading out on a longer tour. Adding 
 up to 6 liters of water on the back in an MSR bladder added significant 
 weight, but didn't further change handling characteristics, except for 
 slowing me down a bitter going uphill.



 On Saturday, July 18, 2015, 'hangtownmatt' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:

 This is good news because I have a Sam and have been told it's not up to 
 the task of fully loaded touring.  And it probably isn't capable of 
 carrying 100 lbs but I wouldn't want to carry much more than 50lbs anyway.  
 Would you mind sharing which Tubus racks you have and how they are attached 
 because another thing I've heard is that Tubus is not compatible with Sam.  
 Did you use P clamps?

 Thanks for sharing,

 Matt

 On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 4:13:34 PM UTC-7, Jeff wrote:

 I've just returned from a fully loaded partial tour across Pennsylvania 
 on my Sam Hillborne, and I'm happy to report that outside of a mechanical 
 issue that was not Sam's fault that caused me to return home with a 
 different, scavenged rear derailleur than I started with, and multi-patched 
 tubes, he behaved wonderfully. 

 Sam carried a camping load of ~47 pounds plus up to 6 liters of water at 
 times, along with my non-svelt self over rural roads, graveled mountain 
 roads, roads that were vertical and muddy and rocky enough to be referred 
 to as mountain goat paths instead of roads (okay, I pushed Sam up that one) 
 as well as highway shoulders and through state parks. 

 Our tour did not go as planned, but things often don't, and we 
 eventually, sooner than later, strayed from our pre-planned route and ended 
 a day earlier than expected, but these are unimportant details. Life on a 
 bike is great and Sam is a more than worthy steed. 

 Upon returning I stripped Sam of his Tubus racks, installed a new rear 
 derailleur and took him for a quick spin and he feels awful. He wants his 
 camping load back, and he wants to go for a long ride, and wake up 
 somewhere different tomorrow. 



 -Jeff
 Silver Spring, MD

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar in northern VT To try?

2015-07-18 Thread cyclotourist
Said it before... Love this list!

On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:11 PM, 'Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com wrote:
 I live in Boston and I've got a 62cm if you want to try it out.

 On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:

 Anybody out there in northern VT with a 58 or 62 Hunq that would let me
 give her a test ride?

 I'm btw sizes and would like to make sure the larger Hunq will do me well.

 Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread David Banzer
I'd add that this is a very honest and trusting group. I've sold items 
before I had time to upload photos of actual items, and folks trusted my 
description and bought without photos. On my end, I try and be as 
descriptive and honest as I can when selling.
And I've trusted folks as well and bought items sight unseen.
David
Chicago

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 5:55:39 PM UTC-5, Chris in Redding, Ca. wrote:

 On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 So, 
 I'm somewhat new, and I've probably bought enough stuff off the list to 
 build a couple bikes. I've also hooked up a friend with a complete 
 bike/large purchase. 99% of the transactions were smooth. Had one bad one, 
 from a pretty consistent contributing member (who has since disappeared). 
 100$ lesson learned. The key to PayPal is to do it as a  paying for goods 
 and services transaction. Friends and family offers zero protection, as I 
 found out. For a big purchase, you might get pushback from the seller 
 because they will have to pay a paypal fee that can be avoided in friends 
 and family. Offering to cover that fee is useful in making everyone happy 
 and covering yourself. Still, I wouldn't  hesitate to buy and sell here. 
 It's a good place.


 Hey All, 
 I have have had people 'confused' about what they were gonna get when I 
 sent a pic of same and that's what arrived. So a set of pedals and cages 
 but no straps is just thatno straps. But never an issue. 

 Clarity. Total disclosure. You are selling to a 'friend'. You are. They 
 are just friends you have not yet met. 

 I think that has been the ethic from the get go and I'm on board. 

 Chris
 Redding, Ca.


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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

2015-07-18 Thread Fullylugged
Hopefully you did not injure yourself on the bike, and also hope that healing 
is happening.

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[RBW] Re: Nervous about my first Riv: Ordered a Cheviot today!

2015-07-18 Thread Clayton.sf
You will be very happy.

The Cheviut is the most special (in a good way) bike I have pedaled in 34 
years. A fantastic road' trail bike.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Rambouillet Touring Upgrades

2015-07-18 Thread Fullylugged
I rode my blue Ram today over a course that included a fair bit of coarse 
pavement. I put a HOW made wheelset on that uses Velocity Aeroheat rims on Paul 
hubs. It's really a cyclocross set up, but works great. The rims are a bit 
wider than standard road rims and 1 1/2 tires work very well on them. The 
smallest tire I've tried or would try is 32 mm, but bigger is better.  Very 
nice ride, btw.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar in northern VT To try?

2015-07-18 Thread 'Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch
I live in Boston and I've got a 62cm if you want to try it out.

On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 10:46:09 AM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:

 Anybody out there in northern VT with a 58 or 62 Hunq that would let me 
 give her a test ride?   

 I'm btw sizes and would like to make sure the larger Hunq will do me well. 

 Thanks, 
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[RBW] Re: questions about buying /selling a bike on this group

2015-07-18 Thread Chris in Redding, Ca.
On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 2:00:08 PM UTC-7, drew wrote:

 So, 
 I'm somewhat new, and I've probably bought enough stuff off the list to 
 build a couple bikes. I've also hooked up a friend with a complete 
 bike/large purchase. 99% of the transactions were smooth. Had one bad one, 
 from a pretty consistent contributing member (who has since disappeared). 
 100$ lesson learned. The key to PayPal is to do it as a  paying for goods 
 and services transaction. Friends and family offers zero protection, as I 
 found out. For a big purchase, you might get pushback from the seller 
 because they will have to pay a paypal fee that can be avoided in friends 
 and family. Offering to cover that fee is useful in making everyone happy 
 and covering yourself. Still, I wouldn't  hesitate to buy and sell here. 
 It's a good place.


Hey All, 
I have have had people 'confused' about what they were gonna get when I 
sent a pic of same and that's what arrived. So a set of pedals and cages 
but no straps is just thatno straps. But never an issue. 

Clarity. Total disclosure. You are selling to a 'friend'. You are. They are 
just friends you have not yet met. 

I think that has been the ethic from the get go and I'm on board. 

Chris
Redding, Ca.

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[RBW] 1UpUSA Bike Rack and Rivs

2015-07-18 Thread Michael Hechmer
Thanks to everyone who gave me feed back on how various bike racks worked 
with Rivs, fenders, racks, and wide bars.  In the end we bought the 1UpUSA 
rack and offer this initial review

Bottom line - Rack is an A, customer service is gentlemen's C.

First the rack.  It is as solid and almost as easy to set up as they claim. 
 Once learned it is pretty simple to live with and works well with my large 
Saluki and Pat's Betty.  Pictures here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/25287678@N08/sets/72157655639570388

It was easy enough to get the rack onto the car, and adding or removing the 
second carrier is literally a one minute job.  I initially ran into trouble 
getting it set up to work with fenders on 650B tires and had enough 
frustration to almost send it back.  After some experimenting however I got 
it rock solid.

The rack comes preconfigured to work with 700C tires, without fenders or a 
rack.  I bought a pair of the fender adapters to add to the rear supports 
but found two problems.  The rear carrier pinched, crushed actually, the 
fender stays before getting tight to the fender and the front attachment 
didn't quite get to the tire before hitting the fender.  I lowered both the 
front and rear bars so that they would hit the wheels sooner.  (you can see 
in the pictures how the tire stops have been lowered.  This worked well in 
the front but continued to bend the rear fender stays.  I went ahead and 
pushed the rear tight.  This held the fender very firmly but allowed the 
wheel to move across the width of the two vertical wheel holders.  When I 
released the carrier from the wheel I found that the stays immediately 
bounced back into position.  You can see this clearly in one of the photos. 
 I decided to simply add toe straps around the rear wheels, which held them 
firmly to one side.

I took the rig out for a shakedown cruise which included 5 miles of dirt 
road, 5 miles of bad chip and seal and 5 miles of smooth highway.  Pat 
drove while I sat in the back seat and observed the bikes.  Given the 
amount of weight cantilevered off the back of the car and the roughness of 
the roads there was plenty of movement of the cars suspension but 
absolutely none between the bike and carrier nor the carrier and the hitch.

The second bike carrier can be removed very easily and the whole rig then 
folds up out of the way, much better than any Tule, Yakima, or Saris rack 
that I have seen.

So A for easy on and off and A for solidness.  A for fitting two complex 
bikes without any interference.

Service.  Before ordering I sent two emails to the company seeking 
clarification of their shipping policy.  I never got an answer.  As I was 
working through the fender / rack / 650B set up, I called them.  I told the 
nice lady at the other end of the line that I was having problems with the 
set up, and before I send this back to you I would like to talk to someone 
who can speak about these issues.  She promised that someone would call me 
but no one ever has.

C for customer service.

Michael


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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, Soma Portola Handlebar, TRP RRL SR Retro Brake Levers

2015-07-18 Thread Keith Muller
All Items are Sold!

Thanks,

Keith

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 3:08:57 PM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote:

 I'll take the levers for sure.

 Fair winds,

 Captain Conway Bennett

 On Jul 18, 2015, at 2:07 PM, Keith Muller pharm...@gmail.com 
 javascript: wrote:


 Stem  Bar are Sold.  I still have the TRP Brake Levers available for sale!


 Thanks,

 Keith

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[RBW] Re: Trigger Shifters?

2015-07-18 Thread iamkeith
Funny you should ask!  I just yesterday received a box from Rivendell with 
a set of Albatross bars, to put on a mountain bike that I haven't been able 
to make peace with fit-wise, and which happens to have trigger shifters.   
I just swapped the bars on this afternoon and went for a ride. Some 
pictures attached.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5vDyx9xry58/Var9cpuWcqI/AIQ/lzv0PP_fHzc/s1600/alb01.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iOQ1M3fr7_E/Var9gHe7jZI/AIY/IONWeZ3ATro/s1600/alb02.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Wg-j6cS3zjw/Var9iqmcGFI/AIg/2uADKxy_bno/s1600/alb03.jpg


In general, they seem to work pretty well and, to me, look just fine.   
They have a comfortable and very natural / ergonomic shifting motion, but I 
did find that I accidentally bumped the larger, thumb (cable pull) triggers 
a bit when riding on really rough trails.   The smaller, index finger 
(cable release) triggers are well protected though.   These are late 90s 
xtr with separate shifter and lever clamps.  I think the integrated version 
that David mentioned would actually give you a little more room to slide 
them forward.  As is, this combination leaves just enough room on the 
straight section for the grips.  No room left for a fork lock-out button 
but hopefully you're not dealing with that nonsense, like I am.  

As for the bars themselves in this type of application.  jury's out.   
I couldn't climb at all on steep singletrack, because my front wheel kept 
lifting up.  Actually, I think I kept bumping the shifter precisely because 
I was intuitively trying to shift my weight forward by moving my grip.

Also to agree with David said:  If you have the option and aren't 
considering trigger shifters just because you already have them, get thumb 
shifters by all means!

On Friday, July 17, 2015 at 9:00:23 PM UTC-6, Steve Cole wrote:

 I know Riv doesn't generally condone/approve of the use of trigger 
 shifters -- they don't sell them.  I'm wondering whether any list members 
 have used them and, if so, whether you might recommend them when compared 
 to bar ends with Albatross bars.

 Thanks for your reply.

 Steve Cole
 Arlington, VA


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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet Touring Upgrades

2015-07-18 Thread David Banzer
Hi John,
I have a Redwood (less fancy Ram) - it fit 700x35c Paselas (36mm actual if 
I recall correctly). I think you might be able to squeeze in the SPEED Ride 
tire, though making no promises. The CROSS ride would definitely not fit as 
the knobs would make the tire taller than a road tread.
I'd measure the tires you have on there, actual width, then measure how 
much distance you have to the top of the brakes. Width itself shouldn't be 
a concern, just height.
In my case I wanted at least 38mm tires AND fenders. Recently converted it 
to 650b and now fit 48mm tires with room for fenders. Just a consideration.
David
Chicago

On Saturday, July 18, 2015 at 3:29:01 PM UTC-5, John Serrao wrote:

 Long time Rambouillet rider on a bit of a custom build I did myself: 9 
 speed ultegra components on a ritchey cross wheel. Typically I'm riding 32 
 vittoria randoneurs but I'm currently gearing up for a 350mi tour over 
 hardpack gravel and looking at my tire options. I want to put cyclocross 
 with Kevlar reinforcement on the bike. 

 I really like the continental cyclocross ride tires riv is selling, which 
 they say come out to being 38-39mm in practice, but I'm worried the frame 
 can't handle them. Any guidance? I've got tektro Quartz r730 brakes with no 
 fenders so clearance looks good there. And my wheels would take them no 
 problem. Just not sure if the frame clearance is sufficient. 

 Also wondering about any rack recommendations you guys might have. 
 Probably looking to Frankenstein something together for a front rack and 
 upgrade my rear rack to something nice.

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