[RBW] Re: Lowrider max weight on Rivendell road bikes?

[Peter Adler]

I don't know how relevant to your question this info will be, but just as a 
datapoint:

The one bike where I do any noticeable front loading is my 1971 Raleigh 
International, which I would call an Ur-Rivendell (the International was 
the bike that the Japanese manufacturers of the late 70s-early 80s cloned, 
which led to Bridgestone and Rivendell). Using Bruce Gordon racks (front 
lowriders) and Ortlieb Back Rollers front and rear, I have carried two full 
cases of wine on MUPs. That's six full glass bottles per bag, for distances 
of up to fifteen miles.

The bike gets squirrely with only a front load, but it smooths out a lot 
once you balance it out in back. I rode out six miles along the SF 
waterfront to the Rivendell picnic on Sunday with an Ortlieb handlebar bag 
plus the two rear Back Rollers that never come off. I had gone pannierless 
the day before, and the bike felt skittish with six pounds in the bar bag. 
On Sunday, I moved the front load into the panniers (a Kryptonite New York, 
mostly), and put about four pounds (snacks, tools, a couple cans of ginger 
ale, sunscreen, a hardcover book to read on BART while I crossed under the 
Bay) into the handlebar bag; the ride was far smoother.

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 7:31:43 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> ... with stock forks, that is. What do y'all consider too much in lowrider 
> panniers?
>
> I'm still experiementing, and yes, rear weight is better (for me), but 
> t'other day I rode home with almost 20 lb in the front Sports Packers -- 
> 20+ lb in one, 18+ lb in the other.
>
> Handling was certainly different -- the bike didn't want to turn, but once 
> I got used to leaning more and "turning" less, it felt OK.
>
> I daresay 10 lb/side is the max, and I daresay too that the bike would 
> feel better with another 20+ lb in the rear at the same time, but for now 
> that is my theoretical maximum.
>
> I recall perversely putting 2 gallons of water *per side* in lowriders on 
> the Sam Hill. Now that was a straight ahead only feeling!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Steve Palincsar]

On 09/22/2015 09:58 AM, C.J. Filip wrote:
Unfortunately the Hetre/Babyshoe are as wide the Saluki will take. 
 Still, excited to slap a pair on the Stag!




The Saluki was designed back when 38mm was the widest 650B available.  
Hetres only just fit.


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[RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[David Banzer]

That's good to know. I think the wider measurements were coming from wider 
rims. 
Are you using the regular or extralight version?
I have clearance (minimal, less than ideal) for Vee Rubber Speedsters on my 
Redwood, which measure 47mm for me. I might need to wear them out first 
(which should take a while as the tread is fairly thick) before I try out a 
pair of Switchbacks.
Even better, though unlikely - any listers in Chicago have these and would 
let me mount one up on my rear wheel to see if they'll fit?
David
Chicago

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 10:43:26 AM UTC-5, Jon Doyle wrote:
>
> The Switchbacks measure 48mm on my Veloctiy A23 and Synergy rims. That's 
> after 3 weeks, 30psi, and a 200 or so miles.
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 9:37:44 PM UTC-4, Zach Duval wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone mounted these tires? These seem to be dream tires for my 
>> Hillborne, but I've not yet had a pair of Compass tires, and so I'd like 
>> some clarification as to fit. I've read that they may grow 2-3mm after 
>> settling in?
>>
>> Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
>>
>> Zach
>> Kalispell, MT
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Riv Picnic.

[Leslie]

I'm happy where I live, but, at times like this, I wish it was easier to 
have snuck away to Cali for a day


-L




On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 10:35:35 PM UTC-4, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>
> Good day for bikes, eating and meeting folks also lug tossing/fishing.
>
> Bad day for kites.
>
> Pictures proved that lug fishing is the only type of fishing needed.
> https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/2AsPT8
>
> Mashley
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

[Garth]

   The bottom line is it does not matter what we say !   Whether it is said 
to be harmless or deadly, and all degrees in between  . . . . .  who's to 
know without any doubt, Absolutely ?

Decide for your Self , no one else can no matter the so-called 
"credentials".   

 Life is Love and Love trumps any and every fear , in which there is 
nothing but Love and Life.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Schwalbe seems to be the way to go! I had some on a bike I sold, and no 
problems. Of course the Q-tubes are problem free on the other rims as 
well... :-) 

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 6:48:21 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> I've never had good experiences with Q tubes and Kenda tubes. I switched 
> to schwalbe and have never looked back since. Same rims, same tires.
>
> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 4:17:08 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>>
>> Interesting thought. They are Q-tubes. 700X35-43mm. 
>> But, the exact same tubes I have on six bikes, including the rear wheel 
>> on this one w/ same Synergy rims. This is the only rim out of 12 that is 
>> doing this???
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:19 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
>>
>>> What tubes were you using? It sounds more like defective tubes than a 
>>> defective rim.
>>> David
>>> Chicago
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 1:54:10 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:

 Third flat in two years from valve stem ripping out of the tube on my 
 front Velocity Synergy rim. First two were catastrophic during rides, 
 almost dumping me. The third time was this morning when I went out to the 
 garage.

 Rim tape seems fine. No burrs on valve stem hole. I put an extra layer 
 of Velox tape over to reinforce the area. Cut out a small 1X1cm of tube 
 and 
 slipped over the valve stem to reinforce that. I don't over-tighten the 
 valve lock-nut and am leaving it off after this morning repair. 

 Running out of options here! Any suggestion? If not, is this possibly a 
 warranty issue for defective rim? I'd hate to send it back and have 
 Velocity write about me on their blog.

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 Cheers,
 David

 Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace

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[RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

[Kieran J]

My Mon-Fri commute is about 8km each way from the west side of downtown 
into the city core. It gets progressively more and more dense and crowded 
as I go - tolerable on good days, hellish on bad ones. It is 100% on city 
streets that include unseparated bike lanes, sharrows and nothing at all.

If I want to, I can go the long way: a large U-shape route south, then 
east, then north, following a separated MUP trail along the lake front and 
up into the downtown area along city streets. This almost doubles the 
transit time, and I'm usually too impatient to do that.

Most of the errands I need to run - groceries, beer, coffee, etc. are 
directly between work and home, so the route doesn't change much.

My partner and I have a car, which we mainly use to get out of the city. 
Trying to drive in-town is an exercise in blowing your stack in 
frustration. Maybe once a month, I put the bike on the car and drive 1-2 
hours into the country if I am particularly jones-ing for some peaceful 
riding time and I have the time. Those rides are usually 50-75km in length 
- pretty much my limit.

KJ in Toronto


On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 1:17:18 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> On average would you say? 
> Urban, suburban, or rural?

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[RBW] Re: Lowrider max weight on Rivendell road bikes?

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Doug, Peter, and (..?..). I too think about 10 per side is top, and
that this after I have some rear weight.

After selling my Motobecane and the Ram, I now have only this '03 for
grocery loading (well, I'll God willing have a new Chauncey off road bike
in a couple of months, too) and the '03 doesn't do rear loads as well as
these 2 -- the Motobecane, as I've said before, was the best; the Ram was
quite good. The front racks are meant to take over once I hit about 30 in
the rear, and for that purpose I think they will do well.

(..?..) -- the lister who is known as Lungimsam (I'm sorry if that is your
first name): these are customs and there is no graphical documentation,
only aural or oral, and per this, I am safe.

Patrick Moore, who would like 2 cases of wine his own self, in ABQ, NM.

(What wine? Me, cheapish, recent: Lindemans Bin XXX Shiraz on sale at
Albertson's for $5.99; and something my sister found at Costco called B3 or
N3 or H3 -- forget varietal, vintage, or vineyard. Forget name and age and
country. Just remember wine. Mm.)


On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> ... with stock forks, that is. What do y'all consider too much in lowrider
> panniers?
>
> I'm still experiementing, and yes, rear weight is better (for me), but
> t'other day I rode home with almost 20 lb in the front Sports Packers --
> 20+ lb in one, 18+ lb in the other.
>
> Handling was certainly different -- the bike didn't want to turn, but once
> I got used to leaning more and "turning" less, it felt OK.
>
> I daresay 10 lb/side is the max, and I daresay too that the bike would
> feel better with another 20+ lb in the rear at the same time, but for now
> that is my theoretical maximum.
>
> I recall perversely putting 2 gallons of water *per side* in lowriders on
> the Sam Hill. Now that was a straight ahead only feeling!
>
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>
> *
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto
>
>



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[RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[David Person]

David B, I'm not sure if your question regarding the casing weight was directed 
at me or not, but my Barlow Pass are extra light (EL).

David Person

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[RBW] Re: C in October

[Pondero]

Okay locals, I've coordinated with my family, factored in our constraints, 
and even exchanged a couple of emails with Tony DeFilippo to get some tips. 
 Here is our plan for the C tour "rolling start" for any who wish to 
simply say "hi", ride with us a while, our ride with us all the way to 
Cumberland.

Our start date is Tuesday, October 6.

Our train that includes friend (Steve Butcher), son-in-law (Carey Jones), 
and me will depart out of Silver Spring, MD.  We'll make two stops to meet 
up with folks.  The first stop will be in Bethesda.  We will meet up at 
0830 at Bethesda Bagels (http://www.bethesdabagels.com/) and plan to roll 
out by 0915.  That allows us to reach our next stop at Fletchers Boathouse 
(C rendezvous) by 0945ish.  From there we'll head north on the C for a 
few days.  For any who might be joining us for part of the way, we plan to 
lunch in Leesburg that Tuesday, and camp the first night at the Indian 
Flats hiker/biker site at approx. mile 42.

I believe Tony is planning to join us for the first day and overnight.  I 
recall that Rusty, Erl, Jeff, Kellie, and Minh have all expressed interest 
in some level of participation.  I hope to meet several of you on this 
trip...and thanks again to everyone who offered planning help!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] FS: pedals, f and r derailleurs; saddle

[bertin753]

Looks can be very deceiving.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Chris Cullum  wrote:
> 
> FWIW, the FD looks like a Campy Mirage not an LX.
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2015 5:08 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>> 1. As new (~15 miles only) MKS Urban pedals with Christophe large clips and 
>> leather straps. $65 shipped CONUS. Smooth bearings. I find I prefer 
>> walking in SPD shoes to riding in walking shoes.
>> 
>> 2. LX fd, vg: $22 shipped CONUS.
>> 
>> 3. XT 8 speed rd, dirty but otherwise vg pulleys smooth, no play. $35 
>> shipped CONUS.
>> 
>> 4. Vetta Comfort Flex saddle, vinyl cover, vg, $18 shipped CONUS.
>> 
>> *
>> The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
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>> individualities revolve. Chuang Tzu
>> Stat crux dum volvitur orbis. Carthusian motto
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

[Don Compton]

Tim,
Many Riv's built for 700c wheels have fairly low bottom brackets. How does 
that work with going to 650 rims?

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 7:50:19 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I have a Riv Road Standard, kind of a pre-Ram, pre-Roadeo, and I've 
> modified it more towards touring than fast road riding.  
>
> Mine cleared a 700 x 28 with no fenders, which I found limiting.  I prefer 
> riding with fenders and wider tires for varied surfaces (I even put fenders 
> on my new carbon cross bike -- it has fender bosses).
>
> So, I:
> converted the Riv Road to 650b x 38 with long reach brakes
> added full fenders
> added a rear rack (Nitto R20 Mt Campee)
> added a front rack (Nitto F20 Mt Campee or Nitto M1, with Tubus clamps and 
> fork adapters to fit)
> mounted a Brooks Flyer Special
> built up a dynamo wheelset (for the Luxos U headlight and Topline brake 
> light)
> and added all kinds of accessories (frame pump, wired computer, headset 
> spacer bell, phone mount, etc).
>
> Rivs can be quite versatile, if you are.  
>
> I already have an excellent steel go-fast bike, so the Riv fits better in 
> my stable as a light tourer.  
>
> I put tons of miles in on the Riv for commuting, social rides, tours, etc. 
>  
>
> In comparison, I almost never ride my skinny-tired gofast bike, and it's 
> for sale.
>
>
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Kieran J  
> wrote:
>
>> Agreed. I do wonder if my Ram has a future as a touring bike. The fork 
>> would need more attachment points - or maybe a different fork. 
>>
>> It's quite overbuilt in its present config as a stripped-down, go-fast 
>> type machine - especially for a lanky dude like me. I wouldn't mind 
>> replacing it with a XXL Boulder Road Sport or something similar. Something 
>> lighter, faster and more spring-y. I'll add it to the list!
>>
>> KJ
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:44:23 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>>  It would have made a wonderful touring bike, I guess. And it was 
>>> beefier than it needed to be; compared to the very light Motobecane, say.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: [BOB] FS: pedals, f and r derailleurs; saddle

[bertin753]

I apologize! It is a Mirage!

Sorry.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 22, 2015, at 8:40 PM, bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Looks can be very deceiving.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 22, 2015, at 6:20 PM, Chris Cullum  wrote:
>> 
>> FWIW, the FD looks like a Campy Mirage not an LX.
>> 
>>> On Sep 22, 2015 5:08 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>>> 1. As new (~15 miles only) MKS Urban pedals with Christophe large clips and 
>>> leather straps. $65 shipped CONUS. Smooth bearings. I find I prefer 
>>> walking in SPD shoes to riding in walking shoes.
>>> 
>>> 2. LX fd, vg: $22 shipped CONUS.
>>> 
>>> 3. XT 8 speed rd, dirty but otherwise vg pulleys smooth, no play. $35 
>>> shipped CONUS.
>>> 
>>> 4. Vetta Comfort Flex saddle, vinyl cover, vg, $18 shipped CONUS.
>>> 
>>> *
>>> The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a 
>>> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
>>> individualities revolve. Chuang Tzu
>>> Stat crux dum volvitur orbis. Carthusian motto
>>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Peter Adler]

Same here. My LBS used to stock Continentals, which worked great; I 
typically ran them for 3K-5K miles. Ever since they dropped the Contis and 
replaced them with Kenda/Q-Tubes, the stupid things blow all the time. I've 
been going out to RBWHQ for Contis for the last year, but I just noticed 
that the Rubenas are back in stock and so the Contis are gone. I haven't 
quite mustered the consumer will to spring for Schwalbes, but that's the 
logical next step. I'd been thinking of getting a pair or two of Challenge 
Strada Biancas from Wiggle, so that's a good opportunity to load up on Euro 
tubes for cheap.

I'm not sure who the OEM is for Bontrager or Novara (REI house label) 
tubes, but I assume they're also Kendas. Eccch.

Peter "Conti tubes + Compass EL = heaven" Adler
Berkeley, CA/USA


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>
> I've never had good experiences with Q tubes and Kenda tubes. I switched 
> to schwalbe and have never looked back since. Same rims, same tires.
>

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[RBW] Re: Lowrider max weight on Rivendell road bikes?

[Lungimsam]

Also look up your racks' weight limitations so they don't fail.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

I don't know about Bonty, but Novara tubes are made in China vs. Taiwan for 
Q or Indonesia for Schwalbe.


On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:18:00 PM UTC-7, Peter Adler wrote:
>
> Same here. My LBS used to stock Continentals, which worked great; I 
> typically ran them for 3K-5K miles. Ever since they dropped the Contis and 
> replaced them with Kenda/Q-Tubes, the stupid things blow all the time. I've 
> been going out to RBWHQ for Contis for the last year, but I just noticed 
> that the Rubenas are back in stock and so the Contis are gone. I haven't 
> quite mustered the consumer will to spring for Schwalbes, but that's the 
> logical next step. I'd been thinking of getting a pair or two of Challenge 
> Strada Biancas from Wiggle, so that's a good opportunity to load up on Euro 
> tubes for cheap.
>
> I'm not sure who the OEM is for Bontrager or Novara (REI house label) 
> tubes, but I assume they're also Kendas. Eccch.
>
> Peter "Conti tubes + Compass EL = heaven" Adler
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 6:48:21 AM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> I've never had good experiences with Q tubes and Kenda tubes. I switched 
>> to schwalbe and have never looked back since. Same rims, same tires.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

[Leslie]

On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 2:14:37 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
>
> “… walking without shoes has many hidden dangers: stepping on sharp metal 
> or glass; picking up a stray virus like plantar fasciitis, a parasite like 
> hookworm, or a bacteria like pseudomonas; not to mention risking breaking 
> or severing a toe."
>


Sorry I'm late jumping in on this conversation (and I may have missed this 
being addressed), but, a point of clarification

The above sentence, to me, reads that plantar fasciitis is caused by a 
virus, which, is not the case  plantar fasciitis being a condition 
where there's inflammation of the plantar fascia, through overuse, being 
overweight, improper footwear, etc... 
(BTDT).

-L

(A Tennesseean, who is barefoot occasionally, but more often, if not in 
hiking boots, is wearing Chacos);)

 

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[RBW] Re: C in October

[Tony DeFilippo]

See you then!  My plan is to ride up to Bethesda from Alexandria and be at 
the bagel place at 0830..  if anyone is interested in meeting up on that 
connector bit hit me up off-list and we can figure out a rendezvous.  I'll 
be riding Tues, camping and then returning to Alexandria on Weds.

I'm excited to meet Chris and hopefully some other lister's from the DC 
area I haven't met so far.  This'll be my first bike camping experience so 
I'm glad to be doing it with such a good crew!

Thanks Chris for setting this up!

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[RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Lungimsam]

Zack , if you like I can measure my fork and stay widths on my 52 hill borne if 
that helps.
 42mm 650b tires on my hill borne with fenders pushes the envelope on fender 
clearance in my experience. Especially near the fork crown where the sidepulls 
brake arms limit fender height. Tired get very close to fenders.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Zach Duval]

I THINK that they could fit on a Hillborne, but I don't want to be the 
guinea pig...

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 1:31:58 PM UTC-6, Steve Palincsar wrote:
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>
>
> On 09/22/2015 09:58 AM, C.J. Filip wrote: 
> > Unfortunately the Hetre/Babyshoe are as wide the Saluki will take. 
> >  Still, excited to slap a pair on the Stag! 
> > 
>
> The Saluki was designed back when 38mm was the widest 650B available.   
> Hetres only just fit. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Mike Schiller]

hey dude time to dump those wheels and pony up for some tubeless 
wheels.  Problem solved!

~mike
Carlsbad Ca..

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[RBW] Re: [BOB] FS: pedals, f and r derailleurs; saddle

[Chris Cullum]

FWIW, the FD looks like a Campy Mirage not an LX.
On Sep 22, 2015 5:08 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:

> 1. As new (~15 miles only) MKS Urban pedals with Christophe large clips
> and leather straps. $65 shipped CONUS. Smooth bearings. I find I prefer
> walking in SPD shoes to riding in walking shoes.
>
> 2. LX fd, vg: $22 shipped CONUS.
>
> 3. XT 8 speed rd, dirty but otherwise vg pulleys smooth, no play. $35
> shipped CONUS.
>
> 4. Vetta Comfort Flex saddle, vinyl cover, vg, $18 shipped CONUS.
>
> *
> *The point which is the pivot of the norm is the motionless center of a
> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and
> individualities revolve. *Chuang Tzu
>
> *Stat crux dum volvitur orbis.* Carthusian motto
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO Selle Anatomical X saddle black

[Hugh Smitham]

Don,

I've responded to your post regarding the Selle Anatomica X saddle. Still
no word back?

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Sep 17, 2015 9:21 PM, "Don Compton"  wrote:

> I have one in great shape. $70 plus shipping
>
> On Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 5:26:49 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> As the post says looking for the above saddle in black. Figured I'd see
>> if anyone has one they're not using before I spring for a new one.
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> ~Hugh
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[cyclotourist]

Ha! That would fix things for sure!!! Stupid tubes...

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Mike Schiller 
wrote:

> hey dude time to dump those wheels and pony up for some tubeless
> wheels.  Problem solved!
>
> ~mike
> Carlsbad Ca..
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[RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[David Person]

I've been riding Barlow Pass ELs on Compass Grand Bois rims since June on 
my Hillborne.  The rear measures 37.5 at 45 psi and the front 36.75 at 35 
psi as measured this morning.

David

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Shimano triple front derailleur 8s/9s

[Garth]

Are you sure it is the 4600 and not the 4603 ?  The 00 is the double, the 
03 the triple designation. 

Is it a true 28.6mm clamp or is it 31.8 with a shim ?

I'm assuming 31.8 w/shim as this is what the docs spec. 

These appear still available new , is it that your seeking a used one or 
one may here and not using ? 



On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:12:50 AM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote:
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> The tiagra is the fd-4600.  Both are clamp on style. 
>
> Fair winds, 
>
> Captain Conway Bennett 
>
> > On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Tim Gavin  > wrote: 
> > 
> > Conway- 
> > Could you confirm the model of the Tiagra you have? Or, what year is the 
> Cross Check from? 
> > 
> > I don't want another FD-4403; the spring tab broke on mine because it 
> has a design flaw. 
> > 
> > Thanks, 
> > Tim 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> >> On Sep 21, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Conway Bennett  > wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I have a OE tiagra from a cross check or a sora OE from a caseroll. 
>  I'd trade either for king cages. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

[Patrick Moore]

Fun is by definition subjective!

For me, a Roadeo with 30 mm tires would be ideal -- I would have no use at
all for anything wider, or even for fenders, on this sort of bike, which in
my stable would fill the "gofast derailleur" niche.

Past racing bikes: At least some models from the early 70s can be quite Riv
like. My 1977 Motobecane Grand Record had 45 cm stays and took 29s with
fenders. It also carried 40 lb on a Fly better than any bike I can remember.

I take it that I am right in thinking that the Roadeo handles a wee bit
quicker than the Rambouillet? The Ram was a very nice bike, but handled wee
bit sedately, for my taste, for a "fun" road bike. It would have made a
wonderful touring bike, I guess. And it was beefier than it needed to be;
compared to the very light Motobecane, say.

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> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 7:08:40 PM UTC-7, Will wrote:
>>
>> This is so true. I test rode a 7 Ti with all the high end stuff ...  It
>> was way less fun than my Atlantis with the old school drive train.
>>
>
> H.  Could you define "fun"?  Seriously.  I'd posit that your
> conclusion is utterly subjective, not objective.
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Various parts taken off Cheviot

[Mike OShea]

Everything sold except bag and tires.

Thanks

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 11:51:09 AM UTC-6, Mike OShea wrote:
>
> Brake levers sold.
> Brooks sold.
> Shifters sold.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Saturday, September 19, 2015 at 5:08:09 PM UTC-6, Mike OShea wrote:
>>
>> *FS: Various parts taken off Cheviot*
>> All parts used two months and less than 200 miles unless otherwise noted. 
>> All parts purchased from Rivendell except saddle. Free shipping CON/US 
>> Paypal preferred. Please contact off list. Thanks.
>>
>> Pair Schwalbe Marathon wire Green Guard 700 x 38. Less than 25 miles use. 
>> $50.00 Included free with tires, older slightly tarnished King Cage Water 
>> Bottle holder.
>>
>> Sugino XD2 46/36/24 Crank - 172.5 Some scrapes and chain marks. $85.00
>>
>> Simano Deore Rear derailer #17138 and Claris Front derailer #17162. Has 
>> some chain scuffing and scrapes. Sold together. $45.00
>>
>> Shimano 9 speed Dur Ace Bar End Shifters #17049 Cables and housing not 
>> included. Slight scratches. $65.00
>>
>> Shimano MTB Silver Brake levers #15176. Cables and housing not included. 
>> $20.00 I will also include a free pair of Tektro Model RL720 Brake 
>> interrupters. Purchased on EBay.
>>
>> Brooks B67 Single Rail Black/Black Rail Chrome springs. Very good 
>> condition, few scuffs. Rails have some marking from seat post. Never wet, 
>> no oil, barely used. Never tensioned. $80.00 Included free with saddle, the 
>> Rivendell USB Thumb Drive Readers 0-39
>>
>> Sackville Trunk Sack- Large- Tan. Never wet. Some marks and scuffs. A few 
>> small dirt marks. 6 months use. Very good condition. $90.00
>>
>> MKS Touring pedals- little scratching. Included Power Grips Straps in 
>> black. $30.00
>>
>>
>> Thank you, Mike
>>
>> Here is a link with all the pictures:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_lirtvY6s0Qmpk3E_QIau6xKi2ByLVY9iXuySk3ehm4/edit?usp=sharing
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] The Rivendell-spotted-in-the-media thread...

[Lungimsam]

Bump

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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Philip Kim]

I've never had good experiences with Q tubes and Kenda tubes. I switched to 
schwalbe and have never looked back since. Same rims, same tires.

On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 4:17:08 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com 
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> Interesting thought. They are Q-tubes. 700X35-43mm. 
> But, the exact same tubes I have on six bikes, including the rear wheel on 
> this one w/ same Synergy rims. This is the only rim out of 12 that is doing 
> this???
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 12:19 PM, David Banzer  > wrote:
>
>> What tubes were you using? It sounds more like defective tubes than a 
>> defective rim.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 1:54:10 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Third flat in two years from valve stem ripping out of the tube on my 
>>> front Velocity Synergy rim. First two were catastrophic during rides, 
>>> almost dumping me. The third time was this morning when I went out to the 
>>> garage.
>>>
>>> Rim tape seems fine. No burrs on valve stem hole. I put an extra layer 
>>> of Velox tape over to reinforce the area. Cut out a small 1X1cm of tube and 
>>> slipped over the valve stem to reinforce that. I don't over-tighten the 
>>> valve lock-nut and am leaving it off after this morning repair. 
>>>
>>> Running out of options here! Any suggestion? If not, is this possibly a 
>>> warranty issue for defective rim? I'd hate to send it back and have 
>>> Velocity write about me on their blog.
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Confused by Nitto

[Ron Mc]

here's the Nitto catalog  
http://nitto-tokyo.sakura.ne.jp/No29-2015.pdf

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 9:42:09 AM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> Also see NITTOs own  rack page for details:
> http://nitto-tokyo.sakura.ne.jp/carrier-E.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

[RJM]

The Roadeo won't take 38's, certainly not with fenders. I think 35s are the 
tops. I was riding 32s for a while but now am running 25s, but I'm 
switching back to 32s and fenders for the winter. The bike rides great with 
those tire widths on 22 wide aluminium rims (I have been using Rolf Vigor 
RS wheelsI know, I know, totally not Riv approved, but they have been 
awesome wheels for the riding I'm doing.) I feel a little bit more 
responsive with the 25s in pacelines, when I get into them. 

On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 9:08:40 PM UTC-5, Will wrote:
>
> This is so true. I test rode a 7 Ti with all the high end stuff (fancy 
> brifters, and so on), because I was looking to buy my Last Bike. 
>
> It was way less fun than my Atlantis with the old school drive train. 
>
> I'd love to ride a Roadeo. I want 36 spoke wheels. I want fenders. I want 
> 38mm tires (at least). 2 pounds here or there is absolute nonsense. My 
> carbon friends will eventually figure this out, until then I will get 
> grief. 
>
> I've had a lot of bikes. You get what you pay for. Rivs are big $$$. They 
> are worth it. 
>
> On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 10:12:49 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>
>> Patrick,
>> When I was young and stupid, high performance cars were my bad habit. I 
>> was a golfer ( all Pac 8 1974 ) and loved cars. Well, I had suffered from 
>> back problems , even in college. At the ripe old age of 33, I replace 
>> jogging with cycling. I eventually replaced golf with road cycling. I have 
>> never raced. I just didn't want to have the same love-hate with winning and 
>> losing that I had with golf.
>> Well, I just enjoyed cycling so much ( meeting new friends who became 
>> longterm friends ) and the wonderful obsession began. After our kids grew 
>> up and left home my wife entered the sport.
>> After some major digression from the original discussion, I want to tell 
>> you this story. I have bought so many bikes( you can't even imagine and I 
>> still think that Grant 's designs are so perfect for club riders), I just 
>> ride my Roadeo. I currently weigh 186 and have been as low as 162 in the 
>> last years. Frame weight is so overrated. Underatted is how fun it is to 
>> have a great handling bike with all your shifters and whatever working 
>> flawlessly. Nobody is going to race a Roadeo, but many are missing out on 
>> the fun of riding at lower levels of effort and enjoying a bike that rides 
>> and handles like a Roadeo.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 9:21:36 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> If I had much more money than I do, the one Rivendell I'd buy in a snap 
>>> would be a Roadeo.
>>>
>>> (Tho' I'd love a Hunq and an Atlantis too. And a Legolas. But the Roadeo 
>>> would top the list.)
>>>
>>> Thanks for the descriptions of handling.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:18 AM, RJM  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah, these Roadeos make great road bikes. I have the saddle on mine 
 about even with the stem, which I find comfortable and I can still use the 
 drops on my Mark's bar fine. 
  
 I'm generally passing people while decending and this bike gives me 
 total confidence while doing so, even when the road twists and turns. I 
 did 
 a rather difficult 62 mile charity ride on this past Saturday that was 
 hilly and ridiculously windy (no tailwinds either because it just turned 
 out that way) and the bike was fine. I was tired afterwards, but never 
 once 
 uncomfortable. This specific route had some truly terrible roads on it, 
 something which I actually brought up with the organizer. One downhill was 
 just destroyed and had that gravelly (sp?) loose chip stuff all over it; 
 apparently this was a failed attempt to fix the various potholes and 
 irregularities. I was glad I had the Roadeo on that one and other riders 
 were complaining up a storm afterwards because of the condition and how 
 they had to slow way down. I didn't slow down because the bike can handle 
 that stuff fine. 
  

 On Tuesday, September 15, 2015 at 10:26:02 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:

> After someone had questions about Roadeos on the IBOB group, I thought 
> I would give and update. 
> Over the years ( 63 yo) I have had so many bikes. I never raced, just 
> was an active club rider. A few centuries a year and mostly 35-50 mile 
> rides.
> Okay I am an old fart, but the stability of Grant's handling dynamics 
> makes for a wonderful bike on long rides, especially hilly ones. There's 
> just something special about cruising down a hill at above 30 and 
> floating 
>  over the marginal bumps and feeling confident missing the potholes from 
> hell. And to top it off, The frames are works of art.
> And then there's the fit. I need my bars high. I run my bars <1cm 
> below my saddle. It allows me to have a proper tilt on my saddle and less 
> hands 

Re: [RBW] Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Patrick Moore]

I'll try that. I put only ~60 lb in, so I'll pump to max sidewall pressure.
30 mm would be a sweet spot.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Patrick, I pump them up high between rides to stretch them, and relax to
> ride pressure.
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:46:56 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> My Elk Passes are still 3 to 4 mm narrower than labeled; ~27.5 on 19 mm
>> rims, 28.5 on 21 mm rims. Not that I am really complaining; 28 mm is a good
>> size!
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[RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[C.J. Filip]

Unfortunately the Hetre/Babyshoe are as wide the Saluki will take.  Still, 
excited to slap a pair on the Stag!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Ron Mc]

Vittoria makes them for 650c x 23mm tires.  

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:26:48 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Does anyone make latex tubes for 650C or 26" X 1"-1.4" tires? I'm not 
> particular as to few mm and happily use narrow 650C tubes in 35 mm tires.
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Ron Mc  
> wrote:
>
>> If you don't mind pumping at least every week, Challenge cross latex 
>> tubes can open your eyes even further.  They make a noticeable difference 
>> in ride (and speed), though sometimes on a whoopteedoo will make you feel 
>> like a bouncing ball . I use Schwalbe for backup - I buy  tubes en masse 
>> from wiggle - load up a $50 cart to get free shipping and worry about tubes 
>> again next year.  
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 8:48:21 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>>>
>>> I've never had good experiences with Q tubes and Kenda tubes. I switched 
>>> to schwalbe and have never looked back since. Same rims, same tires.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

[Kieran J]

Agreed. I do wonder if my Ram has a future as a touring bike. The fork 
would need more attachment points - or maybe a different fork. 

It's quite overbuilt in its present config as a stripped-down, go-fast type 
machine - especially for a lanky dude like me. I wouldn't mind replacing it 
with a XXL Boulder Road Sport or something similar. Something lighter, 
faster and more spring-y. I'll add it to the list!

KJ


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>
>  It would have made a wonderful touring bike, I guess. And it was beefier 
> than it needed to be; compared to the very light Motobecane, say.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Patrick Moore]

The scuttlebutt is that they were the last mfr but no longer make them --
much noise about 650C latex on Tri and Recumbent sites. At any rate, I
can't Google up a source.

Anyone?

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> Vittoria makes them for 650c x 23mm tires.
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:26:48 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone make latex tubes for 650C or 26" X 1"-1.4" tires? I'm not
>> particular as to few mm and happily use narrow 650C tubes in 35 mm tires.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> If you don't mind pumping at least every week, Challenge cross latex
>>> tubes can open your eyes even further.  They make a noticeable difference
>>> in ride (and speed), though sometimes on a whoopteedoo will make you feel
>>> like a bouncing ball . I use Schwalbe for backup - I buy  tubes en masse
>>> from wiggle - load up a $50 cart to get free shipping and worry about tubes
>>> again next year.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 8:48:21 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:

 I've never had good experiences with Q tubes and Kenda tubes. I
 switched to schwalbe and have never looked back since. Same rims, same
 tires.


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Re: [RBW] Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Patrick Moore]

My Elk Passes are still 3 to 4 mm narrower than labeled; ~27.5 on 19 mm
rims, 28.5 on 21 mm rims. Not that I am really complaining; 28 mm is a good
size!

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 7:37 PM, Zach Duval  wrote:

> Has anyone mounted these tires? These seem to be dream tires for my
> Hillborne, but I've not yet had a pair of Compass tires, and so I'd like
> some clarification as to fit. I've read that they may grow 2-3mm after
> settling in?
>
> Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Zach
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[RBW] Lowrider max weight on Rivendell road bikes?

[Patrick Moore]

... with stock forks, that is. What do y'all consider too much in lowrider
panniers?

I'm still experiementing, and yes, rear weight is better (for me), but
t'other day I rode home with almost 20 lb in the front Sports Packers --
20+ lb in one, 18+ lb in the other.

Handling was certainly different -- the bike didn't want to turn, but once
I got used to leaning more and "turning" less, it felt OK.

I daresay 10 lb/side is the max, and I daresay too that the bike would feel
better with another 20+ lb in the rear at the same time, but for now that
is my theoretical maximum.

I recall perversely putting 2 gallons of water *per side* in lowriders on
the Sam Hill. Now that was a straight ahead only feeling!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Picnic.

[Patrick Moore]

Who owns the size XL yellow racing bike? Shades of Jobst!

Incidentally, the latest BQ has a good retrospective on Jobst.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Kurt Manley  wrote:

> That last photo, oh man. Tryin to get yourself in trouble.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 7:35:35 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:
>>
>> Good day for bikes, eating and meeting folks also lug tossing/fishing.
>>
>> Bad day for kites.
>>
>> Pictures proved that lug fishing is the only type of fishing needed.
>> https://www.flickr.com/gp/mannyacosta/2AsPT8
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Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

[Tim Gavin]

I have a Riv Road Standard, kind of a pre-Ram, pre-Roadeo, and I've
modified it more towards touring than fast road riding.

Mine cleared a 700 x 28 with no fenders, which I found limiting.  I prefer
riding with fenders and wider tires for varied surfaces (I even put fenders
on my new carbon cross bike -- it has fender bosses).

So, I:
converted the Riv Road to 650b x 38 with long reach brakes
added full fenders
added a rear rack (Nitto R20 Mt Campee)
added a front rack (Nitto F20 Mt Campee or Nitto M1, with Tubus clamps and
fork adapters to fit)
mounted a Brooks Flyer Special
built up a dynamo wheelset (for the Luxos U headlight and Topline brake
light)
and added all kinds of accessories (frame pump, wired computer, headset
spacer bell, phone mount, etc).

Rivs can be quite versatile, if you are.

I already have an excellent steel go-fast bike, so the Riv fits better in
my stable as a light tourer.

I put tons of miles in on the Riv for commuting, social rides, tours, etc.

In comparison, I almost never ride my skinny-tired gofast bike, and it's
for sale.


Tim

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Kieran J  wrote:

> Agreed. I do wonder if my Ram has a future as a touring bike. The fork
> would need more attachment points - or maybe a different fork.
>
> It's quite overbuilt in its present config as a stripped-down, go-fast
> type machine - especially for a lanky dude like me. I wouldn't mind
> replacing it with a XXL Boulder Road Sport or something similar. Something
> lighter, faster and more spring-y. I'll add it to the list!
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:44:23 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>  It would have made a wonderful touring bike, I guess. And it was beefier
>> than it needed to be; compared to the very light Motobecane, say.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Patrick Moore]

Those are for 2" tires, alas.

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> ok, saw that - Vittora hasn't made them for years.  But here, Michelin
> from UK
>
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> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:26:48 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone make latex tubes for 650C or 26" X 1"-1.4" tires? I'm not
>> particular as to few mm and happily use narrow 650C tubes in 35 mm tires.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:
>>
>>> If you don't mind pumping at least every week, Challenge cross latex
>>> tubes can open your eyes even further.  They make a noticeable difference
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Ron Mc]

ok, saw that - Vittora hasn't made them for years.  But here, Michelin from 
UK  
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/Michelin-Aircomp-Latex-Tube-26x19-220-Presta-40mm-493346/MICHTUBM240?utm_campaign=Googlebase_medium=organic_source=Googlebase=US=CjwKEAjw-IOwBRD1wrTC27fSjFISJABUDZ17NnwrTDxsYQmPdtCKEkutiY23HOOyxb4bfjBJaJIY0BoCogDw_wcB=aw.ds

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:26:48 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Does anyone make latex tubes for 650C or 26" X 1"-1.4" tires? I'm not 
> particular as to few mm and happily use narrow 650C tubes in 35 mm tires.
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Ron Mc  
> wrote:
>
>> If you don't mind pumping at least every week, Challenge cross latex 
>> tubes can open your eyes even further.  They make a noticeable difference 
>> in ride (and speed), though sometimes on a whoopteedoo will make you feel 
>> like a bouncing ball . I use Schwalbe for backup - I buy  tubes en masse 
>> from wiggle - load up a $50 cart to get free shipping and worry about tubes 
>> again next year.  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Shimano triple front derailleur 8s/9s

[Captain Conway Bennett]

The tiagra is the fd-4600.  Both are clamp on style.

Fair winds,

Captain Conway Bennett

> On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Tim Gavin  wrote:
> 
> Conway-
> Could you confirm the model of the Tiagra you have? Or, what year is the 
> Cross Check from?
> 
> I don't want another FD-4403; the spring tab broke on mine because it has a 
> design flaw.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 21, 2015, at 4:15 PM, Conway Bennett  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have a OE tiagra from a cross check or a sora OE from a caseroll.  I'd 
>> trade either for king cages.
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Bizarrely on topic: AL absorption through skin

[Anton Tutter]

Looks like aluminum to me, but the amount is probably so little, and 
absorption rates through skin so small, compared to other sources that you 
are probably ingesting or absorbing into your bloodstream via other routes 
(e.g., smoking), that it's probably of no consequence.

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On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> I have 1/4" solid oak platformes from my Bullseye pedals, just unsure 
> what/how to mount them on a pedal. Today I forgot and took off without 
> shoes. Great ride. I took this after some LCG up decomposed granite, but 
> some of the discoloration can still be seen. I'm posting because poking a 
> hornet's nest is fun to see what happens after. Grin. Enjoy! 
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
>
> 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Ron Mc]

If you don't mind pumping at least every week, Challenge cross latex tubes 
can open your eyes even further.  They make a noticeable difference in ride 
(and speed), though sometimes on a whoopteedoo will make you feel like a 
bouncing ball . I use Schwalbe for backup - I buy  tubes en masse from 
wiggle - load up a $50 cart to get free shipping and worry about tubes 
again next year.  

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 8:48:21 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
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> I've never had good experiences with Q tubes and Kenda tubes. I switched 
> to schwalbe and have never looked back since. Same rims, same tires.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Patrick Moore]

Does anyone make latex tubes for 650C or 26" X 1"-1.4" tires? I'm not
particular as to few mm and happily use narrow 650C tubes in 35 mm tires.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Ron Mc  wrote:

> If you don't mind pumping at least every week, Challenge cross latex tubes
> can open your eyes even further.  They make a noticeable difference in ride
> (and speed), though sometimes on a whoopteedoo will make you feel like a
> bouncing ball . I use Schwalbe for backup - I buy  tubes en masse from
> wiggle - load up a $50 cart to get free shipping and worry about tubes
> again next year.
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 8:48:21 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> I've never had good experiences with Q tubes and Kenda tubes. I switched
>> to schwalbe and have never looked back since. Same rims, same tires.
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Ron Mc]

Patrick, I pump them up high between rides to stretch them, and relax to 
ride pressure.  

On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 9:46:56 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> My Elk Passes are still 3 to 4 mm narrower than labeled; ~27.5 on 19 mm 
> rims, 28.5 on 21 mm rims. Not that I am really complaining; 28 mm is a good 
> size!
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Re: [RBW] Re: My New Roadeo

[Will]

Of course my impression is subjective. Completely so.

I was thinking about purchasing a Serotta a few years back. Even went and 
had a bike fitting. The Serotta frames were beautiful. I loved them. 

When I asked if I could have one built to take fenders, the shop guy looked 
like he had pooh on his shoes. Why would you want fenders? 

So objective/subjective is tricky business. The idea of fenders, and tires 
that aren't anorexic, seems rather normal and practical to me, but was 
completely foreign to the shop guy  (who was a seriously strong rider). 

In the end it all worked out. An Atlantis found me. 

I do wish the Roadeo took 38s. My son has a mid-80s 56 cm. Trek 613 that 
runs 700x36s. It's tight, but I really like his bike. I put an Ultegra 
level group on the frame. There's something about larger wheels that works. 
When they spin up you have momentum. Do I need cush... not so much, I'm 155 
pounds, so everything tire-wise over 32 works fine. Mostly, I like wider 
tires because they handle crappy roads better, 





On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 at 12:29:36 AM UTC-5, pb wrote:
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 7:08:40 PM UTC-7, Will wrote:
>>
>> This is so true. I test rode a 7 Ti with all the high end stuff ...  It 
>> was way less fun than my Atlantis with the old school drive train. 
>>
>
> H.  Could you define "fun"?  Seriously.  I'd posit that your 
> conclusion is utterly subjective, not objective.
>
> That comment comes from someone who owns a Merlin Agilis ti, a Schwinn 
> Paramount/Serotta ti, a Hampsten/Eriksen custom ti, a "Seven ti with all 
> the high end stuff" (used to be mine, but now built up for my wife), and 
> two Rivs, among a few others.  They all have their place, and they all have 
> their fun.  More fun?  Way less fun?  I can't agree.
>
> Actually, although for years I absolutely loved tough climbing rides on 
> it, and although it has a fantastic rear end, the Merlin is a bit too fast 
> in the front end for me nowadays, and therein lies subjectivity.
>
> ~pb
> (Yeah, I'm kind'a tempted by the Rodeo. I bet it would be fun.)
> 
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[RBW] Lowrider max weight on Rivendell road bikes?

[dougP]

My Atlantis with the stock fork handled 10-12 lbs per side. Typically this was 
part of a 4 bag load, with similar weight on the rear. Right now we are cc 
touring, and I have 2 bags on front w/less than 10 lbs per bag + Acorn @ 5-6 
lbs. No rear load. OTH, her Atlantis has heavier bags on rear rack, no front 
load, and she says it handles fine. Mine has 700 x 40 tires, and hers 26 x 1.5.

Dougp

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Re: [RBW] (New School) MUSA pants for sale

[John Bokman]

Sorry David, they’re sold.
On Sep 21, 2015, at 5:08 PM, David <23writ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm interested John. Let me know if they're still available and I'll follow 
> up tomorrow.
> Thanks. 
> David
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 21, 2015, at 7:48 PM, john  wrote:
> 
>> I've had these for a few years, I guess. I don't wear them because I prefer 
>> the Old School MUSA pants (the ones with the velcro closure at the ankle) 
>> which I wear more than any pants I own. 
>> 
>> These New School pants (zipper at the ankle) are in terrific shape, no 
>> blemishes of any kind, it's just that I never wear them. Maybe someone out 
>> there likes the New School better than me?
>> 
>> Sized Medium, but I'd only recommend them to someone who has thin legs, like 
>> me. They aren't as roomy as the Old School pants, in my estimation.
>> 
>> $25 shipped?
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Jon Doyle]

The Switchbacks measure 48mm on my Veloctiy A23 and Synergy rims. That's 
after 3 weeks, 30psi, and a 200 or so miles.

On Monday, September 21, 2015 at 9:37:44 PM UTC-4, Zach Duval wrote:
>
> Has anyone mounted these tires? These seem to be dream tires for my 
> Hillborne, but I've not yet had a pair of Compass tires, and so I'd like 
> some clarification as to fit. I've read that they may grow 2-3mm after 
> settling in?
>
> Any info would be appreciated. Thanks!
>
> Zach
> Kalispell, MT
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[RBW] Re: Carless? How many miles per day do you ride?

[JohnS]

I live car-lite in an inner ring suburb, so I have convenient access to 
shopping centers (super market, Target) and a down town. Many of my 
destinations are within two or three miles, so the miles don't really add 
up, it's more the number of trips that I can take by bike. On a typical day 
I'll make at least two bike trips if not three or four. Automobiles are 
less efficient and pollute more when the engine is cold, so there's more to 
gain by reducing the number of short trips. I still drive, but I try to 
limit my driving to longer trips or to destinations which are not bike 
friendly.
 
JohnS

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 1:17:18 PM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:

> On average would you say? 
> Urban, suburban, or rural?

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