[RBW] Re: What is the best place to buy Pro 5 Vis 52 outer rings?

[Peter Adler]

As were mine. I've gotten outer rings for as little as $10 apiece. It's 
worth checking eBay.co.uk and eBay.fr as well; searches on the US site 
don't always root out items on the foreign sites.

I'm pretty sure I have a 52T or two that I'm unlikely ever to use. Give me 
the day to check my stash.

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 7:22:53 AM UTC-7, Anton Tutter wrote:
>
> Not new, but you can sometimes get a great deal on used ones on the big 
> auction block. Most of my TA chainring sets were sourced that way
>

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Re: [RBW] C in October

[Minh]

Ah man, Pudge is coming out for this?  I don't think work will let me make 
this mid-week trip.  But sounds like fun!  

Tom, there's not a ton of traffic during the week at the campsites, but i'm 
not sure i would leave all your stuff there un-secure.  You could hide it 
in the woods?  

On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 10:15:13 PM UTC-4, Pondero wrote:
>
> Rusty, congrats on the first grandchild!  I spite of what you people might 
> think, my biggest motivation for traveling to DC is my first grandchild 
> born in February.  All my best to your family, and I hope to meet you 
> somehow.
>
> Pudge, great news!  We should have a nice little band of lugged steel 
> geeks assembled.
>
> Since I'm such a solo rider, I'll not know how to behave.  I am awkwardly 
> excited.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
>
>

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[RBW] Tires Wanted

[Eric Norris]

Does anybody have a set of Grand Bois or Compass tires in 700x32 or 7000x35 
that you'd like to sell? Used is OK, if they're not on their last legs.

PM me at campyonly...@me.com 

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[RBW] Re: Classic Bike Show + Swap Meet in Frederick MD @ Gravel & Grind, Sept 27th

[MartyG]

>
> Hey Roy, I have a space but not much stuff - you are welcome to join me. 
> Not sure where I'll be, but look for the guy with the Thule racks and a few 
> misc items. I'll have a small table and a folding chair. 
>

Marty 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bike Rally in Michigan 2015

[Montclair BobbyB]

Hey Marc:  Sending good vibes to you and all the CBR Michigan riders for a 
spectacular weekend of riding.  Be safe, post pics and enjoy the ride!!!   
Peace, 
Bobby 

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Re: [RBW] Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[cyclotourist]

Thanks for the info, Phil.

Edwin, the sleeves came in yesterday's mail, at some point I'll drill out
and put it on. That will probably void my warranty! :-)

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Re: [RBW] Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Edwin W]

If I get a flat with the Schwalbes + extra inner tube sleeve patch, I will 
order some up, and drill away.

Edwin

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> Thanks for the info, Phil. 
>
> Edwin, the sleeves came in yesterday's mail, at some point I'll drill out 
> and put it on. That will probably void my warranty! :-)
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Tires & Wald Basket-Lower Price!

[Mike OShea]

New price $50.00

Thanks,

Mike

On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 7:18:09 PM UTC-6, Mike OShea wrote:
>
> *FS: Tires & Wald Basket*
> Pair Schwalbe Marathon Green Guard HS 420 tires 700cx 38 less than 25 
> miles use. Included free with tires medium Wald Wire Basket. Like new 
> condition.
> $60.00 Free shipping CON US Paypal preferred. Please contact off list. 
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike
> Bozeman, MT.
>
> Picture link:
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OvTRgu7ObK_AGZgLazKvwXSSW-brC4GEOnGUSAXXQIc/edit?usp=sharing
>
>

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants?

[Julian]

That is indeed sad news -- but in the meanwhile take those hole-y MUSAs to 
your local alteration tailor -- I had a hole in a pair, did so, and now 
they're patched, can't tell at all from >3 ft away, and it was only $5! 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Just got back from a 10 day cycle camping trip around Glacier NP where my 
> MUSA pants performed wonderfully.  That is until I managed to burn a hole 
> in one of them.  
>
> So I went to the RBW site figuring I would buy a new pair or two only to 
> see none there.
>
> Hoping this is a temporary.  I do not recall any recent Blug posts on 
> point.  Anyone know what's up?
>

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[RBW] FS: Parts

[Joe Bartoe]

Hi Everyone,

I have several parts from a build that I tore apart after only 300 miles or so. 
These parts are near new and show very little to no use. Here's a list:

TRP Brake Levers RRL SR Retro Silver (with gum hoods) - $60
Deore XT Med cage RD 9 speed (plays nice with 10s shifters)- $60
Dura Ace 10s barend shifters (incl. cable housing, new cables, cable stops for 
downtube brazeons) - $50
Cinelli A1 Quill Stem (110mm) - $30
Nitto Dream Bar (46cm; light scratches on center sleeve) -$30

I also have:

Easton EA50 Monkey Bar (new, take off from mtn bike, 31.8 center section) - $25

Prices include shipping.

Joe

Joe Bartoe
Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone used this Look-to-SPD adaptor? Are they any good? Do the cleats hold up well?

[tarik saleh]

Patrick,

they look like them for sure. I would say almost all  current (last 5
years) welgo spd clone pedals  take shimano cleats no problem. I would say
most modern shimano pedals usually take modern welgo spd clone  cleats. The
ones that don't fit the most category are the ones to watch out for.  The
usual failure mode is you can't get out of the pedal with the welgo cleat
in the shimano pedal  This is not nearly the issue that it used to be, but
I have not tried all combinations.

personally I would not run Welgo cleats in shimano pedals based on some
crappy interfaces in the last 10 years.  I run shimano cleats in my welgo
wamd10 bmx/spd pedals with zero problems for the last decade.  But try it
carefully and repeatedly before you mix and match.


Have fun

Tarik

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Wait a minute: the Wellgo special spd cleats look much like the Shimano SH
> 71 cleats. Yes? No?
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Peter Adler  wrote:
>
>> Customer reviews of SPD to Crank Brothers isn't really a fair comparison.
>> Shimano-style SPD mountain pedals are used by orders of magnitude more
>> riders than Crank Brothers, so it's logical that SPD would have more
>> advocates. In courts of public opinion, the majority opinion usually wins,
>> even if it's silly.
>>
>> The two different Look adapter sets (Wellgo RC8
>> , Crank Brothers
>> 3-hole cleat )
>> include both 3-hole adapters and cleats, but they cleat to entirely
>> different pedals. You choose the adapter system to mate to your preferred
>> pedals. The Crank Brothers adapters can fit SPD cleats, but the Wellgo SPD
>> adapters don't look like they'll accept Crank Brothers cleats - or Time
>> ATAC cleats, or Speedplay cleats, or Bebop cleats, all of which have larger
>> bases than SPD. The Wellgo adapters look like they're molded to fit SPD
>> adapters, and nothing else. Actually, it looks like they've disassembled
>> the regular Shimano SPD cleat into two parts (the brass horizontal bar and
>> the underlying silver top/bottom lobes). If that's true, then that's
>> super-awful; it means that you won't be able to buy regular SPD replacement
>> clets, but you'll have to buy special weirdo cleats from Wellgo - which
>> will be available only for as long as Wellgo chooses to make them
>> available. Ecch.
>>
>> I'd really like to be wrong about that, if only because forcing people to
>> buy replacement parts from a single manufacturer is a generally bad thing.
>> In Wellgo's case, it would be a case of spending extra money to lock people
>> into the replacement chain; Wellgo already makes standard SPD cleats
>> (98A) , so the
>> expense of making an nearly-identical cleat seems pretty wasteful.
>>
>> The Crank Brothers adapters are a sort of nylon. I've been a CB rider for
>> years, and I hoard the discontinued Quattro road pedals (for which the
>> 3-hole Look adapters were originally designed). Since CB uses the same
>> cleat for both mountain and road pedals, I normally ride the Quattro pedals
>> on my daily rider with mountain shoes, just because they're easier for
>> walking around. I've got a set of road shoes with adapter-ized cleats, but
>> they don't get a lot of use; like other bulky road cleats (Look, Time,
>> SPD-SL), I wouldn't want to duck-walk around in them, for fear of slipping
>> and breaking my butt-bone.
>>
>> From the Amazon photo, the Wellgo adapters look to be metal, but they
>> don't say. Wellgo is a Taiwanese OEM company, and their English site has no
>> information about the RC8 at all, aside from the image. Obviously, if
>> they're metal, they'll last longer; but who knows?
>>
>> If what you need is a 3-hole shoe-to-2-hole cleat adapter *without* the
>> cleat, Sidi has one:
>>
>>
>> http://www.excelsports.com/main.asp?page=8=SPD+Adapter+Plate=SIDI=5=7
>>
>> I don't think this is really a "which adapter is better?" question; I
>> think this is really a "which cleated pedal system is better?" question.
>> That's a very individual question, which is hard to answer except by direct
>> experiment. My own first attempt with cleated pedals was with the
>> double-sided platform+SPD system that (if memory recalls) was from Wellgo;
>> they were cheapies from Nashbar about seven years back. I could never get
>> used to them; I never mastered the technique of cleating in and out. I'd
>> think I was cleated in and then my leg would fly out; I'd think I was
>> cleated out, and I'd fall down with the bike on top of me.
>>
>> Crank Brothers were comparatively easy for me; cleating in and out was a
>> breeze. I now ride CB (older Candys and discontinued Quattros) on all my
>> cleated bikes. I like the little bit of float they give me; I like the
>> adjustable disconnect angle; I like the fact that I can use 

RE: [RBW] Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

My wife set up half of our basement as a bike workshop for me – Christmas gift. 
 It's a great place to build/tinker/etc.  She had GarageTek storage wall cover 
installed on three full walls, which supports all kinds of modular storage 
pieces.  I use a variety of their storage units, but the most useful are shelf 
brackets/shelves, on which I place Rubbermaid plastic storage containers in 
several sizes.  The shop also has modular grease-resistant and slightly padded 
floor "tiles" installed.  Bought at BJ's, I think, and cut with a knife to fit 
at the edges.  I love this flooring – if an area gets damaged, you just pull up 
that 16 or 18 inch square piece and install a new one, which costs a couple of 
bucks (I have an extra half dozen pieces squirreled away) and takes about 30 
seconds.

She also ceded to me a bar with stools and a wash-up sink, where I clean old 
parts and build wheels.  There's even a bathroom down there!

Here's a pic that shows two sides of the shop, one where I have GarageTek bike 
holder brackets and long holders on which I store tires and fenders, and the 
other (the back wall) which has GarageTek small piece bins, in which I store 
various size bolts, nuts, washers, fender and other hardware, etc.  You can 
sort of see how the storage units slot into the GarageTek modular wall 
covering.  Very flexible – I like it a lot:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/20666113463

And here's a pic that shows the third wall, where the shelf units are installed 
with the plastic Rubbermaid containers, in which I keep by category all sorts 
of parts and accessories:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/11052521934

That latter pic shows the line of demarcation between my half of the basement 
and my wife's half – there's a pretty stark difference in the degree of clutter 
(or chaos, depending on your point of view) between the two.

This final pic shows the difference, as well as the parts-cleaning and 
wheelbuilding bar (you can see the Park wheelbuilding stand on the bar in the 
right background), and my freestanding wooden bench (with two vices), which is 
a really useful place to work:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/37542512@N04/11052436255/in/photostream/

I feel lucky every day to have such a nice shop.






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To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces



for the first time in my life, i am moving to a place with a garage. 1.5ish car 
size, stand alone, all wood. i have been gifted the use of it by my spouse, who 
just asks that we keep camping stuff and luggage up in the rafters.  im very 
excited, but also in need of some ideas and inspiration for how to make the 
space great. I figured that there must be some crossover of people who 
appreciate rivendells and people who appreciate a nicely designed and set up 
workshop.

it'll house 4-5 bikes and i want to set up part of the space for working on 
them. but also have an area for sitting with music, maybe a mini fridge, and a 
general making/tinkering area minus any large power tools.

i'd like to see pictures of your space first and foremost, but im also 
interested in...

-small space problem solving storage things
-bike storage techniques and specific brand recommendations
-general style points or clever add ons
-workbenches
-links to sites highlighting this sort of thing
-other stuff im forgetting.

in the past, all of the things that would fall into this category have been 
housed in bedrooms, closets, porches and cardboard boxes, so im flying blind.

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants?

[Matthew J]

> I checked the Riv site and saw they had very few sizes. 

I first checked earlier this week.  At that point and now (at least as the 
RBW site opens for me) it is not a matter of few sizes of the MUSA pants on 
the site, but no sizes.  Had RBW kept MUSA pants on the site but in only a 
few sizes, or even with a sold out note, I would have assumed, as you say, 
they will be restocked soon.

As it is, MUSA pants are nowhere to be found on the site.  I guess I could 
have called first and asked are you selling something that is not even on 
the site.  But it seemed to make sense to me anyway to ask here whether 
something was up before wasting their time.  

Glad I amused you.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MUSA Pants?

[Eric Daume]

So how do the new pants fit vs. the old? I thought the new pants were
baggier, but if they're tapered, maybe not.

Eric
who needs skinny and long

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Geoffrey  wrote:

> This site cracks me up sometimes.  While people were speculating about the
> Sterling being a Bilenky and complaining about the quality of the pictures,
> I was buying it for 200 bucks.  (still haven't gotten it but she's coming!)
> A couple of days ago, I checked the Riv site and saw they had very few
> sizes.  Instead of lamenting the fact and jumping to conclusions, I emailed
> Keisha who in turn said "I dunno" and brought Vince in to our conversation,
> this is what he said:
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
>
>
> We will be getting more in January. There are some extra stock of the
> pants around here. Please let me know what size you take and I can let you
> know if any are available.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vince
>
>
>
>
> then I inquired if they were going to be tapered like the second version
> (which I didn't like, much preferred the straighter legged ones) and this
> is what he said:
>
>
>
>
> The new ones we'll be getting will not have a taper. The only ones we have
> around here are tapered and have a zipper closure at the bottom. Let me
> know if you're interested in the tapered ones, otherwise we'll have more
> January.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vince
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>>
>> That is indeed sad news -- but in the meanwhile take those hole-y MUSAs
>> to your local alteration tailor -- I had a hole in a pair, did so, and now
>> they're patched, can't tell at all from >3 ft away, and it was only $5!
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>>>
>>> Just got back from a 10 day cycle camping trip around Glacier NP where
>>> my MUSA pants performed wonderfully.  That is until I managed to burn a
>>> hole in one of them.
>>>
>>> So I went to the RBW site figuring I would buy a new pair or two only to
>>> see none there.
>>>
>>> Hoping this is a temporary.  I do not recall any recent Blug posts on
>>> point.  Anyone know what's up?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Letting my Rivendell Romulus 59cm go...

[Reid]

How come I didn't see this back in July!?!?

David, if you still have the bike, where in the Bay Area are you? I'm 
interested.

Thanks.   Reid

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[RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Ron Mc]

Should be a 2-car garage, but it's 2 boats and 5 bikes


  
   


5 fishing bags and countless fly rod tubes

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants?

[Geoffrey]

This site cracks me up sometimes.  While people were speculating about the 
Sterling being a Bilenky and complaining about the quality of the pictures, 
I was buying it for 200 bucks.  (still haven't gotten it but she's coming!)
A couple of days ago, I checked the Riv site and saw they had very few 
sizes.  Instead of lamenting the fact and jumping to conclusions, I emailed 
Keisha who in turn said "I dunno" and brought Vince in to our conversation, 
this is what he said:

Hi Geoff,

 

We will be getting more in January. There are some extra stock of the pants 
around here. Please let me know what size you take and I can let you know 
if any are available.

 

Best regards,

Vince




then I inquired if they were going to be tapered like the second version 
(which I didn't like, much preferred the straighter legged ones) and this 
is what he said:




The new ones we'll be getting will not have a taper. The only ones we have 
around here are tapered and have a zipper closure at the bottom. Let me 
know if you're interested in the tapered ones, otherwise we'll have more 
January.

 

Best regards,

Vince

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>
> That is indeed sad news -- but in the meanwhile take those hole-y MUSAs to 
> your local alteration tailor -- I had a hole in a pair, did so, and now 
> they're patched, can't tell at all from >3 ft away, and it was only $5! 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> Just got back from a 10 day cycle camping trip around Glacier NP where my 
>> MUSA pants performed wonderfully.  That is until I managed to burn a hole 
>> in one of them.  
>>
>> So I went to the RBW site figuring I would buy a new pair or two only to 
>> see none there.
>>
>> Hoping this is a temporary.  I do not recall any recent Blug posts on 
>> point.  Anyone know what's up?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants?

[Geoffrey]

apologies, I was on a different "site" re: the Sterling / Bilenky :)  My 
"bad"


On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:26:20 PM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:
>
> This site cracks me up sometimes.  While people were speculating about the 
> Sterling being a Bilenky and complaining about the quality of the pictures, 
> I was buying it for 200 bucks.  (still haven't gotten it but she's coming!)
> A couple of days ago, I checked the Riv site and saw they had very few 
> sizes.  Instead of lamenting the fact and jumping to conclusions, I emailed 
> Keisha who in turn said "I dunno" and brought Vince in to our conversation, 
> this is what he said:
>
> Hi Geoff,
>
>  
>
> We will be getting more in January. There are some extra stock of the 
> pants around here. Please let me know what size you take and I can let you 
> know if any are available.
>
>  
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vince
>
>
>
>
> then I inquired if they were going to be tapered like the second version 
> (which I didn't like, much preferred the straighter legged ones) and this 
> is what he said:
>
>
>
>
> The new ones we'll be getting will not have a taper. The only ones we have 
> around here are tapered and have a zipper closure at the bottom. Let me 
> know if you're interested in the tapered ones, otherwise we'll have more 
> January.
>
>  
>
> Best regards,
>
> Vince
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>>
>> That is indeed sad news -- but in the meanwhile take those hole-y MUSAs 
>> to your local alteration tailor -- I had a hole in a pair, did so, and now 
>> they're patched, can't tell at all from >3 ft away, and it was only $5! 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>>>
>>> Just got back from a 10 day cycle camping trip around Glacier NP where 
>>> my MUSA pants performed wonderfully.  That is until I managed to burn a 
>>> hole in one of them.  
>>>
>>> So I went to the RBW site figuring I would buy a new pair or two only to 
>>> see none there.
>>>
>>> Hoping this is a temporary.  I do not recall any recent Blug posts on 
>>> point.  Anyone know what's up?
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants?

[Ron Mc]

thanks, saw that too late - I could use one pair of long pants, my favorite 
grays have a couple of holes

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:35:32 PM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:
>
> Ron, they have more of the original style pants coming in January.
>
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:33:01 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> I will be disappointed without them - that's all I wear to bike, shorts 
>> or knickers, and the long pants are for winter bumming and cool-weather 
>> kayaking.  Part of Rivendell's problem must be that they last so long. 
>>
>> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:27:15 PM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:
>>>
>>> apologies, I was on a different "site" re: the Sterling / Bilenky :)  My 
>>> "bad"
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:26:20 PM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:

 This site cracks me up sometimes.  While people were speculating about 
 the Sterling being a Bilenky and complaining about the quality of the 
 pictures, I was buying it for 200 bucks.  (still haven't gotten it but 
 she's coming!)
 A couple of days ago, I checked the Riv site and saw they had very few 
 sizes.  Instead of lamenting the fact and jumping to conclusions, I 
 emailed 
 Keisha who in turn said "I dunno" and brought Vince in to our 
 conversation, 
 this is what he said:

 Hi Geoff,

  

 We will be getting more in January. There are some extra stock of the 
 pants around here. Please let me know what size you take and I can let you 
 know if any are available.

  

 Best regards,

 Vince




 then I inquired if they were going to be tapered like the second 
 version (which I didn't like, much preferred the straighter legged ones) 
 and this is what he said:




 The new ones we'll be getting will not have a taper. The only ones we 
 have around here are tapered and have a zipper closure at the bottom. Let 
 me know if you're interested in the tapered ones, otherwise we'll have 
 more 
 January.

  

 Best regards,

 Vince

 On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>
> That is indeed sad news -- but in the meanwhile take those hole-y 
> MUSAs to your local alteration tailor -- I had a hole in a pair, did so, 
> and now they're patched, can't tell at all from >3 ft away, and it was 
> only 
> $5! 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>>
>> Just got back from a 10 day cycle camping trip around Glacier NP 
>> where my MUSA pants performed wonderfully.  That is until I managed to 
>> burn 
>> a hole in one of them.  
>>
>> So I went to the RBW site figuring I would buy a new pair or two only 
>> to see none there.
>>
>> Hoping this is a temporary.  I do not recall any recent Blug posts on 
>> point.  Anyone know what's up?
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Eunice Chang]

You might want to take a look at my late SO's bike shed/stable in this set
here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/albums/72157629538063710


-E.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> It's snug and it breaks down for multi use (it's my sanctuary away from
> the world, insulated against sound as much as possible, like the ground
> would be, hence I call it my Hobbit Hole).
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/17347200216/in/photolist-sqUWfU
> I couldn't find a photo with it in full bike mechanic stand mode, but the
> stand fits in nicely with enough room to work.
>
> No! Wait! I just found this one with the Piccolo in the stand:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16780805146/in/photolist-sqUWfU-ryS1JE
>
> Here are a few more shots of it not in bike mode:
> http://www.mindyourheadcoop.org/blog/?p=1890
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 11:11:49 AM UTC-6, drew wrote:
>>
>>
>> for the first time in my life, i am moving to a place with a garage.
>> 1.5ish car size, stand alone, all wood. i have been gifted the use of it by
>> my spouse, who just asks that we keep camping stuff and luggage up in the
>> rafters.  im very excited, but also in need of some ideas and inspiration
>> for how to make the space great. I figured that there must be some
>> crossover of people who appreciate rivendells and people who appreciate a
>> nicely designed and set up workshop.
>>
>> it'll house 4-5 bikes and i want to set up part of the space for working
>> on them. but also have an area for sitting with music, maybe a mini fridge,
>> and a general making/tinkering area minus any large power tools.
>>
>> i'd like to see pictures of your space first and foremost, but im also
>> interested in...
>>
>> -small space problem solving storage things
>> -bike storage techniques and specific brand recommendations
>> -general style points or clever add ons
>> -workbenches
>> -links to sites highlighting this sort of thing
>> -other stuff im forgetting.
>>
>> in the past, all of the things that would fall into this category have
>> been housed in bedrooms, closets, porches and cardboard boxes, so im flying
>> blind.
>>
>>
>> 
>>
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[RBW] FS: New(ish) Musa Pants $75 Medium

[mizrachi]

I think I wore these once.  If that.  

Green/Blue
Size Medium
Perfect Condition

$75 shipped or $70 pickup in Brooklyn



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RE: [RBW] FS: Parts (now updated)

[Joe Bartoe]

I have updated the list with another part and listed sold items:



Here's the list:

Chris King Sotto Voce NoThreadset (Brand new in Navy, 1 1/8") -$125
Chris King Headset Spacer Set (Navy, 1  1/8", 4 pieces in 3, 6, 12, & 25mm) - 
$25

TRP Brake Levers RRL SR Retro Silver (with gum hoods) - $60
Deore XT Med cage RD 9 speed (plays nice with 10s shifters)- $60
SOLD Dura Ace 10s barend shifters (incl. cable housing, new cables, cable stops 
for downtube brazeons) - $50 SOLD
Cinelli A1 Quill Stem (110mm) - $30
Nitto Dream Bar (46cm; light scratches on center sleeve) -$30

I also have:

Easton EA50 Monkey Bar (new, take off from mtn bike, 31.8 center section) - $25

Prices include shipping.

Joe

Joe Bartoe
Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
email: j...@synapticcycles.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Ron Mc]

that's trick Eunice, good job

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 2:30:42 PM UTC-5, Eunice Chang wrote:
>
> You might want to take a look at my late SO's bike shed/stable in this set 
> here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/albums/72157629538063710
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Kieran J]

Nice bike hut! Congrats on securing a nice spot to work with.

I'm living in a small apartment in the city. I look forward to the day I 
get a blank slate to design a bike spot like this. Some day .

KJ


On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:11:49 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
>
> for the first time in my life, i am moving to a place with a garage. 
> 1.5ish car size, stand alone, all wood. i have been gifted the use of it by 
> my spouse, who just asks that we keep camping stuff and luggage up in the 
> rafters.  im very excited, but also in need of some ideas and inspiration 
> for how to make the space great. I figured that there must be some 
> crossover of people who appreciate rivendells and people who appreciate a 
> nicely designed and set up workshop. 
>
> it'll house 4-5 bikes and i want to set up part of the space for working 
> on them. but also have an area for sitting with music, maybe a mini fridge, 
> and a general making/tinkering area minus any large power tools. 
>
> i'd like to see pictures of your space first and foremost, but im also 
> interested in...
>
> -small space problem solving storage things
> -bike storage techniques and specific brand recommendations
> -general style points or clever add ons
> -workbenches
> -links to sites highlighting this sort of thing
> -other stuff im forgetting.
>
> in the past, all of the things that would fall into this category have 
> been housed in bedrooms, closets, porches and cardboard boxes, so im flying 
> blind.
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Deacon Patrick]

It's snug and it breaks down for multi use (it's my sanctuary away from the 
world, insulated against sound as much as possible, like the ground would 
be, hence I call it my Hobbit Hole).

https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/17347200216/in/photolist-sqUWfU
I couldn't find a photo with it in full bike mechanic stand mode, but the 
stand fits in nicely with enough room to work.

No! Wait! I just found this one with the Piccolo in the stand:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16780805146/in/photolist-sqUWfU-ryS1JE

Here are a few more shots of it not in bike mode:
http://www.mindyourheadcoop.org/blog/?p=1890

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 11:11:49 AM UTC-6, drew wrote:
>
>
> for the first time in my life, i am moving to a place with a garage. 
> 1.5ish car size, stand alone, all wood. i have been gifted the use of it by 
> my spouse, who just asks that we keep camping stuff and luggage up in the 
> rafters.  im very excited, but also in need of some ideas and inspiration 
> for how to make the space great. I figured that there must be some 
> crossover of people who appreciate rivendells and people who appreciate a 
> nicely designed and set up workshop. 
>
> it'll house 4-5 bikes and i want to set up part of the space for working 
> on them. but also have an area for sitting with music, maybe a mini fridge, 
> and a general making/tinkering area minus any large power tools. 
>
> i'd like to see pictures of your space first and foremost, but im also 
> interested in...
>
> -small space problem solving storage things
> -bike storage techniques and specific brand recommendations
> -general style points or clever add ons
> -workbenches
> -links to sites highlighting this sort of thing
> -other stuff im forgetting.
>
> in the past, all of the things that would fall into this category have 
> been housed in bedrooms, closets, porches and cardboard boxes, so im flying 
> blind.
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants?

[Ron Mc]

I will be disappointed without them - that's all I wear to bike, shorts or 
knickers, and the long pants are for winter bumming and cool-weather 
kayaking.  Part of Rivendell's problem must be that they last so long. 

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:27:15 PM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:
>
> apologies, I was on a different "site" re: the Sterling / Bilenky :)  My 
> "bad"
>
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:26:20 PM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:
>>
>> This site cracks me up sometimes.  While people were speculating about 
>> the Sterling being a Bilenky and complaining about the quality of the 
>> pictures, I was buying it for 200 bucks.  (still haven't gotten it but 
>> she's coming!)
>> A couple of days ago, I checked the Riv site and saw they had very few 
>> sizes.  Instead of lamenting the fact and jumping to conclusions, I emailed 
>> Keisha who in turn said "I dunno" and brought Vince in to our conversation, 
>> this is what he said:
>>
>> Hi Geoff,
>>
>>  
>>
>> We will be getting more in January. There are some extra stock of the 
>> pants around here. Please let me know what size you take and I can let you 
>> know if any are available.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Vince
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> then I inquired if they were going to be tapered like the second version 
>> (which I didn't like, much preferred the straighter legged ones) and this 
>> is what he said:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The new ones we'll be getting will not have a taper. The only ones we 
>> have around here are tapered and have a zipper closure at the bottom. Let 
>> me know if you're interested in the tapered ones, otherwise we'll have more 
>> January.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-5, Julian wrote:
>>>
>>> That is indeed sad news -- but in the meanwhile take those hole-y MUSAs 
>>> to your local alteration tailor -- I had a hole in a pair, did so, and now 
>>> they're patched, can't tell at all from >3 ft away, and it was only $5! 
>>>
>>> Julian Westerhout
>>> Bloomington, IL 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:

 Just got back from a 10 day cycle camping trip around Glacier NP where 
 my MUSA pants performed wonderfully.  That is until I managed to burn a 
 hole in one of them.  

 So I went to the RBW site figuring I would buy a new pair or two only 
 to see none there.

 Hoping this is a temporary.  I do not recall any recent Blug posts on 
 point.  Anyone know what's up?

>>>

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Pants?

[Geoffrey]

Ron, they have more of the original style pants coming in January.


On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:33:01 PM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I will be disappointed without them - that's all I wear to bike, shorts or 
> knickers, and the long pants are for winter bumming and cool-weather 
> kayaking.  Part of Rivendell's problem must be that they last so long. 
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:27:15 PM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:
>>
>> apologies, I was on a different "site" re: the Sterling / Bilenky :)  My 
>> "bad"
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 1:26:20 PM UTC-5, Geoffrey wrote:
>>>
>>> This site cracks me up sometimes.  While people were speculating about 
>>> the Sterling being a Bilenky and complaining about the quality of the 
>>> pictures, I was buying it for 200 bucks.  (still haven't gotten it but 
>>> she's coming!)
>>> A couple of days ago, I checked the Riv site and saw they had very few 
>>> sizes.  Instead of lamenting the fact and jumping to conclusions, I emailed 
>>> Keisha who in turn said "I dunno" and brought Vince in to our conversation, 
>>> this is what he said:
>>>
>>> Hi Geoff,
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> We will be getting more in January. There are some extra stock of the 
>>> pants around here. Please let me know what size you take and I can let you 
>>> know if any are available.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> then I inquired if they were going to be tapered like the second version 
>>> (which I didn't like, much preferred the straighter legged ones) and this 
>>> is what he said:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The new ones we'll be getting will not have a taper. The only ones we 
>>> have around here are tapered and have a zipper closure at the bottom. Let 
>>> me know if you're interested in the tapered ones, otherwise we'll have more 
>>> January.
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Vince
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-5, Julian wrote:

 That is indeed sad news -- but in the meanwhile take those hole-y MUSAs 
 to your local alteration tailor -- I had a hole in a pair, did so, and now 
 they're patched, can't tell at all from >3 ft away, and it was only $5! 

 Julian Westerhout
 Bloomington, IL 



 On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:30:22 AM UTC-5, Matthew J wrote:
>
> Just got back from a 10 day cycle camping trip around Glacier NP where 
> my MUSA pants performed wonderfully.  That is until I managed to burn a 
> hole in one of them.  
>
> So I went to the RBW site figuring I would buy a new pair or two only 
> to see none there.
>
> Hoping this is a temporary.  I do not recall any recent Blug posts on 
> point.  Anyone know what's up?
>


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[RBW] Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[drew]

for the first time in my life, i am moving to a place with a garage. 1.5ish 
car size, stand alone, all wood. i have been gifted the use of it by my 
spouse, who just asks that we keep camping stuff and luggage up in the 
rafters.  im very excited, but also in need of some ideas and inspiration 
for how to make the space great. I figured that there must be some 
crossover of people who appreciate rivendells and people who appreciate a 
nicely designed and set up workshop. 

it'll house 4-5 bikes and i want to set up part of the space for working on 
them. but also have an area for sitting with music, maybe a mini fridge, 
and a general making/tinkering area minus any large power tools. 

i'd like to see pictures of your space first and foremost, but im also 
interested in...

-small space problem solving storage things
-bike storage techniques and specific brand recommendations
-general style points or clever add ons
-workbenches
-links to sites highlighting this sort of thing
-other stuff im forgetting.

in the past, all of the things that would fall into this category have been 
housed in bedrooms, closets, porches and cardboard boxes, so im flying 
blind.



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[RBW] Re: Show me your Garage/Workshop/Cave/Storage Spaces

[Geoffrey]

I'll try to post a pic later.  I have a friend who's bike store is pretty 
small.  He was smart and has the bike stands coming down from the ceiling. 
 I'd do something similar if I could and have a t-handle with a spring 
loaded detent I could pull to remove if I didn't want it hanging from the 
ceiling. 


On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 12:11:49 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
>
>
> for the first time in my life, i am moving to a place with a garage. 
> 1.5ish car size, stand alone, all wood. i have been gifted the use of it by 
> my spouse, who just asks that we keep camping stuff and luggage up in the 
> rafters.  im very excited, but also in need of some ideas and inspiration 
> for how to make the space great. I figured that there must be some 
> crossover of people who appreciate rivendells and people who appreciate a 
> nicely designed and set up workshop. 
>
> it'll house 4-5 bikes and i want to set up part of the space for working 
> on them. but also have an area for sitting with music, maybe a mini fridge, 
> and a general making/tinkering area minus any large power tools. 
>
> i'd like to see pictures of your space first and foremost, but im also 
> interested in...
>
> -small space problem solving storage things
> -bike storage techniques and specific brand recommendations
> -general style points or clever add ons
> -workbenches
> -links to sites highlighting this sort of thing
> -other stuff im forgetting.
>
> in the past, all of the things that would fall into this category have 
> been housed in bedrooms, closets, porches and cardboard boxes, so im flying 
> blind.
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Letting my Rivendell Romulus 59cm go...

[colinthehippie]

Did no one jump on this?

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[RBW] Tires Wanted

[Lungimsam]

Sorry, no.
But I have 4 Hetres to sell. One set newish ~500 miles and clean sidewalls.
The other set older but tread good rainy sidewalls.

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[RBW] Tires Wanted

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Eric, 
I have one Compass Stampede Pass, 700x32, brand new, still in the bag. $40, 
plus shipping, if you want it. I've gone to the Barlow Pass, extra light. 

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[RBW] Re: What is the best place to buy Pro 5 Vis 52 outer rings?

[Patrick Moore]

Anton and Peter: thanks for the eBay reminder. Indeed, I did see a couple
of 52s for 20 pounds with ~ 10 lb shipping -- about $47 shipped, each.

I'll archive this thread. For the moment, I've decided to get the same
ratios -- 52 X 17/19 Dingle -- with the installed 46 and separate 15/17
cogs. I found a new 17 t for $13.78 shipped; 43% of local new + tax, so the
referral helped.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I know the usual places; does anyone have a secret source where they are
> cheap? Need not be single ring-type.
>
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: FS: Odds, Ends, Bars, Bends

[David Banzer]

*Apologies to the list for making this public, but I've received no 
responses to emails I've sent.*

Justin,
Any updates on the parts I bought from you? It's almost a month now since I 
sent payment and nothing has arrived. I've sent several emails and have got 
no response. Please let me know tracking info asap. Or please send a refund 
if package has not been sent.
David


On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:27:51 PM UTC-5, Justin August wrote:
>
> Hi friends-
>
> Clearing my smallish parts stash for funds for previously mentioned 
> upcoming nuptials. Please make offers. Preference is given to local pickups.
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> 
> All prices are before shipping. Combine to save! 
> 
> From L to R, top to bottom. 
> 
> Bagman Expedition, $35
> VO Front Stabilizer, $10
> VO Water Bottle cage, $10
> King Kage Toe Kages (no hardware), $25
> Nitto Noodle 46cm, $50
> Nitto Technomic, 25.4 clamp, 13cm extension, $40
> VO Ugliest Stem alive, freakishly short, $10
> PDW Bar-ista, $10
> Ergon Grips, $25
> Bosco Bars 55cm (second try with them, I've learned my lesson), $50
> VO 1" decaleur, $25
> Lezyne Mini-pump, $25
> Pair of Red Hetres, bought used, dirty but lots of life left, $60
> Surly 3/32" cog 18t + lockring, $40
> Nitto Promenade with some rise, think narrower Boscos, $50
> Weird little rack, $25
> VO Porteur Bars, take bar end shifters and road brakes, NOT MTN levers, $25
> Greenfield kickstand, no plate/bolt, $free for shipping
> SOMA Layback post, 27.2, $25
> Shimano levers, $25
> Salsa 130bcd 3/32 45tooth MUSA chainring, $25
> Random bits:
> One city bike lever
> Tektro long reach brakes, missing hardware to clamp cable
> Suntour 7speed accushift/friction barcon
> random brake shoes
> Black rear brake hanger
> All $free
>
> 
>
> 
> Novara Rain Pants, Size M. 
> 
> Never used. 
> $35 + shipping from 94606 
> 
>
> 
>
> 
> Marmot Dri-Clime Cycling Jacket. 
> 
> Size L. 
> Light use. 
> $50 + shipping from 94606 
> 
>
>
> 
>
> 
> Showers Pass Hi-Viz yellow jacket. 
> 
> Size L. 
> Used 1-2 times only. Sat in storage for 3 years. Has smudges from this. 
> Click around on Flickr for pics. 
> 
>   
> $120 + shipping from 94606 
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Classic Bike Show + Swap Meet in Frederick MD @ Gravel & Grind, Sept 27th

[Gravel & Grind Espresso + Bikes]

Hey folks,  we’re doing this swap rain or shine.  If you are displaying 
stuff and have an EZ up, bring it, if you don’t have one, no worries, we’ll 
stick you inside the shop.

The ride after the swap won’t happen if its pouring, but if its lightly 
raining it’s on, or just wet out.



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>
>
> Hey gang,   
>
>
> We’re holding a low key bike swap and classic bike show at Gravel & Grind 
> (Riv’s newest east coast dealer) at the end of September.  Here’s the gist:
>
>
> *What: *Classic Bike Show and Bike Swap + Gravel & Grind yard sale with 
> tons (25+) of old frames and incomplete bikes, new and barely used parts 
> (Brooks, VO, Nitto, and way more)
>
> *Where: *Gravel & Grind @ 124 S. Carroll St, Frederick MD 21701
>
> *How Much?* Attendance is free, but if you want to sell a bike, show up 
> with 5 bucks. If you want to get a space to sell goods, get in touch with 
> us soon, and for 10 bucks you get a 10’x6’ space. No tables or anything, 
> you are on your own there.  Ditto on bike displays.  Bring your own bike 
> holder thing.  If you want to display a cool classically inspired bike, 
> that’s 
> free.  But bring something to display it with. 
>
>
> *When:* Swap and Show 9-3 on Sept 27th. If you are displaying stuff, 
> please be at the shop at 8. Group casual town ride at 4.30pm, after the 
> swap.  
>
>
> *Contact:* gravelandgrind (at) gmail.com to reserve a space.  
>
>
> *Other stuff*:  We’re gunna do a casual city ride post swap, at around 
> 4.30.  Bring a suitable bike.
>
>
> More info:   
> https://www.facebook.com/events/519002968261967/   
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Has anyone used this Look-to-SPD adaptor? Are they any good? Do the cleats hold up well?

[Patrick Moore]

Good tip about Wellgo cleats in Shimano pedals. I'll have to check more
closely about the SH 71s.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:52 AM, tarik saleh  wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> they look like them for sure. I would say almost all  current (last 5
> years) welgo spd clone pedals  take shimano cleats no problem. I would say
> most modern shimano pedals usually take modern welgo spd clone  cleats. The
> ones that don't fit the most category are the ones to watch out for.  The
> usual failure mode is you can't get out of the pedal with the welgo cleat
> in the shimano pedal  This is not nearly the issue that it used to be, but
> I have not tried all combinations.
>
> personally I would not run Welgo cleats in shimano pedals based on some
> crappy interfaces in the last 10 years.  I run shimano cleats in my welgo
> wamd10 bmx/spd pedals with zero problems for the last decade.  But try it
> carefully and repeatedly before you mix and match.
>
>
> Have fun
>
> Tarik
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Wait a minute: the Wellgo special spd cleats look much like the Shimano
>> SH 71 cleats. Yes? No?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Peter Adler 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Customer reviews of SPD to Crank Brothers isn't really a fair
>>> comparison. Shimano-style SPD mountain pedals are used by orders of
>>> magnitude more riders than Crank Brothers, so it's logical that SPD would
>>> have more advocates. In courts of public opinion, the majority opinion
>>> usually wins, even if it's silly.
>>>
>>> The two different Look adapter sets (Wellgo RC8
>>> , Crank Brothers
>>> 3-hole cleat )
>>> include both 3-hole adapters and cleats, but they cleat to entirely
>>> different pedals. You choose the adapter system to mate to your preferred
>>> pedals. The Crank Brothers adapters can fit SPD cleats, but the Wellgo SPD
>>> adapters don't look like they'll accept Crank Brothers cleats - or Time
>>> ATAC cleats, or Speedplay cleats, or Bebop cleats, all of which have larger
>>> bases than SPD. The Wellgo adapters look like they're molded to fit SPD
>>> adapters, and nothing else. Actually, it looks like they've disassembled
>>> the regular Shimano SPD cleat into two parts (the brass horizontal bar and
>>> the underlying silver top/bottom lobes). If that's true, then that's
>>> super-awful; it means that you won't be able to buy regular SPD replacement
>>> clets, but you'll have to buy special weirdo cleats from Wellgo - which
>>> will be available only for as long as Wellgo chooses to make them
>>> available. Ecch.
>>>
>>> I'd really like to be wrong about that, if only because forcing people
>>> to buy replacement parts from a single manufacturer is a generally bad
>>> thing. In Wellgo's case, it would be a case of spending extra money to lock
>>> people into the replacement chain; Wellgo already makes standard SPD
>>> cleats (98A) , so
>>> the expense of making an nearly-identical cleat seems pretty wasteful.
>>>
>>> The Crank Brothers adapters are a sort of nylon. I've been a CB rider
>>> for years, and I hoard the discontinued Quattro road pedals (for which the
>>> 3-hole Look adapters were originally designed). Since CB uses the same
>>> cleat for both mountain and road pedals, I normally ride the Quattro pedals
>>> on my daily rider with mountain shoes, just because they're easier for
>>> walking around. I've got a set of road shoes with adapter-ized cleats, but
>>> they don't get a lot of use; like other bulky road cleats (Look, Time,
>>> SPD-SL), I wouldn't want to duck-walk around in them, for fear of slipping
>>> and breaking my butt-bone.
>>>
>>> From the Amazon photo, the Wellgo adapters look to be metal, but they
>>> don't say. Wellgo is a Taiwanese OEM company, and their English site has no
>>> information about the RC8 at all, aside from the image. Obviously, if
>>> they're metal, they'll last longer; but who knows?
>>>
>>> If what you need is a 3-hole shoe-to-2-hole cleat adapter *without* the
>>> cleat, Sidi has one:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.excelsports.com/main.asp?page=8=SPD+Adapter+Plate=SIDI=5=7
>>>
>>> I don't think this is really a "which adapter is better?" question; I
>>> think this is really a "which cleated pedal system is better?" question.
>>> That's a very individual question, which is hard to answer except by direct
>>> experiment. My own first attempt with cleated pedals was with the
>>> double-sided platform+SPD system that (if memory recalls) was from Wellgo;
>>> they were cheapies from Nashbar about seven years back. I could never get
>>> used to them; I never mastered the technique of cleating in and out. I'd
>>> think I was cleated in and then my leg would fly out; I'd think I was
>>> cleated out, and I'd fall down with the bike on top of me.
>>>
>>> 

[RBW] Re: Classic Bike Show + Swap Meet in Frederick MD @ Gravel & Grind, Sept 27th

[islaysteve]

I'm looking forward to this event and plan be there in the morning, 
probably late morning.  Will not be selling or showing a bike, but looking 
forward to seeing the store and meeting folks.  Is anyone selling a bag? 
 I'm in the market for something like a Carradice Barley.  Advance notice 
wouldn't hurt, right?  See you there,
Steve


On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 6:38:24 PM UTC-4, Gravel & Grind Espresso 
+ Bikes wrote:
>
> Hey folks,  we’re doing this swap rain or shine.  If you are displaying 
> stuff and have an EZ up, bring it, if you don’t have one, no worries, we’ll 
> stick you inside the shop.
>
> The ride after the swap won’t happen if its pouring, but if its lightly 
> raining it’s on, or just wet out.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:38:24 AM UTC-4, Gravel & Grind 
> Espresso + Bikes wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hey gang,   
>>
>>
>> We’re holding a low key bike swap and classic bike show at Gravel & Grind 
>> (Riv’s newest east coast dealer) at the end of September.  Here’s the gist:
>>
>>
>> *What: *Classic Bike Show and Bike Swap + Gravel & Grind yard sale with 
>> tons (25+) of old frames and incomplete bikes, new and barely used parts 
>> (Brooks, VO, Nitto, and way more)
>>
>> *Where: *Gravel & Grind @ 124 S. Carroll St, Frederick MD 21701
>>
>> *How Much?* Attendance is free, but if you want to sell a bike, show up 
>> with 5 bucks. If you want to get a space to sell goods, get in touch with 
>> us soon, and for 10 bucks you get a 10’x6’ space. No tables or anything, 
>> you are on your own there.  Ditto on bike displays.  Bring your own bike 
>> holder thing.  If you want to display a cool classically inspired bike, 
>> that’s 
>> free.  But bring something to display it with. 
>>
>>
>> *When:* Swap and Show 9-3 on Sept 27th. If you are displaying stuff, 
>> please be at the shop at 8. Group casual town ride at 4.30pm, after the 
>> swap.  
>>
>>
>> *Contact:* gravelandgrind (at) gmail.com to reserve a space.  
>>
>>
>> *Other stuff*:  We’re gunna do a casual city ride post swap, at around 
>> 4.30.  Bring a suitable bike.
>>
>>
>> More info:   
>> https://www.facebook.com/events/519002968261967/   
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Tires Wanted

[Eric Norris]

Tired have been found. Thanks to all. 

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 9:21 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> 
> Does anybody have a set of Grand Bois or Compass tires in 700x32 or 7000x35 
> that you'd like to sell? Used is OK, if they're not on their last legs.
> 
> PM me at campyonly...@me.com 
> 
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[RBW] On Paleo Topic: Moccasin patterns, instructions, and making tips?

[Patrick Moore]

My loved and ancient pair of indoor moccasins are finally coming apart
after years of use, and rather than buy Minnetonkas, I'd like to try making
my own. Can anyone point me to online patterns and tips, such as how much
and what sort of leather to buy?

Mine may be Minnetonkas, but I got them new in Goodwill some 7-10 years ago.

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[RBW] FT: My 58cm Atlantis for your 56cm

[Dave @ Riv]

Anyone with a 56cm Atlantis that wants to size up? PM me!  - Dave

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[RBW] On Paleo Topic: Moccasin patterns, instructions, and making tips?

[Justin August]

Not making your own but check out Arrow Moccs. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: FS: Odds, Ends, Bars, Bends

[Justin August]

Apologies to all involved, thought I'll update David and all parties here.
Parts are in the mail to those who bought them. The mailroom/front desk 
misplaced my packages in the rush of the beginning of the school year. 
Annoying but we're a small school with limited resources. I refunded 
David's shipping plus 10%-ish.

I'll refund the rest if he wants even though I dropped it in the mail today 
after searching high and low for it in the building.

My fault - should have hand-done it at the post office. I've learned, yet 
again!

-J

On Friday, September 25, 2015 at 2:54:48 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> *Apologies to the list for making this public, but I've received no 
> responses to emails I've sent.*
>
> Justin,
> Any updates on the parts I bought from you? It's almost a month now since 
> I sent payment and nothing has arrived. I've sent several emails and have 
> got no response. Please let me know tracking info asap. Or please send a 
> refund if package has not been sent.
> David
>
>
> On Saturday, August 29, 2015 at 4:27:51 PM UTC-5, Justin August wrote:
>>
>> Hi friends-
>>
>> Clearing my smallish parts stash for funds for previously mentioned 
>> upcoming nuptials. Please make offers. Preference is given to local pickups.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> All prices are before shipping. Combine to save! 
>> 
>> From L to R, top to bottom. 
>> 
>> Bagman Expedition, $35
>> VO Front Stabilizer, $10
>> VO Water Bottle cage, $10
>> King Kage Toe Kages (no hardware), $25
>> Nitto Noodle 46cm, $50
>> Nitto Technomic, 25.4 clamp, 13cm extension, $40
>> VO Ugliest Stem alive, freakishly short, $10
>> PDW Bar-ista, $10
>> Ergon Grips, $25
>> Bosco Bars 55cm (second try with them, I've learned my lesson), $50
>> VO 1" decaleur, $25
>> Lezyne Mini-pump, $25
>> Pair of Red Hetres, bought used, dirty but lots of life left, $60
>> Surly 3/32" cog 18t + lockring, $40
>> Nitto Promenade with some rise, think narrower Boscos, $50
>> Weird little rack, $25
>> VO Porteur Bars, take bar end shifters and road brakes, NOT MTN levers, 
>> $25
>> Greenfield kickstand, no plate/bolt, $free for shipping
>> SOMA Layback post, 27.2, $25
>> Shimano levers, $25
>> Salsa 130bcd 3/32 45tooth MUSA chainring, $25
>> Random bits:
>> One city bike lever
>> Tektro long reach brakes, missing hardware to clamp cable
>> Suntour 7speed accushift/friction barcon
>> random brake shoes
>> Black rear brake hanger
>> All $free
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Novara Rain Pants, Size M. 
>> 
>> Never used. 
>> $35 + shipping from 94606 
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Marmot Dri-Clime Cycling Jacket. 
>> 
>> Size L. 
>> Light use. 
>> $50 + shipping from 94606 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> Showers Pass Hi-Viz yellow jacket. 
>> 
>> Size L. 
>> Used 1-2 times only. Sat in storage for 3 years. Has smudges from this. 
>> Click around on Flickr for pics. 
>> 
>>   
>> $120 + shipping from 94606 
>> 
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Phil Bickford]

>>>Hi Phil, same problem, causing tube failures? Can you explain the 
electrolysis issue?

Yes, well, no tube troubles at the time.  Just looked like a potential 
failure. I can't say it was electrolysis, thats's just the way I explained 
it to Velocity.  I've had some marine experience w for here a sacrificial 
piece of metal is mounted on the outside of the hull to keep dissimilar 
metals from eating each other they interact and destroy the pig instead.   
Sounds like Ron's got the info on metals, I don't know but to say the rim 
itself was dissolvingn at a rapid rate.

Watch out on the pricing on cyclocamping.com . 
 The same tube I bought from Compass for $8 is priced at $11.15.

Phil



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>
> FYI, Schwalbe tubes are on sale here: 
> http://www.cyclocamping.com/proddetail.asp?prod=10410313%2F10426343 
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:50 AM, cyclotourist  > wrote:
>
>> I had both a piece of Volx as well as a bit of cut up tube on mine this 
>> last time. Didn't help... :-(
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Edwin W > > wrote:
>>
>>> I had an extra piece of velox rim tape on there. This time I took that 
>>> off and slid an extra piece of tube over the valve.
>>>
>>> I will test it out this weekend. Might consider a little duct tape, too.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:13:21 AM UTC-5, Doug Williams wrote:

 I have been very happy with my tubeless Babyshoe Pass tires. See my 
 post on this list. If you stick with tubes, try duct tape. You could 
 reinforce the rim hole or the valve stem. Remember...if you can't fix it, 
 duck it!

 Doug

 On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 at 8:11:21 PM UTC-7, 
 cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

> They're on my list!
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Edwin W  wrote:
>
>> Argj! Just got another valve base tear on THAT rim. Kenda tube. I 
>> got some schwalbes and was explaining the fix to my 9 year old son.
>> Me: I think the fix is these expensive tubes. See, they have 
>> reinforcement in that area.
>> Him: how much are they?
>> Me: expensive. 8 bucks.
>> Him: that doesn't sound like much. How much are the cheap ones?
>> Me: 5.
>> Him: sounds worth it.
>> Wisdom doesn't always come with age. We will see if they work!!
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Re: [RBW] Valve Stem eating Synergy Wheels

[Edwin W]

The more I think about this, the more I think it is a small variation in hole 
size. I'll bet that on the valve stem eating rims, the whole is slightly larger 
than typical, and the tube gets tweaked in there. I don't think my calipers are 
precise enough to tell a difference, but I'll look into it. 
Has anyone tried of or heard of a valve nut on the inside of the rim?
Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Classic Bike Show + Swap Meet in Frederick MD @ Gravel & Grind, Sept 27th

[DMG]

So, is anyone else considering a ride up from the DC area? I am planning on 
leaving around 7 for a lunchtime arrival 
-Dan

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RE: [RBW] Re: Compass Switchback Hills (650BX48)

[Tony DeFilippo]

Looks pretty sweet to me!  I like the fat smooth tires no fender look.  I've 
been curious about retro friction shifters.  I'll be interested in your take!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Country Bike Rally in Michigan 2015

[Marc Irwin]

Here is a link to the route if anybody wants to download it before driving 
to the start: http://www.mapmyride.com/routes/view/813742175

Marc

On Sunday, September 20, 2015 at 7:31:55 PM UTC-4, Marc Irwin wrote:
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>  It's less than a week away now, the long term weather forecast makes it 
> look like a perfect weekend for cycling and I expect about 10 from the 
> responses I have gotten.  We are looking forward to it and welcome any late 
> comers to join in if you are withing range.  We'll be meeting in the Day 
> Use are of Yankee Springs State Park between 9:30 and 10 on Sept. 26.
>
> Marc
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[RBW] FS: 26 x 2.1 Schwalbe Thunder Burt Tires - PAIR - $70 shipped.

[David Banzer]

FS: 26 x 2.1 Schwalbe Thunder Burt Tires - PAIR - $70 shipped.

Picked these up this past week on this list, tried them for a ride, and 
realized that Super Motos spoiled me for air volume. Thunder Burts are 
great but my bike has room for a 2.35" knobby, so I'm going to look for 
something larger than the TB.

$70 shipped for the pair.
Paypal Personal please.
Contact offlist if you can.
Thanks,
David

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[RBW] Re: What is the best place to buy Pro 5 Vis 52 outer rings?

[Anton Tutter]

Not new, but you can sometimes get a great deal on used ones on the big 
auction block. Most of my TA chainring sets were sourced that way.

Anton
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On Thursday, September 24, 2015 at 8:21:39 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I know the usual places; does anyone have a secret source where they are 
> cheap? Need not be single ring-type.
>
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