[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

[Joe Bernard]

They're half-lugged, half welded, have bendy seatstays, and a 
cartoonish-looking rear derailer with Big Wheel pulleys. They're 
*intentionally* dorky!

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:45:11 PM UTC-7, El Sapo wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run Clems 
>> and Clementines.  
>>
>
> Could they have made the bikes look any more dorky on the blog?
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[hsmitham]

I love my Atlantis! Did I say I love my Atlantis!! Hunq is cool but oh the 
Atlantis.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/pedalpusher61/21454529951/in/dateposted-public/

Can't wait to ride it this weekend.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:44:09 PM UTC-7, Çackalak wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.  
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized 
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of 
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>

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[RBW] Re: Tires for my Hunq

[Takashi]

I recently bought Continental Race King (Race Sport) 29x2.0.
I will write about them on another thread (tire test and impression thread) 
sometime, but I don't have time now.

To be brief, their tread pattern is more off-road-oriented than Thunder 
Burt, thus less smooth (but acceptable) on pavement.
They seem to roll well both on- and off-pavement.

Some on-line reviews say that they are vulnerable, some say durable.
I have yet to judge their durability.


Takashi


2015年10月8日木曜日 9時38分49秒 UTC+9 Daniel Jackson:
>
> I will ride 85% dirt roads, 15% paved with my Hunq in northern VT. No 
> singletrack with this machine. 
>
> The dirt roads up here I think are different than those that have 
> captivated the gravel grinding craze of late - here they are either hard 
> packed dirt, recently graded looser fine grained dirt with golf ball size 
> rocks, or straight up mud/ice mixture come winter. There really isn't any 
> of that finer grained gravel that people wax on about and for which 
> something like the Rat Trap was designed. 
>
> In winter, I run Schwalbe's Ice Spiker Pros, a tire I am firmly committed 
> to. 
>
> The rest of year, what tires should I run? Right now debating between 
> Thunder Burts (2.25) and Super Motos (2.35). 
>
> Thanks for the advice!
> D.   
>

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Re: [RBW] touring hub and brake lever recommendation

[Tim Gavin]

*Hub:*
If you're looking to buy new from your LBS, you'll be pretty limited by
what they stock.  Non-disc, 135 mm hubs are becoming more rare, especially
in silver.  They can probably order Velo Orange and anything else carried
in the QBP catalog.

I recently built up a rear wheel for my Riv using the Velo Orange Grand Cru
touring hub
,
but it was on sale for $110 (which made it very tempting).  It's a good hub
and very easy to dis-assemble without any tools.  It freewheels pretty
quietly--after I put a little grease on the pawls.  It's pretty, and
available in 130 mm OLD (which my Riv Road has.  128 mm, actually).

I haven't tried them, but the Rivendell Silver
 rear hub is very attractive and
$110.  Not bad, but also not available through your LBS.

MUSA would be nice.  So, I looked at the "boutique" hubs like White
Industries and Chris King, But, they were all reviewed as having very loud
freewheel action, which I hate.


*Brake Levers:*
I used the the RRL brake levers on Moustache bars.  They work well, and are
definitely attractive.

But, the RRL levers are fantastic on drop bars (best ergonomics I've used),
while the ergonomics of the brake levers seems less important on moustache
bars (because you mount the levers 90 degrees off).

I ended up taking the RRLs off my moustache bars and using non-aero Dia
Compe 204

levers.  The non-aero cable routing is much less convoluted on moustache
bars.

I've since changed the bike back to drops (Nitto B135) and the RRL levers,
because I prefer the positions available compared to moustaches.

Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:

> I've got an Atlantis set to hopefully arrive by the end of the month, so I
> have started to order parts.  I'm down to the rear hub and looking for
> recommendations.  I can find tons of reviews, but it is harder to find
> reputable reviews within the last year or two.  That said, I am curious
> what the group here thinks.  Clearly, Phil Wood hubs are fantastic, but
> they are also a bit more than I would like to spend.  I'm thinking of going
> somewhere in the $250 range for the rear hub.  (The front is a SON dynamo.)
>
> I'm also in the market for a pair of brake levers.  I was thinking about
> the Tektro RRL, but wonder if the offset lever will conflict with the Nitto
> moustache bars that I am leaning towards.
>
> Any recommendations for the two would be appreciated.  For those looking
> to sell, I apologize, but I am looking to buy new from a LBS that I would
> like to support.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Beecher
> Oswego, IL
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Will]

I have an Atlantis, and like Hugh, I love it. It does everything well. 
Either bike gets it done, of course, but Atlantis is well... Atlantis. An 
icon. 

One piece of advice... if you're going camping, go with Tubus racks and 
Ortlieb bags. Yeah, I know Riv promotes Nitto, and I have no beef with 
Nitto, but Tubus/Ortlieb is the best touring/hauling setup around. 

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 11:44:09 PM UTC-5, Çackalak wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.  
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized 
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of 
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>

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Re: [RBW] touring hub and brake lever recommendation

[Justin Schoop]

I love White Industries hubs. You get used to the sound, it also holds you back 
from coasting all the time which can be a good thing. As for break levers I 
would stick with the traditional shimano road brake levers that RIv stocks. 
Absolutely nothing wrong with them and they work great on mustache bars. 

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Re: [RBW] touring hub and brake lever recommendation

[Ryan Fleming]

Agreed...nothing wrong with the Tiagra levers; they work great with M-bars. 
I use these on my X0-1 with the very nice Shimano CX-70 cantis. The TRP 
RRLs are great with road bars (Noodle or what have you)...the ergonomics 
and function are fantastic  as Tim says

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 8:33:28 AM UTC-5, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
> I love White Industries hubs. You get used to the sound, it also holds you 
> back from coasting all the time which can be a good thing. As for break 
> levers I would stick with the traditional shimano road brake levers that 
> RIv stocks. Absolutely nothing wrong with them and they work great on 
> mustache bars. 

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Deacon Patrick]

Proceed with confidence. The only wrong choice is to not get one. Besides, 
you already know your answer. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 10:44:09 PM UTC-6, Çackalak wrote:
>
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[EGNolan]

WAIT FOR THE APPALOOSA! It's 1/2 way between the two & 1/2 the cost of 
either.

Best,
Eric


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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[shawn m.]

I have an 84cm PBH and ride a 54cm Hunq and a 56cm Atlantis. They both fit 
me perfectly, and I suspect the 58cm Atlantis would feel too big, more for 
TT length than standover. But, hey, a dirt drop or other short stem and 
maybe you're in business. I tour on the Hunq. It's all Nitto. I've used 
Tubus racks in the past and they work fine, too, but they just don't look 
right on a Rivendell to me. Many tours, many miles on the Nitto racks and 
no regrets.

Something to consider: How long is the wait for an Atlantis vs. a 
Hunqapillar? That can often be a factor!

Hard to go wrong either way, IMHO. Good luck.

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:44:09 PM UTC-7, Çackalak wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.  
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized 
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of 
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

['Jack' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It's a tough call, but either bike would work well for what you have 
planned. I have a Hunqapillar and an Atlantis but would give a slight nod 
to the Hunq for dirt roads.  

Are you sure a 58cm Atlantis will fit you? My PBH is 84.5cm and my Atlantis 
is 56cm. An old Atlantis brochure recommends a 56cm for PBH between 83 and 
85 and a 58cm for PBH 84.5 to 87.

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:44:09 AM UTC-4, Çackalak wrote:

> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.  
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized 
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

[sprocket67]

It seems like with the limited frame sizes the handlebar rise has to be out 
of proportion to fit a rider that might normally need a larger frame. If 
you usually ride a 56 you'd have to make the 52 work.

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:45:11 AM UTC-4, El Sapo wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run Clems 
>> and Clementines.  
>>
>
> Could they have made the bikes look any more dorky on the blog?
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for my Hunq

[Tim Gavin]

Super Motos are great tires.  They are very fast on the road and float well
in the dirt.

However, based on your dirt-biased riding, I'd recommend the Thunder Burt.
Its knobs (especially on the edges) will help you climb out of ruts that
the Super Moto may slide down into.

The Thunder Burt

is
lighter than the Super Moto

as well.


On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Takashi  wrote:

> I recently bought Continental Race King (Race Sport) 29x2.0.
> I will write about them on another thread (tire test and impression
> thread) sometime, but I don't have time now.
>
> To be brief, their tread pattern is more off-road-oriented than Thunder
> Burt, thus less smooth (but acceptable) on pavement.
> They seem to roll well both on- and off-pavement.
>
> Some on-line reviews say that they are vulnerable, some say durable.
> I have yet to judge their durability.
>
>
> Takashi
>
>
> 2015年10月8日木曜日 9時38分49秒 UTC+9 Daniel Jackson:
>
>> I will ride 85% dirt roads, 15% paved with my Hunq in northern VT. No
>> singletrack with this machine.
>>
>> The dirt roads up here I think are different than those that have
>> captivated the gravel grinding craze of late - here they are either hard
>> packed dirt, recently graded looser fine grained dirt with golf ball size
>> rocks, or straight up mud/ice mixture come winter. There really isn't any
>> of that finer grained gravel that people wax on about and for which
>> something like the Rat Trap was designed.
>>
>> In winter, I run Schwalbe's Ice Spiker Pros, a tire I am firmly committed
>> to.
>>
>> The rest of year, what tires should I run? Right now debating between
>> Thunder Burts (2.25) and Super Motos (2.35).
>>
>> Thanks for the advice!
>> D.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[iamkeith]

I was going to say what Eric just said.  FYI, this is a new model that 
they've been playing with for a while, but we just recently learned is 
conceived as a mid-point between the Hunq and Atlantis.  The other way its 
been described is as an updated Hillbourne, with longer stays, with room 
for MUCH bigger tires, and (presumably) the bottom bracket height adjusted 
accordingly.

The main thing I'd say though, is "Get whichever fits you best."   These 
are the two models I've always wanted, but I fall squarely between sizes in 
both cases.  You're lucky in that the 54 Hunq is probably a really good 
fit.  As Jack says, the 56 Atlantis is probably right too, but I'd 
understand if you didn't want the 26" tires for primarily off-road duties.  
(Though I think they're a huge PLUS if you were going to use it mostly ON 
the road.)

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:05:00 AM UTC-6, EGNolan wrote:

> WAIT FOR THE APPALOOSA! It's 1/2 way between the two & 1/2 the cost of 
> either.
>
> Best,
> Eric
>
>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Anne Paulson]

I've ridden from Washington state to Maine, and from Tecate to the
Canadian border, using Ortlieb panniers on Nitto racks. I'm sure Tubus
racks are fine, but I don't know a reason to recommend them over
Nitto.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 4:51 AM, Will  wrote:
> I have an Atlantis, and like Hugh, I love it. It does everything well.
> Either bike gets it done, of course, but Atlantis is well... Atlantis. An
> icon.
>
> One piece of advice... if you're going camping, go with Tubus racks and
> Ortlieb bags. Yeah, I know Riv promotes Nitto, and I have no beef with
> Nitto, but Tubus/Ortlieb is the best touring/hauling setup around.
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 11:44:09 PM UTC-5, Çackalak wrote:
>>
>> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that
>> is the case.
>>
>> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.
>> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized
>> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.
>>
>> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up
>> below:
>>
>> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
>> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
>> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved
>> roads only to get to dirt.
>> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a
>> proper cargo set up.
>>
>> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of
>> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>>
>> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so
>> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>
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Re: [RBW] touring hub and brake lever recommendation

[Jim Bronson]

Older Deore XT with cro-mo axles is a solid choice.  Reliable, polished
silver, easy to service.

The M780 Deore XT hub that I have has an aluminum axle, I would prefer the
cro-mo.  But on the other hand it cost $53 shipped and it's been a rock
solid reliable hub for me.  Besides the aluminum axle issue it's also matte
silver which is not so pretty.  Sometimes function wins over form though ;)

On Sun, Sep 27, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:

> I've got an Atlantis set to hopefully arrive by the end of the month, so I
> have started to order parts.  I'm down to the rear hub and looking for
> recommendations.  I can find tons of reviews, but it is harder to find
> reputable reviews within the last year or two.  That said, I am curious
> what the group here thinks.  Clearly, Phil Wood hubs are fantastic, but
> they are also a bit more than I would like to spend.  I'm thinking of going
> somewhere in the $250 range for the rear hub.  (The front is a SON dynamo.)
>
> I'm also in the market for a pair of brake levers.  I was thinking about
> the Tektro RRL, but wonder if the offset lever will conflict with the Nitto
> moustache bars that I am leaning towards.
>
> Any recommendations for the two would be appreciated.  For those looking
> to sell, I apologize, but I am looking to buy new from a LBS that I would
> like to support.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt Beecher
> Oswego, IL
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Tim Gavin]

Tubus racks are great, no argument there.
And Ortlieb panniers are definitely top-notch; they have THE BEST 
attachment systems and come with various sizes of hook inserts to match the 
rack tubing.

But Ortlieb bags work great with Nitto racks, too, in case you're 
wondering.  
I've used the following combiniations:
Nitto R20 Mt Campee rack (like Riv's Big Rear Nitto rack 32R, but simpler 
and cheaper) with Sport Packers and Back Rollers
Nitto F20 Mt Campee rack (front, with detachable lowrider frames) with 
Sport Packers
Nitto 34F Big Front rack with Sport Packers and Back Rollers.

Cheers,
Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 6:51:30 AM UTC-5, Will wrote:
>
> I have an Atlantis, and like Hugh, I love it. It does everything well. 
> Either bike gets it done, of course, but Atlantis is well... Atlantis. An 
> icon. 
>
> One piece of advice... if you're going camping, go with Tubus racks and 
> Ortlieb bags. Yeah, I know Riv promotes Nitto, and I have no beef with 
> Nitto, but Tubus/Ortlieb is the best touring/hauling setup around. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Jim D Massachusetts]

I have an 84 pbh and have a 54 Hunq. The fit is good except for a slightly 
long top tube with a dirt drop stem and noodles. Albatros bars would solve 
this I think. The ride is great. Long time ago I test rode an Atlantis. 
That was a 56 and the fit seemed good. I suspect that a 58 would have been 
too big for me. I think I saw that Grant has an 84+ pbh and I think he has 
a 56 Atlantis. Fit issues can vary with the individual. This is just a 
couple of more data points.

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:44:09 AM UTC-4, Çackalak wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.  
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized 
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of 
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>

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Re: [RBW] Fix broken connector on Luxos U?

[Eric Norris]

Anne:

I would take it to one of those places that fix small electronics (they’re 
popping up everywhere). Or, you could learn how to microsolder. Here’s a woman 
who did that and created a new career for herself:

https://ifixit.org/blog/6911/micro-soldering-mom/ 
 

--Eric Norris
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> On Oct 7, 2015, at 9:05 PM, Anne Paulson  wrote:
> 
> My bike got home from New Mexico just fine, except that the shop that
> packed up my bike didn't detach my Luxos U from the handlebars, and
> one of the little connectors, the tabs that connect the light to the
> dynamo wire, got broken off. Is there a way to fix this? I don't want
> to have to replace the whole expensive light just because a teeny
> piece of metal is broken. Is it possible to take the light apart and
> solder on a new connector?
> 
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson
> 
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride.
> 
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[RBW] Tall Riders Group

[Robert]

Hi Folks,
Just a heads-up, I have a bunch of cranksets coming on Ebay, seller rgz4ams, in 
sizes 175-200mm. 
Should suit this group!

Best Regards,
R Zeidler

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Atlantis. I bought mine in 98' or so. I have never loved a bike as much. Go 
for the Atlantis. Incredibly comfortable and also resilient when loaded. I 
will NEVER sell mine.

Claytonious Q

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[RBW] Re: Tires for my Hunq

[iamkeith]

>
>
>
You might check out Kenda Small Block 8, too.  The 26" versions have been 
my long-time favorite for the conditions you describe, and they now appear 
to offer a 2.1" 29er version.
 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Cunningham medical fund

[Philip Williamson]

Thanks for the heads-up. I put in a little, and I'll do more on my next 
paycheck. 
I'm also up to help build ramps, or whatever needs doing to get him back 
home.  

Philip
www.biketinker.com

On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 1:21:32 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> https://www.gofundme.com/w85tn3dg
>
> Charlie Cunningham suffered a head injury (among other injuries) in a bike 
> crash.  If you've ever felt the twang to thank Charlie for his visionary 
> contributions to cycling (particularly cycling off pavement), this is a 
> good opportunity to act on that twang.  
>
> thoughts, prayers, and a few dollars
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[drew]

85 pbh and a 54 hunq. we are in true, deep, comfortable love. albastache 
and albatross are perfect. drops are a bit of a stretch for me. im sure the 
atlantis is equally lovable. can't go wrong.  


the pr on the appaloosa is a bit confusing. for a long time, and from 
multiple riv people, it was sam with longer stays/more clearance and 
canti's, now it's a mix of atlantis and hunq (an already very overlappy set 
of models)?

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[RBW] Re: Fix broken connector on Luxos U?

[DMG]

Anne, I posted about this very issue on iBob 
: 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/internet-bob/luxos$20repair/internet-bob/49zB6HHji0w/zvHrTCJILLEJ
 
. After much procrastination, I replaced the broken tab with a wire and 
snap connector and everything worked out fine, despite being really 
terrible with a soldering iron. Detaching the connector remnants from the 
circuit board was the only difficult part of the process.

-Dan, DC

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Without ever having ridden either, my dream bike is an older 56cm Atlantis 
with the 44cm chainstays.  My understanding is that they are longer now and 
I prefer a shorter wheelbase, just for the type of riding I do.  I know 
from experience, that a 57cm top-tube, which I believe the 56 Atlantis has, 
 works very well for me.  I'm afraid the new Appaloosa will be designed 
with a really long toptube for pullback handlebars.  I can handle up to 
about 60cm but much more than that and I would be too stretched out.  



On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 11:44:09 PM UTC-5, Çackalak wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.  
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized 
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of 
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Kevin Lindsey]

Hunqapillar.  
I've had my Hunq for about six months now, and it's hands down my favorite 
bike.  With plenty of room for big tires (I run Schwalbe 55 mm), it's silky 
smooth on either pavement or dirt road, is built like a tank, but rides 
like an Atlantis.  Plus, you get the coolest headbadge going.

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:06:46 PM UTC-4, drew wrote:
>
> 85 pbh and a 54 hunq. we are in true, deep, comfortable love. albastache 
> and albatross are perfect. drops are a bit of a stretch for me. im sure the 
> atlantis is equally lovable. can't go wrong.  
>
>
> the pr on the appaloosa is a bit confusing. for a long time, and from 
> multiple riv people, it was sam with longer stays/more clearance and 
> canti's, now it's a mix of atlantis and hunq (an already very overlappy set 
> of models)?
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Tires for my Hunq

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Can't say enough good about the Burts. I took them off my Salsa for a bit, 
need to get them back on!

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 6:03:13 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Super Motos are great tires.  They are very fast on the road and float 
> well in the dirt.  
>
> However, based on your dirt-biased riding, I'd recommend the Thunder 
> Burt.  Its knobs (especially on the edges) will help you climb out of ruts 
> that the Super Moto may slide down into.
>
> The Thunder Burt 
> 
>  is 
> lighter than the Super Moto 
> 
>  
> as well.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:58 AM, Takashi  > wrote:
>
>> I recently bought Continental Race King (Race Sport) 29x2.0.
>> I will write about them on another thread (tire test and impression 
>> thread) sometime, but I don't have time now.
>>
>> To be brief, their tread pattern is more off-road-oriented than Thunder 
>> Burt, thus less smooth (but acceptable) on pavement.
>> They seem to roll well both on- and off-pavement.
>>
>> Some on-line reviews say that they are vulnerable, some say durable.
>> I have yet to judge their durability.
>>
>>
>> Takashi
>>
>>
>> 2015年10月8日木曜日 9時38分49秒 UTC+9 Daniel Jackson:
>>
>>> I will ride 85% dirt roads, 15% paved with my Hunq in northern VT. No 
>>> singletrack with this machine. 
>>>
>>> The dirt roads up here I think are different than those that have 
>>> captivated the gravel grinding craze of late - here they are either hard 
>>> packed dirt, recently graded looser fine grained dirt with golf ball size 
>>> rocks, or straight up mud/ice mixture come winter. There really isn't any 
>>> of that finer grained gravel that people wax on about and for which 
>>> something like the Rat Trap was designed. 
>>>
>>> In winter, I run Schwalbe's Ice Spiker Pros, a tire I am firmly 
>>> committed to. 
>>>
>>> The rest of year, what tires should I run? Right now debating between 
>>> Thunder Burts (2.25) and Super Motos (2.35). 
>>>
>>> Thanks for the advice!
>>> D.   
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

[Montclair BobbyB]

According to Peter White, "... if you have a bike like the Rivendell 
Atlantis and you won't be using fenders, you can just fit the 60mm Big 
Apples (with maybe 3mm clearance) and have the most comfortable ride 
possible."

Once upon a time I rode 700c x 60mm on my Bombadil... I'm a fat-tire lover, 
and typically go for the fattest tires I can fit.  But even I thought the 
60s began to feel a bit ponderous on longer road rides.  For shorter 
distance, especially on mixed terrain and local knocking around these were 
the absolute BOMB!!.  I eventually settled in on 50mm BAs and felt this was 
the better all-round choice... but admittedly I did miss the mega-cush and 
comfort of the Big-Daddy Big Apples...

I'm considering a pair of "Big-Mama" BAs for my Clementine 59cm... I don't 
care about weight... Clementine will clearly make her presence known along 
the Delaware River Trail from Frenchtown to Washington Crossing (and 
beyond).  

I say go BIG!!

BB

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:50:41 PM UTC-4, mike gasparino wrote:
>
> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can. 
> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too 
> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any 
> recommendations are much appreciated! 
> Michael 

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Re: [RBW] Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

[Tim Gavin]

IF you can fit 2.35" Big Apples, you can fit the Super Moto
.
It's the same tread but on a much lighter, more supple casing.

The best way to check clearance is with a caliper.  I use the <$5 plastic
ones from Harbor Freight.



On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:43 PM, mike gasparino  wrote:

> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can.
> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too
> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any
> recommendations are much appreciated!
> Michael
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Re: [RBW] FS Microshift 10 speed bar end shifters (mtb version), pearl izumi neoprene shoe covers

[Miles]

I do believe so. They were hooked up to a Shimano Deore RD-T610 which seems to 
be Dynasys based on my google search. It was from a surly cross check stock 
build. 

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[RBW] Atlantis 53 cm for sale

[Jeff Carr]

 

I have a Rivendell Atlantis, 53 cm, for sale. The components include a 
fairly standard build:

 

Nitto Albastache handlebars, dirt drop stem, front rack and seat post

Relatively new Brooks B19 saddle

Sugino XD600 crankshaft

Shimano XT 9 Speed Cassette

Shimano XT front and rear derailleur’s

Shimano R600 brake levers

IRD Cantilever brakes

Silver bar end friction shifters

Black Velocity Aeroheat wheels built by Peter White

Schwalbe Marathon tires

 

I have ridden it quite a bit, so it has the normal wear and scratches for a 
bike its age.  Pictures are available on request.  

 

Asking $1500 plus shipping.  Please contact me directly at 
froggy0...@gmail.com or at 813-215-6697.  Located in Tampa, Fl.

 

Jeff Carr

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[RBW] Tire Review: WTB Nano 40

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

I've had these on my Salsa for most of the summer up to now, and they have 
been riding great. They're a touch slower on the road than my favorite 
all-rounder tire, the Clement X'Plor MSO . But a lot more grab in the dirt, 
including singletrack. What really impressed me yesterday and inspired this 
posting was riding through a lot of goathead thorns. Almost all of the 
thorns were embedded in the raised tread portions and didn't puncture the 
tube. I was able to pull them all out. The few that were in the regular 
surface I was able to break off without releasing the pressure. Rode home 
without catastrophe!!! Still have to face the consequences this afternoon, 
but not having to change a tube mid-ride makes all the difference!

Plug for local to me retailer: 
http://www.jensonusa.com/WTB-Nano-Race-700C-Tire  

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Re: [RBW] Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Aaron Young]

Based on your intended use (lots of dirt) I'd say Hunqa over Atlantis
because of more SO clearance. Also, I agree the Hunqa's head badge is
probably the best ever in the history of the universe. :)

This might muddy the waters and maybe you've already considered and
rejected this idea, but the 56 Atlantis would probably work for you as
well. Biggest difference is 26" wheels. I coulda chosen a 56 or 58
Atlantis. I rode both. Went with 56 because I planned to be on rough stuff
a lot and wanted slightly more SO clearance.

In the end both Hunqa or Atlantis will be fine. They are very similar so my
advice is to just follow your heart and choose the one that you will love
the most.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR



On Wednesday, September 30, 2015, Çackalak  wrote:

> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

[Deacon Patrick]

One thing I've learned is I much prefer soft, supple tires to stiff, flat 
protection tires. And I haven't had more flats (your milage will obviously 
vary). The ride is soo smoth. Plush. Delicious. Thunder Burts 
are up there on supple scale and give an amazing ride.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:41 PM UTC-6, mike gasparino wrote:
>
> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can. 
> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too 
> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any 
> recommendations are much appreciated! 
> Michael 

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on 
the pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?  I've got a Surly Karate 
Monkey so now I can go as fat as I care to!  I'm running 40mm Duremes right 
now but want to jump to 50-60mm tires but I want a true 50+mm tire that is 
relatively lightweight but with decent puncture protection.   Big 
Apples/Bens are too heavy. 



On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:06:50 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> One thing I've learned is I much prefer soft, supple tires to stiff, flat 
> protection tires. And I haven't had more flats (your milage will obviously 
> vary). The ride is soo smoth. Plush. Delicious. Thunder Burts 
> are up there on supple scale and give an amazing ride.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:41 PM UTC-6, mike gasparino wrote:
>>
>> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can. 
>> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too 
>> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any 
>> recommendations are much appreciated! 
>> Michael 
>
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[RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for reflective vests?

[Edwin W]

I got this dorky/workwear thing that seems effective for areas where they 
are not used to cycling
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0057XCCY2/ref=pe_385040_127541860_TE_dp_1
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Re: [RBW] Bigger Jack Browns?

[Ryan Ray]

I was looking at those but would you ride them with a 6-6 200lb rider and 
say 40-50 lbs of stuff on a 30lb bike on gravel? A guy at work rides 
compass tires and they feel like he doesn't actually have tires only tubes. 
In terms of flat averseness on a scale of 1-100 I am a 90. Very intrigued 
though.
Right now I'm leaning towards supremes. 







On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:07 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>
>
> Barlow Pass by Compass is exactly what you want.
>
> My favorite tire.
>
> If the bike can't fit Barlow Pass, then Jack Brown Green is my favorite 
> tire.
>
>
> On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> I had a pair of Rolly Pollys when all I could squeeze in was 28s and they 
> were my favorite tires ever. Smoother than even my Paselas but much more 
> confidence inspiring on rough stuff.  but now I can squeeze in 37 or 41 so 
> which tires are most Jack Brown like at that size? Is Riv ever going to 
> make some bigger Browns?
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[RBW] Re: Bigger Jack Browns?

[Don Funke]

Marathon Supremes are nearly indestructible, but very slow. I have 700x35's 
on my commuter for that reason. 

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:30:57 PM UTC-6, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> I had a pair of Rolly Pollys when all I could squeeze in was 28s and they 
> were my favorite tires ever. Smoother than even my Paselas but much more 
> confidence inspiring on rough stuff.  but now I can squeeze in 37 or 41 so 
> which tires are most Jack Brown like at that size? Is Riv ever going to 
> make some bigger Browns?
>

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[RBW] FS: Showers Pass Pants, Ibex Jacket XL

[Zack]

Thinning the clothing herd, so to speak.  Add $5 shipping for first thing, 
free thereafter.

Showers Pass Club Convertible Pant

I have worn these a couple times, don't really think there are any signs of 
wear but you could probably find some if you looked super hard, you can see 
pics and description of the pants here: 
https://www.showerspass.com/products/mens-club-convertible-2-pant  *$50.*

Ibex Boucle Cardigan, Dark Madder Heather, XL

Also worn a couple times.  No real signs of wear, but you could probably 
find some if you went crazy searching for them.  Ibex calls it a cardigan, 
but I am not sure why, it's a jacket.  Zips up.  Nothing *screams* cardigan 
about it, let alone says cardigan, but that's what they call it.  It is 
warmer than a baselayer, it's pretty thick, good for cold mornings.  *$85*  
Pic 
here: 
http://shop.ibex.com/merino-wool-clothing/mens-long-sleeve-shirts/m-boucle-cardigan

Ibex Hooded Indie Heather Grey XL

Worn a couple of times (!) No real signs of wear.  Light heather grey.  *$75 
 *description here: 
http://shop.ibex.com/merino-wool-clothing/mens-long-sleeve-shirts/m-hooded-indie
 
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Re: [RBW] Bigger Jack Browns?

[Rod Holland]

Yeah,you could do that...

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Re: [RBW] Bigger Jack Browns?

[Jim Bronson]

I'm 6'7" and weigh in the 260-270 range, no problem with Barlow Pass on my
Redwood, about 500-700 miles so far.

Don't expect that they will last as long as they will for a 150lb guy, but
that's the downside of being big.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Ryan Ray  wrote:

> I was looking at those but would you ride them with a 6-6 200lb rider and
> say 40-50 lbs of stuff on a 30lb bike on gravel? A guy at work rides
> compass tires and they feel like he doesn't actually have tires only tubes.
> In terms of flat averseness on a scale of 1-100 I am a 90. Very intrigued
> though.
> Right now I'm leaning towards supremes.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:07 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:
>>
>>
>> Barlow Pass by Compass is exactly what you want.
>>
>> My favorite tire.
>>
>> If the bike can't fit Barlow Pass, then Jack Brown Green is my favorite
>> tire.
>>
>>
>> On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
>>
>> I had a pair of Rolly Pollys when all I could squeeze in was 28s and they
>> were my favorite tires ever. Smoother than even my Paselas but much more
>> confidence inspiring on rough stuff.  but now I can squeeze in 37 or 41 so
>> which tires are most Jack Brown like at that size? Is Riv ever going to
>> make some bigger Browns?
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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Boscos in an Amtrak box?

[Julian]

Mitch, 

As I recall the Amtrak-provided boxes are quite a bit bigger than a 
standard bike box. They're designed to hold a bike with both wheels still 
on the bike, so as long as the bars do not stick out beyond the front wheel 
you'll be ok that way. The bigger question is width, but I think it will 
still work -- the only real way to tell is to turn your handlebars and 
measure the width and length of the bike and bars and compare to the box 
dimensions. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 



On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 10:19:55 PM UTC-5, Mitch Browne wrote:
>
> I am taking the train from San Luis Obispo to San Diego on Monday.
>
> I can roll a bike on board for the trip down but the return trip on Friday 
> may involve shipping the bike back in an Amtrak box.
>
> I visited Amtrak today and of course the box says remove pedals, turn 
> handlebars and roll in box.
>
> The beater (stealth) '87 MB-1 is fitted with Bosco Bullmoose bars. Does 
> anyone know if these will properly fit for Amtrak shipping?
>
> Also, is there room to drop a fold up pannier inside without issue? I 
> thought I read of the box instructions that nothing else was allowed in box 
> but the memory is fleeting.
>
> Thanks for collective guidance.
>
> Mitch Browne
> San Luis Obispo, CA
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[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

[Deacon Patrick]

Rear rack without fenders? Can't be done. Impossible. Nope. No way. Wait. 
Oops. Works fine. Sardonic grin.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16786949014/in/album-72157652026645308/
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/19390517943/in/album-72157654012893374/

With abandon,
Patrick

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 3:17:10 PM UTC-6, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> It's great that you all are so supportive of my farming goal.  My brother 
> was all like "Are you sure that's a good idea?"  It's not a sure thing at 
> all, but it sounds more promising than anything I've done in the past.  It 
> will be, as was noted earlier in the replies, 'subsistence farming,' but, 
> as was also mentioned, hopefully we will do better than scratching a hole 
> in the dirt.  I still bounce between excited and freaked out.  But we are 
> selling the house and not looking back.
> So, do I really want to have fenders on the Clem?  I had planned on 
> fenders, but things have occurred.  Ditto for a rear rack.  That seems like 
> a necessity for carrying anything on a bike.  Does it make sense without 
> fenders?
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 12:28:19 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> Well, a little over a week ago I was laid off from my job, after five and 
>> a half years.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: What do Rivendell Riders use for reflective vests?

[Toshi Takeuchi]

My buddies and I have the philosophy that being as visible as possible is
the right way to ride. When riding with the roadies, my buddy has the
nickname "Caltrans".  We use that as a badge of honor.  It is way better
than being "Roadkill".

Toshi, lighting and brighting it up in Oakland.

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[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

[Wayne Naha]

It's great that you all are so supportive of my farming goal.  My brother 
was all like "Are you sure that's a good idea?"  It's not a sure thing at 
all, but it sounds more promising than anything I've done in the past.  It 
will be, as was noted earlier in the replies, 'subsistence farming,' but, 
as was also mentioned, hopefully we will do better than scratching a hole 
in the dirt.  I still bounce between excited and freaked out.  But we are 
selling the house and not looking back.
So, do I really want to have fenders on the Clem?  I had planned on 
fenders, but things have occurred.  Ditto for a rear rack.  That seems like 
a necessity for carrying anything on a bike.  Does it make sense without 
fenders?

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 12:28:19 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote:
>
> Well, a little over a week ago I was laid off from my job, after five and 
> a half years.
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[RBW] Re: Bigger Jack Browns?

[john]

I agree that Soma C-Lines are a good, fast, lively, fun tire. Perhaps not 
great concerning flats, but at 381 grams, a very fine riding tire. If I'm 
not riding the Jack's on my Hillborne, I'm riding the C-lines. 

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 6:30:57 PM UTC-7, Ryan Ray wrote:
>
> I had a pair of Rolly Pollys when all I could squeeze in was 28s and they 
> were my favorite tires ever. Smoother than even my Paselas but much more 
> confidence inspiring on rough stuff.  but now I can squeeze in 37 or 41 so 
> which tires are most Jack Brown like at that size? Is Riv ever going to 
> make some bigger Browns?
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Re: [RBW] FS Microshift 10 speed bar end shifters (mtb version), pearl izumi neoprene shoe covers

[Jim Bronson]

Yes. T-610 appears to be Deore "Trekking" with Dynasys, 10 speed.

Shimano doesn't really market the Trekking groups in the USA, shame.

What are you asking for the bar-ends?  I'm interested because the ratios on
10 speed for 11-34 look a bit nicer in the middle where I use them - 9
speed has 2 tooth jumps only to 17, whereas 10 speed has them to 23, in
Shimano cassettes anyway, Sram seems to be different.

9:  11,13,15,*17,20,23,26*,30,34
10: 11-13-15-*17-19-21-23-26*-30-34  (This looks more usable to me in where
I do most of my riding)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Miles 
wrote:

> I do believe so. They were hooked up to a Shimano Deore RD-T610 which
> seems to be Dynasys based on my google search. It was from a surly cross
> check stock build.
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Mark Reimer]

I've got a 58cm Atlantis and use it for exactly the purposes you're 
describing! 2.25 Thunder Burt or 2.1 Nano tires, unless it's really rainy 
and I put rock n' roads with fenders on. The fat tires are awesome on 
gravel and dirt roads. If it's really wet and sticky there isn't enough 
clearance at the frame for such fat tires though. A 2" tire would be safer. 
I've lost the paint on the inside of the frame at the tires from that, oops!

Dirt drop bars and a campee rack up front turns this into an awesome bike 
packing rig. I've done full days of single track on it, as well as several 
200km gravel days in a row and loved it. I'd love a Hunq one day, but 
wouldn't ever exchange my Atlantis for it. They are just way too similar. 
The Atlantis is like the crown jewel, queen bee, the classic! Just get one!

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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 1:20:44 PM UTC-5, Leslie wrote:
>
> A 56cm Atlantis instead?  It's be 26" wheels, but might fit you better 
> than the 58cm.
>
> If you want the 29x2.2, I'd lean towards the Hunq.  
>
> I'd consider a 56cm Atlantis w/ Motolites and 650b wheels.   Or a Bombadil.
>
> Or the Appaloosa.   
>
> Just get one, it'll be fine.  
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:44:09 AM UTC-4, Çackalak wrote:
>>
>> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
>> is the case.
>>
>> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the 
>> finalists.  On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would 
>> be sized 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>>
>> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
>> below:
>>
>> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
>> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
>> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
>> roads only to get to dirt.
>> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
>> proper cargo set up.
>>
>> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more 
>> of a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>>
>> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
>> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

[Joe Bernard]

Conversely, this would put me on a 45cm with a low standover height. After 
years of riding folders with the frame *way down there*, my creaky 
53-year-old body has completely lost the plot on towering toptubes. They're 
up there in the way for no reason other than most nice bikes used to look 
that way. I'm over it, and I think I would be very happy with a Clem. 

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 7:13:13 AM UTC-7, sprocket67 wrote:
>
> It seems like with the limited frame sizes the handlebar rise has to be 
> out of proportion to fit a rider that might normally need a larger frame. 
> If you usually ride a 56 you'd have to make the 52 work.
>
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:45:11 AM UTC-4, El Sapo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 2:40:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>>
>>> The Blug has announced that Riv has sold out their entire first run 
>>> Clems and Clementines.  
>>>
>>
>> Could they have made the bikes look any more dorky on the blog?
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Clem Presale is over.

[Reid]

Obviously, as the pre-sales sold out weeks ago, "dorky" is the latest "in 
thing" on the cutting-edge fashion scene.

Reid

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Re: [RBW] Bigger Jack Browns?

[James Warren]

I haven't used the superlights. I use the standards, and they were good with my 220 lbs and full large Sackville rear and trunksack small in the front on Marin Headlands dirt roads. Sam Hillborne frame.I've had good luck using them for a year, but just 3 days ago, I picked up the tiniest of thorns that must have poked through less than a millimeter, and that did give me a flat. I was a bit surprised at the wimpyness of the thorn that caused my flat.-Original Message-
From: Ryan Ray 
Sent: Oct 8, 2015 12:03 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: Re: [RBW] Bigger Jack Browns?

I was looking at those but would you ride them with a 6-6 200lb rider and say 40-50 lbs of stuff on a 30lb bike on gravel? A guy at work rides compass tires and they feel like he doesn't actually have tires only tubes. In terms of flat averseness on a scale of 1-100 I am a 90. Very intrigued though.Right now I'm leaning towards supremes. On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:07 PM UTC-7, James Warren wrote:Barlow Pass by Compass is exactly what you want.My favorite tire.If the bike can't fit Barlow Pass, then Jack Brown Green is my favorite tire.On Oct 7, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:I had a pair of Rolly Pollys when all I could squeeze in was 28s and they were my favorite tires ever. Smoother than even my Paselas but much more confidence inspiring on rough stuff.  but now I can squeeze in 37 or 41 so which tires are most Jack Brown like at that size? Is Riv ever going to make some bigger Browns?

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Lamp Holder No. 6 (aka Nitto Screw Mount LEFT)

[Zach Duval]

But seems like it would only work with the hanging Edelux...

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[RBW] Re: Fix broken connector on Luxos U?

[Anton Tutter]

Anne, this is a common problem with B lights. It is caused by a poor 
terminal design.

It is repairable but you need to have the correct terminal to replace the 
broken one. If you're not comfortable DIYing it, send me your light and I'm 
happy to repair it for the cost to ship it back to you.

Anton
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:05:18 AM UTC-4, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
> My bike got home from New Mexico just fine, except that the shop that 
> packed up my bike didn't detach my Luxos U from the handlebars, and 
> one of the little connectors, the tabs that connect the light to the 
> dynamo wire, got broken off. Is there a way to fix this? I don't want 
> to have to replace the whole expensive light just because a teeny 
> piece of metal is broken. Is it possible to take the light apart and 
> solder on a new connector? 
>
> -- 
> -- Anne Paulson 
>
> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Lamp Holder No. 6 (aka Nitto Screw Mount LEFT)

[Lungimsam]

Hanging gets you the cleaner, direct mount to a rack eyelet. Especially good if 
you are using a front rack with a front bag as it hangs out of the way of all 
that.
Read more here about the mounting benefits of the hanging Edeluxe: 
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/edelux-headlights-for-hanging-attachments/
Upright gets you cleaner mount to brake bolt at fork crown, or fender mount.

Read here about the electronic diffs between the Edeluxe II upright versus 
hanging: 
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/05/08/hanging-edelux-ii-headlights/
Hanging-no auto-on light sensor
Upright-comes with auto-on light sensor

Decide which version suits your tastes.

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Lamp Holder No. 6 (aka Nitto Screw Mount LEFT)

[Lungimsam]

Anton:
I did the Sheldon nut version on my M18 on my Sam. Haven't put the light on it 
yet. Waiting til I get another light one day. But it is Edeluxe-ready now.

I direct bolted my hanging Edeluxe II on my  Bleriot's VO Randonneur rack's 
eyelet.

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Kelly]

So I have both the nitro and tubus racks... it's a tie for a rear rack.   
 As for Ortlieb .. well I feel they are fantastic, the best.. well that is 
oh so subjective... I wouldn't give up my 10 year old Arkels for a new set 
of Ortlieb.. and and yes I'll take the secure cam locks as well.   That 
being said you really can't go wrong... and if you can buy new.. go look at 
the new brooks design where they partnered with Ortlieb ... man talk about 
sweet looking.   :)  

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 6:51:30 AM UTC-5, Will wrote:
>
> I have an Atlantis, and like Hugh, I love it. It does everything well. 
> Either bike gets it done, of course, but Atlantis is well... Atlantis. An 
> icon. 
>
> One piece of advice... if you're going camping, go with Tubus racks and 
> Ortlieb bags. Yeah, I know Riv promotes Nitto, and I have no beef with 
> Nitto, but Tubus/Ortlieb is the best touring/hauling setup around. 
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 11:44:09 PM UTC-5, Çackalak wrote:
>>
>> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
>> is the case.
>>
>> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the 
>> finalists.  On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would 
>> be sized 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>>
>> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
>> below:
>>
>> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
>> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
>> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
>> roads only to get to dirt.
>> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
>> proper cargo set up.
>>
>> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more 
>> of a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>>
>> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
>> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Showers Pass Pants, Ibex Jacket XL

[Zack]

Hoody is gone.  Jacket and pants still available.  

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:28:19 PM UTC-7, Zack wrote:
>
> Thinning the clothing herd, so to speak.  Add $5 shipping for first thing, 
> free thereafter.
>
> Showers Pass Club Convertible Pant
>
> I have worn these a couple times, don't really think there are any signs 
> of wear but you could probably find some if you looked super hard, you can 
> see pics and description of the pants here: 
> https://www.showerspass.com/products/mens-club-convertible-2-pant  *$50.*
>
> Ibex Boucle Cardigan, Dark Madder Heather, XL
>
> Also worn a couple times.  No real signs of wear, but you could probably 
> find some if you went crazy searching for them.  Ibex calls it a cardigan, 
> but I am not sure why, it's a jacket.  Zips up.  Nothing *screams* 
> cardigan about it, let alone says cardigan, but that's what they call it. 
>  It is warmer than a baselayer, it's pretty thick, good for cold mornings.  
> *$85*  Pic here: 
> http://shop.ibex.com/merino-wool-clothing/mens-long-sleeve-shirts/m-boucle-cardigan
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Lamp Holder No. 6 (aka Nitto Screw Mount LEFT)

[Anton Tutter]

The Sheldon nut solution is brilliant!!!

Anton
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On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:32:43 AM UTC-4, Lungimsam wrote:
>
> No problem with the M18, Zack. Do it like this:
>
> http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/77411364146/weve-been-selling-a-lot-of-these-schmidt-edelux

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Lamp Holder No. 6 (aka Nitto Screw Mount LEFT)

[Lungimsam]

But seems like there might be advances in lighting coming. I could be wrong.

I think Garmin has a light system now that brightens and dims as your speed 
changes. Both head and taillight setup. It works with their gps/cyclometer.
And I can't remember who, but I think that I read somewhere about a light that 
acts like a brake light so cars can see when you brake. Maybe that's the 
Garmin, though.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bullmoose Boscos in an Amtrak box?

[Mitch Browne]

Thanks Julian,

I gave the closer eyeball test and I don't believe it will be an issue.

It will be easier to take a bike than rent.

Mitch

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 4:11 PM, Julian  wrote:
> Mitch,
>
> As I recall the Amtrak-provided boxes are quite a bit bigger than a standard
> bike box. They're designed to hold a bike with both wheels still on the
> bike, so as long as the bars do not stick out beyond the front wheel you'll
> be ok that way. The bigger question is width, but I think it will still work
> -- the only real way to tell is to turn your handlebars and measure the
> width and length of the bike and bars and compare to the box dimensions.
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 10:19:55 PM UTC-5, Mitch Browne wrote:
>>
>> I am taking the train from San Luis Obispo to San Diego on Monday.
>>
>> I can roll a bike on board for the trip down but the return trip on Friday
>> may involve shipping the bike back in an Amtrak box.
>>
>> I visited Amtrak today and of course the box says remove pedals, turn
>> handlebars and roll in box.
>>
>> The beater (stealth) '87 MB-1 is fitted with Bosco Bullmoose bars. Does
>> anyone know if these will properly fit for Amtrak shipping?
>>
>> Also, is there room to drop a fold up pannier inside without issue? I
>> thought I read of the box instructions that nothing else was allowed in box
>> but the memory is fleeting.
>>
>> Thanks for collective guidance.
>>
>> Mitch Browne
>> San Luis Obispo, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bullmoose Boscos in an Amtrak box?

[Dave Brandt]

I payed a pair down at an angle and was able to get it down to just under 8" 
without bar end shifters. Your going to have to remove the whole bar with the 
attached quill stem and lay them at an angle

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Re: [RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

[Patrick Moore]

Once again: compared to what I and most other people do for a living, even
scratching hole in the dirt is far, far FAR more dignified, even if less
comfortable.

This text struck me strongly; from a French essayist and museum curator, I
think, of a generation or 2 ago. Farming (not corporate farming, of course,
which is a travesty, even if I depend on it for my meals) isn't quite as
directly human, but I think it's close.

*The autonomy and self-sufficiency of primitive man is inconceivable to
us.[3]

The
absolute independence of a man who is sufficient for all his own needs and
in possession of all his own powers because he is still consciously
attached to his fostering and fertile source; the indefeasible and
indivisible dominion of such a person surpasses the understanding of a
“civilised” being, who puts himself in the same position, and supposes
himself degraded to a state of bestiality, alone, weak, poor, and naked—a
position in which he may perhaps find himself tomorrow, though he certainly
never lived in such a state in the past.*



*To understand the life of these men, clothed with skins of animals and
easily nourished by the fruits of the earth, one must allow them by way of
compensation and balance, a spirituality all the higher because it was not
inhibited by external devices. This condition corresponds to what is still
the state of pastoral peoples, and to that of the patriarchs who recite the
Bible and Koran, the dogmatic content and formal perfection of which are
incompatible with the modern theory of “primitive man”.*

Luc Benoist,* The Origins of Art*, Studies, 14, 3-4 (Summer-Autumn, 1980)

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 3:17 PM, Wayne Naha  wrote:

> It's great that you all are so supportive of my farming goal.  My brother
> was all like "Are you sure that's a good idea?"  It's not a sure thing at
> all, but it sounds more promising than anything I've done in the past.  It
> will be, as was noted earlier in the replies, 'subsistence farming,' but,
> as was also mentioned, hopefully we will do better than scratching a hole
> in the dirt.  I still bounce between excited and freaked out.  But we are
> selling the house and not looking back.
> So, do I really want to have fenders on the Clem?  I had planned on
> fenders, but things have occurred.  Ditto for a rear rack.  That seems like
> a necessity for carrying anything on a bike.  Does it make sense without
> fenders?
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 12:28:19 PM UTC-4, Wayne Naha wrote:
>>
>> Well, a little over a week ago I was laid off from my job, after five and
>> a half years.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bullmoose Boscos in an Amtrak box?

[Dave Brandt]

Box dimensions

Checked — 50 lbs. — 70" x 41" x 8.5"

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 68cm Atlantis

[Abcyclehank]

Kelly,
Contact me off list.  A White Rhino may be ready to relocate to greater St. 
Louis.

Ryan "recent lottery winner" Hankinson
Spring Lake, MI 49456

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[RBW] Re: Nitto Lamp Holder No. 6 (aka Nitto Screw Mount LEFT)

[Lungimsam]

Hanging gets you the cleaner, direct mount to a rack eyelet. Especially good if 
you are using a front rack with a front bag as it hangs out of the way of all 
that.
Read more here about the mounting benefits of the hanging Edeluxe: 
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2012/01/09/edelux-headlights-for-hanging-attachments/

Upright gets you cleaner mount to brake bolt at fork crown, or fender mount.

Read here about the electronic diffs between the Edeluxe II upright versus 
hanging: 
https://janheine.wordpress.com/2015/05/08/hanging-edelux-ii-headlights/

Hanging-no auto-on light sensor
Upright-comes with auto-on light sensor

Decide which version suits your tastes.

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[RBW] Re: C in October

[Lungimsam]

So that's your bike on the Winter 2014 cover of American Randonner, Mary?

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[RBW] Re: Tall Riders Group

[BSWP]

And on that note...

https://www.flickr.com/groups/tallriders/

- Andrew, Berkeley

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[RBW] Re: That your Quickbeam in the RAAM movie?

[Lungimsam]

The Qbeam is in the movie.

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[RBW] Re: That your Quickbeam in the RAAM movie?

[BSWP]

Not a QuickBeam, those are sidepull brakes. And looks like semi-horizontal 
dropouts on the rear.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 9:45:23 PM UTC-7, ilter saygin wrote:
>
>
> I did not watch the movie but that has got to be Lon Haldeman. 
> See photos of him and that Quickbeam here:
> http://frank.harvard.edu/~coldwell/bicycle/PBP/
>
> ilter in Chicago
>
> On Thursday, October 1, 2015 at 1:39:28 PM UTC-5, Lungimsam wrote:
>>
>> That your Quickbeam in the Auerback RAAM movie?
>> At 8:24 point in chapter one, just after showing Jure Robic riding.
>> Green Qveam with black aero bars, cantis, frame pump, heat treated 
>> handlebars, grey/black bar tape, red rear bag with bungees, and a "Route 
>> 66" sign on bag.
>
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[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

[Surlyprof]

The farm's in Michigan?  Rack AND fenders!

Good luck with the new adventure.  I'm confident that it will be much more 
successful with a Clem.

John 
The Northern Ohio escapee

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Re: [RBW] Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[cyclotourist]

I like Dirt Drops a lot more than Midge bars. The Midges have a very narrow
top portion that I found limiting.

FWIW, I'm really liking the Salsa Cowbells and new Cowchippers.
Unfortunately only available in 31.8 clamp size.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Çackalak  wrote:

> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis or Hunqapillar

[Leslie]

A 56cm Atlantis instead?  It's be 26" wheels, but might fit you better than 
the 58cm.

If you want the 29x2.2, I'd lean towards the Hunq.  

I'd consider a 56cm Atlantis w/ Motolites and 650b wheels.   Or a Bombadil.

Or the Appaloosa.   

Just get one, it'll be fine.  

   


On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:44:09 AM UTC-4, Çackalak wrote:
>
> Maybe this is a question that gets asked a lot here, so apologies if that 
> is the case.
>
> I am looking for a new frame to build up and these two are the finalists.  
> On paper, they look very similar.  I have an 84cm PBH and would be sized 
> 54cm and 58 cm for Hunqapillar and Atlantis, respectively.  
>
> Just wondering if there is an advantage with either one, given my set up 
> below:
>
> * 29x2.2 tires.  Probably Maxxis Ikon or Schwalbe Racing Ralphs.
> * Dirt drop bars.  On One Midge or ?
> * Ridden mostly on dirt roads, with some singletrack mixed in.  Paved 
> roads only to get to dirt.
> * Bikepacking is a must.  I think both offer everything I need for a 
> proper cargo set up.
>
> Hunq is cool, but the aesthetics of the Atlantis draws me.  I like more of 
> a level TT, and the lack of SO height doesn't bother me.
>
> I think I am leaning Atlantis.  It costs a little more, but only $300, so 
> not bad.  Any advice either way?
>

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[RBW] Re: Tires for my Hunq

[Leslie]

FWIW, I love the Clement MSO's in 700x40.   Not as wide as you're wanting, 
but, they're great on my Rom (as long as I don't overinflate my rear).



On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 8:38:49 PM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> I will ride 85% dirt roads, 15% paved with my Hunq in northern VT. No 
> singletrack with this machine. 
>
> The dirt roads up here I think are different than those that have 
> captivated the gravel grinding craze of late - here they are either hard 
> packed dirt, recently graded looser fine grained dirt with golf ball size 
> rocks, or straight up mud/ice mixture come winter. There really isn't any 
> of that finer grained gravel that people wax on about and for which 
> something like the Rat Trap was designed. 
>
> In winter, I run Schwalbe's Ice Spiker Pros, a tire I am firmly committed 
> to. 
>
> The rest of year, what tires should I run? Right now debating between 
> Thunder Burts (2.25) and Super Motos (2.35). 
>
> Thanks for the advice!
> D.   
>

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[RBW] FS: 2 new XXL Pearl Izumi jerseys

[Julian]

Hello, 

I have two new club cut Pearl Izumi jerseys, size XXL, never used. One 
primarily blue, one primarily red. I got them as a thank you gift, but 
they're too large for me. I''d like to find them a good home, so I'm 
offering them to the list for $10 each shipped w/in the CONUS. 

Regards, 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

They're light, flexible, offer decent cornering grip in the dirt, and ride 
well on asphalt. They best thing I can say is that I don't notice they're 
there on pavement. Can't say that about many 2" knobbies!


On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 11:12:31 AM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on 
> the pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?  I've got a Surly Karate 
> Monkey so now I can go as fat as I care to!  I'm running 40mm Duremes right 
> now but want to jump to 50-60mm tires but I want a true 50+mm tire that is 
> relatively lightweight but with decent puncture protection.   Big 
> Apples/Bens are too heavy. 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:06:50 PM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> One thing I've learned is I much prefer soft, supple tires to stiff, flat 
>> protection tires. And I haven't had more flats (your milage will obviously 
>> vary). The ride is soo smoth. Plush. Delicious. Thunder Burts 
>> are up there on supple scale and give an amazing ride.
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 7:50:41 PM UTC-6, mike gasparino wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone tried this set up? Do they fit? Trying to go fat as I can. 
>>> Considering the 55cm big bens as well. I'm not looking for anything too 
>>> gnarly as far as tread due to only riding gravel and pavement. Any 
>>> recommendations are much appreciated! 
>>> Michael 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Schwalbe big apples 29x2.35 on 58cm Atlantis? And other fatties

[Deacon Patrick]

Chris, the TB's are as close as I've found to 2.1" 700c Compass tires. I 
hear slightly more road noise compared with the QB's Barlow Pass on the 
same roads. They are surprisingly smooth -- much smoother and more supple 
than the Smart Sams. I second all of David's description of them as well. I 
have not once thought "this ride will have a lot of pavement, so though I'd 
rather have gears today I'm going to take the QB -- which I did think with 
the Smart Sams.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:12:31 PM UTC-6, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> I've recently become interested in the Thunder Burts.  How do they do on 
> the pavement, compared to other tires you ridden?  
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Microshift 10 speed bar end shifters (mtb version), pearl izumi neoprene shoe covers

[jeffrey kane]

And price, please

On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 2:43:27 PM UTC-4, jeffrey kane wrote:
>
> Specifically, which Pearl Izumi shoe covers and what size?
>
>
> On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:45:16 AM UTC-4, Miles wrote:
>>
>> Any interest in the Riv world?  They have maybe 2 rides on them so they 
>> are like new. They were set up on a Deore RD. 
>>
>> Shoe covers are like new as well. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Microshift 10 speed bar end shifters (mtb version), pearl izumi neoprene shoe covers

[jeffrey kane]

Specifically, which Pearl Izumi shoe covers and what size?


On Thursday, October 8, 2015 at 12:45:16 AM UTC-4, Miles wrote:
>
> Any interest in the Riv world?  They have maybe 2 rides on them so they 
> are like new. They were set up on a Deore RD. 
>
> Shoe covers are like new as well. 

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Cunningham medical fund

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

I notice the largest donation is from RBW RBW.


On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 3:22:02 PM UTC-7, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Thanks for posting, Bill. I just pitched in. Check the comment from Grant 
> on the GoFundMe page.
>

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[RBW] Re: C in October

[Mary Gersemalina]

Hi all. 

I put together a short write-up with a few photos of the Pondero C Tour 
departure from Fletchers. Find it here, and thank you to Chris for inviting 
us all to join. It was great! 
http://chasingmailboxes.com/2015/10/07/from-the-page-to-in-person-pondero-rivendell-co-meetup/
 

Best,
Mary

On Wednesday, October 7, 2015 at 10:10:46 PM UTC-4, Pondero wrote:

> Thank you, John, for coming out to meet us, and for telling us those great 
> Gravel & Grind stories.  Your enthusiasm helping make setting up camp more 
> fun.
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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[RBW] Re: Laid off and in a Quandary

[RoadieRyan]

Wayne, I feel you pain -3 jobs since mid 2012 and I just started the latest 
one after a (unemployed) 5 month job search.  My dilemma was I had a 
purchased a late 70s Motobecane Grand Touring about a year ago that I had 
been trying to find for a couple years and then a bunch of new parts for 
it. as things started to get tight financially I was strongly considering 
selling the MB but decided I would first sell some of the new components 
(on this group).  I found out soon after listing the parts that I had a new 
job, so I was able to hold on to the MB and the parts I can replace as I am 
able.  I hope you are able to find alternatives to selling your dream frame 
and best of luck with the Farming venture -sounds exciting.

Ryan

On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 9:28:19 AM UTC-7, Wayne Naha wrote:

> Well, a little over a week ago I was laid off from my job, after five and 
> a half years.  The falling price of oil has had a sharply negative effect 
> in my industry.  There are other jobs in my field, but that would require a 
> major relocation.  My wife and I are tired of this, as it would be the 
> third such move in a little over a decade.  We are planning to relocate to 
> a plot of family land in the middle of BFE Michigan, and start a farm.  Its 
> a scary and exciting prospect.  My quandary is that I have a Clem on the 
> way, and it isn't paid for yet.  That is, Riv has their money but my credit 
> card has a big hole in it!  I have a good introductory deal:  No interest 
> for 15 months.  The Clem is the only purchase on the card.  So I figured 
> that it would be easy.  But now, of course, I feel differently.  Riv will 
> certainly cancel my sale, and someone else will certainly snap up the bike. 
>  But I can't let it go just yet.  It feels very selfish of me to want to 
> keep the bike, and I am trying to come up with ways to justify it's 
> existence in my life.  They ring hollow and I know it's just because the 
> bike has been this goal I've worked toward, and in some weird way, feel 
> I've earned.  Still, I might feel less stressed if I did just let it go. 
>  That money will find plenty of other uses.  Anyhow, I don't expect the 
> list to have any magic cures, but I just needed to rant.  Thanks for 
> listening.
>

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Re: [RBW] Bigger Jack Browns?

[Joe Bunik]

When my Legolas isn't wearing knobs... we wear these:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/21854228169

Basically, a non-Tour Guard, folding bead version of the Pasela x38. A
Jack Brown-tread'd version of these would be sublime (something like a
fat JB Green!). Great on road and off.

Heck, make it a blackwall while we're at it, okay Grant? ;-)

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 10/8/15, Rod Holland  wrote:
> Yeah,you could do that...
>
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Re: [RBW] Bigger Jack Browns?

[Tim Gavin]

Marathon Racer
s
are the fastest/lightest Marathon, but they still have good puncture
protection.  At 35 mm, they're slightly bigger than Jack Browns, yet only
375 grams.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Joe Bunik  wrote:

> When my Legolas isn't wearing knobs... we wear these:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/joe_bunik/21854228169
>
> Basically, a non-Tour Guard, folding bead version of the Pasela x38. A
> Jack Brown-tread'd version of these would be sublime (something like a
> fat JB Green!). Great on road and off.
>
> Heck, make it a blackwall while we're at it, okay Grant? ;-)
>
> =- Joe Bunik
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> On 10/8/15, Rod Holland  wrote:
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