[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[JohnS]

Excellent! Thank you for sharing.
 
JohnS
 

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:50:04 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Came across this, it's pretty good. Page down to go through it: 
> https://slate.adobe.com/cp/ts5O3/
>
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> Cheers,
> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Small Trunksack-Olive, VO Ranonneur Front Rack

[Marc Irwin]

Both are still available.


On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 8:05:23 PM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> Sales, pending on both.
>
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 5:01:03 PM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>> Several years use on them together.  The Trunksack has cosmetic wear 
>> only, plenty of use behind and ahead of it, no tears, rips, or leaks and 
>> the zipper is fine (free beausage!)  The rack is like new really.  I 
>> trimmed the tang to fit my Hillborne, that's it.
>>
>>
>> 
>>   
>> The VO rack 
>> 
>>  
>> is $60 plus shipping to lower 48.
>> The Trunksack is $60 plus shipping to lower 48.
>> Together $110 including USPS priority to lower 48. Firm.
>>
>> I don't do PayPal, but Google Wallet is easy painless and free.  If you 
>> must, a USPS MO by snail mail will work.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Richard Sachs

[Surlyprof]

Beautiful images.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fuOu0XKkJ6Y

A friend loaned me a copy of the film about Sachs, "Imperfection is 
Perfection."  If you haven't seen it, it was fun to watch.  Impressive guy.  
Only found this trailer on youtube.

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[Eric Norris]

I got mine in 2002. I tracked the progress on this web page, which includes 
photos that Richard took as the frame progressed:

http://www.campyonly.com/mypages/campysachs.html 
 

As Gary said, the frame is a work of art. Almost more like a huge piece of 
jewelry than a bicycle, really. I don’t ride it nearly enough. 

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On Nov 3, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Gary  wrote:
> 
> I was lucky to get on Richard's list back in 2001 when his wait time was only 
> about 9 months and the frame price was much lower than today. I met him at 
> his shop in CT, where he spent a couple of hours showing me around his 
> museum-like workshop, taking measurements, and talking about how he liked to 
> work. He was just a fascinating guy. During the build, he would send me hand 
> drawn postcards of the progress every month or so. The frame came right 
> around nine months after our visit, and it was - and still is - an incredible 
> piece of craftsmanship and an absolutely amazing ride. 
> 
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 10:38:17 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
> Beautiful images.
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fuOu0XKkJ6Y 
> 
> A friend loaned me a copy of the film about Sachs, "Imperfection is 
> Perfection."  If you haven't seen it, it was fun to watch.  Impressive guy.  
> Only found this trailer on youtube.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
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[RBW] WTT: Your green Shopsack size medium for my green Shopsack size large

[Evan E.]

If you have a green Sackville Shopsack, size medium, you wanna trade? My 
large version is in good condition, gently used. Would be happy to send you 
pictures. Please reply off list. 

Thanks,
Evan


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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Glad everyone is enjoying this! It was real nice flipping through them last 
night. The format is a bit different. I got a little tired of scrolling 
through the images, but thought it was unique. Haven't seen anything like 
that before. But regardless of format, the content was great.

I've seen the trailer for that bio, but not the full one. 

Sachs and Sascha White 

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 7:38:17 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> Beautiful images.
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fuOu0XKkJ6Y
>
> A friend loaned me a copy of the film about Sachs, "Imperfection is 
> Perfection."  If you haven't seen it, it was fun to watch.  Impressive guy. 
>  Only found this trailer on youtube.
>
> John
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Front Racks with Top of Fork Attachment

[Ron Mc]

  On my Viner cross frame, I had to improvise, since it has no holes of any 
kind.  Mark's Rack with it's M6 rod bolts at the rear is the one that will 
work.  

  
I accomplished the same thing as fork crown bosses using Tubus LM-1 clamps, 
and attached the front struts to Paul canti mounts with a pair of 
L-brackets from McMaster.  
I'm very happy with it - it's rock solid - and the only way to mount a 
front rack on this bike.  
I started a thread about it down the page.  

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[RBW] Front Racks with Top of Fork Attachment

[Edwin W]

With several Riv models now including attachment points at the top of the 
fork crown (including the new Clem/Clementine and Appaloosa), I would like 
to see some picture of how people use them and with which racks.

Interested,

Edwin

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[RBW] Re: Front Racks with Top of Fork Attachment

[Ron Mc]

ps, here's Ocean Air using a Mark's rack the same way -


- with fork crown bosses
http://oceanaircycles.com/2013/10/31/rambler-complete-builds/

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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Incomplete thought: Sachs and Sasha White seem to be the two halo-builders 
at this point. They have quite the followings!

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 9:55:23 AM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Glad everyone is enjoying this! It was real nice flipping through them 
> last night. The format is a bit different. I got a little tired of 
> scrolling through the images, but thought it was unique. Haven't seen 
> anything like that before. But regardless of format, the content was great.
>
> I've seen the trailer for that bio, but not the full one. 
>
> Sachs and Sascha White 
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 7:38:17 AM UTC-8, Surlyprof wrote:
>>
>> Beautiful images.
>>
>> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fuOu0XKkJ6Y
>>
>> A friend loaned me a copy of the film about Sachs, "Imperfection is 
>> Perfection."  If you haven't seen it, it was fun to watch.  Impressive guy. 
>>  Only found this trailer on youtube.
>>
>> John
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Tim Wood]

Looks good Zed, nice build. I'm curious to see how the front surly rack looks 
on there, keep the photos coming!

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Deacon Patrick]

Posted in a different thread, but here are the black and blue (turquoise) 
Clementines on their first (wee) adventure yesterday:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/22712606132/in/dateposted-public/

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 10:30:06 AM UTC-7, RDS wrote:
>
> I was just curious to see how all of the colors turned out for each 
> model.  Please, let's see some pics whether bike or frame.
>

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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[Pondero]

Thanks, David.  Really nice photos.  I met Richard at the very first NAHBS 
in Houston.  I was stunned that he politely chatted with me for several 
minutes while I tried in vain to not appear star-struck.  Enjoyable and 
encouraging conversation.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[Gary]

I was lucky to get on Richard's list back in 2001 when his wait time was 
only about 9 months and the frame price was much lower than today. I met 
him at his shop in CT, where he spent a couple of hours showing me around 
his museum-like workshop, taking measurements, and talking about how he 
liked to work. He was just a fascinating guy. During the build, he would 
send me hand drawn postcards of the progress every month or so. The frame 
came right around nine months after our visit, and it was - and still is - 
an incredible piece of craftsmanship and an absolutely amazing ride. 

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 10:38:17 AM UTC-5, Surlyprof wrote:
>
> Beautiful images.
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fuOu0XKkJ6Y
>
> A friend loaned me a copy of the film about Sachs, "Imperfection is 
> Perfection."  If you haven't seen it, it was fun to watch.  Impressive guy. 
>  Only found this trailer on youtube.
>
> John
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Sackville Small Trunksack-Olive, VO Ranonneur Front Rack

[Marc Irwin]

Sales is pending on the rack now.

Marc

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 5:36:21 AM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> Both are still available.
>
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 8:05:23 PM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:
>>
>> Sales, pending on both.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 5:01:03 PM UTC-5, Marc Irwin wrote:
>>>
>>> Several years use on them together.  The Trunksack has cosmetic wear 
>>> only, plenty of use behind and ahead of it, no tears, rips, or leaks and 
>>> the zipper is fine (free beausage!)  The rack is like new really.  I 
>>> trimmed the tang to fit my Hillborne, that's it.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>   
>>> The VO rack 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> is $60 plus shipping to lower 48.
>>> The Trunksack is $60 plus shipping to lower 48.
>>> Together $110 including USPS priority to lower 48. Firm.
>>>
>>> I don't do PayPal, but Google Wallet is easy painless and free.  If you 
>>> must, a USPS MO by snail mail will work.
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[RDS]

I was just curious to see how all of the colors turned out for each model.  
Please, let's see some pics whether bike or frame.

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Zed Martinez]

I've got a 52cm green frame in the stand right now about half built, hoping 
to finish it tonight. The green came out pretty much exactly like the 
pre-production demos showed. Sorry the pic in the stand is blurry, it was 
late and I took it in a hurry last night.

https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=C37EE9A2EAE73EA9!454124=!AJFYm5zGTQyGk3U=album%2c

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:30:06 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>
> I was just curious to see how all of the colors turned out for each 
> model.  Please, let's see some pics whether bike or frame.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Various Parts and Accessories

[Daniel Jackson]

Updated List and Pricing

All prices include shipping. Items purchased this week will ship Saturday. 
Thanks for perusing. 

Tubus Disco Rear Rack - black, good condition. $110

Paul Component Compact Love Levers - silver anodized, good condition. $85

Whipperman Connex 8sX 8 - Speed Chain - new in box. $60

Gilles Berthoud Rohloff Shifter - new condition, mounted once. black, 
22.2mm clamp (mountain version). with cables, $140

Swift Industries Polaris Porteur Bag - new, never used. Photo here 
.
 
$210.

Salsa Cowchipper Bar - new, black, mounted once. $60

Tubus Ergo Front Rack - new with packaging, black. $100 

Tires:
- Schwalbe Smart Sam 700 x 45mm (2). New, never mounted. $35 each; both $60.
- 45nrth Xerxes studded tire, folding120 tpi bead (2). Used, plenty of 
tread and life left with all studs remaining. $75 Each; both $130
- Schwalbe Marathon Supreme 700 x 35mm. Used, plenty of tread and life 
left. $50



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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[Philip Kim]

Also curious as to how people like the Clementine. Looks like the Cheviot 
is all out everywhere, and looking for clementine or chev to do 
pointless-riding-just-to-ride type of biking.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:30:06 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>
> I was just curious to see how all of the colors turned out for each 
> model.  Please, let's see some pics whether bike or frame.
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[sameness]

If your Atlantis needs a new home as a result, I might know a guy in 
Southern California, he could help you out.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 2:15:30 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> ...and, it's official.  I just hung up with Vince and paid for a 55cm Joe 
> Appaloosa.  I. Am. STOKED!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 7:01:47 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I am THIS close
>
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Bill Lindsay]

Thank you Jeff, but the Atlantis' position in my stable is secure.  The one 
I can most live without now is my Gunnar singlespeed.  

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 2:28:03 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote:
>
> If your Atlantis needs a new home as a result, I might know a guy in 
> Southern California, he could help you out.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 2:15:30 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> ...and, it's official.  I just hung up with Vince and paid for a 55cm Joe 
>> Appaloosa.  I. Am. STOKED!
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 7:01:47 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
>>> I am THIS close
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Bill Lindsay]

...and, it's official.  I just hung up with Vince and paid for a 55cm Joe 
Appaloosa.  I. Am. STOKED!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Friday, October 30, 2015 at 7:01:47 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I am THIS close


 

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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That is a real nice green, almost like a British racing green. I have a 
Kuwahara with a similar shade, maybe a bit deeper, bit less blue. Overall I 
much prefer the color choices for the Clem vs. the Clementine. Which I 
guess is why I went with black.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:44:21 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>
> I've got a 52cm green frame in the stand right now about half built, 
> hoping to finish it tonight. The green came out pretty much exactly like 
> the pre-production demos showed. Sorry the pic in the stand is blurry, it 
> was late and I took it in a hurry last night.
>
>
> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=C37EE9A2EAE73EA9!454124=!AJFYm5zGTQyGk3U=album%2c
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:30:06 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>>
>> I was just curious to see how all of the colors turned out for each 
>> model.  Please, let's see some pics whether bike or frame.
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Bags. Carradice, Acorn, Axiom

[Ryan Ray]

Nooo! I just found the saddle sqr part. I will send it of course. Lets chat not 
on this thread. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Bags. Carradice, Acorn, Axiom

[Patrick Shea]

Hey Ryan:

The bags arrived and look great! Are there more parts for the SQR? I didn't
get the parts that attach to the saddle. Also, there is a receipt from
Amazon for a monitor. Do you need that?

Cheers and thanks again,
Patrick

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Ryan Ray  wrote:

> Selling some bags I don't use. Strong preference to meet up in Seattle and
> not ship but I will ship too.
>
> Carradice Camper Longflap Black + SQR
> Originally $145 + $30
> Used lots
> $100 + shipping of your choice
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/22344413779/in/datetaken/
>
> Acorn Handlebar Bag Black
> Originally $105
> Used lots
> $65 + shipping of your choice
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/22542391711/in/datetaken/
>
> Axiom Seymour DLX 30 Pannier Set Black Gray
> Originally $75
> Used twice
> $40 + shipping of your choice
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ryanrray/21910046473/in/datetaken/
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[RBW] Re: Let's See Some Clem/Clementine Pics

[jandrews_nyc]

Is that the exact same green as SimpleOne slimy green?






On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 3:14:05 PM UTC-5, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> That is a real nice green, almost like a British racing green. I have a 
> Kuwahara with a similar shade, maybe a bit deeper, bit less blue. Overall I 
> much prefer the color choices for the Clem vs. the Clementine. Which I 
> guess is why I went with black.
>
> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:44:21 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>>
>> I've got a 52cm green frame in the stand right now about half built, 
>> hoping to finish it tonight. The green came out pretty much exactly like 
>> the pre-production demos showed. Sorry the pic in the stand is blurry, it 
>> was late and I took it in a hurry last night.
>>
>>
>> https://onedrive.live.com/redir?resid=C37EE9A2EAE73EA9!454124=!AJFYm5zGTQyGk3U=album%2c
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:30:06 PM UTC-5, RDS wrote:
>>>
>>> I was just curious to see how all of the colors turned out for each 
>>> model.  Please, let's see some pics whether bike or frame.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[Tony DeFilippo]

I was mesmerized by that media format...  really cool insight into a pretty 
amazing craftsman's work.  Nice to hear from a couple of people who are 
actual customers of his to!  Thanks for sharing.

Tony

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[RBW] Re: Front Racks with Top of Fork Attachment

[dougP]

I'll see if I can get a photo but a Tubus Duo mounts to the hourglass 
eyelet, with the lower eye attached to the fork blade with a big P-clamp.  
Not elegant & half a bubble off level but it's functional.  Large Ortleibs 
have plenty of ground clearance.  

dougP

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 10:59:05 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote:
>
> With several Riv models now including attachment points at the top of the 
> fork crown (including the new Clem/Clementine and Appaloosa), I would like 
> to see some picture of how people use them and with which racks.
>
> Interested,
>
> Edwin
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone order a Joe?

[Patrick D Kelly]

My assumption was that the pre-orders get the cash together so they can 
make the order. Since they have a "full retail" price published, I 
expect/hope they'll have more frames made than just the 50. There will be 
people who just want a bare frame (and I'd hope they can get one). They'll 
just not get a discounted/pre-order price. It may be that riv doesn't even 
need all 50 pre-orders to get the ball rolling.

In terms of ordering fewer of some sizes and more of others, I would not be 
surprised if they're ordering a minimum run of each size. So, to avoid the 
problem of smaller frames costing a lot more than medium frames, they just 
order the same number and plan to take longer to sell them. 




On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 4:58:35 AM UTC-10, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Ahh, that makes sense. I didn't think about the manufacturing logistics. 
> The Joe looks like a great bike too, I recently sold my Hillborne frameset, 
> because I wanted something with more clearance. Cant afford to plunk down 
> $2100 for a preorder even if it's a great deal. Once/if frameset comes 
> along, I will definitely pounce on it.
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 9:50:14 AM UTC-5, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>> I think it's more of a cash flow thing. Manufacturers probably want to 
>> set up once (for each size) to cut tubes, set up jigs, weld, and be done 
>> with 'em. Each time they change to a different size/spec, there's time 
>> lost. 
>>
>> Riv will probably be fine with a few unsold frames-- but paying for all 
>> the frames upfront is tough to manage. 
>>
>> (I think the Clem situation of selling all the pre-sale frames was 
>> unusual, and not really expected. Goes to show the demand for a 
>> well-thought bike at a nice price point.)
>>
>> Hope Riv sells out of these, too. I'd love to have one, but the overlap 
>> with my Rivs and own cashflow means I'll probably pass for now.
>>
>> happy riding,
>> shoji
>>
>>
>> On Monday, November 2, 2015 at 9:20:37 AM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>>>
>>> I may be wrong, but isn't that why they are pre-ordering? To give the 
>>> manufactures exact number so they don't get leftover sizing?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 1, 2015 at 10:54:48 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:

 By that method (overloading your cart with >10 in every size), it looks 
 like that as of Nov 1 2015, people have pre-ordered

 Zero -  46cm
 2 - 51cm
 6 - 55cm
 3 - 58cm
 1 - 62cm

 If they really need to limit the first run to 50 (for whatever reason), 
 it seems they'd be a lot better off building a lot fewer of the tiny ones, 
 and a lot more of the medium sized ones.  

 Like maybe 

 46cm - 3
 51cm - 8
 55cm - 20
 58cm - 12
 62cm - 7



 On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 5:13:07 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Add a bunch (10 or more) to the cart and it'll let you know how many 
> are in stock.
> David
> Chicago
>
> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 at 7:09:21 PM UTC-5, William R. wrote:
>>
>> Hey Chris, how did you find out how many 55's were left? Is that 
>> posted somewhere or did you talk to Riv? Just wondering because those 
>> would 
>> be interesting numbers to know. I wonder if Riv would/could extend 
>> quantities to, say 20 in certain sizes if 10 sold really fast. I also 
>> wonder what would happen if they did not sell 10 in any sizes. How that 
>> would effect things.
>>
>> -Bill (wondering in Westchester, NY)
>>
>

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[RBW] Portland Nov 4 to the 14th

[MTR]

Hey Owners Bunch, I'll be up in Portland living off my Sam Hillborne from 
Wednesday November 4 to Saturday November 14th. 

I've never been there before and I wondering in any folks on the list would 
want to go for a day ride or an overnight bikecamping trip, get a beer or 
some coffee, host me for a night or two, or whatever.

I have some friends I'm going to visit, but few definite plans at the 
moment and there is nothing better than getting out with someone with local 
knowledge.

A little about me, I'm 30, easy going, self sufficient, and like mixed 
terrain rides on the slightly mellower side of things. 

Got a free day, or morning or afternoon and want to go ride bikes, get at 
me. 

Morgan

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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[Kieran J]

Very cool.
A hand drill, a belt sander and some manual tools. Amazing!

KJ


On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:50:04 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Came across this, it's pretty good. Page down to go through it: 
> https://slate.adobe.com/cp/ts5O3/
>
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>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Richard Sachs

[Michael Hechmer]

Thanks, I enjoyed looking at that. It is good to be reminded that people 
can still find work that feeds that soul.

Michael

On Tuesday, November 3, 2015 at 12:50:04 AM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com 
wrote:
>
> Came across this, it's pretty good. Page down to go through it: 
> https://slate.adobe.com/cp/ts5O3/
>
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> David
>
> Member, Supreme Council of Cyberspace
>
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>
>
>
>

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