date:20160112

i ride mostly alone and don't often remember to take pictures, though now 
im looking through everyone elses pictures wishing i had. i also got 
married this year and moved into a house, which took a lot of time off the 
bike. here are mine. some bikey, some not. mostly outdoor stuff. my wife 
getting a rivendell was a huge highlightmosty for me.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/133784882@N08/albums/72157662898262220

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[RBW] Re: The newest BLUG

well said. one of many reasons i'm happy to buy from these guys over just 
about anyone else. 

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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread Mike Shaljian

My (48" wheelbase) Jones Plus is feeling super stable in the persistent icy 
slush of Eastern WA. You Clem/Clementine people should jump on some Ice Spiker 
Pros! I was amazed at how supple and lively this tire is for a knobby studded, 
they feel livelier than the 622-40 Marathon Winters I ran on my Sam Hillborne 
last year. I don't really get them being pigeon-holed for snowy singletrack by 
some sellers, they inspire supreme commuting confidence in terms of grip, 
ability to fight through 1-2" of snow and with decent rolling resistance to 
boot. The relaxed Jones geometry, long wheelbase and spikers make for an 
all-weather limo.

http://imgur.com/RCBQtkQ


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[RBW] The newest BLUG

2016-01-12 Thread Justin August

No sale. No new models. A whole lot of tears from me reading it. 

Actions like what Grant described are why I'm proud to ride a Riv and why I'll 
never not have one from here on out. I can't imagine many businesses doing 
something like this. 

Good Job Grant, way to set an example and have more empathy than business 
sense. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

2016-01-12 Thread tim.cl...@nike.com

Fun year for me. I've enjoyed looking at all your adventures. Here are some 
of mine! -- Tim Clark, PDX

https://www.flickr.com/photos/113550232@N02/albums/72157661156269213

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

2016-01-12 Thread sameness

Whatever that Velo Cult is, the answer is lusty.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CAUSA

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 9:11:33 PM UTC-8, tim@nike.com wrote:
>
> Fun year for me. I've enjoyed looking at all your adventures. Here are 
> some of mine! -- Tim Clark, PDX
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/113550232@N02/albums/72157661156269213
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: LS and SS wool shirts (small and XS)

2016-01-12 Thread Jenny

Sold!

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 1:44:46 AM UTC-5, Jenny wrote:
>
> Fight off the chill with very lightly used wool shirts!
>
> 1) Long sleeve green wool shirt.  Made by Windsor Wear in Canada.  Size S 
> (men).
>
> 2) Short sleeve green wool shirt.  Made by Merino Skin in Austrialia.  
> Size: XS (men), S (Women).
>
> Sizes run on the small size - good for a lean cyclist.
>
> $10 each ($15 for both), plus shipping (most likely USPS).
>
> http://share.shutterfly.com/action/welcome?sid=0EYsXDRq0bMmHL
>
> Jenny
>
> Washington D.C.
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[RBW] Re: The newest BLUG

2016-01-12 Thread dougP

I've heard that before about "making the problem worse" by giving directly, 
but I've never heard the reasons why.  Hey, if someone is freezing cold & 
needs more clothing, HOW can giving them stuff hurt?  That's BS.  The 
person needs help to stay alive today.  It's an emergency situation that 
needs immediate action.  

To Grant:  Just figure out the shortest time line between where the stuff 
is and where it's going to get put to use.  My 2 cents, anyway.

dougP

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 8:18:28 PM UTC-8, Justin August wrote:
>
> No sale. No new models. A whole lot of tears from me reading it. 
>
> Actions like what Grant described are why I'm proud to ride a Riv and why 
> I'll never not have one from here on out. I can't imagine many businesses 
> doing something like this. 
>
> Good Job Grant, way to set an example and have more empathy than business 
> sense. 
>
> -Justin
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The newest BLUG

2016-01-12 Thread sameness

Or come down here to the People's Republic of Santa Monica, home of 40 
degree nights, onshore winds, and no anti-vagrancy laws. 

Those huddled masses on the Promenade will take all the wool that's fit to 
be shorn.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 9:55:14 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> I've heard that before about "making the problem worse" by giving 
> directly, but I've never heard the reasons why.  Hey, if someone is 
> freezing cold & needs more clothing, HOW can giving them stuff hurt?  
> That's BS.  The person needs help to stay alive today.  It's an emergency 
> situation that needs immediate action.  
>
> To Grant:  Just figure out the shortest time line between where the stuff 
> is and where it's going to get put to use.  My 2 cents, anyway.
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 8:18:28 PM UTC-8, Justin August wrote:
>>
>> No sale. No new models. A whole lot of tears from me reading it. 
>>
>> Actions like what Grant described are why I'm proud to ride a Riv and why 
>> I'll never not have one from here on out. I can't imagine many businesses 
>> doing something like this. 
>>
>> Good Job Grant, way to set an example and have more empathy than business 
>> sense. 
>>
>> -Justin
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Days are getting longer!

2016-01-12 Thread Lungimsam

24 degrees in MD right now.
Sunset is around 5:04 pm.
Can't wait for Spring weather!

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

2016-01-12 Thread Garth


Bar end brake levers and thumbshifters mounted about the same place as the 
former brake lever mount (on the top-inside-the-curve).  I have all my Alba 
bars setup this way and I'd do the same with Albastache bars.   

I simply prefer to "reach out" for a shifter than a brake lever. 

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

2016-01-12 Thread Garth





   As I mentioned, I do this on Alba bars , here's a pic of one bike .  
With a Albastache and it's larger diameter bars I'd first use some Falcon 
friction thumbshifters that I bought years ago and are still for sale. They 
are rather generic in that I've seen the same shifter under a different 
name. These are a plastic ratcheting mechanism so I don't expect SunTour 
durability. 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/shifting-freewheels-cassettes/shifters/falcon-friction-thumb-shifters.html
http://www.amazon.com/EVO-E-Thumb-Friction-Shifter/dp/B00ZINPZUO

  These have a decidedly low tech clamp that can be used for mtn. or road 
bars . Otherwise I'd use the VO thumbie mounts Zed linked with some Suntour 
power ratchet levers I've have.  A stem mount would be another option but 
I've never done that.  With those shifter it would like kinds like this, a 
link to a lovelybicycle photo stream. 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/lovely_bicycle/5556919523/in/photostream/


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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread Belopsky

Looks great! 




I've moved to my Pugsley for winter commutes as of today. 

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

2016-01-12 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch















Summer of 15' Central Oregon Cascades with my son. Best trip EVER! 


Clayton Bend OR


>
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[RBW] Re: Sometimes a photo is better than a descriptive subject line.

2016-01-12 Thread 'Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch

I am really happy you are doing so well. Thanks so much for keeping me up 
to date!  

Clayton

On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 4:54:00 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Yes, it's a selfie. But it's a selfie with Rizzo, my Betty Foy. I haven't 
> been able to ride in over a year, but the weather was so nice today (though 
> a bit chilly), I decided to take a chance to see how the new knee would 
> handle a short ride. I didn't go more than 4km from home, and I rode very 
> slowly, but the point is *I rode my bike*. 
>
> For Clayton and anyone else who's facing knee surgery (or any other kind 
> of surgery that's keeping you off the bike), I can only say DO IT. The 
> recovery won't be easy, but the reward will be so great that they won't be 
> able to pry the smile off your face for weeks. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread JohnS

Zed,

My big dummy can be set up as either canti/v-brake or disk (first 
generation frame style, not sure if the current version has both). I 
currently have it set up with Avid Juicy hydraulic brakes. The braking is 
very good for my needs of running loaded errands around the neighborhood. 
They do seem to drag a little and make noises which I live with.

JohnS


On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:50:37 AM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:

> I hadn't thought about something like a big dummy, I bet that's an 
> interesting winter ride too. Those are disc, aren't they? How do you find 
> the disc braking in icing conditions on that? Was my experience with the 
> Felt mostly due to poor weight balancing on the frame, or is it something 
> more inherent in how crisply discs can lock a wheel?
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:36:06 AM UTC-5, JohnS wrote:
>>
>> Nice bike Zed! We haven't had snow yet this year, maybe we'll get a 
>> coating this afternoon. Last year I was out in the snow and ice on my Surly 
>> Big Dummy, not that has a long wheel base and rode just fine, so I get what 
>> you're saying. Schwalbe Fat Franks at 2.35" and a low tire pressure helped 
>> too.
>>
>> Happy trails,
>> JohnS
>>
>>
>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>>
>>> They certainly rock in the snow and ice. Winter finally decided to show 
>>> up here in Indianapolis so I took the fenders off and threw the knobbies on 
>>> the Clem this weekend. Today was the first commute in the bad weather 
>>> (which in my case means basically a straight mile of unplowed, unsalted 
>>> bumpy ice through the local neighborhoods until I hit the trail)... and 
>>> man, the Clem was a much better ride for it than my previous entries. In 
>>> the past I've leaned mostly on my Felt hybrid with its aluminum frame and 
>>> disc brakes with some 35mm Schwalbe Winter Marathons, but, it was always a 
>>> terrifying white knuckle adventure in riding the bumps and hoping the rear 
>>> wheel didn't decide to kick out from under me while following a rut. Even 
>>> with just regular knobbies (the cheaper versions of Continental's Mountain 
>>> King II what that were the only 650b mountain tires in town...), the Clem 
>>> handled everything much more casually and, importantly, much less 
>>> terrifyingly. I can speak for any other Rivs, this being my first, but it 
>>> really felt like the long wheelbase was definitely helping me out today. I 
>>> was notably less likely to get stuck at the mercy of a rut, and the one 
>>> time I hit a slick patch and the bike started to slide I put my inboard 
>>> foot down (like I always do to be ready to walk off the bike as it goes 
>>> down), and hitting the ground with it was enough to knock the bike back 
>>> upright and reset the rear wheel.The bike regained its balance instantly 
>>> and rolled smoothly on back on a straight track. I've had worse 
>>> experiences, for sure. I also have to say, whatever they toted merits, I'm 
>>> increasingly convinced I won't be going back to disc brakes anytime soon. 
>>> On the Felt I had to ride only the front brake because if I touched the 
>>> rear one even lightly it was enough to slide the rear wheel out (Avid 
>>> mechanicals or Shimano hydraulics both). With the cantis on the Clem I 
>>> never felt like I was lacking stopping when I was on the cleared roads, but 
>>> I had enough modulation to use either judiciously while I was on the icy 
>>> stretch and it made things a lot less worrisome for it.
>>>
>>> And, because pictures rock, obligatory "It's 7ºF, why are you taking a 
>>> picture?" picture.
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/zedmartinez/23697977403/in/album-72157661103966564/
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: iBOB crosspost - thinking about 2nd fork to make Redwood lower trail.

2016-01-12 Thread Michael Hechmer

David, I have a very nice chrome low trail, hi clearance fork I could part 
with at an attractive price if you are interested.  Say $75 plus shipping.
https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B02JRveFpJq8vUK
Michael

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 3:45:30 PM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I posted this over on iBOB, but certainly would appreciate feedback from 
> those who have tried out low trail forks on their Riv.
>
> I'm considering as a winter project, rebuilding my Riv Redwood as a 
> low-trail 700c bike. I'm not going to mess with the original fork, so my 
> options would be finding a high rake donor fork, going custom, or re-raking 
> one of these unpainted Riv forks: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f5.htm.
> I'm going with the Riv fork as the fork crown would be the same as the 
> original and it would have the upper/mid brazeons and double fork eyelets. 
> I should've bought one of these when they were 25% off before the New Year, 
> but oh well.
> I've talked with a local framebuilder and he's able to re-rake it for a 
> fairly minimal cost. Re-raking would effectively shorten the fork length, 
> which actually would be perfect as the clearance on the new Riv fork would 
> be greater than the original fork.
> I could even rattle-can it with this: 
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Testors-3-oz-Lime-Ice-Lacquer-Spray-Paint-3-Pack-1835MT/204481439
> I need to look into the overall durability of that paint, but if it'd 
> work, it's a pretty darn close color match to the original paint: 
> http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/Rivendell%20Redwood/B61B6C6D-7A97-413F-AF27-B9238D63044B_zpspuzmrkru.jpg
>
> My main question is this: What rake would be appropriate for this 700c 
> bike running Compass Barlow Pass (38mm) tires? Headtube is 73 degrees. I'm 
> leaning towards 65mm rake, which would give a trail measurement of 40mm.
>
> Any thoughts - including don't do it - are appreciated.
> David
> Chicago
>

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[RBW] iBOB crosspost - thinking about 2nd fork to make Redwood lower trail.

2016-01-12 Thread David Banzer

I posted this over on iBOB, but certainly would appreciate feedback from
those who have tried out low trail forks on their Riv.

I'm considering as a winter project, rebuilding my Riv Redwood as a
low-trail 700c bike. I'm not going to mess with the original fork, so my
options would be finding a high rake donor fork, going custom, or re-raking
one of these unpainted Riv forks: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f5.htm.
I'm going with the Riv fork as the fork crown would be the same as the
original and it would have the upper/mid brazeons and double fork eyelets.
I should've bought one of these when they were 25% off before the New Year,
but oh well.
I've talked with a local framebuilder and he's able to re-rake it for a
fairly minimal cost. Re-raking would effectively shorten the fork length,
which actually would be perfect as the clearance on the new Riv fork would
be greater than the original fork.
I could even rattle-can it with this:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Testors-3-oz-Lime-Ice-Lacquer-Spray-Paint-3-Pack-1835MT/204481439
I need to look into the overall durability of that paint, but if it'd work,
it's a pretty darn close color match to the original paint:
http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/Rivendell%20Redwood/B61B6C6D-7A97-413F-AF27-B9238D63044B_zpspuzmrkru.jpg

My main question is this: What rake would be appropriate for this 700c bike
running Compass Barlow Pass (38mm) tires? Headtube is 73 degrees. I'm
leaning towards 65mm rake, which would give a trail measurement of 40mm.

Any thoughts - including don't do it - are appreciated.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

2016-01-12 Thread 'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch

Great shots from everyone! Not to be too tardy, here are 15 of mine from 
2015:  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157663334635321

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 2:39:16 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hi Group,
>
> I don't think I've seen a post on the best of your images from 2015. So 
> let's see your culled images.
>
> Sorry to hear Deacon Patrick closed his Flickr account because of certain 
> tootsie fetishes. 
>
> Here's my submission 
> .
>
> And here's hoping 2016 exceeds 2015.
>
> Tail Winds,
>
> Hugh
> Los Angeles, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread Wayne Naha

That's a beautiful bike in a great setting.  I'm glad to hear that your 
Clem handles well in the ice and snow, since I will soon be out in it 
myself.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/zedmartinez/23697977403/in/album-72157661103966564/
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

Garth, I'm intrigued. Any pics of this setup?

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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread Christopher Wiggins

Great looking bike Zed.  Let me know if you ever need any help.  We're in 
Indy, and a Riv dealer.  

Best,

Chris Wiggins
Owner
A1 Cyclery

On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>
> They certainly rock in the snow and ice. Winter finally decided to show up 
> here in Indianapolis so I took the fenders off and threw the knobbies on 
> the Clem this weekend. Today was the first commute in the bad weather 
> (which in my case means basically a straight mile of unplowed, unsalted 
> bumpy ice through the local neighborhoods until I hit the trail)... and 
> man, the Clem was a much better ride for it than my previous entries. In 
> the past I've leaned mostly on my Felt hybrid with its aluminum frame and 
> disc brakes with some 35mm Schwalbe Winter Marathons, but, it was always a 
> terrifying white knuckle adventure in riding the bumps and hoping the rear 
> wheel didn't decide to kick out from under me while following a rut. Even 
> with just regular knobbies (the cheaper versions of Continental's Mountain 
> King II what that were the only 650b mountain tires in town...), the Clem 
> handled everything much more casually and, importantly, much less 
> terrifyingly. I can speak for any other Rivs, this being my first, but it 
> really felt like the long wheelbase was definitely helping me out today. I 
> was notably less likely to get stuck at the mercy of a rut, and the one 
> time I hit a slick patch and the bike started to slide I put my inboard 
> foot down (like I always do to be ready to walk off the bike as it goes 
> down), and hitting the ground with it was enough to knock the bike back 
> upright and reset the rear wheel.The bike regained its balance instantly 
> and rolled smoothly on back on a straight track. I've had worse 
> experiences, for sure. I also have to say, whatever they toted merits, I'm 
> increasingly convinced I won't be going back to disc brakes anytime soon. 
> On the Felt I had to ride only the front brake because if I touched the 
> rear one even lightly it was enough to slide the rear wheel out (Avid 
> mechanicals or Shimano hydraulics both). With the cantis on the Clem I 
> never felt like I was lacking stopping when I was on the cleared roads, but 
> I had enough modulation to use either judiciously while I was on the icy 
> stretch and it made things a lot less worrisome for it.
>
> And, because pictures rock, obligatory "It's 7ºF, why are you taking a 
> picture?" picture.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/zedmartinez/23697977403/in/album-72157661103966564/
>

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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread JohnS

Nice bike Zed! We haven't had snow yet this year, maybe we'll get a coating 
this afternoon. Last year I was out in the snow and ice on my Surly Big 
Dummy, not that has a long wheel base and rode just fine, so I get what 
you're saying. Schwalbe Fat Franks at 2.35" and a low tire pressure helped 
too.

Happy trails,
JohnS


On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:

> They certainly rock in the snow and ice. Winter finally decided to show up 
> here in Indianapolis so I took the fenders off and threw the knobbies on 
> the Clem this weekend. Today was the first commute in the bad weather 
> (which in my case means basically a straight mile of unplowed, unsalted 
> bumpy ice through the local neighborhoods until I hit the trail)... and 
> man, the Clem was a much better ride for it than my previous entries. In 
> the past I've leaned mostly on my Felt hybrid with its aluminum frame and 
> disc brakes with some 35mm Schwalbe Winter Marathons, but, it was always a 
> terrifying white knuckle adventure in riding the bumps and hoping the rear 
> wheel didn't decide to kick out from under me while following a rut. Even 
> with just regular knobbies (the cheaper versions of Continental's Mountain 
> King II what that were the only 650b mountain tires in town...), the Clem 
> handled everything much more casually and, importantly, much less 
> terrifyingly. I can speak for any other Rivs, this being my first, but it 
> really felt like the long wheelbase was definitely helping me out today. I 
> was notably less likely to get stuck at the mercy of a rut, and the one 
> time I hit a slick patch and the bike started to slide I put my inboard 
> foot down (like I always do to be ready to walk off the bike as it goes 
> down), and hitting the ground with it was enough to knock the bike back 
> upright and reset the rear wheel.The bike regained its balance instantly 
> and rolled smoothly on back on a straight track. I've had worse 
> experiences, for sure. I also have to say, whatever they toted merits, I'm 
> increasingly convinced I won't be going back to disc brakes anytime soon. 
> On the Felt I had to ride only the front brake because if I touched the 
> rear one even lightly it was enough to slide the rear wheel out (Avid 
> mechanicals or Shimano hydraulics both). With the cantis on the Clem I 
> never felt like I was lacking stopping when I was on the cleared roads, but 
> I had enough modulation to use either judiciously while I was on the icy 
> stretch and it made things a lot less worrisome for it.
>
> And, because pictures rock, obligatory "It's 7ºF, why are you taking a 
> picture?" picture.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/zedmartinez/23697977403/in/album-72157661103966564/
>

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[RBW] FS: VP-001 Thin Gripster Pedals - Riv Gray - $55 shipped

2016-01-12 Thread David Banzer

I bought these from Rivendell and used these on my Clem for a bit, work 
great.
I have these on all my bikes, but Clem's going to get a special pedal treat.

VP-001/Thin Gripsters Pedals
Riv gray.
$55 shipped conUS.
Paypal Personal payment please.
Thanks,
David
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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

Where do you think I got the crankset, brake levers, and that Sackville at, 
Chris? ;) I'm the guy who was in some this summer looking at things and 
mentioning I had one of those Clems coming. I'm sure I'll make it back out 
for something else sometime, too. You're just a bit harder for me to get to 
in a hurry from my side of town.

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:20:20 AM UTC-5, Christopher Wiggins 
wrote:
>
> Great looking bike Zed.  Let me know if you ever need any help.  We're in 
> Indy, and a Riv dealer.  
>
> Best,
>
> Chris Wiggins
> Owner
> A1 Cyclery
>
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>>
>> They certainly rock in the snow and ice. Winter finally decided to show 
>> up here in Indianapolis so I took the fenders off and threw the knobbies on 
>> the Clem this weekend. Today was the first commute in the bad weather 
>> (which in my case means basically a straight mile of unplowed, unsalted 
>> bumpy ice through the local neighborhoods until I hit the trail)... and 
>> man, the Clem was a much better ride for it than my previous entries. In 
>> the past I've leaned mostly on my Felt hybrid with its aluminum frame and 
>> disc brakes with some 35mm Schwalbe Winter Marathons, but, it was always a 
>> terrifying white knuckle adventure in riding the bumps and hoping the rear 
>> wheel didn't decide to kick out from under me while following a rut. Even 
>> with just regular knobbies (the cheaper versions of Continental's Mountain 
>> King II what that were the only 650b mountain tires in town...), the Clem 
>> handled everything much more casually and, importantly, much less 
>> terrifyingly. I can speak for any other Rivs, this being my first, but it 
>> really felt like the long wheelbase was definitely helping me out today. I 
>> was notably less likely to get stuck at the mercy of a rut, and the one 
>> time I hit a slick patch and the bike started to slide I put my inboard 
>> foot down (like I always do to be ready to walk off the bike as it goes 
>> down), and hitting the ground with it was enough to knock the bike back 
>> upright and reset the rear wheel.The bike regained its balance instantly 
>> and rolled smoothly on back on a straight track. I've had worse 
>> experiences, for sure. I also have to say, whatever they toted merits, I'm 
>> increasingly convinced I won't be going back to disc brakes anytime soon. 
>> On the Felt I had to ride only the front brake because if I touched the 
>> rear one even lightly it was enough to slide the rear wheel out (Avid 
>> mechanicals or Shimano hydraulics both). With the cantis on the Clem I 
>> never felt like I was lacking stopping when I was on the cleared roads, but 
>> I had enough modulation to use either judiciously while I was on the icy 
>> stretch and it made things a lot less worrisome for it.
>>
>> And, because pictures rock, obligatory "It's 7ºF, why are you taking a 
>> picture?" picture.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/zedmartinez/23697977403/in/album-72157661103966564/
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado

I hadn't thought about something like a big dummy, I bet that's an 
interesting winter ride too. Those are disc, aren't they? How do you find 
the disc braking in icing conditions on that? Was my experience with the 
Felt mostly due to poor weight balancing on the frame, or is it something 
more inherent in how crisply discs can lock a wheel?

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:36:06 AM UTC-5, JohnS wrote:
>
> Nice bike Zed! We haven't had snow yet this year, maybe we'll get a 
> coating this afternoon. Last year I was out in the snow and ice on my Surly 
> Big Dummy, not that has a long wheel base and rode just fine, so I get what 
> you're saying. Schwalbe Fat Franks at 2.35" and a low tire pressure helped 
> too.
>
> Happy trails,
> JohnS
>
>
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>
>> They certainly rock in the snow and ice. Winter finally decided to show 
>> up here in Indianapolis so I took the fenders off and threw the knobbies on 
>> the Clem this weekend. Today was the first commute in the bad weather 
>> (which in my case means basically a straight mile of unplowed, unsalted 
>> bumpy ice through the local neighborhoods until I hit the trail)... and 
>> man, the Clem was a much better ride for it than my previous entries. In 
>> the past I've leaned mostly on my Felt hybrid with its aluminum frame and 
>> disc brakes with some 35mm Schwalbe Winter Marathons, but, it was always a 
>> terrifying white knuckle adventure in riding the bumps and hoping the rear 
>> wheel didn't decide to kick out from under me while following a rut. Even 
>> with just regular knobbies (the cheaper versions of Continental's Mountain 
>> King II what that were the only 650b mountain tires in town...), the Clem 
>> handled everything much more casually and, importantly, much less 
>> terrifyingly. I can speak for any other Rivs, this being my first, but it 
>> really felt like the long wheelbase was definitely helping me out today. I 
>> was notably less likely to get stuck at the mercy of a rut, and the one 
>> time I hit a slick patch and the bike started to slide I put my inboard 
>> foot down (like I always do to be ready to walk off the bike as it goes 
>> down), and hitting the ground with it was enough to knock the bike back 
>> upright and reset the rear wheel.The bike regained its balance instantly 
>> and rolled smoothly on back on a straight track. I've had worse 
>> experiences, for sure. I also have to say, whatever they toted merits, I'm 
>> increasingly convinced I won't be going back to disc brakes anytime soon. 
>> On the Felt I had to ride only the front brake because if I touched the 
>> rear one even lightly it was enough to slide the rear wheel out (Avid 
>> mechanicals or Shimano hydraulics both). With the cantis on the Clem I 
>> never felt like I was lacking stopping when I was on the cleared roads, but 
>> I had enough modulation to use either judiciously while I was on the icy 
>> stretch and it made things a lot less worrisome for it.
>>
>> And, because pictures rock, obligatory "It's 7ºF, why are you taking a 
>> picture?" picture.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/zedmartinez/23697977403/in/album-72157661103966564/
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread NickBull

Maybe you can sell him some 650B studded tires ...

In my experience, no bike that is just on rubber tires is going to do all 
that great on rutted ice.  And many models of studded tires don't do all 
that well on rutted ice, either.  If the studs are only along the 
centerline, then they only help you climb out of the rut once the tire is 
nearly perpendicular to the rut.  So that means you have to slide almost 
far enough to go down before the tire even catches.  I've settled on Nokian 
Extreme 296's because the studs on the edges of the tire do a good job of 
catching in ruts.  But even with those tires, there were several patches on 
last-year's winter commute where the ice was so choppy and the ruts so deep 
and exactly the width of my tires that I got off and walked a hundred 
yards, rather than risk going down.  This is winter commuting in DC, where 
the bike trails that I ride do not get plowed for almost all of my 7-mile 
winter commute.

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:20:20 AM UTC-5, Christopher Wiggins 
wrote:
>
> Great looking bike Zed.  Let me know if you ever need any help.  We're in 
> Indy, and a Riv dealer.  
>
> Best,
>
> Chris Wiggins
> Owner
> A1 Cyclery
>
> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>>
>> They certainly rock in the snow and ice. Winter finally decided to show 
>> up here in Indianapolis so I took the fenders off and threw the knobbies on 
>> the Clem this weekend. Today was the first commute in the bad weather 
>> (which in my case means basically a straight mile of unplowed, unsalted 
>> bumpy ice through the local neighborhoods until I hit the trail)... and 
>> man, the Clem was a much better ride for it than my previous entries. In 
>> the past I've leaned mostly on my Felt hybrid with its aluminum frame and 
>> disc brakes with some 35mm Schwalbe Winter Marathons, but, it was always a 
>> terrifying white knuckle adventure in riding the bumps and hoping the rear 
>> wheel didn't decide to kick out from under me while following a rut. Even 
>> with just regular knobbies (the cheaper versions of Continental's Mountain 
>> King II what that were the only 650b mountain tires in town...), the Clem 
>> handled everything much more casually and, importantly, much less 
>> terrifyingly. I can speak for any other Rivs, this being my first, but it 
>> really felt like the long wheelbase was definitely helping me out today. I 
>> was notably less likely to get stuck at the mercy of a rut, and the one 
>> time I hit a slick patch and the bike started to slide I put my inboard 
>> foot down (like I always do to be ready to walk off the bike as it goes 
>> down), and hitting the ground with it was enough to knock the bike back 
>> upright and reset the rear wheel.The bike regained its balance instantly 
>> and rolled smoothly on back on a straight track. I've had worse 
>> experiences, for sure. I also have to say, whatever they toted merits, I'm 
>> increasingly convinced I won't be going back to disc brakes anytime soon. 
>> On the Felt I had to ride only the front brake because if I touched the 
>> rear one even lightly it was enough to slide the rear wheel out (Avid 
>> mechanicals or Shimano hydraulics both). With the cantis on the Clem I 
>> never felt like I was lacking stopping when I was on the cleared roads, but 
>> I had enough modulation to use either judiciously while I was on the icy 
>> stretch and it made things a lot less worrisome for it.
>>
>> And, because pictures rock, obligatory "It's 7ºF, why are you taking a 
>> picture?" picture.
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/zedmartinez/23697977403/in/album-72157661103966564/
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

My first full year riding my Sam.
Great memories ,First coffee out.New trails,& wildlife. The best 
memories made with friends old and new.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?start_tab=one_set72157661135958994
Jon


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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

2016-01-12 Thread Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado

Rob,

Very nice set! You live in a great area for riding in stunning natural
beauty. Great pic of you and daughter having fun and love the different
rides you have.

Have a great '16

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Jan 11, 2016 7:39 PM, "rob markwardt"  wrote:

> I thought I'd already done this but turns out that was on the
> boblist...doh!  Here's some of mine.  Like many there were less photos this
> year, however, the riding was better than ever (except for December which
> was kind of a downer). Still riding more than ever though and hope to keep
> it going in the new year.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/77502424@N00/albums/72157662469822870
>
>
> Rob Markwardt
> Seattle
>
> On Saturday, January 9, 2016 at 11:39:16 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Hi Group,
>>
>> I don't think I've seen a post on the best of your images from 2015. So
>> let's see your culled images.
>>
>> Sorry to hear Deacon Patrick closed his Flickr account because of certain
>> tootsie fetishes.
>>
>> Here's my submission
>> .
>>
>> And here's hoping 2016 exceeds 2015.
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> Hugh
>> Los Angeles, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015


My first full year riding my Sam. 
Great memories of 2015First coffee out, new trails, best memories made 
with friends old and new.
My best 15 of 2015.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/126595234@N07/albums/72157661135958994

Jon


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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

Brian,

As always great documentation of your OOB adventure and daily Seattle
commute. Looking to '16 and your pictures & insights.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Jan 12, 2016 8:30 AM, "stonehog"  wrote:

> Here are my faves from 2015.  Thanks for all the inspiration, folks!
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskpctbAo
>
> Brian Hanson
> Seattle, WA
> www.stonehog.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

Clayton,

Sounds like an excellent trip. Can you explain the interesting kickstand?
Looks like a good stabilizer pad you added.

Thanks for the share. How awesome to have a bike tour with your son.

Here's to more great memories in '16

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
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> Summer of 15' Central Oregon Cascades with my son. Best trip EVER!
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

Paul,

I remember that image above it all on the RSR. There are a few folks I
follow on Flickr from the other shore and your escapades always make me
want to ride Virginia. You know I love your Homer that color! Hope to see
you this March. Have a great '16

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Jan 12, 2016 12:45 PM, "'Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch" <
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> Great shots from everyone! Not to be too tardy, here are 15 of mine from
> 2015:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikecrazy-paul/albums/72157663334635321
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Sunday, January 10, 2016 at 2:39:16 AM UTC-5, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> Hi Group,
>>
>> I don't think I've seen a post on the best of your images from 2015. So
>> let's see your culled images.
>>
>> Sorry to hear Deacon Patrick closed his Flickr account because of certain
>> tootsie fetishes.
>>
>> Here's my submission
>> .
>>
>> And here's hoping 2016 exceeds 2015.
>>
>> Tail Winds,
>>
>> Hugh
>> Los Angeles, CA
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[RBW] Re: iBOB crosspost - thinking about 2nd fork to make Redwood lower trail.

2016-01-12 Thread dougP

David:

A few years ago I had Tom Matchak 
(http://tommatchakcycles.blogspot.com/2007/03/frame-neutral-replacement-fork.html
 
) build a lower trail fork for my Atlantis.  It's 40 mm trail, and I use 40 
to 45 mm tires on my 700c wheels.  It came out nice & I like the 
improvement in handling (I like front loads).  He used a crown that's not 
far off the stock one and it doesn't stand out.  Tom was very accomodating 
about adding the various attachment fittings.  I have 2 eyelets at the fork 
end; a thru attachment mid-fork for low rider rack, and the upper hour 
glass eyelets for the small Nitto front rack.  

dougP


On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 12:45:30 PM UTC-8, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I posted this over on iBOB, but certainly would appreciate feedback from 
> those who have tried out low trail forks on their Riv.
>
> I'm considering as a winter project, rebuilding my Riv Redwood as a 
> low-trail 700c bike. I'm not going to mess with the original fork, so my 
> options would be finding a high rake donor fork, going custom, or re-raking 
> one of these unpainted Riv forks: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f5.htm.
> I'm going with the Riv fork as the fork crown would be the same as the 
> original and it would have the upper/mid brazeons and double fork eyelets. 
> I should've bought one of these when they were 25% off before the New Year, 
> but oh well.
> I've talked with a local framebuilder and he's able to re-rake it for a 
> fairly minimal cost. Re-raking would effectively shorten the fork length, 
> which actually would be perfect as the clearance on the new Riv fork would 
> be greater than the original fork.
> I could even rattle-can it with this: 
> http://www.homedepot.com/p/Testors-3-oz-Lime-Ice-Lacquer-Spray-Paint-3-Pack-1835MT/204481439
> I need to look into the overall durability of that paint, but if it'd 
> work, it's a pretty darn close color match to the original paint: 
> http://i821.photobucket.com/albums/zz136/dabanzer/Rivendell%20Redwood/B61B6C6D-7A97-413F-AF27-B9238D63044B_zpspuzmrkru.jpg
>
> My main question is this: What rake would be appropriate for this 700c 
> bike running Compass Barlow Pass (38mm) tires? Headtube is 73 degrees. I'm 
> leaning towards 65mm rake, which would give a trail measurement of 40mm.
>
> Any thoughts - including don't do it - are appreciated.
> David
> Chicago
>

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

2016-01-12 Thread Edwin W


I've got 11 for 2015
https://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/albums/72157661149169223

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

Jon,

I like how you do coffee outside! And Colorado is on my short list to visit.

I was happy to see you and Brad connect for some rides. Happy 2016 my
friend.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Jan 12, 2016 2:39 PM, "Jon Dukeman in the foothills of Colorado" <
row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> My first full year riding my Sam.
> Great memories of 2015First coffee out, new trails, best memories made
> with friends old and new.
> My best 15 of 2015.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/126595234@N07/albums/72157661135958994
>
> Jon
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

Nice Edwin, tour, Clem for your Son and family ride with pizza always a
winner! I like the one Son's style dressed up with Chuck's. Looks like a
great year.

Tail Winds,

~Hugh
On Jan 12, 2016 3:57 PM, "Edwin W"  wrote:

>
> I've got 11 for 2015
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/90785999@N06/albums/72157661149169223
>
> Edwin
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[RBW] Re: iBOB crosspost - thinking about 2nd fork to make Redwood lower trail.

2016-01-12 Thread RonaTD

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:45:30 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:

> I'm considering as a winter project, rebuilding my Riv Redwood as a 
> low-trail 700c bike...My main question is this: What rake would be 
> appropriate for this 700c bike running Compass Barlow Pass (38mm) tires? 
> Headtube is 73 degrees. I'm leaning towards 65mm rake, which would give a 
> trail measurement of 40mm.
>  
>

I had the fork on my original prototype Heron Road pulled to 55 mm, which 
was as far as John Sotherland felt he could take it without risking 
collapse. It only has clearance for 28's. I also have a Terraferma 650B 
ultra low trail bike for comparison. I loved the Heron as designed and 
built, but I like it even better with the extra rake. It can take a light 
load in a handlebar bag and feels like just the right balance of stability 
and responsiveness. I don't feel any need to add more rake than that. By 
comparison, my Terraferma is a very difficult bike to ride no hands, and 
gets worse as weight is added to the front bag. For the sake of science, 
I'm having Waterford make a new fork for that bike, with a bit less rake. 
My hypothesis is that the current fork is not aligned properly, and that a 
fresh, properly aligned fork will make a lot of difference, while the 4mm 
less rake won't make much difference at all.

Keep in mind that a different fork may have a different axle-to-headtube 
dimension, which would change the head angle. Adding more rake changes the 
angle again. If you start with the same length fork and add some rake, you 
will steepen the head angle. A little trig work will tell you by how much. 
I will have to check my archives to see what I calculated the effect is on 
my Heron.

Can you really fit 38's in the Redwood? Sounds like a great bike for the 
vertically enhanced folk.

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[RBW] Re: iBOB crosspost - thinking about 2nd fork to make Redwood lower trail.

2016-01-12 Thread David Banzer

Hi Ted,
The Redwood will fit Compass Barlow Pass tires, mine measure 37mm so 
technically not 38mm. No room for fenders though, and I'm using Tektro 
sidepulls, the bigmouth variety.
The Riv Sam fork (sidepull version) is longer than the Redwood fork, so 
with re-raking I'm hoping it'll get close to the fork length of the 
original fork.
When I first got my Redwood, I tried it with a tall Acorn rando bag and 
didn't care for the handling. If I could improve the handling with a loaded 
front bag, the Redwood would be my ideal road bike. 
David
Chicago


On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 6:27:10 PM UTC-6, RonaTD wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 2:45:30 PM UTC-6, David Banzer wrote:
>  
>
>> I'm considering as a winter project, rebuilding my Riv Redwood as a 
>> low-trail 700c bike...My main question is this: What rake would be 
>> appropriate for this 700c bike running Compass Barlow Pass (38mm) tires? 
>> Headtube is 73 degrees. I'm leaning towards 65mm rake, which would give a 
>> trail measurement of 40mm.
>>  
>>
>
> I had the fork on my original prototype Heron Road pulled to 55 mm, which 
> was as far as John Sotherland felt he could take it without risking 
> collapse. It only has clearance for 28's. I also have a Terraferma 650B 
> ultra low trail bike for comparison. I loved the Heron as designed and 
> built, but I like it even better with the extra rake. It can take a light 
> load in a handlebar bag and feels like just the right balance of stability 
> and responsiveness. I don't feel any need to add more rake than that. By 
> comparison, my Terraferma is a very difficult bike to ride no hands, and 
> gets worse as weight is added to the front bag. For the sake of science, 
> I'm having Waterford make a new fork for that bike, with a bit less rake. 
> My hypothesis is that the current fork is not aligned properly, and that a 
> fresh, properly aligned fork will make a lot of difference, while the 4mm 
> less rake won't make much difference at all.
>
> Keep in mind that a different fork may have a different axle-to-headtube 
> dimension, which would change the head angle. Adding more rake changes the 
> angle again. If you start with the same length fork and add some rake, you 
> will steepen the head angle. A little trig work will tell you by how much. 
> I will have to check my archives to see what I calculated the effect is on 
> my Heron.
>
> Can you really fit 38's in the Redwood? Sounds like a great bike for the 
> vertically enhanced folk.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Whatever else people feel about the long bikes...

2016-01-12 Thread 'Eamon Nordquist' via RBW Owners Bunch

Nick, I had 35mm Winter Marathons last year. Studs all around the profile, 
great reviews from everyone. Bit it quite a few times, they were just 
narrow enough to just follow the ruts. I'd have just enough traction to 
twist the wheels out from under me. I've seen a few nice new models of 650b 
winter studs on the docket I can maybe get next year, but this year my 
choice was basically between a fatter tire with knobbies only, or a thinner 
one with low stud count, and considering how often I went down last year on 
'thin' and high studs, I opted for just the fatter this year. So far, it's 
been better. I imagine fat + studs would be better still. But, for my 
conditions, the fatter has been better than the studs even on ice so far.

On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:53:50 AM UTC-5, NickBull wrote:
>
> Maybe you can sell him some 650B studded tires ...
>
> In my experience, no bike that is just on rubber tires is going to do all 
> that great on rutted ice.  And many models of studded tires don't do all 
> that well on rutted ice, either.  If the studs are only along the 
> centerline, then they only help you climb out of the rut once the tire is 
> nearly perpendicular to the rut.  So that means you have to slide almost 
> far enough to go down before the tire even catches.  I've settled on Nokian 
> Extreme 296's because the studs on the edges of the tire do a good job of 
> catching in ruts.  But even with those tires, there were several patches on 
> last-year's winter commute where the ice was so choppy and the ruts so deep 
> and exactly the width of my tires that I got off and walked a hundred 
> yards, rather than risk going down.  This is winter commuting in DC, where 
> the bike trails that I ride do not get plowed for almost all of my 7-mile 
> winter commute.
>
> On Tuesday, January 12, 2016 at 10:20:20 AM UTC-5, Christopher Wiggins 
> wrote:
>>
>> Great looking bike Zed.  Let me know if you ever need any help.  We're in 
>> Indy, and a Riv dealer.  
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Chris Wiggins
>> Owner
>> A1 Cyclery
>>
>> On Monday, January 11, 2016 at 7:22:43 PM UTC-5, Zed Martinez wrote:
>>>
>>> They certainly rock in the snow and ice. Winter finally decided to show 
>>> up here in Indianapolis so I took the fenders off and threw the knobbies on 
>>> the Clem this weekend. Today was the first commute in the bad weather 
>>> (which in my case means basically a straight mile of unplowed, unsalted 
>>> bumpy ice through the local neighborhoods until I hit the trail)... and 
>>> man, the Clem was a much better ride for it than my previous entries. In 
>>> the past I've leaned mostly on my Felt hybrid with its aluminum frame and 
>>> disc brakes with some 35mm Schwalbe Winter Marathons, but, it was always a 
>>> terrifying white knuckle adventure in riding the bumps and hoping the rear 
>>> wheel didn't decide to kick out from under me while following a rut. Even 
>>> with just regular knobbies (the cheaper versions of Continental's Mountain 
>>> King II what that were the only 650b mountain tires in town...), the Clem 
>>> handled everything much more casually and, importantly, much less 
>>> terrifyingly. I can speak for any other Rivs, this being my first, but it 
>>> really felt like the long wheelbase was definitely helping me out today. I 
>>> was notably less likely to get stuck at the mercy of a rut, and the one 
>>> time I hit a slick patch and the bike started to slide I put my inboard 
>>> foot down (like I always do to be ready to walk off the bike as it goes 
>>> down), and hitting the ground with it was enough to knock the bike back 
>>> upright and reset the rear wheel.The bike regained its balance instantly 
>>> and rolled smoothly on back on a straight track. I've had worse 
>>> experiences, for sure. I also have to say, whatever they toted merits, I'm 
>>> increasingly convinced I won't be going back to disc brakes anytime soon. 
>>> On the Felt I had to ride only the front brake because if I touched the 
>>> rear one even lightly it was enough to slide the rear wheel out (Avid 
>>> mechanicals or Shimano hydraulics both). With the cantis on the Clem I 
>>> never felt like I was lacking stopping when I was on the cleared roads, but 
>>> I had enough modulation to use either judiciously while I was on the icy 
>>> stretch and it made things a lot less worrisome for it.
>>>
>>> And, because pictures rock, obligatory "It's 7ºF, why are you taking a 
>>> picture?" picture.
>>>
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/zedmartinez/23697977403/in/album-72157661103966564/
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

Garth, what thumbshifters do you have that fit Albastaches? They are a road 
diameter bar, and all of the thumbshifters I know of are for mtb diameter bars.

Eamon

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[RBW] Re: Let's see the best of your 2015

2016-01-12 Thread stonehog

Here are my faves from 2015.  Thanks for all the inspiration, folks!

https://flic.kr/s/aHskpctbAo

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA 
www.stonehog.com

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?

i think paul made a 26 thumbie for a while.

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[RBW] Re: Brake Levers for Albastache?