[RBW] Minneapolis Riv dealer

[Sean Kline]

Hi all: I understand that Hiawatha Cyclery in Minneapolis closed. Does 
anyone know if there's a Riv dealer in the Twin Cities now?

I'm debating flying with my Riv or seeking a rental when I arrive. Last 
visit I rode Nice Ride bike share, which was cool but not great for longer 
distances. Any recommendations on bike rental?

Thanks,
Sean

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[RBW] Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Don Compton]

I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
hills.

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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[Jeremy Till]

Grant @ Rivendell wrote:
>
>
>  Putting together a bike (well, frame..) like this and trying to please 
> all is like ordering the same pizza for a table of twenty and nailing 
> perfection for every eater. Ultimately we're going to leave off the 
> pineapple to the dismay of some, and include gorgonzola and anchovies to 
> the delight of a few, and it could be the whole table is nonplussed! 
>
 
Well said, Grant.  Something to remember anytime we get too deep into 
pulling apart the spec of a new bike.  

I, for one, am intrigued by the description of the Roadini, but honestly, I 
already have a "Clemmish road bike" in my recently stripped down and 
drop-barred Long Haul Trucker.  Still, can't wait to see it.  

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[RBW] Beautiful Orange Ram Sighting in Berkeley

[James Warren]

If you're on the forum, cheers and beautiful bike! I'm the guy at the top of 
Spruce who said, "You can spot those Rambouillets from miles away."

Hope you had a good ride.

- James W.

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[RBW] Re: FS Bags, Racks, etc.

[Steve Butcher]

Correction:  The extra set of stays for the Nitto R-10 rear rack are 23 cm 
long.  Should've measured them before listing.  

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 7:47:14 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> Hello, I'm offering for sale the following items I'm not using.  Photos 
> can be sent to interested buyers as needed.  
>
> 1.  Rivendell Saddlesack size medium olive in gently used condition with 
> extra pair of 15 inch Sackville buckle straps- $185.00
> 2.  Nitto R-10 rear rack with extra set of 42 cm stays-$100.00
> 3.  VO Randonneur Front Rack with decaleur kit for 1 inch threaded 
> stem-$90.00
> 4.  VO Rackaleur-$20.00
> 5.  Rivendell Silver Hupe-$20.00
> 6.  Revelate Designs-Jerrycan in digital camo for Regular frame (the 
> velcro on the frame strap has been trimmed to fit a narrow steel frame 
> tube)-$20.00
> 7.  Lesyne XL seat bag in black nylon-$20.00
> 8.  Nitto f-16 front handlebar hook bag supporter-$50.00
>
> All items are in very good condition and prices are plus shipping CONUS.  
> Please send me a PM if you have any questions.  Thanks for looking.  Steve.
>

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[RBW] Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[RichS]

Linda:

Welcome and thank you for such a delightful intro. Your Fleetwing is a sweet 
looking mixte. I admire the passion you have for it and the commitment you've 
made to keep it rolling.

Be warned though. One Riv can lead to another! Hope you enjoy your Clem as much 
as the Fleetwing!

Best regards,
Richard

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[RBW] Jeff Archer, Owner of First Flight Bicycles

[Joe Bernard]

Just awful. There are literally no words to express it. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis update - latest configuration

[René Sterental]

Agreed. Things like bars, saddles, geometry, fit and handling are very
personal. In fact, what isn't? :-)

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> ...and as a data point, I had the exact opposite experience. I missed the
> straight, flat-ish sections on the Noodle bar. The Compass bars have no
> flat area  and my wrists were always at an angle when on the tops. I also
> like to rest my palms on the hoods or hold on to them while climbing. I
> found the drops on the Compass bars did not extend far enough back for me
> and that they were also at an angle that was not super comfy for me. The
> Compass bars were the 42cm size and my Noodles are the 46cm size. I missed
> the leverage of the larger bars when climbing steep hills. I felt I had
> more usable hand positions on the Noodle bar. I am 6'1" and 185lbs, ride
> 61cm Hilsen and use a 9cm Nitto Pearl stem with Cane Creek Aero levers.
>
> Bars are a preference item and my dislike of the Compass bars had nothing
> to do with the quality of the bars (beautiful) or Compass as a business
> (excellent).Simply did not enjoy them.
>
>
> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 1:05:06 PM UTC-4, René wrote:
>
>> Yes, that is correct. My hands can rest on the ramp alone, further back
>> on the curve, or further forward on the hood. For full stretch, I can also
>> grab the hook in the hood with my fists placed vertically. And of course,
>> there is the flat rear upright position. So far I rarely ride on the drops,
>> but can do it for fast descents.
>>
>> Here's a photo:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/27927918153/in/album-72157625129486363/
>>
>> Noodles were my first bars, but I haven't tried them since. I didn't find
>> them that comfortable at the time, but can't say right now how they would
>> feel. It's just that I like the contours of the Randonneur a lot more. I'm
>> using the 42mm, so if anything, I'd have to try the 41 Noodles. The ones I
>> used (and still have for sale) are the 48.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:
>>
>>> Cool update!
>>> Have you used Noodles before? Interesting to see which hou like better,
>>> And Brian chimed in.
>>>
>>> So if i understand correctly, the brake hoods are on the hooks, and your
>>> hands touch only the ramps, not the hoods anymore?
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[RBW] Re: Jeff Archer, Owner of First Flight Bicycles

[Jon in central Colorado]

This is  a very sad tragedy.
Unfortunately it's become an epidemic across the country.Not only for 
cyclists but pedestrians, and other drivers.
Often the drunk driver has 2-10 previous D.U.I.s.
Why are these people still behind the wheel?
You can help call or write your elected officials and tell them the 
penalties for drunk driving are too soft .
Jon

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 7:23:10 AM UTC-6, Montclair BobbyB wrote:

> Not sure if you caught this news, but Jeff Archer was killed last 
> Wednesday while crossing a street in Mooresville, NC.  He was hit by a 
> drunk driver.
>
> Some of you may know Jeff as the founder/curator of MOMBAT (Mountain Bike 
> Museum) and owner of First Flight Bicycles in Statesville, NC.  He also 
> owned Mountain Goat cycles.
> This is a big loss for the cycling community.  I OFTEN refer to the MOMBAT 
> site for information.
>
> He was a great guy, and the world will miss him.  
>
> BB
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[RoadieRyan]

Is it just me or does anyone else look at the name Roadini and think of 
Jawas shouting Utini ! 
?yeah probably just me.  Looking forward to see the design

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 8:34:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The new Riv email introduces a new Clem-ish road bike on the horizon. Cool!

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Re: [RBW] Jeff Archer, Owner of First Flight Bicycles

[Chad]

I saw this over on iBOB.  Very sad indeed!  I just exchanged emails with him a 
couple of months ago regarding info on one of my vintage MTB's.  This seems to 
be happening all too often lately..

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Re: [RBW] F.S. 54cm. Blue Rambouillet frame and fork

[Rod Oconnor]

What a sweet sounding deal... One I'll ponder for a bit though. I'm selling the 
Ram because it's just not the right fit for me plus it's a matter of dollars & 
cents. Contact info: Rod O'Connor 410.746.2019

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> On Jul 25, 2016, at 2:46 PM, Lungimsam  wrote:
> 
> Wanna trade for a blue 52 Hillborne frame?
> 
> I'm in Ellicott City.
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[RBW] F.S. 54cm. Blue Rambouillet frame and fork

[Lungimsam]

Wanna trade for a blue 52 Hillborne frame?

I'm in Ellicott City.

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Re: [RBW] Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[Patrick Moore]

The series is rather cute, as with the Mma Precious Ramotswe series set in
Botswana (No. 1 Ladies' Detective Agency), but I like them; both are well
written, and a nice change from Lee Child!

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:54 AM, LLM  wrote:

>
>> Hi Patrick,
>
> This sounds like a mystery series to track down!  I couldn't hold a candle
> to Ms. Flavia - though oddly enough, I ended up a chemist.  When I was
> eleven I wanted to be Harriet the Spy.
>
> Thanks for the book tip!
>
> Linda
>
>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis update - latest configuration

[Brian Campbell]

...and as a data point, I had the exact opposite experience. I missed the 
straight, flat-ish sections on the Noodle bar. The Compass bars have no 
flat area  and my wrists were always at an angle when on the tops. I also 
like to rest my palms on the hoods or hold on to them while climbing. I 
found the drops on the Compass bars did not extend far enough back for me 
and that they were also at an angle that was not super comfy for me. The 
Compass bars were the 42cm size and my Noodles are the 46cm size. I missed 
the leverage of the larger bars when climbing steep hills. I felt I had 
more usable hand positions on the Noodle bar. I am 6'1" and 185lbs, ride 
61cm Hilsen and use a 9cm Nitto Pearl stem with Cane Creek Aero levers.

Bars are a preference item and my dislike of the Compass bars had nothing 
to do with the quality of the bars (beautiful) or Compass as a business 
(excellent).Simply did not enjoy them.


On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 1:05:06 PM UTC-4, René wrote:

> Yes, that is correct. My hands can rest on the ramp alone, further back on 
> the curve, or further forward on the hood. For full stretch, I can also 
> grab the hook in the hood with my fists placed vertically. And of course, 
> there is the flat rear upright position. So far I rarely ride on the drops, 
> but can do it for fast descents.
>
> Here's a photo: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/27927918153/in/album-72157625129486363/
>
> Noodles were my first bars, but I haven't tried them since. I didn't find 
> them that comfortable at the time, but can't say right now how they would 
> feel. It's just that I like the contours of the Randonneur a lot more. I'm 
> using the 42mm, so if anything, I'd have to try the 41 Noodles. The ones I 
> used (and still have for sale) are the 48.
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Lungimsam  > wrote:
>
>> Cool update!
>> Have you used Noodles before? Interesting to see which hou like better, 
>> And Brian chimed in.
>>
>> So if i understand correctly, the brake hoods are on the hooks, and your 
>> hands touch only the ramps, not the hoods anymore?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

Hi Shoji,

I was born in Boston and still have many roots and memories there!  The 
1000+ miles I put on the Fleetwing as a teen were on 3 roads in Norfolk, 
MA, where I did most of my growing up.  I ended up at Ferris Wheels in 
Jamaica Plain because they carry Brooklyn Bicycle Co. bikes.  Their Willow 
3 and 7 were on my short list when I was shopping for a step-through.  
(Grant P. gave BBC bicycle design advice, which impressed me.  In the end, 
I opted to pay more and get the "real thing"!)  I thought I was going to 
have to turn the Fleetwing into wall art until I talked to Jeffrey Ferris, 
and thenwell, you know the story!

I want to check out the new bikeway around Boston sometime.  Maybe we can 
make it a Riv outing.  :-)

Linda


On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> Linda,
> I love this story! You're of Albany NY, but have bike-work with Boston 
> roots. Hope to cross bike paths with you in the Boston area on that 
> Fleetwing or Clem.
>
> Tailwinds,
> shoji
>
 

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

Hi Shoji,

I was born in Boston and still have many roots and memories there!  The 
1000+ miles I put on the Fleetwing as a teen were on 3 roads in Norfolk, 
MA, where I did most of my growing up.  I ended up at Ferris Wheels in 
Jamaica Plain because they carry Brooklyn Bicycle Co. bikes.  Their Willow 
3 and 7 were on my short list when I was shopping for a step-through.  
(Grant P. gave BBC bicycle design advice, which impressed me.  In the end, 
I opted to pay more and get the "real thing"!)  I thought I was going to 
have to turn the Fleetwing into wall art until I talked to Jeffrey Ferris, 
and thenwell, you know the story!

I want to check out the new bikeway around Boston sometime.  Maybe we can 
make it a Riv outing.  :-)

Linda

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:33:29 AM UTC-4, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

> Linda,
> I love this story! You're of Albany NY, but have bike-work with Boston 
> roots. Hope to cross bike paths with you in the Boston area on that 
> Fleetwing or Clem.
>
> Tailwinds,
> shoji
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 10:15:07 PM UTC-4, LLM wrote:
>>
>> HI, I'm Linda of Albany, NY.  I've posted a few times here and have 
>> enjoyed reading for several months.  This is a longish post that serves as 
>> a bit of an introduction to where I'm coming from.
>>
>> I pre-ordered a Clem L-Style complete this spring in-between hip 
>> replacement surgeries.  The Clem will take the place of my Surly Disk 
>> Trucker, which I will probably sell.  Dreaming about riding a bike again 
>> after 2 years of not being able was a great source of inspiration and hope 
>> for me.  Two weeks after the second surgery (early May), and with help from 
>> a curb at the side of a parking lot, I climbed back on my 1970 Fleetwing 
>> English 3-speed to enjoy an exhilaratingly pain-free ride.  (There will 
>> hopefully be a photo of the bike sporting my new MultiSack and a Wald 
>> Folding Basket.)
>>
>> The Fleetwing came to me almost unused when I was in my early teens.  I 
>> proceeded to ride the snot out of the bike, logging well over 1000 miles 
>> over the 3-4 mile stretch of country roads I had permission from my mom to 
>> ride.  There was a long hill about 1/4 mile from my house that I would fly 
>> down over and over again just for the thrill of going as fast as I could. 
>>  My father surprised me 5 years ago when he pulled the old bike out from 
>> under a tarp and asked me if I'd like to take it  It was like a reunion 
>> with an old friend.
>>
>> The bike clearly needed some work.  My prior experience was limited to 
>> tire changes and minor adjustments.  Fortunately, a Google search took me 
>> straight to Sheldon's page on "Servicing English Three-Speeds."  He gives 
>> the Fleetwing a one-line mention:
>>
>> "Fleetwing - A house brand of Boston's Jordan Marsh department store 
>> chain."
>>
>>
>> The woman who passed the bike to me was a personal friend of the wife of 
>> the owner of Jordan Marsh.  I believe it was a Phillips model that Raleigh 
>> continued to build after swallowing Phillips.  The Fleetwing has the 
>> characteristic Raleigh dropouts (according to Sheldon) and wacky Raleigh 
>> threading.
>>
>> Sheldon's site gave me the assurance I needed that the bike was worth 
>> fixing.  So I learned about cottered cranks and got a cottered crank tool 
>> from BIkesmith on my way to the busted bottom bracket.I think I ordered 
>> Phil Wood bearing grease from Rivendell.  Got new bearings and assorted 
>> tools from my LBS.  A set of Panaracer Col de le Vies didn't fit under the 
>> fenders.  A set of Continental World Tours did.  I added transmission fluid 
>> to the Sturmey Archer hub; eventually the pawls started ticking again.  My 
>> first test ride put a familiar big smile on my face.
>>
>> Sometime later, after my first terrifying attempt to stop the bike going 
>> downhill in the rain, I sprung for a new set of alloy wheels from Harris 
>> that included a modern SA 3-speed Hub.  At the same time, I upgraded the 
>> brakes to some long-reach Tektro side-pulls.  To make room for the modern 
>> hub, I spread the rear dropouts Sheldon-style, with a caliper, a long 2x4, 
>> a chair and patience.  It worked.  Outside of a slightly bent front fork 
>> which made the front end twitchy, I ended up with a great city bike.  A 
>> couple of months ago, in the course of conversation with Jeffrey Ferris of 
>> "Ferris Wheels" in Boston, Jeff offered to look at the fork ("We are an old 
>> school shop with old school tools and old school skills!").  The fork 
>> couldn't be saved, but a shiny new chrome fork has resolved all of the 
>> handling challenges.  Handling has risen to a new level of importance now 
>> that I have a mid-range Subaru's worth of fancy hardware (not counting cost 
>> of installation) where my hip joints used to be!
>>
>> One of my goals at the outset of the Fleetwing project was to learn 
>> enough about bikes to be able to make an informed decision about purchasing 

Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini

[James Warren]

One correction: the granny/grandpa chainring on the complete Ram was 26T, not 
24T, as I just wrote.

Still, lowest geared road bike you could get stock.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 25, 2016, at 10:08 AM, James Warren  wrote:
> 
> .
>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not 100% familiar with the older models. Was the Rambouillet sold as a 
>>> complete? 
>> 
>> no
> There was a brief period where the Rambouillet (blue) was sold complete. I 
> have the brochure.
> 
> It replaced the Romulus/Redwood complete when Riv decided it was too much to 
> sell both Ram framesets AND Romulus/Redwood bikes.
> 
> This was a bit over ten years ago, I think. Riv made an announcement online 
> that the Ram was being discontinued, and they would just offer Romulus (and 
> maybe Redwood?) at it's great price, complete. The public outcry over this 
> was loud (within our subculture). Whether responding to the outcry or not, 
> Riv changed the plan and decided to end the bike named "Romulus" (and 
> Redwood), and instead created a complete Ram bike offering to go alongside 
> the Ram frameset. The parts on it were much like the Rom, maybe identical: 
> 46-36-24 crank, Shimano long reach Tiagra brakes, indexed 9-speed triple, 
> Barend shifters. Tires were 28, I believe. I think the price was a bit higher 
> than Rom price from before, but still a very good deal. (Ram frame's details 
> made it a little fancier than Rom, while functionally about the same.) The 
> Ram bike was offered in even sizes, including 64, 66, and 68 cm. The brochure 
> is very nice, which is why I saved it. The cover shows the bike being ridden 
> as a road bike on a dirt road. Idyllic. There is a parts list in the brochure.
> 
> A Riv classic! Ram (bike or frame) was sidelined a few years later partly by 
> the easy ability to do even bigger tires on a road bike, an ease which was 
> enhanced by brakes like the Silver, the Tektro 559, and some by Paul. The Ram 
> was not made for the reach of these exciting new brakes that Riv was focusing 
> on, and around '07-08, the AHH started to nudge it out of the lineup by 
> virtue of AHH's versatility through tire clearance. No, they are not the same 
> frame, but Riv could only offer so much, so they took things in the direction 
> of bigger tires and put the Ram to sleep. It woke up once very briefly (a 
> last small batch), and has been sleeping for 7 or 8 years since.
> 
> In Ram's absence, AHH and Hillborne clearly performed the duty of 
> versatile/efficient bike, but the other side of Ram's personality, that of 
> "road bike" was not in the Riv lineup for a couple of years. This was void 
> was filled starting in early 2010 or so with the Roadeo.
> 
> -James W.
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini

[James Warren]

.
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 4:41 AM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm not 100% familiar with the older models. Was the Rambouillet sold as a 
>> complete?
> 
> no
There was a brief period where the Rambouillet (blue) was sold complete. I have 
the brochure.

It replaced the Romulus/Redwood complete when Riv decided it was too much to 
sell both Ram framesets AND Romulus/Redwood bikes.

This was a bit over ten years ago, I think. Riv made an announcement online 
that the Ram was being discontinued, and they would just offer Romulus (and 
maybe Redwood?) at it's great price, complete. The public outcry over this was 
loud (within our subculture). Whether responding to the outcry or not, Riv 
changed the plan and decided to end the bike named "Romulus" (and Redwood), and 
instead created a complete Ram bike offering to go alongside the Ram frameset. 
The parts on it were much like the Rom, maybe identical: 46-36-24 crank, 
Shimano long reach Tiagra brakes, indexed 9-speed triple, Barend shifters. 
Tires were 28, I believe. I think the price was a bit higher than Rom price 
from before, but still a very good deal. (Ram frame's details made it a little 
fancier than Rom, while functionally about the same.) The Ram bike was offered 
in even sizes, including 64, 66, and 68 cm. The brochure is very nice, which is 
why I saved it. The cover shows the bike being ridden as a road bike on a dirt 
road. Idyllic. There is a parts list in the brochure.

A Riv classic! Ram (bike or frame) was sidelined a few years later partly by 
the easy ability to do even bigger tires on a road bike, an ease which was 
enhanced by brakes like the Silver, the Tektro 559, and some by Paul. The Ram 
was not made for the reach of these exciting new brakes that Riv was focusing 
on, and around '07-08, the AHH started to nudge it out of the lineup by virtue 
of AHH's versatility through tire clearance. No, they are not the same frame, 
but Riv could only offer so much, so they took things in the direction of 
bigger tires and put the Ram to sleep. It woke up once very briefly (a last 
small batch), and has been sleeping for 7 or 8 years since.

In Ram's absence, AHH and Hillborne clearly performed the duty of 
versatile/efficient bike, but the other side of Ram's personality, that of 
"road bike" was not in the Riv lineup for a couple of years. This was void was 
filled starting in early 2010 or so with the Roadeo.

-James W.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis update - latest configuration

[René Sterental]

Yes, that is correct. My hands can rest on the ramp alone, further back on
the curve, or further forward on the hood. For full stretch, I can also
grab the hook in the hood with my fists placed vertically. And of course,
there is the flat rear upright position. So far I rarely ride on the drops,
but can do it for fast descents.

Here's a photo:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/orthie251/27927918153/in/album-72157625129486363/

Noodles were my first bars, but I haven't tried them since. I didn't find
them that comfortable at the time, but can't say right now how they would
feel. It's just that I like the contours of the Randonneur a lot more. I'm
using the 42mm, so if anything, I'd have to try the 41 Noodles. The ones I
used (and still have for sale) are the 48.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Lungimsam  wrote:

> Cool update!
> Have you used Noodles before? Interesting to see which hou like better,
> And Brian chimed in.
>
> So if i understand correctly, the brake hoods are on the hooks, and your
> hands touch only the ramps, not the hoods anymore?
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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

Hi Michael,
For me, part of the magic of the English 3-speed is in the trigger 
shifter!  I like the simplicity of the 3-speed, and find the range 
acceptable - though I did change to a bigger cog in the back to make it 
more amenable to the hills we have around here as well as to the stop and 
go of city riding.  Also, Harris Cyclery 
 offers the 
wheels with the hub at a reasonable price.  It was easy!
Linda


On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 6:58:20 AM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

> Wonderful.  Back to riding and a childhood friend returned.  Beautiful. 
>  When I read it I did wonder a bit why you didn't simply put an 8 or 9 
> speed hub?  Nostalgia or a desire to be true to the bikes history I guessed?
> Michael
>
>> 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

>
>
> Hi Patrick,

This sounds like a mystery series to track down!  I couldn't hold a candle 
to Ms. Flavia - though oddly enough, I ended up a chemist.  When I was 
eleven I wanted to be Harriet the Spy.

Thanks for the book tip!

Linda

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LLM]

>
> Wow!  Thanks so much for the warm welcome and positive feedback.  I'm glad 
> folks enjoyed the story.  I will post pics of the new Clem-L when I can.  
> If I can track down the pics I took of the newly opened Fleetwing bottom 
> bracket with bits of hay from the barn we parked the bikes in when I was a 
> kid, I will post them, too!
>

-Linda 

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Chronicles

[masmojo]

Honestly,  I prefer the albatross for all around riding,  Bosco's are fine, but 
they are even more sensitive to bar height adjustment.  Just raising mine 1/4" 
was a huge improvement and difference in feel. Additionally,  they might not 
feel as good on your bike as they do on your husband's.
Maybe you could do a short term swap!? 

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Re: [RBW] WTT/WTB: Ergon Bio Cork Size large

[Jeff Lesperance]

GP or GC - I'm pretty sure I have a set of the GC1 model in my parts bin
but I'm away from it for a few days before I could confirm.

On Monday, July 25, 2016, Brian Campbell  wrote:

> Looking for a set of these in size large, non-grip shift. Let me know and
> thanks!
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[RBW] Re: Atlantis update - latest configuration

[Lungimsam]

Cool update!
Have you used Noodles before? Interesting to see which hou like better, And 
Brian chimed in.

So if i understand correctly, the brake hoods are on the hooks, and your hands 
touch only the ramps, not the hoods anymore?

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Chronicles

[Leah Peterson]

Excellent point. I think my Albatrosses cause a fair amount of lean. I say so 
because I feel like my elbows are locked and after a long ride, they’re stiff 
and I have to sit up and use my fingertips to grip the bar. I’ll call Riv today 
and maybe they can give me all the mystical answers I seek.
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 8:37 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Leah, I didn't like the Boscos on my 45 Clem - the height and reach-back 
> cramped the cockpit for me - but they were great on the 52 Clem I rode at 
> RBW. If you have a good amount of lean into your Albas then these bars will 
> work; if you're already sitting bolt upright, then Boscos will exaggerate 
> that sensation too much. 
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[RBW] WTT/WTB: Ergon Bio Cork Size large

[Brian Campbell]

Looking for a set of these in size large, non-grip shift. Let me know and 
thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Atlantis update - latest configuration

[Brian Campbell]

Nice update. I am glad to hear things are working for you. I too, had a 
bear of a time getting those Compass Rando bars and Nitto shims installed 
in a 26.0 stem. There was much cursing, fretting about scratching and 
ultimately, scratching. Turns out, I did not like the Compass bars more 
than my Noodles and they have moved to another home. Probably best to just 
order a 25.4 stem when you order the Compass bars.

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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Chronicles

[Joe Bernard]

Leah, I didn't like the Boscos on my 45 Clem - the height and reach-back 
cramped the cockpit for me - but they were great on the 52 Clem I rode at RBW. 
If you have a good amount of lean into your Albas then these bars will work; if 
you're already sitting bolt upright, then Boscos will exaggerate that sensation 
too much. 

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Re: [RBW] Jeff Archer, Owner of First Flight Bicycles

[René Sterental]

Sad news. Very sorry to hear that.

René

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:

> Not sure if you caught this news, but Jeff Archer was killed last
> Wednesday while crossing a street in Mooresville, NC.  He was hit by a
> drunk driver.
>
> Some of you may know Jeff as the founder/curator of MOMBAT (Mountain Bike
> Museum) and owner of First Flight Bicycles in Statesville, NC.  He also
> owned Mountain Goat cycles.
> This is a big loss for the cycling community.  I OFTEN refer to the MOMBAT
> site for information.
>
> He was a great guy, and the world will miss him.
>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: MKS urban pedals

[Ryan Fleming]

MKS Stream pedals are a nice option...no flip tab but there are teeth on 
both sides of the pedal and they're narrow...they may be a little  narrower 
than Sylvans  - about the width of high-grade MKS NJS models.Amazon has 
them as does Harris Cyclery for under $30.00. Bearings tend to be on the 
tight side...lube and adjustment may be required but otherwise they're very 
nice pedals. 

However, if you have wide feet...not so much of a good option

Ryan Fleming - Winnipeg

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:22:01 AM UTC-5, Joey Korkames wrote:
>
> I second your assessment of the buttery smooth bearings.
> They feel like premium racing pedals and look great on any era of bike.
>
> One could always amputate the outer vanes of the flip tab with a hacksaw 
> and file if its too much.
>
> On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 2:37:13 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I sold my pair, but while the Urbans are far better in quality than the 
>> GR 9s -- bearings and body are very good quality -- I disliked the larger 
>> flip tab -- the size actually made it harder to get into the straps. I now 
>> use a pair of GR 9s on the Dahon, and they work (for me) much better. FWIW.
>>
>> I see that MKS has a GR 10 model, that looks much like the 9. How is 
>> their quality compared to the Urbans (almost as good as the Keirin quality 
>> track pedals) and to the 9s (entry level)?
>>
>> (Bearings on the 9s: I basically dribble thick oil into the bearings, 
>> then let use wear them in to smoothness. The track pedal bearings are the 
>> best I've ever seen.)
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Ryan Ray  wrote:
>>
>>> I decided to just go with toe clips and my old sylvan pedals due to 
>>> being very clumsy off bike and constantly shredding my ankles and shins 
>>> with VP spiky platforms. Toe clips work better for me while spinning anyway.
>>>
>>> Looking to upgrade my sylvans though and get a bit narrower as well and 
>>> checking to see if anyone has these MKS urban platforms sitting around.
>>>
>>> - Ryan in Seattle
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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Chronicles

[LeahFoy]

Joe - which bar did you prefer on your Clem? (I know you didn't have your Clem 
long, but still...) And if you're correct and my shifters will transfer to the 
Bosco bar, all the better. I LOVE the look of my silver shifters and nothing 
else will do.

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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[Grant @ Rivendell]

Roadini will be more of a "Slim CLEM" road bike. We'll toe the line (as 
I've said) btw useful braze-ons and "sending the wrong message about what 
the bike is for" braze-ons—and the same for clearances/tire compatibility. 
<---those will be Roadeo-like. 

The Rambouillet and Romulus were lugged to the teeth, and that can't happen 
with a lowISH cost bike. Lugs are so so much more expensive to buy and 
build with, and yet we're not going to make a generic TIG bike, so we'll 
have some expensive crafty stuff on it, too.

 Putting together a bike (well, frame..) like this and trying to please all 
is like ordering the same pizza for a table of twenty and nailing 
perfection for every eater. Ultimately we're going to leave off the 
pineapple to the dismay of some, and include gorgonzola and anchovies to 
the delight of a few, and it could be the whole table is nonplussed! 

But---I promise there will be a reason for everything there and missing, 
and if you either already have a road bike and love it, or don't have one 
but are curious, the Roadini will worth a look at. OK now--that's enough 
"balls in the air" for now. We have too much going on. G

On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 8:34:34 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The new Riv email introduces a new Clem-ish road bike on the horizon. Cool!

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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[LeahFoy]

Just the flavor of romantic tale I love to read! I can't wait for you to get 
your Clem L and regal us with ALL the photos and ALL the words. I rode my 
mother-in-law's new Clementine on vacation this summer and it was a delight in 
every sense of the word. May yours be just the same.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Cantilever Brake Levers (pair), Polished silver // Nitto Quill Stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach // Nitto Technomic stem

[Philip Kim]

Stem sold. Rack adapter and Paul cantos left

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[RBW] WTTry Soma Gator Bar

[Conway Bennett]

Anyone have a gently used Gator Bar they're wanting to part with?  I'm doing 
some h'bar experimenting and would like to test out dirt drops.  Thanks in 
advance.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Rivendell Simpleone $1200 shipped, and more (thinning the herd)

[CharlieG]

Hi John

What's the rough stand over height on the SimpleOne - I can't find a geometry 
chart anywhere that includes stand over. Rusty trigonometry indicates about 
91cm, but I could be well off. 

Second and possibly more problematic question - would you be prepared to post 
it internationally (for some extra money, of course). 

Cheers

Charlie

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Re: [RBW] WTB: MKS urban pedals

[Joey Korkames]

I second your assessment of the buttery smooth bearings.
They feel like premium racing pedals and look great on any era of bike.

One could always amputate the outer vanes of the flip tab with a hacksaw 
and file if its too much.

On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 2:37:13 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I sold my pair, but while the Urbans are far better in quality than the GR 
> 9s -- bearings and body are very good quality -- I disliked the larger flip 
> tab -- the size actually made it harder to get into the straps. I now use a 
> pair of GR 9s on the Dahon, and they work (for me) much better. FWIW.
>
> I see that MKS has a GR 10 model, that looks much like the 9. How is their 
> quality compared to the Urbans (almost as good as the Keirin quality track 
> pedals) and to the 9s (entry level)?
>
> (Bearings on the 9s: I basically dribble thick oil into the bearings, then 
> let use wear them in to smoothness. The track pedal bearings are the best 
> I've ever seen.)
>
> On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Ryan Ray  > wrote:
>
>> I decided to just go with toe clips and my old sylvan pedals due to being 
>> very clumsy off bike and constantly shredding my ankles and shins with VP 
>> spiky platforms. Toe clips work better for me while spinning anyway.
>>
>> Looking to upgrade my sylvans though and get a bit narrower as well and 
>> checking to see if anyone has these MKS urban platforms sitting around.
>>
>> - Ryan in Seattle
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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[Shoji Takahashi]

Linda,
I love this story! You're of Albany NY, but have bike-work with Boston 
roots. Hope to cross bike paths with you in the Boston area on that 
Fleetwing or Clem.

Tailwinds,
shoji




On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 10:15:07 PM UTC-4, LLM wrote:
>
> HI, I'm Linda of Albany, NY.  I've posted a few times here and have 
> enjoyed reading for several months.  This is a longish post that serves as 
> a bit of an introduction to where I'm coming from.
>
> I pre-ordered a Clem L-Style complete this spring in-between hip 
> replacement surgeries.  The Clem will take the place of my Surly Disk 
> Trucker, which I will probably sell.  Dreaming about riding a bike again 
> after 2 years of not being able was a great source of inspiration and hope 
> for me.  Two weeks after the second surgery (early May), and with help from 
> a curb at the side of a parking lot, I climbed back on my 1970 Fleetwing 
> English 3-speed to enjoy an exhilaratingly pain-free ride.  (There will 
> hopefully be a photo of the bike sporting my new MultiSack and a Wald 
> Folding Basket.)
>
> The Fleetwing came to me almost unused when I was in my early teens.  I 
> proceeded to ride the snot out of the bike, logging well over 1000 miles 
> over the 3-4 mile stretch of country roads I had permission from my mom to 
> ride.  There was a long hill about 1/4 mile from my house that I would fly 
> down over and over again just for the thrill of going as fast as I could. 
>  My father surprised me 5 years ago when he pulled the old bike out from 
> under a tarp and asked me if I'd like to take it  It was like a reunion 
> with an old friend.
>
> The bike clearly needed some work.  My prior experience was limited to 
> tire changes and minor adjustments.  Fortunately, a Google search took me 
> straight to Sheldon's page on "Servicing English Three-Speeds."  He gives 
> the Fleetwing a one-line mention:
>
> "Fleetwing - A house brand of Boston's Jordan Marsh department store 
> chain."
>
>
> The woman who passed the bike to me was a personal friend of the wife of 
> the owner of Jordan Marsh.  I believe it was a Phillips model that Raleigh 
> continued to build after swallowing Phillips.  The Fleetwing has the 
> characteristic Raleigh dropouts (according to Sheldon) and wacky Raleigh 
> threading.
>
> Sheldon's site gave me the assurance I needed that the bike was worth 
> fixing.  So I learned about cottered cranks and got a cottered crank tool 
> from BIkesmith on my way to the busted bottom bracket.I think I ordered 
> Phil Wood bearing grease from Rivendell.  Got new bearings and assorted 
> tools from my LBS.  A set of Panaracer Col de le Vies didn't fit under the 
> fenders.  A set of Continental World Tours did.  I added transmission fluid 
> to the Sturmey Archer hub; eventually the pawls started ticking again.  My 
> first test ride put a familiar big smile on my face.
>
> Sometime later, after my first terrifying attempt to stop the bike going 
> downhill in the rain, I sprung for a new set of alloy wheels from Harris 
> that included a modern SA 3-speed Hub.  At the same time, I upgraded the 
> brakes to some long-reach Tektro side-pulls.  To make room for the modern 
> hub, I spread the rear dropouts Sheldon-style, with a caliper, a long 2x4, 
> a chair and patience.  It worked.  Outside of a slightly bent front fork 
> which made the front end twitchy, I ended up with a great city bike.  A 
> couple of months ago, in the course of conversation with Jeffrey Ferris of 
> "Ferris Wheels" in Boston, Jeff offered to look at the fork ("We are an old 
> school shop with old school tools and old school skills!").  The fork 
> couldn't be saved, but a shiny new chrome fork has resolved all of the 
> handling challenges.  Handling has risen to a new level of importance now 
> that I have a mid-range Subaru's worth of fancy hardware (not counting cost 
> of installation) where my hip joints used to be!
>
> One of my goals at the outset of the Fleetwing project was to learn enough 
> about bikes to be able to make an informed decision about purchasing a new 
> bike.  I ended up with the Surly.  The Clem L-Style is an obvious 
> successor.  While I wait to hear from RBW that they are shipping my new 
> bike to me, I continue to pedal around town on my first bicycle love, the 
> Fleetwing.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Cantilever Brake Levers (pair), Polished silver // Nitto Quill Stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach // Nitto Technomic stem

[Philip Kim]

Got it thanks.

Neo Retro front, Touring Canti rear, polished silver, tektro alloy hangers, 
no straddle cable though *$135 shipped CONUS for the pair.*

Paul Rack Adapters, brand new *$20 shipped conus*

Nitto UI-12 quill stem. 31.8 clamp, 90 degree angle, 80mm reach* $45 
shipped CONUS*

*still available.*

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:10:41 AM UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> I'll take the nugz and levers. Can't reply private because on mobile. 
>
> Thanks
> Daniel
>

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[RBW] Jeff Archer, Owner of First Flight Bicycles

[Montclair BobbyB]

Not sure if you caught this news, but Jeff Archer was killed last Wednesday 
while crossing a street in Mooresville, NC.  He was hit by a drunk driver.

Some of you may know Jeff as the founder/curator of MOMBAT (Mountain Bike 
Museum) and owner of First Flight Bicycles in Statesville, NC.  He also 
owned Mountain Goat cycles.
This is a big loss for the cycling community.  I OFTEN refer to the MOMBAT 
site for information.

He was a great guy, and the world will miss him.  

BB

 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Cantilever Brake Levers (pair), Polished silver // Nitto Quill Stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach // Nitto Technomic stem

[Daniel Jackson]

I'll take the nugz and levers. Can't reply private because on mobile. 

Thanks
Daniel

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[RBW] Re: FS: Paul Cantilever Brake Levers (pair), Polished silver // Nitto Quill Stem 31.8 clamp, 80mm reach // Nitto Technomic stem

[Philip Kim]

Price drop

Neo Retro front, Touring Canti rear, polished silver, tektro alloy hangers, 
no straddle cable though *$135 shipped CONUS for the pair.*

Paul Brake levers (pair), polished silver, short pull for road calipers, 
cantilever brakes, road disc, etc. Will not work for V-brake types. Almost 
new, couple of rides *$88 shipped CONUS*

Hunter Nugz , these 
are brake cable adjusters specifically for Paul Brakes. Almost new. Looks 
like you can't buy these anymore? *$20 shipped CONUS*

Paul Rack Adapters, brand new *$20 shipped conus*

Nitto UI-12 quill stem. 31.8 clamp, 90 degree angle, 80mm reach* $45 
shipped CONUS*


On Tuesday, July 19, 2016 at 1:39:15 PM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Made some changes to my Hunq, so selling off some of the stuff - most of 
> it almost new. Pictures upon request, please message me off-list. All 
> prices include shipping CONUS.
>
> Paul Cantilever Brake Levers (short pull). These are polished silver, 
> switched my Hunq to V-brakes so no longer need these. $100 shipped.
>
> Nitto UI-12 quill stem. 31.8 clamp, 90 degree angle, 80mm reach. Had these 
> as a holdover to use my Jones bars on the Hunq, until I got a custom stem 
> made. Custom stem is now back from the plating shop, so no longer need this 
> stem. $55 shipped.
>
> Nitto Technomic, 26.0 clamp, 70mm - Got this for my BDB Pelican, but 
> needed something shorter. Brand new - $38 shipped.
>
> Also might be interested in selling Paul Canti pair (one touring canti, 
> one neo retro canti) polished silver. Will also include the Hunter Cycles 
> "Nugz" - cable barrel adjusters made specifically for Paul Cantis. $165 
> shipped.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini

[Steve Palincsar]

On 07/25/2016 01:07 AM, dstein wrote:
I'm not 100% familiar with the older models. Was the Rambouillet sold 
as a complete?


no

Was that the one that was through QBP or something and sold at bike 
shops across the country?


no



I think the Roadini will be a huge hit. There's a really big market 
for people that want a Rivendell at a lower price tag, especially a 
road bike w/ drop bars. Big draw for new Rivendell customers hoping 
for something at a lower price tag (though I'm sure there are bunch of 
people on here with a Rivendell or two already that are interested).


On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 8:24:23 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:

Oddly, other than that "one groovy feature" part, Grant's
description sounded to me like he was describing the Rambouillet
to a T.  It also originated as a way to bring a Riv road bike to
the masses at a more affordable price point.  My hunch is that
this might be the one model that you'd be hard pressed to justify,
if you already own a Ram.




that was my thought as well, right down to the soul-searching about rack 
support braze-ons


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Re: [RBW] Handlebar Chronicles

[Eric Daume]

Why would anyone buy the bullmoose version of the Bosco, though? Loosing
the adjustability of the stem length and angle is a huge price to pay for
the retro vibe.

Eric

On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 10:53 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Leah, I believe the 52 Clem and 55 Betty have similar toptube lengths, so
> you should theoretically be able to replicate the riding position with his
> Bosco Bullmoose model on your bike. The pics I've seen of your bikes show
> that the stem length is similar with both bars you've ridden. Your levers
> and shifters will transfer easily, but you may need linger cables. I've run
> both bars on my Clem, and Boscos are TALL.
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[RBW] Re: Intro.....my humble roots, with some Riv content

[Michael Hechmer]

Wonderful.  Back to riding and a childhood friend returned.  Beautiful. 
 When I read it I did wonder a bit why you didn't simply put an 8 or 9 
speed hub?  Nostalgia or a desire to be true to the bikes history I guessed?
Michael

On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 10:15:07 PM UTC-4, LLM wrote:
>
> HI, I'm Linda of Albany, NY.  I've posted a few times here and have 
> enjoyed reading for several months.  This is a longish post that serves as 
> a bit of an introduction to where I'm coming from.
>
> I pre-ordered a Clem L-Style complete this spring in-between hip 
> replacement surgeries.  The Clem will take the place of my Surly Disk 
> Trucker, which I will probably sell.  Dreaming about riding a bike again 
> after 2 years of not being able was a great source of inspiration and hope 
> for me.  Two weeks after the second surgery (early May), and with help from 
> a curb at the side of a parking lot, I climbed back on my 1970 Fleetwing 
> English 3-speed to enjoy an exhilaratingly pain-free ride.  (There will 
> hopefully be a photo of the bike sporting my new MultiSack and a Wald 
> Folding Basket.)
>
> The Fleetwing came to me almost unused when I was in my early teens.  I 
> proceeded to ride the snot out of the bike, logging well over 1000 miles 
> over the 3-4 mile stretch of country roads I had permission from my mom to 
> ride.  There was a long hill about 1/4 mile from my house that I would fly 
> down over and over again just for the thrill of going as fast as I could. 
>  My father surprised me 5 years ago when he pulled the old bike out from 
> under a tarp and asked me if I'd like to take it  It was like a reunion 
> with an old friend.
>
> The bike clearly needed some work.  My prior experience was limited to 
> tire changes and minor adjustments.  Fortunately, a Google search took me 
> straight to Sheldon's page on "Servicing English Three-Speeds."  He gives 
> the Fleetwing a one-line mention:
>
> "Fleetwing - A house brand of Boston's Jordan Marsh department store 
> chain."
>
>
> The woman who passed the bike to me was a personal friend of the wife of 
> the owner of Jordan Marsh.  I believe it was a Phillips model that Raleigh 
> continued to build after swallowing Phillips.  The Fleetwing has the 
> characteristic Raleigh dropouts (according to Sheldon) and wacky Raleigh 
> threading.
>
> Sheldon's site gave me the assurance I needed that the bike was worth 
> fixing.  So I learned about cottered cranks and got a cottered crank tool 
> from BIkesmith on my way to the busted bottom bracket.I think I ordered 
> Phil Wood bearing grease from Rivendell.  Got new bearings and assorted 
> tools from my LBS.  A set of Panaracer Col de le Vies didn't fit under the 
> fenders.  A set of Continental World Tours did.  I added transmission fluid 
> to the Sturmey Archer hub; eventually the pawls started ticking again.  My 
> first test ride put a familiar big smile on my face.
>
> Sometime later, after my first terrifying attempt to stop the bike going 
> downhill in the rain, I sprung for a new set of alloy wheels from Harris 
> that included a modern SA 3-speed Hub.  At the same time, I upgraded the 
> brakes to some long-reach Tektro side-pulls.  To make room for the modern 
> hub, I spread the rear dropouts Sheldon-style, with a caliper, a long 2x4, 
> a chair and patience.  It worked.  Outside of a slightly bent front fork 
> which made the front end twitchy, I ended up with a great city bike.  A 
> couple of months ago, in the course of conversation with Jeffrey Ferris of 
> "Ferris Wheels" in Boston, Jeff offered to look at the fork ("We are an old 
> school shop with old school tools and old school skills!").  The fork 
> couldn't be saved, but a shiny new chrome fork has resolved all of the 
> handling challenges.  Handling has risen to a new level of importance now 
> that I have a mid-range Subaru's worth of fancy hardware (not counting cost 
> of installation) where my hip joints used to be!
>
> One of my goals at the outset of the Fleetwing project was to learn enough 
> about bikes to be able to make an informed decision about purchasing a new 
> bike.  I ended up with the Surly.  The Clem L-Style is an obvious 
> successor.  While I wait to hear from RBW that they are shipping my new 
> bike to me, I continue to pedal around town on my first bicycle love, the 
> Fleetwing.
>

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[RBW] Re: Shout out for Grant and Co. Customer Service...

[Matt B.]

Beautiful pictures.  In the second one it looks like a QB sprouted among 
the birches.  I have some great all-around/grocery-capable bikes, but the 
quickbeam is definitely the best for riding in the woods and enjoying the 
sounds of the birds, frogs, katydids, etc.  Also great bike for riding back 
from a long day on the trails.


On Saturday, July 23, 2016 at 7:44:17 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Because of the mechanicles on the Quickbeam (as described at the top of 
> this thread, and which are thankfully resolved now), I hadn't done any but 
> shortish test rides in a wee while. Today I joyously took the Quickbeam out 
> on a longer ride to Rampart Reservoir. Wow. I'd forgotten how smooth and 
> silent the QB is. Single speed, supple Barlows and, everything in proper 
> working order. Butter smooth. Hear grasshoppers hop silent. Delicious! 
>
> I should have had more air in the rear tire as I got a pinch flat. First 
> and hopefully last real world use of my dinky hand pump. It barely got my 
> Barlows to 20-25 psi and that took 200 strokes. Lezyne pump for me next.
>
> Pictures prove the mountains are cool and refreshing in the dappled aspen 
> shade by the water. Just two pics today. Scroll right for the second one.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/deaconpatrick/28466140286/in/album-72157666852892563/
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, July 22, 2016 at 1:25:59 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> I ask too many questions. Grant and Co. help me anyway. My LBS doesn’t do 
>> that. Nowhere else I’ve been for bike stuff does that. So I buy from them 
>> whenever I can (or from the secondary market here, which indirectly 
>> supports them, I think, but that’s a different kettle of wax. Grin.).
>>
>> On my Quickbeam I’ve been puzzling out a series of creaks, chinks, binks, 
>> and shifts, all seeming to center the cranks, and happening in multiple 
>> layers but at least some of them always happening with each pedal stroke, 
>> mostly on the left.
>>
>> Because one layer of them was more with my climbing gear and I could see 
>> some shark toothing, I replaced both chain rings and the chain. One layer 
>> gone, remaining layer(s?) more apparent. Replaced the pedals (which do feel 
>> a bit wobbly on their axel, so I’ll rebuild), and another wee layer gone). 
>> But that last layer: how could I tell if it was cranks or BB? So I called 
>> Riv.
>>
>> After explaining my question, they asked me to hold. Grant pops on the 
>> phone! So I ask. “Try tightening the drive side cup.” Bingo. Rides smooth 
>> as butter again. Beautiful!
>>
>> Thanks, Grant!
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> www.OurHolyConception.org 
>> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org 
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini

[Joe Bernard]

You're thinking of the Romulus and Redwood, which were complete, slightly 
cheaper versions of the Ram. One cost-cutter was they were one color..no cream 
fills on those frames. A Romulus was my first Riv, which I bought from a shop 
in Danville, CA. The next QBP venture was the Bleriot, which was a cheaper 
Saluki/Homer.

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