[RBW] Re: Poster post

[Jack Doran]

This is a 1975 poster for the long gone Velo Sport Bicycles in Berkeley. 
The artist is David Lance Goines, whose work Bay Area folks may recognize 
from Chez Panisse and Freight & Salvage. 



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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[dstein]

I cast my vote for the Jones H-Bar if you're doing a lot of single track. 
As Bob K mentioned you need to do an adapter. I did it for a while and it 
worked great. The only reason I changed was because I got a Jones bike w/ H 
bar's and all my bikes have to have different handlebars ;). There's tons 
of videos from Jeff Jones and threads on this bar so won't go into too much 
detail, but it's my favorite for trail riding. The MAP bar is also good, 
it's a smaller diamater version of the non loop version of the Jones bar.

Next I'd consider Albastache. Like Deacon, I now rock that on my 
hunqapillar and enjoy it, though I do start to get hand numbness on a 
longer ride with these that I don't get with drops (haven't played much 
with height or angle though), I love these because you can go upright like 
albatross or aggressive like drops. 

I tried the bullmoose for a while too and wasn't a huge fan either. Though 
I think grips could really play into it. In addition to ergon grips check 
out the ESI chunky grips. May want to try those grips before redoing the 
cockpit, it's an easy and cheap upgrade.

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[RBW] Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Chad]

I loved the Albastache with a Dirt Drop stem on my Bombadil. Several different 
hand positions and the security of having the brake levers flat and forward on 
the bar for the rough, more technical terrain.  I too tried the Bullmoose bars. 
I liked the extra width for increased leverage but wouldn't want to ride them 
on longer distances due to lack of hand positions. ESI Chunky silicone grips 
and getting the bars as high as possible helped with hand fatigue and made them 
slightly more comfortable.

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Justin August]

I personally need more angle - like that of the MAP Bar (could be a suitable 
solution here) or the Jones bar. I have a flat, low degree bend bar on my Salsa 
El Mar and need something with more bend back.

I would definitely try the MAP bar if I were the OP. I was told by the maker 
they are suitable for the riding he is describing. 

-Justin

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[RBW] Re: ChocoMoose from 1987???

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah, I deleted my first comment 'cause I knew it wasn't appropriate - 
sometimes I blurt out the first damn thing in my head - but he caught it and 
replied to me. I apologized..it really wasn't a necessary thing to say. And I'd 
pay the same amount today for those cranks..

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[RBW] Re: ChocoMoose from 1987???

[adam leibow]

I've had a back & forth with the seller a bit via ebay messaging. He is 
reading this thread, which is a good thing IMO because it shows he is aware 
of the community. I am just trying to prevent somebody overpaying on what 
is an already expensive item. Nobody likes wasting money, and the Riv 
community is more tight-knit than most, so I found it appropriate to post 
here just to make sure that I was doing the right thing in notifying the 
seller that his information is incorrect. I understand the date coding, 
which is a genuinely understandable reason to think they're from 1987. He's 
not an idiot, just probably assumed too quickly they're from 1987 and not 
2013.. 




On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:49:01 PM UTC-8, adam leibow wrote:
>
> Hello 
>
> I searched Nitto on ebay and saw somebody selling ChocoMoose handlebars. 
> This person is claiming that they are new old stock from 1987, and asking 
> $300 for them. I sent them a kindly message saying they are not NOS, 
> Rivendell had them made like last year, and that they retail for $160. Then 
> I got a response saying "no they're branded from 1987" which is not 
> apparent in any of the photos...
>
> I'm 99.99% sure Nitto made these the first time for Rivendell in 
> like 2014-2015, when the Choco bars came out Can anybody please 
> validate me by telling me how wrong this seller is! Feel free to send your 
> own message as well. 
>
> Here is link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311764939784?ul_noapp=true
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Adam
>

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Joe Bernard]

I've always been a little bewildered by the antipathy in Riv/Bob World towards 
flatbars. I agree they aren't much to look at, but for shortish town rides, and 
especially technical trails, they work great for me. 

I prefer Albas, Chocos or Noodles on my "nice" bikes because they look better 
and work better on longer street rides, but I also have a couple folders with 
flatbars and don't think twice about it for the types of rides I do on them. 
Flatbars work for intended applications, they're just boring to look at.  

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jones Diamond Truss Steel Frame and Wheelsets

[Clayton.sf]

frame spoken for and buyer has dibs on parts. will update once transaction is 
completed. 

peace,
Clayton Scott
SF, CA

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[RBW] Re: ChocoMoose from 1987???

[Joe Bernard]

He's a bit of a huckster, but he oversold me the most gorgeous Shimano XT 737 
cranks a few years ago. I took a bath on them when I sold them here or at iBob 
a while back. I sure hope I needed the money then, 'cause I miss those cranks!

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

What the divide riders use has no influence on my preferences.  I included 
that because many people's first thought in regards to traditional MTB bars 
is that they don't have enough hand positions.  



On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 6:56:25 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> By your logic, Chris, you must not be a big fan of RBW's frames or bike 
> builds either because "the guys riding the Divide trail don't seem to have 
> any problems with (low handlebars, clip in peddles, horrid frame geometry, 
> index shifting, disk brakes, front and read suspension, etc.).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 5:41:42 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>>
>> I'm not a big fan of RBW's choices of handlebars.  Very few bikes out 
>> there have grips that are close to parallel to the top-tube.  Regular MTB 
>> bars with 9-15 degrees of sweep and up to about 40mm of rise work really 
>> well for me.  The guys riding the Divide trail don't seem to have any 
>> problems with the limited hand positions people often attribute to MTB 
>> bars.  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:32:53 PM UTC-6, Tim wrote:
>>>
>>> I have 150mm Nitto Bullmoose bars on the 58cm Hunqapillar. They are 
>>> level with the saddle (at the max extension), bar-ends mounted to thumbies, 
>>> cork grips. They don't work for me. Hand numbness ensues in a very, very 
>>> short time. I have now and again numbness with my noodle bars on my three 
>>> other bikes (all with bars at saddle height), that goes away easily with a 
>>> different hand position. So I have a set of the old-type Riv/Nitto 
>>> Moustache (not Albastache) bars, or some Albatross bars (which I'm swapping 
>>> for Noodles on the GFs Sam). Or I could choose the Bosco or Choco. I'll use 
>>> the Hunq for some rocky/rooty, kind of technical singletrack, hauling 
>>> groceries, maybe a few days on the Katy Trail, you get the picture. I will 
>>> ditch the cork grips but would like to keep the thumbies and MTB brakes. 
>>> Which way would you go? 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ChocoMoose from 1987???

[adam leibow]

yes, it is most certainly *2013*

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 5:14:00 PM UTC-8, sameness wrote:
>
>
> 
> He's going off of the U-Z date code, which indeed could indicate December 
> 1987. 
>
> Then again, as we know, it more likely indicates December *2013*.
>
> Jeff Hagedorn
> Los Angeles, CA USA
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[RBW] Re: ChocoMoose from 1987???

[sameness]

He's going off of the U-Z date code, which indeed could indicate December 
1987. 

Then again, as we know, it more likely indicates December *2013*.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] ChocoMoose from 1987???

[Bob B]

Liar!! They were made for the Appaloosas, which came out in 2015. Or was it 
late 2014? Either way, not 1987.

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[RBW] ChocoMoose from 1987???

[Joe Bernard]

That guy sells some pretty neat NOS stuff at absurd prices, and he's an idiot. 

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[RBW] Re: What is the RULE for Positioning the Tire Name on the Rim

[John Hawrylak]

Thanks guys for the replies. I understand it better.   Reed, thanks for the 
link to Retrogrouch site.  I could not remember the name.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ  

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 7:08:26 PM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:

> Sorry for the softball question, but I always forget.  I want to say the 
> Tire Name is 180° from the Valve Stem and on the non-drive side.
>
> I searched for RULES but did not find the one which had a link to the 
> Rules.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Deacon Patrick]

By your logic, Chris, you must not be a big fan of RBW's frames or bike 
builds either because "the guys riding the Divide trail don't seem to have 
any problems with (low handlebars, clip in peddles, horrid frame geometry, 
index shifting, disk brakes, front and read suspension, etc.).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 5:41:42 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> I'm not a big fan of RBW's choices of handlebars.  Very few bikes out 
> there have grips that are close to parallel to the top-tube.  Regular MTB 
> bars with 9-15 degrees of sweep and up to about 40mm of rise work really 
> well for me.  The guys riding the Divide trail don't seem to have any 
> problems with the limited hand positions people often attribute to MTB 
> bars.  
>
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:32:53 PM UTC-6, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I have 150mm Nitto Bullmoose bars on the 58cm Hunqapillar. They are level 
>> with the saddle (at the max extension), bar-ends mounted to thumbies, cork 
>> grips. They don't work for me. Hand numbness ensues in a very, very short 
>> time. I have now and again numbness with my noodle bars on my three other 
>> bikes (all with bars at saddle height), that goes away easily with a 
>> different hand position. So I have a set of the old-type Riv/Nitto 
>> Moustache (not Albastache) bars, or some Albatross bars (which I'm swapping 
>> for Noodles on the GFs Sam). Or I could choose the Bosco or Choco. I'll use 
>> the Hunq for some rocky/rooty, kind of technical singletrack, hauling 
>> groceries, maybe a few days on the Katy Trail, you get the picture. I will 
>> ditch the cork grips but would like to keep the thumbies and MTB brakes. 
>> Which way would you go? 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: What is the RULE for Positioning the Tire Name on the Rim

[Deacon Patrick]

The official rule I follow is that the tire name goes wherever it ends up 
and the valve goes through the hole in the rim.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 5:08:26 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Sorry for the softball question, but I always forget.  I want to say the 
> Tire Name is 180° from the Valve Stem and on the non-drive side.
>
> I searched for RULES but did not find the one which had a link to the 
> Rules.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>

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[RBW] ChocoMoose from 1987???

[adam leibow]

Hello 

I searched Nitto on ebay and saw somebody selling ChocoMoose handlebars. 
This person is claiming that they are new old stock from 1987, and asking 
$300 for them. I sent them a kindly message saying they are not NOS, 
Rivendell had them made like last year, and that they retail for $160. Then 
I got a response saying "no they're branded from 1987" which is not 
apparent in any of the photos...

I'm 99.99% sure Nitto made these the first time for Rivendell in 
like 2014-2015, when the Choco bars came out Can anybody please 
validate me by telling me how wrong this seller is! Feel free to send your 
own message as well. 

Here is link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/311764939784?ul_noapp=true

Thanks!!

Adam

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Bob K.]

I really like the Jones H-Bar on my Krampus, and it'd be great in a Hunq. 
Slight issue is that it's a 31.8 clamp diameter, so you'd have to use a thread 
less conversion stem like this: 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/stems/quill-stems/vo-threadless-stem-adaptor.html.
 

Some folks abhor the look, but form follows function in my mind.

I also really like the Albastache and 80mm Technomic setup on my Sam.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm not a big fan of RBW's choices of handlebars.  Very few bikes out there 
have grips that are close to parallel to the top-tube.  Regular MTB bars 
with 9-15 degrees of sweep and up to about 40mm of rise work really well 
for me.  The guys riding the Divide trail don't seem to have any problems 
with the limited hand positions people often attribute to MTB bars.  





On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:32:53 PM UTC-6, Tim wrote:
>
> I have 150mm Nitto Bullmoose bars on the 58cm Hunqapillar. They are level 
> with the saddle (at the max extension), bar-ends mounted to thumbies, cork 
> grips. They don't work for me. Hand numbness ensues in a very, very short 
> time. I have now and again numbness with my noodle bars on my three other 
> bikes (all with bars at saddle height), that goes away easily with a 
> different hand position. So I have a set of the old-type Riv/Nitto 
> Moustache (not Albastache) bars, or some Albatross bars (which I'm swapping 
> for Noodles on the GFs Sam). Or I could choose the Bosco or Choco. I'll use 
> the Hunq for some rocky/rooty, kind of technical singletrack, hauling 
> groceries, maybe a few days on the Katy Trail, you get the picture. I will 
> ditch the cork grips but would like to keep the thumbies and MTB brakes. 
> Which way would you go? 

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Re: [RBW] What is the RULE for Positioning the Tire Name on the Rim

[Eric Norris]

Having the label aligned with the valve hole also helps you find whatever was 
stuck in your tire that gave you a flat. Once you find the hole in the tube, go 
to that position on the tire to look for the offending item. If the hole is 90 
degrees from the valve, look at both places 90 degrees from the label on the 
tire.

It can be very hard to find tiny pieces of wire or glass, but knowing where the 
leak was makes this much easier.

--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
www.campyonly.com
campyonlyguy.blogspot.com

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 4:20 PM, Reed Kennedy  wrote:
> 
> Per Brooks over on the Retrogrouch blog:
> "When using clincher tires, the tire labels should be lined up with the valve 
> stem. That's not just an aesthetic affectation -- it can help when it comes 
> time to locate and fix a punctured tire... Labels should be visible/readable 
> from the drive side of the bike."
> -- 
> http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2016/11/retrogrouch-rules-proper-bike-setup.html
>  
> 
> 
> That lines up with what I was taught at my LBS many moons ago, and what I 
> have done ever since. 
> 
> Because I'm pedantic and some tire labels run for several inches these days, 
> I personally line the valve stem up with whatever aspect of the label seems 
> to best qualify as a "logo". On Compass tires, that's the blue oval that says 
> Compass in it. On Paselas I go the thing shaped like two swoopy parenthesis.
> 
> 
> Reed
> 
> On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 4:08 PM, John Hawrylak  > wrote:
> Sorry for the softball question, but I always forget.  I want to say the Tire 
> Name is 180° from the Valve Stem and on the non-drive side.
> 
> I searched for RULES but did not find the one which had a link to the Rules.
> 
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
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Re: [RBW] What is the RULE for Positioning the Tire Name on the Rim

[Reed Kennedy]

Per Brooks over on the Retrogrouch blog:

*"When using clincher tires, the tire labels should be lined up with the
valve stem. That's not just an aesthetic affectation -- it can help when it
comes time to locate and fix a punctured tire... Labels should be
visible/readable from the drive side of the bike."*
-- 
http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2016/11/retrogrouch-rules-proper-bike-setup.html

That lines up with what I was taught at my LBS many moons ago, and what I
have done ever since.

Because I'm pedantic and some tire labels run for several inches these
days, I personally line the valve stem up with whatever aspect of the label
seems to best qualify as a "logo". On Compass tires, that's the blue oval
that says Compass in it. On Paselas I go the thing shaped like two swoopy
parenthesis.


Reed

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 4:08 PM, John Hawrylak 
wrote:

> Sorry for the softball question, but I always forget.  I want to say the
> Tire Name is 180° from the Valve Stem and on the non-drive side.
>
> I searched for RULES but did not find the one which had a link to the
> Rules.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
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Re: [RBW] What is the RULE for Positioning the Tire Name on the Rim

[Steve Palincsar]

Wrong & wrong: label goes where the valve goes (so you can match up tire 
& tube in order to find the foreign object stuck in your tire once you 
find the hole in the tube) and it goes on the drive side (because you 
generally photgraph the bike from the drive side).



On 12/23/2016 07:08 PM, John Hawrylak wrote:
Sorry for the softball question, but I always forget.  I want to say 
the Tire Name is 180° from the Valve Stem and on the non-drive side.


I searched for RULES but did not find the one which had a link to the 
Rules.





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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Rivet Pearl saddle

[mikel66...@juno.com]

good idea. i just did

Warning: Don't Use Probiotics Before You See This
Gundry MD
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/585dbe146bcd93e0e3326st51duc

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[RBW] What is the RULE for Positioning the Tire Name on the Rim

[John Hawrylak]

Sorry for the softball question, but I always forget.  I want to say the 
Tire Name is 180° from the Valve Stem and on the non-drive side.

I searched for RULES but did not find the one which had a link to the Rules.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivet Pearl saddle

[Deacon Patrick]

Give Debbie a call and see if she has a used one you can try/buy. She's 
excellent to work with and prices any used saddles she has well.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:31:31 PM UTC-7, mike goldman wrote:
>
> looking for a Pearl saddle in good or better condition 
>
> i have Brooks b17 saddle to trade or i can buy outright 
>
> mike goldman 
> rhode island 
>  
> Watch: 1 Simple Step to Get Rid of Dark Spots 
> beverlyhills-md.com 
> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/585db3b38ba6833b3556est03duc 
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Deacon Patrick]

Tim,

As you may have seen, I'm a fanboy of the new Moustache bars (aka 
Albastache). Here's why: brakes in the curves allow braking on technical 
descents, and I love the increased control of the forward (but not too 
forward) position of the curves for riding technical (climbing or 
descending). Albatross bars do not allow this. Plus the new Moustache bars 
have the cruising position and the uber aero position on the brake levers 
(though I never use it, preferring instead to just bend my elbows and tuck).

You can test with your old Moustache bars, but keep in mind they feel , at 
least to me, dramatically more aggressive and narrow while the new 
Moustache bars feel fully engaged and flowing.

With abandon,
Patrick 

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 3:32:53 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote:
>
> I have 150mm Nitto Bullmoose bars on the 58cm Hunqapillar. They are level 
> with the saddle (at the max extension), bar-ends mounted to thumbies, cork 
> grips. They don't work for me. Hand numbness ensues in a very, very short 
> time. I have now and again numbness with my noodle bars on my three other 
> bikes (all with bars at saddle height), that goes away easily with a 
> different hand position. So I have a set of the old-type Riv/Nitto 
> Moustache (not Albastache) bars, or some Albatross bars (which I'm swapping 
> for Noodles on the GFs Sam). Or I could choose the Bosco or Choco. I'll use 
> the Hunq for some rocky/rooty, kind of technical singletrack, hauling 
> groceries, maybe a few days on the Katy Trail, you get the picture. I will 
> ditch the cork grips but would like to keep the thumbies and MTB brakes. 
> Which way would you go? 

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[RBW] WTB: Rivet Pearl saddle

[mikel66...@juno.com]

looking for a Pearl saddle in good or better condition

i have Brooks b17 saddle to trade or i can buy outright

mike goldman
rhode island

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beverlyhills-md.com
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[RBW] Re: Cornucopia of Winter Rides

[islaysteve]

Wonderful pictures, Patrick.  Thank you for sharing with us slightly less 
adventurous folks!
Steve

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 4:42:09 PM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
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> Thanks for sharing!
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
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[RBW] Re: Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Les Lammers]

Tim, consider some Ergon grips. They may solve the numbness issue w/o 
changing the bars.. 
http://ergonbike.myshopify.com/collections/grips/comfort-urban

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 5:44:18 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> The only extra stem I have laying around is a Dirt Drop, which I would 
> probably start with on the new bar. 

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[RBW] Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

[Joe Bernard]

I had lousy results with a Bullmoose, the angle of the grips was all wrong for 
me. My hands seem to need either a flat bar, or grips coming straight back to 
me like an Alba or Choco. I know it's not common amongst Riv Riders, but have 
you tried a regular flat mtb bar? I would recommend the Alba if you had a long 
stem and only street riding, but for the trail riding you've described it might 
get a little sketchy. A flat bar should work well with your DirtDrop and 
controls..maybe add Ergo grips for wrist support. 

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[RBW] Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

The only extra stem I have laying around is a Dirt Drop, which I would probably 
start with on the new bar. 

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[RBW] Handlebar suggestions for the Hunq

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have 150mm Nitto Bullmoose bars on the 58cm Hunqapillar. They are level with 
the saddle (at the max extension), bar-ends mounted to thumbies, cork grips. 
They don't work for me. Hand numbness ensues in a very, very short time. I have 
now and again numbness with my noodle bars on my three other bikes (all with 
bars at saddle height), that goes away easily with a different hand position. 
So I have a set of the old-type Riv/Nitto Moustache (not Albastache) bars, or 
some Albatross bars (which I'm swapping for Noodles on the GFs Sam). Or I could 
choose the Bosco or Choco. I'll use the Hunq for some rocky/rooty, kind of 
technical singletrack, hauling groceries, maybe a few days on the Katy Trail, 
you get the picture. I will ditch the cork grips but would like to keep the 
thumbies and MTB brakes. Which way would you go? 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brand new Silver Campy Veloce groupset

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Price drop: $360 shipped.  




On Tuesday, 20 December 2016 15:00:17 UTC-8, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>
> Bought from Ribble a month ago to build a new San Marcos.  I've abandoned 
> that project since then.  
>
> Groupset includes
>
> - Silver Brake Set 
> -12-30 Cassette 10 speed
> - 10 speed Chain 
> - 170 silver compact crankset 50/34
> - Silver front/rear derailleurs
> - Veloce Powershift Ergo-levers - Silver 10 Speed
> - Campy Power Torque English Thread bottom bracket
>
> $390 shipped
>
> PM me at 
>
> a s h w a t h  a t  g m a i l 
>
>
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[RBW] Re: HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah HubbaHubbah

['Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Our old Santana has a triple XT crankset with 54-44-28 and 12-32 8-speed 
cassette. We use the 44 unless we are going down hill or enjoying a 
tailwind.

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 9:24:24 PM UTC-6, Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow 
Haus Bicycles wrote:
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> Any other listers want to chime in on drivetrain choices for their 
> upcoming HubbaHubbah tandem?
>
> I'm on the fence with my chainring choices...
>

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[RBW] Cornucopia of Winter Rides

[Bob K.]

Thanks for sharing!

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: FS: Jones Diamond Truss Steel Frame and Wheelsets

[Clayton.sf]

$80 for the bars and $80 for the bag. Sorry for missing that.

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 1:39:00 PM UTC-8, Clayton.sf wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> *Frame and Fork and Headset:*
>
> For sale is a Jones Diamond Truss Steel Frame in green.
>
> Frame is straight and dent free. Some scratches here and there but nothing 
> major.
>
> Can be run single speed or geared (comes with two hangers)
>
> Bushnell EBB
>
> Fat front compatible.
>
> 135 front and rear spacing.
>
> Disc only.
>
> Cane Creek 40 headset
>
> Will include a brand new steerer in case you want a longer fork.
>
> $750 Shipped to CONUS
>
> some pictures here: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/albums/72157635593009713
>
>
>
> *Wheels (excellent shape):*
>
> Rear:
>
> Chris King 10speed disc hub in sliver with steel body for increased wear 
> resistance.  Thru axle but fits normal dropouts with more clamping force. 
> laced to Stans ZTR flow rims 32h. Tubless compatible. $325 shipped
> Phil wood Single Speed silver disc wheel with White laced to Stans ZTR 
> flow rims 32h. Tubless compatible. $250 shipped
>
> Front:
>
> 135 Paul Whub laces to Stans ZTR flow rims 32h. Tubless compatible $190 
> shipped. (FITS JONES TRUSS FORK FOR THE FRAME ABOVE)
> 135 Paul Whub laces to Surly Marge Lite 32h. This allows you to run a 26" 
> fat front on the Jones  $190 shipped. (FITS JONES TRUSS FORK FOR THE FRAME 
> ABOVE)
>
> *Handlebar*: Jones Loop bar aluminum 660 black. with Esi grips installed. 
> Excellent shape
>
> *Frame bag*: Designed by porcelain rocket in black to fit the Jones frame 
> above 100%.
>
> Happy to talk package deals.
>
>
> *This is the best Mountain bike I have ever pedaled.* The reason I am 
> selling it is because I want to try a Jones Plus frame and I can't have 2. 
>
> Email with any questions.
>
> Thanks,
> Clayton
>  
>
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Jones Diamond Truss Steel Frame and Wheelsets

[Clayton.sf]

Hi All,

*Frame and Fork and Headset:*

For sale is a Jones Diamond Truss Steel Frame in green.

Frame is straight and dent free. Some scratches here and there but nothing 
major.

Can be run single speed or geared (comes with two hangers)

Bushnell EBB

Fat front compatible.

135 front and rear spacing.

Disc only.

Cane Creek 40 headset

Will include a brand new steerer in case you want a longer fork.

$750 Shipped to CONUS

some pictures 
here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonesseff/albums/72157635593009713



*Wheels (excellent shape):*

Rear:

Chris King 10speed disc hub in sliver with steel body for increased wear 
resistance.  Thru axle but fits normal dropouts with more clamping force. 
laced to Stans ZTR flow rims 32h. Tubless compatible. $325 shipped
Phil wood Single Speed silver disc wheel with White laced to Stans ZTR flow 
rims 32h. Tubless compatible. $250 shipped

Front:

135 Paul Whub laces to Stans ZTR flow rims 32h. Tubless compatible $190 
shipped. (FITS JONES TRUSS FORK FOR THE FRAME ABOVE)
135 Paul Whub laces to Surly Marge Lite 32h. This allows you to run a 26" 
fat front on the Jones  $190 shipped. (FITS JONES TRUSS FORK FOR THE FRAME 
ABOVE)

*Handlebar*: Jones Loop bar aluminum 660 black. with Esi grips installed. 
Excellent shape

*Frame bag*: Designed by porcelain rocket in black to fit the Jones frame 
above 100%.

Happy to talk package deals.


*This is the best Mountain bike I have ever pedaled.* The reason I am 
selling it is because I want to try a Jones Plus frame and I can't have 2. 

Email with any questions.

Thanks,
Clayton
 


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Re: [RBW] Re: Why the Disclaimer signatures?

[Jeff Lesperance]

Many of those message footers are added by corporate email infrastructure
after the individual hits the send button, and are required either by
corporate legal guidelines or in some cases, by law. Most folks sending
messages to this list are not actively pasting those footers in, nor have
them setup to automatically append to their messages on their own, so
there's not much they can do about it except maybe not use business email
for personal use. (I'm a former corporate email admin, still in IT, but
it's no longer my headache)

Jeff
Silver Spring, MD

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 3:16 PM, 'Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> All I know is that they really clutter up the posts they are attached to.
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 12:47:32 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> Over the years I've noticed that some people have disclaimer paragraphs
>> in their signatures nere. I was wondering why people have them in their
>> signatures if they're just posting here? Usually these disclaimer say
>> something like "if you have received this electronic Transmission… "Or
>> something like that. Sometimes it something more legal like "this
>> electronic transmission is not endorsed by .… ". Just wondering what these
>> things are and why people have them in their signatures? I'm guessing these
>> people are contractually bound by current or former employersto put this
>> disclaimer on all their electronic transmission?
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[RBW] Re: Why the Disclaimer signatures?

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

All I know is that they really clutter up the posts they are attached to. 




On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 12:47:32 PM UTC-6, lum gim fong wrote:
>
> Over the years I've noticed that some people have disclaimer paragraphs in 
> their signatures nere. I was wondering why people have them in their 
> signatures if they're just posting here? Usually these disclaimer say 
> something like "if you have received this electronic Transmission… "Or 
> something like that. Sometimes it something more legal like "this 
> electronic transmission is not endorsed by .… ". Just wondering what these 
> things are and why people have them in their signatures? I'm guessing these 
> people are contractually bound by current or former employersto put this 
> disclaimer on all their electronic transmission?

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[RBW] Re: Why the Disclaimer signatures?

[sameness]

DESTROY BEFORE READING

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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Re: [RBW] Why the Disclaimer signatures?

[Tim Butterfield]

I find that kind of stuff amusing.  Any contract would have to exist before
the message is sent.  I don't think you can impose any kind of contact in
an ex post facto manner.

Tim

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 10:47 AM, lum gim fong 
wrote:

>  Over the years I've noticed that some people have disclaimer paragraphs
> in their signatures nere. I was wondering why people have them in their
> signatures if they're just posting here? Usually these disclaimer say
> something like "if you have received this electronic Transmission… "Or
> something like that. Sometimes it something more legal like "this
> electronic transmission is not endorsed by .… ". Just wondering what these
> things are and why people have them in their signatures? I'm guessing these
> people are contractually bound by current or former employersto put this
> disclaimer on all their electronic transmission?
>

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[RBW] Re: Why the Disclaimer signatures?

[Ron Mc]

a guess is people conducting business and google group posting using the 
same g-mail account

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[RBW] Why the Disclaimer signatures?

[lum gim fong]

 Over the years I've noticed that some people have disclaimer paragraphs in 
their signatures nere. I was wondering why people have them in their signatures 
if they're just posting here? Usually these disclaimer say something like "if 
you have received this electronic Transmission… "Or something like that. 
Sometimes it something more legal like "this electronic transmission is not 
endorsed by .… ". Just wondering what these things are and why people have them 
in their signatures? I'm guessing these people are contractually bound by 
current or former employersto put this disclaimer on all their electronic 
transmission?

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[RBW] Cornucopia of Winter Rides

[WETH]

Patrick,
I enjoy your photos.  You capture so well the beauty of and your enjoyment of 
both your bike and CO countryside!
Merry Christmas,
Erl

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Re: [RBW] Gilles Berthoud SEAT bag for sale

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 22, 2016, at 2:20 PM, Elton Pope-Lance 
> wrote:

Gilles Berthoud #904 seat bag and QR mount.
7 Liter capacity
New, never mounted.
>$325 new
$250 shipped ConUS

Please reply off-list

Thanks for looking!




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Re: [RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build

[Ryan Fleming]

Senior's moment Jon...really my only question was how you felt about the 
choco-norms as a moustache bar ...and your answer was really 
helpful...thanks and compliments of the season
On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 4:58:12 PM UTC-6, Jon BALER wrote:
>
> Ryan,
>
> Did you have 2 questions?  You're first message was blank.
>
> I'm liking the Choco-norms so far. It's been a change to have a bar with 
> so much rear sweep, as I am used to more aggressive set-ups.  I can't say 
> that it is affecting my riding, as I still feel plenty fast on this bike 
> while commuting.  It helps that the build is lighter than my stout touring 
> bikes that I was using before.
>
>  I've found the forward position is good for climbing and harder efforts, 
> as there is less flex in that position.  I think the flex is more from the 
> stem though, than the bars.  One negative with my set-up is  that the 
> cables are sort of in the way when I am in the forward position.  It's not 
> a big deal, just sort of annoying have a loose cable in your grip.  We'll 
> see how it feels in the summer when I am not wearing gloves. 
>
> I would like to try a Albastache bars, but that would mean new shifters 
> and brake levers.  My moustache bars have primarily been on my fixed gear 
> bike, so was more of a commuting bike than longer road rides.  For now, I 
> am happy with the choc-norms.
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Ryan Fleming  > wrote:
>
>> One other question, Jon, if you don't mind me asking. You were saying 
>> that you are a long-time moustache bar rider...as I am myselflike since 
>> 1993 when I bought my X0-1
>>
>> I see you have a tall headtube and flipped Choco-norms and I think you'd 
>> said that you've had the bike since late October. The cockpit looks really 
>> cool, but how do you like the Choco-norms as currently set up? Do you like 
>> them? I ordered them for my mixte on Grant's recommendation and I'm cool 
>> with that...looking forward to trying them but I'm interested in others' 
>> opinions.
>>
>> Thanks! Again, cool bike...very rugged and handsome ...regards Ryan
>> On Wednesday, December 21, 2016 at 5:55:45 PM UTC-6, Jon BALER wrote:
>>>
>>> Rogue panda is cool, because they only require a photo of the bike with 
>>> a ruler/tape measure in it.  No need to send a pattern by mail. 
>>> --
>>> From: Jeff Lesperance
>>> Sent: ‎12/‎21/‎2016 6:53 PM
>>> To: rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Another Rosco v2 Build
>>>
>>> Excellent setup and great bag... I just sent an inquiry to Rogue Panda 
>>> to see about getting one for my RB.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 4:43 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
 That is VERY cool. There's a Swiss Army Bike vibe going on there.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqua tires

[franklyn]

Esteban,

I would definitely recommend the Big Ones if you can fit them. I have 
experience with the 650B version of these tires 

 
in the East Bay Hills. They are light and fast rolling. Great for 
mixed-terrains. I changed to Compass SBH because of V-brake interference.

Franklyn

On Friday, December 23, 2016 at 6:35:11 AM UTC-8, Marc Irwin wrote:
>
> I've been running Schwalbe Big Ben 50mm front and back and love them. 
>  They roll quickly on pavement and have enough size and tread to take on 
> just about any other surface but deep
>  loose sand.
>
>
> 
>
> Marc
>
> On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 10:39:24 AM UTC-5, Esteban wrote:
>>
>> Well, I rode less this year than any time since about 2007. But the rides 
>> I shared were of very high quality. Now that the kids' presents have been 
>> purchased, and I get paid tomorrow (!) I can buy some tires for my 2015 
>> Hunquapillar. I've been running Schwalbe 2.0 and 2.1 Nanoraptors.
>>
>> I was planning on stuffing the biggest tire in there I could - trying out 
>> the Schwalbe Big One 2.35, but has that been replaced? How do they wear? 
>> Was also considering trying the Maxxis Ardent 2.4 skinwall. Thoughts?
>>
>> Esteban
>> San Diego, Calif.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Hunqua tires

[Marc Irwin]

I've been running Schwalbe Big Ben 50mm front and back and love them.  They 
roll quickly on pavement and have enough size and tread to take on just 
about any other surface but deep
 loose sand.



Marc

On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 10:39:24 AM UTC-5, Esteban wrote:
>
> Well, I rode less this year than any time since about 2007. But the rides 
> I shared were of very high quality. Now that the kids' presents have been 
> purchased, and I get paid tomorrow (!) I can buy some tires for my 2015 
> Hunquapillar. I've been running Schwalbe 2.0 and 2.1 Nanoraptors.
>
> I was planning on stuffing the biggest tire in there I could - trying out 
> the Schwalbe Big One 2.35, but has that been replaced? How do they wear? 
> Was also considering trying the Maxxis Ardent 2.4 skinwall. Thoughts?
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
>

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[RBW] FS: SOMA San Marcos frame set 51cm

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

Brand new SOMA/Rivendell San Marcos frame set (v1) 51cm

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/bik/5927204740.html

$550 local pickup.  $600 shipped.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqua tires

[Jon BALER]

I am riding them on a first generation Salsa Fargo.  They measure more like 
2.25" wide on salsa semi 29er rims.

On Thursday, December 22, 2016 at 11:35:46 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> Dumb question: are you riding the G-Ones on a Hunq? 

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