[RBW] Re: Wide drops for loaded Hunqapillar

[SSL]

Sorry Matt, just seeing this now. Honestly - having a wider flat bar & the 
option of drops is incredible, especially on the Hunq. Most of the time 
with drops I ride up on the flats anyways, and now with this bar I've got 
more control and more options for hand positions. My only regret is not 
building it up with interrupters. I've been in a few situations riding 
trails where those would make this bar absolutely perfect. 

-- Sean

On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 2:06:59 PM UTC-7, Mattt wrote:
>
> SSL,
>
> Can you provide more details on why it is most excellent?
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB/WTT/FS: Albatross HT Alu for Bullmoose Fillet Brazed Bars

[Timothy Orr]

Sold!

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[RBW] Re: Photos of new silver Joe Appaloosa color

[Stuart Lovinggood]

I love the silver cranks, too. Especially the logo. Put my order in for a 
55 in silver earlier today. Sold two bikes and with the money I got from 
that, was just $5 short of the Appaloosa + shipping. 

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 5:38:31 PM UTC-5, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Yes the silver cranks are nice, well worth the price ino

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Bill Lindsay]

The Bob Jon Pass measures a true 35mm on Open Pro rims.  The closest spot for 
clearance is under the fork crown. I probably would be comfortable with 38s 
with fenders and I suspect Rock and Roads would fit without fenders, and those 
are 43mm knobbies

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Jim Bronson]

https://fitkitsystems.com/product/pedal-spacers-20mm/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwnsPGBRDo4c6RqK-Oqu8BEiQAwNviCVM-vfOVecBoaNnqALDo7EP5bLrXUjP5aO7-UEeYBawaAihk8P8HAQ

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:23 PM, Ryan Fleming 
wrote:

> what are pedal extenders exactly?
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:29:18 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think
>> they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.
>>
>> What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size
>> would indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare
>> feet after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully
>> it will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big
>> that it pushes the whole deal upwards.
>>
>> I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts
>> and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.
>>
>> Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.
>>
>> The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty
>> amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.
>> I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may
>> just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections
>> to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.
>> I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no
>> fiddling required.
>>
>> The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the
>> relative effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll
>> get the brake adjusted and see.
>>
>> Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the
>> stock pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and
>> probably undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too
>> grabby with salmons.
>>
>> I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, the
>> fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels alarmingly
>> upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but I'm thinking
>> I might prefer something like this: https://www.ahearnecycles.com/
>> shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.
>>
>> I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure
>> as to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry,
>> or use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.
>>
>> Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around
>> the block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20
>> mile ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.
>>
>> I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something else.
>> I use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can only be
>> tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  With
>> pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess I
>> could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on
>> the threads.  LOL.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me
>>> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you
>>> think about this bike
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 And

 On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

> Bam!
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>
> It has arrived!
> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my
> daughter and brought it in the house.
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella 
> wrote:
>
>> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my
>> Atlantis box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else 
>> as a
>> surprise.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>>
>>> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get
>>> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun
>>> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:

 omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!

 I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a
 long time!

 One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the
 SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather 
 slowly it
 seems.

 On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud 
 wrote:

> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle.

[RBW] Re: REMINDER: Coffee Outside Bay Area

[Kellie]

*Coffee Outside* is coming this Sat., 7AM. There's an incredible prize 
donated from *Rivendell *for one lucky cyclist. Bring your brewing 
setup/thermos or some "eats" for trade and I'll make you a cup. Rain or 
shine (there's an overhand if it's raining about 50 yds. from where we 
usually meet). Right now the forecast looks good. Hope to see you there! 
More info. @cowboygrrl

On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 at 3:26:20 PM UTC-8, Kellie wrote:
>
>
> 
> This Sat. March 4, rain or shine, at the west end of Marina Park near 
> Salute Restaurant, Marina Bay, CA, 7AM. Bring your brewing set-up/thermos 
> and meet some like-minded cyclists. Only 4.5 miles from El Cerrito Bart 
> Station, and most the ride's on the SF Bay Trail to the meeting area.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: How to clean Ortliebs?

[Bill Gibson]

I wonder what gall soap is. I just wipe with a damp towel, and am always
careful to air dry thoroughly. I don't worry about newsage.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 8:32 AM, Brian Campbell 
wrote:

> For the lazy or challenged:
>
> My Ortlieb product is dirty. What is the best way of cleaning it?
> All ORTLIEB products may be cleaned with warm water and mild soap. Please
> do not use solvents, alcohol or acid cleaners. You may also use gall soap
> and a soft brush to clean your Ortlieb product.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 7:20:56 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>> Go to the source of course !  https://www.ortlieb.com/en/service/faq/
>> bottom of the page.
>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Road is much more complete now. Docena handlebar bag

[Christopher Cote]

How is the tire clearance? Are the chainstays the limiting point? What's 
the actual width of the Bon Jon Pass tires? How big do you think you could 
go with/without fenders? Sorry for the barrage of questions, but inquiring 
minds have to know!

Chris


On Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 1:06:44 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Carla asked about what surfaces I've ridden on and how it rides.  It's my 
> daily commute bike.  It's essentially aroad bike with 700x35 Bon Jon Pass 
> tires.  There's a short mud trail on my path through the hills, but I 
> wouldn't call that mountain riding.  Now that the rain has appeared to let 
> up, I'm thinking about running Rock and Roads with no fenders, but it's 
> great the way it is.  It rides like a Rivendell Road bike.  Solid, lively, 
> comfortable, predictable.  
>
> John asked about the front rack.   It's a mini-porteur rack by the builder 
> "Haulin Colin"
>
> Jay asked 'why go to all the trouble' of making my own super compact 
> double instead of buying the Rivendell offering of the shelf.  Certainly if 
> you have more money than free time, or more money than inclination to pull 
> together a concept, then a turnkey solution like the Rivendell Sugino 
> offering is way easier.  In my case, I ended uip with a crankset that is 
> lighter, stronger, prettier, has 172.5mm arms, a lower q-factor, and cost 
> about half the price.  Also, as Jeremy pointed out, I love it when a plan 
> comes together
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 12:59:12 PM UTC-7, Carla Waugh wrote:
>>
>> Bill what type of surfaced have you ridden and what tires are you using? 
>> Would you describe how the Rosco feels when you are riding it? Thanks
>
>

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[RBW] For Sale/Trade: Selle Anatomica NSX

[Montclair BobbyB]

Black NSX, lightly used (maybe 5 times?).  Very minor scuff (see pics); 
otherwise in excellent condition. $90 (free shipping); prefer to trade for 
Brooks (B17, Flyer, Pro, etc...).

Please email me:  montclairbob...@gmail.com

Thanks!
BB









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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Roberta]

Thank you all!  I think I'll need to go to "local" RIV reseller and ride 
some.

I have two bikes, both  early 1990 hybrids.  The first is hybrid more of 
mountain bike and that one is at work, so I can ride after work without 
having to tote my more-liked bike back and forth.  I'm the original owner 
but never "bonded" with it.The second one, a $140 CL purchase, is 
better, in that it has 700c tires with 36 or 38 width. I got that nearly 
two years ago.   It has twist shifters that work "most" of the time.  The 
ride is pretty nice, but I'm a bit too stretched out on it, even with 
raising the handlebars and moving the seat fore/aft.  Still, this is the 
bike that got me to liking longer rides and smiling while riding.  Riding 
this has made me happy, although my feet get number after an hour or so.  
I've tried a number of current Giant/Specialized/Trek bikes, but then I get 
back on my bike and like the feel of steel better.  

So, I thought that it would be really nice to have a good quality,  steel 
framed, non drop bar bike that fits me well.   Rivendell philosophy and the 
comments here related to the "happiness" of the members while riding, 
 resonated with me.  If I like the bike, can smile when riding and will 
ride more and longer.  Plus, I'd like to go on more group rides and would 
like to keep up.  Yes, I know: the engine.  I'll be doing more at the gym, 
too.  :)

Roberta

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:39:29 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:

> Roberta, I owned a Clem H, and currently have an Appaloosa. I think they 
> both handle about the same - smooth and stable in a straight line, but 
> still a nice turn-in - but I would pick the Appa for a 50 mile ride. It's a 
> little lighter and more responsive, which are things you will appreciate 30 
> miles in and 20 to go. Also, it's a beautiful lugged frame. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Eric Daume]

It looks like they used the same length chainstays on the 65cm Clem as the
59cm. They look more proportional (but still long!) on the big bike.

Looks great!

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think
> they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.
>
> What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size
> would indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare
> feet after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully
> it will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big
> that it pushes the whole deal upwards.
>
> I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts
> and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.
>
> Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.
>
> The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty
> amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.
> I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may
> just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections
> to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.
> I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no
> fiddling required.
>
> The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the relative
> effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll get the
> brake adjusted and see.
>
> Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the stock
> pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and probably
> undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too grabby with
> salmons.
>
> I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, the
> fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels alarmingly
> upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but I'm thinking
> I might prefer something like this: https://www.ahearnecycles.com/
> shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.
>
> I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure
> as to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry,
> or use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.
>
> Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around the
> block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20 mile
> ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.
>
> I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something else.
> I use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can only be
> tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  With
> pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess I
> could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on
> the threads.  LOL.
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming <
> ryanmalloryflem...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me
>> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you
>> think about this bike
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> And
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>>
 Bam!

 On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

 It has arrived!
 Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my
 daughter and brought it in the house.

 On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella 
 wrote:

> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis
> box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a
> surprise.
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get
>> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun
>> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>>
>>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a
>>> long time!
>>>
>>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the
>>> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
>>> it
>>> seems.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle.

 Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable.

 Thomas

 On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> You are most 

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Ryan Fleming]

what are pedal extenders exactly? 

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:29:18 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think 
> they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.
>
> What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size 
> would indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare 
> feet after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully 
> it will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big 
> that it pushes the whole deal upwards.
>
> I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts 
> and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.
>
> Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.
>
> The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty 
> amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.  
> I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may 
> just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections 
> to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.  
> I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no 
> fiddling required.
>
> The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the relative 
> effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll get the 
> brake adjusted and see.
>
> Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the stock 
> pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and probably 
> undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too grabby with 
> salmons.
>  
> I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, the 
> fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels alarmingly 
> upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but I'm thinking 
> I might prefer something like this: 
> https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.  
>
> I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure 
> as to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry, 
> or use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.
>
> Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around the 
> block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20 mile 
> ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.
>
> I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something else.  
> I use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can only be 
> tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  With 
> pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess I 
> could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on 
> the threads.  LOL.
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming  > wrote:
>
>> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me 
>> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you 
>> think about this bike 
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> And
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>>
 Bam!

 On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:

 It has arrived!
 Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my 
 daughter and brought it in the house.

 On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella  
 wrote:

> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis 
> box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a 
> surprise. 
>
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get 
>> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun 
>> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>>
>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>>
>>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>>
>>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a 
>>> long time!
>>>
>>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the 
>>> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
>>> it 
>>> seems.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 

 Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 

 Thomas

 On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> You are most welcome!
>
> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you 

Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Jim Bronson]

The front hub is marked Clem.  The back hub is unmarked.  I don't think
they're Silver hubs per se.  They look like older Shimano MTB hubs.

What do I think about the bike?  Feels big, bigger than the 65cm size would
indicate.  Standover was pretty tight when I stood over it in bare feet
after completing assembly and I am 6'7" with a 38 inseam!  Hopefully it
will be a little better in shoes.  I guess the tires are just so big that
it pushes the whole deal upwards.

I took it for a spin around the neighborhood last night in my gym shorts
and slippers wearing a plain white tee around 1am.

Handling was neutral and very stable, expected for a Rivendell.

The rear derailer friction shifting was very, very smooth, I was pretty
amazed how easily it went between gears with a minimum of noise and fuss.
I was going to bolt on an indexed 8 speed unit but it was so smooth I may
just leave it.  I was expecting to need to make many small trim corrections
to eliminate noise coming from the rear but that was not the case at all.
I just stopped when it went thunk to the next gear and that was it, no
fiddling required.

The front brake was rubbing a little so it's hard to estimate the relative
effort required move the bike but it felt somewhat hefty.  We'll get the
brake adjusted and see.

Speaking of the brakes, the V brakes are very powerful even with the stock
pads.  A change to Koolstop salmon is definitely not required and probably
undesirable with these powerful brakes.  I think they'd be too grabby with
salmons.

I had the distinct feeling of not liking the handlebars so much, but, the
fit is definitely not dialed in as of yet.  Right now it feels alarmingly
upright.  We'll see.  I'm going to leave it alone for now but I'm thinking
I might prefer something like this:
https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar.

I have not installed the stock handlebar grips as of yet, as I am unsure as
to what would be the expected method of installation.  Put them on dry, or
use the black goop that's used with the cork grips.

Hard to tell on the seat, I usually wear bike shorts so kicking around the
block in gym shorts felt a bit uncomfortable.  I'll give it a 15-20 mile
ride with bike shorts and see how I feel.

I have the stock pedals on, but I'm going to need to get something else.  I
use pedal extenders on all my bikes and the stock Clem pedals can only be
tightened by using an allen wrench from the inside of the cranks.  With
pedal extenders there's no way to fully tighten the pedals.   I guess I
could do them finger tight to the pedal extenders and put Locktite Red on
the threads.  LOL.

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Ryan Fleming  wrote:

> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me
> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you
> think about this bike
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> And
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>
>>> Bam!
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>>
>>> It has arrived!
>>> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my daughter
>>> and brought it in the house.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis
 box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a
 surprise.


 On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get
> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun
> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>
>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a
>> long time!
>>
>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the
>> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
>> it
>> seems.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle.
>>>
>>> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:

 You are most welcome!

 NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup?
 ;)

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[RBW] Re: Red Rosco

[masmojo]

Here's mine, not quite done, but further along thwn these photos show. These 
are from a couple weeks ago. 
http://smg.photobucket.com/user/masmojo/media/bikes/20170219_164352_zps1pamvsmf.jpg.html

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/masmojo/media/bikes/20170223_205757_zpse5ibq8mu.jpg.html

Fenders, brakes, crank, etc. have gone on. Just waiting on a new cassette.

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Christopher Murray]

I agree that we probably won't be seeing a new QB iteration soon (excluding the 
Blue Lug project). It would be cool to see a Quickbeam/Simpleone mixte-- maybe 
the QuickMix? 

I do wonder if you could invert the QB's angled dropout so you could use it as 
a derailer bike or single speed without losing the ability to have multiple 
gears as a single speed. Of course this would require a new dropout. 

Cheers!
Chris 

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[RBW] Re: Red Rosco

[Ryan Fleming]

hmmm maybe you were one of the ladies at RBW picking up a red Roscoe?

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 10:01:31 AM UTC-5, Eli Queen wrote:
>
> (First post!)
>
> I'm building one up right now. It's taking a while (or you could say I'm 
> taking my time) b/c I'm also building my fist set of wheels as part of a 
> class at my local co-op. The only in-progress photos I have are from my 
> cluttered basement, but I'll try to take so better ones soon. Build is 
> fairly Riv-standard:
>
> Albatross bars
> Nitto Technomic
> Tektro linear pull brakes and levers
> Microshift thumbies
> Sugino/Shimano drivetrain
>
>
> It's certainly pretty, I can't wait to see how it rides.
>
> - Eli
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Red Rosco

[Carla Waugh]

Congratulations and the red is a beauty! I will have a blue one in the near 
future. Go Rosco's!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Joe Bernard]

Roberta, I owned a Clem H, and currently have an Appaloosa. I think they both 
handle about the same - smooth and stable in a straight line, but still a nice 
turn-in - but I would pick the Appa for a 50 mile ride. It's a little lighter 
and more responsive, which are things you will appreciate 30 miles in and 20 to 
go. Also, it's a beautiful lugged frame. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Ryan, I laughed at your comment about cringing with a "hybrid"!   I decided 
a few years back to ditch drop bars and go with alt bars (read Mary, Bosco, 
Albas, MAPS,  etc).  My local shop, who are great guys really, always call 
my bikes a "hybrid" and it does make me cringe.  I've modified '80's road 
bikes with these types of bars and they insist on calling the resulting 
bike a hybrid.  Not with a wink either I'm afraid.  
I'm a Riv convert now and love what they do and how they ride.
 
On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 4:05:45 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:

> Hi Roberta
>
> I am a multi-bike owner - 64 - and though I used to tour and do centuries 
> , I now enjoy the rides you describe and 50 miles would be my upper limit. 
> I do have a Riv road bike and an all-rounder w moustache bars...etc. so 
> most of my fleet are "hybrids" - cringe. and I've just received a custom 
> mixte (= Clem , = Cheviot) that I have Choco bars on. I have not yet tried 
> out the mixte, but I would have no hesitation  taking it on a 40-50 mile 
> ride that you describe based on other listers' experience of these bikes 
> and my own 24+ years experience with Grant's bikes .
>
> Now, lower down others like Richard Rios have suggested incorporating our 
> kind of cycling with other activities for better health and fitness, and 
> their advice is excellent.
>
> I'll let y'all know how that new mixte works out for me...who  knows...it 
> may be the one bike to rule them all and the only bike I ever need. But 
> variety , they tell me, is the spice of life.
>
> What I can tell you for sure is that you will never buy a Riv and think 
> "Crap, what a complete waste of money that was!"  A riv may be high-cost 
> but it is definitely high-reward.
>
> Do let us know how you get on with your search
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-5, Roberta wrote:
>>
>> Thank you all. I had read the clem vs Appaloosa thread, among others, 
>> which got me rethinking my intended use/bike and starting this thread. 
>>  I'll take a look at the Roadini and continue to look for used Rivs. I 
>> don't have room or else I'd consider clem/cheviot AND another bike.  Even 
>> though I was originally looking for a step through, would the App or Sam 
>> fit my intended purpose?  The only requirement I have is no drop bars. 
>>
>> Ski never heard of Jack Johnson, and just sampled some of his music on 
>> youtube. I will be listening to more tracks! 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sugino XD2 or XD600 triple 170mm

[RichS]

Kieran, I just pm'd  you.

Regards,
Richard

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 10:11:56 PM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Looking for a good example of this crankset in 170mm length. New or close 
> to it. 
> Should have 46/36/26t rings or thereabouts.
>
> Anyone have a spare one? Let me know.
>
> Kieran
> Toronto, Canada
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[RichS]

Congratulations! Clem are an excellent value. Stable and comfortable.

Best,
Richard 

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 11:08:18 AM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me 
> more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you 
> think about this bike 
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> And
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>
>>> Bam!
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  wrote:
>>>
>>> It has arrived!
>>> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my daughter 
>>> and brought it in the house.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis 
 box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a 
 surprise. 


 On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get 
> artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun 
> unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>>
>> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a 
>> long time!
>>
>> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the 
>> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
>> it 
>> seems.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 
>>>
>>> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:

 You are most welcome!

 NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? 
 ;)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Ryan Fleming]

Hi Roberta

I am a multi-bike owner - 64 - and though I used to tour and do centuries , 
I now enjoy the rides you describe and 50 miles would be my upper limit. I 
do have a Riv road bike and an all-rounder w moustache bars...etc. so most 
of my fleet are "hybrids" - cringe. and I've just received a custom mixte 
(= Clem , = Cheviot) that I have Choco bars on. I have not yet tried out 
the mixte, but I would have no hesitation  taking it on a 40-50 mile ride 
that you describe based on other listers' experience of these bikes and my 
own 24+ years experience with Grant's bikes .

Now, lower down others like Richard Rios have suggested incorporating our 
kind of cycling with other activities for better health and fitness, and 
their advice is excellent.

I'll let y'all know how that new mixte works out for me...who  knows...it 
may be the one bike to rule them all and the only bike I ever need. But 
variety , they tell me, is the spice of life.

What I can tell you for sure is that you will never buy a Riv and think 
"Crap, what a complete waste of money that was!"  A riv may be high-cost 
but it is definitely high-reward.

Do let us know how you get on with your search

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 10:02:04 AM UTC-5, Roberta wrote:
>
> Thank you all. I had read the clem vs Appaloosa thread, among others, 
> which got me rethinking my intended use/bike and starting this thread. 
>  I'll take a look at the Roadini and continue to look for used Rivs. I 
> don't have room or else I'd consider clem/cheviot AND another bike.  Even 
> though I was originally looking for a step through, would the App or Sam 
> fit my intended purpose?  The only requirement I have is no drop bars. 
>
> Ski never heard of Jack Johnson, and just sampled some of his music on 
> youtube. I will be listening to more tracks! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Richard Rios]

Roberta,

I'm not sure what your fitness goals are but I come down on the side of bike 
riding isn't that great a form of exercise. I think Grant has written a good 
number of posts about this topic.  If I recall correctly without trying to put 
words in anyone's mouth, I think it is in part how the whole just ride thing 
came about. Any way if you wanna be "fit" in that you can ride long miles 
quickly then maybe continue down the road you are going and check out 
specalized or trek or any number of the other bike manufactures out there. 
perhaps a Roadeo or Roadini of you wanna stay with Riv. Otherwise do some 
burpees, sit ups, push ups, and hit training. Much better excersize and you 
will get "Fit" this way. Use your bike rides for fun and enjoying nature.If you 
do the other stuff you can hop on your bike and do 40-50 miles no problem. will 
you be super fast like the guys and gals who put all the fast miles in. prolly 
not, but unless you are racing who cares. By the way I have a clem H. it rides 
like a dream and when I have time I take off rambling for the day. I dont count 
miles but the bike has never been any sort of barrier to me riding as fast or 
as far as I would care to go.

best,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Scott Blouke]

Roberta 
If I set up a Clem L or Cheviot with some nice wheels/tires and 
albatross/bosco bars i would probably get rid of at least 2 bikes.
At speeds of 12-15 mph I don't really like drop bars as much as upright 
bars that have a forward hand position.
I have not rode a Clem L but I have ridden 2 Betty Foys and a they are 
great even while I am at the upper end on recommended rider weight.
I think the Clem L is neat because of the tire clearance and some of the 
new high volume tires are just fantastic to ride, amazingly fast and 
comfortable.
I don't think the kind of riding you are talking about are at the limits of 
any of the geared Rivendell bikes.  
I think its pretty much exactly what they are all for and more.
Scott



On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 5:09:19 PM UTC-7, Roberta wrote:
>
> For those of you who own this, how do you feel about Clem for longer 
> "exercise" rides--40-50 miles-- that is NOT touring.That is, I won't 
> load the bike with anything other than what I need on a one day 
> jaunt--lunch, flat kit, water, windbreaker, etc.  I don't want a slog of a 
> bike. (yes, I do realize that the "engine" is most important, but this 
> engine has two bikes and I go faster on one vs. the other.)  Most of the 
> area is flat, but in the city park and in some of the suburbs, it is hilly.
>
> I did consider a used Cheviot, but didn't get the sense that it was a 
> "long ride" bike-- a bit too upright.  I could be wrong.
>
> I'm considering a Clem L so I can do (and want to do more often) longer 
> exercise rides.   My minimum ride is 12.5 miles (1 hour) , but I like to go 
> 25 miles (2 hours) each weekend day.  Once or twice a month I'd like to do 
> a longer ride. 
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta, PBH 82.5, 57 YO, trying to get into better health
>

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[RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Garth]

Yes, the bike frame or how high the bars have nothing to do with the 
ability to ride it as long as you like. The only limits are really in the 
comparing.  Bike riding is bike riding, it's really rather simple you know. 
Pick a bike and ride and smile the whole time.

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[RBW] FS: 26" Schwable Rock Razors

[Timothy Hurley]

Sold!

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[ted]

I vaugly recall mention of working on a drop out for bikelug. When I saw that I 
did not take it to imply another iteration of the QB/SO was in the offing.
For a long time there was a sticky thread at the top of this list regarding 
RBWs conditions for doing another run of SOs. It didn't seem very promising.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Philip Kim]

Roberta,

I actually test rode both the Clem L and the Appaloosa for a day. I was 
surprised at how much I loved the Clem L. It's not a "fast" bike, but I 
honestly did not care nor notice while riding it. Something about getting 
up to speed kind of goes to the back of your mind when you get on, it's 
hard to describe. Definitely put a smile on my face, it reminded me of the 
feeling I had when I first learned how to ride a bike. The Appaloosa was 
comfortable, but wants to go a bit faster. Before the test ride, I was 
leaning towards the Appaloosa, after the test ride, I was leaning heavily 
toward the Clem L.

I ended up choosing the Appaloosa due to:

1.) sizing was right top tube and seat tube length
2.) even though I loved the Clem, it was going to be for my 20 mile commute 
that has a lot of uphill in the morning. Obviously the rider matters more 
than the machine, but I plan to get the Clem L down the road anyways so I 
splurged a bit.
3.) the dark green color and lugs.
4.) the fork


On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 11:02:04 AM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> Thank you all. I had read the clem vs Appaloosa thread, among others, 
> which got me rethinking my intended use/bike and starting this thread. 
>  I'll take a look at the Roadini and continue to look for used Rivs. I 
> don't have room or else I'd consider clem/cheviot AND another bike.  Even 
> though I was originally looking for a step through, would the App or Sam 
> fit my intended purpose?  The only requirement I have is no drop bars. 
>
> Ski never heard of Jack Johnson, and just sampled some of his music on 
> youtube. I will be listening to more tracks! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Although I have yet to take my Clementine on a ride of the distances you 
are talking about, I would make a few observations. Riding a bike is riding 
a bike--you will be "exercising" whether you are commuting, touring, 
tootling, or riding fast to nowhere and back. Your body doesn't much care 
to make these distinctions. I say that because the Clementine is a fun bike 
to ride. You want non-drop bars, the Clem(entine) is designed for that. It 
has plenty of gearing to get up hills. The Low, step through version, in my 
estimation, gives you much more flexibility (as you lose flexibility) with 
no downside. It will work with Boscos, Albatross, Choco, Albastache. Once 
you figure the best bars for 40-mile rides, now you get to ride a 
fun-riding bike for 40 miles. It has great ride qualities and it will not 
slow you down. The only exception to this is if you are intending to ride 
in a pack of fast-moving cyclists. All the bikes you mention would do the 
trick. I would just say don't dismiss the Clementine simply because it may 
give the appearance of being just a neighborhood cruiser. Read Zed's review 
of his Clem H and you will see that it is fast and versatile. 

http://zedmartinez.com/2016/06/rivendell-clem-smith-jr/

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 11:02:04 AM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> Thank you all. I had read the clem vs Appaloosa thread, among others, 
> which got me rethinking my intended use/bike and starting this thread. 
>  I'll take a look at the Roadini and continue to look for used Rivs. I 
> don't have room or else I'd consider clem/cheviot AND another bike.  Even 
> though I was originally looking for a step through, would the App or Sam 
> fit my intended purpose?  The only requirement I have is no drop bars. 
>
> Ski never heard of Jack Johnson, and just sampled some of his music on 
> youtube. I will be listening to more tracks! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Andrew Huston]

Chris this sounds familiar. I also made an offer with no response. After a 
message he did offer to meet in the middle regarding price so I think I came 
away pretty good considering the "near new" description and less than 50 miles. 
I guess we will see when it arrives Thursday. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reminder: Rivendell Road Standard FS

[iamkeith]

https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!topic/rbw-owners-bunch/6Ba1GhqSHq8

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Re: [RBW] Re: Reminder: Rivendell Road Standard FS

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I'm sorry but I must have missed it (I did read the thread again).  What is 
the frame size?

On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 11:10:14 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> It does have vertical drops, and will soon have an unstuck stem. 
>
> –Eric N 
>
>
> > On Mar 20, 2017, at 7:40 PM, iamkeith  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Yes, but Eric's appears to have vertical dropouts!  (Unlike the one 
> currently on ebay, that's closer to my size but $1,000 more and not built 
> as nicely.)  If this one was my size, nothing in the world could keep me 
> from un-stucking that stem, at this price.  I can't believe nobody's bought 
> yet, and can't help but think that it doesn't bode well for the Roadini 
> project.  I hope I'm wrong and do understand that "new" has its appeal, but 
> this is a pretty special bike for someone who wants a go-fast. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Belopsky]

I was trying to find the post and could not, either..usually my google-fu 
is great

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 10:23:26 AM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>
> I think they are. I couldn't find the post on it.  IIRC it was only in 
> smaller sized frames.
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 9:00:54 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> I was under the impression that Riv is doing a single speed bike in 
>> collaboration with Blue Lug - if memory serves it should be coming sometime 
>> spring/summer...
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I recently bought a 2004 green Quickbeam off of eBay and can't help but to 
think that this seller used my purchase as a benchmark for his asking price 
which happens to be to the dollar what I paid for it.  I had sent in an 
offer for a small discount off and the seller ignored my offer so I bit the 
bullet and did a Buy It Now at the asking price.  In the end I'm glad I 
have the bike but overall it was not a great purchasing experience (for 
other reasons not mentioned).

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 10:23:26 AM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:

> I think they are. I couldn't find the post on it.  IIRC it was only in 
> smaller sized frames.
>
> On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 9:00:54 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> I was under the impression that Riv is doing a single speed bike in 
>> collaboration with Blue Lug - if memory serves it should be coming sometime 
>> spring/summer...
>>
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[RBW] Re: How to clean Ortliebs?

[Brian Campbell]

For the lazy or challenged:

My Ortlieb product is dirty. What is the best way of cleaning it?
All ORTLIEB products may be cleaned with warm water and mild soap. Please 
do not use solvents, alcohol or acid cleaners. You may also use gall soap 
and a soft brush to clean your Ortlieb product.

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 7:20:56 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:

> Go to the source of course !  https://www.ortlieb.com/en/service/faq/   
> bottom of the page.

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[RBW] Re: Red Rosco

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Looking forward to seeing the photos Eli!

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 11:01:31 AM UTC-4, Eli Queen wrote:
>
> (First post!)
>
> I'm building one up right now. It's taking a while (or you could say I'm 
> taking my time) b/c I'm also building my fist set of wheels as part of a 
> class at my local co-op. The only in-progress photos I have are from my 
> cluttered basement, but I'll try to take so better ones soon. Build is 
> fairly Riv-standard:
>
> Albatross bars
> Nitto Technomic
> Tektro linear pull brakes and levers
> Microshift thumbies
> Sugino/Shimano drivetrain
>
>
> It's certainly pretty, I can't wait to see how it rides.
>
> - Eli
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[Ryan Fleming]

Nice...Jim are those Silver hubs as well? That Silver crank impresses me 
more and more every time I see it. You'll have to let us know what you 
think about this bike 

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 2:00:29 AM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> And
>
> On Mar 20, 2017 18:35, "Jim Bronson"  
> wrote:
>
>> Bam!
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2017 15:51, "Jim Bronson"  
>> wrote:
>>
>> It has arrived!
>> Unfortunately, I am not at home yet, but Grandma is watching my daughter 
>> and brought it in the house.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Wally Estrella > > wrote:
>>
>>> HA HA! YES!  From the Riv Gallery.  I had the Catlantis on my Atlantis 
>>> box.  I guess this one will be the Clem Cat or something else as a 
>>> surprise. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 2:00:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:

 I hear your pain. We're waiting to see the unveiling.  If you get 
 artwork on your riv box, I will be s jealous . Exciting! Have fun 
 unpacking (don't be in a hurry :)) and building the new bike

 On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 12:02:23 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> omg I am chomping at the bit!  COME ON FEDEX!
>
> I haven't been this geeky about a new to me bike or bike bit in a long 
> time!
>
> One thing I promise to myself I will do before unboxing:  get the 
> SomaGR in the garage out for pictures, that I am selling, rather slowly 
> it 
> seems.
>
> On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 9:18 AM, blakcloud  wrote:
>
>> Wally, that was very funny! I had a good chuckle. 
>>
>> Jim, congrats on the new bike in your stable. 
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>> On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 3:24:07 PM UTC-4, Wally Estrella wrote:
>>>
>>> You are most welcome!
>>>
>>> NICE! Congrats!  I can relish that new bike.  Now can you ketchup? ;)
>>>
>>> I like big bikes! I push a 64 Atlantis and 64 Quickbeam.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Roberta,
You mentioned that you have two bikes and go faster on one vs the other.

What's your motivation for getting another bike? How are those bikes 
limiting your exercise rides of 40 - 50 miles?

I think the upright position hindering distance rides can be misleading. 
But like saddles, pedals, colors, : those are personal preferences. 

Good luck!
shoji



On Monday, March 20, 2017 at 8:09:19 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>
> For those of you who own this, how do you feel about Clem for longer 
> "exercise" rides--40-50 miles-- that is NOT touring.That is, I won't 
> load the bike with anything other than what I need on a one day 
> jaunt--lunch, flat kit, water, windbreaker, etc.  I don't want a slog of a 
> bike. (yes, I do realize that the "engine" is most important, but this 
> engine has two bikes and I go faster on one vs. the other.)  Most of the 
> area is flat, but in the city park and in some of the suburbs, it is hilly.
>
> I did consider a used Cheviot, but didn't get the sense that it was a 
> "long ride" bike-- a bit too upright.  I could be wrong.
>
> I'm considering a Clem L so I can do (and want to do more often) longer 
> exercise rides.   My minimum ride is 12.5 miles (1 hour) , but I like to go 
> 25 miles (2 hours) each weekend day.  Once or twice a month I'd like to do 
> a longer ride. 
>
> Thanks,
> Roberta, PBH 82.5, 57 YO, trying to get into better health
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clem L (low bar) for longer rides?

[Roberta]

Thank you all. I had read the clem vs Appaloosa thread, among others, which got 
me rethinking my intended use/bike and starting this thread.  I'll take a look 
at the Roadini and continue to look for used Rivs. I don't have room or else 
I'd consider clem/cheviot AND another bike.  Even though I was originally 
looking for a step through, would the App or Sam fit my intended purpose?  The 
only requirement I have is no drop bars.

Ski never heard of Jack Johnson, and just sampled some of his music on youtube. 
I will be listening to more tracks!

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[RBW] Re: Red Rosco

[Eli Queen]

(First post!)

I'm building one up right now. It's taking a while (or you could say I'm 
taking my time) b/c I'm also building my fist set of wheels as part of a 
class at my local co-op. The only in-progress photos I have are from my 
cluttered basement, but I'll try to take so better ones soon. Build is 
fairly Riv-standard:

Albatross bars
Nitto Technomic
Tektro linear pull brakes and levers
Microshift thumbies
Sugino/Shimano drivetrain


It's certainly pretty, I can't wait to see how it rides.

- Eli

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Wally Estrella]

I think they are. I couldn't find the post on it.  IIRC it was only in 
smaller sized frames.

On Tuesday, March 21, 2017 at 9:00:54 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
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> I was under the impression that Riv is doing a single speed bike in 
> collaboration with Blue Lug - if memory serves it should be coming sometime 
> spring/summer...
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bosco bullmoose

[Philip Kim]

$110 plush shipping

On Tuesday, March 14, 2017 at 11:48:39 AM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> selling bosco bullmoose 54cm, filet brazed version. $125 plus shipping. 
>
>
> thanks,
>
> Phil in DC
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Re: [RBW] Re: New bike day: unpacking

[WETH]

Oh joy! Enjoy it!

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: 56cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Belopsky]

I was under the impression that Riv is doing a single speed bike in 
collaboration with Blue Lug - if memory serves it should be coming sometime 
spring/summer...

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[RBW] How to clean Ortliebs?

[Garth]

Go to the source of course !  https://www.ortlieb.com/en/service/faq/   
bottom of the page.

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