[RBW] Re: OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[twowheeledtexan]

> I'm running a 40/24 with 10 speed XT 11-36 on my Hunqapillar. The crank is 
> Riv's Silver, which has spacers for the small ring. I did exactly as you 
> asked and had the chain get stuck between chainrings. I used smaller 
> spacers and don't have a problem with it any more. Sugino triples don't 
> have spacers so you can't reduce the space between the chainrings. I have 
> used a Sugino XD crank with 48/34 gearing with 10 speed XT with no issues 
> though. Can't remember which model XD though.
>

Aaron 

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[RBW] FS: Jandd, Sackville, Nitto Bullmoose, Carradice

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[RBW] Compass on tour?

[Ty Graham]

Hi, I rode seattle to San Francisco on 700x38 Barlow Pass non EL. 905 miles no 
flats. Carried a spare but never needed. 
Pretty close to your load. I'm 240 and had a full sackville large, but no 
camping gear.
Only tire I want to ride from here on out. 

Ty Graham (Seattle)
2000 Atlantis

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[RBW] barlow pass

[Carla Waugh]

I ordered some Barlow Pass tires for summer and hope they are as fun to ride as 
the 650 B Compass tires I use.

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Re: [RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Nick Payne]

Here's a few pictures I took of the bike when I first built it up:
http://www.users.on.net/~njpayne/bikestuff/riv/

On 6/05/2017 4:43 AM, Patrick Moore wrote:
> I don't really care for orange, even though Eddy rode orange (which is
> why he will never be surpassed and why Velominati exists). But this
> dark cinnamon orange -- now that is just /too/ pretty for a bike!
>
> Care to show a a pic of the whole thing?
>
> And I thought desert sage green with cream was the cat's pyjamas.
>
> Patrick "you say pajamas, I say pyjamas" in ABQ, NM.
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Nick Payne  > wrote:
>
> Tout passe, tout casse, tout lasse. But in spite of that French
> saying, I've had an orange Riv custom for the past 16 years or so
> and the colour hasn't yet palled:
>
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Julian Westerhout]

Daniel, 

As Vince explained it to me, there are two variations depending upon size 
of HHH. We have a large, and the kit included a 203mm rotor, a Shimano 
Acera disc brake, and an appropriate rotor/brake mount. The cost of these 
was $51. There were also several options for controlling it -- I opted out 
of those as we're going to use a vintage Suntour XC thumb shifter on the 
stoker handlebar to control the drag brake. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 6:46:08 PM UTC-5, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>
> Julian,
>
> What's included in the disc drag brake kit?
>
> Thanks,
> D. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Kieran J]

I like my orange Rambouillet for the most part. It's very distinctive and 
unique. Sometimes I do get tired of the creamsicle colour; it does 
sometimes feel a bit dated and it doesn't match all my clothing. I have 
thought at times about a repaint in a more neutral tone. Then I think about 
how it would be a shame to blast that nutty 3D metallic paint off, and I 
like it again.

KJ


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>
> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions on 
> this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you find 
> yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
> colors? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Daniel Jackson]

Julian,

What's included in the disc drag brake kit?

Thanks,
D. 

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Re: [RBW] OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[Patrick Moore]

I don't understand: why would the chain get caught between the *rear* cogs
of a 10 speed cassette? They're closer together than 9 are. Do you mean,
the narrower chain might get caught between the chainrings, being "9 speed"
and not 10?

As far as it working, I don't see why not. I'm using an old Ritchey Logic
crankset, from the 8 speed era (?) with a home brew 10 speed and it works
fine; High/Low: 42/28.  I've used 5 speed era cranks (TA Pro 5 Vis), again,
High/Low, with 9 speed cassettes; I did have the chain skate once or twice
between the rings but it went away for some reason. I certainly didn't do
anything to it. The rings and hardware were all old and, AFAIK, original.

I think -- am I right? -- that cranksets are very tolerant of different
chains; that's been my experience. Cassettes are more finicky, of course.

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Coconutbill  wrote:

> Im curious about whether anyone here has has experimented with a drive
> train like this: 10 speed rear cassette (for instance 11-42), in
> combination with a Sugino Wide Low crankset.
> The logical concern would be whether or not the chain would get stuck
> between the rear cogs, as the Wide Low is meant for up to 9 speed.
> Is it possible that with the correct gearing this could work?
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2010 Wisconsin Hillborne

[Rod Connor]

It's a 52cm.

Sent from my iPad

> On May 5, 2017, at 5:12 PM, DB  wrote:
> 
> What size is it?
> 
>> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 1:56:47 PM UTC-7, rod...@verizon.net wrote:
>> Spoke with and have confirmed with Dave @ Rivendell that this is indeed a 
>> Wisconsin built 2010 Hillborne. Gently ridden and well maintained. Asking 
>> 900.00 plus shipping firm.
>> Rod
>> 
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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[reynoldslugs]

+1 for Jock's Ebisu.

Twins, seperated at birth (at Jitensha Design):

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157632906410829

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 1:56:44 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Orange Ebisu?  APPROVE
>
>

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[RBW] Re: OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[Orc]

I've done a 10-speed chain with a Sugino 0x801d, which is similarly meant 
for up to 9 speed.   Biopace, so I couldn't do anything fancy with the 
rings to get them closer together, but no chain suck, even with 48/28 
chainrings.

-david parsons

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 2:17:49 PM UTC-7, Coconutbill wrote:
>
> Im curious about whether anyone here has has experimented with a drive 
> train like this: 10 speed rear cassette (for instance 11-42), in 
> combination with a Sugino Wide Low crankset.
> The logical concern would be whether or not the chain would get stuck 
> between the rear cogs, as the Wide Low is meant for up to 9 speed. 
> Is it possible that with the correct gearing this could work? 
>

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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[sameness]

No kidding. That's there's a major looker. The only thing I'd change about 
that rig is whose garage it slept in.

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 1:56:44 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Orange Ebisu?  APPROVE
>
> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 1:47:41 PM UTC-7, Jock Dewey wrote:
>>
>> Hey, EddyBOBs:
>>
>> Love this orange more and more, hour by hour, day by day, week by week, 
>> year by year. 
>>
>> Just simply can't get enough riding or admiring or polishing or showing 
>> off. No apologies for any of it either, ha!
>>
>> BEST & Good Luck Finding *Your* Orange 
>>
>> Jock Dewey / Athens, GA 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions 
>>> on this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you 
>>> find yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
>>> colors? 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] OTT: 10 speed X Wide Low(2x)?

[Coconutbill]

Im curious about whether anyone here has has experimented with a drive 
train like this: 10 speed rear cassette (for instance 11-42), in 
combination with a Sugino Wide Low crankset.
The logical concern would be whether or not the chain would get stuck 
between the rear cogs, as the Wide Low is meant for up to 9 speed. 
Is it possible that with the correct gearing this could work? 

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[RBW] Re: 2010 Wisconsin Hillborne

[DB]

What size is it?

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 1:56:47 PM UTC-7, rod...@verizon.net wrote:
>
> Spoke with and have confirmed with Dave @ Rivendell that this is indeed a 
> Wisconsin built 2010 Hillborne. Gently ridden and well maintained. Asking 
> 900.00 plus shipping firm.
>
> Rod
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Shoji Takahashi]

APPROVE. 

I'm at the bottom of the list, and on the other the side of the 
Mississippi-- it'll prolly be a while longer before I can lift it 
outtadabox. Similar build choices, too: boscos, silver crank, rich-tandem 
wheelset. BTW: I like the look of the fork curve on Grant's Blahg.

Looking forward to seeing the build pics from everyone!

shoji
Arlington MA



On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 4:30:30 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> As some of you have noticed on my Instagram, I picked up my Small Sage 
> HubbuHubbuH today.  Grant snapped a photo of me holding the frame up with 
> one of his old timey film cameras.  My kit included:
>
> Small Sage Frameset (includes headset, seatposts, Nitto 'moose stoker stem)
> Bosco Bullmoose threadless captain bars
> 58cm Bosco stoker bars
> 170mm Silver crankset
> 2x110mm BBs
> 2xMKS Sneaker pedals
> a few extralong cables
>
> I had everything else already, including my Rich-built tandem wheelset. 
>  I'm going to go without a disc brake to start.  
>
> I saw the Orange and I like it, but I would not call it Creamsicle.  It's 
> much more vibrant than a Creamsicle orange. 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>
> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:59:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> Haha.  I called Will and had a little guilt-therapy.  He said come on by, 
>> so I'll drive by and pick up my SMALL Sage tomorrow morning.  
>>
>> BL in EC
>>
>> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:28:51 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>>>
>>> Let's see how long you can hold off... :-)
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:24 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>>
 Yeah I'm torn.  I'm super excited to go pick mine up, but I'm wracked 
 with bike shop guilt about Mark and Brian's stress level trying to make 
 everybody happy.  I kind of feel like staying out of their way for a 
 couple 
 weeks to let the dust settle.  On the other hand, I really like doing 
 builds and showing them off.  

 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA




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[RBW] Re: D2R2 2017

[Brad]

I've been wanting to ride the D2R2 for a long time, but work always 
conflicted. This year I committed early and paid up for the 160k. I have 
one friend riding the 160k with me and a handful of friends riding the 100k 
(and one riding the 180k). I'm excited. I'm not riding my Riv though. Seems 
like the ride's probably not appropriate for the Quickbeam.

Brad
Queens

On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 10:50:59 PM UTC-4, Peter H wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Anyone heading to the D2R2 this year?
>
> Sounds/looks like a great ride and a fun mellow weekend. 
>
> I'm thinking of heading up and trying to decide on bringing the whole 
> family, anyone on the list bring kids before?
>
> -Peter
>
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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Bill Lindsay]

Orange Ebisu?  APPROVE

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 1:47:41 PM UTC-7, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, EddyBOBs:
>
> Love this orange more and more, hour by hour, day by day, week by week, 
> year by year. 
>
> Just simply can't get enough riding or admiring or polishing or showing 
> off. No apologies for any of it either, ha!
>
> BEST & Good Luck Finding *Your* Orange 
>
> Jock Dewey / Athens, GA 
>
>
>
> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>>
>> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions 
>> on this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you 
>> find yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
>> colors? 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Bill Lindsay]

As some of you have noticed on my Instagram, I picked up my Small Sage 
HubbuHubbuH today.  Grant snapped a photo of me holding the frame up with 
one of his old timey film cameras.  My kit included:

Small Sage Frameset (includes headset, seatposts, Nitto 'moose stoker stem)
Bosco Bullmoose threadless captain bars
58cm Bosco stoker bars
170mm Silver crankset
2x110mm BBs
2xMKS Sneaker pedals
a few extralong cables

I had everything else already, including my Rich-built tandem wheelset. 
 I'm going to go without a disc brake to start.  

I saw the Orange and I like it, but I would not call it Creamsicle.  It's 
much more vibrant than a Creamsicle orange. 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA


On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:59:34 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Haha.  I called Will and had a little guilt-therapy.  He said come on by, 
> so I'll drive by and pick up my SMALL Sage tomorrow morning.  
>
> BL in EC
>
> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:28:51 PM UTC-7, René wrote:
>>
>> Let's see how long you can hold off... :-)
>>
>> On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 3:24 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah I'm torn.  I'm super excited to go pick mine up, but I'm wracked 
>>> with bike shop guilt about Mark and Brian's stress level trying to make 
>>> everybody happy.  I kind of feel like staying out of their way for a couple 
>>> weeks to let the dust settle.  On the other hand, I really like doing 
>>> builds and showing them off.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[Andrew Huston]

Actually I meant I had it all set with you Rene. Still need one!  

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Modern" Components on a Riv?

[ted]

I would guess because dual pivots and center pulls are easier to set up, it 
saves 4 things to braze on just right, and Paul racers or other side pulls let 
you use all the clearance the frame provides.
You want more clearance buy a hunqapillar.

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Re: [RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Patrick Moore]

I'll forgive you the orange for the Della Santa.

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Addison Wilhite 
wrote:

> I have my Molteni orange Della Santa and it just makes me happy gazing at
> that color.  I just posted some photos of spring cleaning it:
>
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/05/what-spring-
> cleaning-means-to-cyclist.html
>
> I also own the Burnt Orange Riv Allrounder and it's such a warm caramel
> orange and very classy.
>
> I just don't think you can go too wrong with it although my experience is
> the color works best on more classic looking bikes.
>
> Best,
>
>
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> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Jim S.  wrote:
>
>> Ryan and Rene:
>>
>> I wonder how the tandem orange compares to the Cheviot and the Sam
>> Hilborne orange. Rene says that's it's creamsicle orange. Is that the same
>> as one of the oranges already out there?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:15:31 AM UTC-5, Ryan Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>> No and I have two, a Cheviot and Sam Hillborne.  Although I may have
>>> overdone it with ordering our HHH in orange.
>>>
>>> Ryan
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:

 Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions
 on this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you
 find yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other
 colors?

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Re: [RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Patrick Moore]

I don't really care for orange, even though Eddy rode orange (which is why
he will never be surpassed and why Velominati exists). But this dark
cinnamon orange -- now that is just *too* pretty for a bike!

Care to show a a pic of the whole thing?

And I thought desert sage green with cream was the cat's pyjamas.

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On Thu, May 4, 2017 at 9:29 PM, Nick Payne  wrote:

> Tout passe, tout casse, tout lasse. But in spite of that French saying,
> I've had an orange Riv custom for the past 16 years or so and the colour
> hasn't yet palled:
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Re: [RBW] Re: "Modern" Components on a Riv?

[Patrick Moore]

I wonder why they switched from cantilevers? Mine had the most wonderful
IRDs, best brakes I've ever used (this with Noodles and Tektros) and I
generally dislike cantis with drop bar levers.

Anyway, they solve the reach problem and maximize clearance for the frame.

If that Sam had had a shorter tt and took 2" tires, I'd probably not now
own a Matthews.

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> I think mafac racers are too short reach for a Sam. Paul racer m and mafac
> racer would work for a rodeo. On a hilsen or Sam you would use the regular
> Paul racer or the mafac raid or its compas reincarnation.
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Re: [RBW] Re: "Modern" Components on a Riv?

[ted]

I think mafac racers are too short reach for a Sam. Paul racer m and mafac 
racer would work for a rodeo. On a hilsen or Sam you would use the regular Paul 
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

[Julian Westerhout]

I got a message from Vince last night and called him today -- our large 
orange HHH will be shipped soon -- and they have a disc drag brake kit as 
an option, which was news to me (and which I ordered). Yippee! 

Tim, have a great tour! 

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 7:50:08 AM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
>
> Dave just called last night and they're shipping my S Azure Grey tandem. 
> And the heck of it is, I'm heading out on a bike tour Monday and won't even 
> get to see it until the middle of June when I get back. But I'll get to 
> visit Riv HQ while I'm away, which I'm really looking forward to. 

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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[René Sterental]

No worries, you gave me a good laugh!

René

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 10:08 AM Bob Lovejoy  wrote:

> Sorry!  I was just typing stream of consciousness and did not even see
> your post!  It's what I get work working on shifters, listening to the KBOO
> Bike Show podcast and typing at the same time.  Exceeding limits here,
> obviously!
>
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>
>
> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
>> Ja ja ja ja, underpricing me and got caught! No worries, I'll match your
>> price but if yours are like new with no scratches, they're a better option.
>> I won't underprice you... yet. But offers are ok!
>>
>> René
>>
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:55 AM Bob Lovejoy  wrote:
>>
> Sorry, meant to send that directly and not to the list...  oops!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:53:41 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:

 Hello Conway,

 I have some 610mm (the wider version, I think) in silver if you are
 interested.  They have been mounted but I decided on the narrower version
 for the bike I was testing.  Anyway, they are almost new!  I could send
 pictures as well if those would be helpful.

 I could sell for $45 including shipping CONUS.  Let me know and
 absolutely no worries if you have already found some.

 Thanks,

 Bob Lovejoy
 Galesburg, IL


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>
> If people have sets available, I'd be interested in one in each width
> for my tandem.  Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 60cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Richard Rios]

nice. someone is gonna be very happy quickbeams and simpleones are SWEET bike$!

Best,
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[RBW] Re: New Chev

[Kai Vierstra]

Bridget and I've worked together on many occasions at multiple institutions, 
and yes, she's the coolest by far. As far as basket support up front, I only 
like lowriders up front coupled with a small barrel bag on the bars. That high 
centered load never feels good to me on my Quickbeam or my Clem (yup, that 
Clem, I love the Brooklyn to Jersey commute featuring the watertaxi)
-Kai 
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Re: [Ext] [RBW] Re: FS: 58 Simple One, Phil Hubs, Eno Crank and Eno FreeWheel, $1250

[Allingham II, Thomas J. (Retired Partner)]

Excellent price, too.  My QB is my favorite among several Rivendell (and, for 
that matter, non-Rivendell) bikes

Sent from my iPhone

On May 4, 2017, at 1:58 PM, Minh 
> wrote:

+1 on this, great bike, great build, great price.  my favorite bike.

if i was nitpicky, the only thing i'd hold against it is that it's not green.  
but then you'll likely have one of the few red ones.

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 12:39:44 PM UTC-4, allenmichael wrote:
The Quickbeams and Simple Ones are some of Rivendell's finest bicycles. My wife 
and I have plans to move on to a boat early next year, and I need to begin the 
process of selling large, more difficult to store items such as this bike (and 
a 56 Sam Hillborne that I will post after this bike moves on to a different 
owner). I'm only going to be able to have one full bike, and I want something 
that I can take off road, over rough country, and with a load. So ... up for 
sale.

The purchaser of this bike will likely discover it is their very favorite bike.

This version of the simple one has canti brakes and lots of braze-ons. The rims 
are CR-18's, the hubs are Phil Wood, the crank and freewheel are from White 
Industries. Matching Brooks saddle and Plump Grips.

The bike is in Portland, Oregon. The price is for local pick up. I'm willing to 
take it to a shop for boxing and to ship it on bike flights but at the buyer's 
expense.

Took lots of pictures yesterday: 
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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[Bob Lovejoy]

Sorry!  I was just typing stream of consciousness and did not even see your 
post!  It's what I get work working on shifters, listening to the KBOO Bike 
Show podcast and typing at the same time.  Exceeding limits here, obviously!

Bob


On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, René wrote:
>
> Ja ja ja ja, underpricing me and got caught! No worries, I'll match your 
> price but if yours are like new with no scratches, they're a better option. 
> I won't underprice you... yet. But offers are ok!
>
> René 
>
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:55 AM Bob Lovejoy  > wrote:
>
>> Sorry, meant to send that directly and not to the list...  oops!  
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:53:41 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Conway,
>>>
>>> I have some 610mm (the wider version, I think) in silver if you are 
>>> interested.  They have been mounted but I decided on the narrower version 
>>> for the bike I was testing.  Anyway, they are almost new!  I could send 
>>> pictures as well if those would be helpful.
>>>
>>> I could sell for $45 including shipping CONUS.  Let me know and 
>>> absolutely no worries if you have already found some.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Bob Lovejoy
>>> Galesburg, IL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:26:23 AM UTC-5, Conway Bennett wrote:

 If people have sets available, I'd be interested in one in each width 
 for my tandem.  Thanks in advance.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[René Sterental]

Ja ja ja ja, underpricing me and got caught! No worries, I'll match your
price but if yours are like new with no scratches, they're a better option.
I won't underprice you... yet. But offers are ok!

René

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:55 AM Bob Lovejoy  wrote:

> Sorry, meant to send that directly and not to the list...  oops!
>
>
> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:53:41 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>>
>> Hello Conway,
>>
>> I have some 610mm (the wider version, I think) in silver if you are
>> interested.  They have been mounted but I decided on the narrower version
>> for the bike I was testing.  Anyway, they are almost new!  I could send
>> pictures as well if those would be helpful.
>>
>> I could sell for $45 including shipping CONUS.  Let me know and
>> absolutely no worries if you have already found some.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Bob Lovejoy
>> Galesburg, IL
>>
>>
>> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:26:23 AM UTC-5, Conway Bennett wrote:
>>>
>>> If people have sets available, I'd be interested in one in each width
>>> for my tandem.  Thanks in advance.
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[Bob Lovejoy]

Sorry, meant to send that directly and not to the list...  oops!  

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:53:41 AM UTC-5, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> Hello Conway,
>
> I have some 610mm (the wider version, I think) in silver if you are 
> interested.  They have been mounted but I decided on the narrower version 
> for the bike I was testing.  Anyway, they are almost new!  I could send 
> pictures as well if those would be helpful.
>
> I could sell for $45 including shipping CONUS.  Let me know and absolutely 
> no worries if you have already found some.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob Lovejoy
> Galesburg, IL
>
>
> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 11:26:23 AM UTC-5, Conway Bennett wrote:
>>
>> If people have sets available, I'd be interested in one in each width for 
>> my tandem.  Thanks in advance.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Choco bars - again

[René Sterental]

For me, it was love at first ride. Total opposite experience when I tried
the Albatross bars several times.

René

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 9:40 AM Jim S.  wrote:

> Chris, I like the choco norms. I think this bar would be interchangeable
> with the albatross bar, except that its arguably better in a couple of
> ways. First, it goes back a bit farther, and second, there's a nice flat
> area on the front to grip for an alternative.
>
> If you think it goes back too far, not to spend your money for you, but
> you could keep the choco bars and order a shorter stem.
>
> Possible downside to choco norms is that maybe albatross bars look nicer,
> more swoopy, less utilitarian, but such distinctions are matters of taste.
>
> I have albatross on a Cheviot, and choco norm on a Rosco, and I think
> they're both very appropriate. My hands have never hurt with either bar.
>
>
> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:23:34 AM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
>> I am the proud new owner of a 2017 Appaloosa in silver.  I planned on
>> getting one directly from Riv but waited too long and they were all gone.
>> So, I started dialing up all the dealers and The Wheelhouse LA said they
>> had a built up butternut in 51 (my size) but would check the boxes in back
>> from Riv.  Well, sure enough, they found a 2017 silver.  YAY!
>>
>> So, I just got my bike yesterday from my LBS who turned it into a 1X10
>> (did this to my San Marcos too).  Love the Joe but the jury is still out on
>> the Choco norms.  I have an extra Albatross but didn't want to change it
>> out too quickly after just one ride.  So, my questions are; did it take you
>> guys some time to warm up to the Chocos?  If you changed bars, what did you
>> go with?
>>
>> Just as a perspective I have the Bullmoose on my Sam and Cheviot.  I have
>> Ahearne-Map on my Quickbeam and Alba's on the San Marcos.  I really like
>> the angle and width of the Bullmooses but since I already have 2 bikes with
>> that, was hoping for a different bar - IF I decide to change.
>> Chris
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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[Bob Lovejoy]

Hello Conway,

I have some 610mm (the wider version, I think) in silver if you are 
interested.  They have been mounted but I decided on the narrower version 
for the bike I was testing.  Anyway, they are almost new!  I could send 
pictures as well if those would be helpful.

I could sell for $45 including shipping CONUS.  Let me know and absolutely 
no worries if you have already found some.

Thanks,

Bob Lovejoy
Galesburg, IL


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>
> If people have sets available, I'd be interested in one in each width for 
> my tandem.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[René Sterental]

I have a silver 610mm version with some scratches from trying to insert it
with the Nitto shims. -$50 including shipping to Conusa.

It's possible I may have a second one.

René

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> If people have sets available, I'd be interested in one in each width for
> my tandem.  Thanks in advance.
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[RBW] Re: Choco bars - again

[Jim S.]

Chris, I like the choco norms. I think this bar would be interchangeable 
with the albatross bar, except that its arguably better in a couple of 
ways. First, it goes back a bit farther, and second, there's a nice flat 
area on the front to grip for an alternative.

If you think it goes back too far, not to spend your money for you, but you 
could keep the choco bars and order a shorter stem.

Possible downside to choco norms is that maybe albatross bars look nicer, 
more swoopy, less utilitarian, but such distinctions are matters of taste.

I have albatross on a Cheviot, and choco norm on a Rosco, and I think 
they're both very appropriate. My hands have never hurt with either bar.


On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:23:34 AM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> I am the proud new owner of a 2017 Appaloosa in silver.  I planned on 
> getting one directly from Riv but waited too long and they were all gone.  
> So, I started dialing up all the dealers and The Wheelhouse LA said they 
> had a built up butternut in 51 (my size) but would check the boxes in back 
> from Riv.  Well, sure enough, they found a 2017 silver.  YAY!
>
> So, I just got my bike yesterday from my LBS who turned it into a 1X10 
> (did this to my San Marcos too).  Love the Joe but the jury is still out on 
> the Choco norms.  I have an extra Albatross but didn't want to change it 
> out too quickly after just one ride.  So, my questions are; did it take you 
> guys some time to warm up to the Chocos?  If you changed bars, what did you 
> go with?
>
> Just as a perspective I have the Bullmoose on my Sam and Cheviot.  I have 
> Ahearne-Map on my Quickbeam and Alba's on the San Marcos.  I really like 
> the angle and width of the Bullmooses but since I already have 2 bikes with 
> that, was hoping for a different bar - IF I decide to change.  
> Chris
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[Conway Bennett]

If people have sets available, I'd be interested in one in each width for my 
tandem.  Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[Joe Bunik]

anyone have a spare BLACK version clunking around? and any possible
interest in swapping for a silver?
- Joe

On 5/5/17, René Sterental  wrote:
> No problem. Glad you found one!
>
> René
> On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 7:27 AM Andrew Huston <
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>> All set here, thanks!
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Re: [RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[René Sterental]

No problem. Glad you found one!

René
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[RBW] Re: Choco bars - again

[Ryan Fleming]

I have to say, I'm not sure I'm too comfortable on the Choco norms yet 
either.. when I got on my mixte they still felt too far back and the front 
felt a little twitchy. Mixte is also   quite a bit more  upright than I'm 
used to.I am a long-time moustache bar rider...stem level with saddle , 
back at 45 degree angle or so but I can flatten my back a little more  if I 
need to on my other bikes

Think I have to just give myself some time to get used to them; the mixte 
is a very different kind of a horse and I feel sure all will be good

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:23:34 AM UTC-5, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> I am the proud new owner of a 2017 Appaloosa in silver.  I planned on 
> getting one directly from Riv but waited too long and they were all gone.  
> So, I started dialing up all the dealers and The Wheelhouse LA said they 
> had a built up butternut in 51 (my size) but would check the boxes in back 
> from Riv.  Well, sure enough, they found a 2017 silver.  YAY!
>
> So, I just got my bike yesterday from my LBS who turned it into a 1X10 
> (did this to my San Marcos too).  Love the Joe but the jury is still out on 
> the Choco norms.  I have an extra Albatross but didn't want to change it 
> out too quickly after just one ride.  So, my questions are; did it take you 
> guys some time to warm up to the Chocos?  If you changed bars, what did you 
> go with?
>
> Just as a perspective I have the Bullmoose on my Sam and Cheviot.  I have 
> Ahearne-Map on my Quickbeam and Alba's on the San Marcos.  I really like 
> the angle and width of the Bullmooses but since I already have 2 bikes with 
> that, was hoping for a different bar - IF I decide to change.  
> Chris
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Addison Wilhite]

I have my Molteni orange Della Santa and it just makes me happy gazing at
that color.  I just posted some photos of spring cleaning it:

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/05/what-spring-cleaning-means-to-cyclist.html

I also own the Burnt Orange Riv Allrounder and it's such a warm caramel
orange and very classy.

I just don't think you can go too wrong with it although my experience is
the color works best on more classic looking bikes.

Best,


Addison Wilhite, M.A.

Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 

*“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*

Educator: Professional Portfolio 

Blogger: Reno Rambler 




On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Jim S.  wrote:

> Ryan and Rene:
>
> I wonder how the tandem orange compares to the Cheviot and the Sam
> Hilborne orange. Rene says that's it's creamsicle orange. Is that the same
> as one of the oranges already out there?
>
>
>
> On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:15:31 AM UTC-5, Ryan Thompson wrote:
>>
>> No and I have two, a Cheviot and Sam Hillborne.  Although I may have
>> overdone it with ordering our HHH in orange.
>>
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>>>
>>> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions
>>> on this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you
>>> find yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other
>>> colors?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Jim S.]

Ryan and Rene: 

I wonder how the tandem orange compares to the Cheviot and the Sam Hilborne 
orange. Rene says that's it's creamsicle orange. Is that the same as one of 
the oranges already out there?



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>
> No and I have two, a Cheviot and Sam Hillborne.  Although I may have 
> overdone it with ordering our HHH in orange.
>
> Ryan
>
> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>>
>> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions 
>> on this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you 
>> find yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
>> colors? 
>>
>

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[RBW] Choco bars - again

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I am the proud new owner of a 2017 Appaloosa in silver.  I planned on 
getting one directly from Riv but waited too long and they were all gone.  
So, I started dialing up all the dealers and The Wheelhouse LA said they 
had a built up butternut in 51 (my size) but would check the boxes in back 
from Riv.  Well, sure enough, they found a 2017 silver.  YAY!

So, I just got my bike yesterday from my LBS who turned it into a 1X10 (did 
this to my San Marcos too).  Love the Joe but the jury is still out on the 
Choco norms.  I have an extra Albatross but didn't want to change it out 
too quickly after just one ride.  So, my questions are; did it take you 
guys some time to warm up to the Chocos?  If you changed bars, what did you 
go with?

Just as a perspective I have the Bullmoose on my Sam and Cheviot.  I have 
Ahearne-Map on my Quickbeam and Alba's on the San Marcos.  I really like 
the angle and width of the Bullmooses but since I already have 2 bikes with 
that, was hoping for a different bar - IF I decide to change.  
Chris

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Re: [RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Eric Floden]

My wife and I decided last year to treat ourselves to nice new rides -- she
got an orange Bombadil, and I got an orange BMC monstercross.  We are both
still tickled with the colours, one year on.  They both look sharp!

(When I had Gilles Bertrand build me a bike back in 1999 I got to pick the
colour and went for cobalt blue, which I still enjoy as well...)

BTW, I added some yellow reflective tape on my lock and was happily
surprised at how well it went with the orange.

Plus mention orange and it will provide a springboard for Grandson to tell
his orange knock-knock joke, which I have heard less than 1,000 times (so
far).

Eric "When I was young I had orange hair" Floden
Vancouver BC

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 60cm Quickbeam on eBay

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Great!  It looked like a nice bike to me.  I have one and it is a wonderful 
rider.  

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 11:10:45 PM UTC-4, Neil wrote:
>
> Quickbeam is SOLD! Thanks for everyone's interest.
>
> On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 8:44:00 AM UTC-4, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/rivendell-quickbeam-singlespeed-bicycle-60-cm-nitto-phil-wood-honjo-brooks-/391772091525
>>
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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Ryan Thompson]

No and I have two, a Cheviot and Sam Hillborne.  Although I may have 
overdone it with ordering our HHH in orange.

Ryan

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>
> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions on 
> this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you find 
> yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
> colors? 
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[RBW] barlow pass

[Bruce Baker]

Hey,
I just talked to Compass Bicycles.  They plan on having the Barlow Pass
tires back in stock sometime next week.  Definitely going to pick some up
for my Sam for this riding season.  Sounds like a good fit from the most
recent thread...

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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I have a new(er) Sam in orange.  I really like it.  I have cream colored 
tires on it and it is very striking if I may say so.

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 10:59:33 AM UTC-4, anniebikes wrote:
>
> I badly wanted an orange Clementine, but sadly the color was discontinued 
> when I ordered. I chose blue over mustard because I felt it would have 
> staying power with me. The blue, IMO, is just okay. I still want an orange 
> bike!
>
> On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 3:19:02 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
>>
>> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions 
>> on this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you 
>> find yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
>> colors? 
>>
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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[stevef]

If anything, owning such a nice looking orange bike (Rambouillet) has made 
me a bigger fan of the color.  I seek/admire other orange bikes and have 
orange and orange trimmed gear (jersey, helmet, etc)  

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>
> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions on 
> this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you find 
> yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
> colors? 
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[RBW] Re: regarding orange bikes

[anniebikes]

I badly wanted an orange Clementine, but sadly the color was discontinued 
when I ordered. I chose blue over mustard because I felt it would have 
staying power with me. The blue, IMO, is just okay. I still want an orange 
bike!

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>
> Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions on 
> this board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you find 
> yourself getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other 
> colors? 
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Re: [RBW] Re: "Modern" Components on a Riv?

[Steve Palincsar]

Or Mafac Racers, if the budget can't extend to the Pauls?  Plenty of 
them available for cheap.  In fact, I ended up with a surplus set myself.



On 05/05/2017 10:45 AM, Will Ashe wrote:

Good call on brake compatibility. I planning on using Paul Racers if I can 
squeeze them in my budget, if not, then Tektro Sidepulls.

I think the Racers will be fine, but I'm unsure about long reach sidepulls.



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Re: [RBW] Re: "Modern" Components on a Riv?

[Tim Gavin]

Paul Racers should work fine with SRAM road brake levers or brifters.

AFAIK, although Shimano has slightly changed the cable pull of its road
brakes in recent generations, neither SRAM nor Campagnolo has changed
theirs.  SRAM and Campy brake levers have the same short cable pull they've
had for years, at least since "aero" road levers came out mid-80s.

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> Good call on brake compatibility. I planning on using Paul Racers if I can
> squeeze them in my budget, if not, then Tektro Sidepulls.
>
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[RBW] Re: "Modern" Components on a Riv?

[Will Ashe]

Good call on brake compatibility. I planning on using Paul Racers if I can 
squeeze them in my budget, if not, then Tektro Sidepulls. 

I think the Racers will be fine, but I'm unsure about long reach sidepulls. 

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[RBW] Re: D2R2 2017

[somervillebikes]

I rode the D2R2 in 2011, 2012 and 2013 (115k once and 100k twice, never had 
the balls for anything longer-- even the 100k is pretty challenging), but I 
haven't been back since. I may make it back this year. One thing that 
prompted me to take a break from it, despite the breathtaking beauty of the 
area, was the crowds, which seemed to get bigger each year. The vibe is 
really good overall, but increasingly there were racing teams that were 
riding it as training, not taking in the experience as it was intended, and 
there were also lots of groups of people who were riding abreast and taking 
up the whole road. It kind of turned me off by the third time, but on the 
other hand, it's a wonderful cause, and the food and beer are plentiful and 
very good. I believe all routes take in part of the Green River route, but 
I'm guessing the Green River ride itself is a lot more relaxed (and flat). 

Anton
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On Monday, April 24, 2017 at 10:50:59 PM UTC-4, Peter H wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Anyone heading to the D2R2 this year?
>
> Sounds/looks like a great ride and a fun mellow weekend. 
>
> I'm thinking of heading up and trying to decide on bringing the whole 
> family, anyone on the list bring kids before?
>
> -Peter
>
>

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[RBW] WTB Map Ahearne Bar

[Andrew Huston]

All set here, thanks!

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[RBW] Re: Shop Sack Durability

[Marc Irwin]

I'm going on 5 years and am really happy with the durability of the bags. 
 The corners of my small green shop sack have gotten worn but that's about 
it.  I use it more than the large one.

Marc

On Tuesday, May 2, 2017 at 2:21:15 PM UTC-4, Timothy Orr wrote:
>
> Hey, Y'all 
>
> I've been using my large shop sack nearly every day for the last seven 
> months. I love it. However, one of the corners is forming a hole. I soft of 
> thought it would last forever, but it's not looking good at this rate. 
> Anyone had experiences with durability? Is this normal? 
>
> Thanks! 
> Tim 
> Portland, OR 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Chev

[Les Lammers]

Cool painting! I simply zip tied the basket to a Nitto M18 and scrapped the 
Wald struts. Very solid

On Thursday, May 4, 2017 at 2:53:13 PM UTC-4, Antone Könst wrote:

> Got my dream frame, 60 orange chevy, from Clayton a few weeks ago.  He did 
> a great job packing and shipping BTW>
>
> Been riding like a dream, even with all the cheap parts from my faux-riv 
> Nishiki build and ugly electrical tape (there intentionally bad, to deter 
> thieves).   Paul Racers and Thumbies, and the dynamo hub and lights in 
> front and back are the exception there.  
>
> One weird thing is the Surly 8-Pack I put on there...the Wald struts and a 
> shoelace help keep it in place since there isn't anything besides the 
> mid-fork mount keeping it horizontal otherwise...probably will engineer one 
> tho since I've been putting my puppy upfront for the 5 mile ride to my 
> studio along the East River.  She hates it, BTW, any tips on dogs on a bike 
> are welcome!  
>
> Other image is a painting I made, Night Rider, up now at Hometown Gallery 
> in Brooklyn.  Just thought this group might appreciate it :) 
>
> I love this bike, it makes me happy every day. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: D2R2 2017

[Deacon Patrick]

Congratulations, Peter! What a blessing!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 5:47:44 AM UTC-6, Peter H wrote:
>
>  including our newborn son
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compass on tour?

[Ed Fausto]

I had the same experience with Jon.  I used Marathon Supremes on my 51cm
Atlantis (26") and I only had 2 flats during my TransAmerica tour last year.
Ed

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Jon BALER  wrote:

> I've had really good luck with Marathon Supremes on touring bikes.  I have
> 38/40, my wife has 35 mm, and I think we have had 1 flat total over about
> 3-4,000 miles each.
>
> I've had the 38mm Soma Shikora tires on my commuter for the last year, and
> probably had 3 flats over ~3,000 miles. But I would gladly buy these
> tires again, and love their performance.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 4:23:56 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>>
>> This is correct; there are no invulnerable tires.  For touring, the
>> Marathon Supreme provides better puncture protection than a more
>> performance oriented tire, but at the cost of weight & ride.  Sort of like
>> the old saying about "cheap, fast, & good; pick 2 out of 3".
>>
>> FWIW, I've punctured a 47 mm Marathon Touring Plus (970 grams of stout
>> German rubber).  OTH, I had one Marathon Supreme that went over 11,000
>> miles without a puncture.
>>
>> On tour, the junk on the shoulder is the killer.  The busier the highway,
>> the more crud gets deposited.  Sticking to quieter back roads is a winner.
>> There are places where you are forced onto the interstate & have to deal
>> with Dan's list.  Truck tire treads are a hazard, especially in summer.
>>
>> dougP
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2017 at 10:20:25 AM UTC-7, djm323 wrote:
>>>
>>> Marathon Supremes puncture, too.  I have 42-559 Supremes on my commuter
>>> and have had flats from wire strands, wood screws, roofing nails, narrow
>>> glass shards, etc.  Probably fewer than other tires but they are not
>>> invulnerable.  YMMV.
>>>
>>> :Dan • Chicagaux, USA
>>>
>>> On Monday, May 1, 2017 at 11:42:34 AM UTC-5, Eric Douglas wrote:
>>>
>>>
 On the other hand, if I absolutely wanted to avoid flats I might
 consider Schwalbe Marathon Supremes.

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Hubbuhubbuhs are here!

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dave just called last night and they're shipping my S Azure Grey tandem. And 
the heck of it is, I'm heading out on a bike tour Monday and won't even get to 
see it until the middle of June when I get back. But I'll get to visit Riv HQ 
while I'm away, which I'm really looking forward to. 

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[RBW] Re: D2R2 2017

[Peter H]

Thanks Jay & Broc for following up and giving me an idea of what to expect. I'm 
planning to head up with the family including our newborn son ( hence the 
delayed response!).

Looking forward to seeing some of you from the list there!

Best,

Peter

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[RBW] Re: New Chev

[Howard Hatten]

I like the Pletscher Clem rack that Riv sells. Here's a photo on my Chev. 

Howard
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