[RBW] Re: Warm weather bike clothing, long sleeved

[Deacon Patrick]

Light cotton. Chambray or whatever the puckered stuff is called. Currently 
I 
wear: 
http://www.duluthtrading.com/search/searchresults/51721.aspx?kw=chambray%20mens=content
 

You can see it here: http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/columbine

With abandon,
Patrick

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 10:11:36 PM UTC-6, Michael Williams wrote:
>
> Hey group.  Other than light wool,  what do folks out there like to ride 
> in for sun protective, long sleeve,  warm/ hot weather materials?  

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[RBW] Re: Need new shoes

[Mitch Harris]

Patrick, do I remember correctly you used to pedal barefoot during your 
feet strengthening time? Do you still? Do you have any pedal suggestion for 
barefoot riding? I remember enjoying barefoot riding for a long time in my 
childhood using the rubber sided pedals common on consumer bikes back then. 
There might be a safety issue riding barefoot (thinking like a motorcyclist 
here) but I'd like to try it again. 

+2 on the Giro Republic. My wife with very sensitive choosey feet has said 
her Giro Republic are the best she's felt. She uses Frogs too.

I use Dromartis and Vittoria 1976, both with slot cleats, clips, and 
straps. 

--Mitch 

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 5:32:29 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Michael, I can't help with the shoes, but if you are interested in 
> something that may help the tender feet, I can help with that. I used to 
> have feet so tender (and weak, though I didn't know it, save for my "need" 
> for orthotics) I couldn't walk barefoot in the house on wood floors. Long 
> story short, for other reasons, I began walking barefoot up and down our 
> gravel road (out and back is two-tenths of a mile) daily. Boy howdy! Was 
> that a challenging experience! But my feet woke up and got stronger. They 
> tingled for two weeks straight, like a leg that falls asleep then gets 
> blood back. My feet just needed to escape their prison and be used as God 
> intended and get strong again. Perhaps something similar in your case?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 5:26:39 PM UTC-6, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>>
>> Urgh,  I have this sinking feeling I left my Ausrtin Pedlars  with Frog 
>> cleats at a trail head.  Anyway i can't find them anywhere and that's the 
>> last place I remember seeing them.   They are my all time favorite shoe / 
>> cleat combination. I have very tender feet and the combination of the 
>> pretty stiff sole, moveable cleat and walk about looks provided everything 
>> I wanted.  My web search suggests that Keen no longer makes the pedlar. 
>>  Does anyone know of a source or a good alternative?
>>
>> I gave my White ind. pedals to my wife and see that they are now $239, 
>> ouch.  I looked at the RBW site and they no longer sell the MKS Touring 
>> pedal, which gave me a WTF moment.
>>
>> Suggestions welcome.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[iamkeith]

Yeah, Mark - i think you want you let air out, not add it!

I just took mine off my all rounder and went back to the original 1.75 compass 
tires because it was so tedious to tune the bounce out.  But, in my case, it 
was the rim's fault - not the tire's.

Normally, the way to get a high-volume, supple tire adjusted properly is to 
pump until it just starts to get bouncy, and then let a bit of air out.  The 
smaller the casing, the more forgiving and bigger the acceptable range of 
pressures.  

So, for instance, A 4.5" fat bike tire (on dry, summer trails) will have to be 
within about 1/2 psi of optimum, in order to both steer properly at one end, 
and to not bounce you around like a pogo stick at the other.

A 2.75 - 3" plus-sized tire might have a range of 1 1/2 to 2 psi that works 
and, usually, the lowest you can go without getting pinch flats is the best 
within that range.  There is negligible if any efficiency gain from adding air 
beyond that, but there is noticable degredation of traction and comfort for 
every psi over the minimum needed. 

Following these, the 2.3" RTP SHOULD have a workable range of maybe 3 psi or 
so, for any given load?  But the caveat is that this would require a rim that 
is of adequate width to support the tire.  I didn't have that with my 519 
mavics, so i had to be very careful not to let it get so low that the tire 
would roll off the rim.  Unfortunately, at that point, it was too easy to make 
it start bouncing.

When i did run them at proper, low pressures, they were sublime - but i was 
always nervous about cornering, and rolling a bead.  

For me, at 200lbs, i think something like 23 rear / 19 front would be ideal.  
(As noted, i mostly did/do it by feel) BUT... that would be with a well-matched 
rim of at least 25-30 mm inside dimension.  The wider the rim, the lower you 
can go. 

On the other hand, the smoother and more featureless the riding surface, the 
higher the pressure you can get away with, without feeling the bounce or 
realizing you're over inflated.  But that doesn't mean it's optimum, and i dont 
think there's an efficiency or tread longevity benefit to having more pressure.

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[RBW] Re: Frame build up ideas

[Kai Vierstra]

Yup, Choco-moose rule! And I think they might fit your "Anything somewhere 
between an albastache and an albatross?" As far as shape goes. What's really 
nice about the Bullmoose version is there's no worrying if the stem's right, it 
is what it is and if it works it might be perfect...
-Kai
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[RBW] Warm weather bike clothing, long sleeved

[Michael Williams]

Hey group.  Other than light wool,  what do folks out there like to ride in for 
sun protective, long sleeve,  warm/ hot weather materials?  

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[RBW] Re: Need new shoes

[Sean Kline]

All: it's a completely different style and feel, but if you're interested 
in a classic leather biking shoe, Dromarti is having a sale right 
now: https://dromarti.com/cycling-shoes/sportivo-classic (black or brown). 
I. love. riding. in these. Pricey, even at its sale price of ~$165, but 
strong and comfortable. Again, a very different shoe than Keen.

~Sean

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 4:26:39 PM UTC-7, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Urgh,  I have this sinking feeling I left my Ausrtin Pedlars  with Frog 
> cleats at a trail head.  Anyway i can't find them anywhere and that's the 
> last place I remember seeing them.   They are my all time favorite shoe / 
> cleat combination. I have very tender feet and the combination of the 
> pretty stiff sole, moveable cleat and walk about looks provided everything 
> I wanted.  My web search suggests that Keen no longer makes the pedlar. 
>  Does anyone know of a source or a good alternative?
>
> I gave my White ind. pedals to my wife and see that they are now $239, 
> ouch.  I looked at the RBW site and they no longer sell the MKS Touring 
> pedal, which gave me a WTF moment.
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
> Michael
>

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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I get what feels like bounce feedback when the pressure is too low. Maybe 
what I'm calling bounce is really...squish? I think I know what they mean, 
the kind of bounce when the tire is overinflated, but I only pumped them 
that high to seat initially. I will try a little ride with 50 psi for the 
sake of science. (Re: photo. Thank you.)

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 8:42:05 PM UTC-4, Kellie wrote:
>
> The tire max written on the tire is 55, on the website product description 
> says if it’s too bouncy the pressure is too high.
>
>  Jul 5, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Patrick Moore  
> wrote:
>
>
> Digital gauge for bike tires -- forget make, but said to be accurate to a 
> fraction of a lb per sq inch. I weigh 175.
>
> I'm not disagreeing, just wondering why RTPs need such high pressure when 
> at least one considerably lighter tire needs considerably less,
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Philip Kim  > wrote:
>
>> ahh i was just noting why you may be seeing some higher psi run with RTPs 
>> from other, as 30-40 psi is a bit high for a ~50mm tire.
>>
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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

You would consider 20/28 for relatively smooth road riding high pressure?

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 6:56:02 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Digital gauge for bike tires -- forget make, but said to be accurate to a 
> fraction of a lb per sq inch. I weigh 175.
>
> I'm not disagreeing, just wondering why RTPs need such high pressure when 
> at least one considerably lighter tire needs considerably less,
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Philip Kim  > wrote:
>
>> ahh i was just noting why you may be seeing some higher psi run with RTPs 
>> from other, as 30-40 psi is a bit high for a ~50mm tire.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Philip Kim]

Use a track pump and double check with a tire pressure gauge 
(https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0011W6M4Y/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8=1499308886=8-3=AC_SX236_SY340_QL65=bicycle+tire+pressure+gauge+presta=1=41%2B3C1ZlX1L=plSrch)

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[RBW] Re: Frame build up ideas

[Christopher Murray]

Why not use some bullmoose variant?

Cheers!
Chris

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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Kellie]

Like your photos. Thanks for sharing.

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 2:48:13 PM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
> I've always been slightly curios as to the accuracy of the tire pressure 
> gauges. What are people using, and how are they calibrated? I'm just 
> guessing, but the numbers reported here could be closer, or further apart, 
> or who knows. I know people say there is a smaller optimum range with 
> these, and you need to keep the sidewalls from collapsing, but I think once 
> you ride them a bit it doesn't matter too much.
>
> I've been riding my RTP bike almost exclusively for the past few months. I 
> put some air in, give it a squeeze, make sure not to hard or soft, and go. 
> Then when they start to get bouncy, I put some more in.
>
> Just checked now, and according to the gauge on my Orange pump from 
> Nashbar, I had 20 front, 28 rear. Did a long road ride with lots of 
> climbing yesterday, felt pretty good, but a bit of bounce, so I'll add a 
> few hits. I weigh about 170, and the bike, with handlebar bag and back tool 
> bag, is around the 30pd zone.
>
> I had a mini gauge that came with a flat tire repair kit (that came with a 
> used bike I bought) but I seem to have temporarily misplaced it. I do have 
> a 2nd pump in my car, will check with that and compare.
>
> Anyway, great, fun tire. Also, I have hat zero flats in all kinds of 
> conditions. I run with tubes and a few squirts of orange seal, per Patrick. 
> Knock wood.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:57:59 PM UTC-4, Philip Kim wrote:
>>
>> ahh i was just noting why you may be seeing some higher psi run with RTPs 
>> from other, as 30-40 psi is a bit high for a ~50mm tire.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 2:52:18 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I doubt that the RTP casings are thinner than those of the F Freds. If 
>>> anyone can correct me, I'll stand corrected!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Philip Kim  wrote:
>>>
 35 rear 30 front on atlas rims converted tubeless with load for EL 
 casing. Ran a little less on standard - 30 rear 26-28 front.


 patrick, compass tires require a bit more psi IME than schwalbe tires 
 due to the thin sidewall casings. 



 On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 9:01:20 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> 30 to 40 seems high for a 50+ mm tire. I run my 50 mm labeled/51 
> actual Furious Freds (tubeless) at about 23-24/26-27 for a mix of 
> pavement, 
> sand (up to 3"), and roots and small rocks, and that seems firm.
>
> Note that the F Freds are considerably lighter (360 grams 
> consistently, at least the 3 or 4 I've weighed) than the RTPs, too (and 
> the 
> FFs are 700C tires).
>
> And even 23 seems high compared to the 15/18 and as low as 12 in front 
> that I used in 60 mm Big Apple Liteskins, though these had tubes. Same 
> conditions, though man! 15/18 psi was wonderful in sand! The FFs require 
> more pressure to prevent sidewall flop.
>
> How do you (plural( decide what pressure to choose? 
>
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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Kellie Stapleton]

The tire max written on the tire is 55, on the website product description says 
if it’s too bouncy the pressure is too high.

 Jul 5, 2017, at 3:55 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> Digital gauge for bike tires -- forget make, but said to be accurate to a 
> fraction of a lb per sq inch. I weigh 175.
> 
> I'm not disagreeing, just wondering why RTPs need such high pressure when at 
> least one considerably lighter tire needs considerably less,
> 
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Philip Kim  > wrote:
> ahh i was just noting why you may be seeing some higher psi run with RTPs 
> from other, as 30-40 psi is a bit high for a ~50mm tire.
> 
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[RBW] Re: Frame build up ideas

[drew]

I like the map/ahearne bars for something between albatross and albastache. 
Also I totally get not liking the flex of non bullmoose boscos. 

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[RBW] Re: Road Rash (no pictures)

[Ian A]

Hello Jay,

Hope the rash heals quickly. Slap some pure Aloe Vera on it if you have 
some.

I stocked-up on Vittoria Hyper when Planet X had them on sale, but sold on 
the unused ones and retired the used ones because of having incidents 
exactly like you describe. I had a number of slips, most of which I was 
able to save, when there was any hint of moisture or wet mud on the tires. 
The final straw was when I slipped out at walking speed and landed on my 
face, requiring stitches. There was a hint of ice on the road, but except 
for Kojaks (which are nowhere near as unpredictable), I've never had a tire 
so prone to slip on anything but perfectly dry conditions. 

I sold the Hypers with the information that I was selling them because of 
losing traction and that I no longer trusted the tire.

Your description of the slightly damp front tire slipping out in 
not-too-aggressive cornering sounds to me entirely typical of these tires. 
In Argentina I was buying 700 x 35 actual width Camel brand tires for $8 or 
$9 a piece that had far better grip and handling than the Hypers. Those sub 
$10 Camels stayed upright through corners, no matter how wet, or worn for 
that matter.

IanA

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 3:02:07 AM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> So ... 10 minutes into my commute this morning I took a turn too fast on 
> my Sam, lost traction and went down.
>
> Circumstances / excuses and other pertinant infomation:
>
>- I started running a fixed gear for the 1st time last week. I've got 
>about 100 miles on it so far, so still getting comfortable with it. Maybe 
>too comfortable!
>- 2 seconds before a cop car passed me closer than I thought 
>reasonable. So I was annoyed and distracted. 
>- I seem to remember that cornering isn't the strongest point of 
>the Victoria Hypers I have on for the summer. Hasn't been an issue before 
>so I may be wrong about that. 
>- Front tire was wet from riding through an oil or water stain on the 
>road going into the turn
>- As mentioned, too fast
>
>
> Results / consequences:
>
>- Bad road rash on right forearm, bruised right hip
>- Took a few minutes to get myself together and focused enough to 
>continue on
>- Handlebar and headlight required straightning. I had the tools and 
>was doing it when ...
>- A friend I hadn't seen in a long time walked past with her 5th 
>grade(?) daughter. She was showing her daughter how to take the bus to the 
>local pool and surprise!
>- Made it the rest of the way to work slowly, showered and treated the 
>wound. All is well so far.
>
> Careful out there!
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Sag Wagon Camping Test Run

[Deacon Patrick]

In which we discover families love the flexibility of riding some, all, or none 
of a given days ride, maps and signs don’t always agree and who’s to say who’s 
right, roads on the map may or may not exist in reality, and aspen shade on a 
hot day of climbing is delightful.
http://thegrid.ai/withabandon/test-run-for-sag-wagon-camping

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] My new Della Santa

[Joe Bernard]

It's s pretty! We're about the same size and I'm tempted to call Roland up 
and say, "Just make it like Addison's!" Does it still count as a custom if it 
copies someone else's custom? ;-)

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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Patrick Moore]

Digital gauge for bike tires -- forget make, but said to be accurate to a
fraction of a lb per sq inch. I weigh 175.

I'm not disagreeing, just wondering why RTPs need such high pressure when
at least one considerably lighter tire needs considerably less,

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Philip Kim  wrote:

> ahh i was just noting why you may be seeing some higher psi run with RTPs
> from other, as 30-40 psi is a bit high for a ~50mm tire.
>
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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Philip Kim]

ahh i was just noting why you may be seeing some higher psi run with RTPs 
from other, as 30-40 psi is a bit high for a ~50mm tire.

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 2:52:18 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I doubt that the RTP casings are thinner than those of the F Freds. If 
> anyone can correct me, I'll stand corrected!
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Philip Kim  > wrote:
>
>> 35 rear 30 front on atlas rims converted tubeless with load for EL 
>> casing. Ran a little less on standard - 30 rear 26-28 front.
>>
>>
>> patrick, compass tires require a bit more psi IME than schwalbe tires due 
>> to the thin sidewall casings. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 9:01:20 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> 30 to 40 seems high for a 50+ mm tire. I run my 50 mm labeled/51 actual 
>>> Furious Freds (tubeless) at about 23-24/26-27 for a mix of pavement, sand 
>>> (up to 3"), and roots and small rocks, and that seems firm.
>>>
>>> Note that the F Freds are considerably lighter (360 grams consistently, 
>>> at least the 3 or 4 I've weighed) than the RTPs, too (and the FFs are 700C 
>>> tires).
>>>
>>> And even 23 seems high compared to the 15/18 and as low as 12 in front 
>>> that I used in 60 mm Big Apple Liteskins, though these had tubes. Same 
>>> conditions, though man! 15/18 psi was wonderful in sand! The FFs require 
>>> more pressure to prevent sidewall flop.
>>>
>>> How do you (plural( decide what pressure to choose? 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Patrick Moore]

I doubt that the RTP casings are thinner than those of the F Freds. If
anyone can correct me, I'll stand corrected!

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:25 AM, Philip Kim  wrote:

> 35 rear 30 front on atlas rims converted tubeless with load for EL casing.
> Ran a little less on standard - 30 rear 26-28 front.
>
>
> patrick, compass tires require a bit more psi IME than schwalbe tires due
> to the thin sidewall casings.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 9:01:20 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> 30 to 40 seems high for a 50+ mm tire. I run my 50 mm labeled/51 actual
>> Furious Freds (tubeless) at about 23-24/26-27 for a mix of pavement, sand
>> (up to 3"), and roots and small rocks, and that seems firm.
>>
>> Note that the F Freds are considerably lighter (360 grams consistently,
>> at least the 3 or 4 I've weighed) than the RTPs, too (and the FFs are 700C
>> tires).
>>
>> And even 23 seems high compared to the 15/18 and as low as 12 in front
>> that I used in 60 mm Big Apple Liteskins, though these had tubes. Same
>> conditions, though man! 15/18 psi was wonderful in sand! The FFs require
>> more pressure to prevent sidewall flop.
>>
>> How do you (plural( decide what pressure to choose?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Road Rash (no pictures)

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

Thanks guys.

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[RBW] Re: My new Della Santa

[Ryan Fleming]

That is a beauty!

Is the AR on the chopping block?

All you need are some red-anodized Nitto barend plugs...to match the red 
cable caps (or whatever you call those things you cap cable with) 
...seriously, that is certainly one of the prettiest road bikes I've seen 
in a long time.

Enjoy!

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-5, Addison wrote:
>
> I already shared this with the iBob list so apologies for those on both 
> lists getting hit twice.  It's a beauty (if I do say so myself) with room 
> for 35mm tires.  Figured the list would appreciate it and the beautiful 
> lugs at the very least.
>
> Lots of pics here:
>
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/07/one-bike-to-rule-them-all-my-new-della.html
>
> Best,
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
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>
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>
> Blogger: Reno Rambler  
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>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My new Della Santa

[Hugh Smitham]

You know Addison I think I need to add a couple of thoughts here regarding
one bike to rule them all theme. I'm with you on the notion of pairing down
for sure, the more n+1 the more maintenance and clutter. But more important
is the clutter and whether the bikes in the stable are ideal for the
terrain you ride, essentially do you ride the bikes you have?  This topic
has popped up time and time again on the list so I'm adding nothing really
new here other than my perspective after years of riding. I'm in the
process of shedding bikes and consolidating too, basically I think there is
no bike that does all things well. I'm moving into the realm of n+1 with
specific use intended rigs. Your Della Santa hits one of those specific
uses I'm after a spirited road bike capable of hitting some dirt.
Personally I want something with fatter tires. For just getting out and
doing a fitness ride before work I always grab my 1984 Trek 660 with campy
Veloce build running 28mm (here I wish I could run 35mm) and I love it. The
next bike will be built around  a 650b x 48mm.

On the pictures, I loved all the pictures that's what we bike nerds want to
see right! Lot's of pictures to Oogle at. Thanks for the post.

~hugh

~Hugh

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moving.” ― Albert Einstein

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On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

> Addison,
>
> Wow that's a real beauty. The lugs and various details are fantastic!
> Truly rolling art for sure. Thanks for sharing that beauty.
>
> ~hugh
>
> On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 7:35:48 AM UTC-7, Addison wrote:
>>
>> I already shared this with the iBob list so apologies for those on both
>> lists getting hit twice.  It's a beauty (if I do say so myself) with room
>> for 35mm tires.  Figured the list would appreciate it and the beautiful
>> lugs at the very least.
>>
>> Lots of pics here:
>> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/07/one-bike-to-rule-th
>> em-all-my-new-della.html
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Addison Wilhite, M.A.
>>
>> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology
>> 
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Sam Hillborne - Green, Double TT

[Jon A]

Thanks, it is a really pretty green, but I can take no credit for it. :) 
 It was the standard Sam Hillborne color for bit.  Rivendell always chooses 
great colors.

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 1:49:44 PM UTC-4, Carla Waugh wrote:
>
> I love the color!

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[RBW] Re: My new Della Santa

[Hugh Smitham]

Addison,

Wow that's a real beauty. The lugs and various details are fantastic! Truly 
rolling art for sure. Thanks for sharing that beauty.

~hugh

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 7:35:48 AM UTC-7, Addison wrote:
>
> I already shared this with the iBob list so apologies for those on both 
> lists getting hit twice.  It's a beauty (if I do say so myself) with room 
> for 35mm tires.  Figured the list would appreciate it and the beautiful 
> lugs at the very least.
>
> Lots of pics here:
>
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/07/one-bike-to-rule-them-all-my-new-della.html
>
> Best,
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
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>
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>
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[RBW] Re: $Free.99 - 2x Jack Brown Blue Tires (700x33.3)

[Irving]

Just like the Beastie Boys 
, there 
tires are out and they're gone.

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>
> Anyone want 2x Jack Brown Blues?
>
> They were on the cohabitant's bike, a couple years old probably not more 
> than 1,000 miles.
>
> Yours for the cost of shipping ($6-7 if I can cram it into a USPS flat 
> rate envelope)... first person to e-mail me off list gets dibs.
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[RBW] Re: (Pic Heavy) Quickbeam Campy Fixed Gear Flip Flop

[Matt B.]

Great report! Thanks for the write up and pics. Goes to show how versatile 
the QB can be for a "single-speed", let alone fixed-gear.


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>
> No no no, its not what you think! Or maybe it is... Its a camping ride 
> report that I did on a fixed gear Quickbeam while wearing flip flops. 
> Hopefully the photos work. I set out not to make this long winded but 
> alas... I recently built the wheelset (SON Delux, Phil Wood FX/FW, DT R460, 
> Sapim Race, 32/32) and sort of completed the build up of the bike and could 
> not get my freewheel off the other wheelset so I did the whole thing fixed. 
> Bike is setup with a Surly Dingle 17/21 and 36/40 chain rings. 
>
>
> Additional photos here: https://goo.gl/photos/QDize276hRjdi23Y7
>
>
>
> 
>
> all dressed up and somewhere to go
>
>
> Started on July 2nd around 4:00 in the afternoon. Took the BART over to 
> Embarcadero station and went to the ferry building where I got an empanada 
> and a coffee ice cream in a sugar cone. snacked on those and took a few 
> photos.
>
>
>
> 
>
> Ferry Building with Quickbeam foreground
>
> Made a quick stop at the marina Safeway to pick up some bananas, protein 
> bar, avocado, 4 pack of Hawaiian rolls, and a vegan chocolate chip cookie. 
> After that I did a quick visit down to fort point where I encountered a pod 
> of humpback whales breaching and lobtailing under the Golden Gate Bridge! I 
> spoke to a woman named Elizabeth who was snapping some photos and she sent 
> some to me! 
>
>
>
> 
>
> Humpback lobtailing in the SF Bay, photo credit: Elizabeth
>
>
>
> 
>
> under the Golden Gate Bridge
>
> I stood under the bride for a while until it got too chilly. it was after 
> I got over the bridge that I realized that it would be dark by the time I 
> got to the campsite. I was planning on riding through the Marin headlands 
> and going to Samuel P. Taylor the back way but did not feel like riding 
> later into the night. I pressed on to Corte Madera. 
>
>
>
> 
>
> Mt. Tamalpais in the distance, Quickbeam again, foreground
>
>
> I took the highway route which I had not done before, feels scary facing 
> traffic on 101 separated by a chain link fence, low guard rail, and an 
> emergency lane. I think ill take my chances with traffic on Corte Madera 
> road next time. The ride on the trail through Ross and San Anselmo is 
> always nice. I especially like Shady Ln, even more when there is no 
> traffic. I stopped shortly in Fairfax to do a little snacking on a banana, 
> bar, and some bread. I was thinking that whites hill was a little closer so 
> I switched to my lower gear (36,21). Only when I started riding did I 
> realize it was much farther, especially when you're spinning 45 gear 
> inches! I didn't mind it though as it was a nice change of pace, even 
> slowed down a little bit. Finally I hit the hill, its not terribly long or 
> steep but it is a climb, especially with a load and riding a fixed gear in 
> flip flops. I reached the top and spun downhill to a little turnout next to 
> a raving where I switched into the high gear. From here, I rode through the 
> San Geronimo valley. By this time is was dusk and the hills were turning 
> into images that should be painted, photographed, and cherished. I thought 
> about taking a photo but decided to take it all in and keep pedaling with 
> the slight downhill to Lagunitis. 
>
> I arrived in Lagunitas, home of the brewing company of the same name, and 
> jumped onto the Marin cross trail. I tilted the light back just a little to 
> capture any stray branches that were at face level. The ride was pleasant 
> and I didn’t see anyone on the trail. Come to think of it, I hadn't ridden 
> next to anyone since Sausalito! 
>
>
>
> 
>
> cycling the Marin Cross Trail, B Eyc provides good light
>
>
> I pulled into the hiker biker site at Samuel P. Taylor state park around 
> 8:30, had dinner and a chat with two groups there. Two dads had brought 
> their 4/5 year old daughters form Corte Madera on the back of two Yubas 
> (think xtracycle/big dummy). The other group parked at 

Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Philip Kim]

35 rear 30 front on atlas rims converted tubeless with load for EL casing. 
Ran a little less on standard - 30 rear 26-28 front.


patrick, compass tires require a bit more psi IME than schwalbe tires due 
to the thin sidewall casings. 



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>
> 30 to 40 seems high for a 50+ mm tire. I run my 50 mm labeled/51 actual 
> Furious Freds (tubeless) at about 23-24/26-27 for a mix of pavement, sand 
> (up to 3"), and roots and small rocks, and that seems firm.
>
> Note that the F Freds are considerably lighter (360 grams consistently, at 
> least the 3 or 4 I've weighed) than the RTPs, too (and the FFs are 700C 
> tires).
>
> And even 23 seems high compared to the 15/18 and as low as 12 in front 
> that I used in 60 mm Big Apple Liteskins, though these had tubes. Same 
> conditions, though man! 15/18 psi was wonderful in sand! The FFs require 
> more pressure to prevent sidewall flop.
>
> How do you (plural( decide what pressure to choose? 
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Jon BALER]

The schwalbe big ones are a similar tire, but 700c.  I run them around 25 
psi on the road (slightly less in front, and slightly more in the rear), 
and I weigh 220 lbs.

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 11:27:04 AM UTC-4, Clayton wrote:
>
> 25 psi.
>
> Clay
>
> On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 5:05:53 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>>
>> What psi are people running with this tire on street/hardpacked dirt, 
>> tubeless? Thanks.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Frame build up ideas

[Max S]

Those B356 M bars look great! I'm VERY interested in those to use on my 
Trek 400 commuter / dirt / toodle-arounder. 

Here's another idea:  get a longer DirtDrop stem and mount some "North 
Road" style bars upside down... kinda like 
this: http://bikejerksmpls.blogspot.com/2009/11/ibis-scorcher_7440.html 

I found that the upside-down "North Road" style bar even lets me fit road 
brake levers. 

Or, Jitensha Bar: https://www.jitensha.com/eng/flatbar05.html 
(these also work with road levers in a pinch, but may be more comfortable 
with MTB levers – just have to make sure it's a 23.8 mm clamp diameter)... 

- Max 

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 12:56:46 AM UTC-4, Dave wrote:
>
> It’s totally possible I should try the bosco’s again, though I think I’m 
> more inclined to find a less upright approach. Anything somewhere between 
> an albastache and an albatross?

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Re: [RBW] Re: 54 CM Rivendell Saluki Complete for Sale

[Max S]

I've a friend in Ann Arbor who may be interested in this... Forwarded the 
ad. 

- Max 

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 8:46:16 AM UTC-4, Ted Shwartz wrote:
>
> It presently has 650bx42mm tires
> You probably could go a size or two larger.
>
> Ted Shwartz
> 508-951-0349
>
> Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul
>
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Hugh Smitham  > wrote:
>
> I've heard that before. What the max wheel size?
>
> ~hugh
>
> On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 11:14:27 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>>
>> Beauty! Worth noting that this is basically a Homer Hilsen for anyone who 
>> wonders how this fits into Rivs line up. 
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Chris 
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[RBW] Re: My new Della Santa

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Super nice bike!  And no, there are not too many photos!

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> I already shared this with the iBob list so apologies for those on both 
> lists getting hit twice.  It's a beauty (if I do say so myself) with room 
> for 35mm tires.  Figured the list would appreciate it and the beautiful 
> lugs at the very least.
>
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>
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/07/one-bike-to-rule-them-all-my-new-della.html
>
> Best,
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
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[RBW] Re: QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

25 psi.

Clay

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 5:05:53 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> What psi are people running with this tire on street/hardpacked dirt, 
> tubeless? Thanks.
>

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[RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[Ruben Flores]

I am going to throw in one more factor into this discussion (or at least I 
did not notice it in previous posts). On occasion I ride with a very 
experienced (past national champion) nearing 80 years old. He said as he 
has aged his hand strength has weakened and he must brake sooner into 
downhill corners. With discs he can return to his "normal" braking points 
and over all is not as fatigued in his hands and wrists. I am not saying 
yay or nay, just describing a specific situation.

On Wednesday, June 21, 2017 at 8:09:11 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I'm putting this in a new thread, because I have some questions. Note: I'm 
> not disagreeing, I'm asking because I want to know more. 
>
> Clayton said, in the Rivs On Block thread:
>
> *- More margin betw. rim and brake to adjust for rub. Disc brakes usually 
> have much tighter clearances and make it a much more fiddly affair to get 
> rid of rub (applies mostly to hydros)*
> *- Typically lighter weight*
> *[...]*
> *- Pads tend to last longer*
>
> #1: I agree that this is very true for mechanical discs, but for 
> hydraulics? I thought that pads for hydraulics allowed more gap than those 
> for mechanicals, at least once-sided-pull mechanicals. For me, this isn't 
> merely academic; it may influence my choice of mechanicals over hydraulics 
> one day.
>
> #2: Yes, calipers are lighter, but then disc-specific rims can be much 
> lighter than rim brake rims, at least in the wider sizes.
>
> #3: I've read that this is true; I've also read the opposite (recently, in 
> a review of some disc setup -- Bike Radar? Which one is true?
>
> I do know that my Kool Stop salmons seem to last years if not decades.
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Re: [RBW] My new Della Santa

[James Warren]

Awesome! Paint on the inside of the fork crown windows. That's another level.Beautiful bike. Enjoy.-Original Message-
From: Addison Wilhite 
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Subject: [RBW] My new Della Santa

I already shared this with the iBob list so apologies for those on both lists getting hit twice.  It's a beauty (if I do say so myself) with room for 35mm tires.  Figured the list would appreciate it and the beautiful lugs at the very least.Lots of pics here:http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/07/one-bike-to-rule-them-all-my-new-della.htmlBest,Addison Wilhite, M.A. Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology “Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”Educator: Professional PortfolioBlogger: Reno Rambler 




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[RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Braxton Colagross]

I run about 19 or 20 psi in the front and 22 or so in the back. 

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[RBW] My new Della Santa

[Addison Wilhite]

I already shared this with the iBob list so apologies for those on both
lists getting hit twice.  It's a beauty (if I do say so myself) with room
for 35mm tires.  Figured the list would appreciate it and the beautiful
lugs at the very least.

Lots of pics here:
http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2017/07/one-bike-to-rule-them-all-my-new-della.html

Best,

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Re: [RBW] (Pic Heavy) Quickbeam Campy Fixed Gear Flip Flop

[Patrick Moore]

Kudos on the intrepid ride and the very readable ride report.

Patrick "Freewheels? Bah!" Moore

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:31 PM, christian poppell  wrote:

> No no no, its not what you think! Or maybe it is... Its a camping ride
> report that I did on a fixed gear Quickbeam while wearing flip flops.
> Hopefully the photos work. I set out not to make this long winded but
> alas... I recently built the wheelset (SON Delux, Phil Wood FX/FW, DT R460,
> Sapim Race, 32/32) and sort of completed the build up of the bike and could
> not get my freewheel off the other wheelset so I did the whole thing fixed.
> Bike is setup with a Surly Dingle 17/21 and 36/40 chain rings.
>
>
> Additional photos here: https://goo.gl/photos/QDize276hRjdi23Y7
>
>
>
> 
>
> all dressed up and somewhere to go
>
>
> Started on July 2nd around 4:00 in the afternoon. Took the BART over to
> Embarcadero station and went to the ferry building where I got an empanada
> and a coffee ice cream in a sugar cone. snacked on those and took a few
> photos.
>
>
>
> 
>
> Ferry Building with Quickbeam foreground
>
> Made a quick stop at the marina Safeway to pick up some bananas, protein
> bar, avocado, 4 pack of Hawaiian rolls, and a vegan chocolate chip cookie.
> After that I did a quick visit down to fort point where I encountered a pod
> of humpback whales breaching and lobtailing under the Golden Gate Bridge! I
> spoke to a woman named Elizabeth who was snapping some photos and she sent
> some to me!
>
>
>
> 
>
> Humpback lobtailing in the SF Bay, photo credit: Elizabeth
>
>
>
> 
>
> under the Golden Gate Bridge
>
> I stood under the bride for a while until it got too chilly. it was after
> I got over the bridge that I realized that it would be dark by the time I
> got to the campsite. I was planning on riding through the Marin headlands
> and going to Samuel P. Taylor the back way but did not feel like riding
> later into the night. I pressed on to Corte Madera.
>
>
>
> 
>
> Mt. Tamalpais in the distance, Quickbeam again, foreground
>
>
> I took the highway route which I had not done before, feels scary facing
> traffic on 101 separated by a chain link fence, low guard rail, and an
> emergency lane. I think ill take my chances with traffic on Corte Madera
> road next time. The ride on the trail through Ross and San Anselmo is
> always nice. I especially like Shady Ln, even more when there is no
> traffic. I stopped shortly in Fairfax to do a little snacking on a banana,
> bar, and some bread. I was thinking that whites hill was a little closer so
> I switched to my lower gear (36,21). Only when I started riding did I
> realize it was much farther, especially when you're spinning 45 gear
> inches! I didn't mind it though as it was a nice change of pace, even
> slowed down a little bit. Finally I hit the hill, its not terribly long or
> steep but it is a climb, especially with a load and riding a fixed gear in
> flip flops. I reached the top and spun downhill to a little turnout next to
> a raving where I switched into the high gear. From here, I rode through the
> San Geronimo valley. By this time is was dusk and the hills were turning
> into images that should be painted, photographed, and cherished. I thought
> about taking a photo but decided to take it all in and keep pedaling with
> the slight downhill to Lagunitis.
>
> I arrived in Lagunitas, home of the brewing company of the same name, and
> jumped onto the Marin cross trail. I tilted the light back just a little to
> capture any stray branches that were at face level. The ride was pleasant
> and I didn’t see anyone on the trail. Come to think of it, I hadn't ridden
> next to anyone since Sausalito!
>
>
>
> 
>
> cycling the Marin Cross Trail, B Eyc provides good light
>
>
> I pulled into the hiker biker site at Samuel P. Taylor state park around
> 8:30, had dinner and a chat with two groups there. Two dads had brought
> their 4/5 year old daughters form Corte Madera on the back of two Yubas
> (think xtracycle/big dummy). The other group parked at Lagunitas and rode
> in by bike to score a site. I slept without a tent (don’t own 

Re: [RBW] QUESTION: Rat Trap Pass

[Patrick Moore]

30 to 40 seems high for a 50+ mm tire. I run my 50 mm labeled/51 actual
Furious Freds (tubeless) at about 23-24/26-27 for a mix of pavement, sand
(up to 3"), and roots and small rocks, and that seems firm.

Note that the F Freds are considerably lighter (360 grams consistently, at
least the 3 or 4 I've weighed) than the RTPs, too (and the FFs are 700C
tires).

And even 23 seems high compared to the 15/18 and as low as 12 in front that
I used in 60 mm Big Apple Liteskins, though these had tubes. Same
conditions, though man! 15/18 psi was wonderful in sand! The FFs require
more pressure to prevent sidewall flop.

How do you (plural( decide what pressure to choose?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Discs versus calipers

[Patrick Moore]

Very interesting. So, upshot, at least per Mitch's experience: if you have
sufficiently wide tires, the discs, at least hydraulics, can stop easier --
and "better" in this sense -- on road bikes with aluminum rims by requiring
less concentration and "technique" in hard slowdowns at high speed. I
wonder at which tire width this becomes significant? Probably at not much
under 40 mm?



On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Mitch Harris  wrote:

>
>
> Right, you hope they're not comparing discs to rim-braking on carbon brake
> tracks where rim-braking is not at it's best.
> I've noticed I do brake later into steep high speed road turns on my disc
> road bike, turns that require coming down from 50 mph to 20pmh on my canyon
> descents, but the biggest difference in late braking is with wider tires.
> When I compare are tires (41mm Baby Shoe Pass EL) with brazed-on Raids on
> A23 rims vs. TRP Hy/Rds 160 rotors with Modolo levers on Pacenti TL28 rims,
> I brake somewhat later with discs. But I noticed braking much later into
> these high speed turns on my most recent canyon descents on 47-48 Switch
> Back Hill EL tires. I'm guessing I'd also brake later on rim brakes with
> SBH tires too--they fit on my bike with Raids but not under the fenders so
> I may have to remove fenders to try it sometime.
>
> In general I don't see a lot of difference in braking quality or power in
> these two road set-ups, rim vs. disc, except that the same amount of
> braking requires somewhat less hand effort with discs. Both seem to do
> really well with high speed descending on pavement with heavy braking for
> tight switchbacks. Hand effort seems really good to me with the Raids too,
> much less hand effort than required with the regular old single pivot
> Record brakes I'm used to. But hand effort is still noticeably less with
> discs.
>
> But the big difference in late braking for me has been with increasing
> tire width. This surprises me because I was doing these same 50mph to 20mph
> turns on 25mm tires with no complaints before I started riding fatter tires
> on the road. I'd hear descending was faster on fat tires and I would think
> maybe that's just for riders who aren't fast descenders. But I think the
> difference is there because I brake noticeably laters on 42mm tires
> compared to 25mm and then on 48mm tires the late braking is really
> noticeable. I think the reason for the late braking is probably two things
> (?): there is more grip with the larger contact patch, but also wider tires
> soak up more road irregularity and surface roughness through the turn and
> on narrower tires I feel like I need to get speed down a little earlier in
> preparation so I can manage that roughness leaned over while with the wider
> tires I'm more ok leaning the bike over and trusting the tires to handle
> more of that roughness than narrow tires can on their own.
>
> The late braking difference in lower hand effort seems to come from the
> fact that I notice I use progressive stages of hand effort when I scrub a
> lot of speed (50 down to 20). BTW, all of this braking I do on descents is
> from the hoods.  On rim brake Raids, I squeeze and lose a lot of speed, but
> then there is a harder squeeze I have to ramp up to with more hand strength
> to get down to the safe 20mph to go through the sharp sweeper turn. Some
> people might do this all with one progressively firmer squeeze but for me
> it does feel like two separate squeeze--one big firm one then a really hard
> one.  On disc Hy/Rds I don't require that second stage of harder. One stage
> of firm hand pressure on Hy/Rds takes me all the way down to 20mph. This
> simpler process lets me brake later I think, or at least that seems one
> likely explanation, all else being equal. (The old school Record single
> pivots handle the same 50mph down to 20mph turns just fine but it takes
> noticeably more hand pressure than the Raids.)
>
> --Mitch
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Re: [RBW] Re: 54 CM Rivendell Saluki Complete for Sale

[Ted Shwartz]

It presently has 650bx42mm tires
You probably could go a size or two larger.

Ted Shwartz
508-951-0349

Four wheels move the body, two wheels move the soul



> On Jul 4, 2017, at 11:01 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
> 
> I've heard that before. What the max wheel size?
> 
> ~hugh
> 
>> On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 11:14:27 AM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>> Beauty! Worth noting that this is basically a Homer Hilsen for anyone who 
>> wonders how this fits into Rivs line up.
>> Cheers!
>> Chris
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[RBW] Re: Road Rash (no pictures)

[ascpgh]

Hope you heal quickly, glad you (or the gear) didn't suffer any more. 

It's an OK event when the ego injury is the worst outcome.  Takes strength 
to fully define apparent cause and accept your role. We cyclists are 
prideful and sometimes it takes as long for that to resurface as your road 
rash. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 5:02:07 AM UTC-4, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:
>
> So ... 10 minutes into my commute this morning I took a turn too fast on 
> my Sam, lost traction and went down.
>
> Circumstances / excuses and other pertinant infomation:
>
>- I started running a fixed gear for the 1st time last week. I've got 
>about 100 miles on it so far, so still getting comfortable with it. Maybe 
>too comfortable!
>- 2 seconds before a cop car passed me closer than I thought 
>reasonable. So I was annoyed and distracted. 
>- I seem to remember that cornering isn't the strongest point of 
>the Victoria Hypers I have on for the summer. Hasn't been an issue before 
>so I may be wrong about that. 
>- Front tire was wet from riding through an oil or water stain on the 
>road going into the turn
>- As mentioned, too fast
>
>
> Results / consequences:
>
>- Bad road rash on right forearm, bruised right hip
>- Took a few minutes to get myself together and focused enough to 
>continue on
>- Handlebar and headlight required straightning. I had the tools and 
>was doing it when ...
>- A friend I hadn't seen in a long time walked past with her 5th 
>grade(?) daughter. She was showing her daughter how to take the bus to the 
>local pool and surprise!
>- Made it the rest of the way to work slowly, showered and treated the 
>wound. All is well so far.
>
> Careful out there!
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Beautiful 58cm Green Rivendell Rambouillet

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, Brian:

I'm INTERESTED in your green RAM if still available, rsvp as soon as you 
can. I'm in LA!!

Jock Dewey

On Monday, July 3, 2017 at 5:29:43 PM UTC-4, B Young wrote:
>
> Ha, no sooner than I posted this, I found a tiny nick and two tiny 
> scratches on the left rear stay. You can see the two tiny scratches in the 
> photo set; left rear stay. Now there's nothing to worry about. The bike is 
> officially broken in. :)
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[RBW] Road Rash (no pictures)

[Broccoli Cog]

Sorry to hear Jay. I hope you recover and heal quickly!

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[RBW] Road Rash (no pictures)

[Jay in Tel Aviv]

So ... 10 minutes into my commute this morning I took a turn too fast on my 
Sam, lost traction and went down.

Circumstances / excuses and other pertinant infomation:

   - I started running a fixed gear for the 1st time last week. I've got 
   about 100 miles on it so far, so still getting comfortable with it. Maybe 
   too comfortable!
   - 2 seconds before a cop car passed me closer than I thought reasonable. 
   So I was annoyed and distracted. 
   - I seem to remember that cornering isn't the strongest point of 
   the Victoria Hypers I have on for the summer. Hasn't been an issue before 
   so I may be wrong about that. 
   - Front tire was wet from riding through an oil or water stain on the 
   road going into the turn
   - As mentioned, too fast


Results / consequences:

   - Bad road rash on right forearm, bruised right hip
   - Took a few minutes to get myself together and focused enough to 
   continue on
   - Handlebar and headlight required straightning. I had the tools and was 
   doing it when ...
   - A friend I hadn't seen in a long time walked past with her 5th 
   grade(?) daughter. She was showing her daughter how to take the bus to the 
   local pool and surprise!
   - Made it the rest of the way to work slowly, showered and treated the 
   wound. All is well so far.

Careful out there!

Jay



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[RBW] Re: FS Garage Sale: 650b SON/White Ind wheelset, Nitto racks, seat posts, stems, more...

[Rob]

Updated to reflect stuff that has sold. 

On Sunday, July 2, 2017 at 3:39:50 PM UTC-7, Rob wrote:
>
> Time to divest!
>
> All items OBO, and plus the actual cost of the shipping method of your 
> choice, with local pickup in Seattle preferred. As always, if the price 
> seems out of line for the item, make me a reasonable offer. 
>
> Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/robharrison/HaHy51
>
> *Nitto Jaguar SP-72 Track 2-Bolt Seatpost*. Brand new, never been 
> mounted. 27.2mm. Please note: Rail mounting slots are narrower than 
> standard and ONLY fit track-style saddles. (I missed this!) $50.
>
> *Velo-Orange Cigne Stem* Brand new. Mounted once, never ridden. Highly 
> polished version. 31.8mm clamp (use shims if you need 'em). 145mm from 
> bottom of stem to centerline of clamp. Similar to the Cunningham Limp Dick 
> stem Crust makes, but with a little less extension and the handy removable 
> face plate. And half the price, for this one. :) $75.
>
> *Nitto Big Rear Rack*. The older version without the diagonal 
> cross-bracing. Nicer, IMO $175.
>
> *Gran Bois Randonneur bars*. About 37mm at the hoods. Just like the 
> current Compass bars, with the slight upsweep as the bar moves away from 
> the stem n’ all. SUPER comfortable, just like Jan says. A bit of goo from 
> bar tape, but I got most of it off. $75.
>
> Rare *Nigel Smythe Tweed Trunk Sack*, excellent condition, with rain 
> cover. (Mark's Rack shown for scale, not included, but available 
> separately--also listed for sale here.) $100.
>

 

*[Sale Pending] **Nitto Dirt Drop Stem*. 26mm clamp, 80mm extension. Get 
> that bar up to where you want it! Discolored, but may be polishable. Think 
> of it as pre-beausaged! I'll include one Nitto shim, which seems to be what 
> it takes to fit a 25.4mm bar. $20.  


> *[Sale Pending] **Nitto Mark’s Rack*. Designed by Mark at Rivendell, made 
> by Nitto. Super versatile. Can be mounted on the front to support a 
> randonneur bag, or on the rear to support a big rear saddlebag. $100.
>
> *[Sale Pending] Nitto S83 2-bolt Seatpost*. 27.2mm diameter, 200mm long. 
> (50mm shorter than the standard one you can get from Rivendell for $97.) 
> Shows definite evidence of use, but still beautiful and functions 
> perfectly. $60. 
>

>
> More as I take pictures
>
> Rob in Seattle
>
>
>

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