[RBW] Re: 10x200 update. An eleventh bike, and blast(s) from the past

[Bill Lindsay]

Ann L declared a need for a handlebar bag like mine.  

The brand is Team Dream.  There's a cute sewn on label on the front that 
also says "MOKUYOBI" which may be the model (?).  The selection of stuff on 
the teamdreambicyclingteam website is nowhere near as great as the 
selection at the Cub House storefront.  When I chatted with one of the very 
nice, bearded, twenty-somethings at the Cub House, he indicated that they 
come up with ideas and the sewers make them.  It sounds like a pretty rapid 
fire operation where everything is kind of small run, make it sell it go 
for a ride, have some cold brew coffee and come up with the next idea.  It 
made me want to live in South Pasadena and go visit every couple weeks to 
see whats new.  I get the vibe that for a lot of things there will not be 
enough inventory to warrant even bothering to put it on the website.  There 
were only two bags that were brown with rainbow, and I bought one.  There 
were five or six that were more like teal with rainbow, exactly like mine 
except the dark brown bottom of the bag in my photo is a teal color.  

The handlebar bag that you can easily buy online, that is ALSO handmade in 
Los Angeles, and is also stocked at the Cub House is the Bar Bag by ORNOT.  

https://www.ornotbike.com/collections/accessories

The MOKUYOBI bag was a lot less expensive ($50 vs $78), and is a bit larger 
in the main compartment, and has no side pockets. If you want to buy a bag 
just like mine, I recommend you call them at (626)755-3003 and ask them if 
they can sell you one.  Have them text you a phone pic.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 4:10:29 PM UTC-7, Ann L wrote:
>
> Ohhh.  I am so needing that handlebar bag.  What is the brand?  I looked 
> on the website and it wasn't listed.
>
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: 10x200 update. An eleventh bike, and blast(s) from the past

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Ohhh.  I am so needing that handlebar bag.  What is the brand?  I looked on 
the website and it wasn't listed.

On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 2:49:47 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>
>
> "Whether that means I end up logging 200x11 or 200x10 remains to be seen."
>
> I rounded out my 200 miles on my sixth different bike on Saturday morning, 
> on a meandering mixed terrain ride through the Chino Hills.  It turned into 
> a sort-of-lost-but-not-really underbiking adventure at times, but it was 
> very fun riding (with some walking).  It was in the mid 70s, which helped.  
> If the weather was like that all the time, I might never have left southern 
> California.  Here's my gratitude shot of Black Mountain #2, which did his 
> whirlwind tour of duty like a trooper:
>
>
> 
>
> Sunday was a rest-day and travel day back to the Bay Area.  On the way 
> home I stopped by a new bike boutique in San Marino, CA called the Cub 
> House.  I had seen it on Instagram, and it looked really appealing.  It's a 
> very road-oriented, fairly irreverent fashion boutique.  It's not for 
> everyone but I loved it.  I'm passionate about spending money at small 
> businesses that passionately pursue their niche of the MUSA/Bike 
> marketplace.  The main clothing line they display is Team Dream.  If you 
> want to check out their vibe, check https://teamdreambicyclingteam.com/  
> 
>
> If you hate MAMILs you'll hate it.  If you hate bearded 20-somethings 
> selling you expensive cycling fashion, you'll hate it.  If you hate tight 
> cycling clothing made for slender road cyclists who take their own sense of 
> humor too seriously, you'll hate it.  I loved it.  They struck me as a good 
> hard-working positive bunch of cyclists, putting a ton of effort and energy 
> into building a genuine community around themselves in that South Pasadena 
> area.  I'm into it, and I wish them luck.  When I'm due for more bib-shorts 
> and racey jerseys, knowing that I can buy products handmade in Los Angeles 
> makes me very happy.  I bought several small items and a sweet handlebar 
> bag, which I proudly toted on my Rosco Bubbe step-through today
>
>
> 
>
> I removed the front rack and basket setup for this new stripped down 
> configuration.  The Bubbe continues to impress on-dirt and off-dirt.  It's 
> a wicked fun mountain bike that does great on the road as well.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Tubing Info

[Lee Legrand]

Hi John,

I assume the UTS is ultimate tension strength or stress. I would think the
bicycle builder or framer would want it to be less than 70ksi (yield
strength limit).  Once stress exceed the yield strength, it will basically
begin to fail due to buckling or plastic hinge effects happen on the
frame.  Deformation in the steel is plastic instead of elastic once it
exceeds yield.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 6:23 PM, John Hawrylak 
wrote:

> Yes, RBW claims it is heat treated, but the UTS is very close to True
> Temper Versus (110,000 psi) so the heat treatment is probably for stress
> relief instead of increasing the UTS
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 10:36:16 PM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 1:01:21 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have a link to the RBW Silver Tubing sticker which gives the
>>> mechanical properties of the tubing.  I seem to recall 110 ksi UTS.  I
>>> looked on the RBW site and searched but came up empty.
>>>
>>
>> It's here
>> ,
>> in the announcement
>> 
>> for Le S!lver crank.
>>
>> Basically, it says:
>>
>>- S!lver butted Cr-Mo steel tubes, forks, stays
>>- Fe 97.3%
>>- Cr 1%
>>- Mo 0.2%
>>- C+Mn+Si+S 1.5%
>>- UTS ~103,000 psi
>>- Elongation ~10%
>>- Yield ~70,000 psi
>>
>> Kind of in the same ballpark as the evergreen Reynolds 531.
>>
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[RBW] Re: Silver Tubing Info

[John Hawrylak]

Yes, RBW claims it is heat treated, but the UTS is very close to True 
Temper Versus (110,000 psi) so the heat treatment is probably for stress 
relief instead of increasing the UTS

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 10:36:16 PM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 1:01:21 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have a link to the RBW Silver Tubing sticker which gives the 
>> mechanical properties of the tubing.  I seem to recall 110 ksi UTS.  I 
>> looked on the RBW site and searched but came up empty.
>>
>
> It's here 
> ,
>  
> in the announcement 
>  
> for Le S!lver crank.
>
> Basically, it says:
>
>- S!lver butted Cr-Mo steel tubes, forks, stays
>- Fe 97.3%
>- Cr 1%
>- Mo 0.2%
>- C+Mn+Si+S 1.5%
>- UTS ~103,000 psi
>- Elongation ~10%
>- Yield ~70,000 psi
>
> Kind of in the same ballpark as the evergreen Reynolds 531.
>

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[RBW] Re: My First Rivendell

[REC]

Paul,

Congratulations on your first Rivendell!  I bought my first riv--Joe 
Appaloosa-- 5 months ago and could not be happier. Now, riding is 100% 
pleasurable with 0% pain.  Love the upright-ness.  I was contemplating a 
Clem; it's a nice ride and you got a great color. 

Hope you have lots of good miles on it.

Roberta

On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 11:21:18 AM UTC-4, Paul Choi wrote:

>
> 
> Just picked up my first Rivendell in Walnut Creek. I took a one hour ride 
> on Saturday and it was just so comfortable. It was just so weird not having 
> any weight on my hands. Such a different but awesome experience. I'm hooked!
>

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[RBW] Re: 10x200 update. An eleventh bike, and blast(s) from the past

[Bill Lindsay]

"Whether that means I end up logging 200x11 or 200x10 remains to be seen."

I rounded out my 200 miles on my sixth different bike on Saturday morning, 
on a meandering mixed terrain ride through the Chino Hills.  It turned into 
a sort-of-lost-but-not-really underbiking adventure at times, but it was 
very fun riding (with some walking).  It was in the mid 70s, which helped.  
If the weather was like that all the time, I might never have left southern 
California.  Here's my gratitude shot of Black Mountain #2, which did his 
whirlwind tour of duty like a trooper:



Sunday was a rest-day and travel day back to the Bay Area.  On the way home 
I stopped by a new bike boutique in San Marino, CA called the Cub House.  I 
had seen it on Instagram, and it looked really appealing.  It's a very 
road-oriented, fairly irreverent fashion boutique.  It's not for everyone 
but I loved it.  I'm passionate about spending money at small businesses 
that passionately pursue their niche of the MUSA/Bike marketplace.  The 
main clothing line they display is Team Dream.  If you want to check out 
their vibe, check https://teamdreambicyclingteam.com/  


If you hate MAMILs you'll hate it.  If you hate bearded 20-somethings 
selling you expensive cycling fashion, you'll hate it.  If you hate tight 
cycling clothing made for slender road cyclists who take their own sense of 
humor too seriously, you'll hate it.  I loved it.  They struck me as a good 
hard-working positive bunch of cyclists, putting a ton of effort and energy 
into building a genuine community around themselves in that South Pasadena 
area.  I'm into it, and I wish them luck.  When I'm due for more bib-shorts 
and racey jerseys, knowing that I can buy products handmade in Los Angeles 
makes me very happy.  I bought several small items and a sweet handlebar 
bag, which I proudly toted on my Rosco Bubbe step-through today



I removed the front rack and basket setup for this new stripped down 
configuration.  The Bubbe continues to impress on-dirt and off-dirt.  It's 
a wicked fun mountain bike that does great on the road as well.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto, SOMA, XT, Deerhead, MKS Pedals, Gravenalle Shifters, Velo Orange, Etc.

[timclark8...@gmail.com]

Updated: still available. Thanks.


Nitto Noodle 42mm Excellent condition (some brake lever mounting marks) $45 
shipped 

XT M772 front derailleur. Excellent condition. $25 shipped 

Vintage Deerhead Shimano cantis. (Missing two stud bolts and cable hangers 
mis-matching, but a shimano hanger would be an easy find. $20 shipped 

Flat pedals: Vintage MKS GR-9 Touring platform pedals. Great for use with 
toe clips. $15 shipped 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fender Brands (Besides SKS) That Work On A Sam

[Tim Gavin]

This struggle (R559 vs front fender) is what drove me to try centerpull
brakes.  I was able to swap some stuff with a listmemember for a set of
Paul Racers, and they're a big improvement.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 9:34 AM, RonaTD  wrote:

> The rear brake bolt is tangential to the tire diameter, so the brake-tire
> distance increases as the brake gets farther away from the brake bridge.
> The front brake bolt, because of the fork offset, is not tangential, and
> the brake-tire distance gets smaller as the brake gets farther forward of
> the fork crown. Fork crowns are thicker than brake bridges, so there is
> less brake-tire clearance in front than in back. The difference is
> non-trivial. A constucteur tasked with building a fork for a bike that will
> have dual-pivot brakes would do well to angle the bottom of the steerer and
> fork crown and drill the brake bolt hole such that it is tangential to the
> tire circumference.
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[RBW] Re: Possible 51joe app fs feeler

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Crust seems to be gaining a lot of attention.  I wasn't familiar with the 
make until a Riv dealer actually suggested one to me.  (I don't own a Crust)

On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 9:00:02 PM UTC-4, Andrew Huston wrote:
>
> Probably a Crust evasion. I like the stuff they've come out with. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Abcyclehank]

Marty,
Excited to see your Silver steed.  If I ever end up a custom order or a 
repainted That is the way I am leaning.  All I have heard from who received my 
frame is that it is gorgeous.

Others:  where are these things at and how do they preform?

Sincerely,

Ryan

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[RBW] Re: Rochester, NY Bike and Bike Fishing Opportunities

[Call Me Jay]

Alex,  

Wow--your shop looks amazing.  My wife and I are planning on stopping by next 
Friday.  Thanks for the local knowledge.

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Riv selection question

[lconley]

I use my Bombadil as a road bike at times, I also have a  double TT 56 Sam 
that is my "racing bike". I will be riding the Bombadil for the Six Gap 
this weekend - actually only the Three Gap. I just don't have the gearing 
on the Sam for mountains. I am taking off the Big Ben 50s and putting on 
Compass 48s for the ride. I completed the Cross Florida ride a couple of 
years ago on the Bombadil. It makes a great long distance road bike.

Laing


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[RBW] Re: FS Brand New Lugged S84 Seatpost

[Ron Mc]

If you have an upright that feels wrong, S84 seatpost will probably make it 
right.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Tubing Info

[Lee Legrand]

Had no idea steel tubing had a yield strength of 70ksi. Stronger than
typical rebar used in concrete buildings.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Bob Ehrenbeck  wrote:

> Here's a photo of the actual tubing sticker that's on my Clem:
>
> https://flic.kr/p/AKBQJU
>
> Bob E
> Cranford, NJ
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 4:01:21 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> Does anyone have a link to the RBW Silver Tubing sticker which gives the
>> mechanical properties of the tubing.  I seem to recall 110 ksi UTS.  I
>> looked on the RBW site and searched but came up empty.
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Swift Industries x Ocean Air Docena Camo and Haulin Colin front porteur rack

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[RBW] Re: FS Brand New Lugged S84 Seatpost

[lconley]

Or one has a long torso and short legs. I am 6 feet tall and have a 83 PBH 
(legs from somebody who is 5'9", torso from somebody who is 6'3") and I am 
fat. On some bikes, even Rivendells with top tubes on the long side, 
sometimes I just need that little bit extra. Almost all of my saddles are 
Brooks, and they tend to have less adjustment range than most. Decades ago, 
I usually rode a frame that was "too large" for me with a really long stem 
- I have a 140 mm Cinelli stem on one of my bikes. I now have a couple of 
Nitto lugged seatposts - more comfortable than a long stem and less flex in 
the steering. Now that VO has ruined their two-bolt setback seatpost - 
Nitto is the only way to go.

Laing


On Saturday, September 16, 2017 at 5:49:05 AM UTC-7, Garth wrote:

> Well yes, moving the saddle back just to get more reach means either the 
> bike doesn't fit properly and/or the bars/stem needs changing in some way. 
> There is a "sweet spot" for every bike and every rider, and there is no set 
> formula to find it and it's never the same for anyone else. I cannot even 
> tell you exactly what "it" is, only that it is, you just know it when it's 
> felt and it's yours to behold and share with that irrestible grin of a 
> child on your face ☺ 
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Alabtross bars and MTB brake levers

[Joe Bernard]

Tim, I have these levers from Riv which will work with sidepulls or 
cantilevers. Bought new a couple months ago, then I decided on Albastache with 
aero levers on my Pashley. 
New, never mounted, $37 shipped. 
Text me at 415 seven eight six 46 two three. 

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/dia-compe-ss-6-mtb-silver-brake-levers

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[RBW] Re: Rochester, NY Bike and Bike Fishing Opportunities

[Call Me Jay]

Alex,

Many thanks.  I'll try to stop by the shop next week.  

Jay

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[RBW] Re: Rochester, NY Bike and Bike Fishing Opportunities

[Alex Wirth- Owner, Yellow Haus Bicycles]

Hi Jay!  Come visit us if you have the time, we are a Riv dealer located in 
the City of Rochester.

Check out the lehigh valley trail, genesee valley greenway, auburn trail 
and genesee riverway trail for ride ideas.  All of those trails can be 
accessed from the canal trail and we have some free local bike maps 
available if that's easiest.

For fly fishing, I would take a ride down to the local Orvis shop for the 
best/closest spots.  You can ride there via the canal path and a little 
offshoot called the "pittsford railroad loop"

http://www.orvis.com/s/rochester-new-york-orvis-retail-store/13105

Not sure how much of a purist you are, but there is plenty of panfish and 
bass fishing in the canalif you travel a little south there are some 
really nice cold water streams.  Oatka Creek and Spring Brook to name a 
couple.



On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 7:53:30 AM UTC-4, Call Me Jay wrote:
>
> I'm headed up to Rochester next weekend for a wedding.  My wife is in the 
> wedding party so I'll have some down time.  Any suggestions for a 2-3 hour 
> ride?  Any place to pull over and fly fish?  I think our hotel is near the 
> Erie Canal in Greece--how's that? Thanks in advance.

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[RBW] Re: Silver Tubing Info

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

Here's a photo of the actual tubing sticker that's on my Clem:

https://flic.kr/p/AKBQJU

Bob E
Cranford, NJ



On Sunday, September 17, 2017 at 4:01:21 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:

> Does anyone have a link to the RBW Silver Tubing sticker which gives the 
> mechanical properties of the tubing.  I seem to recall 110 ksi UTS.  I 
> looked on the RBW site and searched but came up empty.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>

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[RBW] Re: Fender Brands (Besides SKS) That Work On A Sam

[RonaTD]

The rear brake bolt is tangential to the tire diameter, so the brake-tire 
distance increases as the brake gets farther away from the brake bridge. The 
front brake bolt, because of the fork offset, is not tangential, and the 
brake-tire distance gets smaller as the brake gets farther forward of the fork 
crown. Fork crowns are thicker than brake bridges, so there is less brake-tire 
clearance in front than in back. The difference is non-trivial. A constucteur 
tasked with building a fork for a bike that will have dual-pivot brakes would 
do well to angle the bottom of the steerer and fork crown and drill the brake 
bolt hole such that it is tangential to the tire circumference. 

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[RBW] WTB: MultiSack in dark brown

[Max S]

Riv seems to be out of this color and has been for awhile. Hit me up if you got 
one. 

TIA!

- Max in A2

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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[MartyG]

Still waiting...

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[RBW] Rochester, NY Bike and Bike Fishing Opportunities

[Call Me Jay]

I'm headed up to Rochester next weekend for a wedding.  My wife is in the 
wedding party so I'll have some down time.  Any suggestions for a 2-3 hour 
ride?  Any place to pull over and fly fish?  I think our hotel is near the Erie 
Canal in Greece--how's that? Thanks in advance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Huge Rosco Mixte

[Tom Harrop]

Funny how this thread came up again. Just an FYI in case anyone missed it, 
the 64 cm Clem-L is on presale on rivbike now.

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[RBW] ISO: MKS "Esprit" pedals or similar

[Joe Bernard]

I don't know about attaching things to them, but I love RMX pedals. 

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