[RBW] 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Philip Williamson]

I know nothing about it. The AW ratios Patrick mention, 40”, 52”, 70” sound 
about perfect. Try it and tell us how it goes.

I’d use a new AW, not an old one, because the new ones supposedly don’t go in 
neutral when they are out of gear. That feature of the old ones is not 
excellent.

Philip
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Re: [RBW] 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Patrick Moore]

Now, why, again, a IGH for winter off road? And why 3 speed instead of 5,
7, 8, 9, 11, 14? I'm all for it, but I'm curious as to your motive.

Long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away, when I was briefly dating a
(Anglo) woman who lived on Bilaga'ana- (that's Navajo for white man, and
I'm half that) -accessible but Cochiti-owned land near the Cochiti (not
Navajo) reservation WSW of Santa Fe, near some wonderful rocky and hilly
jeep track -- this was 1989 or 1990, when mtbs were still newish; her new
DB had just 6 cogs -- I converted a thrift store Schwinn 3 speed into an
off roader by swapping out the 40-something ring for a 36, giving me, with
the stock 18 t ring, roughly 70", 53", and 40" gears. I recall a nice, long
Saturday afternoon ride along a mountain jeep track where for a young, fit
person, these ratios did quite well if you don't mind standing. But the
Shimano -- was it SA? -- hub hardly was designed for this sort of riding;
we crossed what I guess was the same stream half a dozen times, and I
recall seeing water flowing out of the hub once I got through to the far
side. The hub still worked, and I never bothered to strip it or even lube
it, but I daresay that it would not have lasted through many such rides.

Back to internal gears: Sure, a 3 speed will work, for a while at least;
but why not Rohloff? Or, whole hog, one of the new bb-area gear systems? Or
the, as I read, well judged Alfine 8 or 9 or 11 speed hubs? Or a Nuvinci?
Stevie used to sell fat bikes with the NuVinci.

I briefly tried fixed -- 60 gi -- off road, but while going up and even
flat was fine, downhills on 175 mm cranks was horrible, as was trying to
spin on smooth flats with a tailwind. I switched to a 63" freewheel gear.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 4:10 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Continuing to toy, and one alluring concept is going with a three speed
> hub. I’ve searched around a bit and not found much (I know of Shaw’s
> 3-Speed Society) specific to MTBing with 3-speed IGH. Anyone know of
> anything?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Anyone know about cycling Death Valley

[George Schick]

If you do a search on this blog using the keys "death valley" up will pop a 
number posts from the past, including well documented coverage of the Death 
Valley Double Century by riders like Eric Norris.  Some of these might be 
helpful.

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 7:52:00 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>
> Tim:
>
> People tend to underestimate the size of Death Valley.  Some of did a trip 
> where we camped at Texas Spring & did rides out of there for a few days.  
> Dante's view is one serious climb.  The view is almost worth the effort.  
> Further north in the valley are a few campgrounds but primitive.  I believe 
> there is one with water.  Even in winter you need lots of water as it's 
> very dry.  Check the elevations at various places you plan to ride.  There 
> is lots of elevation gain.  Plan for wind.  Hunq w/large tires is the 
> ticket.  Early AM photos can be awesome, and fantastic night skies.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 5:39:08 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>>
>> I'll be taking the Hunqapillar, Roadeo and either the Hilsen or MAP out 
>> there for some camping and cycling here in the next couple of weeks camping 
>> and doing a lot of riding. Any advice?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[drew]

Oh yeah. Somehow that slipped thru my logic.

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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[Deacon Patrick]

Drew, I’m not moving anything on the frame. Drum brakes on each hub.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[drew]

Late to this and not familiar with any snow riding. If you're willing to have 
the canti bosses moved from 700c to 650b, have you thought at all about adding 
disc brake mounts instead. That way you could, presumably use both wheel sizes 
and have year round good braking. Again, I've only heard that discs are better 
in winter, I have no experience with them.

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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Very curious to see how this all turns out & to hear Grant/Riv’s thoughts on 
drum brake-ifying the Hunq.  Good call keeping the 2nd small chainring plus 
spare chain just in case.  Do you usually use a chain with master quick connect 
links?  You may be able to use an extra master link and form a splice section 
that could be removed/added as needed rather than a full 2nd chain?  May not 
save all that much weight/space and master links are easy to lose so may not be 
worth it but just a thought if you plan to ride in the larger ring majority of 
time anyway where the splice would just be installed most of the time and only 
stowed when going into low-low gearing.  Hope it all works out for you as 
planned.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

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[RBW] Re: Anyone know about cycling Death Valley

[dougP]

Tim:

People tend to underestimate the size of Death Valley.  Some of did a trip 
where we camped at Texas Spring & did rides out of there for a few days.  
Dante's view is one serious climb.  The view is almost worth the effort.  
Further north in the valley are a few campgrounds but primitive.  I believe 
there is one with water.  Even in winter you need lots of water as it's 
very dry.  Check the elevations at various places you plan to ride.  There 
is lots of elevation gain.  Plan for wind.  Hunq w/large tires is the 
ticket.  Early AM photos can be awesome, and fantastic night skies.  

dougP

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>
> I'll be taking the Hunqapillar, Roadeo and either the Hilsen or MAP out 
> there for some camping and cycling here in the next couple of weeks camping 
> and doing a lot of riding. Any advice?

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[RBW] Anyone know about cycling Death Valley

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'll be taking the Hunqapillar, Roadeo and either the Hilsen or MAP out there 
for some camping and cycling here in the next couple of weeks camping and doing 
a lot of riding. Any advice?

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[RBW] FS: Clem L 52

[Joe Bernard]

Bumpity. 

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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[Deacon Patrick]

In case anyone is, inexplicably, following along at home, here is my plan after 
a weekend of web surfing research, following my general approach of when in 
doubt, simplify, that’ll teach you a LOT. So:

Shift the Hunqapillar to 650b Sturmey-Archer 3-speed Dyno and drum brake 
wheel-set, geared essentialy equal to my Quickbeam low and high. I’ll still 
have the Sigurno double cranks, with 24/38 chainrings, so a I could carry a 
second chain sized for the 24t inner ring for bikepacking or steeper trails. A 
Hunqapillar geared in the spirit of the Quickbeam. Grin.

It ticks all the boxes I’m looking for: weatherproofed drivetrain and braking, 
similar gearing to what I have now, 650b conversion to increase tire size and 
retain a ride feel closer to the 700x44. OF course my conversation with Grant 
and Co. this week may change any or all that. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Ann and John, I appreciate your gracious comments to me and please know that 
none of my remarks were directed to either one of you in any way.  This forum 
and its members sure are a gem!

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[RBW] Re: FS: All-Paul SS Set Up, and Misc

[MartyG]

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 6:45:15 PM UTC-5, MartyG wrote:
>
>
> Wheelset dropped to $300 shipped. 
>
>  
>
>> Crankset may still be available for $165 shipped. Sale is pending.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Chris:

I found the original thread humorous because it was over the top and not 
what I perceived RBW or GP.  If it isn't clear from my earlier post, Grant: 
I apologize for my earlier post of the 2015 thread.  I did not mean any 
disrespect.  I will not be involved with this again.

Ann

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 4:16:13 PM UTC-6, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
>
> I don’t find anything at all humorous about those posts. Plus that’s a 
> total cop out to try to pass it off as appealing by pretending some other 
> person is “narrating” the comments.  Is it really that hard to be nice to 
> others?

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[RBW] Re: FS: All-Paul SS Set Up, and Misc

[MartyG]

Wheelset dropped to $300 shipped. 

 

> Crankset may still be available for $165 shipped.
>
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[RBW] 3-Speed MTBing Resources?

[Deacon Patrick]

Continuing to toy, and one alluring concept is going with a three speed hub. 
I’ve searched around a bit and not found much (I know of Shaw’s 3-Speed 
Society) specific to MTBing with 3-speed IGH. Anyone know of anything?

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] FT: Nitto Bullmoose for Chocomoose

[Timothy Hurley]

I have a set of TIG welded Nitto Bullmoose bars (the ones Riv sells) that I'd 
like to trade for a set of Chocomoose bars. They're in great condition, I'm 
just looking for a more relaxed position. Thanks!

   -T.J.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

[John Phillips]

Chris, 

 I apologize for offending you. I don't actually read those other forum 
threads criticizing Grant or Rivendell, because I find them pointless, 
uninformed and idiotic. I do enjoy someone satirizing these critics.

But I do sincerely apologize for offending you, and I apologize to everyone 
else I offended with my remark.

John

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 2:16:13 PM UTC-8, Chris Birkenmaier wrote:
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> I don’t find anything at all humorous about those posts. Plus that’s a 
> total cop out to try to pass it off as appealing by pretending some other 
> person is “narrating” the comments.  Is it really that hard to be nice to 
> others?

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

[Chris Birkenmaier]

I don’t find anything at all humorous about those posts. Plus that’s a total 
cop out to try to pass it off as appealing by pretending some other person is 
“narrating” the comments.  Is it really that hard to be nice to others?

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

[John Phillips]

If the humorous stuff is best read in the "voice" of the "Most 
Interesting Man in the World" ads, perhaps the criticisms of Rivendell & 
Grant in these other forums would be best read in the voice of a clueless 
Roseanne Rosanadana.   :)

John

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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[Deacon Patrick]

I love the thought. Because of tire width and errand needs, it’s the 
Hunqapillar.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[lum gim fong]

I think fenders if anything would be dangerous for you Patrick. You ride 
off-road a lot and there's a big chance of stuffs  jamming your tires.

 So I think without the fenders your bikes are at the mercy of the elements and 
roadsalts in the winter.

So looks like your options are a good cleaning and lubing regimen or make the 
quickbeam  the winter bike. I have found in winter that the frame fairs fine. 
If anything starts to go first it's the chain and fastener heads. And since the 
QuickBeam has less that might be the best winter bike for you.

Of course your winters are on another level completely than the ones that I 
live through here in Maryland.

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I love my bikes but haven't drunk any cool aide yet ;)

The other frequent criticism is that RBW are overpriced.  I have found mine 
to be extremely good value for how often I use them.  I suspect the haters 
spend as much, if not more, on bikes and accessories than I do.  Also, a 
point that inevitably comes up during these forum wars is that RBW bikes 
tend to hold their value better than others.  Not that I will sell anytime 
soon, particularly since the San Marcos has been discontinued and they no 
longer make the Appaloosa in my size.

They are stable, beautiful bikes that are great fun to ride.  That is all I 
wanted.


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[RBW] FS: Sage Green 64cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frameset

[Keith Muller]

Hey All,

I hate to do this, but I am selling my Sage Green 64cm Rivendell 
Rambouillet Frameset.  Includes headset.  I purchased this frame with the 
intent to build it up, but I have some other projects to finish up first 
and I just ended up purchasing a Campagnolo Master Tool Kit.  I could use 
the cash to finish other projects before this one.  Frameset is in great 
shape.  Usual wear and tear for a frame of it's age.  Some paint chips on 
the non-driveside chainstay are the only issue.  No rust issues though.  
$800 plus shipping is what I would like to see for it.  Please DM me with 
any questions or offers.  

*Please see this link for pics 
==>  
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B-2NeF-6iHHVa2VnWWRSc0xGZE1mR0Nta21XTFpVYkpsY3Vn
 
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Thanks,

Keith

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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[Deacon Patrick]

Good question, Keith. Simple answer: Yes I’ve considered it, no it’s not right 
for me. Grin.

With abandon,
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

[Joe Bernard]

What drives me crazy about these kinds of threads on cycling forums is when 
people call Riv Riders a cult. If you like a certain type of bike, riding and 
riding gear, you're going to gravitate to a company and group of riders who 
like the same stuff. 

And consider this: The people calling it a cult are wearing identical spandex 
on identical carbon bikes ;-)

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2 700c wheelsets, one Rich Lesnick built Deore/Velocity, the other Phil/Mavic

[Julian Westerhout]

Phil Wood wheelset sold. 

On Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 5:13:20 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> FS: 700c wheelset built by Rich Lesnick - Hands On Wheels. 36 hole, Deore 
> LX hubs and skewers, Velocity Synergy rims, asymmetrical rear, DT Swiss 
> spokes.  Excellent condition, little wear. Photos at 
> https://flic.kr/s/aHskqWxQkb
>
>
> Also have a Phil Wood/Mavic wheelset — mismatched rims — bronze front, 
> silver rear. Very good shape, moderate wear. Photos on request. 
>
>
> Asking $250 plus shipping for each set. Will consider offers. 
>
>
> Julian Westerhout
>
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[RBW] Re: Winterizing Ideas?

[iamkeith]

Have you considered just buying an additional bike for winter use?  In the 
end, it might not cost much more, would probably be less hassle, and would 
help preserve your precious Hunquapillar by sparing it from harsh winter 
riding conditions.   Used fat bikes are unbelievably cheap these days.  I 
see high-end ones going for well under $1,000 on a regular, if not daily, 
basis.   Due to a combined effect of several years of market 
over-saturation,  too many people without real winters buying them for the 
novelty which later wore off, the advent of plus size tires that provide 
most of the benefits without the drawbacks of true fat tires, and the 
normal hype of ever-newer/better standards, they haven't held their value.  
And unlike regular mountain bikes, most haven't seen the mileage or hard 
riding abuse, either.  

Even though I'm still riding an "older" one, and even though the novelty 
did wear off a bit for me too, mine is still one of the few bikes I would 
never, ever give up.   It still puts a smile on my face and It truly did 
extend my riding season by 7 months out of the year.  I don't think your 
winters are too much more mild than mine but, if they are, remember that 
you can always use the hunquapillar on "nice" days.  Just get some studded 
tires and keep the fenders.

Kind of like a Hunquapillar or a Bombadil, a good, rigid fat bike harkens 
back to the early, pre-NORBA days of mountain biking when we rode them to 
explore and to get out in the woods.  But they're a lot more comfortable.  
And one of the great things about fat bikes that most people don't talk 
about, is that you can ride trails when they're damp without damaging 
them.  


On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 11:55:57 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> The high price option is new wheelset for the Hunqapillar with IGH, drum 
> brakes, and dyno. Ideas for the simpler, low cost version? My thoughts: 
>
> 1. Chain protector/guard (ideas for a hearty one that will keep the 
> drivetrain dry?) 
> 2. Annual Autumn cable replace/lube (obvious, but worth naming) 
> 3. Other ideas? All weather braking? 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Re: FS: All-Paul SS Set Up, and Misc

[MartyG]

Crankset may still be available for $165 shipped if anyone is interested. 

On Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 3:23:45 PM UTC-5, Doug Bloch wrote:
>
> I find these crank sets to be exquisite. Congrats to the buyer.
>
> Doug 
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[RBW] Re: FS: All-Paul SS Set Up, and Misc

[Doug Bloch]

I find these crank sets to be exquisite. Congrats to the buyer.

Doug 

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Grant:

I'm not sure how I would feel if people wrote about me like that.  I found 
the posts ridiculously over the top in proportion your niche in the bike 
world and advocacy for steel bikes.  The first thread I found seemed to 
have an undercurrent of affection with some of the posts, the later one, 
not so much.  I didn't participate in the threads and now that I know your 
feelings on the matter, I won't in the future.  You did talk to me once a 
few months ago when I called with questions about a frame (which I ended up 
getting).  You were super nice to me and I found you to be the opposite of 
pretentious.  In fact, part of our conversation involved you trying really 
hard to get me to quit calling you "sir" as I tried explaining I was 
military and it pretty strongly ingrained.  

RBW did give me the two best bikes I've ever had and has me out riding 
every day.

Ann

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[RBW] Winterizing Ideas?

[Deacon Patrick]

I should add that fenders are a well tried and tested option that works in 
concept except I don’t like it with knobbies, so a rejected option.

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[RBW] Winterizing Ideas?

[Deacon Patrick]

The high price option is new wheelset for the Hunqapillar with IGH, drum 
brakes, and dyno. Ideas for the simpler, low cost version? My thoughts:

1. Chain protector/guard (ideas for a hearty one that will keep the drivetrain 
dry?)
2. Annual Autumn cable replace/lube (obvious, but worth naming)
3. Other ideas? All weather braking?

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: FS: All-Paul SS Set Up, and Misc

[MartyG]

>
> Couple updates. Suntour Mark II is spoken for, as is the Paul crankset and 
> the Nitto rear. Prices for remaining items:
>

Paul 27.2 seatpost: $65 shipped 
Paul wheelset:$325 shipped
Paul front Racer & moon unit: $80 shipped
Nitto front rack: $55 shipped
MKS pedals: $25 shipped

 

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>
> MKS touring pedals - black cages. $25 shipped
>
>
> 
>
> Check out the album on Flickr for more photos:  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/albums/72157662298694248
>
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
>
> Marty
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tubeless Maintenance

[Patrick Moore]

As I said earlier, my own experience with Stan's is that, when it dries, it
does form little rubber marbles or octopuses or boogers, what have you;
this both in tubes and in tires without tubes. In one tube, ridden for 12
to 18 months with Stan's added initially but not thereafter (sealant seems
to last much longer in tubes than in thinwall, tubeless tire casings), I
finally got a thorn flat that pumping and spinning wouldn't seal; so I
replaced the tube with the spare, thinking I'd add more sealant to the
flatted one when I got home.

Upon closer examination, at home, I discovered that the Stan's had dried
into a bolus gathered near the valve.  So, I tossed that tube.

Orange Seal, OTOH, seems not to produce such boluses when it dries. I've
not examined a tube that has contained OS for 18 months -- I've just been
riding them and waiting for the flats that don't seem to occur or, at
least, can be solved by pumping and spinning -- but again, when I opened my
tubeless F Fred after the first year of OS, there was naught but a very
fine film coating the innards of the casing.

So, upshot: You really don't need to do anything, as long as you don't mind
rubber marbles inside your tire; they don't weight much at all. OTOH, again
IME, Stan's will form those marbles, so that there will be, or may well be,
something for you to actually remove, if indeed you decide to go into the
trouble of opening up the tire.

Let us know what you find, if you do so!

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:32 AM, Kellie  wrote:

> Well, I am using Stan's, but tubeless. Any Stan's users to weight in here?
> Thanks Nels, Phillip and Patrick.
>
> On Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 2:16:57 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>>
>> So my sealant is lasting about 4 months before I have to replenish.
>> Should one do some cleaning of interior parts at some point to get rid of
>> dried, old sealant?
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Big Back Rack & Brooks Select Flyer

[Ken Yokanovich]

The saddle was listed by the seller on eBay instead 
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F192348479141
 

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[RBW] El Cerrito High School Mountain Bike Racing team fundraiser

[Bill Lindsay]

As many of you know, I'm the volunteer team mechanic for the local public 
High School Mountain Bike team. We're a 100% self-supported team, with no 
school money paying for our activities. The League we race in is called 
Norcal:  https://www.norcalmtb.org/  We race in the southern division of 
Norcal, against teams from Berkeley, Albany, Oakland San Francisco, and the 
Monterey Peninsula. The Marin teams are all in the Northern Division. In 
our division, the races are dominated by Salinas High School. They have a 
huge team, and are very well organized. Last year we came in 2nd place 
right behind Salinas, and were able to beat both Berkeley and Albany, with 
our smallish team of ~16 riders. This year our team has grown to nearly 30, 
and we only have one or two seniors, so we are definitely on the upswing. 
Our team has a higher percentage of scholarship riders than most, where we 
provide bikes, equipment and registration fees to a significant number of 
our riders. We have a few rising stars in the league and think the Salinas 
Cowboys might start to hear footsteps...the footsteps of the El Cerrito 
Gauchos.  

My own personal contributions to the team are in the form of time and 
money. I'm the 'on-call' mechanic for all the kids, helping keep the bikes 
in good repair and helping the kids learn how to maintain their own bikes 
and do trailside repairs. I also maintain our loaner fleet of race bikes. 
My big new activity was to build and equip our race day tool board into the 
door of our team trailer. I took about $500 and a couple days out of my 
sabbatical to build this up, and I was really proud of the results. TEAM 
TOOL BOARD 

Now, on race days, I won't have to strip my own tool board bare and throw 
it all into a duffel bag. 

Being a volunteer working with these kids has been kind of a fountain of 
youth experience for me. It is really great to be around high school 
athletes that are super supportive of one another. Mountain bike racing is 
one of those precious few sports where boys and girls are all on the same 
team and all contributing, and I treasure that race day atmosphere and 
watching the kids gain confidence in their abilities. They inspire me more 
than I could have imagined. 

Today is our one big fundraiser. The kids are doing a spin-a-thon event at 
Cyclebar in Berkeley. The kids were all encouraged to sell 'sponsorships' 
that go towards a raffle for some local prizes like A's tickets and other 
stuff. I plan on throwing a donation into the pot, independent of the 
raffle stuff.  If any of you feel so inclined, and you want to grow the 
size of the donation I make to ECHS Mountain Bike Racing, you can paypal 
money to my gmail: tapebubba  ...at...  gmail.  If you want our tax id 
number, let me know. This RBW Group helped a ton in helping pay for our 
trailer last year.  Thanks, and  Go Gauchos!

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] FS: All-Paul SS Set Up, and Misc

[MartyG]

I'm making a run at an N+0 lifestyle, and parting ways with some cool 
stuff, or stuff that won't fit "N". (Huge Roscoe Mixte)

First up is a SS groupo  based on Paul Components: Crankset, Seatpost, 
Front Racer, and Rich-built Paul hubs laced to MA-2 700c, 36h rims, White 
freewheel, (21t I think) and a 22 fixed cog, with new Schwalbe CX-Pro 
tires. Worked great on a Quickbeam I once had. How about $750 shipped? Open 
to breaking up the set, but will give first dibs to someone who may want it 
all. Check my Flickr album for more photos. 









I have a couple Nitto racks, Front and rear. The rear measures 13" from 
lower bolt hole to bottom of rack. Comes with the bolt on taillight 
bracket. How about $85 shipped for the rear and $55 shipped for the front? 







NIB Suntour Cyclone Mark II front der - endless band type - $25 shipped




MKS touring pedals - black cages. $25 shipped




Open to bundle offers. Check out the album on Flickr for more photos:  
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Thanks for looking!


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[RBW] FS: Parts Bin Purge

[Keith Muller]

VO brakeset is spoken for.

Keith

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[RBW] Re: Tubeless Maintenance

[Kellie]

Well, I am using Stan's, but tubeless. Any Stan's users to weight in here? 
Thanks Nels, Phillip and Patrick.

On Saturday, November 4, 2017 at 2:16:57 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
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> So my sealant is lasting about 4 months before I have to replenish. Should 
> one do some cleaning of interior parts at some point to get rid of dried, 
> old sealant?
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Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

P.s.  I realize the Schwalbe delta cruisers are not likely the best “all 
weather” or “winter” tires but they’d go nicely with the rest of the build and 
this would be intended to just allow me a fendered wet weather road bike with 
plusher rubber that the currently maxed 700x32 and may even have room for the 
even plusher col de la vie 650a/590 tire (40mm I think)

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Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Genuine concern and not just playing devil’s advocate... but is it possible for 
many caliper/canti designed forks to lack strength or lower blade reinforcement 
for the lever arm of drums (similar to the way discs could overpower and 
crumple some forks if not made with discs in mind) ?  Clearly not an issue with 
the Guv’nor that’s designed around them but maybe so for other bikes/forks?  

I had questioned a similar conversion on my single speed although took a 
different path to get there:
It started with the discovery of toe overlap on the 700c single speed combined 
with a new (to me) old Raleigh frame that was intended to just be bigger frame 
to move the whole build over from a much too small 21” Raleigh sports 3 speed 
with 26 x 1-3/8 wheels.  The measurements were a little suspect from the ad but 
pics confirmed a very large Raleigh 3 speed frame with locking fork as on the 
Superbes... but it was labeled “Deluxe” and listed as 25” frame. Turns out the 
bigger frame is actually 25” center to center seat tube and with a much longer 
fork than the Raleigh Sports and takes a 700cx35 easily with tektro 559 xlong 
reach brakes.  It’s close in stand over to my Schwinn 27” framed bike with 
700cx33.  So I have these practically new cream delta cruisers in 26x1-3/8 size 
that were supposed to be for the bigger 3 speed project but I now have other 
plans for that with the Raleigh Deluxe frame also already having dropouts that 
take modern 9mm front and 10mm rear axles rather than those of my original 
Sturmey Archer aw rear and dynamo front of the sports. 

So back to the 700c singlespeed... tire clearance is max at 700x32 rear with 
539 tektro brakes 47-57mm reach.  A little more wiggle room up front but not 
much and no fender clearance.  Harris Cyclery offers a 26x1-3/8 fixed/fixed 
budget wheel with sun cr18 rim and sealed hubs with  120 spacing for conversion 
of old 3 speed frames but this would be an immediate fit on my single speed.  
But the matching front has an axle to match the thinner axle of the old Raleigh 
hubs/forks and wouldn’t fit my modern 100mmx9mm fork.  So I instead consider a 
custom front with new SA drum brake hub with cr18 rim to match the harris stock 
fixed rear wheel.  This eliminates calipers altogether and with the frame 
having no cable stops for rear brake cabling anyway if running fixed only and 
drum front it would be a suitable all weather rig now with room for fenders 
with the smaller 650a/590bsd/26x1-3/8 wheel vs the 700c/622bsd.  I never 
followed through due to budget constraints and poor timing for any new projects 
and then began to question whether the fork is built to withstand the localized 
forces of a drum brake anyway?  This is the stock fork on a Milwaukee Orange 
One.  The frame is tig’d by Waterford but the fork is imported from Taiwan and 
otherwise appears to be the same spec as a Surly Pacer fork but not sure if 
they are really the same.

Anyway... Love some of these ideas but haven’t brought myself to try them yet 
and in the interim just riding what I’ve got.

Cheers,
Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

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Re: [RBW] Pashley What If...

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for the name change. It does make it easier to address a particular
remark to a person.

Regarding wheels: a 700C wheel with a 44 m tire will be just about the same
diameter as a 635 wheel with 38 mm tire, at least according to Jim's trail
calculator. I rather think that Guvnor with the Snoqualmie Pass extra
lights might be a very wonderful ride.

Dave, I swear to myself I'll not make an offer for it, but come 2018, and
my tax money set aside, and various other expenses, plus some savings
(???!!!) in place, and you still have it -- I dunno. I really wish I could
test ride one.

Back to drum brakes: I had a Worksman tricycle that had a front drum, and
it worked alright; certainly as well as the cheap calipers or V brakes or
cantis that generally come on a bicycle of the same quality as that
tricycle; but I've been very tempted to try another bike with drums.

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:38 PM, Dave Grossman  wrote:

> I have two bikes currently with drum brakes including my for sale Guv'nor
> and a Workcycles Transport Double Top Tube.  They are not hydro discs but
> nothing is.  I have XT hydros on my Jones and they are the best brakes I
> have ever used.  However, I think the drums are great.  They are impervious
> to weather, require just a bit of grease in their port, and never really
> change feel.  I would buy them over cheap discs without a doubt.
>
> I'm not so sure I would consider changing the wheels on the Guv.  I get
> the issue with limited tire options but the huge wheels and low trail is
> what makes the bike so magical.  It is so smooth and smaller wheels would
> surely change the feel.  I've owned a lot of 26" bikes and I have lots of
> love for them but this is a different feel altogether.
>
> And Patrick, I changed my name in the settings.  I belong to a number of
> cycling forums and most folks don't go by there real names but rather a
> handle.  As it seems somewhat the norm here to use names, per your
> suggestion, I have changed it up.  I've bought and sold a number of times
> on here as my handle though without anyone saying a thing.
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Re: [RBW] Tubeless Maintenance

[Patrick Moore]

Note thought that, at least in my own case, with Stan's, a year's worth of
use and replenishment in a dry climate left rubber solids in the tire (or
tube, since I've had to toss a tube when all the Stan's coagulated near the
valve in a solid globule). One more reason for preferring Orange Seal.

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Nels Sorenson 
wrote:

> I've had the same experience with Orange Seal.
> I would only clean it off the rim when changing tires. Leaves a very thin
> film.
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[RBW] Re: Rivendell on the C&V Forum

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All I can write about this is that the only thing true is Truth Itself, and 
Truth is All .  

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