[RBW] Quick FAQ? What’s the rear spacing on the Atlantis?

[John W]

My Google-fu is off and I can’t find the answer to this definitively. Is it 
135? 132.5? And has it changed through the years?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[lum gim fong]

Stems:
1. Nitto Technomic Deluxe 6cm/22.2/26.0/190-287g
2. Nitto Technomic Deluxe 7cm/225/25.4/22.2-328g
3. Nitto Pearl 8cm/22.2/26.0- 296g
4. Nitto Pearl 8cm/22.2/25.4- 299g

Handlebars:
1. Nitto 41cm (“410”) Model 177 Noodle-322g
2. Nitto 40cm (“400”) M151F bar- 339g
3. Nitto 52cm Aluminum Heat Treated Bosco Bar-384g

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Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[lum gim fong]

Some components have a function that pays their way in their weight.

For instance, I simply must have a Flyer saddle. 865g.
Worth every gram to me.

Also, 42mm, low pressur, supple tires for safety. Sure they are heavier than 
23mm, but for safety, I don’t want to ride any narrower than 42.
Anything narrower than 32mm where I ride gets caught in road cracks and I have 
snagged tires and crashed. Broke my arm once. So 19-28mm tires are not worth 
the weight savings for me.
I need to roll over stuff and not get The front tire entangled and throwing me 
to the ground.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour Power Thumb Shifters

[J Imler]

Here's a link to my setup 
- 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Otd4vV1utzGCgHK2NVYn_M8QFwlkHUIz?usp=sharing
 
Shout out to Mark in Beacon for the Burley trailer recommendation. My 
little boy is digging it.

Excuse my after dinner gut in pic 3. I'm enjoying the shifter and shifter 
placement. This particular placement makes the cable and housing do a curly 
q type of thing but works no problem. My bike has a 7 speed freewheel.

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 5:10:04 PM UTC-8, ed wrote:
>
> All this discussion on Suntour thumb shifters makes me want to purchase a 
> pair while waiting for the Silver 2's
>
> Which particular Suntour thumb shifter can be used for 8 speed cogs?
> Can this be installed inside the handlebar?
>
> Thanks guys for any help.
> Ed
>
> On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Belopsky  > wrote:
>
>> Not to crash the party but I have a set of those Suntour I want to sell. 
>> 22.2mm clamp. Can't use them on my bars that I thought were 22.2 but theyre 
>> 23.8 so...
>>
>> Mine are these: 
>> http://velobase.com/CompImages/Shifter/0203796F-1215-46BA-8B1A-C04CF4702723.jpeg
>>
>> $40 shipped
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Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[Steve Palincsar]

On 01/27/2018 07:40 PM, ted wrote:


Some mfg. quoted handlebar weights
  Nitto 176 (aka dream)   315gr
  Compass Maes Parallel 25.4 superlight   289gr
  Ritchey wcs neoclassic 260gr
  Ritchey wcs carbon neoclassic 213gr

No doubt the Compass bars are fine, and I wouldn't call them heavy, 
but I do think there are a lot more sub 300gr bars on the market in 
31.8 than 26.0 or 25.4 (I doubt that the Ritchey products are 
particularly unique). Also clearly there are lighter bars on the 
market (in 31.8) than the Compass "superlight" options.
If one wants to minimize the weight of a Roadeo frame, fork, stem and 
bars I believe that choosing the threadles fork option would be the 
way to go. Ready availability of lighter bar options plays a part in that.
No doubt readily available threadles stems are also lighter than quill 
options. E.g. a 110mm Nitto pearl is ~345gr and a 120mm Ritchey wcs 
220 stem only weighs ~140gr. But the threadless stem needs to be 
clamped to a length of steerer tube thats not there with a quill stem 
setup, and I don't know how much that hunk of tube adds.


On the other hand I have an old Synchros 26.0 quill stem and Ritchey 
bar that weigh 437gr combined. That's about 197gr (or about .43Lb) 
less than the Nitto Pearl stem and Compass superlight bar combined. So 
I'm not convinced that quill setups can't be as light at threadless, 
but I am convinced that sticking to whats sold all over the place they 
aren't.


However, it is worth mentioning that when it comes to handlebars, the 
shape is at least as important as the weight and should factor heavily 
in the choice.   The wrong bar is going to hold you back a lot more than 
the weight differential would do.



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[RBW] Backpedal Braking

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks, Erl. I “ran into” a guy I sometimes ride with on the trails and he 
tried the fixed, though the 66 Quickbeam is a bit large for him. He viscerally 
did not like it. There is definately a stigma attached, deserved or not I can’t 
say, but it is amazing how something that doesn’t look different at all is 
vastly experientially different. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Cambium C-17 slate, as new

[Neil Doran]

Saddle is sold, thanks Drew!

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 1:48:42 PM UTC-8, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Brooks Cambium C-17, slate, as new condition. Installed once and 
> immediately removed. $80 shipped CONUS.
>
> Wanna trade? I would consider trades for brifters or Soma Cazadero tires.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Suntour Power Thumb Shifters

[Ed Fausto]

All this discussion on Suntour thumb shifters makes me want to purchase a
pair while waiting for the Silver 2's

Which particular Suntour thumb shifter can be used for 8 speed cogs?
Can this be installed inside the handlebar?

Thanks guys for any help.
Ed

On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:50 AM, Belopsky  wrote:

> Not to crash the party but I have a set of those Suntour I want to sell.
> 22.2mm clamp. Can't use them on my bars that I thought were 22.2 but theyre
> 23.8 so...
>
> Mine are these: http://velobase.com/CompImages/Shifter/0203796F-
> 1215-46BA-8B1A-C04CF4702723.jpeg
>
> $40 shipped
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[RBW] FS: Sugino XD2L Cranks and Kool Stop Eagle 2 Pads

[Dave Grossman]

Still got em

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Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[ted]

Some mfg. quoted handlebar weights
  Nitto 176 (aka dream)   315gr
  Compass Maes Parallel 25.4 superlight   289gr
  Ritchey wcs neoclassic 260gr
  Ritchey wcs carbon neoclassic 213gr

No doubt the Compass bars are fine, and I wouldn't call them heavy, but I 
do think there are a lot more sub 300gr bars on the market in 31.8 than 
26.0 or 25.4 (I doubt that the Ritchey products are particularly unique). 
Also clearly there are lighter bars on the market (in 31.8) than the 
Compass "superlight" options.
If one wants to minimize the weight of a Roadeo frame, fork, stem and bars 
I believe that choosing the threadles fork option would be the way to go. 
Ready availability of lighter bar options plays a part in that.
No doubt readily available threadles stems are also lighter than quill 
options. E.g. a 110mm Nitto pearl is ~345gr and a 120mm Ritchey wcs 220 
stem only weighs ~140gr. But the threadless stem needs to be clamped to a 
length of steerer tube thats not there with a quill stem setup, and I don't 
know how much that hunk of tube adds.

On the other hand I have an old Synchros 26.0 quill stem and Ritchey bar 
that weigh 437gr combined. That's about 197gr (or about .43Lb) less than 
the Nitto Pearl stem and Compass superlight bar combined. So I'm not 
convinced that quill setups can't be as light at threadless, but I am 
convinced that sticking to whats sold all over the place they aren't.



 

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Atlantis Double TT Slow-build pics

[Tim Bantham]

The build is looking great. I love the parts and Nitto racks that you 
selected. Looking forward to seeing the finished product. 


On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 10:06:55 PM UTC-5, Birdman wrote:
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> Hey bunch,
>
> After many months of accumulating parts, not to mention waiting on the 
> frame, I've finally started building up the new ATL.  I've been dreaming 
> about this bike for about 16 years, so it's incredibly gratifying to see it 
> coming together.  I'll be building it up over the next week or so and will 
> document here:
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmd8YyTQ
>
> So. stoked.  Thanks for letting me share with y'all.
>
> brdmn
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[RBW] Backpedal Braking

[WETH]

Patrick,
I am so glad to read how well the fixed gear is working for you in the 
conditions you enjoy!
The more you share, the more intrigued I get about fixed gear.  A set-up I 
never thought much about.  I look forward to reading more about your 
experiences.
Thanks,
Erl 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[Steve Palincsar]

Not sure what you mean by "lightweight bars" but the Compass Maes 
Parallel and Randonneur handlebars are available in 25.4 diameter in 
"superlight" versions that are under 300 grams; they can be used with 
26.0 diameter stems with shims.   The bars also available in 31.8 diameter.



On 01/27/2018 05:40 PM, ted wrote:

I think a half lb may be overstating it, keep in mind that just comparing stem 
and bar weights isn't the whole story since the threadles style needs a longer 
(and thus heavier) steerer tube. But most lightweight bars sold these days are 
31.8, as are threadles stems whereas I doubt you'll find a light quill stem 
with a 31.8 clamp.
If your going to be a weight watcher going with threadles does make sense.



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Re: [RBW] Re: 65cm Atlantis Double TT Slow-build pics

[R Shannon]

Been there, done that LOL!

Have fun,
Richard

On Sat, Jan 27, 2018 at 5:38 PM, Birdman  wrote:

> Thanks! Just installed the front rack and Edelux today. I’m going to
> regret installing the racks before finishing the brakes and installing
> fenders, but I couldn’t help tinkering while waiting on the wheelset.
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[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[ted]

I think a half lb may be overstating it, keep in mind that just comparing stem 
and bar weights isn't the whole story since the threadles style needs a longer 
(and thus heavier) steerer tube. But most lightweight bars sold these days are 
31.8, as are threadles stems whereas I doubt you'll find a light quill stem 
with a 31.8 clamp.
If your going to be a weight watcher going with threadles does make sense.

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Atlantis Double TT Slow-build pics

[Birdman]

Thanks! Just installed the front rack and Edelux today. I’m going to regret 
installing the racks before finishing the brakes and installing fenders, but I 
couldn’t help tinkering while waiting on the wheelset.

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Atlantis Double TT Slow-build pics

[RichS]

Looking good! Really nice parts. It'll be worth the long wait.

Congratulations!
Richard

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 10:06:55 PM UTC-5, Birdman wrote:
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> Hey bunch,
>
> After many months of accumulating parts, not to mention waiting on the 
> frame, I've finally started building up the new ATL.  I've been dreaming 
> about this bike for about 16 years, so it's incredibly gratifying to see it 
> coming together.  I'll be building it up over the next week or so and will 
> document here:
>
> https://flic.kr/s/aHsmd8YyTQ
>
> So. stoked.  Thanks for letting me share with y'all.
>
> brdmn
>

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[RBW] Backpedal Braking

[Deacon Patrick]

In which I pedal backwards pedaling forwards, all in the spectacular and 
successful attempt to defy gravity just a wee bit. Grin.
https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/backpedal-braking 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: A Better Mousetrap: Riv Pletscher rack review

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I saw this bike in the Clem thread. Very nice. I noticed that you can even 
get a kid seat that works with these racks. I had to pick up my son from 
his cartooning class last night, grabbed the bike in this thread, planning 
to walk with him the few blocks home. But then I had him hop on the rack 
facing backward and we pedaled home that way, very common transport in 
China, India. I would not do it with regularity or for any real distance, 
but worked great in a pinch. He's 8 and maybe 50 or 60 pounds. (Not 
endorsed by RBW! Please don't try this with your own 8yr old 60-pounder!)

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 11:02:37 AM UTC-5, DadDadDaddio wrote:
>
>
> 
> I agree with OP's observations ... very solid rack, very flexible mounting 
> options. Here's a pic of the rack with Pletscher's EasyFix basket; solid, 
> snap-in/out mounting system.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr L

[RichS]

That’s a great looking machine. Seems like reasonable price too.

Best,
Richard

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[RBW] Re: FS: Canti brake sets - Tektro, VO Grand Cru and Avid Shorty Ultimate

[Ash]

All are sold !




On Thursday, 18 January 2018 17:53:16 UTC-8, Ash wrote:
>
> Tektro and Avid are sold.
>
>
> Still available: VO Grand Cru Zeste - $60
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 16 January 2018 12:48:31 UTC-8, Ash wrote:
>>
>>
>> Price drop:
>>
>> Tektro CR710 - $35
>> VO Grand Cru Zeste - $60
>> Avid Short Ultimate - $75
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 30 December 2017 16:00:48 UTC-8, Ash [who works to bike] 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Accumulated these in the process of deciding on brakes for my Appaloosa 
>>> back in June.  I have used them each for 100 miles or less.  
>>>
>>> Prices shipped (within USA).  All are front/back set.
>>>
>>> Tektro CR710 - $45
>>> VO Grand Cru Zeste - $70
>>> Avid Short Ultimate - $90
>>>
>>> Pictures:
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ccarTTwW0tQrGxk42
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Some early Spring Cleaning

[Fullylugged]

Hi all:  I'm hoping to cut down the clutter in my garage by moving some items I 
just don't seem to use. All prices are PLUS shipping, the price of which will 
depend on how you want it sent and where to. Paypal (no fees) will work or you 
can snail a check. (My other hobby is fountain pens so I'm happy to start 
snailing). Pictures of these on my Flickr page, link below (Bruce 841). 

Set of 26" wheels, made by Rich at H.O.W. Velocity Dyad rims, 28s with DB 
stainless spokes on Phil hubs. The rear hub is for freewheel. (I have some if 
you need. email me) I just never used these much. I prefer the stock Arraya 
that came on the Ram, so I just rebuilt them with new hubs and can sell these. 
$375/set. That's like buying the rear hub alone and getting the rest for free.

Set of 650B wheels. Nexave 36s hubs, SG stainless spokes, Sun rims. The rims 
are a hair big. Fabric bead tires go on fine. A Pascenti 38mm Pari-Moto is 
pictured. The rear is cross 4 drive side, cross 3 non drive Front is cross 3. 
Solid rims, okay hubs.  Almost zero miles. Shimano standard cassette hub.  
$150/set

Front 26" road wheel. Deore LX hub 36s, cross 3. Mavic 317 rim.  Very nice and 
durable wheel. $50

Rivendell "Hupe".  Mounts to your seat stays if they are not too fat and holds 
a bag up off your back tire. Originally dipped in plastic, that has cracked and 
gone. You could wrap with Newbaum tape or other, depending on your stay 
diameter. $20

Pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/albums/72157685476955302

Some of the other stuff there is still around. Ask if interested.

Thanks

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[RBW] Did you lose a Sam H in PDX?

[ant ritchey]

Came across this post on CL this morn:

https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/found-rivendell-sam-hillborne/6474538877.html

I am not the poster of this ad nor the finder of this bicycle but wanted to 
put this out there!

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[RBW] Re: Have a Sub 20lb Roadeo?

[JohnS]

Isn't it still true that you can save 1/2 pound with a threadless steerer 
tube? Seems like that would help with getting to sub 20lbs. That's what I 
would prefer to have on my Roadeo, someday

JohnS


On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 1:52:55 PM UTC-5, LBleriot wrote:
>
> Without the B17 and enormously heavy Crane bell, this gets pretty close 20 
> lbs.
>
> On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 6:21:48 PM UTC-5, lum gim fong wrote:
>>
>> Reading Grant interview where he was saying they were shooting for sub-20 
>> wihen they developed  the Roadeo and was wondering if anyone here has 
>> realized this on their Roadeo.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[JohnS]

Max, awesome builds, both bikes look great! Someday I'll have a Roadeo!

Thanks for sharing,
JohnS


On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 12:00:53 PM UTC-5, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
>
> I have both bikes, and have put them both through thousands of miles and a 
>> variety of equipment iterations.  Not much difference between them (see 
>> caveat below).
>>
>
> Roadeo:
>  
>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625293944684
>>
>
> Rambouillet: 
>
>  https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157635034191456
>
> love them both, love 'em a lot. To me, the rides are basically the same - 
> comfortable, stable.  I've ridden them both with light loads (maybe 3-4 lbs 
> in the handlebar bag) and had no problems a-tall.  The Roadeo is a bit 
> lighter, feels a bit more sprightly on the steep climbs.  But just a bit.  
> They are both smooth as butter and very comfortable.
>
> It's a Betty vs Veronica  choice - they are both great.
>
> Caveat: my opinions are untrained, unscientific.  I don't know planing 
> from potholes. I'm big, old, slow, and ride for fun.  Both bikes are fun 
> and ride beautifully. 
>
> I've updated both bikes since I put those albums together, I'll try to 
> post new images soon.
>
> best,
>
> Max Beach
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto 32F, with front tab!

[HKett]

Hi all,

I'm looking for a Nitto 32F mini-front rack, but I'd love one with the 
front light mount tab. It seems the newly produced ones no longer have this 
feature. 
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/racks/products/nitto-mini-front-rack-32f-20020

If you have one you're looking to move along please message me!

Thanks!

-Holger

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[RBW] Re: A Better Mousetrap: Riv Pletscher rack review

[Bruce d]

The rack is back in stock at Riv!

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Re: [RBW] Tektro R559 vs. Dia-Compe 750 centerpulls.

[Philip Kim]

If you only need 65mm brake reach the centerbolt Paul Racers are great, the 
brazeon versions are even better.

The tekto 559s with koolstop worked great for use with flat bar brake levers, 
but didn't feel great with road brake levers.

Not a fan of the dia compe 750s, though they look the best.

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[RBW] Re: My trials and tribulations with upright bars

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Me too :)  Bosco bars rock!

On Saturday, January 27, 2018 at 11:16:31 AM UTC-6, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> Loved the Bosco bars on my appaloosa

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[RBW] Re: My trials and tribulations with upright bars

[Philip Kim]

Loved the Bosco bars on my appaloosa

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet vs. Roadeo?

[reynoldslugs]

> I have both bikes, and have put them both through thousands of miles and a 
> variety of equipment iterations.  Not much difference between them (see 
> caveat below).
>

Roadeo:
 

> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625293944684
>

Rambouillet: 

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157635034191456

love them both, love 'em a lot. To me, the rides are basically the same - 
comfortable, stable.  I've ridden them both with light loads (maybe 3-4 lbs 
in the handlebar bag) and had no problems a-tall.  The Roadeo is a bit 
lighter, feels a bit more sprightly on the steep climbs.  But just a bit.  
They are both smooth as butter and very comfortable.

It's a Betty vs Veronica  choice - they are both great.

Caveat: my opinions are untrained, unscientific.  I don't know planing from 
potholes. I'm big, old, slow, and ride for fun.  Both bikes are fun and 
ride beautifully. 

I've updated both bikes since I put those albums together, I'll try to post 
new images soon.

best,

Max Beach



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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Cambium C-17 slate, as new

[Ty Smith]

Just an endorsement of the C17. This is a great deal!

I have two of them, but the carved with the cutout.  I have been a 
tradition B17 guy for years but started having some middle-aged male issues 
so tried one out. I found it unbelievably comfortable right out of the box. 
I know Neil is selling the traditional model, but the way the rubber acts 
as a shock absorber should transfer across to the non-carved model as well.

 Aesthetically, I do still prefer the leather B17, but for comfort the C17 
is it for me. Another nice bonus is that you do not need to cover them in 
the rain. One is on my rando bike and the other is on my Brompton.

Ty

On Friday, January 26, 2018 at 1:48:42 PM UTC-8, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Brooks Cambium C-17, slate, as new condition. Installed once and 
> immediately removed. $80 shipped CONUS.
>
> Wanna trade? I would consider trades for brifters or Soma Cazadero tires.
>

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[RBW] Re: Velocity customer service

['Tony McG' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Was it a 130 or 135 spacing? I emailed Velocity last year and they told me 
that they do not make silver 135 hubs. My Atlantis deserves a better 
wheelset, but I think Rivs look better in silver than black.

On Thursday, January 25, 2018 at 8:47:45 AM UTC-6, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> I want to once again publicly plug velocity for there customer service.  I 
> got a new rear wheel for my quickbeam and really wanted a 36h silver hub 
> which they don't stock anymore because nobody orders them so I was content 
> with the 36h black.  Well I just opened the box and I am surprised and 
> delighted to find an atlas wheel laced to a 36h SILVER hub.  If you're in 
> the market for new wheels buy velocity, and thru Riv when possible.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway
> www.ChicaGoByBoat.com  
> @svnightswimming
>
>

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[RBW] Re: A Better Mousetrap: Riv Pletscher rack review

[DadDadDaddio]

I agree with OP's observations ... very solid rack, very flexible mounting 
options. Here's a pic of the rack with Pletscher's EasyFix basket; solid, 
snap-in/out mounting system.

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[RBW] Re: A Better Mousetrap: Riv Pletscher rack review

[DadDadDaddio]

A agree with the OP's observations regarding the Clem rack ... very solid, 
very flexible installation options. I thought you might want to see what 
the Pletscher EasyFit basket looks like on the Clem rack. It's pretty 
handy; clicks in solidly and easy to mount/remove. 



On Wednesday, January 24, 2018 at 6:37:03 AM UTC-7, Mark in Beacon wrote:
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> I bought the Riv Pletscher when I bought my Clementine, but that bike was 
> designated for hauling the Burley Piccolo, so it got the Moose rack, and 
> the Pletscher got lost in the parts closet for a couple of years. As part 
> of the recent (late) winterization of the Trekendell, I finally got around 
> to installing it. I like its elegantly industrial looks, and the fact that 
> it is an improved version of the most ubiquitous rack of all time.
>
> I only installed it yesterday, so this is not a full, over time review, 
> more like first impressions and installation notes. The rack has a more 
> substantial feel in the hand when compared to the standard Pletscher. The 
> finish is like a silvery galvanized with subtle sparkley flakes. Once 
> attached to the bicycle and battened down, it feels as secure as the finest 
> Nitto racks. And holy cow, that spring clamp is serious business, with a 
> powerful action. You probably *could* rig this thing in such a way as to 
> dispatch unwanted rodents with it.
>
> *Installation notes: *It has a few more parts than your average mouse 
> trap, I mean rack, even without the extras like taillight mount and pannier 
> rails, but the directions are okay, and Rivendell Bicycle Works also has a 
> video. My first attempt appeared okay initially, but during the test ride I 
> realized it was too close to the seat stays, and the brake straddle cable 
> was hitting the back of the rack. The reason I did not notice this right 
> away was because I left the house without tightening down the clamps that 
> hold the seat stay struts to the rack. I rode down the block to the bike 
> shop to do this, because the allen head bolts were facing inward, requiring 
> one of those allen wrenches with the ball end to handle the angle. I assume 
> during the short ride, the rack shifted just enough to foul the brake.
>
> When I returned home, I did two things: I lowered the rack struts going to 
> the rear hub and I replaced the struts going to the seat stays. I'm not 
> sure if the ones I used came with the rack as a second pair or I had them 
> in my rack parts, but by using them I was able to turn the clamp block 
> thing so that the allen heads were facing outward, much more convenient, 
> and, I would think, the way it should be/was designed to work. If none of 
> this makes sense, watch the Riv video and you'll see what I mean, but you 
> can also see what I mean by looking at the pics of the rack before (with 
> pink lock) and after (without pink lock) at the link below.
>
> Finally, the tail light mount should be installed before you mount the 
> rack if possible. The little screw that holds it in is tough to get 
> started, and if the rack is mounted low and you have fenders, there is very 
> little room to work with.
>
> *Photo notes:*
> I was itching to go for a ride longer than the grocery store and back, so 
> I took the winterized Trekendelltm (Rat Traps switched for Thunder Burts, 
> fenders installed, racks installed; to come: hook up lights, and make mud 
> flaps!) for a jaunt along the Beacon Loop Trail, which combines Main Street 
> with trails down at the Hudson River. It just so happened that there was 
> "flash fogs" while I was down there, so I got a few fairly dramatic shots. 
> Felt great to jump on the pedals a bit. More photos here: Pletscher Rack 
> and Fog 
>

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[RBW] Re: My trials and tribulations with upright bars

[Larry Charlton]

I'm struggling similarly.  I set up a prototype Appaloosa last spring and 
rode the past season with Albastache bars.  But I always felt like I was 
"in-between" comfort locations.  When sitting upright I found myself 
holding onto the very end of the bars, often actually holding the bar-end 
shifter in the palm of my hand and wishing there was another couple inches 
to grab onto.  But when I stretched out I found the "hooks" of the 
Albastache to be too close.  So I've been sitting here most of the winter 
debating whether to go to something like a Bosco to get the bars closer to 
me or just install some drop bar.  Still can't decide...

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr L

[Belopsky]

I probably go through bikes quicker than you..Only reason I'd sell is to 
fund another Jones (albeit all the bikes I have mean I should really get 
rid of 1 or 2.)

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[RBW] Re: 65cm Atlantis Double TT Slow-build pics

[scott]

Dang, I only dreamed of an Atlantis for 12 years before getting one in 
November. Nice restraint. 

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