[RBW] Re: Hillborne Questions...

[Adam in Indiana]

I think I am leaning toward installing a spacer on the driveside bearing... It 
occurred to me that, since the Sam has 135mm rear spacing, adding a 1.5 or 2mm 
spacer would line the chain up better with the middle of the cassette, anyway.

At least, it sounds good on paper... 

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Sam Hillborne gravel (under)biking?

[John G]

Close, Pearre.

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 10:25:59 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Sams creek road?

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Sam Hillborne gravel (under)biking?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Sams creek road?

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Sam Hillborne gravel (under)biking?

[John G]

Nice report and photos Austin. What a  great day for a ride around these 
parts. I opted for a afternoon ramble in the eastern part of Frederick 
County on my Quickbeam. 
Not too far. 
Not too fast. 
Not too steep. 
Not too short. 
Not too slow. 
Not too flat.
Just...Happiness.

Cheers
John Gorham
Union Bridge, MD


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[RBW] FS: 59 Clem H - Grilver

[tc]

Bike has less than 20 miles on it - really!  Bought new in Feb this year.

   - Standard Riv 'complete' build, $1600 (here 
   
).
  
   Yep, I know they're selling new for $1,450 now, dang it.
   - Jones loop bar, Alum, 710, silver: $119 (here 
   )
   - Nitto UI-12 stem, 60mm reach: $52 (here 
   

   )
   - Jones Kraton grips: $20 (here 
   )
   - 2x Vittoria Mezcal TNT 2.35" tires: $130 (here 
   )

Shimano Saint pedals not included, nor bottle cage.

I'm asking $1,500 for the bike itself, as-is -- plus whatever packing 
($50?) and shipping ($75?) costs.  Contact me off-list if you have 
questions, would like to discuss components.  I'm somewhat flexible on 
price depending on the components you might be interested in, or not.

I'm selling it because my single track options around here have too many 
roots, bumps, etc. for *my* comfort on a fully rigid bike.  I shoulda known 
better.  Today's ride convinced me this is not the bike for me where I'd 
want to ride it.

HOWEVER -- the Clem rolls very smoothly and confidently on pavement and 
packed paths.  I can see why people who like a more upright ride like the 
Clem for roads and paths.  But that's not what I got this bike for.

More pictures here .

Thanks for looking,
Tom

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[RBW] Ride Report: Sam Hillborne gravel (under)biking?

[Deacon Patrick]

Sweet, Austin! I love the Albastache in blue. Well done. Isn’t the flow of 
those bars delightful on the descent (and the climb too, but less so for the 
slower speeds). The feel of picking your line, not thinking but just looking, 
and riding a rail that magically appears on that line. You’ll know you’ve gone 
full nutter when the climb is as much a reward as the top or the descent. Grin.

I gave up trying to figure where the line for underbiking is. As you alude to, 
people ride absurd bikes on rides they don’t need them. Besides, many are 
“sponsored” riders, and my goals are different (have fun), though I’m always 
surprised how many I pass along the way. Bike skills matter far more than the 
perfect gear for a limited use. They can’t ride their bike to the trail easily, 
but I do, and then I ride the trail and enjoy the whole thing. Grin.

Isn’t the change in altitude wondrous? Especially on the cusp between seasons. 
Keep enjoying the ride!

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Ride Report: Sam Hillborne gravel (under)biking?

[Austin B.]

 When does it become underbiking?

I did my first, full-fledged gravel ride on my Sam Hillborne v2.0, Gravel 
Mode.  

Weather was 50-60 degrees, sunny, perfect. I road up the mountain north of 
Frederick MD (locals will know it as the Mountaindale right fork up 
Gambrill Park Rd). I won’t describe it extensively as others on the web 
have already done that including James from Analong (formerly Gravel & 
Grind).  

My 36t cog saw a lot of action for the first time today! Combined with a 
30t chainring up front, gearing didn’t leave me yearning for just one more 
gear during my unloaded ascent up 1100’ of dirt road that is in need of 
some attention following winter. Potholes filled with muddy water, large 
rocks exposed through runoff, and some recently downed trees & branches 
made it interesting. At the top, a plateau along the ridge was waiting for 
me. Short trees, no signs of humans, no sounds of birds, and not a speck of 
green from Spring at that elevation. Desolate. Even a little eerie, like 
the scene at the start of Planet of the Apes where Charlton Heston is 
wandering, looking for signs of life.

The descent was the reward, the pinnacle of today’s ride. Half because of 
the reprieve from 1100’ of continual climbing, half because of the thrill 
of picking a line and heavy braking, half because of the sound and sight of 
the rapids flowing parallel to the road. As Jerry Seinfeld said “How can 
you go wrong?" Totally worth the effort.

I don’t know if I was underbiking or just biking, but my Sam proved worthy 
of the challenge despite the only other bikes up there being suspension MTB 
bikes. My newly-wrapped green Albastache bars worked brilliantly helping to 
dodge & weave to keep to the smoothest line possible. My hands never 
cramped, never went numb as I shifted hand-position often like I do on 
drops. My 2x9 with a 30x36 low gear got the job done and should be adequate 
for most anything I encounter in the Mid-Atlantic. The 42mm Cazaderos, 
sluggish on the pavement, took everything I threw at them on the gravel as 
if to say “That all you got?" Maybe a heavier frame and a wider tire and 
different geometry would've made things a bit easier, but I didn't feel 
limited in any way on my Sam. I am newly impressed at all that this bike 
can do.

Ultimately, I had a peaceful, enjoyable spring day of exploring places I’d 
never gone. And I was able to avoid my 45-year-old body accidentally coming 
in sudden contact with 2 billion-year-old stone. 

Not bad. Not bad at all.

Photos from today added to the top of my Sam Hillborne album: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/LZDRZ23JhgI4lXd52

Austin Bishop
Sykesville, MD

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[RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

[Deacon Patrick]

Aye, Jim, most of my rides have no control(s), so likely qualify as 
(err)randonneering. Grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Pletscher CLEM Rack Dimension Needed

[John Hawrylak]

Bob

Yes, this is the exact dimension I needed.  Thank you very much

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Saturday, March 31, 2018 at 5:30:40 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:

> John,
>
> Is this the dimension you're interested in? If so, you're right -- it is 
> 11 cm.
>
> Bob E
> Cranford, NJ
>
>
> 
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Pletscher CLEM Rack Dimension Needed

[Bob Ehrenbeck]

John,

Is this the dimension you're interested in? If so, you're right -- it is 11 
cm.

Bob E
Cranford, NJ


 

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[RBW] Re: My one-year review of Cheviot

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Josette:

Beautiful bike and I enjoyed the blog.  If you consider the cost of a car 
and gym membership, under 4k is an incredible bargain.  I am very impressed 
that you kept the honey saddle in such good condition throughout all 
weather conditions.

Ann

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Re: [RBW] Re: My one-year review of Cheviot

[Patrick Moore]

And, congratulations on a year's worth of commuting, even in the snow.

I don't think you ought to regret paying for a SON and top-quality light;
you are still south of $4K, you have a beautiful vehicle that will last for
decades; and most of all you are enjoying your commutes -- if cycling isn't
fun, then why bother? -- instead of cursing traffic as you drive a car.

I'm fortunate that I can do most of my errands by bike, and that I live in
a place where winters are mild (we get cold weather -- down to the teens --
but little precipitation -- ABQ, NM).

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Re: [RBW] Re: My one-year review of Cheviot

[Patrick Moore]

Even a stable full of more or less expensive customs, plus all the kit --
extra wheels, tires, parts; then the tools; then the clothing, winter and
summer -- add all this up and you are still quite a bit south of, or no
more than eye level with, the price of the average family sedan or F 150.

I realize that you could fill your garage with $10K+ dentist bikes*, but
I'm talking custom Rivendells. I guess that I would have to stretch to pay
$6K for the most expensive of mine.

* I'm being snide. I may be wrong; there may be a good reason why some
bikes cost $10 or $12K, please inform me if I'm wrong.

Patrick Moore, who will do a 20 year review of his Joe Starck custom next
year (and who just had a nice ride on it).

On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Jay Lonner  wrote:

> Lovely review. In reply to your closing thoughts, I think that ~$4k for
> such a versatile bike is a bargain. I'd rather have a good all-rounder than
> a stable of specialty bikes.
>
> One of the things I love about bicycles is that you can buy something
> exceptional for the price of a beater car. If you amortize the cost over
> the decades of reliable service you can expect from a Riv it's an
> astounding value.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>
> On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 8:25:24 AM UTC-7, Josette Akresh-Gonzales
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Rivendell owners!
>>
>> I am writing to share a blog post I wrote about my Cheviot — impressions,
>> pictures, and stories from this past year commuting to work, running
>> errands, and going out with friends by bike. :)
>>
>> https://josette-the-voice-within.blogspot.com/2018/03/rivend
>> ell-cheviot-one-year-review.html
>>
>> All best,
>> Josette
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[RBW] Bagmatcher seeks Medium Shopsack for sale or trade

[Geoff Klingsporn]

All,

I'd like a Medium Shopsack, preferably in Grid Grey to match other bags,
but Riv is out of stock at the moment. Let me know if you have a spare! If
you'd prefer to trade, I'd be willing to swap nearly-new versions of
the Roadrunner
Front Runner

or
Ostrich handlebar bags. Thanks!

Geoff
(Denver)

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[RBW] Re: Errandonneering 2018

[Jim M.]

i read the title to mean "err" randonneering. I applaud "errand" 
randonneering but I find "err" randonneering more fun.

happy trails
jim m
walnut creek ca

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 7:02:40 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Hey Tom! Aye, 44s fit, at least the Snoqualmie Pass do. No idea on Rock n’ 
> Roads. The 44’s are snug, so no play if your rim goes out of true, and a 
> bit less front to rear space for shifting. I prefer the ultra supple ride 
> of Compass. Estes is beautiful. I grew up in Ft. Collins and grew up 
> playing in the NP. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick

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[RBW] Re: My one-year review of Cheviot

[Jay Lonner]

Lovely review. In reply to your closing thoughts, I think that ~$4k for 
such a versatile bike is a bargain. I'd rather have a good all-rounder than 
a stable of specialty bikes.

One of the things I love about bicycles is that you can buy something 
exceptional for the price of a beater car. If you amortize the cost over 
the decades of reliable service you can expect from a Riv it's an 
astounding value.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 8:25:24 AM UTC-7, Josette Akresh-Gonzales 
wrote:
>
> Hi Rivendell owners!
>
> I am writing to share a blog post I wrote about my Cheviot — impressions, 
> pictures, and stories from this past year commuting to work, running 
> errands, and going out with friends by bike. :)
>
>
> https://josette-the-voice-within.blogspot.com/2018/03/rivendell-cheviot-one-year-review.html
>
> All best,
> Josette
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/T: Sackville SaddleSack Medium

[Max S]

Dave, you are correct. This does appear to be the “Tan”, with a bonus Olive 
pouch and inner flap. 

Folks, the bag is in excellent condition. Please buy so I can indulge my color 
coordinating OCD. 

- Max “Does This Bag Color Go Well With My Tandem?” in A2 



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> Hi Max,
> 
> 
> I have several Sackville bags in the color labelled "tan," and on my monitor 
> this looks like the same color.  
> 
> 
> Dave

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[RBW] Re: FS: 52cm Rivendell Clem Smith Jr L

[Belopsky]

I am open to trades as well

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[RBW] Re: Finished Hunqapillar Build

[Conway Bennett]

I have only ridden it to tune it.  So nothing to report on handling yet.  I 
have a handle bar bag on most bikes I own and I have never experienced handling 
issues.  Maybe because the bags are on the smaller side and I only keep 
necessities that I need at arm's reach in them.  

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[RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

[Tim Bantham]

James, What bars are you using on you Sam in the photo?

On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 2:48:24 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>
> New article up on the Analog Cycles 
>  
> Journal. 
> It's about Turkey Vulture Supreme gearing, a refinement of our super wide 
> range gearing system. Roughly 23% lower gearing on the low end, and the 
> same ole high gearing as a standard touring bike.  We walk through the 
> what, why and how.  If you like really steep roads, or loose steep roads, 
> or riding your touring bike off road, this gearing is for you.  Email me 
> with questions:  Analogcycles at gmail dot com.  
>
>
> https://www.analogcycles.com/2018/03/30/get-your-clutches-into-turkey-vulture-supreme-gearing/
>
>
> 
>
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[RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

[Nick Payne]

On Saturday, 31 March 2018 10:30:18 UTC+11, tc wrote:
>
> Goodness, that’s a pretty scene, Nick. Wow.


Yes, Switzerland is a rather beautiful country. I don't live there but one 
of my brothers does, and I go cycling there fairly frequently. It's not all 
mountains, either. One of the national cycle routes traverses the country 
from East to West (or the other way) past a lot of the lakes, and while you 
see a lot of mountains, you don't actually climb anything more than a few 
hills: https://www.schweizmobil.ch/en/cycling-in-switzerland/route-09.html.

Nick

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