[RBW] Re: Rivs with the Jones Loop/Bend H-Bar (Map/Ahearne too)

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Apparently wrote my message in the middle of quoted text before so trying that 
again...
 Thought I’d share another Jones equipped Riv Clem H... a 65cm beast named Lil’ 
Herman Clemmington.  I’m reviving an old thread but was all set to start my own 
with a longer narrative but accidentally lost it all when I went to switch over 
to desktop mode from mobile so that I could attach a photo... hadn’t tried 
making the switch mid post before and didn’t realize text got wiped like that 
and I’m not inclined to rewrite everything at the moment.  Hope the pic loads 
ok but if not I’ll delete.  This is at our local park alongside an old radio 
tower foundation where first international phone calls were made pre-WWII.  
Lots of these ruins out in the grasses along a stretch of trail.

Brian Cole
Lawrenceville NJ

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 11:22:55 PM UTC-4, Coal Bee Rye Anne wrote:
> On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 4:18:38 AM UTC-4, Tim O. (Portland, OR) wrote:
> > Hey, Y'all-
> > 
> > I got ants in my pants for some new handlebars. I've been riding the 
> > Albatross bars since last spring and I love the upright riding position. 
> > Plus, they're gorgeous/comfy. Although, ever since I've got them I wished 
> > they were wider. Probably didn't help that I was riding the Bullmoose bars 
> > before them or that I have wide shoulders. The Albatross performed well 
> > some long rides and varied terrain,but I wish I could get out of the saddle 
> > more comfortably. 
> Thought I’d share another Jones equipped Riv Clem H... a 65cm beast named 
> Lil’ Herman Clemmington.  I’m reviving an old thread but was all set to start 
> my own with a longer narrative but accidentally lost it all when I went to 
> switch over to desktop mode from mobile so that I could attach a photo... 
> hadn’t tried making the switch mid post before and didn’t realize text got 
> wiped like that and I’m not inclined to rewrite everything at the moment.  
> Hope the pic loads ok but if not I’ll delete.  This is at our local park 
> alongside an old radio tower foundation where first international phone calls 
> were made pre-WWII.  Lots of these ruins out in the grasses along a stretch 
> of trail.
> 
> Brian Cole
> Lawrenceville NJ> 
> > Anyway, now that VO has their quill stem with 31.8 clamp, I'm considering 
> > the Jones H-bar. I'm thinking of the loop or the bend in 710mm. My biggest 
> > hesitation is that I think they look kind of funny! I hate to write that 
> > out loud, but it's true. The shape and the 31.8 clamp seem like they could 
> > clash on a Riv set up. I thought the Map/Ahearne bars would be a good 
> > solution, but they hand position wouldn't really be wider that the 
> > Albatross. 
> > 
> > Anyone have the Jones loop or bend on their Riv that would be willing to 
> > sharing photos/experiences? Convince me to stop putting fashion over 
> > function? Or maybe you're Jones h-bar/Riv set up is gorgeous AND functional?
> > 
> > Anyone want to convince me the Map/Ahearne bar is the way to go? Would the 
> > angle of the hand position be enough to solve the issue even though they 
> > aren't much wider?
> > 
> > Thanks! 
> > Tim
> > Portland, OR

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Christopher Murray]

I think it’d more likely be Jack O. Lope or Jack O’Lope. Or maybe Lopes or 
Lopez instead of Lope. That fits more with the current naming conventions. 

Chris

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Totally reasonable. I've dropped Grant another line asking. I didn't want
to be a pest, but I suppose asking twice in six months probably isn't all
that bad.

I feel conflicted! I gladly downloaded the PDFs you posted, Jim, as it
nearly completes my collection. Happy to do my part and share mine as long
as I know no feelings will be hurt and no $$ will be lost over at RBW HQ.


Best,
Reed

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:

> Probably a more well thought-out consideration...
>
> I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to comment
> here, that would be good.
>
> There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though since
> I had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.
>
> If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same folder
> for now and host the archive.
>
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Hey Jim,
>>
>> I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, but
>> didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed him
>> to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)
>>
>> I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and
>> useful information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to
>> give... Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the
>>> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).
>>>
>>> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com
>>> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF
>>> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I
>>> stashed these two here -
>>>
>>> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>>>
>>> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>>>
>>> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came
>>> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up
>>> a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how
>>> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was
>>> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person.
>>>
>>> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had
>>> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since
>>> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This
>>> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly
>>> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to
>>> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link
>>> for now -
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCC
>>> iU5JbeAa?dl=0
>>>
>>> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>>>
>>> - Jim
>>>
>>> cyclofi...@gmail.com / cyclofiend.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

[Howard Hatten]

Patrick,
I have a set of power grips I no longer use. PM your mailing info and I’ll send 
them to you. N. C. 

Howard
Livonia  Mi. 

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[RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

[Coal Bee Rye Anne]

Never tried power grips but I’m using HoldFast with spiked VP pedals and I find 
they work very well for my needs with fixed gear riding and easy enough to pull 
my foot out when necessary.  Through two winters of moderate use they are 
frayed and showing signs of wear from occasionally dragging in between mounts 
and dismounts but still holding up well.  I also love how they are easily 
readjusted for thicker shoes with just the upper Velcro strap (I initially 
installed with thicker shoes so the strap just gets tightened more with my 
thinner soles.

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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[jack loudon]

I like 'Meander", or better, the archaic spelling, "Maeander".  The 
headbadge could show the sinuous path of its namesake, the Meander River in 
Turkey.  
Jack

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:59:41 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
>
> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote: 
> > This might be a stretch, but hey, what's the fun in following a guru if 
> you can't spend hours parsing his words and interpreting them?  I think 
> there might be a hint towards an upcoming trail-oriented Riv (or update to 
> an existing Riv) hidden in this passage from Grant's post yesterday:  
> > 
> > In mountain bike racing and just riding, it's gone the other way. The 
> early guys were riding unsuitably low-tech bikes, then bikes reached a 
> basic good level of appropriate technology in the late '80s, and now 
> they've borrowed as much as possible—for now—from cars and motorcycles. 
> There are reactions to it the other way, with one-speed mountain bikes, but 
> those are fading fast because...one gear is too limiting for varied 
> terrain. There's no restraint at that end, and we're going to show 'em all 
> what-for sometime late this year, if we can pull it off. 
> > 
> > 
> > I wonder what it could be...the before-hinted plus-tire Hunqapillar?  
> Bringing back the Bombadil (probably can't be done under the LOTR gag 
> order)?  Some other new trail-oriented rig? 
> > 
> > 
> > Honestly, I'm pretty satisfied with my Jones-barred Clem as my MTB 
> (well...a threadless fork would be nice), so I'm not anxiously awaiting 
> anything, but it would be interesting to see what they come up with.   
> > 
> > 
> > Let the speculation begin!  
>
>
>
> Hmmm  call it the Harold D. Callahan ... aka "Dirty Harry" . 
>
> ☺☺☺Aahahahahahahahaahaahahahah ☺☺☺ 
>
> Go ahead . make my day ..   

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[RBW] DC Workers Ride Info

[Eric Norris]

The 2017 DC Workers Ride is just six days away! I look forward to seeing you 
all at the start at the Veterans Center (https://goo.gl/maps/T4gkeqSFUXR2 
) on 14th Street at 5:15 a.m. next Saturday. 
We’ll gather, discuss any last-minute details, and head out at 5:30 a.m.

With ride day approaching, here are a few items of note:

— We’ll have 20+ riders this year! That’s a record! Word is getting out that 
the Workers Ride is a great alternative to the “actual” DC—less crowded, more 
congenial, and with great support.

— As always, our sag vehicle will carry an assortment of drinks and rest stop 
snacks, including Gatorade and an assortment of soft drinks (as well as water). 
A reminder that your sag driver Bruce Finley is a volunteer, and will be 
working as hard as we are on our bikes. 

— Regarding pace: We will ride at a comfortable, yet brisk, pace, staying 
together as much as possible with regroups at rest stop and other locations. 
Regroup places usually are:

Forbes Home (Rest stop 1)
Top of Monticello Dam
Pope Valley Grange Hall
Middletown High School (Rest stop 4)
Big Canyon (rest stop 5)
LUNCH is in Middletown—most riders opt for McDonalds, but you can pick 
your own place or keep on riding
Top of Resurrection (Rest stop 6)
Guinda fire station (Rest stop 7)
Forbes Home (Rest stop 8)
Plainfield fire station (rest stop 9)

— We generally finish the ride in 15-16 hours. We will stop and regroup at the 
official rest stop locations.

— Weather is looking HOT, with highs around 90 and lows in the mid-50s. Be sure 
to bring enough clothing to keep yourself warm in the early morning and evening 
hours, but be ready for the heat later in the day. Bring and wear sunscreen!

— Given the weather, you should carry at least two bottles of water. If you 
require more fluids, consider a third bottle or a Camelbak—keep in mind that 
the climbs after Clearlake are long and exposed, and will probably be the 
hottest part of the ride. There is no water on this part of the course, so be 
prepared.

— Bring lights and reflective gear. We will start before sunrise, and most of 
us will finish after dark. You will need legal, working lights. Please do not 
show up and rely on others with lights to light the way! This is dangerous. 
Make sure your lights are charged (if you’re using batteries) or that you have 
extra batteries.

— We will follow the official DC route. You can view the route and download a 
GPS track for your bike computer here: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/20709288 
  I’ll have printed copies of the cue 
sheet at the start.

That’s it for now. If you have any questions, email me, or call 530-574-4875

See you in a week!


--Eric Norris
campyonly...@me.com
@CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv-approved Nitto cockpit

[Wesley Applequist]

Do you have any pictures of the setup? Also, are the bars wrapped?

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 12:06:22 AM UTC-5, Neil Doran wrote:
>
> Got a new cockpit on my Sam, and selling the olde one. Would prefer to 
> sell as a unit, but will part out if nobody wants the whole enchilada. 
>
> - Nitto noodle 44 cm 
>
> - Nitto Tallux 80mm, standard Riv issue (long one) 
>
> - TRP drillium levers, *new* gum hoods 
>
> - Silver Shifters, smooth as butter 
>
> Thinking $180 for this setup, let me know if I’m way off base. I’ll split 
> shipping with you, or meet me somewhere east of Sacramento.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Roadini frameset - 61 cm, grilver

[lambbo]

To those interested, I bought the same size and color frame from someone 
else for the same price and MAN am I glad, it's a great bike. 

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 7:49:25 PM UTC-4, Phil A wrote:
>
> 61 cm Roadini frameset in grilver for sale. This frame was unboxed and sat 
> idle indoors since, only the bottom bracket was removed and the cable guide 
> cannibalized for another frame and replaced with a similar Shimano cable 
> guide. The bottom bracket can be reinstalled prior to shipment or shipped 
> loose in the box with the frame. The original 26.8 mm Kalloy seatpost is 
> included.
>
> $650 + shipping
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cycling around Downtown Washington DC...

[René Sterental]

Thanks again for every suggestion and insight, and especially to the super
awesome person who had a bike map delivered/dropped at the hotel for me. I
wish you had signed your name, as I certainly was touched by the gesture.
Regrettably, the work plans got all complicated and I ended up leaving the
bike home. However, I expect to be able to make some room on Monday to rent
a bike and go for a ride.

With all the new guidelines and suggestions plus my brand new map, I’ll
certainly try to ensure I can bring my bike whenever another chance comes
up to come to DC.

You guys all rock!

René


On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:55 PM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> “I’m just a bill. And I’m sittin’ here on Capitol Hill.”. 
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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Agreed. 

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 5:06:05 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:
>
> If they started selling the flash drives again, I would probably buy one. 
>
>>


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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

['Chris Lampe 2' via RBW Owners Bunch]

If they started selling the flash drives again, I would probably buy one.  



On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 6:47:37 PM UTC-5, Cyclofiend Jim wrote:
>
> Probably a more well thought-out consideration... 
>
> I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to comment 
> here, that would be good.  
>
> There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though since 
> I had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.  
>
> If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same folder 
> for now and host the archive. 
>
> On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>>
>> Hey Jim,
>>
>> I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, but 
>> didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed him 
>> to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)
>>
>> I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and 
>> useful information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to 
>> give... Thoughts?
>>
>>
>> Best,
>> Reed
>>
>> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim > > wrote:
>>
>>> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the 
>>> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).  
>>>
>>> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com 
>>> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF 
>>> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I 
>>> stashed these two here - 
>>>
>>> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>>>
>>> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>>>
>>> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came 
>>> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up 
>>> a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how 
>>> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was 
>>> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person. 
>>>
>>> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had 
>>> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since 
>>> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This 
>>> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly 
>>> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to 
>>> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link 
>>> for now - 
>>>
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0
>>>
>>> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>>>
>>> - Jim
>>>
>>> cyclo...@gmail.com  / cyclofiend.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Garth]

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 3:24:19 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
> This might be a stretch, but hey, what's the fun in following a guru if you 
> can't spend hours parsing his words and interpreting them?  I think there 
> might be a hint towards an upcoming trail-oriented Riv (or update to an 
> existing Riv) hidden in this passage from Grant's post yesterday: 
> 
> In mountain bike racing and just riding, it's gone the other way. The early 
> guys were riding unsuitably low-tech bikes, then bikes reached a basic good 
> level of appropriate technology in the late '80s, and now they've borrowed as 
> much as possible—for now—from cars and motorcycles. There are reactions to it 
> the other way, with one-speed mountain bikes, but those are fading fast 
> because...one gear is too limiting for varied terrain. There's no restraint 
> at that end, and we're going to show 'em all what-for sometime late this 
> year, if we can pull it off.
> 
> 
> I wonder what it could be...the before-hinted plus-tire Hunqapillar?  
> Bringing back the Bombadil (probably can't be done under the LOTR gag order)? 
>  Some other new trail-oriented rig?
> 
> 
> Honestly, I'm pretty satisfied with my Jones-barred Clem as my MTB (well...a 
> threadless fork would be nice), so I'm not anxiously awaiting anything, but 
> it would be interesting to see what they come up with.  
> 
> 
> Let the speculation begin!     



Hmmm  call it the Harold D. Callahan ... aka "Dirty Harry" .

☺☺☺Aahahahahahahahaahaahahahah ☺☺☺

Go ahead . make my day ..   

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[RBW] Re: May Snow

[Ron Mc]

answering out of turn  
http://hilltrek.co.uk/clothing/jackets/greenspot-dv-jacket/

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 6:49:25 PM UTC-5, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> Where do you get your Ventile? 
>
> Craig 
>
>
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[RBW] WTB a well used Hunqapillar frame size 58,59,60,61,62

[I like coffee!! !!]

Looking to buy a frame used Hunqapillar frame, if anyone is willing to part 
with one 

Will pay plenty, just been wanting to have one for a few years now, thanks! 

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[RBW] FS Jack Brown Green

[Ned Brennan]

$34 one Used tire, good shape, lots more miles left

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Re: [RBW] Re: Shipping handlebars

[Paul Brodek]

The problem with road bars is there's a lot of air in the boxes they fit,
and not much weight. I shipped a few 48cm Noodles recently, and just used
some boxes I had received other bars in. USPS Priority was maybe $12-$15 to
nearby states, $20 +/- to the West Coast from NJ.

I don't have any empty bar boxes on hand anymore, and figured out that
24x8x8in boxes should be good for wide Noodles. Uline sells a pack of 25
for $1.06 or so each.

Just me, but I wouldn't be comfortable sending bubble-wrapped/bagged bars
unboxed, especially across state lines.

Can't help much with flat bars. I'd guess that mostly-straight flat bars
could go in USPS poster-sized boxes, or round tubes. For upright,
backswept, priest-style bars you'd need something wider, and hope to keep
it as flat as possible to minimize shipping costs.

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Lester Lammers 
wrote:

> FWIW, I just sent some 48cm Noodles and brake levers to a friend. I used
> some bubble wrap and put them in a heavy duty contractor trash bag. I wound
> the excess bag around the bars and taped the 'package'. It worked great. I
> sent them USPS priority mail and it was $6.72 from Naples to Orlando, FL.
>
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[RBW] Re: May Snow

[Craig Montgomery]

Where do you get your Ventile? 

Craig 

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 3:19:12 PM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> In which there’s no chance it won’t. Grin.
> https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/may-snow
>
> With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg?

[Scott Calhoun]

I vote for Jacqueloupe. It is funny, western, mythical (some claim...), and 
a chimera rather than a person. I can already picture the headtube badge. 

Scott Calhoun
Tucson, AZ USA

On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 9:39:08 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Jacquieloupe 
>
> On 5/3/18, James Warren  wrote: 
> > 
> > Speaking of that artist and such bikes... 
> > 
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VR4KaDeAuI=8s 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> >>From: Michael Morrissey  
> >>Sent: May 3, 2018 5:50 PM 
> >>To: RBW Owners Bunch  
> >>Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: MTB hints in yesterday's Blahg? 
> >> 
> >>Sir Barney Johnston just kind of sounds close to Bonnie Prince Billy. 
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[RBW] Re: Pedal Retention Questions

[Ron Mc]

I'm going to step up once more with a recommendation for Blackspire 
pedals.  
On their website, you'll find a $22 (Canadian) rebuild service.  
That entire cost is the return International Priority shipping from Canada 
($16 US), and last time I sent them pedals, had them back in one week.  
They're still running a 2/3-off sale on their long pedals, the Robusto - 
$50 (Canadian).  


https://www.blackspire.com/product/robusto-pedal/

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Probably a more well thought-out consideration... 

I'd ask him again. Though if he catches this thread and wants to comment 
here, that would be good.  

There were those cork (?) flash drives which had the pdf's.  Though since I 
had a stack of the print versions, I never thought to buy one.  

If you get the OK, let me know - be happy to land those in the same folder 
for now and host the archive. 

On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 4:42:22 PM UTC-7, Reed Kennedy wrote:
>
> Hey Jim,
>
> I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, but 
> didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed him 
> to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)
>
> I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and useful 
> information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to give... 
> Thoughts?
>
>
> Best,
> Reed
>
> On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim  
> wrote:
>
>> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the 
>> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).  
>>
>> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com 
>> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF 
>> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I 
>> stashed these two here - 
>>
>> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>>
>> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>>
>> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came 
>> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up 
>> a Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how 
>> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was 
>> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person. 
>>
>> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had 
>> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since 
>> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This 
>> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly 
>> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to 
>> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link 
>> for now - 
>>
>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0
>>
>> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>>
>> - Jim
>>
>> cyclofi...@gmail.com / cyclofiend.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Pedal Retention Questions

[Brian Campbell]

Also I have a set of SR SP-457 pedals you are welcome to. They are a double 
sided pedal that can take Power Grips or Hold Fast straps. They are cup and 
cone and good bit larger than a Sylvan. I can send a comparison pic but can't 
seem to from my phone...

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Re: [RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Reed Kennedy]

Hey Jim,

I have numbers 12 through 35 as PDFs. I’ve been hoping to share them, but
didn’t feel great about doing so without Grant’s permission. I emailed him
to ask a while ago, but never heard back. (No surprise, he’s busy!)

I’m torn. I’d love to help out and make all these great stories and useful
information available, but I’m not really sure they’re mine to give...
Thoughts?


Best,
Reed

On Sat, May 5, 2018 at 4:27 PM Cyclofiend Jim  wrote:

> There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the
> Rivendell Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).
>
> Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com
> archive folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF
> version of the readers available in addition to the print version. And I
> stashed these two here -
>
> RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf
>
> RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf
>
> As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came
> across the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up a
> Reader archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how
> long it had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was
> quality guy who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person.
>
> Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had
> enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since
> returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This
> included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly
> fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to
> copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link
> for now -
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0
>
> I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.
>
> - Jim
>
> cyclofi...@gmail.com / cyclofiend.com
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Pedal Retention Questions

[Brian Campbell]

I have used both. Now, I don't do off road fixed gear riding but.based 
on your goal to keep things simple and knowing the good natured, punishment 
your bike(s) endure, I would say the Hold Fast are a better option.

IME the Power Grips have more parts (to fail and lose) and are also a bit 
more involved to adjust. I stripped the mounting screw on one of the Power 
Grips mounts, trying to get it tight enough. YMMV.

Also given the importance of feedback from your feet for orientaton, know 
that the POwer Grips require a tuen & twist motion to get them to "lock" on 
to your feet. There is a consierable amount of downward pressure applied to 
the top of your feet. Not sure if that might be a complicating issue for 
you or not.

The Hold FAst have a simpler and greater range of adjustability in my 
opinion. To me they felt similar to a traditional toe clip. The only thing 
that was a negative that I recall was sometimes the Hold Fast could sag 
when it was wet. It getting you feet in a little more of a chore but not a 
deal breaker. Hope that helps!


On Saturday, May 5, 2018 at 3:41:17 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Short version: 
> It looks like there are two main players in pedal retention straps that 
> play nice with sandals: Hold Fast or Power Grips. Input and suggestions 
> appreciated. 
>
> Long version: 
> While I love the Catalyst long pedals by Pedaling Innovations, I seem to 
> destroy them (after my snow ride the other day, screaming squeel that is 
> the pedal, bearings, I presume?). The pedals are only a few months old. 
>
> So, I am going as basic as I can in a pedal, following my basic rule of go 
> as simple as possible and learn from there. I put on my smaller VP Vice 
> pedals and wow, I now understand the whole pedal retention thing with fixed 
> hear. With the large spiked platform, unnecessary. But with a forefoot 
> position on a smaller pedal, even with spikes, retention is well worth 
> trying. 
>
> I have MKS Sylvan pedals coming, in the hopes cone bearings can be easily 
> adjusted and serviced as I beat them up. Also a pair of same but Stream 
> narrower pedals to see if that works and increases pedal clearance in a 
> meaningful way for me. 
>
> With abandon, 
> Patrick 
>
> www.CredoFamily.org 
> www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Rivendell Reader PDF Archives

[Cyclofiend Jim]

There was a query yonder on the FB about specific editions of the Rivendell 
Readers. (They were requesting RR#10, RR#41 and RR#42).  

Turns out that the latter two had been uploaded to a Cyclofiend.com archive 
folder.  Toward the end of the Reader run, they would make a PDF version of 
the readers available in addition to the print version. And I stashed these 
two here - 

RR#42 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR42_web.pdf

RR#41 - http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/pdf/RR41_web.pdf

As i was searching to see if there were more of these around, I came across 
the references and a thread to the sethdot.org project to set up a Reader 
archive. I have to say that saddened me a bit, as I realized how long it 
had been since Seth Vidal left us way too soon. Sigh. He was quality guy 
who I am sad to say I never got to meet in person. 

Since my own collection of early Readers had been a bit sporadic (I had 
enjoyed the first ones via copies borrowed from someone else, since 
returned), I had bought the first CD of Readers way back when.  This 
included RR#'s 1 through 11.  (Yes, it went up to 11...) Since surprisingly 
fewer computers these days even can swallow CD's, I thought it prudent to 
copy these to a dropbox folder, which should be accessible via this link 
for now - 

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5f0hbf4i5e5n2dq/II0rxQi1lpzCCiU5JbeAa?dl=0

I'll add to this thread as more items are unearthed.

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot sighting, Arlington Massachusetts

[Lum Gim Fong]

I’ve spotted a Foy, Custom, and an Atlantis before.Atlantis on a repair rack at 
LBS, other two on century rides. All upright except the custom. I also saw a 
dark blue “Rivendell”. But can’t know if custom or early model.

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[RBW] Pedal Retention Questions

[Deacon Patrick]

Short version:
It looks like there are two main players in pedal retention straps that play 
nice with sandals: Hold Fast or Power Grips. Input and suggestions appreciated.

Long version:
While I love the Catalyst long pedals by Pedaling Innovations, I seem to 
destroy them (after my snow ride the other day, screaming squeel that is the 
pedal, bearings, I presume?). The pedals are only a few months old.

So, I am going as basic as I can in a pedal, following my basic rule of go as 
simple as possible and learn from there. I put on my smaller VP Vice pedals and 
wow, I now understand the whole pedal retention thing with fixed hear. With the 
large spiked platform, unnecessary. But with a forefoot position on a smaller 
pedal, even with spikes, retention is well worth trying. 

I have MKS Sylvan pedals coming, in the hopes cone bearings can be easily 
adjusted and serviced as I beat them up. Also a pair of same but Stream 
narrower pedals to see if that works and increases pedal clearance in a 
meaningful way for me.

With abandon,
Patrick

www.CredoFamily.org
www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Re: Your favorite Rivendell?

[ascpgh]

Another reason I love my Rambouillet; it makes people speak to me on the 
road. Once again as I rode this morning someone spoke out to me about my 
creamsicle orange (and 17 years' patina/beausage). I was trying to take a 
nominal urban ride but was stumped by the ancillary events to tomorrow's 
Pittsburgh Marathon, so I demurred to the river trails and headed away from 
the city with one water bottle as my guide.

I stopped to take a picture of the Kennywood roller coaster to text to our 
mentee, in her last class of the semester at the moment, because 
"Kennywood's open" is a longstanding local euphemism for your fly is 
unzipped. A guy rolls by on a Surly 26" disc trucker with Ortliebs, a 
Therm-a-rest and Big Agnes stuff sacks, and says "that's way cool".

After I send my picture and get back to riding, I catch up to the guy in a 
few miles and ask how far he's going. 

"Georgetown" he says. 

"How many days?" I ask.

"Four or five" He says. 

"Camping, B?" I ask.

"Whatever is there when I'm done" He says. 

It was already noon and I knew he was going to be a late arrival to his 
best options, so I said I'd show him through the confusion between 
McKeesport and Boston. 

He was 21 and a two tour Army combat medic reassigned as a med tech in the 
Interventional Radiology department at Walter Reed. He was getting pressure 
to use leave he's accumulated while deployed so he bought a new bike, some 
gear and a one way car to the Southside hostel. It had been such a nice 
morning he slept in beyond his imagination and got a very late start. 

We talked about smart career planning and military stuff as we rode and I 
couldn't help but appreciate how my dumb orange bike opened up a 
conversation and the opportunity to help him through the complex front end 
of his trip. 

Once I had him on the crushed limestone of the GAP in Boston I said 
farewell, good luck and provided a few suggestions for sources of food, 
services and hot meals along his way. I texted my wife to tell her my 
timetable and whereabouts, my water bottle long empty now. I found a 
fountain back in McKeesport and got back to the business of going home. 

I was thoroughly entertained when I caught up to a small woman on a Kuota 
TT bike going my direction on the trail. I didn't drop in on her but rode 
to the flank to avoid any accusation of drafting, ringing my bell when 
upcoming riders were in need of our passing. She acknowledged that with a 
"thanks". Bells aren't de rigeur on CF TT bikes on low spoke count CF 
rimmed wheels. When that got boring I passed her and waved.  

"That's cool" she said as I rode by. 

I think I was around 65 miles when home. I reset to help the through rider 
estimate his arrival at key trail towns. All my interactions were 
non-competitive, no implied testosterone and jovial. I've been riding this 
bike for a long time and it has conditioned me to feel like that's the 
normal, but folks I ride with always mention how weird all the comments are 
when we are out on a loop. That is cool. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 6:30:55 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I've owned 5: 3 custom Roads, 56 (55?) single tt, canti Sam, and blue Ram, 
> later model with room for 32s and fenders and space in between.
>
> I put more miles on the 2003 Curt, just about identical to the '99 Joe 
> gofast in frame geometry, drivetain/saddle/bar components and setup; it 
> just adds all the accoutrements -- fenders, racks f/r, dynolights, bell fer 
> gosh's sakes -- that you'd reasonably want for an "errand" bike, But, (just 
> rode it) I have to say that the stripper gofast is just *more fun* to 
> ride, measured by response in drivetrain to effort in legs. I don't know 
> why this is so, since the '03 has largely the same drivetrain, and wheels 
> -- same tires, Elk Pass -- as the '99. There is probably a 7 lb weight 
> differenceboth bikes unladen ('99 is 18.1 now that it adds second bottle 
> cage and Dingle on flip side); and the '03 is very often laden; but -- I 
> dunno. 
>
> I realize that all of this is very relative to your own type of riding; 
> but for me, if someone held a gun to my head and said: "One bike; choose 
> now!", I'd have to choose the '99 Joe.
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[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

[John Hawrylak]

Dave & Others

Back in around 2000, the mad cow event was going thru England resulting in 
much younger cows coming to market and their hides being thinner (younger = 
thinner hides).  I do remember a reference to someone in Brooks being 
concerned the hide thickness was approaching their minimum values, due to 
the younger cattle.  It may have been the same gentleman Dave communicated 
with.

I bought a red B17 from Wallingford around the time.  Apparently Brooks 
made a run of red B-17s for a Dawes project and there was a large surplus, 
and Bill Lane passed on the discount.   Still have it, but it seems to need 
tensioning more often than one I had from an earlier period, probably due 
to a slightly thinner hide from the 'mad cows'.
   
Funny, Bill is retired, but I still have the saddle.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-4, Rivendell GM Dave wrote:

> I asked Brooks about thicknesses. 
>
> Steven Green, factory manager who has been with Brooks for almost 40 years 
> responded: 
>
>
>
>
>
> *There is absolutely no truth in this at all! We have always specified, to 
> my knowledge, 5.5mm to 6 mm as the target thickness.  We do occasionally 
> receive leather outside of these parameters and we allow a minimum of 4.8 
> mm and a maximum 6.5 mm Unfortunately, cows are such inconsiderate beasts 
> and they won’t come to an agreement with Brooks to always give us exactly 
> 5.5 mm!*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 3:57:14 AM UTC-7, Lester Lammers wrote:
>>
>> Is your B17 rather new? Brooks was bought out and the new owners started 
>> using thinner leather that had issues. There are posts about this on other 
>> forums. I'm not sure if they have changed.
>>
>> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 9:31:43 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>>>
>>> I use a B17, and when I climb or pedal hard (paceline), I tend to move 
>>> back on the B17 and feel the rivets.  What does this indicates
>>>
>>> My bars are at saddle height my knee is about 10mm below the pedal 
>>> spindle.  The saddle height is 9.5 to 10 cm less than PBH.
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto 32F mini front rack

[Raul M]

Greetings y'all,

Anyone have a Nitto front rack they're willing to get rid of?

Thank you.

Raul
Silver City, NM

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[RBW] Re: Balance Bike Delight

[WETH]

Mike,
Put a smile on my face reading about it.

Patrick,
Congrats on the whole family being ready for Clementines!

10 years ago my youngest was struggling to ride a bike.  I wasn’t clued into to 
balance bikes, so I picked up a 2 wheel razor scooter for $5 at a yard sale.  
He learned the principles of balance riding that and then took effortlessly  to 
a two wheel bike.

All the best,
Erl

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[RBW] Re: Balance Bike Delight

[Wayne Naha]

We started our girls on a balance bike as well.  I took a small child's 
bike, removed the "training wheels," pedals, and the crank and chain.  They 
loved it.  They would wiz about the yard.  One possible drawback was that 
after removing the crank, the bike had no brakes, since it was only 
equipped with a coaster brake.  So when they grew into a pedal bike, they 
still tended to stop with the toes of their shoes.  It still worked out, 
and I was glad they were spared the unnecessary scrapes, bruises, and (in 
my case) a chipped tooth in learning to ride the 'traditional' way.  Also, 
they had a blast riding around on the balance bike, which was just about 
the best outdoor toy they had.

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Re: [RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, I've found in the past that blue Loctite on the cradle stops the
slipping; I used it successfully twice, once on the cradle of a Ritchey
seatpost with considerable setback, and once on the slightly undersized
shaft of a Syncros titanium post that slipped down the seat tube at the
rate of about 1/2" per mile on one of my Rivs.

I'll be interested to hear from other owners of Rivendell "cruisers" how
they do on more technical trails, appropriately built. I don't mean the
really steep, rocky/rooty stuff for which a real mountain bike is needed,
but nice winding and hilly paths like those in Paul's photos. It seems that
some of these bikes would be ideal for such riding, minus the very wide,
sweepback bars.

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:20 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

> Thanks for the tip. Torque-ing didn't work. I have a couple 2 bolt posts,
> but they aren't the right diameter. I'll see what I can come up with. I
> kinda like the look of the Thomson angled posts. I might even try one in
> black if I can find it for the right price. The S65 doesn't even have any
> knurling to keep it from tipping back. Seems like it should.
>
> It's fun rediscovering mountain biking around here. Finally having a bike
> that can handle it with just a tire swap will make that easier to do.
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> Congrats on the bike!  Glad you're giving it a chance to show its "burly"
>> side.
>>
>> You can try torque-ing down the saddle clamp bolt to prevent it from
>> shifting.
>>
>> But, any two-bolt seatpost will clamp more securely than the Nitto S65
>> Crystal Fellow (or clone) you're using.
>> The Nitto S83 or lugged S84 are the Riv-supplied solutions.  I also see
>> two-bolt posts in silver from Ritchey, Deda, and others.
>> I like the clamp head on Thomson posts, but they only come in straight
>> (not enough setback with a Brooks) or angled (proper setback, weird
>> looks).  Soma's Zero post has the same problem (lack of setback).
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 3:37 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:
>>>
>>>
 Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting
 back when I bounce around on it?

 Paul in ATL

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[RBW] Re: Bleriot sighting, Arlington Massachusetts

[RichS]

Happened across a Bleriot only once. Saw my first Rambouillet recently. An 
orange one at that! Stunning color; nicely built up and well cared for.

Seeing any Rivendell in the wild is always a happy occasion.

Best,
Richard

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Re: [RBW] MTBubbe Update

[Patrick Moore]

Paul: Interesting writeup. I'll be interested to hear how the modifications
to the bike affect performance on technical trails, and to see photos of
the bike in new kit.

Good mtb trails, with some technicality, within a mile from home -- lucky
you. I've not visited Atlanta for 30 years, but my father's family comes
from there, and my sister still lives there (Doraville area). I'd like to
go back one day.

I have nice trails (well, if you and your bike can handle fine sand) near
my house, too, but no hills, alas.

On Thu, May 3, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Paul Clifton  wrote:

> A lot happened over the last 8 months or so, so I've been pretty content
> riding my MTBubbe when I got the chance, rather than working on it, so
> until last week, the bars were way to high and close.
>
> But a couple weeks ago, I found out that the local MTB group,
> www.sorbaatlanta.org, was just about done building a few miles of single
> track in a park less than a mile from my house. So I had to go check it
> out. Here's how the bike looked the first time I went:
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Bars too high and too close, 1.8" semi-slick Gravel Kings. It turns out
> the trail is an awesome mix of flow, with bumps and berms and jumps and
> stuff, with some technical climbing, and some fast straight downhill. This
> photo is probably the flattest part of the trail. I definitely lost
> traction in some spots, especially on climbs. The bike still felt great,
> but it was really time to swap the stem, at least.
>
> I also borrowed an old 2.35" wide tire from a friend of mine to do a test
> fit, and ended up with a mullet bike:
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Business in the front. Party in the back! I did a couple laps in my
> backyard to test out the tire, and decided I should go ahead and try out
> the MTBubbe as a mountain bike. So I got a pair of Neo Motos and headed to
> the trail last night.
> [image: image.jpeg]
>
> Holy cow. I'm beat today. The trail is basically along either side of a
> drainage wash that goes into a fairly big creek (a tributary of Camp Creek
> for you Civil War buffs), so there is not a single flat spot. There is an
> inner loop and an outer loop. I did both loops twice. So maybe 5 or 6
> miles. I'll take some pictures of the trail next time I go, but I was
> having too much fun riding and just grabbed a quick photo at the end of the
> ride.
>
> The tires are a huge improvement! So is the stem. I've learned a lot
> already, riding these trails.
>
> 1. The Albatross bars are comfy on the trail and give plenty of control,
> but they're a little impractical. They bump my knees in tight turns. I've
> got a Jitensha bar and some rapid fire shifters that I'm going to try out
> when I get a 26.0 clamp stem. I'm really hoping to try out that new curvy
> bar that's been rumored around here.
>
> 2. Use the front brake, man. I usually use both brakes together, but on
> the dirt, the back tire skids so easily that it's better to just not use it
> most of the time. I headed into a steep downhill section a little too fast,
> and had to almost lock down the front wheel to get through it. If I'd
> locked up the back wheel, I would've been in trouble. These Avid v-brakes
> are amazing though! They always seem to have a little more power to give.
> Front braking also makes bermed corners more fun and flowy.
>
> 3. Nobbies make a difference on dirt, at least for me. I read a good bit
> about tread before buying these tires. I'm not sure I came to any
> conclusions. The Neo Motos seemed good, and as seems to be the case with
> Panaracer, they were a good price too. I can definitely clear a couple
> spots that I couldn't on the semi-slick Gravel Kings, but the ride to the
> trail isn't as smooth.
>
> 4. MTB riders know what they're doing with high bottom brackets, single
> tiny front chainrings, and short crank arms. There are places that my big
> ring and bottom bracket just won't clear on these trails. I'll have to
> figure out a line to take that doesn't bottom out my bike.
>
> So the MTBubbe fits 2.3" Neo Motos on Atlas rims, and it really is an
> insanely versatile and fun bike. I can't wait to ride some more trails!
> This opens up a whole new chunk of the city to ramble around.
>
>
> 
>
> Any suggestions for a seat post that will keep my saddle from tilting back
> when I bounce around on it?
>
> Paul in ATL
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Re: [RBW] Your favorite Rivendell?

[R Shannon]

Didn’t mean to hijack this thread but thank you Lum and Bruce for the feedback.

All my Rivs are my favorites!

Best,
Richard

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 4, 2018, at 11:48 PM, Lum Gim Fong  wrote:
> 
> 26cm bb with 170mm cranks and you are good to go from my ecperience with 
> Rambouillet 650b conversion. Took 650x42 at 45psi to get bb that high.
> 
> A 650b 53 Bleriot is 26cm bb to grnd too with 38mm tires at 45psi.
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[RBW] Re: Feeling the Rivets

[Lester Lammers]

I stand corrected. I won't believe everything I read on the internet.

On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 12:01:27 PM UTC-4, Rivendell GM Dave wrote:
>
> I asked Brooks about thicknesses. 
>
> Steven Green, factory manager who has been with Brooks for almost 40 years 
> responded: 
>
>
>
>
>
> *There is absolutely no truth in this at all! We have always specified, to 
> my knowledge, 5.5mm to 6 mm as the target thickness.  We do occasionally 
> receive leather outside of these parameters and we allow a minimum of 4.8 
> mm and a maximum 6.5 mm Unfortunately, cows are such inconsiderate beasts 
> and they won’t come to an agreement with Brooks to always give us exactly 
> 5.5 mm!*
>
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 3:57:14 AM UTC-7, Lester Lammers wrote:
>>
>> Is your B17 rather new? Brooks was bought out and the new owners started 
>> using thinner leather that had issues. There are posts about this on other 
>> forums. I'm not sure if they have changed.
>>
>> On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 9:31:43 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>>>
>>> I use a B17, and when I climb or pedal hard (paceline), I tend to move 
>>> back on the B17 and feel the rivets.  What does this indicates
>>>
>>> My bars are at saddle height my knee is about 10mm below the pedal 
>>> spindle.  The saddle height is 9.5 to 10 cm less than PBH.
>>>
>>> John Hawrylak
>>> Woodstown NJ
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] OT but mentioned on the Blahg: Hiking

[ascpgh]

Joe, You can start doing one exercise to make your "nature walks" more 
enjoyable by the end when you are tired which is exercising your vastus 
medialis (that lump just above the kneecap on the along inside of your 
thigh. 

I had a rough recovery from a leg surgery and its atrophy of disuse did not 
respond 
to cycling, which did get me up on my feet, just not with the stability to 
feel confident on paths and trails. Once I was tipped to the muscle's 
function in providing the final stabilization of the knee joint in 
extension and any degree of flexion during effort. Underused in cycling 
since the movement is so isolated from much necessity of lateral stability, 
you'll find benefit from 5-10 minutes of effort to improve the condition of 
yours over a couple weeks' of commitment. 

What I did was lie flat on the ground, tighten one leg's muscles to lock it 
in a straight stiff posture, toe pulled toward your chin. Lift your rigid 
leg five inches and hold for a few seconds. Lower it, relax, repeat. Do the 
same for both legs building both the duration and reps. Add shoes for more 
resistance, heavier shoes for incrementally more. Ankle weights if you're 
going for the Mr. Olympia look.

Your knees will feel better after your walks by having maintained their 
alignment better during the trip instead of tiring and allowing the play 
and the subsequent pain associated with it. Those muscles appreciate the 
exercise after surprisingly little regular exercise. 

Interestingly, the gear junkie who just pops in to REI and buys a pair of 
Asolo 520 backpacking boots as their preparation for such walks will find 
themselves aching and in persistent discomfort afterward because the weight 
of those clodhoppers accentuates the poor condition of their vastus 
medialis, combining to produce some increased displacement and inaccuracy 
of their knees' movements. Any footwear more constructed than what you walk 
in on a daily basis will require some conditioning in preparation both by 
exercise and incremental distance and terrain acclimation to prevent being 
the source of discomfort from your activity. Yeah, running shoes are easier.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh


 

 

On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 5:35:13 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> What's funny after all this input - which I appreciate - is it looks like 
> I'm already using my walking/hiking gear on my bike. Well ok then!

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[RBW] Re: MTBubbe Update

[George Rosselle]

With practice you will learn to weight the back wheel for traction. In my 
experience I would rather have more traction in the front than the rear, 
because when I wash out the front it in a corner it increases the chance of 
a crash rather than if the back wheel slides a bit. Which is easier to 
correct for me.

Regarding going tubeless with the Atlas rim, maybe try a few more layers of 
tape in the well of the rim. That helped me when I was struggling with 
getting a tire to seat on another rim, which was not an Atlas but the 
principle is the same.



On Friday, May 4, 2018 at 7:53:58 PM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>
> I'm a little sketched out trying to run tubeless on the Atlas rim. Should 
> I be? Maybe I'll try it. Is the advantage of a narrower tire in back just 
> rolling resistance? I really need traction going up the short steep rocky 
> uphills, and I've never been interested in going as fast as possible or 
> expending as little energy as possible. So I settled on fat and soft. But 
> I'm open to trying different combos and seeing if it makes any difference.
>
> The trails are in Sykes Park in East Point. Official opening is in early 
> June, I think. The park has one road that is a loop, and there are trails 
> visible from the road on either side. Trail access is from various parking 
> areas along the road. This is the only map I've found: 
> http://sorbaatlanta.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/RideFly-BikeParkTrails-Proposal-V1-4-1.jpg
>
>
> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 5:10:39 PM UTC-4, George Rosselle wrote:
>>
>> I have boscomoose bars on my old Fat Chance that I keep in FL, and I find 
>> them good for road rides and doubletrack, but not so good for singletrack, 
>> particularly when it is a tight twisty trail, like many around Atlanta. You 
>> will be happier with something that does not come back as far, maybe a bit 
>> more straight. And you will find the 2.35 tire will be better on the front, 
>> it will give you a bit of cush. Get a 2.1 for the back, Notubes was blowing 
>> out their 2.1 for $20, if you can set it up tubless you will be happy on 
>> the trail and the street. A little slip on the back on a trail is not bad, 
>> and tubeless will give you more cush and better traction if you run it with 
>> lower psi.
>>
>> Where do you access the new trail? I also live in the Atlanta area, and 
>> enjoy trying new trails. I am out on the east side, near Harbins and 
>> Tribble Mill and Fort Yargo trails.
>>
>> On Thursday, May 3, 2018 at 4:26:48 PM UTC-4, Paul Clifton wrote:
>>>
>>> A lot happened over the last 8 months or so, so I've been pretty content 
>>> riding my MTBubbe when I got the chance, rather than working on it, so 
>>> until last week, the bars were way to high and close.
>>>
>>> But a couple weeks ago, I found out that the local MTB group, 
>>> www.sorbaatlanta.org, was just about done building a few miles of 
>>> single track in a park less than a mile from my house. So I had to go check 
>>> it out. Here's how the bike looked the first time I went:
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Bars too high and too close, 1.8" semi-slick Gravel Kings. It turns out 
>>> the trail is an awesome mix of flow, with bumps and berms and jumps and 
>>> stuff, with some technical climbing, and some fast straight downhill. This 
>>> photo is probably the flattest part of the trail. I definitely lost 
>>> traction in some spots, especially on climbs. The bike still felt great, 
>>> but it was really time to swap the stem, at least.
>>>
>>> I also borrowed an old 2.35" wide tire from a friend of mine to do a 
>>> test fit, and ended up with a mullet bike:
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Business in the front. Party in the back! I did a couple laps in my 
>>> backyard to test out the tire, and decided I should go ahead and try out 
>>> the MTBubbe as a mountain bike. So I got a pair of Neo Motos and headed to 
>>> the trail last night.
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>> Holy cow. I'm beat today. The trail is basically along either side of a 
>>> drainage wash that goes into a fairly big creek (a tributary of Camp Creek 
>>> for you Civil War buffs), so there is not a single flat spot. There is an 
>>> inner loop and an outer loop. I did both loops twice. So maybe 5 or 6 
>>> miles. I'll take some pictures of the trail next time I go, but I was 
>>> having too much fun riding and just grabbed a quick photo at the end of the 
>>> ride.
>>>
>>> The tires are a huge improvement! So is the stem. I've learned a lot 
>>> already, riding these trails.
>>>
>>> 1. The Albatross bars are comfy on the trail and give plenty of control, 
>>> but they're a little impractical. They bump my knees in tight turns. I've 
>>> got a Jitensha bar and some rapid fire shifters that I'm going to try out 
>>> when I get a 26.0 clamp stem. I'm really hoping to try out that new curvy 
>>> bar that's been rumored around here.
>>>
>>> 2. Use the front brake, man. I usually use both brakes together, but on 
>>> the dirt, the 

[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Nitto handlebars (Bosco, Albastache, M151), Sugino, VO Rack, Derailleurs, Brifters

[Ryan Thompson]

Sorry these items sold long ago. 

Ryan
Arlington, VA

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