[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Brooks, Albatross, Technomic, Patagonia, Zefal, Sunrace, Jandd,

[Drw]

Oh and the free stuff I’ll just throw in with any purchase at this point. 

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Brooks, Albatross, Technomic, Patagonia, Zefal, Sunrace, Jandd,

[Drw]

Here is what’s left 

Topeak Mini morph- never used. i think it has all the mounting stuff too. 25$ 
shipped

Shimano Mtn brake levers- silver, short pull. like riv sells. good shape with a 
couple scratches. 18$ shipped

Sunrace Thumbies- The cheapo ones riv used to sell. Free with purchase over 30$
 
700c x 40mm ish tubes- 2 of them. new. cant verify that size 100%, but i'm 
pretty sure. Free with purchase over 30$

twofish pump holder- free with purchase over 30$

Jetboil  flash- new/never used. Some dust from sitting. Comes with everything 
you see. I never learned how to use these little propane things. 65$ shipped 
 
Jandd mini mountain panniers- really love these, but they see very little use. 
Great small-medium size with expanding capabilities and decent looks. Great 
condition. Specs here-https://www.jandd.com/detail.asp?PRODUCT_ID=FMMP 
80$ shipped

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[RBW] Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

[Zach Duval]

I've got a pair on my Crust Romanceur that's set up as a trail and dirt tourer. 
I use them mostly on singletrack but have had them out on an overnighter 
covering about 120 miles in two days. 

I really like them, and they hold up surprisingly well on long rides for me. I 
have bars about an inch above the saddle and Brooks Ergon grips.

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[RBW] Re: What Size Nord Lock washer for Silver Bar Ends?

[Lum Gim Fong]

I use beeswax on Silver bar end bolt threads and they rarely loosen. Maybe once 
a quarter I snug them just for fun.
Maybe blue loctite on the threads would hold yours in place?

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[RBW] Re: FS Acorn bags

[Bill in Roswell GA]

I'm a big Acorn fan, having owned several different models. The quality is 
a known factor, but color is another thing entirely. The right buyer will 
come along in time.

I've switched from black Acorn bags to the Ranger Tan bags, IMOH look 
better with the metallic orange on my Riv Ram.

Cheers,
Bill in Roswell, GA

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 8:48:07 PM UTC-4, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> Lots of lookers but no takers.  I've decided to just keep the Saddlebag.  
> I'd sell the Handlebar Bag for $48.00 shipped CONUS.
>
> Steve 
>
> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 7:17:33 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>>
>> Final price bump:  $160.00 for the pair, shipped in CONUS.  Individual 
>> bag prices remain as above.  Also, in my "better" photos, the bags look 
>> sort of gray but they are both identical olive in color.  
>>
>> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 10:15:12 AM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Better photos.  I hope this helps. See above for prices.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 5:02:48 AM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:


 


 
 Hello folks.  Continuing to sort out redundancy in my bike bags and 
 have decided to offer for sale my Acorn saddlebag size large and  Acorn 
 handlebar bag.  They are both olive color.  I purchased both bags new and 
 have stored them indoors since obtaining them.  They are both in excellent 
 lightly used condition.  The stitching, rivets, straps, and material are 
 undamaged.  I'd like to sell them together as a set for $190.00 shipped 
 CONUS.  Please send my private message if you have any questions.  Please 
 pardon my blurry cell phone photos.  The color of canvas in both bags in 
 identical.

>>>

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[RBW] FS: Clem H mustard 52

[Joe Bernard]

Pashley is also like if Brompton made a light traditional road bike and didn't 
tell anybody. The company is known for big black 'Raleigh 3-speed-style' bikes 
with drum brakes that weigh as much as my ebike, so this one slips right under 
the radar. 

I think I'm going to put the double road drivetrain back on and try to sell it 
with that more traditional set up. I think my 3-speed arrangement just confuses 
people. 

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[RBW] FS: Clem H mustard 52

[Joe Bernard]

I DON'T KNOW, DAVE! I think it's just not a known thing here. Pashley is like 
if Brompton happened but Americans completely ignored it. 

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[RBW] FS: Clem H mustard 52

[Dave Grossman]

How have you not sold the Pashley yet.  What a bargain.

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle turning into a banana

[Lum Gim Fong]

I think that is cool that you got every penny out of that saddle.
Still looks nice and you have the rare experience of riding a Brooks saddle 
for so long to test its limits.
Like those rivets. They are like crooked teeth. But plenty of character on 
that saddle and it is all your riding. So very special.

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

[Joe Bernard]

What is, IS!

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Yeah, I didn't have a clue what you were talking about either!;^)

I like the vintage bullmeeses I've had. I still have one for some future 
project--maybe if I get that Crust cargo fork before it sells out again.

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>
> Kai, you channeled Garth perfectly! Before I got to the part where you 
> mentioned him, I had to look at your heading again to make sure you weren't 
> him :-) 


 

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[RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

[Lum Gim Fong]

There was a 53 (my size) for sale here last year but I passed. Price was great, 
too.
It was still bumped at last OP post and not reported sold but by now must be. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Ahearne+MAP Handlebar, 610mm, Silver

[sameness]

Gentle bump. Anyone looking to own one less handlebar?

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: convert A. Homer Hilsen 700c to 650b

[Leslie]

I converted my 60 Ram to 650b so I could fender over 42's, using Tektro 
559's to do it;  I understand why you're wanting to do what you're 
wanting.  But Hilsens are built for that bigger clearance w/ those 
calipers, those calipers won't pull the conversion off on that frame.   

I'm a 12 (and will probably slide into 13's before long as my feet widen), 
I get the TCO issue:   but I finally kept listening to G on this: it's not 
really a big issue.   Yeah, in slow speed turns, I've run my toe down the 
tire, but, it's never caused me to go over, and as soon as you get just a 
little bit of speed, you're not turning your tire far enough for your toe 
to catch it anymore.   

Here's my suggestion:  switch to a centerpull to maximize the room, put the 
fenders all the way up, and see if you can get something like MSO's on 
there.   I run MSOs on my canti-Rom, I don't think I need anything bigger 
of a roadish persuasion. If MSOs won't fit, (they're 700c-40) [they might 
even fit w/ your current calipers, but, maybe the centerpulls would help w/ 
fenders],  find some cushy 38's, see how they do.If you're still not 
happy...  then keep your eye out for an appropriately-sized Saluki.   

Good luck,

-L
 


On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 7:02:53 PM UTC-4, Mark Schneider wrote:
>
> I'd like to put 650b wheels on my 61 A. H.H. Wondering if anyone has tried 
> this and what brakes would work. Pretty sure the Tecktro 559 don't have the 
> reach. Why would I do this? Mainly room between fender and tire with 42MM 
> wide tires and toe overlap, my size 12 feet always het my front wheel.
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

[Leslie]

I'm going to concur w/ Joe here...the Roadini is as close to a MIT 
Roadeo as you'll ever see.RBW has been moving towards the sloping top 
tube for fitment.

If you want a 'classic' level top tube, I'm gonna say, hunt down a 
Roadeo...   they turn up here every so often...

-L

 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 6:59:36 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> It will not be MIT. No one has ever even hinted at this. Even once. 

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[RBW] convert A. Homer Hilsen 700c to 650b

[Bill Eberle in Columbus, Ohio]

A 700 to 650b conversion of a Hilsen is called a Saluki, a truly wonderful bike.

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[RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

[Kainalu V.]

Yup, the dream of being 6'2"...
But that's why the overly tall love Rivendell so, because they care. Maybe not 
enough to make our dreamy fat tyred planing machines, but at least bikes that 
fit. That said, where'd the 65 roadinis go! All presold to collectors no doubt.
-Kai
BKNY

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[RBW] FS: XTR, XT, Nitto, Sugino, vintage MTB goodness

[ant ritchey]

Trying to clear out the last of the bits (for now), as I'm about to plunk 
the funds down for a BMC Road+ (!!!) and all the subsequent not-so-Bobish 
parts I don't have lying around here already. More cool stuff for your 
perusal:

Nitto big front rack, THIS ONE 
. Very 
good condition. W/ P clamps for frok blade attachment. $160
Suntour thumbshifters. Friction/7spd index. Good condition. $15
Spoecialized-branded Nitto dirt drop stem. 26.0 clamp. $20
Nitto Noodle drop bar, 48cm. New/never mounted. $55
Sugino AT triple crank arms, 170mm. Good condition. $20
XTR M952 long cage rear derailleur, good shape. $50
Deerhead shift group: SL-M700 thumbshifters, buttery smooth ratchet 
friction, RD-M700 rear derailleur, recently over-hauled, FD-M700 front 
derailleur.
Super clean and in excellent condition. 
$50
Deerhead FD-700 front derailleur. Got an extra one of these lying around, 
maybe you want/need it? Excellent condition. $8
Microshift front derailleur, 31.8 clamp. Excellent condition. $8
4 left-hand thumbshifters, all friction, all in great shape: 2 X SL-M700 
Deerhead, 1 Suntour 80's vintage, 1 Suntour XC Expert (missing plastic  
cover). $10/each
Sugino 44t chainring, <10 miles. Excellent condition. $15
Deore XT FD-M737 front derailleur, 34.9 clamp, bottom pull, excellent 
condition. $15
2 X Deore XT RD-M737 rear derailleurs, 8spd SIS. Some scuffs and scratches 
but in good condition. $30 each
Deore RD-M591 rear derailleur, 9spd SIS, very good condition/light use. $20

PICS OF PARTS IN THEE GOOGLE DRIVE 


Questions, curiosities, interest in owning? PM or text please 7247579358. 
Prices don't include shipping. Trade interested limited to 650bx48-50ish 
tires in good shape, 175mm compact double.
Prices do not include shipping. Paypal/Venmo preferred, thanks. Cross 
posting to the sister lists.

Ant Ritchey // PDX OR

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[RBW] Re: FS Acorn bags

[Steve Butcher]

Lots of lookers but no takers.  I've decided to just keep the Saddlebag.  
I'd sell the Handlebar Bag for $48.00 shipped CONUS.

Steve 

On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 7:17:33 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> Final price bump:  $160.00 for the pair, shipped in CONUS.  Individual bag 
> prices remain as above.  Also, in my "better" photos, the bags look sort of 
> gray but they are both identical olive in color.  
>
> On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 10:15:12 AM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> Better photos.  I hope this helps. See above for prices.
>>
>> On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 5:02:48 AM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hello folks.  Continuing to sort out redundancy in my bike bags and have 
>>> decided to offer for sale my Acorn saddlebag size large and  Acorn 
>>> handlebar bag.  They are both olive color.  I purchased both bags new and 
>>> have stored them indoors since obtaining them.  They are both in excellent 
>>> lightly used condition.  The stitching, rivets, straps, and material are 
>>> undamaged.  I'd like to sell them together as a set for $190.00 shipped 
>>> CONUS.  Please send my private message if you have any questions.  Please 
>>> pardon my blurry cell phone photos.  The color of canvas in both bags in 
>>> identical.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: convert A. Homer Hilsen 700c to 650b

[Brian Campbell]

Check the bottom bracket height. Prettu sure the AHH is too low when 
converted to 650b. Maybe go the other way to get some room and put 23mm on 
it? ;-)

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 7:02:53 PM UTC-4, Mark Schneider wrote:
>
> I'd like to put 650b wheels on my 61 A. H.H. Wondering if anyone has tried 
> this and what brakes would work. Pretty sure the Tecktro 559 don't have the 
> reach. Why would I do this? Mainly room between fender and tire with 42MM 
> wide tires and toe overlap, my size 12 feet always het my front wheel.
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: convert A. Homer Hilsen 700c to 650b

[Jeremy Till]

Homers are already specc'ed with the longest caliper brakes used on roadish 
bikes (55-76mm reach), the brakes that most people use for 650b conversions 
on 700c bikes with shorter reach brakes.  Bikes that need more clearance 
than a 55-76mm brake can offer generally use cantilevers or disc brakes.  
There are a couple of BMX brake calipers out there that have even longer 
reach but frankly I wouldn't recommend it. They are heavy, super flexy and 
the performance is poor: 

https://www.amazon.com/Tektro-984-Sidepull-Brake-Black/dp/B001CK0F2K 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:02:53 PM UTC-7, Mark Schneider wrote:
>
> I'd like to put 650b wheels on my 61 A. H.H. Wondering if anyone has tried 
> this and what brakes would work. Pretty sure the Tecktro 559 don't have the 
> reach. Why would I do this? Mainly room between fender and tire with 42MM 
> wide tires and toe overlap, my size 12 feet always het my front wheel.
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: What Size Nord Lock washer for Silver Bar Ends?

[Ron Mc]

M6, smaller diameter (from Fastenall inventory).  Nordlocks are a pair of 
washers, smooth on one side and serrated on the other.  Split the pair, I 
would clean the adhesive with alcohol, put the smooth side toward your 
plastic, and the serrated side beneath the screw head.  I've never done it, 
but used them many other places, and they work.  

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 6:01:46 PM UTC-5, Steven Seelig wrote:
>
> I know this is a more mundane topic than the discussion I just read on 
> Paul Racers vs.Tecktros on the Hillborne - I have the Tecktros but have 
> Paul's on 2 other bikes.  I cannot seem to find info on the size Nord-Lock 
> washers to fit between the thumb screw and the plastic thingee on the 
> Silver Bar ends.  My shifter tends to loosen after 50 miles or so and I'd 
> like that not to happen.  First world problems, yes.
>
> Anyone know and do I really need them?  The Riv literature is coy and say 
> maybe you do and maybe you don't.
>

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[RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

[Kieran J]

I pine daily for an OS 7/4/7 phattie-tire road bike in 67cm. It would look 
approximately like a Roadeo. 
Perhaps one day my dream will come true.

KJ


On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 3:41:45 PM UTC-7, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> Oops... correction:
> Roadeo tubing is even lighter than I thought, at least when it first came 
> out. Wonder what it will be if MIT?
> From an article when the MUSA version first came out:
>
> "Mix of Reynolds 725 and TrueTemp OX Plat. As thin as I/Grant could stand 
> to go. (0.65 butts in the tt and dt, with 0.45 bellies)"
>
>
>

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[RBW] New to me Homer, first build

[Joe Bernard]

That is a lovely bicycle, my friend. I dig road-ish Rivs with dt shifters. Nice!

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[RBW] FS: 2 vintage Trek mountain framesets

[ant ritchey]

Hi there,

Moving these for a friend. 2 similar sized Trek mtb f/f/hs sets. One from 
'83, one from '93.
Links to my CL posts here:
'93 950 

'83 850 


Cross-posted to iBob, just wanna find a good home for these cool bits.

Best,
Ant Ritchey // PDX OR

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[RBW] What Size Nord Lock washer for Silver Bar Ends?

[Joe Bernard]

Nord-Lock washers? I'm not aware of any washers that go between the screw and 
the plastic. If your plastic thingys are wore out you can buy new ones from 
Riv, they're a little stouter than pre-2010 thingys. 

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[RBW] convert A. Homer Hilsen 700c to 650b

[Mark Schneider]

I'd like to put 650b wheels on my 61 A. H.H. Wondering if anyone has tried 
this and what brakes would work. Pretty sure the Tecktro 559 don't have the 
reach. Why would I do this? Mainly room between fender and tire with 42MM 
wide tires and toe overlap, my size 12 feet always het my front wheel.
Thanks

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[RBW] New to me Homer, first build

[JonG]

A few months ago I bought Rich from Rivendell's Homer, hoping to build it 
up with some vintage parts as a prelude toward maybe doing L'Eroica this 
year.  After a billon false starts, issues, and frustrations, I finally 
finished.

-Vintage campy Nuovo Record rear derailleur with Soma extra long cage
-Albastache bars and dirt drop stem
-Vintage campy downtube shifters, which are horrendous
-IRD cranks
-Velo Orange wheels
-Diacompe brakes
-Compass tires

Pics here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/qAB8nqaHk6vr1VU59

It rides so well, I can't believe how comfortable and snappy it is with so 
little adjustment.  I'm definitely a Riv convert.  


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[RBW] What Size Nord Lock washer for Silver Bar Ends?

[Steven Seelig]

I know this is a more mundane topic than the discussion I just read on Paul 
Racers vs.Tecktros on the Hillborne - I have the Tecktros but have Paul's 
on 2 other bikes.  I cannot seem to find info on the size Nord-Lock washers 
to fit between the thumb screw and the plastic thingee on the Silver Bar 
ends.  My shifter tends to loosen after 50 miles or so and I'd like that 
not to happen.  First world problems, yes.

Anyone know and do I really need them?  The Riv literature is coy and say 
maybe you do and maybe you don't.

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[RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

[Joe Bernard]

It will not be MIT. No one has ever even hinted at this. Even once. 

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle turning into a banana

[Ian A]

Ron makes and fair point and the saddle certainly looks sorry for itself in 
the photos, but for my 15 mile round trip commute and the odd 60 mile 
weekend ride, it does well enough and is as comfortable as an old boot. For 
longer rides I have other bikes with newer lower mileage Brooks. I probably 
won't retire the old Brooks until the leather rips clear of the rivets.
It's not pretty, but works well - a bit like its owner.

IanA

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 5:27:18 AM UTC-6, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> I would consider that saddle ready to replace.  
>
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:53:47 AM UTC-5, Ian A wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lum
>>
>> So far the rivets are holding up fine. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: MIT Roadeo coming?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Oops... correction:
Roadeo tubing is even lighter than I thought, at least when it first came 
out. Wonder what it will be if MIT?
>From an article when the MUSA version first came out:

"Mix of Reynolds 725 and TrueTemp OX Plat. As thin as I/Grant could stand 
to go. (0.65 butts in the tt and dt, with 0.45 bellies)"


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[RBW] Re: Will a microshift R10 short cage derailer wrap a 2 x 32-11 setup?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Thanks, you guys.
I will have to think about what to do. Sounds like short or mid will work. 
Short with limitations.

But I usually only dump to the small front ring when I need to get up steep 
hills I can't get up on middle ring with the 40 x 32.
Usually don't go into small chainring otherwise. Full dump to my lowest 
gear when I do. Then back to the big ring at the top.

But, might be disatrous if I forget and go cross-chaining off the small 
chainring with a shortie RD. So have to think about that.
Maybe mid-cage would be best.

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[RBW] Re: Lightning bugs taste sweet. Who knew?

[Corwin]

I worked with a guy that went through survival training in Alaska during 
his time in the Air Force. He claimed the big black ants tasted like lemon 
drops.

CZ

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 8:05:31 AM UTC-7, LeRoy wrote:
>
> I took a little ride last night as a shake down after a few adjustments to 
> the Clem seat and bars. We've had quite a prolific season for lightning 
> bugs and I was riding at prime time. After being pelted with their little 
> carcasses in various spots, one little bugger flew straight into my mouth. 
> As I reflexively spat, I noticed a distinctly sweet taste. Not so sweet 
> that I felt a great need to increase the sample size, but surprisingly 
> sweet nonetheless. Compared to a traumatic experience with a June bug at an 
> earlier stage in my life, this experience was less revolting and oddly 
> interesting. This occasions a couple questions:
>1) Who knew that a lightning bug would be so sweet?
>2) Are there other tasty flying objects to be recommended?
>
>
> LeRoy (I think there's still something between my teeth)
>

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[RBW] Re: Meet my new friend Doris

[RichS]

Bruce,

Doris is a beauty; kissin' cousin to your Riv Road! The stem/adapter setup 
is for road testing?

Regards,
Richard

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 1:44:54 PM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
>
> better?
>
>www.flickr.com/photos/9535930@N07/43050780144
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[RBW] Re: Paris Bicycle Shops

[bo richardson]

be careful on the wayto the singer shop
there are two streets named for victor hugo in paris and they are far apart

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

[Chris Birkenmaier]

Actually those two options are on most of my bikes.  They are either 
outfitted in Ergon's or they have ESI.  Can't go wrong.

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 12:37:50 PM UTC-4, ian m wrote:
>
> Everyone who needs some cush and hasn't tried ESI grips really owes it to 
> themselves to check them out. They come in a wide array of colors and 
> girths and lengths and are extremely affordable for a MUSA product. They 
> really are the bees knees and don't diminish the beauty of Nitto bars IMO
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>>
>> Kai, you channeled Garth perfectly! Before I got to the part where you 
>> mentioned him, I had to look at your heading again to make sure you weren't 
>> him :-) Bullmoose: Have them on the Hunq. For me they need to be saddle 
>> height. I had cork grips to begin with and struggled with numbness and was 
>> really disappointed because I think they're beautiful bars. Going with some 
>> cheapy rubber grips solved the numbness and now I love them for trail and 
>> single track riding.
>
>

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[RBW] FS: Blue Medium Saddlesack, NEW

[Joe Bernard]

Bump. People keep asking about this, then don't say anything after I reply. 
What's up with that?? 

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[phil k]

Paul Racers are the way to go. I've fit switchback hills under them, didn't 
ryt o put on fenders though.,

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote:
>
> Friends, 
>
> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper 
> brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while 
> since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would 
> seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the 
> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with 
> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? 
>
> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? 
> (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to 
> tinker eventually...)
>
> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small 
> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I 
> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brett
>

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

[ian m]

Everyone who needs some cush and hasn't tried ESI grips really owes it to 
themselves to check them out. They come in a wide array of colors and 
girths and lengths and are extremely affordable for a MUSA product. They 
really are the bees knees and don't diminish the beauty of Nitto bars IMO



On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 9:40:29 AM UTC-4, Tim wrote:
>
> Kai, you channeled Garth perfectly! Before I got to the part where you 
> mentioned him, I had to look at your heading again to make sure you weren't 
> him :-) Bullmoose: Have them on the Hunq. For me they need to be saddle 
> height. I had cork grips to begin with and struggled with numbness and was 
> really disappointed because I think they're beautiful bars. Going with some 
> cheapy rubber grips solved the numbness and now I love them for trail and 
> single track riding.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[R Shannon]

Max,

I tried converting a 1985 Trek 400 to 650b using the Tektro 559 brakes. I
filed down the slots on the front to get them to work (barely). In
retrospect I should have tried the DiaCompe 750 long reach center pulls
which have 78mm of reach. Those brakes get mixed reviews but they sure have
the required reach!

Best of luck with your conversion.
Rich

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Max S  wrote:

> Is the reach on Paul Racer the same as Tektro 559?.. (I've an old bike
> that I'm converting to 650b and the Tektros seem to need an extra 2 mm or
> so. So, I'm debating between splurging for the Racers or getting the frame
> and fork modified to accept cantilevers.)
>
> - Max "endless projects" in A2
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:23:35 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote:
>>
>> Brett:
>>
>> Brett:
>>
>> My four year old Sam has Tektro 559 brakes and they work fine with
>> fenders and 38mm tires. But I can confirm what Drew says: the Paul Racers
>> are a step up. They have a nicer feel (smooth and solid is the best
>> description I can provide). The additional clearance they provide over the
>> Tektros is a bonus. If you have the cash and want to begin the addiction to
>> Paul Components then go for it. You won't be disappointed.
>>
>> Best,
>> Richard
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote:
>>>
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the
>>> caliper brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a
>>> while since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required
>>> would seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the
>>> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with
>>> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne?
>>>
>>> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good
>>> idea? (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will
>>> look to tinker eventually...)
>>>
>>> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small
>>> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I
>>> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Brett
>>>
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[RBW] Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[tc]

I have a 58 Sam with 559s. Stopping power is just fine.  I’m 190lbs and do road 
and greenway riding (no off-road) on this bike. Wet braking is fine. 

I run 44 Snoq Pass tires under the 559s with no fenders, no prob. 

Speaking of fenders, the Paul’s would certainly allow wider tires with fenders. 
The SKS longboards fit under the 559s when running a 38 tire.  

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Re: [RBW] Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Jim Bronson]

I'm 6'7" and 300+, although I don't ride a Sam, but rather an older 650b
converted Riv with the R559 brakes.  I think they work fine.  If I felt
like I needed to stop more quickly I'd get some Kool Stop pads.

If I still lived in Oregon I'd probably look into a bike with discs.  I
rode my 80s 10 and 12 speed bikes around a lot growing up and when it
rained, which in Western Oregon is often, the brakes were worse than
useless.



On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 4:36 PM Brett Callahan 
wrote:

> Friends,
>
> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper
> brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while
> since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would
> seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the
> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with
> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne?
>
> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea?
> (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to
> tinker eventually...)
>
> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small
> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I
> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brett
>
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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Joe Bernard]

Racers are listed 57-67, R559 55-73. 

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Max S]

Is the reach on Paul Racer the same as Tektro 559?.. (I've an old bike that 
I'm converting to 650b and the Tektros seem to need an extra 2 mm or so. 
So, I'm debating between splurging for the Racers or getting the frame and 
fork modified to accept cantilevers.) 

- Max "endless projects" in A2 


On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 11:23:35 AM UTC-4, RichS wrote:
>
> Brett:
>
> Brett:
>
> My four year old Sam has Tektro 559 brakes and they work fine with fenders 
> and 38mm tires. But I can confirm what Drew says: the Paul Racers are a 
> step up. They have a nicer feel (smooth and solid is the best description I 
> can provide). The additional clearance they provide over the Tektros is a 
> bonus. If you have the cash and want to begin the addiction to Paul 
> Components then go for it. You won't be disappointed.
>
> Best,
> Richard
>
> On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote:
>>
>> Friends, 
>>
>> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper 
>> brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while 
>> since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would 
>> seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the 
>> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with 
>> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? 
>>
>> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? 
>> (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to 
>> tinker eventually...)
>>
>> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small 
>> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I 
>> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. 
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Brett
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Brett Callahan]

My sincere thanks to you all for your comments. I think I'll go ahead with 
the purchase. In the short term, I'll put kool stop pads on the Tektros and 
see how they feel. The consensus seems to be that the Paul's are a slight 
step up in power, but are more work to set up (fine with me) and vastly 
more expensive. 

I appreciate all of your input. 
Brett

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[RichS]

Brett:

Brett:

My four year old Sam has Tektro 559 brakes and they work fine with fenders 
and 38mm tires. But I can confirm what Drew says: the Paul Racers are a 
step up. They have a nicer feel (smooth and solid is the best description I 
can provide). The additional clearance they provide over the Tektros is a 
bonus. If you have the cash and want to begin the addiction to Paul 
Components then go for it. You won't be disappointed.

Best,
Richard

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote:
>
> Friends, 
>
> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper 
> brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while 
> since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would 
> seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the 
> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with 
> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? 
>
> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? 
> (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to 
> tinker eventually...)
>
> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small 
> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I 
> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brett
>

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[RBW] Re: Styrofoam in a Ram bottom bracket shell?

[Luke]

Thank you to all for your responses - this makes total sense to me now. I 
vaguely remember the Styrofoam so I can see how a bit of it would have 
fallen down the seat tube. It was getting late so I passed over the obvious 
answer. Below is a photo of my Ram taken this morning w/ its new BB - in 
it's current bike commuter/weekend long ride set up (and trying out a front 
basket). Always Willing, Ever Able! :) 




On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 1:02:54 AM UTC-4, Luke wrote:
>
> It took me 14 years to finally burn out the Tange BB on my Riv built '04 
> Ram.  While pulling it out, a big piece of styrofoam came out of the lug 
> with it. Would anyone happen to know why that would have been in there? I 
> didn't put it back in there with the new UN55 ha ha.
>
> Thank you- 
>
> Luke 
>

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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle turning into a banana

[Paul Richardson]

truly worth a thousand words!  thanks for taking the time to post pics.  i 
hope my brooks looks like that some day!

On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 11:59:13 PM UTC-4, Jim S. wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> I have been touring, and yesterday it rained quite a bit. My B17 seems to 
> have developed quite a curve, upsloping front and back, or sagging in the 
> middle. Is this unusual? Is it bad? Just curious about what board members 
> think. Thanks.
>

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[RBW] FS: Clem H mustard 52

[Joe Bernard]

There's also this, which I'm just going to tag on here instead of trying 
another FS post for it..I had one up a while back at a higher price. Pashley 
Clubman, one rear cog with Paul Melvin, triple cranks with derailer and thumby, 
Paul Racer brakes, 54-56.5, $600 shipped or trade me parts and stuff, no 
saddle/pedals.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/rAwLnNgcqVaTfGhp8

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[RBW] Styrofoam in a Ram bottom bracket shell?

[Matt C.]

Maybe it was under UCI weight requirements and the Styrofoam was needed to make 
it weight legal?

-Said no one about a Riv. 

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

[Joe Bernard]

Tim, I can't ride cork grips to save my life. My little cushionless hands need 
cush!

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Joe Bernard]

Good call about brake pads, I don't have my R559 bike anymore and forgot I 
changed them. So my comparison about Racers and Tektros having about the same 
braking power correlates to replacement pads on the Tektros. 

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[Marc Irwin]

Mine is my favorite bike.  If I were to go to one bike, that would be the 
one.  The Tektro calipers I'm using are ok, but Paul centerpulls would be 
better I'm sure.

Marc

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 5:36:35 PM UTC-4, Brett Callahan wrote:
>
> Friends, 
>
> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper 
> brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while 
> since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would 
> seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the 
> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with 
> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? 
>
> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? 
> (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to 
> tinker eventually...)
>
> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small 
> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I 
> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brett
>

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Re: [RBW] Styrofoam in a Ram bottom bracket shell?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

There's no telling how much faster you'll be now that you've gotten rid of all 
that extra weight :-)

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

['Tim' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Kai, you channeled Garth perfectly! Before I got to the part where you 
mentioned him, I had to look at your heading again to make sure you weren't him 
:-) Bullmoose: Have them on the Hunq. For me they need to be saddle height. I 
had cork grips to begin with and struggled with numbness and was really 
disappointed because I think they're beautiful bars. Going with some cheapy 
rubber grips solved the numbness and now I love them for trail and single track 
riding.

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[RBW] Re: Will a microshift R10 short cage derailer wrap a 2 x 32-11 setup?

[Ron Mc]

oops, edited again

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 6:23:46 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> oops, edited my post wrong - see below
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 6:22:41 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>>
>> your needed chain wrap is 40-24+32-11=37
>>
>> chain wrap of that RD is 33
>>
>> the 4-tooth difference would let you shift no smaller than 24T/15t in the 
>> rear, but you can question whether you would ever want to shift to 
>> small/smallest.  
>>
>> I run a half-step+granny triple x 7 on a Cyclone GT that won't go to the 
>> two smallest cogs on granny, but never a reason to.  
>> So I think it would work fine for you, as long as you keep the difference 
>> in mind.  
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Will a microshift R10 short cage derailer wrap a 2 x 32-11 setup?

[Jim Bronson]

I'm running 44/28 up front with 11-32 in the back and a Microshift R10 rear
derailer.  I know it's only rated for 28T, but it works great with the
11-32.

I spend close to 99% of my time in the 44.  I did use the 28 yesterday a
few times for climbing out of some Hill Country river valleys in 95F heat
with dead tired legs.

I don't know if small/small would work and honestly I don't care to try it
except maybe in the stand.

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 5:52 PM Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> I know sometimes derailers can handle more than stated sometimes. Just
> wondering if anyone has done it and worked.
>
> Up front: wide low double - 24/40
> Cassette: 11-32 8 speed.
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[RBW] Re: Will a microshift R10 short cage derailer wrap a 2 x 32-11 setup?

[Ron Mc]

ps - I'm running the mid-cage R10 with 42/25T and 13-29t, and have total 
coverage - it will go to small/small, and I usually store it in 25T/14t to 
keep the RD spring relaxed.  
Also use small/smallish riding through standing water to keep the chain 
elevated.  

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[RBW] Re: Bullmoose Bars - Your Experiences?

[Kainalu V.]

Adjustability proves nothing is perfect. That Bullmoose aren't proves something 
else? Maybe akin to blind faith in an infallible supreme being? Or that close 
enough is as good as it gets? Or that everything else is so I don't have to be? 
Whatever it is, it's worked for me. I've had them on multiple quickbeams and 
have loved them, much of that love due to their lack of adjustability and the 
resulting squash of the dreaded "hand wringing" over it's not perfect enough. 
As Garth might say, put your hands on it and pedal!, it'll be fine. And as Joe 
has noted, ergon grips are goodness.
 
still waiting for some 200mm bullmoosies to come around the bend
-Kai
BKNY 

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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[blakcloud]

I have a Sam with the Tektro brakes and they are not great brakes but 
adequate and only after a pad change. They look good, nice sculpted lines 
and the finish of the brake is well done. Super easy to set up which is a 
bonus. The price is more than affordable so they have that going for them. 

If I had to do it again, I wouldn't buy them, but on the other hand you 
don't see me running out and buying the Paul's as a replacement. So I like 
them well enough to keep them on my bike but I have never been impressed. 




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[RBW] Re: Brooks saddle turning into a banana

[Ron Mc]

I would consider that saddle ready to replace.  

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 10:53:47 AM UTC-5, Ian A wrote:
>
> Hi Lum
>
> So far the rivets are holding up fine. 
>

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[RBW] MIT Roadeo coming?

[Fullylugged]

Lim:

  Essentially, I built my own "Road-ini". The Waterford RS12 that Jim here on 
the list sent my way is styled like a classic Riv. Level TT, extended HT, nice 
fork curve with generous rake resulting in a low trail and 42 cm chain stays. 
Converting it to 650B only enhances the comfort and the ride while fitting 38 
mm tires without fenders and 33 +/- with. The colors are almost dead on for the 
original Road or Romulus blue with a cream head tube! By building it up with 
Riv spec parts (Sugino XD, Nitto Noodle, etc) it corners and tracks like a 
Roadeo, having crisper geometry than the Hilsen or Ram and lighter tubing as 
well.  All that to say you might also look for a frame like that and build it 
up Roadeo style. Unless of course, you want to call RBW and discuss a custom. 
That could be great as well!  Legolas was introduced as a CX bike before the 
gravel craze took hold. Roadeo was a nod to the fast club ride crowd and 
Roadini a more affordable bike doing almost the same thing.  I posted a link to 
pictures in another thread.

Tailwinds
Bruce

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[RBW] Re: Will a microshift R10 short cage derailer wrap a 2 x 32-11 setup?

[Ron Mc]

oops, edited my post wrong - see below

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 6:22:41 AM UTC-5, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> your needed chain wrap is 40-24+32-11=37
>
> chain wrap of that RD is 33
>
> the 4-tooth difference would let you shift no smaller than 32T/15t in the 
> rear, but you can question whether you would ever want to shift to 
> small/smallest.  
>
> I run a half-step+granny triple x 7 on a Cyclone GT that won't go to the 
> two smallest cogs on granny, but never a reason to.  
> So I think it would work fine for you, as long as you keep the difference 
> in mind.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Will a microshift R10 short cage derailer wrap a 2 x 32-11 setup?

[Ron Mc]

your needed chain wrap is 40-24+32-11=34

chain wrap of that RD is 37

the 3-tooth difference would let you shift no smaller than 32T/14t in the 
rear, but you can question whether you would ever want to shift to 
small/smallest.  

I run a half-step+granny triple on a Cyclone GT that won't go to the two 
smallest cogs on granny, but never a reason to.  
So I think it would work fine for you, as long as you keep the difference 
in mind.  

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report - 600-mile tour on Joe Appaloosa

[ascpgh]

Late, but many thanks for your report and pics. I just got back to reading 
and looking. That path really does have so many threads of American history 
knit into it. I keep riding down that way for that reason and that it's 15 
minutes from my door. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 11:05:16 AM UTC-4, Brad Arnold wrote:
>
> Hello All. I hope you find this ride report useful, especially if you are 
> looking for your next adventure. A link to the photos is below the text.
>
>
> I teach at an independent high school in Staunton, VA, in the middle of 
> the Shenandoah Valley. This summer a number of us attended a conference in 
> Pittsburgh, PA, 400 miles away (800 round trip). Always looking for a 
> bicycle adventure, I decided to load up my Joe Appaloosa and ride to the 
> conference. I planned for six days up and six days back. The first two days 
> included state routes, both highway and rural back roads. The remainder of 
> the route utilized the C Canal towpath and the Great Allegheny Passage 
> (GAP), taking me all the into the city. My wife, also a teacher, met me on 
> the GAP, riding her Surly LHT. A colleague would ride with me on the return 
> trip.
>
>
> I loaded Joe with an unreasonable amount of gear. In addition to tent, 
> pad, sleeping bag, cook stuff, and extra clothes, I carried a number of 
> electronic gadgets and other things to keep me busy, including books. I 
> also carried all my business clothes for the conference. I placed those in 
> an Ortlieb waterproof duffle that kept them bone-dry during torrential 
> rains. Knowing a had a brass ensemble rehearsal when I returned, I even 
> strapped a trumpet to the front basket for nightly practice sessions. 
>
>
> The first two days had me traveling along roads that connected a number of 
> Civil War sites. I passed local battle markers every few miles and often 
> stopped to photo the bike next to them. As a graduate of the Virginia 
> Military Institute, I made sure to stop by General Thomas “Stonewall” 
> Jackson's headquarters in Winchester and New Market. Jackson taught a VMI 
> before the war and cadets fought as a corps in the 1864 Battle of New 
> Market, losing ten boys. The heat those two days was oppressive, often 
> exceeding 100 degrees. I drank plenty of liquids but found it hard to eat 
> anything of substance, leading to a weakened state and a nap under a tree 
> next to a McDonald's. Reaching Harper's Ferry at the end of day two, I 
> lugged the 100 pounds of bike and gear down the spiral metal staircase to 
> join the C trail. I set up camp that night in a virtual swamp where 
> mosquitoes terrorized me until I crawled into my tent to play trumpet. 
>
>
> My time on the canal towpath could not have been more different that the 
> previous days. Rain poured for 48 hours, exacerbating the flood conditions 
> already present in Maryland. The trail was a muddy, rutted mess. Crews 
> constructed temporary wooden bridges to allow travelers to cross numerous 
> washouts. The river was high and the canal itself full of algae-covered 
> water. Mosquitoes descended on me every time I stopped for a photo. Going 
> was rough, but my fenders kept most of the muck off me and the bicycle. I 
> enjoyed seeing the mountain bikers and gravel grinders covered in mud and 
> water as we passed each other. I hopped off the trail for thirty miles to 
> avoid the mess and also to visit Antietam National Battlefield Park. 
> Although the C is notorious for its poor trail conditions, I recommend 
> the ride to anyone who has the opportunity. Many of the locks are still 
> present and the views are beautiful.
>
>
> Rain continued to fall as I met my wife in Cumberland and the start of the 
> Great Allegheny Passage. We spent the first day climbing up to the Eastern 
> Continental Divide. The 25-mile climb was long, but not steep. Day two on 
> the GAP witnessed a break in the rain and the beginning of several days of 
> beautiful sun and moderate temperatures. We enjoyed the trail immensely, it 
> being well-maintained and smooth the entire route. We stayed at Husky 
> Haven, a great campground at Rocktown.
>
>
> Because I do not research routes much before hitting them, each little 
> trail town offered a pleasant surprise as we emerged from long stretches of 
> forest into areas of civilization. We experienced history from the French 
> and Indian War as we passed through areas traveled by George Washington and 
> General Braddock. An original 1756 fort gave us reenactments and we spent a 
> good amount of time exploring the wonderful town of Ohio Pyle, made famous 
> by its waterfalls. We crossed massive rail bridges and dashed through long 
> and dark tunnels (the Paw Paw canal tunnel is a sight to behold). The 
> riding was scenic and gave us innumerable moments of joy and shared 
> experiences. 
>
>
> After staying at a well-maintained campsite with shelters, we headed to 
> our destination in Pittsburgh. The route 

Re: [RBW] Styrofoam in a Ram bottom bracket shell?

[ascpgh]

Joe and Ed beat me to it: +1 on original packing material that entered the 
frame versus escaped when broken up. 

They didn't use the box bike plastic cap solution since the seat cluster 
lug has a nice lug with an upward point that must be protected from 
deflection (or else the seat post wouldn't go in). The styrofoam was 
partially punched by the seat post lug and stopped by the top tube for a 
good shipping pad solution. 

Andy Cheatham
Pitttsburgh

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018 at 4:43:04 AM UTC-4, ed wrote:
>
> I think Joe is right.
> When the ship the bike, they put a styrofoam on top of the seat tube that 
> looks like a letter T to protect the lug.
> Maybe the lower portion that is placed inside the seat tube broke off and 
> went down the bottom bracket.
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> If the bike was ever packed and shipped, it probably got knocked down the 
>> seattube. 
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Re: [RBW] Styrofoam in a Ram bottom bracket shell?

[Ed Fausto]

I think Joe is right.
When the ship the bike, they put a styrofoam on top of the seat tube that
looks like a letter T to protect the lug.
Maybe the lower portion that is placed inside the seat tube broke off and
went down the bottom bracket.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> If the bike was ever packed and shipped, it probably got knocked down the
> seattube.
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[RBW] Re: FS: New Phil cassette hub

[Nick Payne]

Forget I asked - I've just noticed that one of the photos shows the washer 
that goes behind the cassette when installing a 9/10 road cassette or a 
9/10/11 MTB cassette, which would indicate that it's the longer road 
freehub body.

On Wednesday, 1 August 2018 18:03:15 UTC+10, Nick Payne wrote:
>
> Is that freehub for 9/10/11 road or MTB? The Road freehubs are ~1.85mm 
> longer, and you can't fit an 11s road cassette (except for the new 11-34) 
> onto an MTB freehub.
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: New Phil cassette hub

[Nick Payne]

Is that freehub for 9/10/11 road or MTB? The Road freehubs are ~1.85mm 
longer, and you can't fit an 11s road cassette (except for the new 11-34) 
onto an MTB freehub.
>
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[RBW] Re: Please tell me about your experience with caliper braked Hillbornes.

[John Bokman]

I had the stock Tektros on my Sam. Found them lacking. I'd been using 
Cantis for years,and this was my first forray into sidepulls in years. I 
think the long arms resulted in too much flex. They were easy to adjust, 
however. Easily the easiest brakes I've used to set up and maintain. But in 
wet Oregon, not so great for me.
I use Paul Racer on a different bike, and they are heads and shoulders 
better for stopping. I don't care for their looks, but they work great. 
Worth the money to me.

On Tuesday, July 31, 2018 at 2:36:35 PM UTC-7, Brett Callahan wrote:
>
> Friends, 
>
> I'm considering the purchase of a lightly used Sam Hillborne--the caliper 
> brake version. The only thing giving me pause is that it has been a while 
> since I had anything with caliper brakes. The long reach required would 
> seem to limit my options to the Paul Racer Centerpulls and the 
> Tektro/Silver R559 brakes. Anyone want to share their experiences with 
> these brakes, particularly on the Hillborne? 
>
> If money were no object, would replacing R559s with Pauls be a good idea? 
> (The bike would come with R559s on it, but I am who I am and will look to 
> tinker eventually...)
>
> For background, intended use is as a primarily on road bike with a small 
> front rack, 38mm tires, and fenders. I'm six foot two, and weigh 235-245. I 
> live in Portland, so the bike will be ridden in the rain. 
>
> Thanks!
>
> Brett
>

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