[RBW] Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

[Joe Bernard]

I've owned a half dozen Rivs and most of them were at least partially built 
with stuff I had lying around. 

As others have noted, those old LX cranks need a long spindle which could take 
some work to find. I believe what you have now is a cup-and-cone BB, I'll bet 
you could install it on your Sam with fresh grease and it'll be good to go. But 
you'll need tools for that style. 

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[RBW] Rambouillet purchase

[Justin, Oakland]

That is a very reasonable price that I would pay if I wanted to own a Ram with 
a slightly nicer than standard build. 

-J

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[RBW] Rambouillet purchase

[lambbo]

2 bikes with blue rims!

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[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

[dougP]

Bottom brackets don't have to cost a lot of money.  Get the correct one; 
maybe call Rivendell for guidance.  

Based on personal experience & observation, lots of Rivendells get built up 
with interesting mixes of parts.  Over time, lots of people change the 
build as their needs change.  So whatever you start with may likely evolve 
with time.  That's part of the fun.  

doug

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 6:27:41 PM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne 60cm frame, and am going 
> through the travails of building it out.  This is my first Rivendell and 
> I'm pretty excited about it, but it is also my first full build and I'm 
> finding out all sorts of stuff I didn't know.
>
> It feels slightly sacrilegious to say this, but I was hoping to use some 
> used drivetrain parts I already have, so I can start riding the Sam 
> sooner.  I'd love some shiny new parts but I just spent more than I 
> intended on a frame.  Do other RBW owners use older parts, or is that more 
> of classic and vintage thing?  The parts I'm hoping to use are Shimano 
> Exage 300LX parts from a barely used 1992 XO-3.  The main problem now is 
> the that the bottom bracket in the bike is too short, so the crank would 
> rub the chainstay.  On the other hand, I think the grease is all dried up 
> in there, so it might be just as easy to replace it as fix it.
>
> Advice and opinions are welcome!
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

[Drw]

Totally. Not the craziest deal in the world but plenty fair. Have you ridden 
it? If you have and you like it, I don’t see any downsides. 

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[RBW] WTB 55 canti sam

[Andrew Huston]

Anyone out there have one they’d like to sell?

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[RBW] What tires fit good on 700c Sun CR18 rims?

[Philip Williamson]

I don’t recall having a hard time with tires, and I have several CR-18s in use.
Bruce Gordon Rock’n’Roads, Compass 42s, Voyager Hyper 38s. All seemed fine to 
me.

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

[Mike Packard]

Perfect. I say throw in a few bottles of bubbly too.  

Mike
ATX

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> He wants 1,200
>
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

[DarinM]

That seems like a very reasonable price for the bike and build. That said, 
let me know if you want to unload those cranks after purchasing. You know, 
to recoup your costs and what not...

Darin

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>
> He wants 1,200
>
> On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 9:50:58 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> What does he want for it? It'd be easier to judge his asking price than 
>> just make up one of our own. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

[DarinM]

Absolutely build with what you have/think makes the best build. I built my 
Altantis with a mix of 80's/90's and some new-ish parts. Granted it's an 
early 2000's frame but I would build it the same if I bought a new one 
today. Riv-ish builds do not need to be, nor are they commonly made of all 
new parts, they should just be quality parts that work well (ie, a longer 
BB in your case) and are a joy to use.

Darin

On Sunday, August 26, 2018 at 6:27:41 PM UTC-7, Eric Myers wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I just bought a New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne 60cm frame, and am going 
> through the travails of building it out.  This is my first Rivendell and 
> I'm pretty excited about it, but it is also my first full build and I'm 
> finding out all sorts of stuff I didn't know.
>
> It feels slightly sacrilegious to say this, but I was hoping to use some 
> used drivetrain parts I already have, so I can start riding the Sam 
> sooner.  I'd love some shiny new parts but I just spent more than I 
> intended on a frame.  Do other RBW owners use older parts, or is that more 
> of classic and vintage thing?  The parts I'm hoping to use are Shimano 
> Exage 300LX parts from a barely used 1992 XO-3.  The main problem now is 
> the that the bottom bracket in the bike is too short, so the crank would 
> rub the chainstay.  On the other hand, I think the grease is all dried up 
> in there, so it might be just as easy to replace it as fix it.
>
> Advice and opinions are welcome!
>
>
>

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[RBW] Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

[Ginz]

For sure, run what ya brung. I think Shimano Exage probably my uses an 
asymmetrical 122mm BB though. That’s a somewhat unusual item these days. That’s 
the catch. 

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[RBW] Building out New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne

['Eric Myers' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi,

I just bought a New Old Stock 2009 Sam Hillborne 60cm frame, and am going 
through the travails of building it out.  This is my first Rivendell and 
I'm pretty excited about it, but it is also my first full build and I'm 
finding out all sorts of stuff I didn't know.

It feels slightly sacrilegious to say this, but I was hoping to use some 
used drivetrain parts I already have, so I can start riding the Sam 
sooner.  I'd love some shiny new parts but I just spent more than I 
intended on a frame.  Do other RBW owners use older parts, or is that more 
of classic and vintage thing?  The parts I'm hoping to use are Shimano 
Exage 300LX parts from a barely used 1992 XO-3.  The main problem now is 
the that the bottom bracket in the bike is too short, so the crank would 
rub the chainstay.  On the other hand, I think the grease is all dried up 
in there, so it might be just as easy to replace it as fix it.

Advice and opinions are welcome!


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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

[James Copp]

He wants 1,200

On Thursday, August 23, 2018 at 9:50:58 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> just make up one of our own. 

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[RBW] Re: Summer’s Wild Rumpus

[tc]

Patrick, these are great pic's.  I've been away from the group a bit, and 
missed reading about your adventures.  When I was a more active fly 
fisherman, deer and turkey became almost common visitors while I silently 
cast my fly in the streams ... icing on the cake, isn't it?  Hope the ribs 
are healed up!

Tom

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[RBW] PSA: sweet frame for tall person

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sold $1007
6th bidder swept in to take it.
28 total bids.
I bowed out at $701
Would have bid $1125 for 68cm Orange Creamsicle Sparkle version.  

Ryan “always n+1 looking” Hankinson

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[RBW] PSA: sweet frame for tall person

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

26 bids
$903
2 minutes left
5 main bidders
Always comp for quality large frames.

Ryan Hankinson

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[RBW] Re: Have dynamo wheel your Roadeo?

[Jeremy Tavan]

I don't notice drag with any of my many dynamo hub wheels (SP, Kasai by SP, 
SON, Shimano), but I _do_ notice a vibration at some speeds with all of 
them. It's subtle, but if you're riding smooth roads you should be able to 
sense it. Is it a problem? No. All non-racing bikes should have full time 
dynamo lighting.

/J

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> Bike still run just as fast or did the dyno hub cause perceptable drag? 
>
> Thinking of SON hub dyno wheelset. My Roadeo runs really enjoyably fast so 
> I don’t want to slow it down. If you felt it did on yours let me know. 
>
> Thanks for your thoughts on your experience.

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Re: [RBW] Have dynamo wheel your Roadeo?

[John G.]

I have SON dynamo hubs in two of my bikes. The drag is completely unnoticeable 
when the light is off, and almost imperceptible when it’s on. My ride data 
backs it up, too. If I get a Roadeo, it will have a dynamo hub.

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[RBW] Re: F.S. Roadrunner Bags and Velo Orange Rackaleur

[Steve Butcher]

The bags have sold.  Thanks for all who have looked and inquired.

Steve

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> [image: 20180822_175915.jpg]
>
> [image: 20180822_185116.jpg]
> Hello, I'm sorting out my bag needs and have decided to offer for sale 
> this set of Roadrunner bags and a Velo Orange Rackaleur.  The bags include 
> a Jammer handlebar bag and a Drafter Saddle bag.  They are both in as new 
> condition without any damage.  I mounted them on my Riv Rosco Bubbe mixte 
> but only took them on one brief ride.  They have always been stored 
> indoors.  In the on bike photo (apology for side ways photo) you can see 
> the Jammer mounted on the Rackaleur which makes a neat way to mount the 
> bag.  It's like they were meant for each other.  The Rackaleur fits well 
> over quill stems and it is in excellent condition.  I'd like to get $150.00 
> for the entire package shipped CONUS PayPal preferred.  Retail on the lot 
> would be $220.00 before shipping.  Please send me a private message with 
> questions.  
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Butcher
> Stockton, Missouri
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[RBW] FS: 4 x Continental 650B 47-62mm Presta Tubes

[Stephen W.]

Just saw they sold on iBob. 

Thanks 

Stephen 

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[RBW] FS: 4 x Continental 650B 47-62mm Presta Tubes

[Stephen W.]

Email sent. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 4 x Continental 650B 47-62mm Presta Tubes

[sameness]

Sold to the guy 15 miles away. Thanks, all!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

[Belopsky]

Ride report: Seem to work well. I'll swap for Kool Stop pads eventually. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Ahearne+MAP Handlebar, 610mm, Silver

[sameness]

Philly to the rescue! All set, thanks!

Jeff Hagedorn
Los Angeles, CA USA

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[RBW] FS: 4 x Continental 650B 47-62mm Presta Tubes

[sameness]

[cross-post to iBOB]

Basically free for postage since I no longer have a 650B bike. 

Quantity of four (4) tubes, all new in box, just like these 

 
except Presta.

$13.65 shipped CONUS via USPS Priority Mail.

PM or email at my username at Gmail dot com, please and thanks.

Jeff Hagedorn
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Re: [RBW] Have dynamo wheel your Roadeo?

[Patrick Moore]

Addenda:

Sanyo and Union bottle dynamos, on, LED and Halogen lights: "on" is the
equivalent of a moderate headwind, but not as much  of a "drag" (hahahaha)
as sluggish tires with thornproof "True Goo" tubes, like the tiresets I
installed yesterday on a donor bike.

Sanyo bb dynamo: yes, you can tell when it is engaged, but it's like a
smaller headwind, a very small and modest headwind.

12-V bottle with halogen (as bright as 6-V with latest LED!): less drag
than the Sanyo bb; IIRC, hardly more noticeable than a SON 20R.

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> My Tip Of The Day:
>
> *"Worry about something else*."
>
> Amen.
>
> Over and out.
>
> Patrick Moore, who has had umpteen dynohubs of umpteen sorts and never
> could tell if they were on or off or absent.
>
> (Even with the K-Lite on High, 1,300 lumens, where the owner/maker says
> you will feel drag, I don't feel any.)
>
> On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Lum Gim Fong 
> wrote:
>
>> Bike still run just as fast or did the dyno hub cause perceptable drag?
>>
>> Thinking of SON hub dyno wheelset. My Roadeo runs really enjoyably fast
>> so I don’t want to slow it down. If you felt it did on yours let me know.
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts on your experience.
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Re: [RBW] Have dynamo wheel your Roadeo?

[Patrick Moore]

My Tip Of The Day:

*"Worry about something else*."

Amen.

Over and out.

Patrick Moore, who has had umpteen dynohubs of umpteen sorts and never
could tell if they were on or off or absent.

(Even with the K-Lite on High, 1,300 lumens, where the owner/maker says you
will feel drag, I don't feel any.)

On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 4:21 PM, Lum Gim Fong  wrote:

> Bike still run just as fast or did the dyno hub cause perceptable drag?
>
> Thinking of SON hub dyno wheelset. My Roadeo runs really enjoyably fast so
> I don’t want to slow it down. If you felt it did on yours let me know.
>
> Thanks for your thoughts on your experience.
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Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
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[RBW] Have dynamo wheel your Roadeo?

[Lum Gim Fong]

Bike still run just as fast or did the dyno hub cause perceptable drag?

Thinking of SON hub dyno wheelset. My Roadeo runs really enjoyably fast so I 
don’t want to slow it down. If you felt it did on yours let me know.

Thanks for your thoughts on your experience.

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[RBW] Re: Weight weenie report. Dia Compe 980 brakes

[Belopsky]

Nice!

I got my set it from RBW yesterday and installed today. Going to take a 
bike around the block and report back on how well they work with Tektro 
RL340 levers..

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[RBW] Summer’s Wild Rumpus

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

In which I share a variety of images from a medly of adventures so far this 
summer.

I’ve been blessed to ride most every day, despite stupidly breaking a few ribs 
(I switched to knobbier tires, Racing Ralph instead of Thunder Burt) and some 
stunningly smokey days from the conflagerations in California. I still can’t 
figure out on those über smokey days if I’m better off with the super heated 
yet cleaner air from a bandit-style bandana, or without it. I’ve been through 
torential rain, hot and humid (90’s with 70% humidity a few days), and hailed 
upon, with tornados and wall clouds surrounding me. Wild rumpus sums it up 
nicely! Grin.

https://thegrid.ai/withabandon/summers-wild-rumpus/

With abandon,
Patrick

www.CredoFamily.org
www.MindYourHeadCoop.org

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[RBW] Re: urban/city tire rec: 650b, 38mm or so

[Jim M.]

Schwalbe G-One Allround is a nice tire in 650x40. I also have the Allround 
in 650x57 set up tubeless. For a nice budget tire, I like the Conti Tour 
Rides that I got from Riv. Wired bead, $22, a continuous center strip so it 
rolls pretty well, and they've been bombproof for me.

On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 10:06:15 AM UTC-7, Patch T wrote:
>
> Hi Bunch
>
> A commuter needs some amount of puncture protection, but also not looking 
> for a set of bricks. Would love a happy in-between...
>
> Any recommendations? 650b, 38mm. Perhaps 40 or 42.
>
> Low cost a somewhat-requirement; I can be convinced.
>
> Thanks
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>

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[RBW] Re: urban/city tire rec: 650b, 38mm or so

[Evan E.]

I, too, like Panaracer Gravel King slicks. Puncture-protected but still 
fairly responsive and not bricklike. I have the 650 x 38s on my city 
commuter. Here's one source among many:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1or-2Pak-Panaracer-GravelKing-27-5-x-1-5-1-75-1-90-Bike-Tire-Gravel-King-650B-/371908010678?var==item569771e2b6

>
>
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[RBW] WTT: my Large MUSA shorts for your Mediums

[Eric Daume]

I ended up with three pairs of MUSA shorts in large, but I'm really more of
a medium waist.

If someone has the opposite issue, let's talk!

Mine are black, green, and grey. I think the greys might actually be XL,
even though they're labeled as Large--they seem looser, and the drawstrings
are really long.

Thanks,

Eric
Plain City, OH

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[RBW] Re: 2000 All Rounder

[chris feczko]

Wow this is my dream bike and size right there! Beautiful!

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[RBW] FS: Roadini F/F/HS/BB/SP 61cm Blue

[scott minor]

photos here: 

https://flickr.com/photos/147564748@N06/sets/72157672740481978

thanks!  -Scott 

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[RBW] FS: Roadini F/F/HS/BB/SP 61cm Blue

[scott minor]

I’ve had this frame since they first shipped last year and still have not 
completed the build.  Now I have my eye on a more classical frame (level top 
tube) that will serve the same function, run the same wheels, tires, so I’m 
offering up the Roadini for sale.  
I have mounted wheels and stem but otherwise the frame is NOS and shows no 
flaws.  If you’re looking for a Roadini in stunning Riv blue, here’s a chance 
to save some $.  
Asking $725 w headset, BB, seat post + shipping

Thanks!  -Scott 

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[RBW] Re: What tires fit good on 700c Sun CR18 rims?

[Matt C.]

Did you use the older version of stampede pass? Or extra light? I am using this 
combo of CR18 and standard Stampede Pass (newer tubeless version) and changing 
a flat has been tricky. Luckily I've only had one flat to date.

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[RBW] Re: FS: vintage XTR stash

['Marcus80' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'll take the m910 levers if they are still available.let me know   
 Mark Adey

On Wednesday, August 22, 2018 at 2:59:31 PM UTC-4, jbu...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> hi Gang 
>
> It's time to whittle down my stash of vintage XTR -- in my quest to 
> complete various groups, I've managed to accumulate a real trove. 
>
> Some of these ran on my Bruce Gordon Rock N' Road to great success 
> until I decided to upgrade to 11sp SRAM(!)… pics to come / on request, 
> but generally everything is in a quality, used condition and details 
> as noted below. Some I have multiples of but condition is overall 
> similar. 
>
> --- 
>
> SL-M910(?) - (dark grey) 8sp integrated shift/brake levers, excellent 
> condition. I understand these are highly sought after. $150 
>
> RD-M950 - (anthracite) 9sp rear derailleur, long cage, good used 
> condition, typical wear and tear. $65 
>
> RD-M951 - (anthracite) 9sp rear derailleur, rapid rise, medium cage, 
> good used condition, typical wear and tear. $65 
>
> RD-M951 - (anthracite) 9sp rear derailleur, rapid rise, medium cage, 
> good used condition, *needs pulleys*. $45 
>
> RD-M952 - (anthracite) 9sp rear derailleur, long cage, good used 
> condition, typical wear and tear. $65 
>
> RD-M960 - (shiny) 9sp rear derailleur, rapid rise, medium cage, very 
> good condition, minor wear. $80 
>
> BR-M950 - (anthracite) V-brake, original pads and holders, needs 
> bolts, very good condition. $75 
>
> BR-M960 - (shiny) V-brake set, original pads and holders, needs bolts, 
> excellent condition. $100 
>
> --- 
>
> I also have a couple FC-M570 Deore LX cranksets / square taper / 175mm 
> / 4-bolt 104 pattern. These are the ones with the removable anthracite 
> spider and are a very nice match with the 950 XTR group (without the 
> hell of octalink!), $35/ea. 
>
> Prices do not include shipping but feel free to make an offer on 
> multiple items. Thanks! 
>
> =- Joe Bunik 
> Walnut Creek, CA 
>

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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Drw,

Or one could say it speaks to the value Julian sees that he provides to those 
lucky enough to be his friends.  I would easily sacrifice $500 for the type of 
friendship list members here offer vs my “other” so called friends.

Perspective is everything.

Sincerely,
Ryan “quality over quantity” Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: FOR SALE ROHLOFF 14 SPEED HUB with WHEELS etc

[Charlie]

SOLD = PENDING 

On Monday, August 20, 2018 at 3:01:13 PM UTC-4, Charlie wrote:
>
> FRONT and REAR WHEELS WITH ROHOLOFF SPEED HUB 500/14 AND SHIFTERS - GRIPS 
> and EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO INSTALL ON YOUR ROAD or HYBRID BIKE or TOURING 
> BIKE  WITH INSTRUCTION MANUAL 
>
> PROFESSIONALLY BUILT WHEELS SUN CR18 RIMS - STAINLESS STEEL SPOKES - FRONT 
> HUB :VELOCITY
>
> The Rohloff Speedhub is an epicyclic internal hub gear for bicycles, 
> developed and patented by Rohloff AG. It has been manufactured and marketed 
> by that company since 1998. The Speedhub 500/14 has 14 equally spaced 
> sequential non-overlapping gear ratios operated by a single twistgrip. The 
> overall gear range is 526%, meaning the highest gear is 5.26 times as high 
> as the lowest gear. Individual gear shifts when shifting up give an 
> increase of about 13.6%
>
> CONDITION IS LIKE NEW - LESS THAN 100 MILES - ALL QUALITY PARTS - NO JUNK 
> - $135O CASH or USPS MONEY ORDER - SHIPPED TO U.S.A.
>
> Charlie Petry
> Jennersville PA
>
> contact = charliepedal (at) verizon (dot) net
>
> [image: DSCF1461.JPG]
>
> [image: DSCF1465.JPG]
>
> [image: DSCF1467.JPG]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] GDMBR with Adventure Cycling

[Bill Schairer]

“Will let you know of any ovet nights that we are planning here in Southern 
California”

Curtis, tried to PM you but not sure it went through.  Please do let me know!

Bill

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[RBW] Re: 2000 All Rounder

[MartyG]

>
> More pics here:
>

 https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/albums/72157700306321324 


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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet purchase

[Julian Westerhout]

Drw, 

Ha. It seems it's a costly proposition to be your friend! 

:) 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 


On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 10:15:33 PM UTC-5, Drw wrote:
>
> If I wanted a ram, and one in that condition with those parts was being 
> offered, I’d happily pay 1500$.  If a friend was selling it, I’d make him 
> sell it to me for 1000$ and be even happier. 

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