[RBW] For Sale in Seattle: Nitto, Nigel Smythe, Velo-Orange, Gran Bois, MB-3

[Rob]

All items OBO, and plus the actual cost of the shipping method of your 
choice, with local pickup in Seattle preferred. As always, if the price 
seems out of line for the item, make me a reasonable offer. 

Pics here: https://www.flickr.com/gp/robharrison/HaHy51
>
>
*Nitto Mark’s Rack*. Designed by Mark at Rivendell, made by Nitto. Super 
versatile. Can be mounted on the front to support a randonneur bag, or on 
the rear to support a big rear saddlebag. $100.

*Nitto Big Rear Rack*. The older version without the diagonal 
cross-bracing. Nicer, IMO $150.

*Tubus Fly Classic Rear Rack.* Stainless steel, narrow and sleek. $90.

*Nitto S83 2-bolt Seatpost*. 27.2mm diameter, 200mm long. (50mm shorter 
than the standard one you can get from Rivendell for $97.) Shows definite 
evidence of use, but still beautiful and functions perfectly. $60. 
 
*Nitto Jaguar SP-72 Track 2-Bolt Seatpost*. Brand new, never been mounted. 
27.2mm. Please note: Rail mounting slots are narrower than standard and 
ONLY fit track-style saddles. (I missed this!) $45.

Rare *Nigel Smythe Tweed Trunk Sack*, excellent condition, with rain cover. 
(Mark's Rack shown for scale, not included, but available separately--also 
listed for sale here.) $100.

*Velo-Orange Cigne Stem* Brand new. Mounted once, never ridden. Highly 
polished version. 31.8mm clamp (use shims if you need 'em). 145mm from 
bottom of stem to centerline of clamp. Similar to the Cunningham Limp Dick 
stem Crust makes, but with a little less extension and the handy removable 
face plate. And half the price, for this one. :) $60.

*Gran Bois Randonneur bars*. About 37mm at the hoods. Just like the current 
Compass bars, with the slight upsweep as the bar moves away from the stem 
n’ all. SUPER comfortable, just like Jan says. A bit of goo from bar tape, 
but I got most of it off. $75.

*Bridgestone MB-3 *Not perfect, but nice. Currently set up as a drop-bar 
single-speed, with the above-mentioned Gran Bois bars and a White 
Industries Eccentric ENO hub laced to a wide mountain-bike rim. I have all 
the original parts--rear wheel with 7-spd cassette, stem, chainrings, 
Ritchey bars, thumbies, front and rear derailleurs. $350 for everything, 
$250 for the original MB-3 only. 


Rob in Seattle

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[RBW] Glue for headbadge?

[Lum Gim Fong]

I inquired about buying extras and they said they have plenty of what I needed 
and are $20 a pop, iirc.

I might buy some extras for my Ram and Roadeo.

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[RBW] Re: threadless stem/steerer question

[Lum Gim Fong]

Could you just replace with an RBW Carbonomas fork and use a proper stem with 
the proper steerer length of the Carbonomas?

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[RBW] Re: threadless stem/steerer question

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

Try a seat post shim of the same thickness, such as this 
, and cut it to length. Seat post shims are 
generally 3" in length so you should have just enough material to work with.

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 2:19:31 PM UTC-7, Drw wrote:
>
> Ok but is filling it with a 4cm shim + a 3cm shim acceptable? I don’t 
> think they make one long enough for the whole thing. 

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[RBW] Re: Coverting a Rivendell to Lower Trail

[dougP]

Several years ago, I converted my 58 cm, 700c wheeled Atlantis to 40 mm 
trail, vs the 65 mm of stock.  The reason for the change was to cure an 
irritating wander at low speeds on hills.  I always have several pounds up 
front in an Acorn Boxy Rando bag.  Like you, I was concerned about the law 
of unintended consequences, and fortunately encountered none.  The wander 
as reduced noticeably, and there are no problems created by the low(er) 
trail.  

The 40 mm figure was suggested by several people knowledgeable about trail 
and Rivendells, including the builder who had done several Rivs before 
mine.  The change is admittedly subtle and certainly not an "aha" moment.  
It is definitely not the religious experience claimed by some of the low 
trail adherents.  

dougP

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 12:13:07 PM UTC-7, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Has anyone converted a Rivendell to a lower trail front geometry?  If so, 
> did the change result in problems?   
>
> Was wondering if the laid back STA & HTA used on Rivendells has an affect 
> when going to a lower trail.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
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[RBW] 68cm Rambouillet

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Has anyone heard back from Lon via PM.  Nothing received on my end from my 
inquire also.  
If anyone strikes out you can contact me if you are interested in a 68 Atlantis 
or 64 Bombadil.

Sincerely,
Ryan “jumbo hoarder” Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Seattle area bike packer?

[Tim Butterfield]

In case my Atlantis needs to be shipped, I might need to find a bike shop
that can be trusted to correctly and safely pack it for BikeFlights.  I do
not trust my local shop to do it, but am willing to take it anywhere
between Bellingham and Seattle to find the most trustworthy shop to do it.

For those who have already been through this process, what Seattle area
shop would you most trust to be able to do it right?

Thanks.

Tim

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Ash,
What size is your Appaloosa?
How do you compare the ride with your MIT Atlantis?
Edgar

> On 27 Oct 2018, at 11:24 PM, Ash  wrote:
> 
> 
> Here's my Joe A.  He's 34 lbs.
> 
> 
>> On Saturday, 27 October 2018 08:21:59 UTC-7, Ash wrote:
>> My MIT Atlantis 50cm as shown weighs 31 lbs.
>> 
>> Brooks B67, those bulky Schwalbes and Velocity Cliffhangers are contributing 
>> all the extra ozs.   But for my use they are almost perfect.  Happy to 
>> peddle a bit extra weight and burn some extra calories while enjoying the 
>> luxurious ride they offer :)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, 25 October 2018 19:18:27 UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>> This custom from 2001 (62cm) weighs in at 22l lbs.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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[RBW] Re: Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

[Bob K.]

IRD makes some pretty nice cranks that may fit the bill.

http://www.interlocracing.com/crank-arms-chainrings/


Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: Coverting a Rivendell to Lower Trail

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'd think that the best way to convert a Riv to low trail is to sell the 
Riv and buy a low-trail bike.  Low trail, mid-trail, and high trail are 
fundamental aspects of a bike, IMO, and if the trail doesn't match what 
you're looking for then get one that does.  

Dave
Boston/Indy 


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[RBW] Re: threadless stem/steerer question

[Drw]

Ok but is filling it with a 4cm shim + a 3cm shim acceptable? I don’t think 
they make one long enough for the whole thing. 

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[RBW] 68cm Rambouillet

[Bruce Curry]

Hey Lon, would love to chat about this.  currybru...@gmail.com Many thanks.  
Bruce 

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[RBW] wtb: bosco, paul things

[Patch T]

Hi all, rainy day shopping. 

Looking for some used bits if you've got 'em:

Boscoes. I think I'd like the 52 aluminum but would take the 55 cromo too. 
I believe I am between sizes.

Paul shifter mounts 

Paul Love levers for short pull, not linear, open to any all 
colors/finishes.


I bet I have things to trade. 

Thanks

Patch
BK/NY

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[RBW] Re: threadless stem/steerer question

[Joe Bernard]

I agree with Brian for the same reason I think carbon forks are a bad idea: The 
steering area of a singletrack vehicle is simply not the place to cut corners 
and take chances. Fill that gap!

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[RBW] Coverting a Rivendell to Lower Trail

[Joe Bernard]

Is this a thing you're really into? I tried low trail and it ended up being a 
very expensive way to learn I don't like it much. I love the way Grant designed 
his bikes to ride. 

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[RBW] Coverting a Rivendell to Lower Trail

[DarinM]

Like you said, shallow hta could be an issue, but wheel size is also a factor. 
Any hta could be made to be low trail with enough fork offset, but flop will 
increase as a result. You could change the fork length to steepen the hta but 
that will also lower the bb, which is already pretty low on Rivendells. I think 
you could probably convert a 72 degree hta Riv to low trail without serious 
effects to the rest of the geometry, but models with 71 degree might not handle 
great. Take a look at JimG’s trail calculator if you haven’t yet.

I love the way my Atlantis and Bleriot handle, but am working on my first low 
trail project just to see what it’s like. I’ve been considering the above 
geometric factors to determine if the frame/fork combo will work out, but in 
the end I just decided to go for it. So many small things will change it’s hard 
to say what the net result will be. The frame and fork I’m using were both used 
and pretty cheap so I’m not committed to anything custom, but the result is a 
bit of a crap shoot.

Darin

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[RBW] Re: Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

David you will get many different perspectives on gearing because we are all 
unique and think our gearing approaches work well and wish to share that joy.  
I have several bikes with comparable gearing as you propose and it perfectly 
meets my needs in the Midwest and surprisingly hilly Michigan locales.  
Also STI should be fine from again my own perspective.  Some are sure to 
disagree other may agree.  
Enjoying reading everyone’s perspectives.  Thanks for sharing you build plans 
with the group.

Ryan
West Michigan

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[RBW] Coverting a Rivendell to Lower Trail

[John Hawrylak]

Has anyone converted a Rivendell to a lower trail front geometry?  If so, 
did the change result in problems?   

Was wondering if the laid back STA & HTA used on Rivendells has an affect 
when going to a lower trail.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ


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[RBW] Re: Help me build my Roadeo, Part 2, CRANKSET

[David Wadstrup]

Thanks so much for all of your help and suggestions. It’s more than likely I 
will end up going with the WI. I’ll just have to learn to live with the black 
rings. For those of you that have or have used this crank  what can you 
tell me regarding its compatibility with STI? Does it shift nicely? Is there 
anything I should be aware of?

Also, since opening this discussion, I’ve done a bit of research and thinking 
regarding gearing and the front chainrings’ toothcount. I’ve gotten some good 
advice and think I’ll end up with a 48/32(with a 12-34 11sp cassette in back.) 
This is a pretty sizable jump it seems. Doable, but advisable? The 48 will 
likely give me the biggest gear I’ll need, and the 32 will make handling the 
hillier hills much more pleasurable. But do you think I’ll compromise shifting 
with a 16 tooth jump? Would anyone suggest a different 11sp cassette?

Thanks again. 

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[RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

[John Hawrylak]

Lum

Are the 8/5/8 frames standard diameters or OS diameters?   Assuming the 
Roadeo is OS?

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Wednesday, October 24, 2018 at 4:31:15 PM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> How I select bikes now:
>
> After fighting 8/5/8 TT/DT bikes for years up hills, I bought a 6/4/6 
> Roadeo.
> The ride is way better now. Hills way easier. I look forward to riding 
> now, instead of fearing hills.
>
> So I have decided any bike over 6/4/6 tubing is not for me.
> So that is the first criteria to meet when I select.
> Second, has to be steel.
> Third, pretty with nice fork bend and lugs, but lugs not a deal breaker.
>

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[RBW] Re: 68cm Rambouillet

['kobe' via RBW Owners Bunch]

No brother from another mother or even a step brother in your area but  am 
interested if you are willing to ship.

Such an awesome bike, I have been looking for my first Rivendell for a few 
years now and yours is the first big bike that has caught my attention and 
checks all the boxes for me.

Thanks,
Mark Etze
Schwenksville Pa. 

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[RBW] Re: 68cm Rambouillet

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Beautiful Golden Ager era.  Would ride my motorcycle from Michigan again to 
collect this if it was the amazing orange paint version.

Regardless interested since my favorite brother from another mother migrated to 
Sacramento and can pick it up for me.

PM sent Lon, but from phone so no clue if it went.
Please call me if it do not go through.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan
(616)928-4226

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[RBW] Glue for headbadge?

[Mike Godwin]

When the AHHilsen took leave of my bike, Riv just gave me a new one. 
Mike SLO CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone ridden both 26"/700c Atlantis'?

[William Henderson]

Hi Darin,
I never owned a 26” Atlantis, just ridden one that is similarly setup to mine 
(noodles roughly even with saddle). I’m sort of in the middle of sizes on the 
Riv sizing chart (6’, 31” inseam, I forget my pbh), but I feel supremely 
comfortable on my 61cm and on the smaller bike I did indeed feel cramped. 
Perhaps that could probably be adjusted for with the right stem and saddle set 
back. That said, as I graduated to running bigger and bigger tires on my 
Atlantis, standover became somewhat of an issue for me. It was fine on roads 
but on rough stuff I often wondered if I should be on a smaller frame. That 
(and wanting to run even bigger tires without taking off my fenders) was what 
ultimately motivated me to convert it to 650b. And yes it does now roll just a 
touch slower on smooth roads. 

William

> On Oct 26, 2018, at 10:21 PM, DarinM  wrote:
> 
> Thanks everyone for weighing in. I know the geometry is varied to keep the 
> steering characteristics and bottom bracket height similar between the small 
> and large frames, but still was curious if there are any  notable differences 
> in the way they ride, aside from the influences of wheel diameter/weight. I 
> do like the lower feeling that William noted in his comparison, but 700c 
> Atlantii (and all Rivs, really) have pretty low BB's compared to other bikes 
> so that's a plus.
> 
> Doug, thanks for the feedback. Pretty sums up what I'm starting to realize. 
> If it was a 58, I probably wouldn't even think about it, but two sizes is 
> hard to ignore. On the other hand, the 61 only has a 2cm longer top tube, the 
> difference is mostly in stack.
> 
> Nate, yes this the one! The seller didn't post it on list but it was outed 
> here by another member. Interesting that you remember this feeling large 
> given the bikes you ride now. I kind of have that feeling too. What brakes 
> did you use for the 650b conversion? I'm not interested in selling now but 
> will let you know if that changes.
> 
> William, did you own a 26" Atlantis or just ride one? How does your 61 fit 
> you? Did you feel noticeably cramped on the smaller size? It's odd to me that 
> mine doesn't exactly feel small, but maybe part of that could be due to large 
> tires and wide bars. 
> 
> Thanks for all the comments everyone. If there are any 61cm Atlantis riders 
> in the Seattle area, I'd love to take yours for a spin. Will buy 
> lunch/beer/etc!
> 
> Darin
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[RBW] Re: FS: 54cm Rambouillet - $1,300

[Mike K.]

I have 32mm Paselas on there, and the SO measured around 31.25"/79.3cm

- Mike

On Thursday, October 25, 2018 at 10:08:58 PM UTC-5, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Pics: https://photos.app.goo.gl/fJcLeXudQ5gKt4Ad9 
>
> $1,300 plus shipping. I’ll have a shop in town pack it and set up delivery 
> via bike flights. Should be about $150ish for CONUS. 
>
> Size/ ST: 54cm 
> TT: 55cm 
> Crank: Ultegra 6503 triple, 172.5, 52-42-30 
> FD: Ultegra 6503 
> RD: Deore M591 9sp rd 
> 11-32 9sp cassette 
> Tektro R539 sidepull brakes 
> Shimano bar ends. Indexing works well. 
> Nitto dirt drop stem 
> Gary 2 bars with shimano hood levers and Tektro interrupters to brake from 
> the flats. 
> Front wheel is shimano hub with Sunrim CR18 36h 
> Rear is Deore hub to Mavic A319 36h 
> Seat post is a Cambio Rino from an old Medici 
> No seat or pedals included 
>
> Been a good ride the last few years. Just time to move on and expand my 
> cycling horizons. Let me know if you have any questions! 
>
> - Mike in ATX

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[RBW] Re: Anyone ridden both 26"/700c Atlantis'?

[Drw]

I’ve owned a 700c/29er hunqapillar, 26in Atlantis and 650b Atlantis. I’ll 
second what a few have said. The main difference lies in the wheel size. 
26-faster from stop, slower once going. 29-slower from stop, faster once going. 
650b-happy middle (for me at least). The geometry matches and is essentially 
irrelevant...because it works on each size really well. 
That said, I think you’re way too big for a 56cm bike, and moving up a size or 
several will be much more comfortable. I have an 85-86 pbh and feel like 56cm 
is on the small side for me. 

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