[RBW] Paul motolite reviews?

[Drw]

Spectacular brakes. Can’t say they stop significantly better than deore v’s, 
but they definitely adjust and modulate better. Best brakes I’ve ever used in 
setup and function. If I was rich and smart, I’d probably start stockpiling 
them. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: nitto rbw51 top rack

[jamin orrall]

price drop, 115 shipped. 

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[RBW] Re: stack and reach for Riv frames

[Surlyprof]

Incredible!  I spent a couple of hours building various mountain bikes I was 
considering in CAD when I could have had the same info in a couple of clicks.  
Thanks, Reid.

John

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[RBW] Paul motolite reviews?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Looking at the video on their site, it looks like 95mm, but it's hard to see. 

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Paul motolite reviews?

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Could someone measure their clearance height for me please? Center of brake 
post mount to bottom of the brake bridge/cable attachment thingy please.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 54.5 MIT AHH

[Joe Bernard]

I'm not Phil but my math tells me the complete with wheels, no saddle/pedals, 
is $1900 + $425 = $2325.

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[RBW] PSA: Bikeinsights.com: great geometry resource

[Reid Echols]

Hi folks,

Mentioned it in another thread but figured I’d replicate here for all and 
sundry: 

https://bikeinsights.com/ is a one-stop shop for geometry comparisons among a 
staggering range of bikes and makers, including Riv. I’m not affiliated, but I 
do occasionally ride with one of the founders (Dan/@hobocross). It’s saved me 
from making several impulse purchases, but encouraged several others, so use at 
your own risk...

Reid in Austin

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[RBW] Paul motolite reviews?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

They're the absolute best brakes ever. The adjustability is second to none, 
easy, solid, precise. The release is quick and easy. They look weird, which is 
a plus. There's nothing else that comes close, I just wish they were free.
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: Paul motolite reviews?

[Chris L]

I have a set on the front of my Hunqapillar and I basically view it as 
"bling" for my bike.  I can't tell that it stops any better than the Deore 
V-brake it replaced, one of the bolts has to be tightened really tight to 
keep the spring pressure from loosening it and it squeals loud enough to 
wake the dead.  I thought linear pull brakes don't need toe-in but I guess 
this one does.  I am using this with a Deore brake lever.  

What I really want is mini-moto's (love the look) but I wasn't willing to 
give up tire clearance so I bought the Motolite as a way to dip my foot 
into the pond.  

I am impressed by the quality of the parts and the ability to rebuild the 
brake forever.  They are light and I honestly thought parts of it were made 
from plastic!  

Knowing what I know now, would I buy it again, or will I buy another for 
the rear?  Maybe.  I'm starting to think that wide profile cantilevers look 
even better than the motolites.


[image: motolite.jpg]
  







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> Thinking about upgrading to the Paul motolite brakes but would love to 
> hear opinions of them. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Paul motolite reviews?

[Justin Schoop]

John, 

Thanks. They would be going in my canti Saluki. Every Paul product I've had has 
been great, I just need to bite the bullet and order them.

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Re: [RBW] Paul motolite reviews?

[John McBurney]

I’ve got motolites on my Bombadil and they are great. On my 650b bike with
Paul levers they are very strong and modulate well. They are very
adjustable including toe in. Because of the range of adjustment you can use
them on a variety wheels and bikes. It might be possible to run both 650b
and 700c wheels on some frames with this rim brake but please confirm that.

Plus they exude hand made quality.

My 2 cents

John

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> Thinking about upgrading to the Paul motolite brakes but would love to
> hear opinions of them. Thanks!
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[RBW] Paul motolite reviews?

[Justin Schoop]

Thinking about upgrading to the Paul motolite brakes but would love to hear 
opinions of them. Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rides and activities for FotR / Rivmoot / RBWXXV Rivendell Anniversary Campout / Meetup

[Joe Bunik]

I'm likely / able to drive over and haul-in necessary items to camp,
Friday afternoon and will ride a loop from there. Regrettably I need
to be home Saturday night, but will have all day to play so will start
cooking up a few ideas.

Philip, the only mining of note in the area, to my knowledge (which
I'm always up for exploring) occurred in Copper Mine Gulch,
https://www.mindat.org/loc-81905.html.

=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

On 5/15/19, Clayton.sf  wrote:
> I like the proposal. Have done this ride a few times from SF. Mostly dirt
> but all tame. Usually rode up railroad grade, then traversed on pavement to
>
> BoRidge then down Shafter, swim at inkwells, off to STP.  Will be coming
> down from Healdsburg and likely catch the train too.
>
> Looking forward to this!
>
> Clayton
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>>
>> *Rivmoot 2019 is the weekend of July 19-21. *
>> I believe there is room for 30 people officially, and three cars. Justin
>> August can confirm nights, number of sites, and total possible guests.
>>
>> Details (Everyone is invited!):
>> *Samuel P Taylor Park, at the Devil's Gulch Group Camps
>> . *That's in Marin County, California,
>> in the woods near both the coast and Mount Tam (cradle of mountain
>> biking).
>> It's bikeable from SF and BART/Ferry/Bike-able from the East Bay.
>>
>> I'm happy to lead a North Bay ride to/from SPT (Samuel P Taylor) by bike
>> and SMART train . I live in Santa
>> Rosa, but we can meet on the train.
>> We could convene at the Iron Horse Brewery in San Rafael to link up with
>> people from the next train, if necessary. Route is TBD: probably Mill
>> Valley / Mt Tam / Bo Ridge on the way in, and a deadhead run out Sir
>> Francis Drake on Sunday.
>>
>> What riding would people like to do out there? I imagine there will be
>> some pretty epic loops, but also mellower tours of the cheese-making scene
>>
>> out in West Marin. For Saturday, I probably want to ride something Joe
>> Bunik puts together. Can't get enough of those mines!
>>
>>
>> Philip
>> Santa Rosa, CA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: stack and reach for Riv frames

[Mike Williams]

Yeah Reid!   Thanks for sharing this..again.   I must’ve missed it the first 
time.  Super cool.

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> On May 15, 2019, at 5:54 PM, John G.  wrote:
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> Holy moly, that is an outstanding resource. Bookmarking it.
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: 54.5 MIT AHH

[Peter Seterdahl]

Hi Phil,
Very nice bike.
So are you offering the bike as photographed, with saddle and peddles and
wheels?
If so, what is the price?
Thanks, Peter

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:35 PM phil k  wrote:

> Buyer of the wheels backed out.
>
> Wheels are Pacenti Brevet rims, SP dyno hub front, white industries T11
> rear spaced to 135mm, dt double butted spokes, both wheels are 32h.
>
> I can add the wheels to the complete build for $425. I can add the wheels
> to the frame set for $475.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 12:44:55 PM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>
>> Some people have asked if I could sell complete. I can sell everything
>> but wheels, saddle, and pedals. I can pack everything with my LBS so that
>> you will only have to get a wheel set, saddle, pedals, and some tire tubes.
>>
>> Here is the rest of the build list, all in all, about $3,100 worth of
>> parts for $1900 plus bike flights shipping. I'll be getting my LBS to pack
>> it.
>>
>> -MIT AHH frameset, bottom bracket, headset, seatpost
>> -Nitto Albatross heat treated aluminum handlebars
>> -Nitto Tallux stem
>> -Gilles Berthoud leather bar wrap (can include leftover extra)
>> -Shimano brake levers
>> -Paul funky monkey front brake hanger
>> -Nitto Reneherse rinko rear cable hanger
>> -Paul Racer centermount pair
>> -Paul polished silver moon unit pair
>> -Panaracer Pasela folding bead (65bx42)
>> Riv Silver crankset wide low 38/24 170mm arms
>> -B IQ-XS dyno front light
>> -B toplight line small tail light
>> -B bracket for saddle rail for tail light
>> -Sehdon fender nuts (pair)
>> -Nitto lamp bracket right side
>> -XT Cassette 11-32 9 speed
>> -XT rear derailleur 772 9 speed
>> -Shimano front derailleur
>> -Nitto Marks Rack with extended struts
>> -Grey buckle strap to reinforce mark's rack to handlebars
>> -Wald medium basket
>> -Outer Shell Adventures basket bag in ranger green
>> -Ultegra bar ends
>> -SRAM chain
>> -Shimano and jagwire cabling
>>
>> -Phil
>> Arlington, VA
>> - show quoted text -
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 11:03:56 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_20190514_185151.jpg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:

 Pics of when it was built up yesterday

 [image: IMG_20190514_185142.jpg]

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[RBW] Re: stack and reach for Riv frames

[John G.]

Holy moly, that is an outstanding resource. Bookmarking it.

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[RBW] Re: Rides and activities for FotR / Rivmoot / RBWXXV Rivendell Anniversary Campout / Meetup

[Clayton.sf]

I like the proposal. Have done this ride a few times from SF. Mostly dirt 
but all tame. Usually rode up railroad grade, then traversed on pavement to 
BoRidge then down Shafter, swim at inkwells, off to STP.  Will be coming 
down from Healdsburg and likely catch the train too.

Looking forward to this!

Clayton



On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 12:27:31 PM UTC-7, Philip Williamson wrote:
>
> *Rivmoot 2019 is the weekend of July 19-21. *
> I believe there is room for 30 people officially, and three cars. Justin 
> August can confirm nights, number of sites, and total possible guests. 
>
> Details (Everyone is invited!): 
> *Samuel P Taylor Park, at the Devil's Gulch Group Camps 
> . *That's in Marin County, California, 
> in the woods near both the coast and Mount Tam (cradle of mountain biking). 
> It's bikeable from SF and BART/Ferry/Bike-able from the East Bay. 
>
> I'm happy to lead a North Bay ride to/from SPT (Samuel P Taylor) by bike 
> and SMART train . I live in Santa 
> Rosa, but we can meet on the train. 
> We could convene at the Iron Horse Brewery in San Rafael to link up with 
> people from the next train, if necessary. Route is TBD: probably Mill 
> Valley / Mt Tam / Bo Ridge on the way in, and a deadhead run out Sir 
> Francis Drake on Sunday. 
>
> What riding would people like to do out there? I imagine there will be 
> some pretty epic loops, but also mellower tours of the cheese-making scene 
> out in West Marin. For Saturday, I probably want to ride something Joe 
> Bunik puts together. Can't get enough of those mines! 
>
>
> Philip 
> Santa Rosa, CA 
>
>  
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: nitto rbw51 top rack

[Tom Wyland]

Oh, it has the diving board plate.  I never noticed the difference!

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 4:47:16 PM UTC-4, jamin orrall wrote:
>
> this is different than the r14 in that it has a second set of struts on 
> the side, see riv’s latest email for details.  Both great racks!

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[RBW] Re: FS: nitto rbw51 top rack

[jamin orrall]

this is different than the r14 in that it has a second set of struts on the 
side, see riv’s latest email for details.  Both great racks!

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[RBW] Re: Race Report, Oh My!

[Sean McRobert]

Hey Collin, I love your Clem!  It wears mud well.  Nice camera work too.  
What kind of saddle bag is that in the pic in this thread?  I like they way 
it tucks in there and leaves some rack space.

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[RBW] Re: stack and reach for Riv frames

[Reid Echols]

Just spreading the good news! It’s truly a great resource, and they have a lot 
more in the works from what I hear. 

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[RBW] Rides and activities for FotR / Rivmoot / RBWXXV Rivendell Anniversary Campout / Meetup

[Philip Williamson]

*Rivmoot 2019 is the weekend of July 19-21. *
I believe there is room for 30 people officially, and three cars. Justin 
August can confirm nights, number of sites, and total possible guests. 

Details (Everyone is invited!): 
*Samuel P Taylor Park, at the Devil's Gulch Group Camps 
. *That's in Marin County, California, in 
the woods near both the coast and Mount Tam (cradle of mountain biking). 
It's bikeable from SF and BART/Ferry/Bike-able from the East Bay. 

I'm happy to lead a North Bay ride to/from SPT (Samuel P Taylor) by bike 
and SMART train . I live in Santa Rosa, 
but we can meet on the train. 
We could convene at the Iron Horse Brewery in San Rafael to link up with 
people from the next train, if necessary. Route is TBD: probably Mill 
Valley / Mt Tam / Bo Ridge on the way in, and a deadhead run out Sir 
Francis Drake on Sunday. 

What riding would people like to do out there? I imagine there will be some 
pretty epic loops, but also mellower tours of the cheese-making scene out 
in West Marin. For Saturday, I probably want to ride something Joe Bunik 
puts together. Can't get enough of those mines! 


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[RBW] Re: stack and reach for Riv frames

[Jim S.]

Reid, that is awesome. That's exactly what I wanted. Wow - what a great 
website. It's Whatbars, but for frames! There are other online tools that I 
looked at, but they were all flawed. This one is the best. Thank you!

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 1:53:57 PM UTC-5, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Hi Jim, 
>
> I'll recommend (again) the invaluable https://bikeinsights.com/
>
> Reid in Austin 
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-5, Jim S. wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, I was looking at frame geometry for various Rivs, and other bikes.
>>
>> I can't seem to find stack and reach on the Riv geometry charts. 
>>
>> Does anyone know where this information might be? It seems like a real 
>> helpful way of comparing frames.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini fendering at 32mm?

[lconley]

Exactly. Put the panhead bolt head or hex button head inside the fender and 
the nut on the outside. If you have daruma style stays, buy a $5 L-bracket 
from VO (or the sliding crimp fitting that comes standard with most metal 
fenders and some plastic fenders, crimp it to the fender or cut it up to 
make your own L-bracket)  - mount one side to the fender and the other to 
the daruma bolt (play with the orientation for best appearance. Can also 
use pop rivets ($4 with coupon for rivet gun, $4.80 for 500 rivets with 
coupon at Harbor Freight) to attach to fender for maximum clearance (use 
the aluminum rivets and pound or press them flat). You can also get 
aluminum angle at Lowes or Home Depot and make really nice aluminum 
L-brackets with a hacksaw, file and drill. If you have a bench grinder, it 
goes quicker. With a rat tail file, you can make a squiggly point an the 
bracket to match your lugs. Boulder Bike used to sell nice L-brackets (may 
have been Berthouds) , they still have some beautiful diamond shaped fender 
reinforcements.

The most difficult thing that I am putting fenders on is a Hubbuhubbuh with 
2.3 tires and linear brakes. The center stays at the rear have very little 
side clearance and the linear brake cables are just above the tires. The 
fenders will need to be cut or narrowed at the center stays and probably 
cut (or possibly slotted) at the brake cables. Honjo H95s (I believe the 
SimWorks are the same) are plenty wide enough. They are wide and use two 
darumas - you just put the darumas to the outside of each side of the 
fender to avoid the center of the tire, or I could use two L-brackets.

I am also putting H95s on my Bombadil - it has so much clearance to the 57 
mm G-Ones that nothing special needs to be done.

Laing
Cocoa, FL

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 1:21:03 PM UTC-4, ted wrote:

> The berthoud fender stays are very nice. They bolt directly to the fender 
> and you can put the small button head end on the inside. I’ve replaced the 
> stock stays on longboards with berthoud ones and I think it gives a stiffer 
> result as well as eliminating the internal hardware that some folks claim 
> sends water from inside the fender onto your feet. If I ever try metal 
> fenders I’ll probably want to use berthoud stays regardless of who makes 
> the fenders. 

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[RBW] Re: stack and reach for Riv frames

[Reid Echols]

Hi Jim, 

I'll recommend (again) the invaluable https://bikeinsights.com/

Reid in Austin 

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 1:47:43 PM UTC-5, Jim S. wrote:
>
> Hi all, I was looking at frame geometry for various Rivs, and other bikes.
>
> I can't seem to find stack and reach on the Riv geometry charts. 
>
> Does anyone know where this information might be? It seems like a real 
> helpful way of comparing frames.
>
>
>

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[RBW] stack and reach for Riv frames

[Jim S.]

Hi all, I was looking at frame geometry for various Rivs, and other bikes.

I can't seem to find stack and reach on the Riv geometry charts. 

Does anyone know where this information might be? It seems like a real 
helpful way of comparing frames.


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[RBW] Re: FS: 54.5 MIT AHH

[phil k]

Buyer of the wheels backed out.

Wheels are Pacenti Brevet rims, SP dyno hub front, white industries T11 
rear spaced to 135mm, dt double butted spokes, both wheels are 32h.

I can add the wheels to the complete build for $425. I can add the wheels 
to the frame set for $475.


On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 12:44:55 PM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>
> Some people have asked if I could sell complete. I can sell everything but 
> wheels, saddle, and pedals. I can pack everything with my LBS so that you 
> will only have to get a wheel set, saddle, pedals, and some tire tubes. 
>
> Here is the rest of the build list, all in all, about $3,100 worth of 
> parts for $1900 plus bike flights shipping. I'll be getting my LBS to pack 
> it.
>
> -MIT AHH frameset, bottom bracket, headset, seatpost
> -Nitto Albatross heat treated aluminum handlebars
> -Nitto Tallux stem
> -Gilles Berthoud leather bar wrap (can include leftover extra)
> -Shimano brake levers
> -Paul funky monkey front brake hanger
> -Nitto Reneherse rinko rear cable hanger
> -Paul Racer centermount pair
> -Paul polished silver moon unit pair
> -Panaracer Pasela folding bead (65bx42)
> Riv Silver crankset wide low 38/24 170mm arms
> -B IQ-XS dyno front light
> -B toplight line small tail light
> -B bracket for saddle rail for tail light
> -Sehdon fender nuts (pair)
> -Nitto lamp bracket right side
> -XT Cassette 11-32 9 speed
> -XT rear derailleur 772 9 speed
> -Shimano front derailleur
> -Nitto Marks Rack with extended struts
> -Grey buckle strap to reinforce mark's rack to handlebars
> -Wald medium basket
> -Outer Shell Adventures basket bag in ranger green
> -Ultegra bar ends
> -SRAM chain
> -Shimano and jagwire cabling
>
> -Phil
> Arlington, VA
> - show quoted text -
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 11:03:56 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>
>> [image: IMG_20190514_185151.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>>
>>> Pics of when it was built up yesterday
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_20190514_185142.jpg]
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Roadini fendering at 32mm?

[ted]

The berthoud fender stays are very nice. They bolt directly to the fender and 
you can put the small button head end on the inside. I’ve replaced the stock 
stays on longboards with berthoud ones and I think it gives a stiffer result as 
well as eliminating the internal hardware that some folks claim sends water 
from inside the fender onto your feet. If I ever try metal fenders I’ll 
probably want to use berthoud stays regardless of who makes the fenders. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Race Report, Oh My!

[Patrick Moore]

Collin: How do you like the K-Lite? I have an earlier model -- 2016 IIRC,
with single lamp, 600 and 1,200 lumens claimed, and candybar-sized
capacitor+switching system that tucks nicely away in a frame bag.

I use it only on familiar dirt "acequia" irrigation roads in our bosque,
but even with my bad night vision it is very nice -- I do carry a battery
back up for those times when speed drops below, say, 8-10 mph.

Agree about blinding oncomers, but I do use mine largely, if not entirely,
on dirt roads and paths that after dark are not very much frequented.

Must look more closely at the Rocketgeist product line.

On Tue, May 14, 2019 at 4:31 PM Collin A  wrote:

> Patrick, my camera skills are not the greatest, but thank you for the
> compliment!
>
> Tom, I ended up with the microshift 9 speed advent clutch deraileur and
> shifter. It works well enough, but doesn't look as nice as the silver bits,
> sadly.
>
> The framebag is a custom from Rockgeist bags:
> https://rockgeist.com/product/halfframebag/
> Greg is a wonderful guy to work with and there are lots of options on what
> can be done with those bags. They are a bit pricy, but nicely made and fits
> my frame like a glove, and the lace-ups look better than the velcro straps
> in my opinion. The patch is courtesy of Crust Bikes, it speaks to me, haha.
>
> The light is a pre-production version of the k-lite, but pretty much the
> same as the production I think:
> https://www.kliteusa.net/product-page/klite
> It has a symmetrical beam pattern, so I'd recommend sticking to the trails
> with this light (or make some sort of cutoff to avoid blinding people).
>
> I've found the ring-volume of the bell is significantly hampered when the
> bell ends up full of mud or covered in water, pro-tip!
>
> On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 4:15:27 PM UTC-7, tc wrote:
>>
>> Holy cow - muddy is right!  Congrats - sounds like a blast.
>> So, is an ugly big ol’ indexing SRAM shifter in your future?
>> Tom
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[RBW] Re: Roadini fendering at 32mm?

[Paul G]

Lots of good ideas here and from others. Yes, I was assuming stock supplied 
hardware but obviously one does not have to use it. When using the stock 
mounting hardware on some of the traditionally styled metal fenders, the 
hardware itself is what can limit vertical clearance. Some modern metal 
fender designs do seem to encroach upon the tire less.

Since the OP is referring to the Roadini, we assume a fender width limit of 
about 45mm. The rolled edges of popular traditionally styled metal fenders, 
combined with limited vertical clearance due to 57 mm reach caliper brakes, 
can limit the width of the tire more than an SKS P45 Longboard. I have VO 
45mm fenders on another bike. I haven't tried mounting them on the Roadeo, 
but eyeballing them leads me to my conclusions. Maybe one day, I'll give it 
a go just to see what I can get away with tire-wise. And if Iconley/Laing 
is willing to share some more tricks, maybe we'll be surprised at what's 
achievable.

Paul

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 6:20:03 AM UTC-7, lconley wrote:
>
> The idea that metal fenders have less clearance than SKS is false. You can 
> buy wider metal fenders than you can plastic. You can press/pound a recess 
> into metal fenders at the fork crown, front brake area to increase the 
> overall clearance in other areas. Some Honjo fenders can be had 
> pre-clearanced for this purpose. You cannot put a recess in the SKS plastic 
> fenders without cutting. If you want to maximize clearance, you can always 
> cut the fenders (plastic or metal) at the fork crown, front brake area, 
> this cures the open brake - fender interference issue. The forward part of 
> the fender can be held in place with a modified "diving board" rack mount, 
> fender stay, rack or some combination thereof. Rivendell will even do this 
> for you.
>
> Laing
> Cocoa, FL
>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadini fendering at 32mm?

[Patrick Moore]

Does the Roadeo have the same tire/fender clearance as the blue
Rambouillets? If so, I got 32-actual/35-labeled tires (Kojaks) under SKS
fenders without cutting things too fine. I daresay the right-sized Honjos
or Berthouds or VO metals would have worked as well.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fixed gear bike packing

[Patrick Moore]

Craig Montgomery, sometimes of this list (I think; he's on the boblist)
used to regularly tour loaded in the AZ desert (water) on fixed gears; I
think that now he's moderated and uses hub or even (gasp!) derailleur gears.

Craig?

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 2:26 AM Nick Payne  wrote:

> In about 1978, when I was living in Western Australia, a group of us who
> were a bit over just training and racing organised a nine day 1400km cycle
> camping tour. Two of the riders did it on fixed wheel - somewhere around a
> 65" gear as I recall. Luckily WA is not a particularly mountainous part of
> the world, and as far as I can remember they managed the hills OK.
>
> Nick
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[RBW] Re: FS: 54.5 MIT AHH

[phil k]

Some people have asked if I could sell complete. I can sell everything but 
wheels, saddle, and pedals. I can pack everything with my LBS so that you 
will only have to get a wheel set, saddle, pedals, and some tire tubes. 

Here is the rest of the build list, all in all, about $3,100 worth of parts 
for $1900 plus bike flights shipping. I'll be getting my LBS to pack it.

-MIT AHH frameset, bottom bracket, headset, seatpost
-Nitto Albatross heat treated aluminum handlebars
-Nitto Tallux stem
-Gilles Berthoud leather bar wrap (can include leftover extra)
-Shimano brake levers
-Paul funky monkey front brake hanger
-Nitto Reneherse rinko rear cable hanger
-Paul Racer centermount pair
-Paul polished silver moon unit pair
-Panaracer Pasela folding bead (65bx42)
Riv Silver crankset wide low 38/24 170mm arms
-B IQ-XS dyno front light
-B toplight line small tail light
-B bracket for saddle rail for tail light
-Sehdon fender nuts (pair)
-Nitto lamp bracket right side
-XT Cassette 11-32 9 speed
-XT rear derailleur 772 9 speed
-Shimano front derailleur
-Nitto Marks Rack with extended struts
-Grey buckle strap to reinforce mark's rack to handlebars
-Wald medium basket
-Outer Shell Adventures basket bag in ranger green
-Ultegra bar ends
-SRAM chain
-Shimano and jagwire cabling

-Phil
Arlington, VA
- show quoted text -

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 11:03:56 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>
> [image: IMG_20190514_185151.jpg]
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>
>> Pics of when it was built up yesterday
>>
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>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: 54.5 MIT AHH

[phil k]

Some people have asked if I could sell complete. I can sell everything but 
wheels, saddle, and pedals. I can pack everything with my LBS so that you 
will only have to get a wheel set, saddle, pedals, and some tire tubes. I 
can sell the below for $1900 plus bike flights shipping. I'll be getting my 
LBS to pack it so I'll be eating $100 out of pocket.

Here is the rest of the build list:

-MIT AHH frameset, bottom bracket, headset, seatpost
-Nitto Albatross heat treated aluminum handlebars
-Nitto Tallux stem
-Gilles Berthoud leather bar wrap (can include leftover extra)
-Shimano brake levers
-Paul funky monkey front brake hanger
-Nitto Reneherse rinko rear cable hanger
-Paul Racer centermount pair
-Paul polished silver moon unit pair
-Panaracer Pasela folding bead (65bx42)
Riv Silver crankset wide low 38/24 170mm arms
-B IQ-XS dyno front light
-B toplight line small tail light
-B bracket for saddle rail for tail light
-Sehdon fender nuts (pair)
-Nitto lamp bracket right side
-XT Cassette 11-32 9 speed
-XT rear derailleur 772 9 speed
-Shimano front derailleur
-Nitto Marks Rack with extended struts
-Grey buckle strap to reinforce mark's rack to handlebars
-Wald medium basket
-Outer Shell Adventures basket bag in ranger green
-Ultegra bar ends
-SRAM chain
-Shimano and jagwire cabling

-Phil
Arlington, VA

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 11:03:56 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>
> [image: IMG_20190514_185151.jpg]
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 11:03:32 AM UTC-4, phil k wrote:
>>
>> Pics of when it was built up yesterday
>>
>> [image: IMG_20190514_185142.jpg]
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Farmers Daughter Gravel Grinder

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Have fun!!

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[RBW] Re: Farmers Daughter Gravel Grinder

['Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I went last year, lots of mud, lots of fun. My son has a fencing tournament 
Sunday, so I must wait for August and D2R2 to get my gravel event fix.

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[RBW] Re: FS: nitto rbw51 top rack

[Tom Wyland]

This is a Nitto R-14 rack. There's no better rack for an older saddlesack. 
Particularly one with a slot for the tombstone.  I've used one of these for 
many years of commuting.

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[RBW] Re: Farmers Daughter Gravel Grinder

[Wally Estrella]

Have fun, Tim & Co!  Muddy?  Use the Ice Cream Truck!


On Tuesday, May 14, 2019 at 3:20:21 PM UTC-4, Tim Bantham wrote:
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> Anyone in the Northeast planning on riding this event this Sunday? I will 
> be there along with other list members Ben, Spencer and I'm sure others. 
> I'll likely be riding my Hillborne. Come hang out and ride with us Unracer 
> style! I am planning on a shorter version of the official route which 
> avoids the muddy off road sections. 
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[RBW] Re: Fixed gear bike packing

[Nick Payne]

In about 1978, when I was living in Western Australia, a group of us who 
were a bit over just training and racing organised a nine day 1400km cycle 
camping tour. Two of the riders did it on fixed wheel - somewhere around a 
65" gear as I recall. Luckily WA is not a particularly mountainous part of 
the world, and as far as I can remember they managed the hills OK.

Nick

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Re: [RBW] Race Report, Oh My!

[Ed Fausto]

Hi Collin!
Wow! dried up mud :-)
Did you have problems shifting with all that mud on your front and rear
deraileur?

On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 7:02 AM Collin A  wrote:

> Not the typical report that comes from the site, I know, but I think its
> worth mentioning since diversity in thought helps contribute to an
> inclusive group!
>
>
>
> I’ve got a history in racing, but from the side of running, so I’ve always
> had an itch that a race usually scratches, just that sense of competition
> (and the comradery) that can only really develop in a race. Obviously, I
> wasn’t riding for the podium, so it wasn’t cut throat, but instead
> cheerful, friendly and chatty.
>
>
>
> There were quite a few interesting bikes out there. Some retrotechs,
> blackcats, singlespeeds, vintage MTBs, full carbon squish machines, you
> name it, there was a good variety in the group. The people were mostly top
> notch as well, with most speaking out against the hard-ass personalities
> that can sometimes dominate the group during these kinds of events, so it
> was nice to see and hear all sorts of people out enjoying a fun and
> difficult day out on the trails. Still plenty of interesting comments and
> reactions to the ol’ Clem Smith, though, mostly from the single-speeders
> and other rigid bike riders.
>
>
>
> I stripped the bike down to its basics: Two bottles, ½ framebag, no racks
> or basket (wah wah), and even switched out to my racey clip pedals rather
> than my normal flat pedals, but kept the brooks and my safety triangle for
> some flare. Things worked well for the most part, except I had some
> drivetrain problems with friction shifting (hence an update to the advent
> in the last month) and took a wrong turn at one point, whoops. I endo’d
> twice and busted my brake levers and tweaked the front brake in the
> process…did I mention it was muddy and very wet? Needless to say, it was a
> tough course on the bike and the body, but the bike definitely performed
> better than the body.
>
>
>
> Overall it was a great day, I stayed around the middle of the pack and had
> fun with the other riders and the course volunteers and realized that a
> lime-a-rita tastes amazing at the end of a hard race, ha!
>
>
>
> Here are some before and after shots, hopefully it gives you a good idea
> of the level of muddiness that was on the trails that day… (scroll to the
> bottom of the album https://photos.app.goo.gl/JU2uuwp957K5S5H79)
>
>
>
> Enjoy the week everyone!
>
>
>
> Collin in Oakland
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