Re: [RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Patrick, you brute.  Perhaps the major users of the Rinko MKS are not, 
shall we say, as aggressive in their application.  Though the very idea 
that a pedal can come off without a pedal wrench is so enticing.  

Steve Seelig

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 8:39:16 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> One lad's (my) experience with the Rinko MKS Urban pedals is that within a 
> few months of fixed gear mountain riding I destroyed the attachment bearing 
> so there a large amount of play in the pedal. Standard MKS Urban pedals 
> have held up to a considerable amount of abuse and I am using them on my 
> Gus Boots Willsen as adventure pedals (with MKS toe cage). At least for the 
> riding and torque I love my pedals with, I would just remove my pedals if 
> needed via the allen wrench. Quick, easy, painless. (Worth noting: MKS was 
> great on replacing the pedals ... excellent customer service!).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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Re: [RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

One lad's (my) experience with the Rinko MKS Urban pedals is that within a few 
months of fixed gear mountain riding I destroyed the attachment bearing so 
there a large amount of play in the pedal. Standard MKS Urban pedals have held 
up to a considerable amount of abuse and I am using them on my Gus Boots 
Willsen as adventure pedals (with MKS toe cage). At least for the riding and 
torque I love my pedals with, I would just remove my pedals if needed via the 
allen wrench. Quick, easy, painless. (Worth noting: MKS was great on replacing 
the pedals ... excellent customer service!).

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] Re: Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 8:58:43 AM UTC-7, Sean Kline wrote:
>
> I, too, have been wondering about Rinkoing my Sam.  If you’re flying, 
> don’t you still need a hardshell to protect a Rinkoed bike?
>

I'll be wary of applying what is essentially a Japanese technique to a 
foreign environment, without due consideration. I'm not saying it won't 
work, but I don't know if the US or European luggage handlers will know 
what a Rinko'ed bike is and treat it with appropriate care, especially if 
one uses the proper Rinko bag that are unlined. There must be some reason 
US and European accessory manufacturer seem to offer mostly rigid or 
structured bicycle carriers.

As for making bikes easier to pack, if one is insistent on brifters, one 
can save a little bit of time and effort using eTap. I realize this is the 
RBW Owners Bunch Google group, but getting rid of the cables that require 
spot-on adjustment (i.e., not brake cables) will make the process 
straightforward and quicker. The drawback is you'll be limited to 1 or 2 in 
the front, and 11 or 12 in the back, which may or may not be OK for your 
intended use.

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Re: [RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

['Steven Seelig' via RBW Owners Bunch]

As OP, it is so cool what happens when you spend time away from the 
keyboard.  The goal here is to walk on with the bike, stuff it in the front 
part of the car on the top shelf, get off the train and ride away.  So no 
bike box.

I'm familiar with Amtrak east coast bike transit, and they are very fussy 
about which trains can load bikes.  It is basically the through trains like 
the Vermonter that have a bike car that is combined with the baggage car, 
so it you do it once a year like Bob K, and plan way in advance, it works. 
And those trains have odd hours and at most 4 bikes per train.  Most trains 
don't have em.  Hence the question.  I will say that if you want to take a 
train to Baltimore from DC, every MARC train now has bike hangers, probably 
much like on the West Coaster.  Baltimore is great, "prettiest place on 
earth", but I want more (pun sorta).  Check out Streets of Baltimore 
 by Gram Parsons.  So sad.

Bromptons are great.  We rented them in London - got em out of a box at the 
train station.  But I am at bike limit with wife and all.  To digress, when 
I told her I was getting a tandem bike for me and junior, she fatefully 
asked me the wrong question: "where will you put it."  "the garage has 
plenty of room," I said, and "you only get one question and you neglected 
to ask if I really need another bike."  She probably won't make the same 
mistake twice.

Steve P, right you are about the fender issue.  I'd need to get rid of the 
plastic SKS and get metal ones.  I have the cable disconnects on my S 
bike and like those fine.  They never seem to get out of tune for shifting 
and brakes are less finicky and work.  

Sounds like the major investment would be the headset and the removable 
pedals - thanks for the resource recommendations on those that I am 
checking out now.  Great to have so much knowledge (and opinions) in one 
spot.

Steve Seelig



On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 7:10:01 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Wow, Ana! Fantastic. Tips for convincing them to let me do this should I 
> ever need it?
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>

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Re: [RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

['Deacon Patrick' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Wow, Ana! Fantastic. Tips for convincing them to let me do this should I ever 
need it?

With abandon,
Patrick

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[RBW] FS: Shimano 11sp cassette, XT 11-42

[Joe Bunik]

Hi gang

Further adventures in gear tinkering have left me with an extra
cassette, an M8000 Deore XT 11-42t in good, clean condition (although
the lockring has some scuffage). This will fit onto standard "8/9/10"
era freehubs.

Give or take on the philosophical question of an 11t cog, I really do
like the overall spread on these in modern 1x11 speed setups. I've run
this cassette interchangeably on both Sram Apex-1 and
Shimano-drivetrained bikes. But, being in a situation of "5 (11sp)
cassettes, 3 wheels" here, one of these extras should probably go.
Until I need it back ;-)

$55 shipped CONUS, just LMK - thanks!
=- Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA

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Re: [RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

[Ana Candela]

I don’t pack my bike for bus travel; I just slide it in. A few examples:
https://instagram.com/p/BY2c7DjjJ3q/
https://instagram.com/p/BomgspMBEZ4/
https://instagram.com/p/BonNCYThyeG/

More examples of trains, buses, cars: #multimodaltraveling

-Ana

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[RBW] Re: Who Blugs a Ride?

[Joe Bernard]

Based on my trying way too hard to figure this out - I like figuring stuff out! 
- 29er Rocket Rons come in 54 and 57mm and that picture looks like the 57mm 
Racing Ralphs on my Haibike...57 it is! Maybe! 

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[RBW] Re: FS: 68 CM Rambouillet Frame/Fork/HS

[Fullylugged]

The Spec sheet for Ram is 35mm with fenders or 38mm without.  I have 38s on 
mine now.

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[RBW] Re: FS: 68 CM Rambouillet Frame/Fork/HS

[Julian Westerhout]

Kobe, 

It would easily take 35s. 

Julian. 


On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 3:03:02 PM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> Kobe, 
>
> I was running Compass 32s on this with plenty of clearance. 
>
> Julian. 
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-5, kobe wrote:
>>
>>
>> I wish this came up 2 months ago, unfortunately I have a Gunnar inbound.
>>
>> But who knows, maybe I can clear some room. Is the max tire size on the 
>> Ram a 28?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 68 CM Rambouillet Frame/Fork/HS

[Julian Westerhout]

Kobe, 

I was running Compass 32s on this with plenty of clearance. 

Julian. 




On Saturday, May 25, 2019 at 1:45:41 PM UTC-5, kobe wrote:
>
>
> I wish this came up 2 months ago, unfortunately I have a Gunnar inbound.
>
> But who knows, maybe I can clear some room. Is the max tire size on the 
> Ram a 28?
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 68 CM Rambouillet Frame/Fork/HS

['kobe' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I wish this came up 2 months ago, unfortunately I have a Gunnar inbound.

But who knows, maybe I can clear some room. Is the max tire size on the Ram 
a 28?

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Re: [RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

[Steve Palincsar]

On 5/25/19 1:57 PM, Ana Candela wrote:

Hi Steve,

I love traveling by train, but next week I’m headed to Portland and chose the 
bus instead: while less comfortable than the train, it’s cheaper, more frequent 
departures, no bike surcharge, and my bike slides sideways in the baggage 
compartment below.



How do you pack your bike for bus travel?

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Alexandria, Virginia
USA

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[RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

[Ana Candela]

Hi Steve,

I did a home practice a while ago but have not applied it yet out there in the 
field. Check out my IG post: https://instagram.com/p/BfcuunNDPHe/. This is not 
quite Rinko because I had my bike fully disassembled while servicing. Also 
check hashtags #rinkobike and #rinkobag for others' posts. I’m doing another 
test later today or tomorrow while servicing my bike and will surely posts more 
pics.

About Amtrak: I’ve had good experiences, but also very bad ones. Twice I’ve 
come to find my bike dropped on the floor —with the corresponding scruffs >:-( 
Thankfully no dings though.
A few things to consider: there are limited spots; check if there’s a surcharge 
in your area; here in the NW it’s $5 each way, hey, but you can check two 50-lb 
suitcases for free! You must unload all your bags and panniers from it: once 
they made me unnattach my EMPTY saddlesack! Another time I came to find out a 
passenger sleeping in the luggage compartment! And lastly, this is a personal 
preference, I don’t like the idea of my bike hanging from a hook with all the 
weight on a small spot of the rim. Sorry to sound so bitter about it, YMMV.

I love traveling by train, but next week I’m headed to Portland and chose the 
bus instead: while less comfortable than the train, it’s cheaper, more frequent 
departures, no bike surcharge, and my bike slides sideways in the baggage 
compartment below.

Have fun with rinkoing your bike! The link posted by Ed above is a great 
resource, and there’s a more recent article on it in BQ #67 p. 24 for extra 
Rinko indulgence ;)

-Ana

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[RBW] FS: 68 CM Rambouillet Frame/Fork/HS

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I want this frame! Unfortunately it's too beautiful for my wallet, even at this 
low low price (wallet egregiously depleted by children end replacement 
drivetrain parts). Thanks for sharing it with the world
-Kai

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[RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

[Bob K.]

I take the Vermonter train from Brattleboro to Baltimore every summer after my 
annual VT bikepacking jaunt. I always use the roll-on service. First year I 
even squeezed my Troll’s 26x3” tires (barely) with minimal deflation in the 
hook. Sidenote: Packed the frame bag with about 24 beers that are available in 
VT and nowhere else. When I got off the train, the ride home was a bit harder 
than it would’ve been without the beers, but I was pretty satisfied a couple 
hours later.

I digress, but in sum: I highly recommend Amtrak’s roll-on service.

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

[Sean Kline]

I, too, have been wondering about Rinkoing my Sam.  If you’re flying, don’t you 
still need a hardshell to protect a Rinkoed bike?

Bill: re: Santa Barbara train adventure, now you just reserve a bike space when 
purchasing your train ticket and hand your bike to a baggage handler before 
boarding the Coast Starlight in Santa Barbara. No box needed, but also no roll 
on service (like the Capitol Corridor). I’m biking Ventura-Ojai-Santa Barbara 
next weekend before training back to Emeryville.

Sean

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[RBW] Re: New to me Appaloosa Joe!

[Lester Lammers]

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019 at 9:42:00 PM UTC-4, Nick Morehouse wrote:
>
> Re-posting because I typo'd Rivendelland I'm a little OCD lol.
>
> After over 7 years of following Rivendell, and spending countless hours on 
> this site, and any other that is even remotely related to Riv and Rivish 
> biking culture, I finally found myself in a position last month to purchase 
> my first true Riv (no offense meant to Marco the San Marcos).  One morning 
> while drinking my coffee before work, I stumbled upon a new post of a Local 
> Joe Appaloosa--in my size--in my favorite Joe color--and at a fair price! 
> So, after a couple days of worrying about my wife killing me, I went ahead 
> and made the plunge! AJ (short for Appaloosa Joe, which sounds to me like a 
> GREAT cowboy name!) somehow manages to take smoothness of the San Marcos, 
> and make it even smoother.  Standing next to each other you can see how 
> much longer AJ is!
>
>
> After the purchase I sadly had to Sell Marco.  He went on quiet a journey 
> however and landed with another Group member all the way in Spokane 
> Washington!  Shortly after the purchase I had to travel for a while so AJ 
> and I are still getting aquainted, we have been on several 3-5 mile rides 
> around the neighborhood with the family, but over the weekend I finally 
> took him out to stretch his legs...or chainstaysor wheels maybe?  
> Anyway, it was a perfect evening, and a perfect ride.  I really enjoy how 
> AJ makes me relax my pace and enjoy the scenery and the sensation of using 
> one of mankinds greatest inventions.
>
> I did ride about 5 miles of pretty rough gravel that really had me wanting 
> to get some wider tires on there pronto, but it was worth it to sit by the 
> lake for few minutes.
>
>
> Finally as the sun crept through the trees we started heading back home. 
> Hopefully I will have many more adventures to post on here in the coming 
> months!
>
> -Nick
>

I have a 53 cm MIT Atlantis and feel the same way. It is the most 
comfortable bike I have ever owned.

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[RBW] Re: Who Blugs a Ride?

[jandrews]

I knew I could count on you Joe!
No other tire sleuths able to tell tell the ETRTO on those tires?



On Thursday, May 23, 2019 at 8:39:14 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The rims look like the Cliffhangers on my MIT Atlantis. 

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[RBW] Re: Has Anyone Rinko'd Their Riv? - Follow Up on Yesterday's Rivendell Email

[Bob B]

Hey Steve,

Bill is right -- there's no need to Rinko to get to NYC via Amtrak.

I did the opposite trip, from here in NYC down to DC a few years ago, the 
rode to Pittsburg via C/GAP. I called and there are particular trains 
(usually a few per day) that have a storage car for bikes. Fully assembled, 
I even had some bags on it, it was no problem.

That said, to Rinko your bike would be great for other trips and uses

Bob B
Brooklyn, NY

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