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[RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-22 Thread Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!

I have been waiting for these posts! I have been living vicariously through 
dear, sweet Roberta, who has been funneling pictures and texts and emails to me 
so I can be included from exile here in Vegas (and I see Kai has been starting 
rumors about me - definitely not true, but I do aspire to rise to them ! ). 

You guys look great, your bikes look lovely and it’s true that it looks more 
like a reunion than a meet. Riv people are the nicest people. Did anyone get to 
ask Rachel about her rad daughter with the Tolkien-themed Atlantis? I’ve often 
wondered how that pair is getting along;  I’m sure they’ve  had many adventures 
by now. 

Don’t be shy about posting your tales and photos here - we love them! So glad 
you all had a wonderful time!

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[RBW] Re: Used Hillborne value

2019-09-22 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY

I was trying for $800 for my MUSA canti 64 with no luck, ended up with $400 
for it. 
I'll never sell another bike... 
-Kai


On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 7:15:32 PM UTC-4, Keith Swanson wrote:
>
> I have one of the early green Sam Hillbornes which is slightly big for me 
> and am planning to sell the frame to fund an Appaloosa.  I was wondering 
> what a fair price would be or if it would be better to seek a trade.  It's 
> a 52 in excellent condition.  Any thoughts on this?
>

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[RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-22 Thread Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY

It was awesome! I left the house at 4:30 after just enough sleep and caught 
a couple trains to meet Roberta in NJ for a pleasant drive up to 
Minnewaska. We talked of Vegas (but not too much, what with the what 
happens in Vegas stays rule (though it's not so secret, so I'll whisper 
it... Leah's way cool)), great quotes from the rivlist, and art in Rocky 
Philadelphia. Stopped and filled up on maps and water at the Mohonk 
visitors center and happily drove up Cardiac Hill to meet the crew. Got 
called out by rangers for no helmet (putted it right on my head, little 
sweat, thanks for the warning Mark) and I took some, but never enough, 
pictures- https://photos.app.goo.gl/zKPe5qjBMy3CKoWb9
#26 at Queen's Kissena Velodrome? anybody?
-Kai

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[RBW] Used Hillborne value

2019-09-22 Thread Jonathan D.

My guess $600-800. 

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[RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-22 Thread Austin B.

I really like seeing these pics of the East Coast RBW meetup this weekend. 
Looks like some fun riding with nice views and makes me want to get out on 
my Sam. There's pretty good riding here in MD but not so much with long 
distance vistas at elevation.

Austin


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[RBW] Used Hillborne value

2019-09-22 Thread Bob K.

As others will also tell you, your best bet is to peruse the list’s archives 
(and maybe some eBay sold listings) to determine value, give it a price point 
you can live with, and make a FS posting with plenty of info and pictures.

Good luck!

Bob K. in Baltimore

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[RBW] Re: Selling a frame

2019-09-22 Thread John Aydelotte

It's gone, folks!  That was quick, but thanks for all the interest!

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 7:50:27 PM UTC-6, John Aydelotte wrote:
>
> Question for the group:
>
> After 10+ years, I have decided to part with my Atlantis.  Many reasons, 
> most of which I won't go into here, but this 56cm frame has always been 
> JUST a bit too small for me.  I recently rode a bicycle which fit like a 
> glove and realized what I'd been missing.
>
> Here's the question.  Many of the parts are worn - I have ridden the heck 
> out of this thing for years, as a commuter, randonneur, utility bike...you 
> name it.  I'm keeping the racks, moving the wheels to other bikes.  So this 
> is just a frame.  Should I paint and sell, or sell as-is?
>
> This frame has a fair amount of what Grant calls "beausage".  Scratches, 
> surface rust, nicks, rubs, etc...  No significant damage.  The 
> perfectionist in me wants to send it to Riv, have them paint it, and then 
> sell.  My practical side thinks I won't recoup the cost in the final 
> price.  Someone may not care about the wear-and-tear and may even want to 
> paint it a different color.
>
> What's the group consensus - sell as-is, or get it showroom-ready?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Used Hillborne value

2019-09-22 Thread 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch

I have one of the early green Sam Hillbornes which is slightly big for me 
and am planning to sell the frame to fund an Appaloosa.  I was wondering 
what a fair price would be or if it would be better to seek a trade.  It's 
a 52 in excellent condition.  Any thoughts on this?

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-22 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck

I just posted some pics on Instagram:

https://www.instagram.com/p/B2uys8fF7Un/

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-22 Thread Joe Bernard

Yup, I think the future for Riv is in fillet frames with a seat lug. I'm ok 
with this, but I say so as a guy getting a fully lugged custom. I'm making sure 
I get my lugs now! 

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[RBW] Re: Selling a frame

2019-09-22 Thread John Aydelotte

I'll have to work out how much to ship it, but I'll ask $750 for the frame, 
fork & headset as shown in the pictures.

And this is definitely a 26" wheel bike. 

Thanks everybody for the feedback.

John

On Tuesday, September 17, 2019 at 7:50:27 PM UTC-6, John Aydelotte wrote:
>
> Question for the group:
>
> After 10+ years, I have decided to part with my Atlantis.  Many reasons, 
> most of which I won't go into here, but this 56cm frame has always been 
> JUST a bit too small for me.  I recently rode a bicycle which fit like a 
> glove and realized what I'd been missing.
>
> Here's the question.  Many of the parts are worn - I have ridden the heck 
> out of this thing for years, as a commuter, randonneur, utility bike...you 
> name it.  I'm keeping the racks, moving the wheels to other bikes.  So this 
> is just a frame.  Should I paint and sell, or sell as-is?
>
> This frame has a fair amount of what Grant calls "beausage".  Scratches, 
> surface rust, nicks, rubs, etc...  No significant damage.  The 
> perfectionist in me wants to send it to Riv, have them paint it, and then 
> sell.  My practical side thinks I won't recoup the cost in the final 
> price.  Someone may not care about the wear-and-tear and may even want to 
> paint it a different color.
>
> What's the group consensus - sell as-is, or get it showroom-ready?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> John
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Selling a frame

2019-09-22 Thread Chris L

If the 26" version of the 56cm Atlantis had about three extra cm of 
effective top tube, I would be all over that.  That would be close to my 
grail bike. 



On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 3:05:43 PM UTC-5, George Schick wrote:
>
> Joe - that's a good question and it will be interesting to see what the OP 
> has to say about it.  In the meanwhile, however, here is a geometry chart 
> from Riv that shows the Atlantis was made to be set up with either 700c or 
> 26" wheels, the break between the two being at 56cm, which is listed as 26" 
> w/ a 2.35" max tire width: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html
>
> Apart from that, I have to say that I've run into many riders over the 
> years who covet the Atlantis and would love to have one, but balk at the 
> price.  If this is listed as-is in the price range recommended by posters 
> thus far, you should have no problem selling it.  
>
> On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:15:31 AM UTC-5, Joe S wrote:
>>
>> 700c or 650b?
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 5:14 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, you oversold the damage by a lot. Sure, it could use new paint 
>>> someday, but as is it would make a great town and dirt bomber without the 
>>> dreaded "hope I don't scratch it" anxiety. Somebody buy this!
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-22 Thread Steve Palincsar

Especially when they have to develop a new lug set for the bike.  Of 
course, what with their lug maker leaving the business and the MIT 
frames, there may be less of that in future.


On 9/22/19 9:26 AM, Austin B. wrote:


I don't have any familiarity with product development costs in the 
bike industry, but have to think there are significant expenses w/r/t 
prototyping and setting up production. It seems they do it way more 
often than is necessary.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Selling a frame

2019-09-22 Thread George Schick

Joe - that's a good question and it will be interesting to see what the OP 
has to say about it.  In the meanwhile, however, here is a geometry chart 
from Riv that shows the Atlantis was made to be set up with either 700c or 
26" wheels, the break between the two being at 56cm, which is listed as 26" 
w/ a 2.35" max tire width: http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/geometry.html

Apart from that, I have to say that I've run into many riders over the 
years who covet the Atlantis and would love to have one, but balk at the 
price.  If this is listed as-is in the price range recommended by posters 
thus far, you should have no problem selling it.  

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 11:15:31 AM UTC-5, Joe S wrote:
>
> 700c or 650b?
>
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 5:14 PM Joe Bernard  > wrote:
>
>> Oh, you oversold the damage by a lot. Sure, it could use new paint 
>> someday, but as is it would make a great town and dirt bomber without the 
>> dreaded "hope I don't scratch it" anxiety. Somebody buy this!
>>
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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-22 Thread Dorothy C

According to Austin’s chart I have a good selection - a Noodle bar Roadini, a 
Cheviot with Chocos and an Appaloosa that I have just put Bullmoose bars on. My 
low end, can carry medium loads bike is an old Scott aluminum hybrid that I 
rebuilt with a Velocity wheelset and Riv drivetrain for a much improved ride. 
It is a 700c wheel bike, and I would prefer a 650b but Riv don’t have anything 
that wouldn’t be too much of an overlap with my Cheviot at the moment. 

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-22 Thread Joe Bernard

I don't see a difference between core products and niche as it concerns frames 
with Riv: They're too small for the whole thing to not be a niche. Within that 
niche I perceive RBW bikes as analogous to Harley-Davidson, where you have a 
base idea of what the bike should be, then build various iterations of this 
theme over the years. 

I'm not confused by Riv's bike models because I understand they're not intended 
to be drastically different things. 

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-22 Thread The Snag

Sounds like Austin nailed it with his empty slot there

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-22 Thread finny

I would love to see that group shot !

well any of the photos...i am thinking when the mean winds and snow are
blowing, it will be nice to look at the pictures and think of warm times
with old and new friends.

Spencer, working today but wishing I was with all you guys exploring the
byways

On 22/09/2019 1:06 pm, fi...@gtel.net wrote:

Mark,

great photos!!! It was good to ride with youo!

lets do it again sometime

On 22/09/2019 7:32 am, Mark Roland wrote:

I could not agree more! Thanks Adam, Alex, Ben, Bob, Brad, Chris, Gerard, Janie, Joe, John, Josh, Kai, Paul, Rachel, Roberta, and our most excellent ride leader, Spencer! Everyone contributed to making it a special day. There was some matter of fact Rivendell bike admiration (and oh, my, the luggage!), but the main focus was a day on the wheel with others who shared an appreciation for the beauty, comfort, and usefulness of these bikes. I was impressed with our skills riding as a group on carriage roads that had plenty of fast downhill turns with loose gravel, and were sprinkled with hikers, bikers, and dogs. Our big group navigated the whole day as if we had been riding together for years. Chapeau. A day to remember.

--Mark (currently Rivless and awaiting a chance for a Clem L frameset I can adorn with the parts from my original Clementine but wore half my Riv wardrobe and had my (practically vintage!) Baggins bag and brought my Just Ride Mindset!;^)

I did not take many pics as there were shutterbugs with much more firepower than my phone, but here's what I do have: https://photos.app.goo.gl/rTHJbwiui35oZ4zh6
On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 8:11:08 PM UTC-4, spencer robinson wrote:

It was so good to meet everyone!

I posted some pics on the instagram and I will try to post some here...maybe tomorrow.

I had a GREAT time

On 21/09/2019 8:01 pm, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
Agreed!

It was nice meeting you, Kai, and everyone else! Superb ride, weather, and people! I'll have some of my pics up soon.

(Relaxing on the train with a sunset view of the Hudson is a nice way to end the day!)

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 7:52:40 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote: That was time well spent. Thanks everybody! (More pictures to follow, posting from train..)
-Kai

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Re: [RBW] Re: Selling a frame

2019-09-22 Thread Drw

Yeah that paint is fine/expected. Should be no problem to sell.

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-22 Thread finny

Mark,

great photos!!! It was good to ride with youo!

lets do it again sometime

On 22/09/2019 7:32 am, Mark Roland wrote:

It was so good to meet everyone!

I posted some pics on the instagram and I will try to post some here...maybe tomorrow.

I had a GREAT time

On 21/09/2019 8:01 pm, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
Agreed!

It was nice meeting you, Kai, and everyone else! Superb ride, weather, and people! I'll have some of my pics up soon.

(Relaxing on the train with a sunset view of the Hudson is a nice way to end the day!)

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 7:52:40 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY wrote: That was time well spent. Thanks everybody! (More pictures to follow, posting from train..)
-Kai

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Splats for sale

2019-09-22 Thread Matt C.

Steve,

I sent you a message yesterday. Let me know if you didn't get it. 

Matt Cook in CT 

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[RBW] Google Groups Glitch - Admin Update

2019-09-22 Thread Jim Edgar

Hey there -

Just a heads up that for the past week or so, Google Groups was sending me
a minimum of 4 and sometimes upwards of a dozen copies for every potential
post to the moderation queue. That means if you are moderated, I found many
copies of your post. Wednesday morning, for example, there were north of 75
posts which seemed to be from only 5 or 6 attempts. It seems to have
lessened in the last couple days, so I'm hopeful the fine folks in Mountain
View have fixed this.

It was also generating them out of order - so I'd see a couple identical
ones, then a few from someone else, then one that _seemed_ like the one I
had read a moment ago. Which meant I had to jump over to the list to
confirm the earlier one had gone through before deleting the others. This
was fun for the first day, but got a bit overwhelming.

What I did: For the fortunate few whose posts didn't
double-treble-quadruple (or so) tap, I pushed those through if they were on
topic (meaning they were NOT sending contact information for a sale - those
should be messaged directly to the posting party, not to the list at
large). For most of them, they were deleted. (FWIW, it does seem that a
lot of newer/moderated list members are not direct messaging sellers of
items - there has been an increase in "...is this still for sale?" post
attempts.)

Which means: if you made an exceptionally salient post, and you don't see
it on the group threads, then you should try again. If you are trying to
coordinate a purchase from an individual, you should do that via direct
message with that person.

Thanks!

- Jim / list admin

Re: [RBW] Re: Selling a frame

2019-09-22 Thread Joe S

700c or 650b?

On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 5:14 PM Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Oh, you oversold the damage by a lot. Sure, it could use new paint
> someday, but as is it would make a great town and dirt bomber without the
> dreaded "hope I don't scratch it" anxiety. Somebody buy this!
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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-22 Thread 'Keith Swanson' via RBW Owners Bunch

I asked Grant about the Charlie H Gallop yesterday and he was happy to 
answer any questions about it, saying that it would be a blend of Roadini 
and Clem, sold as a complete bike.  

On Wednesday, September 11, 2019 at 5:18:23 PM UTC-7, John G. wrote:
>
> The September email update teases a new bike: the Charlie H Gallop. 
> PREDICTIONS! GO!
>
> Mine: MIT lugged road-ish bike with Cantis. 650B even at the largest size. 
> Level top tube, but fewer size options.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Helmets (again)

2019-09-22 Thread Eric Floden

Agreed on flashing lights. I only ever use them at low setting, on low
light DAY rides. Example, riding under trees on cloudy day.

But at all but lowest setting they can be blinding and disorienting.

EricF
Not riding yet this day due to rains
Golden Lake Ont

On Sun, Sep 22, 2019, 09:16 John A. Bennett  wrote:

> If you wear a helmet, please do your fellow cyclists a favor and *don't *mount
> one of those blinding flashing strobe lights to the front of it.
>
> They don't help you see, and they disorient the rest of us.
>
> In fact, please don't mount blinding strobe lights to your bicycle,
> either.
>
> John in Portland, Ore.
>
> On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 7:18:20 AM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>> I certainly do not want to start (another) helmet war, however I recently
>> stumbled on an interesting article in the Washington Post about helmets and
>> cycling injuries
>>
>> Only 22 percent of bicyclists in severe accidents were wearing helmets.
>> 
>>
>> The story is rather short, but this is the key line to me:
>>
>> "Bicyclists who were wearing helmets when accidents occurred generally
>> had less severe injuries, spent less time hospitalized, including shorter
>> stays in intensive care, and were less likely to have died as a result of
>> the accident, according to researchers’ analysis of the data
>> ,
>> published in the journal Brain Injury."
>>
>> Sean
>> Buffalo, NY
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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-22 Thread Austin B.

Fullylugged wrote: "They usually kill off their best sellers in order to
produce something more obscure that only the true faithful will find
desirable."

This is where I find myself scratching my head. I don't work in the bike
industry, but I do work in product and have marketing experience. I have
long struggled to see how RBW segments their product lineup. To make sense
of it, this is how I segment their lineup in my own mind:

[image: RBW segmentation.jpg]
This only accounts for what they currently have on their frames page. It
excludes recent bikes like the Appaloosa, Hunqapillar & GBW (all are burly,
wide-tired, offroad touring frame and would be with the Atlantis on this
chart).

In the way I do the segmentation, a gap exists in lower priced mixed
terrain box. This used to be held by the Sam Hillborne before the AHH and
Atlantis went MIT, but now the Sam is at the same price point as the AHH.
So maybe the Gallop will fill this need? We'll see. Grant's no dummy and I
have to think they have a segmentation strategy--I just am not seeing it.
And with so many products that have a lifespan of just a couple years, it
seems (as Fullylugged suggests) that they have bikes which are "more
obscure that only the true faithful will find desirable."

I don't have any familiarity with product development costs in the bike
industry, but have to think there are significant expenses w/r/t
prototyping and setting up production. It seems they do it way more often
than is necessary. I'd really like to see RBW hang on another 25 years--but
given their recent financial struggles, maybe they should focus on the core
products for awhile and move away from the niche ones.

[RBW] Re: Helmets (again)

2019-09-22 Thread John A. Bennett

If you wear a helmet, please do your fellow cyclists a favor and *don't *mount 
one of those blinding flashing strobe lights to the front of it. 

They don't help you see, and they disorient the rest of us. 

In fact, please don't mount blinding strobe lights to your bicycle, either. 

John in Portland, Ore. 

On Wednesday, September 18, 2019 at 7:18:20 AM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>
> I certainly do not want to start (another) helmet war, however I recently 
> stumbled on an interesting article in the Washington Post about helmets and 
> cycling injuries
>
> Only 22 percent of bicyclists in severe accidents were wearing helmets. 
> 
>
> The story is rather short, but this is the key line to me:
>
> "Bicyclists who were wearing helmets when accidents occurred generally had 
> less severe injuries, spent less time hospitalized, including shorter stays 
> in intensive care, and were less likely to have died as a result of the 
> accident, according to researchers’ analysis of the data 
> , 
> published in the journal Brain Injury."
>
> Sean
> Buffalo, NY
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-22 Thread Tim Bantham

Hey everyone, Glad you all had a good day. The weather was perfect and that 
part of New York is beautiful. I see that you climbed up to the top to get 
the view. I wish I could have made it but alas I was returning home from 
Maine. Well done to all of the organizers! Hoping to see some of you at the 
Nutmeg Nor'Easter!

On Sunday, September 22, 2019 at 7:32:13 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> I could not agree more! Thanks Adam, Alex, Ben, Bob, Brad, Chris, Gerard, 
> Janie, Joe, John, Josh, Kai, Paul, Rachel, Roberta, and our most excellent 
> ride leader, Spencer! Everyone contributed to making it a special day. 
> There was some matter of fact Rivendell bike admiration (and oh, my, the 
> luggage!), but the main focus was a day on the wheel with others who shared 
> an appreciation for the beauty, comfort, and usefulness of these bikes. I 
> was impressed with our skills riding as a group on carriage roads that had 
> plenty of fast downhill turns with loose gravel, and were sprinkled with 
> hikers, bikers, and dogs. Our big group navigated the whole day as if we 
> had been riding together for years. Chapeau. A day to remember.
>
> --Mark (currently Rivless and awaiting a chance for a Clem L frameset I 
> can adorn with the parts from my original Clementine but wore half my Riv 
> wardrobe and had my (practically vintage!) Baggins bag and brought my Just 
> Ride Mindset!;^)
>
> I did not take many pics as there were shutterbugs with much more 
> firepower than my phone, but here's what I do have:  
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/rTHJbwiui35oZ4zh6
>
> On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 8:11:08 PM UTC-4, spencer robinson 
> wrote:
>>
>> It was so good to meet everyone!
>>
>> I posted some pics on the instagram and I will try to post some 
>> here...maybe tomorrow.
>>
>> I had a GREAT time
>>  
>>
>>
>> On 21/09/2019 8:01 pm, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>>
>> Agreed! 
>>  
>> It was nice meeting you, Kai, and everyone else! Superb ride, weather, 
>> and people! I'll have some of my pics up soon. 
>>  
>> (Relaxing on the train with a sunset view of the Hudson is a nice way to 
>> end the day!)
>>  
>> Bob E
>> Cranford, NJ
>>  
>>
>> On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 7:52:40 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>> NY wrote: 
>>>
>>> That was time well spent. Thanks everybody! (More pictures to follow, 
>>> posting from train..) 
>>> -Kai 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-22 Thread Fullylugged

Bill Lindsay wrote: "I think Rivendell miscalculated what many people want."   
This happens ALL THE TIME.   RBW makes bikes that GP thinks are "smart", 
"interesting", "useful" or somehow cooler than what the riding public actually 
wants. They usually kill off their best sellers in order to produce something 
more obscure that only the true faithful will find desireable. I have always 
told people, if you see someting at Riv you like, buy it now. It likely will 
not be there later. For a 25 year old outfit, the list of discontinued models 
is long.

Fully lugged and happy to be that way :)

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Re: [RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-22 Thread Mark Roland

I could not agree more! Thanks Adam, Alex, Ben, Bob, Brad, Chris, Gerard, 
Janie, Joe, John, Josh, Kai, Paul, Rachel, Roberta, and our most excellent 
ride leader, Spencer! Everyone contributed to making it a special day. 
There was some matter of fact Rivendell bike admiration (and oh, my, the 
luggage!), but the main focus was a day on the wheel with others who shared 
an appreciation for the beauty, comfort, and usefulness of these bikes. I 
was impressed with our skills riding as a group on carriage roads that had 
plenty of fast downhill turns with loose gravel, and were sprinkled with 
hikers, bikers, and dogs. Our big group navigated the whole day as if we 
had been riding together for years. Chapeau. A day to remember.

--Mark (currently Rivless and awaiting a chance for a Clem L frameset I can 
adorn with the parts from my original Clementine but wore half my Riv 
wardrobe and had my (practically vintage!) Baggins bag and brought my Just 
Ride Mindset!;^)

I did not take many pics as there were shutterbugs with much more firepower 
than my phone, but here's what I do have:  
https://photos.app.goo.gl/rTHJbwiui35oZ4zh6

On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 8:11:08 PM UTC-4, spencer robinson wrote:
>
> It was so good to meet everyone!
>
> I posted some pics on the instagram and I will try to post some 
> here...maybe tomorrow.
>
> I had a GREAT time
>  
>
>
> On 21/09/2019 8:01 pm, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Agreed! 
>  
> It was nice meeting you, Kai, and everyone else! Superb ride, weather, and 
> people! I'll have some of my pics up soon. 
>  
> (Relaxing on the train with a sunset view of the Hudson is a nice way to 
> end the day!)
>  
> Bob E
> Cranford, NJ
>  
>
> On Saturday, September 21, 2019 at 7:52:40 PM UTC-4, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
> NY wrote: 
>>
>> That was time well spent. Thanks everybody! (More pictures to follow, 
>> posting from train..) 
>> -Kai 
>
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[RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

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