[RBW] Re: Hollowtech Homer

2019-09-24 Thread Ed Carolipio
The Hollowtech II bottom bracket is a class of external ball bearing bottom 
brackets. The Hollowtechs have the advantage of being able to run a hollow 
and larger diameter crank axle: more axle strength with a comparable or 
lower weight than a square taper BB while still being compatible with 
standard BSC/ISO/English threaded bottom bracket shells. The disadvantages 
are the ball bearings are smaller and the large, exposed seals that could 
fail prematurely, taking the bearings with them.


> When I built up the Homer, the M590 bottom bracket specified a spacer 
combination to make it MTB spacing (73mm, 50mm chainline), and again the 
road derailleur was struggling.  In this case I rearranged spacers to move 
the entire BB and crank 3mm left to solve the chainline problem.

The chainline for the FD-3030 is 45mm (
https://bike.shimano.com/en-EU/product/component/sora-r3000/FD-R3030-F.html) 
so you moving the chainline to 47mm moved the front rings closer in line 
with its intended use. The chainline on external bearing bottom brackets 
are adjusted just as you did, by moving spacers between the drive- and the 
non-drive sides of the bottom bracket, and works fine as long as your small 
ring still clears your chainstay.

Also, note that the FD-3030 is spec'ced at 20T capacity (the largest and 
smallest rings can't differ by more than 20 teeth) and the differential 
between top and middle rings can't exceed 11T. All options for the stock 
M590 crankset (
http://media.canyon.com/download/manuals/Manual_FC-M590_EN.pdf) come with a 
22T differential and a top-to-middle differential of 12T. Maybe that's why 
you're having front shifting problems? If so, Jeremy's suggestion with 
replacing the Sora with an M590/M591 FD (
https://www.bike-components.de/en/Shimano/Deore-FD-M590-FD-M591-66-69-3-9-speed-Front-Derailleur-p22104/)
 
with its 22T capacity and 12T top-to-middle differential could fix that.


> The latest Shimano Deore stuff seems to be heading towards 10-speed and 
175mm crank arm length. Rivs don’t like a 175mm crank due to the low bottom 
bracket, so I’m stuck with 170mm.  

170mm is my preferred crank length and I have no problems finding one for 
any of the "modern" drivetrains. I think if you prefer 165mm or 180mm, that 
may be a bit more challenging.

For many offroad, non-MTB applications, the "adventure compact double" 
46T-30T paired with a wide range rear cassette (11T-34T on my Ultegra 6800; 
11T-42T coming up more often with off-the-shelf RDs) is the preferred 
choice for gearing. Here's Russ from Path Less Pedaled on gearing for mixed 
terrain gravel riding, covering light to fully loaded touring (caution: 
long video and very bike nerdy): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qL7HLXR3O9U
.


> But are folks putting 10-speed equipment (cassette and chain) on a Riv?  
If so, what problems have you run into? [lack of shifters?, etc.]

It's just a matter of selecting drive train components (FD, RD, shifters, 
crankset, BB, and rear cassette) that work together on your target frame, 
whether or not it's a Riv. The 68mm BB shell/135mm rear spacing/28.6 seat 
tube clamp diameter is so ubiquitous that your AHH will not be your 
limiting factor. The problem will be if you'd like to keep some of your old 
drivetrain (and other components) as you add in that 10 speed group to your 
existing 9 speed group. (The answer is likely nothing practical, and it's 
most cost effective to upgrade everything at once.)


> I know this is all heresy.

This is not heresy: this is orthodoxy. Glad to see you playing around, and 
hope the tinkering works out in the end.


--Ed C.

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Re: [RBW] All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Yes, that was the idea. Grant banged the drum quite loud about the death of the 
basic steel sport tourer, which was all but gone by the time Bstone bailed and 
Riv started. It's a minor miracle they survived the Lance-ification of street 
bicycles in the late-'90s/early-'00s, but here we are. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: All NEW! SONdeluxe Widebody, Icebreaker, Ortlieb, Garmin Edge 1030, Sidi Touring Shoes, GK 650Bx1.75"

2019-09-24 Thread Jack K
Updated FS list below. Some new stuff, some previously posted stuff at 
reduced prices. 

   - *NEW SONdeluxe "Widebody" Dynohub: *New-in-the-box, 32 hole, black 
   anodized, 24 grams heavier than standard SONdeluxe, description from RH 
   website: "The Delux Wide-Body features extra-wide flange spacing (68 mm 
   vs. 50 mm) and a steel axle for a much stronger wheel. This hub is strong 
   enough for off-road racing and even tandems." More info and photos here: 
   
*https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop/components/hubs/sondelux-wide-body-generator-hub/
  
   

  
   *Retail $285
*  $235 + $10 shipping *
   - *(SOLD) NEW Icebreaker 100% Merino Baselayer:* New-in-the-box, Men's 
   medium, dark navy color, long sleeve, half zip. *$50 + $6 shipping*
   - *NEW Traditionall Sidi Touring Shoes: *Bought new 15+ years ago and 
   stored in my closet since, size 42 (but a tight 42), Riv sold these back in 
   the day and they were popular with the iBOB's as well, SPD compatible by 
   removing access port on bottom of sole.
* $125 + $10 shipping *
   - *NEW Tektro (Nashbar Branded) Inline Brake Levers: *Fits 25.4-26.0 mm 
   bars, silver lever with black hinged clamp.
* $10 + $5 shipping *
   - *EC Stronglight Ironlight Cranks:* Polished silver, 130mm BCD, JIS 
   taper, English threading, very light and truly excellent used condition. 
*$110 
   + $8 shipping  **Reduced to $100 + $8 shipping*
   - *NEW Ortlieb "High Visibility" Sport Roller Panniers:* Roll-top 
   waterproof Sport-Roller's with entire surface of the pannier covered in 
   reflective beads for night visibility and made in a retina searing day-glo 
   yellow for visibility day, night, rain, fog or bright sun. Impulse buy when 
   I saw them on sale, but, honestly, my old plain yellow Ortliebs have a few 
   more decades of life in them. These are them: 
   
https://www.rei.com/product/870523/ortlieb-front-roller-high-visibility-panniers-pair
 
   

   
   Retail is $240. 
*$165 + $15 shipping  Reduced to $155 + $15 shipping *
   - *NEW Garmin Edge 1030 Bundle Ultimate Bike Computer:* Another impulse 
   buy this spring when I saw it on sale and I was having fantasies of roaming 
   the back roads of America this summer, just me and my velocipede ... In 
   reality I've never even taken it out of it's box, since my old Edge Touring 
   works well enough for the my needs riding close to home. This is Garmin's 
   top-end model with more features than I even know about, much less could 
   relate here. It does have "heat map" routing so computed routes use roads 
   and trails often ridden by cyclists, which was the main improvement I was 
   interested in over my older model. Note, this is the "Bundle", which 
   includes premium heart-rate monitor and speed/cadence sensor, "out front" 
   mount, etc... This guy: https://www.jensonusa.com/Garmin-Edge-1030-Bundle   
   Retail $699.* $545 + $10 shipping.*
   - *NEW Pair of Panaracer Gravel King 650Bx1.75 Tires:* I decided to go 
   with skinnier Schwalbe G-One Speed's instead on my first 650B equipped 
   bike. *$60 + $10 shipping  *
   *Reduced to $55 + $10 shipping*

Newly added items:

   - *NOS Shimano 8s Bar-end Shifter Set:* New-In-Box set of Ultegra-level 
   8s (friction option) bar-end shifters with cables, downtube cable 
   stops/adjusters, 3 pieces of pre-cut black housing and handlebar "fairings" 
   to fit over the housing.   *$70 + $8 shipping*
   - *NOS Shimano 8s Bar-End Shifters:* New-In-Box, as above, but missing 
   the downtube cable stops and includes gray pre-cut housing.   *$55+$8 
   shipping*
   
Cheers & safe riding,

-Jack K.
Raleigh, NC



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[RBW] The charger has been claimed

2019-09-24 Thread Patrick Moore
On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 3:40 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Works with NiMH and NICADs, AA and AAA.
>
> Yours for *net* cost of shipping said small box ($7.90, I think).
>
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Re: [RBW] All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Steve Palincsar
Funny, that sounds like a description of my 1972 P15 Paramount.  Chrome 
Nervex lugs, 27 x 1 1/4" tires, centerpull brakes, fender clearance.  Of 
course, by 1994 brakes like that weren't available anymore.


On 9/24/19 9:52 PM, Joe Bernard wrote:

Definitely "when Riv was Grant's garage and the thought that it would still be a 
thing 25 years later was unimaginable" Riv. Lugged steel road bikes with brake 
clearance so you could run fat tires and go in the dirt, too? In 1994??


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[RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-24 Thread Ben Obrien
that New Yorker cover is great! 



On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 1:43:19 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Wow -- even the New Yorker weighed in on the event! (Surely this 
> issue's feature story is an in-depth interview with Grant, right?)  ;-)
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:40:34 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
>> Definitely kudos to Alex and Spencer, also Ben for being a driving force 
>> and the patch guy.
>>
>> Check out the New Yorker cover for this week:
>>
>

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[RBW] All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Definitely "when Riv was Grant's garage and the thought that it would still be 
a thing 25 years later was unimaginable" Riv. Lugged steel road bikes with 
brake clearance so you could run fat tires and go in the dirt, too? In 1994??

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[RBW] Hollowtech Homer

2019-09-24 Thread Clayton.sf
I am all for 1x, hollow tech (or similar), 165-170 cranks, 1 speeds or 12 
speeds or any in between speeds, threadless headsets and stems, non-leather 
saddles, synthetic grips and tape, indexing or friction, and whatever trail on 
any of my bikes including rivs. That stuff all works wonderfully and lasts just 
fine, despite all the armchair handwringing.

Clayton Scott
HBG, CA



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[RBW] All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Philip Williamson
That’s a beautiful bike. 
Really the epitome of early Riv. The ur-Riv. Paleo-Riv? Archaeopto-riv? I 
forget how that era stacks up against “Golden Age Rivendell.”

“One day all road bikes will for 1.85” tires.” 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Rivet repair

2019-09-24 Thread Tom Norton
Thanks! Glad it worked out.
I have re-riveted 3 or 4 B17's. I changed over to the big copper rivets.

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[RBW] Re: Ride/Race Report: Old Growth Classic in Santa Cruz

2019-09-24 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck
Great story -- this fellow Clem rider salutes you!

I'd love to see some pics.

Bob E
Cranford, NJ

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[RBW] Re: If you don't want to wait for a 53 or 56 Atlantis

2019-09-24 Thread dougP
Someone needs to jump on this opportunity.  I bought a 58 cm Atlantis from 
Rivendell in '03, and have ridden it extensively.  Last year I stopped by 
RBWHQ and got a couple of hours on a new 53 cm (size recommended based on 
my old 58), and can report it's a superior bike in every way.  Smoother 
ride & great agility on trails (something I was not expecting).  The longer 
WB means if you're carrying panniers you'll have even more heel clearance.  
The elves in Walnut Creek knew what they were doing when they improved the 
Atlantis.  

dougP

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 5:23:18 AM UTC-7, Christopher Wiggins 
wrote:
>
> I thought I would take one more crack at this.  I've got a couple of 
> Atlantis is the core sizes.  2 53s (one built, one still in the box ready 
> to ship), and 1 56 built.  The 56 can be sold complete or stripped, and 
> sold as a frame set.  Builds could be changed, but they are $2950 as they 
> are.  Frames are $1500.
>
> Interested?  
> https://thepsychicderailleur.com/product/rivendell-atlantis-3/
>
> Email info AT thepsychicderailleur DOT com  if you'd like more info.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
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[RBW] Hollowtech Homer

2019-09-24 Thread Jeremy Till
Just to be clear, are you trying to shift the Deore triple crankset with the 
Sora front derailer? If so, I would switch it out for a Shimano mountain triple 
front derailer such as the XT one that Riv sells:

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/derailers/products/shimano-deore-xt-front-derailer-17160
 

The mountain front derailer will be a better match for the chainline and 
chainring sizes of the mountain bike crankset than the Sora, which is intended 
for Road cranks.

No accusations of heresy here! I like clicky Shimano shifters and derailers and 
use them on my Clem for offroading. A couple of recent builds out of Riv have 
when featured that high zoot 1x11 or 12 stuff.

-Jeremy Till
Sacramento, CA

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[RBW] Re: Multi-tools for sale

2019-09-24 Thread Steve Butcher
Tell y'alll what...Pick any two of the multi-tools for $60.00 shipped and 
I'll keep the spare.   
Steve

On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 4:38:59 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> Hello forum,
>  I've accumulated these multi-tools but wish to offer them for sale as 
> one lot.  These include a Topeak Alen with case, Crankbrothers M-17, and 
> Park Tool-MTC-40.  All are in excellent to new condition.  I want $75.00 
> for the lot, shipped in CONUS.  These could make great gifts for cycling 
> friends.  Apologies for the somewhat blurry photos (cell phone).  
>
> Steve Butcher
>
> [image: 20190916_154143.jpeg]
> Stockton, Missouri
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Re: [RBW] Re: Selling a frame

2019-09-24 Thread jamison brosseau
Hi Sky, PM sent

On Thursday, September 19, 2019 at 11:06:29 PM UTC-4, Sky Coulter wrote:
>
> I’m with Matt. Anyone have a 61cm atlantis frameset in that ballpark, i’d 
> be a happy new owner. 
>
> Sky in new west 
>
> > On Sep 19, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Matt Beecher  > wrote: 
> > 
> > $700?!?!  Anybody got a 58 for sale?  I’d gladly pay that for a used 
> f/f/hs. 
> > 
> > Best regards, 
> > Matt Beecher 
> > Oswego, IL 
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[RBW] Hollowtech Homer

2019-09-24 Thread aeroperf
I’ve just put a Shimano Hollowtech II drive train on my A. Homer Hilsen 
frame.
I’ve seen a few Hollowtech II installations on this forum, and, boy, would 
I like some comments and advice.

When I retired I went out and bought a Sam Hillborne.
I live on Silver Comet trail and I like the feel of steel, and the “light 
touring, some gravel, do anything” Rivendell philosophy really appeals to 
me.  This was a great decision and the Sam is an excellent bike; heavily 
ridden for 4 years.  

I got a road bike (lugged steel) that had a square taper bottom bracket.  I 
replaced that with a Shimano Hollowtech II Sora system, and the difference 
was significant.  It felt “better”, in stiffness, positive shifting, 
transmitting pedal force to the bike, you name it.  Subjective, yes, but 
the reason for this post.

So I got an A. Homer Hilsen frame.  I built it up in the usual Riv style 
with Tektro 559 brakes, Albatross bars, Nitto post/stem, and Velocity Atlas 
650b wheels.  Then I installed a Shimano Hollowtech II M590 drive set.

Questions:

My AHH seems to not able to make up its mind if it is road or MTB.  While 
it uses the road standard 68mm bottom bracket, rear axle spacing is MTB 
(135mm).
The front chainline on my Sam was 45mm - road.  Rivendell sent me the Sam 
with a 2-speed front and Claris road bike derailleur.  I removed the guard 
and added a third ring.  That made the chainline 47.5mm, so I put in a 
Shimano Sora FD-3030.  I run front chainrings of 46-36-26 on the Sam.
When I built up the Homer, the M590 bottom bracket specified a spacer 
combination to make it MTB spacing (73mm, 50mm chainline), and again the 
road derailleur was struggling.  In this case I rearranged spacers to move 
the entire BB and crank 3mm left to solve the chainline problem.
Thoughts?  Has anyone found other solutions to the road/MTB front chainring 
alignment?  I realize that on derailleur bikes a chainline is a theoretical 
concept…but it affects front shifting.  And I didn’t want the road 
chainrings.

The latest Shimano Deore stuff seems to be heading towards 10-speed and 
175mm crank arm length.  My Rivs don’t like a 175mm crank due to the low 
bottom bracket, so I’m stuck with 170mm.  But are folks putting 10-speed 
equipment (cassette and chain) on a Riv?  If so, what problems have you run 
into? [lack of shifters?, etc.]

Along both of those lines, the Shimano “Trekking” groupsets (T6000 & T8000) 
are 3x10-speed systems that seem geared between MTB and road.  3-speed with 
front rings of 48-36-29. Has anybody tried one of these on a Riv?

Does anyone have experience with the Shimano Hollowtech II Deore equipment 
as to durability?  I may like the feel better than a Suguino XD2/square 
taper set-up, but those seem relatively bulletproof, and I can get 
chainrings in a lot of places.  Do the new Shimano front cranks take the 
abuse?

I know this is all heresy.  Rivs are supposed to look like 1980s Japanese 
road bikes with bigger tires - hence the Silver and Suguino chain rings and 
friction shifters.  But what I really like is touring - asphalt roads, 
cinder towpaths.  The feel of the Hollowtech II system is real for me, and 
I’m not as concerned with classic looks.
Besides, an AHH looks pretty good with black highlights.

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[RBW] Re: wtb: Nitto Mark's rack

2019-09-24 Thread Bill Lindsay
I have one that I would let go for $130 shipped.  The money would help me 
save up for the forthcoming RBW52F.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 1:06:30 PM UTC-7, Justin Wyne wrote:
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> Howdy folk,
>
> Anybody have a Nitto Mark's rack not getting much use they'd care to part 
> with?
>
> thanks
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[RBW] Free for postage -- small Priority box: Powerex MH C8009 8-cell smart charger

2019-09-24 Thread Patrick Moore
Works with NiMH and NICADs, AA and AAA.

Yours for *net* cost of shipping said small box ($7.90, I think).

Please contact me *off list.*

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[RBW] wtb: Nitto Mark's rack

2019-09-24 Thread Justin Wyne
Howdy folk,

Anybody have a Nitto Mark's rack not getting much use they'd care to part 
with?

thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

2019-09-24 Thread 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch
Thanks, Sean, Joe, and Mark.  I'm glad to know this.  About how to do it, 
that is, not about them being "sold out," whatever that means for an order 
yet-to-be-placed.  

Dave


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Re: [RBW] Wanted: Clem L 52 or 59

2019-09-24 Thread Joe S
I have a virtually new blue 59 Clem L I want to sell. I'd sell either the
complete bike or frame, fork, headset. Only ridden 127 sunny miles.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 12:16 PM 'Justin August' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> Anyone holding a relatively used frame they’d like to let go for less than
> retail?
>
> -J
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul Melvin chain tensioner

2019-09-24 Thread Andrew Nussbaum
Michael,

No relation to the seller, but saw this on Denver's CL today:  
https://denver.craigslist.org/bop/d/littleton-paul-melvin-single-speed/6977843340.html

Andrew

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 1:58:10 PM UTC-6, Michael Williams wrote:
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> Hey there group, does anyone have a Paul Melvin tensioner that isn’t 
> getting much use and they’d like to sell?Thanks!   -Mike

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 9:30:16 AM UTC-7, John H. wrote:
>
> Beautiful build. I've been thinking about running Campy ergo's of that 
> generation on my Sam. What's the jtek/cassette setup you have? How's it 
> shifting?
>

I don't know about Joe's build, but Campagnolo Ergopowers can usually be 
paired with Shimano non-Dyna-Sys rear derailleurs to shift cassettes that 
are N-2 speeds. For example, 10-speed Ergopowers with pretty much 
any non-Dyna-Sys Shimano rear derailleur will shift Shimano/SRAM 8-speed 
cassettes. 11-speed Ergopowers will also work with the same derailleurs to 
shift 9-speed Shimano/SRAM cassettes. No JTEK necessary.

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[RBW] Re: RBW 25 -Atlantic side of things

2019-09-24 Thread Bob Ehrenbeck
Wow -- even the New Yorker weighed in on the event! (Surely this 
issue's feature story is an in-depth interview with Grant, right?)  ;-)



On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 12:40:34 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:

> Definitely kudos to Alex and Spencer, also Ben for being a driving force 
> and the patch guy.
>
> Check out the New Yorker cover for this week:
>

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[RBW] All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Christopher Cote
RR03 has an AllRounder geo chart that lists a 52.5cm (CTT) seat tube and a 
55.5cm top tube. I don't know about you, but trying to measure top tubes from 
the intersection of the seat tube to the intersection of the head tube with a 
tape measure is pretty difficult for me. I'd put my measurements at +/- 0.5cm 
at best. Also, it's not often talked about, but hand made frames from even the 
best builder can be off spec a bit. I'd wager yours is "stock". In any case, 
that's one of the nicest looking bikes I've seen in a while! Enjoy!

Chris

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-24 Thread Coal Bee Rye Anne
Unless designed around some leftover Appaloosa... or Sam forks!  I’m of course 
joking, but you never know...

Come to think of it, wasn’t Roman’s Med Rosco Mtn Mixte 650b but with an 
Appaloosa crown?  I know Will’s Huge version was a Hunq fork but wonder if that 
Med was a one-off fork?  Sorry, Not trying to derail the topic and the brain’s 
a little fuzzy after a long few days/weeks/months.

Either way, very curious to see how Charlie turns out.

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Joe Bernard
John: It's Campy 10 to Shimano 9. It shifted fine in the stand, but I didn't 
actually ride it. The shifters are off the bike now and someone's already 
offered to buy them, I can sell you the Jtek thingy if you want. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Brooks Saddles - B67 in Honey $80 shipped; B17 Standard in Black, $60 shipped

2019-09-24 Thread Ed Carolipio
B67 is Sold pending payment.

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread John H.
Beautiful build. I've been thinking about running Campy ergo's of that 
generation on my Sam. What's the jtek/cassette setup you have? How's it 
shifting?

John in Cambridge

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 2:32:36 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's the first shots of my new-to-me A/R sans front fender and rack, and 
> before I upright it with Boscos. It's a bummer I can't use those sweet 
> carbon Campy brifters, but alas my arthritic wrists won't put up with drops 
> anymore. 
>
> I'm curious about the sizing. The early Reader geometry chart doesn't 
> match it at all, this one has a 52cm ST, 55cm TT, which mimics the 52cm 
> Bstone XO-1. Based on the serial number (what I can see of it) I believe 
> this was built in 1997, did Waterford ever do custom A/Rs for Riv? 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread John H.
Beautiful build. I was thinking of running a similar shimergo setup on my Sam. 
What jtek + cassette combo are you running?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Brooks Rivet repair

2019-09-24 Thread Tom Norton
Pics and $$?
Tom

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread DHans
The colors are awesome Joe. The matching colored seat post is classy.


On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 3:57:58 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Thanks, Hugh! It's a Holy Grail Riv for sure, especially to find one I can 
> fit. It's quite astonishingly light, I wasn't expecting that. It's going to 
> be fun!

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Ooh, I've never seen that chart before. Yes, 52cm C-to-T, and a more accurate 
TT measurement does show 54.5. Nice sleuthing! 

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[RBW] Wanted: Clem L 52 or 59

2019-09-24 Thread 'Justin August' via RBW Owners Bunch
Anyone holding a relatively used frame they’d like to let go for less than 
retail?

-J

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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

2019-09-24 Thread EasyRider
I think it'd look like a Rosco Bubbe Road, except 650b in the smaller sizes 
because it won't have been designed around leftover SimpleOne forks.

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 9:11:29 AM UTC-4, Timothy Hurley wrote:
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> “Mix of Roadinni and Clem” sounds very interesting. What do you all think 
> that would look like? Something like a rim brake Crust Bombora? 

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 11:32:36 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's the first shots of my new-to-me A/R sans front fender and rack, and 
> before I upright it with Boscos. It's a bummer I can't use those sweet 
> carbon Campy brifters, but alas my arthritic wrists won't put up with drops 
> anymore. 
>
> I'm curious about the sizing. The early Reader geometry chart doesn't 
> match it at all, this one has a 52cm ST, 55cm TT, which mimics the 52cm 
> Bstone XO-1. Based on the serial number (what I can see of it) I believe 
> this was built in 1997, did Waterford ever do custom A/Rs for Riv?
>

Are you measuring your ST C-T? I got my geometry data from here 
.
 
It appears that you get a choice of two TT lengths (see 5th column from 
left).

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[RBW] Re: Build + Small Ride Report: Testing out my new Hillborne!

2019-09-24 Thread RichS
Nathan, welcome to the sage green Sam owners club. Good looking build! Hope 
you get as much pleasure from yours as I get from mine.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 7:10:07 PM UTC-4, Austin B. wrote:
>
> That is a NICE looking build! I especially approve of all that mud caked 
> on the underside of the down tube. I too have my Sam set up off-roadish and 
> with some black components. It’s great for offroad as long as you don’t 
> load it up to heavily. 
>
> Enjoy! 
>
> Austin 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Geez, I just noticed I have the QR lever on the wrong side on the front wheel. 
How many decades have I been working on bikes??

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Re: [RBW] Re: Want to Buy: Rivendell Brand V handlebar bag

2019-09-24 Thread RichS
Bill,

I have the "not boxy" more but tubular version of the Brand V bag. Love the 
bag but wish it was at least "water resistant". Short of storing the 
contents inside a plastic bag have you (or anyone else in the group) 
experimented with waterproofing your Brand V bag? 

Hope you find that second bag!

Thanks very much,
Rich in ATL

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 7:49:29 PM UTC-4, Conway Bennett wrote:
>
> Probably too high for this one.  I'll take pics but it's fraying near the 
> zipper and the strap that goes around the stem pulled off long ago but I 
> still have it.  The map case is pristine though!  This may be the first 
> Rivendell product I ever owned and everyone was gushing over it when I 
> visited Riv back in 2013 to buy my Sam.
>
>
> Fair winds,
>
> Captain Conway Bennett
> 239.877.4119
>
> On Mon, Sep 23, 2019, 6:44 PM Bill Lindsay  > wrote:
>
>> I'll be glad to have a look at it.  If you think my price is too high, 
>> I'll be willing to consider something else as well...
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 4:37:49 PM UTC-7, Conway Bennett wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> I have one with real beausage.  It's been ridden hard and put away wet 
>>> but I have been contemplating selling it as I am going through a revaluate, 
>>> consolidate, and cull phase.
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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread REC (Roberta)
It's beautiful, Joe.  I cannot wait to see what your finished bike will 
look like and how you like this new electrified version.  I'm sure it will 
be MAH-velous!

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 2:32:36 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's the first shots of my new-to-me A/R sans front fender and rack, and 
> before I upright it with Boscos. It's a bummer I can't use those sweet 
> carbon Campy brifters, but alas my arthritic wrists won't put up with drops 
> anymore. 
>
> I'm curious about the sizing. The early Reader geometry chart doesn't 
> match it at all, this one has a 52cm ST, 55cm TT, which mimics the 52cm 
> Bstone XO-1. Based on the serial number (what I can see of it) I believe 
> this was built in 1997, did Waterford ever do custom A/Rs for Riv? 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Paul: It's a very dark blue. I need to finish the build and get some pics in 
sunlight to show it. 

Rich S: Yep, still have a custom coming. This one is going to get a Copenhagen 
Wheel, the custom will be my non-juiced Riv.

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder - Anyone In?

2019-09-24 Thread Mark Schneider
Looks like the pre-order worked, they sold out!

Mark

On Sunday, September 15, 2019 at 10:20:28 AM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> Grant wrote about this a few blahgs ago.  I am intrigued, but a bit 
> hesitant to put down $120 without having some idea of the style of the 
> sweater that is being produced.  At the same time, I love the color, and 
> the concept.  I also remember that Grant did a collection of wool sweaters 
> a few years ago that I skipped, but in hindsight wish I had purchased.
>
> Anyway, here is a link to the sweater:  Cheviot Wool Sweater Preorder 
> 
>
> If you have placed your order I would love to know your reasoning for 
> doing so.
>
> If any of you remember the previous wool sweaters that Riv. produced, do 
> you recall if that was done on a pre-order basis as well?  I'm curious what 
> might happen to the price of this sweater after the pre-order period has 
> ended.
>
> Anyway, thanks for your thoughts.
>
> Sean
> Buffalo, NY
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread RichS
Joe, this is a rare bird, especially since it has a 52 seat tube. Nice find 
- congratulations!

You still have a custom in the works? 

Best,
Rich in ATL



On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 9:54:40 AM UTC-4, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> very handsome indeed.  love that blue.  thanks for sharing.
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Paul Richardson
or if it's black i love the black.  i'm looking again and i can't really 
tell!  great color!!!

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Paul Richardson
very handsome indeed.  love that blue.  thanks for sharing.

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[RBW] Did you miss out on a 52 Clem L?

2019-09-24 Thread Christopher Wiggins
I've got a couple of pre orders that weren't spoken for.  One is in a box 
and ready to ship.  

Check it out here 
https://thepsychicderailleur.com/product/rivendell-clem-smith-jr-l/  You 
can put the bike in a cart to get shipping costs.

Thanks!

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[RBW] If you don't want to wait for a 53 or 56 Atlantis

2019-09-24 Thread Christopher Wiggins
I thought I would take one more crack at this.  I've got a couple of 
Atlantis is the core sizes.  2 53s (one built, one still in the box ready 
to ship), and 1 56 built.  The 56 can be sold complete or stripped, and 
sold as a frame set.  Builds could be changed, but they are $2950 as they 
are.  Frames are $1500.

Interested?  https://thepsychicderailleur.com/product/rivendell-atlantis-3/

Email info AT thepsychicderailleur DOT com  if you'd like more info.

Thanks

Chris

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[RBW] Re: MUSA Splats for sale

2019-09-24 Thread Steve Butcher
The splats have sold.  Thanks.

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 10:29:59 AM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> Hello Forum,
>
> [image: 20190910_100212.jpeg]
>
> [image: 20190910_100234.jpeg]
>  I'm offering for sale this pair of Rivendell MUSA Splats I purchased 
> a few years back for the Lake Pepin Three Speed Tour in the event of rain.  
> As it turns out, I did not need them; nor I still don't need them.  They 
> are in excellent shape and never beeen wet.  They fit over my size 10 shoes 
> very well.  I'm asking $35.00 for the pair shipped in CONUS.  PLease direct 
> message me with questions.  I've cross-listed these on i-BOB.  
> Steve Butcher
> Stockton, Missouri
>

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Joe Bernard
Thanks, Hugh! It's a Holy Grail Riv for sure, especially to find one I can fit. 
It's quite astonishingly light, I wasn't expecting that. It's going to be fun!

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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

2019-09-24 Thread Hugh Smitham
That's a beauty Joe.

On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 11:32:36 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's the first shots of my new-to-me A/R sans front fender and rack, and 
> before I upright it with Boscos. It's a bummer I can't use those sweet 
> carbon Campy brifters, but alas my arthritic wrists won't put up with drops 
> anymore. 
>
> I'm curious about the sizing. The early Reader geometry chart doesn't 
> match it at all, this one has a 52cm ST, 55cm TT, which mimics the 52cm 
> Bstone XO-1. Based on the serial number (what I can see of it) I believe 
> this was built in 1997, did Waterford ever do custom A/Rs for Riv? 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA.  
>
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