[RBW] Re: eClem again

[Joe Bernard]

Hi Ian, 

Yes, it's the most "bicycle like" of all the systems I've messed with, and I've 
messed with a bunch. The motor, controller and battery are all in the hub so 
there's no hassle with finding places to mount things, and no wires ziptied to 
the frame. You power on with a switch on the wheel, then the assist levels are 
managed on a phone app.

It's torque-sensing so the harder you pedal, the more "tailwind" it gives you. 
One cool feature with this is you can slow right down to a crawl on a very 
sharp turn - like in a park or parking lot - then press the pedal and the power 
picks right back up to get you out of it. I've ridden cadence systems where 
this wasn't possible, if the pedals were moving you had power trying to jet you 
forward..there's no fighting the motor with the Copenhagen Wheel. Top speed is 
25mph for the US market, which is about as fast as I want to go on a Clem. It 
may be 25kph for Canada, I don't know the ebike laws there. 

Range is limited due to the small battery required to fit in the casing. I can 
get around 30 miles if I stay out of full power (Turbo) and don't jam the 
pedals all day; easily dropping down to 10 for Turbo blasts. It's an urban A to 
B system, you won't be doing any touring unless you ride long stretches with O 
power. I'm going to try 50-miler at some point, though, just to see if I can 
realistically do one. It pedals fine in O, just heavy..I'll bet with some 
judicious running in 0 and Eco and coasting down hills I could pull it off. 

Another feature - which is exclusive to this wheel - is it supposedly "learns" 
how you ride and adapts the system to you. In practice this benefit is 
invisible, but I love the way everything works so maybe that's part of it.

The one major drawback is the same as all hub drive ebikes: pulling that heavy 
bolt-on wheel for a flat is not going to be fun out on the road. I use a thick 
Schwalbe tire and hope for the best! 爛

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[RBW] Re: eClem again

[Ian A]

Looking good, Joe, especially properly dressed with fenders. I am curious about 
the Copenhagen wheel. From what I understand it is entirely self-contained, app 
controlled and pedal assist only. Seems like almost the perfect electric 
bicycle solution. It remains a bicycle, albeit a bionic version.

If you could expand on the way the hub works and feels in practical day to day 
riding, it would be interesting to learn more. What sort of range does it allow?

IanA Alberta Canada

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[RBW] Re: eClem again

[Joe Bernard]

Yes I know I need to cut the stays on the rear fender. I've already kicked them 
like you do when a car has a trailer hitch sticking out. OW!

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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Dreamsicle Rambouillet f/f/hs

[Reid Echols]

Just a quick weekend bump, and how about a price drop? $850 plus shipping. Also 
potentially open to Rivvish trades...

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Re: [RBW] My Betty Foy and my Charlie Brown tree.

[Joe Bernard]

I did a similar thing when I was around #theclemrider's age. I wasn't looking 
at what I hit, but something across the street. Next thing I know there's a 
loud noise BAM! and I realize I've landed on the back of a parked VW bug. That 
was surprising! 

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[RBW] My Betty Foy and my Charlie Brown tree.

[Joe Bernard]

It's so pretty, so RED. In your Instagram post you said "Red. I yield to it..", 
which I thought was such an interesting, evocative way to express the 
experience of gazing upon the tree. Thanks for that. 

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[RBW] Re: Seeking Advice: Best Tires for Non-Ideal Rims

[tc]

I'm running Nano 2.1 tires on Synergy rims (64 Atlantis) with no issues.  
It really depends on the tread profile.  If creating a rounder tire profile 
(fat tire on smallish rim) will cause the particular tread transition (from 
tire center to side) to be more abrupt, you may not like that.  If the 
tread is uniform from center to side, then likely no issues.  At one time I 
ran 2.4 Mezcals on Alexrims DM24 rims -- the std rim Riv put's on complete 
Clem's.  They have a 24mm inner width.  Loved them.  Mezcals don't have an 
abrupt change in tread pattern, so maybe give it a whirl.  If it doesn't 
feel right, then spend the cash for Cliffhangers :-)

Tom

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[RBW] FS: Nitto campee 32f mini front rack

[jamin orrall]

price drop to 70

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[RBW] Re: Tires for Clementine

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

It’s been a long saga, but I finally have news to report. 

I got a smokin’ deal on Schwalbe Big Ben tires (2 in?) in 650b for my 
Clementine. They are a UK company, so of course shipping was going to take 
awhile. At some point, the tires were lost by the carrier and I was working 
with the company to figure out next steps. Meanwhile, one fine morning I 
made it all but a half mile to school and BOOM BOOM BOOM!!! Stopped my bike 
immediately and saw that the rear tire was pancake flat. I made an 
instagram video about that as I pushed my bike 1.5 miles uphill in my 
nursing scrubs. I don’t know why I thought that was funny. You should see 
the blisters I still have on my heels. 

I’m Two-Bike Leah these days, so I decided to take the Clementine to the 
shop and give them a laundry list of small issues I’d identified, as well 
as to have them get new tires for it. We all marveled at how dirty the bike 
was, and T (shop owner) agreed that the black on my pants could definitely 
be the brake pads. I brought Kool Stop brake pads for installation, because 
we had decided somewhere on this List that the brake pads were maybe to 
blame. Plus, what does it hurt to get new brake pads? I needed some tuning 
for the derailleurs and then the new tires and one new tube. The shop owner 
had tires in mind and I left him to it. Take my money, I’d said. I’d ride 
the Betz in the meantime.

Meanwhile, my lost tires appeared and the shop’s were late in arriving. He 
decided to put my Big Bens on my bike instead and asked me to bring them 
by. I came to pick up the Clementine today and T told me that he really 
thinks the black dust all over me and the wheels were from those old brake 
pads. He said they were disintegrating (or something) and that there was 
metal and erosion in them (or something). He really thinks I’m going to be 
pleased with these new pads. 

I did a test ride around the block and I honestly cannot believe how much 
better the bike feels on new tires and with new brakes. Just wow. I wish I 
had known sooner. It’s like butter now, whereas my old Kendas always felt a 
little like going through mud. I have dark wash jeans on today, so no 
telling about the brake dust, but I’ll certainly be back here whining about 
it if it starts up again. Carl! Thanks for messaging me about the Kool 
Stops!

What really was the icing on the cake was that T took it upon himself to 
clean up my filthy, filthy wheels and the multi-colored spoke ends all show 
up in bright color again. I was so pleased about how the bike came out and 
as I was leaving one mechanic said, “Your bike always moves to the front of 
the line when you bring it in. I think you get special treatment here.” 

“My bike is serious class,” I said, winking.

And it is.
Leah

PS Thank you so very much for helping me figure out this mess! 

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 8:16:30 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> I have a 2015 Clementine with the original Kenda tires. I have heard those 
> aren’t nice tires and I’m starting to suspect the rumors are true. “Boggy” 
> someone once said, and that makes sense to me. 
>
> At any rate, something worse is happening. Every day I come home from the 
> school commute and notice black speckles all over my legs, and more on my 
> left leg than right. The dots are not like grease - they LOOK like grease 
> but wipe off like dust. I took a video of this but think it might be weird 
> to post leg videos. At any rate, I suspected the stuff was coming from the 
> chain. Joe Bernard told me to get a chain cleaner and get at it, which I 
> did, and now my chain is clean but I still have the problem. Roberta asked 
> about my tires. Are they flaking off? They don’t appear to be, but I don’t 
> know. 
>
> Whatever the problem, doesn’t this seem like a good excuse to get new 
> tires? 
>
> I would love your input here. I want them to be the same fatness (there’s 
> a technical term!) that I have now, because I LOVE them and because they 
> fit with my fenders. I need puncture resistance. I have a healthy fear of 
> flats and zero skills to fix them. I’m telling you I live dangerously. That 
> is all! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: My Betty Foy and my Charlie Brown tree.

[Leah Peterson]

Tom, sigh, I can just imagine. It’s hard to watch your son grow, but also 
pleasing to know he’s becoming a good man. I’m sure those “15 minutes with Dad” 
in the mornings have shaped him toward that end. 

Thanks for your compliments on the Betty - she *is* a looker, and it can’t be 
denied! It is funny how I love that Clementine when it’s so low-brow compared 
to that lovely Betz. Not that the Clementine isn’t also pretty, but she’s more 
a big-boned, no-nonsense gal who you see as more attractive once you get to 
know her. 

But that anniversary bike (in the red color I’ve decided it would be though no 
one in charge has agreed to) would be nice to have too...
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 18, 2019, at 12:05 PM, tc  wrote:
> 
> 
> Leah,
> I know that feeling...but in a different way.  My son now has his license and 
> is starting to drive himself.  Though I never looked fwd to the early 
> mornings, I always looked fwd to those 15 min of time we spent together 
> talking about everything under the sun, hopefully helping to start his day 
> off well.  
> 
> #theclemrider will always look back on that time you spent with him on those 
> rides!
> 
> Finally, that Betty is simply one of the nicest Riv's around.  I know you 
> love your Clem, and are desperate for the elusive "red anniversary special", 
> but it would be hard to improve on whatcha got!
> 
> Tom
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[RBW] Re: Seeking Advice: Best Tires for Non-Ideal Rims

[Garth]

If you can find a tire that rides the way you like, get it even if it's not 
necessarily 2.35/2.4.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Seeking Advice: Best Tires for Non-Ideal Rims

[John McBurney]

I run 48c compass/RH 650s on Synergy rims with tubes with sub 30 psi
without problems. Conversely I run 38 /700 tubeless on a Cliffhanger at 40
psi without any issues. I also run 38s with tubes on Magic CXP33’s which
seem narrow and it works great.

John

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:27 PM Mark Schneider  wrote:

> Jan Heine specifically says narrow rims are fine with his tires. So I'd
> imagine most reasonably supple tires would work fine. Like Patrick I rode
> mountain bike tires on old narrow rims for years. I have no specific
> recommendations your width will be a little less on the narrow rims than on
> the Cliffhangers for same tires but it's not a huge deal IMO.
>
> Mark
>
> On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>>
>> I am waiting for a new 59cm Clem-L to arrive and plan on building it up
>> as a pretty basic off-road bike.  Most of the parts are things that have
>> been floating around my bike bins for years.
>> The only new thing I'm planning on using is a Bosco 52cm alu bar I
>> purchased earlier this year but haven't really used.
>>
>> I just replaced my old touring wheelset that was on the Appa with a new
>> more modern and appropriate Cliffhanger wheelset
>>
>> So I have the older wheels which are:  36h Synergy Rims laced to Shimano
>> dyno (DH-3N72) in front and an XT hub in the back.  I've ridden these
>> Synergy rims for about 9 years and they show no signs of any issues around
>> the eyelets that others have reported.
>>
>> I'd like to use what I have but I want to maximize the tires for the
>> Clem.  I'm planning to use tubes (those rims aren't good candidates for
>> tubeless anyway)
>> Does anyone have any thoughts to how big I can go?
>>
>> Note these are 700's.
>>
>> I'd really like to mount 29x2.4's but these rims are 23mm wide with a
>> 19mm interior width.
>>
>> I did mount some non-tubeless Vittoria Mezcals in 29x2.1 size when they
>> were on the Appaloosa and they really didn't balloon at all.  Maybe they
>> could've been stretched out a little better by a wider rim, but they fit
>> and rode pretty well.
>> *Pics attached of that
>>
>> Has anyone successfully run some off roady, tubed, mountain tires on
>> those rims in about 2.35" and up ?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell frame would you resurrect?

[tc]

Yes Alan, I heard the same from Will...they're no longer taking orders for 
the old Waterford-built Hunq.  Sounds like Steve Rex will likely make the 
"not-the-same-as-the-old-Hunq" Hunq, if it ever happens.  I too am looking 
for a used one, 58 or 59.

Tom

On Friday, October 18, 2019 at 2:59:24 PM UTC-4, Alan H wrote:
>
> Hunqapillar for sure. I'd love to get a size 50 with the 27.5" wheels. It 
> that perfect "what a bike is supposed to look like" frame (at least to my 
> eyes) and the green/cream color combination is off the charts beautiful 
> (again to my eyes).
>
> I even called Riv recently to see if I could order one, but alas it would 
> appear that the Waterford link is dead. At least for that frame (perhaps 
> they still make the Roadeo?). It was hinted that the Hunq could reappear in 
> the not-too-near future, but that if it did, it wouldn't be made by 
> Waterford and it would be updated to the point that it would be a different 
> bike. I suspect that this update will be much like the updates that were 
> applied to the Homer (making it more Hillborne-like) and to the Atlantis 
> (making it more Appaloosa-like). 
>
> Makes me kind of sad that I didn't pull the trigger a year-or-so ago when 
> I still could've gotten the bike I really want. So if anyone happens to 
> have a 50cm Hunq that they want to part with...
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 5:24:01 PM UTC-7, John G. wrote:
>>
>> The recent Bombadil sightings here and on Instagram have me thinking of 
>> all the Rivendell frames I wanted and never purchased. So, let’s play (or 
>> replay) the Rivendell Resurrection game: pick one discontinued frame you 
>> would like to see back in production. If you really, really wanna name a 
>> MUSA version of a current MIT frame, I guess that’s ok. 
>>
>> Disclaimer: this is only intended to wax nostalgic at the ones that got 
>> away. I’m not here to criticize the current lineup. 
>>
>> My vote: the Legolas!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: My Betty Foy and my Charlie Brown tree.

[tc]

Leah,
I know that feeling...but in a different way.  My son now has his license 
and is starting to drive himself.  Though I never looked fwd to the early 
mornings, I always looked fwd to those 15 min of time we spent together 
talking about everything under the sun, hopefully helping to start his day 
off well.  

#theclemrider will always look back on that time you spent with him on 
those rides!

Finally, that Betty is simply one of the nicest Riv's around.  I know you 
love your Clem, and are desperate for the elusive "red anniversary 
special", but it would be hard to improve on whatcha got!

Tom

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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell frame would you resurrect?

[Alan H]

Hunqapillar for sure. I'd love to get a size 50 with the 27.5" wheels. It 
that perfect "what a bike is supposed to look like" frame (at least to my 
eyes) and the green/cream color combination is off the charts beautiful 
(again to my eyes).

I even called Riv recently to see if I could order one, but alas it would 
appear that the Waterford link is dead. At least for that frame (perhaps 
they still make the Roadeo?). It was hinted that the Hunq could reappear in 
the not-too-near future, but that if it did, it wouldn't be made by 
Waterford and it would be updated to the point that it would be a different 
bike. I suspect that this update will be much like the updates that were 
applied to the Homer (making it more Hillborne-like) and to the Atlantis 
(making it more Appaloosa-like). 

Makes me kind of sad that I didn't pull the trigger a year-or-so ago when I 
still could've gotten the bike I really want. So if anyone happens to have 
a 50cm Hunq that they want to part with...


On Tuesday, July 16, 2019 at 5:24:01 PM UTC-7, John G. wrote:
>
> The recent Bombadil sightings here and on Instagram have me thinking of 
> all the Rivendell frames I wanted and never purchased. So, let’s play (or 
> replay) the Rivendell Resurrection game: pick one discontinued frame you 
> would like to see back in production. If you really, really wanna name a 
> MUSA version of a current MIT frame, I guess that’s ok. 
>
> Disclaimer: this is only intended to wax nostalgic at the ones that got 
> away. I’m not here to criticize the current lineup. 
>
> My vote: the Legolas!

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 59 Bleriot

[Rob H.]

Where do you live Colin?

On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 8:54:47 AM UTC-7, Colin Cummings wrote:
>
> I've been fortunate enough to have owned two Bleriots in the past dozen 
> years. One was destroyed by a car in a hit n run accident, the second one 
> was stolen :( I would LOVE to get my hands on another one and this time 
> I'll lock it up real good.
>

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[RBW] Re: Seeking Advice: Best Tires for Non-Ideal Rims

[Mark Schneider]

Jan Heine specifically says narrow rims are fine with his tires. So I'd 
imagine most reasonably supple tires would work fine. Like Patrick I rode 
mountain bike tires on old narrow rims for years. I have no specific 
recommendations your width will be a little less on the narrow rims than on 
the Cliffhangers for same tires but it's not a huge deal IMO.

Mark 

On Thursday, October 17, 2019 at 6:34:57 PM UTC-7, j.schwartz wrote:
>
> I am waiting for a new 59cm Clem-L to arrive and plan on building it up as 
> a pretty basic off-road bike.  Most of the parts are things that have been 
> floating around my bike bins for years.
> The only new thing I'm planning on using is a Bosco 52cm alu bar I 
> purchased earlier this year but haven't really used.
>
> I just replaced my old touring wheelset that was on the Appa with a new 
> more modern and appropriate Cliffhanger wheelset 
>
> So I have the older wheels which are:  36h Synergy Rims laced to Shimano 
> dyno (DH-3N72) in front and an XT hub in the back.  I've ridden these 
> Synergy rims for about 9 years and they show no signs of any issues around 
> the eyelets that others have reported.
>
> I'd like to use what I have but I want to maximize the tires for the Clem. 
>  I'm planning to use tubes (those rims aren't good candidates for tubeless 
> anyway)
> Does anyone have any thoughts to how big I can go?
>
> Note these are 700's.
>
> I'd really like to mount 29x2.4's but these rims are 23mm wide with a 19mm 
> interior width.
>
> I did mount some non-tubeless Vittoria Mezcals in 29x2.1 size when they 
> were on the Appaloosa and they really didn't balloon at all.  Maybe they 
> could've been stretched out a little better by a wider rim, but they fit 
> and rode pretty well.
> *Pics attached of that
>
> Has anyone successfully run some off roady, tubed, mountain tires on those 
> rims in about 2.35" and up ?
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Seatte rides this weekend?

[Shawn Granton]

Hello Justin-

I’ll be leading a Three Speed Ride on Saturday:
https://societyofthreespeeds.wordpress.com/2019/10/15/reminder-the-seattle-three-speed-ride-is-saturday-october-19/
Please note that all bikes are welcome on this ride, three speed or not. Word 
on the street that a rider with a Riv that is purple shall be there...
Oh yeah, hope you brought your rain gear!

Best,
Shawn who is normally in PDX but is in Seattle this weekend as well.

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[RBW] Seatte rides this weekend?

[Justin Wyne]

Howdy

I'll be in Seattle this weekend for a short stay till Monday and was 
wondering if there's any bicycle kinda things happening? Or, does anybody 
have suggestions for casual fun rides? I'm still debating bringing a bike, 
the folks I'm staying with have bikes but aren't really dedicated rider so 
I'd want to keep it comfortable for them if I'm dragging them out. What's 
your favorite Seattle bike shop/spot?

thanks
Justin

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[RBW] WTB: One Grey Backabike

[Joe Bernard]

I know it's an odd request, but I already have one non-grid grey Backabike I'm 
trying to at least sorta matchy-matchy. I sold an early version of this bag 
once so if you're ready to sell it back, I'll take it! But really any grey - 
grid or non - will do. 

Thanks,
Joe Bernard
Novato CA. 

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Re: [RBW] Seeking Advice: Best Tires for Non-Ideal Rims

[Patrick Moore]

Back in the day both Trek and Sun (at least those 2) made 13 mm internal/19
external mountain bike rims. I used both with 2" tires for thousands of
miles with no problem except having to keep pressure higher than (I would
now consider) optimum.

Wider rims work better for wider tires, but skinny rims work alright.

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[RBW] Re: For sale: 9 assorted Selle Italia, Flite, and WTB saddles.

[Julian Westerhout]

Price drop -- Saddles #  3, 6, 7, and 8 remain available -- now $20 each 
shipped w/in US. 


On Tuesday, October 15, 2019 at 6:24:59 AM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
> Saddles #  3, 6, 7, and 8 remain available. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 13, 2019 at 10:57:13 AM UTC-5, Julian Westerhout wrote:
>>
>> For sale: assorted Selle Italia, Flite, and WTB saddles. all in good 
>> usable shape, some cleaner than others. 
>>
>>
>> These were a donation to my local bike co-op — all proceeds will go to 
>> the co-op. 
>>
>>
>> I’m asking $30 each shipped w/in the US, or 4 for $100. Paypal preferred.
>>
>>
>> I have taken photos of the tops and bottoms of the 9 saddles. In the 
>> photos the saddles are numbered. When inquiring please refer to the 
>> saddle(s) you’re interested in by number. 
>>
>>
>> Photos here:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uwd2xf85h3VCjERy5
>>
>>
>> Please reply off list. 
>>
>>
>> Thanks, 
>>
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>>
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Caradice and Sackville for sale

[Steve Butcher]

I'll drop my price for the Caradice Audax plus the Sackville tool roll to 
$90.00 shipped CONUS.  STEVE

On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 5:37:35 PM UTC-5, Steve Butcher wrote:
>
> Hi Forum,
>  This is a cross posting with i-BOB but I've decided to reconfigure my 
> bag arrangement on my Rosco Bubbe.  I'm offering for sale a Caradice Super 
> C Audax saddlebag and a Sacville tool roll as on package.  I've pictured 
> the Caradice mounted to Rosco for perspective.  I don't have a photo of the 
> Roll but it is gray with a reflective strip on on end just as pictured.  
> Both bags are in excellent shape and never been wet.  All seems and, where 
> applicable, the buckles are intact.  I'll include a toe clip strap for 
> closure of the roll.  I want $115 for the package shipped in CONUS.  PLease 
> message me off list with questions.  Thanks,
>
> [image: IMG_20190629_082030.jpeg]
> Steve
>

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