[RBW] Re: FS: Vintage "ATB" - Nitto, Riv, Stumpjumper equipment

[maxcr]

PM sent for the cork grips.
Max

On Monday, December 2, 2019 at 12:18:28 AM UTC-6, ant ritchey wrote:
>
> Recently bought that SUPER-HUGE & practically never-ridden Stumpy that 
> some of you may have seen on the PDX CL or eBay. Had a full build kit just 
> a-waitin' for it... so the amazingly cherry, practically NOS OEM parts are 
> now for sale to offset the pretty penny plunked on the bike. Many things 
> here are from the Stumpjumper plus a few other bits I managed to scrounge 
> up from the workshop to revitalize the finances. Shipping not included. PM 
> if interested or if you have any questions. Text if ya feel like it - 
> 7247579358
>
> Take a look - [images of nice parts in a diffused & waning light] 
> 
>
> *Nitto // Specialized Bullmoose -- $75*
> You could call it a pristine time piece from the advent of mountain 
> biking, and yet it's a piece of bicycling equipment that's as functional, 
> practical and useful as ever. Beautiful, to boot. A fully-chromed, 
> Nitto-fab'd handlebar/stem/cable hanger combo in excellent condition. So 
> clean, so shiny, so chrome-y. Width is 650mm from end-to-end, 
> center-to-center. Perfect tig welds, top cap, wedge, stem bolt, hanger 
> bracket & barrel adjust all super, super clean.
>
> *Nitto // Specialized X-2+2 bar/stem/levers/grips -- $75*
> Slingshot-style stem, high riser bars, mint condition Tomaselli levers and 
> original grips from the 1983 Miyata-made top o' the line Stumpjumper. Dunno 
> if this is the "dull-brite" finish but the bar and stem are as beautiful as 
> any piece of Nitto equipment I've ever seen. Very light scuffing only where 
> the thumb shifters once lived. Tomaselli moto levers in perfect condition, 
> rubber covers and all. Heat treated w/ a moderate rise for a semi-upright 
> grip area. Floating cable hanger bridge is module either for dialing in 
> your brake line or removable if you prefer to use a conventional 
> headset-stack cable hanger. Original grub screw is MIA; I'm leaving it 
> as-is for the sake of preservation & period-correctness, but it's just an 
> M5 so any old bolt will do. Width is
>
> *Specialized Flag Crank & BB -- $90*
> 170mm, 46-36-26, 110/74bcd. Truly near-mint condition. Light scuffing on 
> the non-drive side arm near the pedal. The Flag cranks are maybe my 
> all-time favorite looking cranks and these ones here are in the best 
> condition that I've seen with my own eyes. Includes Specialized-branded 
> crank dust caps & original bottom bracket, all in practically unused 
> condition. Too damned short for me any way I slice it. If you have the S 
> Flag in 175 or larger in comparable condition please do let me know! 
>
> *Suntour Le Tech front & rear derailleur -- $50*
> http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/SunTour_Le_Tech_derailleur_5900.html
> Is it me or are derailleurs the hardest thing to take really nice pictures 
> of? If you're interested you've hopefully clicked the link and read all 
> that there is really to know on this flash in the pan Suntour offering. 
> Disraeli lists weight for the rear mech, I can check both f if you're 
> curious but they're nice and light in the hand. Beautiful construction and 
> in excellent condition. 
>
> *Nitto MT-10 dirt drop quill stem -- $45*
> 26.0 clamp. 100mm extension. Purchased pretty recently from RBW, light use 
> only. Excellent condition.
>
> *Park Tool double-ended cone wrenches -- $10*
> Set of 3; DCW-1 (13mm/14mm), DCW-2 (15mm/16mm) & DCW-3 (17mm/18mm)
>
> *Rivendell Miesha's cork grips + extras -- $30*
> 2 unused Riv cork grips for bar end shifters, each w/ 2 coats of amber 
> shellac (perfectly matches a dark brown Brooks). No bikes with bars for 
> these at the moment, collecting dust...what a shame! Throwing in a third 
> matching cork grip (Used but in great condition, just needs some amber 
> shellac and you've got a perfect back up) You know, cuz your bike falls 
> over and these lovely-looking things mar, break, fall apart, etc. If you 
> want/need I'll happily hack you off enough hemp twine to get your shifter 
> cables wrapped up and throw in the tube of super glue to get ya goin'.
>
> *Purple anodized chainring bolts -- $5*
> For a triple. Get your color-coordination // bling DIALED.
>
> *Shimano MC70 canti set -- $35*
> Pristine, shiny and as new-looking as they were in 1983. Brake pads look 
> unused. Bolts, washers, springs & plastic backing piece-thingys included 
> and also in perfect shape.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FOR SALE - SHIMANO ULTEGRA BRAKE SET

[Corwin]

Hi Charlie -

What's the reach on these brakes?

Thanks,

Corwin

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019 at 9:10:59 AM UTC-8, Charlie wrote:
>
> SHIMANO ULTEGRA DUAL PIVOT BRAKES with SHIMANO LEVERS $55 CASH SHIPPED in 
> U.S.A.
>
> Ultegra Brake Calipers provide the performance of Shimano's premier group 
> at a price that is palatable.
> THE BEST BRAKES FOR THE MONEY !
>
>  VERY NICE BRAKES - REPLACEABLE SLIDE IN SHOES - USED VERY LITTLE 
> IN LIKE NEW CONDITION
>
> $55 CASH or USPS money order SHIPPED in U.S.A. =  I do not have the 
> paypall thing.
>
> Please contact off list @  charliepedal (at) verizon (dot) net
>
> Charlie Petry   
> JENNERSVILLE PA
>
> [image: DSCF1672.JPG]
>
> [image: DSCF1674.JPG]
>
> [image: DSCF1675.JPG]
>

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[RBW] FS: Vintage "ATB" - Nitto, Riv, Stumpjumper equipment

[ant ritchey]

Recently bought that SUPER-HUGE & practically never-ridden Stumpy that some 
of you may have seen on the PDX CL or eBay. Had a full build kit just 
a-waitin' for it... so the amazingly cherry, practically NOS OEM parts are 
now for sale to offset the pretty penny plunked on the bike. Many things 
here are from the Stumpjumper plus a few other bits I managed to scrounge 
up from the workshop to revitalize the finances. Shipping not included. PM 
if interested or if you have any questions. Text if ya feel like it - 
7247579358

Take a look - [images of nice parts in a diffused & waning light] 


*Nitto // Specialized Bullmoose -- $75*
You could call it a pristine time piece from the advent of mountain biking, 
and yet it's a piece of bicycling equipment that's as functional, practical 
and useful as ever. Beautiful, to boot. A fully-chromed, Nitto-fab'd 
handlebar/stem/cable hanger combo in excellent condition. So clean, so 
shiny, so chrome-y. Width is 650mm from end-to-end, center-to-center. 
Perfect tig welds, top cap, wedge, stem bolt, hanger bracket & barrel 
adjust all super, super clean.

*Nitto // Specialized X-2+2 bar/stem/levers/grips -- $75*
Slingshot-style stem, high riser bars, mint condition Tomaselli levers and 
original grips from the 1983 Miyata-made top o' the line Stumpjumper. Dunno 
if this is the "dull-brite" finish but the bar and stem are as beautiful as 
any piece of Nitto equipment I've ever seen. Very light scuffing only where 
the thumb shifters once lived. Tomaselli moto levers in perfect condition, 
rubber covers and all. Heat treated w/ a moderate rise for a semi-upright 
grip area. Floating cable hanger bridge is module either for dialing in 
your brake line or removable if you prefer to use a conventional 
headset-stack cable hanger. Original grub screw is MIA; I'm leaving it 
as-is for the sake of preservation & period-correctness, but it's just an 
M5 so any old bolt will do. Width is

*Specialized Flag Crank & BB -- $90*
170mm, 46-36-26, 110/74bcd. Truly near-mint condition. Light scuffing on 
the non-drive side arm near the pedal. The Flag cranks are maybe my 
all-time favorite looking cranks and these ones here are in the best 
condition that I've seen with my own eyes. Includes Specialized-branded 
crank dust caps & original bottom bracket, all in practically unused 
condition. Too damned short for me any way I slice it. If you have the S 
Flag in 175 or larger in comparable condition please do let me know! 

*Suntour Le Tech front & rear derailleur -- $50*
http://www.disraeligears.co.uk/Site/SunTour_Le_Tech_derailleur_5900.html
Is it me or are derailleurs the hardest thing to take really nice pictures 
of? If you're interested you've hopefully clicked the link and read all 
that there is really to know on this flash in the pan Suntour offering. 
Disraeli lists weight for the rear mech, I can check both f if you're 
curious but they're nice and light in the hand. Beautiful construction and 
in excellent condition. 

*Nitto MT-10 dirt drop quill stem -- $45*
26.0 clamp. 100mm extension. Purchased pretty recently from RBW, light use 
only. Excellent condition.

*Park Tool double-ended cone wrenches -- $10*
Set of 3; DCW-1 (13mm/14mm), DCW-2 (15mm/16mm) & DCW-3 (17mm/18mm)

*Rivendell Miesha's cork grips + extras -- $30*
2 unused Riv cork grips for bar end shifters, each w/ 2 coats of amber 
shellac (perfectly matches a dark brown Brooks). No bikes with bars for 
these at the moment, collecting dust...what a shame! Throwing in a third 
matching cork grip (Used but in great condition, just needs some amber 
shellac and you've got a perfect back up) You know, cuz your bike falls 
over and these lovely-looking things mar, break, fall apart, etc. If you 
want/need I'll happily hack you off enough hemp twine to get your shifter 
cables wrapped up and throw in the tube of super glue to get ya goin'.

*Purple anodized chainring bolts -- $5*
For a triple. Get your color-coordination // bling DIALED.

*Shimano MC70 canti set -- $35*
Pristine, shiny and as new-looking as they were in 1983. Brake pads look 
unused. Bolts, washers, springs & plastic backing piece-thingys included 
and also in perfect shape.

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Leah Peterson]

Oh Ryan, sour grapes! I think you are jealous that you have like 8 Rivendells 
and exactly ZERO of them are metallic blue green shot through with glimmer like 
sunlight on seawater Clems. 

Also, fenders keep my sapphire Backabikes clean and fresh! So there! 藍 



Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 1, 2019, at 6:36 PM, 'Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Evan, 
> Please don’t mention water; Leah will go off on another diatribe about the 
> depth of the metallic blue sea like paint job for a 3rd or 4th time now.
> I was trying to talk her out of fenders actually since she only uses them to 
> protect herself from goose poop and other dry weather road hazards; but I 
> have to concede that they are perfectly fitting for her Clem L and add to the 
> overall beauty and personality of her bike.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Ryan ‘fender hoarder who doesn’t mount them’ Hankinson
> West Michigan
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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Evan, 
Please don’t mention water; Leah will go off on another diatribe about the 
depth of the metallic blue sea like paint job for a 3rd or 4th time now.
I was trying to talk her out of fenders actually since she only uses them to 
protect herself from goose poop and other dry weather road hazards; but I have 
to concede that they are perfectly fitting for her Clem L and add to the 
overall beauty and personality of her bike.

Sincerely,
Ryan ‘fender hoarder who doesn’t mount them’ Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] Re: 3 of the 4 tragic Romanov princesses and their bicycles

[Philip Williamson]

"When you can tell the poster by the subject line." 
#idiosyncratic #kudos

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 3:27:19 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I copied this from a Kindle library copy of *George, Nicholas, and 
> Wilhelm: The Royal Cousins and the Road to World War I* that I am reading.
>
> I guess that Anastasia was too young to bike when this photo was taken.
>
> Riv content: 
>
> 1. Ride in everyday clothing (and what charming clothing!).
> 2. Sit up and beg riding position.
> 3. Lugged steel!
> 4. Non-disc (plunger) brakes.
> 5. Big floppy hats.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] QB 62 FOR SALE

[Philip Williamson]

Plus one on the "don't worry about the spacing" idea. 
It's dead easy to roll an old 130 road hub into singlespeed use. XT or 
Ultegra 9sp is probably cheaper overall to turn into a one or two speed 
Quickbeam wheel than finding a "track" wheel these days. I got a nice Paul 
wheelset singe-sided fixed wheel for mine, and actually had to replace the 
130 axle with a 120. 

Is there a word for the grail bike that stays a grail bike when you have 
the grail bike? "Quickbeam" maybe?  

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 

On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 1:29:46 PM UTC-8, Tom Horton wrote:
>
> James  thanks for that rear hub advice
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 1, 2019, at 3:05 PM, James Warren  > wrote:
>
>
> Not in the market since I have a 64, but FWIW, I did the same coldsetting 
> of the rear of mine to 132ish (also for an Alfine.) I ended up not liking 
> the Alfine and put the frame back to regular QB use with a single-cog rear 
> hub. I just put a 130 threaded Phil FW hub back there, and all is fine.
>
> So the differently spaced QB is fine, and I kinda feel like it’s more 
> versatile.
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2019, at 6:49 AM, Tom Horton > 
> wrote:
>
> a little complicated but bear with me.  selling frame, fork, headset and 
> maybe wheels, my silver series 62 quickbeam, low miles, no chips or dents, 
> very good condition.
>
> I bought it to build up with shimano's alfine 11 hub and a jtek shifter, 
> for all around use. but I got five other rivs now, including a qbeam 68 
> that is more my ideal size, and I just don't use this bike.
>
> to install the alfine I had a bike shop 'coldset' the rear triangle, i.e. 
> expand it, from 120mm to 132mm (pretty sure those numbers make sense). so 
> if you were to convert it back to single speed you might have to have it 
> reset/coldset to 120. local mechanics tell me that's no problem and would 
> not affect the frame adversely; or maybe one could use spacers? beyond my 
> expertise.
>
> so: asking $750 for frame, fork and headset, plus shipping from my local 
> ibke shop in salisbury, md. I;d consider driving a couple hundred miles to 
> meet a buyer.
>
> I'd consider throwing in the original qbeam wheels/hubs for, say, a 
> hundred bucks more if that's an inducement. the current front wheel is the 
> original. also throw in the schwalbe marathon supreme tires, 40mm or 
> thereabout, no charge.
>
> SEPARATELY THE ALFINE:  if that has any appeal to this group, I'd sell 
> hub, which is build into an excellent 32 hole Mavic rim (AZ19 if says on 
> the rim sticker), plus jtek shifter for 350 bucks. it's silver, has maybe 
> four years and 500 miles on it. I just changed the oil in the hub for the 
> first time. rim brake.  so hub/wheel/shifter for 350.
>
> how's it ride?  the alfine's gear range, for me, would cover anything but 
> fully loaded touring in hills...it's a little short on the 'easy' end 
> there, though maybe not true for a younger, stronger tourer. I've heard of 
> these hubs leaking oil, but that has not been the case for mine. the jtek 
> shifter is way more compact than the original trigger shifter that came 
> with the alfine, and it works perfectly.
>
> pm me if interested. or txt/call   410 726 7282.
>
> pix attached:   
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: FS - 65cm A. Homer Hilsen

[Cameron D.]

I knew I'd forget something... Asking $1,600.

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Evan E.]

Love those fenders, Leah! The light bouncing off the textured aluminum 
looks like ripples on water.

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[RBW] Re: FS Ostrich Panniers

[Craig Montgomery]

All 4 are history. 

Craig in Tucson

On Thursday, November 21, 2019 at 11:27:39 AM UTC-7, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> Any tourists or tourist hopetobees out there? Here's a deal for you. I 
> have 2 pair Ostrich panniers. One pair have never been used. Just closet 
> wear. The others were used on a couple of tours so they are in great shape. 
> $130/pair shipped for the new ones. $110/pair shipped for the slightly used 
> ones. Any combination thereof is fine by me. Here's an affordable chance to 
> set yourself up in Tourista Cooldom. 
>
> Craig in Tucson
>

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[RBW] Re: FS Nitto R10

[Craig Montgomery]

Pfft...gone. 

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 12:23:01 PM UTC-7, Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
> I've had this R10 sitting around for a while and never put much use to it. 
> Prefer full racks. Time to move it along for you saddlebag only guys. $50 
> shipped w/ P-clamps.
>
> [image: R10.JPG]
>
> Craig in Tucson
>
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[RBW] Re: Did anyone notice the Rivendell reference in The Irishman?

[Dean Henderson]

Blond guy is Jesse Plemons. Played Floyd Landis in "The Program" about 
Armstrong.

On Friday, November 29, 2019 at 8:12:35 PM UTC-5, Trenker wrote:
>
> Joe Pesci, as Russell Bufalino:
>
>  
>
> "There’s a pork store up in Northern California. Right around Walnut 
> Creek. You’re from up there ain’t you?
>
> Yeah. And you might even know the guy that runs it.
>
> Actually I’m lookin' for a little favor. For him...not for me. But if you 
> can get him a ticket, like to Australia...you know what I mean. You wanna 
> help him get down there?"
>
>  
>
> (I won't give away any spoilers, but "a ticket to Australia" does not 
> refer to an airline ticket in this context. Could "pork store" be a kind of 
> mob slang for "a shop that sells non-racing bicycles?")
>
>  
>

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Joe Bernard]

Nice! I dig those old GTs, and that Microshift Advent group is perfect for it 

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Garth]

   Well Patrick I ordered a Susie and I stand and mash all the time up 
steep hills here. I'll likely use Billie bars as they offer some for/aft 
hand positions and the curves are usable, especially standing while 
climbing,  like the Albatross. It's a frame Patrick, you can set it up and 
ride it any way you like. A swept back bar does mean "sit up and beg while 
twiddling over the pedals" ... ahahahahahahaha !  That's just silly  
Just because you see some photos or some people riding like that doesn't 
mean you have to . they're not Zombies waiting to bite you so you turn 
into one of them and ride like that. 

The longer top tubes of the Susie/New-Clems actually lend themselves to 
riding as stretched out as you like, depending on bar and stem of course! 



On Sunday, December 1, 2019 at 4:22:55 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:

>
> Me, all the talk about the comfort and agility of vastly long-stayed Rivs 
> off road makes me want to try a Clem or Gus or 
> whateverthehelltherightdirtroadmodelis, upright bar and everything. But 
> (question for all): don't Rivendell seating positions presuppose a low 
> gear, seated, twiddling style of pedaling? How do the Gus and so forth do 
> when the rider likes to mash and stand?
>
>
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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[DHans]

I agree Joe it is all a matter of perspective.  And, the older I get the less 
concern I have for how a bike looks especially as compared to the “typical” 
bike. Comfort is king for me! I’ll post a new bike day Leah as soon as I can 
find an L model in 52. My current ride is pretty sweet and I’d post a pic but 
can’t figure how. 
Doug

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Rambouillet complete or frame set

[Adam Leibow]

SOLD

On Tuesday, November 19, 2019 at 9:34:45 PM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> yo watup rbw gg
>
> i recently acquired, and have now decided to sell, this beautiful 60cm 
> Rambouillet. The ride is sublime. It has the perfect balance of springy 
> lightness and agility/ nimbleness. 
>
> It's wonderful, but I have 5 rivendells right now and want a gus, so i am 
> leveraging some of the 5 to get that one. 
>
>
> [image: IMG_2427.jpeg]
>
>
>
> frame deets:
> 2004 issue
> 60cm C-T (58 C-C) seat tube
> Blue
> Round Lugs
> some knicks. all cosmetic. no dents. pretty good condition considering 
> almost 16 years old. garage queen. 
>
> build deets:
> silver shimano 5800 group (sans brakes)
> shimano 600 headset
> - cranks: 172.5 or 175 (can't remember)
> - chainrings - 52/36 (i have a 34t small ring if you need)
> - cassette - 11/30 (11sp)
> mid reach shimano ultegra brakes (older, 7700 maybe?)
> pink newbaum's tape
> nitto tallux 100mm stem
> nitto noodle 46cm (heat treated) bars
> nitto s65 crystal fellow seatpost
> wheels= 5800 hubs, h plus son archetype rims (polished). 
> tire options: 700x38 schwalbe g one all arounds, and/or 700x23/25 
> continental gp4000's. (you can have both, they represent both extremes of 
> the tires you can use with this bike; if i were to keep it, i'd get 
> something in the middle). 
> - no saddle or saddle cover included
> - no pedals included
> - no cages included
> - none of pictured bags included
>
> i am looking for $700 FFHS
> OR 
> i am looking for $1500 for entire build (minus saddle & pedals). 
>
> prices are NET TO ME and don't include shipping or seller fees. i am in 
> San Francisco and can meet here or the berkeley/oakland or the peninsula or 
> marin. local sale preferred but i can ship too. 
>
> LMK if you interest. text me (310 963 6959
>
> thanks!
> -a
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Joe Bernard]

Patrick, my 'standing and grinding' experience on Clems is limited by my 
arthritic wrist, but I did a lot of it on a demo 52 H a couple (or three) years 
ago on a Riv Ride on Mt. Diablo trails (they're steep!). The only limitation I 
was aware of was standin while gripping the ends of the Bosco Bar, which you 
wouldn't do. I reached forward to the curves for that, and any mtb-ish bar on a 
Clem or Gus would be fine for that kind of riding.  

I rode a Susie around the building at RBW that had a prototype Bosco Bullmoose 
with less reach and more flare, I think that bike would be a great 
stand-and-climber. Really the long-stay limitation for these frames is popping 
the front wheel up, there's nothing to sabotage standing. 

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Leah Peterson]

Patrick, thanks! I had to look up the word paean, but what a good word to add 
to the vocabulary! Where *did* you encounter it? 

Oh, stems. I really went into this knowing less than nothing about them. When I 
was first diagnosing the fit problem of the bike I was advised to get “a 
shorter stem” which just about sent me into orbit because I thought that meant 
the bars would be lowered. I like ‘em high!

About climbing and mashing. I am not a dirt road rider, but I am a 
very-steep-hill rider. I will often stay in my hard gear and stand and mash 
pedals. I do this *on purpose* because I want the extra workout. I have found 
it somehow gives me an arm workout as I am pulling up hard on the bars. I’m 
sure this is wrong. I’m sure this is bad form... I don’t care. Anyway, I don’t 
notice that it’s uncomfortable, and I have my Bosco bars at max height. I also 
find if I want to use the granny, I can also stay comfortably seated and climb 
the hill from my saddle. It all works great. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 1, 2019, at 1:22 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> Leah: Your paeans (I had to look up the spelling) to your Clem are almost 
> heartbreakingly eloquent, and yes, the wavy fenders are aethereally (ditto) 
> beautiful. And how many of the rest of us have wrestled in prayer with the 
> length of stems? 
> 
> Me, all the talk about the comfort and agility of vastly long-stayed Rivs off 
> road makes me want to try a Clem or Gus or 
> whateverthehelltherightdirtroadmodelis, upright bar and everything. But 
> (question for all): don't Rivendell seating positions presuppose a low gear, 
> seated, twiddling style of pedaling? How do the Gus and so forth do when the 
> rider likes to mash and stand?
> 
>> On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 2:13 PM Leah Peterson  wrote:
>> Thanks, Doug. This bike has really endeared itself to me. I love what it can 
>> do (haul it all, total comfort, luxurious ride) and that it is also an 
>> unlikely beauty. I do think it looks a little long and can see how that 
>> turns some folks off to it, but I think if you only paid attention to the 
>> ride you’d love it. My initial complaint was that I didn’t want the bars so 
>> far from me, but most folks don’t seem to complain about that. I will also 
>> say the wheelbase is as long as my Saris rack can possibly take. I always 
>> feel like I’m not going to be able to make tight turns, but that hasn’t been 
>> true. 
>> 
>> If those things are not troublesome to you, I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t 
>> like a Clem! And the L version has great resale if you really couldn’t live 
>> with it, so now you’re all out of excuses. I await your New Bike Day post. 
>> Oh, and get the wavy fenders!
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> > On Dec 1, 2019, at 10:29 AM, DHans  wrote:
>> > 
>> > I really like the way you’ve outfitted the Clem L. It is classy looking. 
>> > I can’t help but think of “land yacht” when I see these bikes. I think the 
>> > low tube makes it look even longer. I also think the design uses the form 
>> > follows function idea in that the wheelbase was extended enough to allow 
>> > for a stable comfy ride. I wish I could ride one before purchasing but I 
>> > may just take a chance and buy a frame when one comes up for sale. 
>> > Doug
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Re: [RBW] QB 62 FOR SALE

[Tom Horton]

James  thanks for that rear hub advice

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 1, 2019, at 3:05 PM, James Warren  wrote:
> 
> 
> Not in the market since I have a 64, but FWIW, I did the same coldsetting of 
> the rear of mine to 132ish (also for an Alfine.) I ended up not liking the 
> Alfine and put the frame back to regular QB use with a single-cog rear hub. I 
> just put a 130 threaded Phil FW hub back there, and all is fine.
> 
> So the differently spaced QB is fine, and I kinda feel like it’s more 
> versatile.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 1, 2019, at 6:49 AM, Tom Horton  wrote:
>> 
>> a little complicated but bear with me.  selling frame, fork, headset and 
>> maybe wheels, my silver series 62 quickbeam, low miles, no chips or dents, 
>> very good condition.
>> 
>> I bought it to build up with shimano's alfine 11 hub and a jtek shifter, for 
>> all around use. but I got five other rivs now, including a qbeam 68 that is 
>> more my ideal size, and I just don't use this bike.
>> 
>> to install the alfine I had a bike shop 'coldset' the rear triangle, i.e. 
>> expand it, from 120mm to 132mm (pretty sure those numbers make sense). so if 
>> you were to convert it back to single speed you might have to have it 
>> reset/coldset to 120. local mechanics tell me that's no problem and would 
>> not affect the frame adversely; or maybe one could use spacers? beyond my 
>> expertise.
>> 
>> so: asking $750 for frame, fork and headset, plus shipping from my local 
>> ibke shop in salisbury, md. I;d consider driving a couple hundred miles to 
>> meet a buyer.
>> 
>> I'd consider throwing in the original qbeam wheels/hubs for, say, a hundred 
>> bucks more if that's an inducement. the current front wheel is the original. 
>> also throw in the schwalbe marathon supreme tires, 40mm or thereabout, no 
>> charge.
>> 
>> SEPARATELY THE ALFINE:  if that has any appeal to this group, I'd sell hub, 
>> which is build into an excellent 32 hole Mavic rim (AZ19 if says on the rim 
>> sticker), plus jtek shifter for 350 bucks. it's silver, has maybe four years 
>> and 500 miles on it. I just changed the oil in the hub for the first time. 
>> rim brake.  so hub/wheel/shifter for 350.
>> 
>> how's it ride?  the alfine's gear range, for me, would cover anything but 
>> fully loaded touring in hills...it's a little short on the 'easy' end there, 
>> though maybe not true for a younger, stronger tourer. I've heard of these 
>> hubs leaking oil, but that has not been the case for mine. the jtek shifter 
>> is way more compact than the original trigger shifter that came with the 
>> alfine, and it works perfectly.
>> 
>> pm me if interested. or txt/call   410 726 7282.
>> 
>> pix attached:   
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Joe Bernard]

Also, "looks long" depends on your POV. I've owned so many variations of Riv 
Longbikes in the last few years - including my current 45 L and 52 H Clems - 
that "normal" bikes look short and weird to me. "Why are you sitting right on 
top of the real wheel??" 

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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Patrick Moore]

Leah: Your paeans (I had to look up the spelling) to your Clem are almost
heartbreakingly eloquent, and yes, the wavy fenders are aethereally (ditto)
beautiful. And how many of the rest of us have wrestled in prayer with the
length of stems?

Me, all the talk about the comfort and agility of vastly long-stayed Rivs
off road makes me want to try a Clem or Gus or
whateverthehelltherightdirtroadmodelis, upright bar and everything. But
(question for all): don't Rivendell seating positions presuppose a low
gear, seated, twiddling style of pedaling? How do the Gus and so forth do
when the rider likes to mash and stand?

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 2:13 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Thanks, Doug. This bike has really endeared itself to me. I love what it
> can do (haul it all, total comfort, luxurious ride) and that it is also an
> unlikely beauty. I do think it looks a little long and can see how that
> turns some folks off to it, but I think if you only paid attention to the
> ride you’d love it. My initial complaint was that I didn’t want the bars so
> far from me, but most folks don’t seem to complain about that. I will also
> say the wheelbase is as long as my Saris rack can possibly take. I always
> feel like I’m not going to be able to make tight turns, but that hasn’t
> been true.
>
> If those things are not troublesome to you, I can’t imagine why you
> wouldn’t like a Clem! And the L version has great resale if you really
> couldn’t live with it, so now you’re all out of excuses. I await your New
> Bike Day post. Oh, and get the wavy fenders!
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 1, 2019, at 10:29 AM, DHans  wrote:
> >
> > I really like the way you’ve outfitted the Clem L. It is classy
> looking. I can’t help but think of “land yacht” when I see these bikes. I
> think the low tube makes it look even longer. I also think the design uses
> the form follows function idea in that the wheelbase was extended enough to
> allow for a stable comfy ride. I wish I could ride one before purchasing
> but I may just take a chance and buy a frame when one comes up for sale.
> > Doug
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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[Leah Peterson]

Thanks, Doug. This bike has really endeared itself to me. I love what it can do 
(haul it all, total comfort, luxurious ride) and that it is also an unlikely 
beauty. I do think it looks a little long and can see how that turns some folks 
off to it, but I think if you only paid attention to the ride you’d love it. My 
initial complaint was that I didn’t want the bars so far from me, but most 
folks don’t seem to complain about that. I will also say the wheelbase is as 
long as my Saris rack can possibly take. I always feel like I’m not going to be 
able to make tight turns, but that hasn’t been true. 

If those things are not troublesome to you, I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t 
like a Clem! And the L version has great resale if you really couldn’t live 
with it, so now you’re all out of excuses. I await your New Bike Day post. Oh, 
and get the wavy fenders!
Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 1, 2019, at 10:29 AM, DHans  wrote:
> 
> I really like the way you’ve outfitted the Clem L. It is classy looking. I 
> can’t help but think of “land yacht” when I see these bikes. I think the low 
> tube makes it look even longer. I also think the design uses the form follows 
> function idea in that the wheelbase was extended enough to allow for a stable 
> comfy ride. I wish I could ride one before purchasing but I may just take a 
> chance and buy a frame when one comes up for sale. 
> Doug
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Re: [RBW] QB 62 FOR SALE

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, and to make everyone's life easier: you can easily find fixed/ss hubs
to fit a 130 or 135 mm OL rear triangle, so a buyer need not reset the
frame to use it ss. My 2003 Riv converted conversion Road uses a Surly
fixed/free hub spaced 130 mm, my 1999 Riv gofast uses a 126 mm OL Phil
fixed/fixed, and I've owned 1 White Industries ENO eccentric fixed/free hub
spaced 135 mm OL.

Patrick Moore, who would buy a (~58 cm) Quickbeam if he didn't have 3 other
fixed gears, in ABQ, NM.

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 7:49 AM Tom Horton  wrote:

> a little complicated but bear with me.  selling frame, fork, headset and
> maybe wheels, my silver series 62 quickbeam, low miles, no chips or dents,
> very good condition.
>
> I bought it to build up with shimano's alfine 11 hub and a jtek shifter,
> for all around use. but I got five other rivs now, including a qbeam 68
> that is more my ideal size, and I just don't use this bike.
>
> to install the alfine I had a bike shop 'coldset' the rear triangle, i.e.
> expand it, from 120mm to 132mm (pretty sure those numbers make sense). so
> if you were to convert it back to single speed you might have to have it
> reset/coldset to 120. local mechanics tell me that's no problem and would
> not affect the frame adversely; or maybe one could use spacers? beyond my
> expertise.
>
> so: asking $750 for frame, fork and headset, plus shipping from my local
> ibke shop in salisbury, md. I;d consider driving a couple hundred miles to
> meet a buyer.
>
> I'd consider throwing in the original qbeam wheels/hubs for, say, a
> hundred bucks more if that's an inducement. the current front wheel is the
> original. also throw in the schwalbe marathon supreme tires, 40mm or
> thereabout, no charge.
>
> SEPARATELY THE ALFINE:  if that has any appeal to this group, I'd sell
> hub, which is build into an excellent 32 hole Mavic rim (AZ19 if says on
> the rim sticker), plus jtek shifter for 350 bucks. it's silver, has maybe
> four years and 500 miles on it. I just changed the oil in the hub for the
> first time. rim brake.  so hub/wheel/shifter for 350.
>
> how's it ride?  the alfine's gear range, for me, would cover anything but
> fully loaded touring in hills...it's a little short on the 'easy' end
> there, though maybe not true for a younger, stronger tourer. I've heard of
> these hubs leaking oil, but that has not been the case for mine. the jtek
> shifter is way more compact than the original trigger shifter that came
> with the alfine, and it works perfectly.
>
> pm me if interested. or txt/call   410 726 7282.
>
> pix attached:
>
>
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Re: [RBW] QB 62 FOR SALE

[James Warren]

Not in the market since I have a 64, but FWIW, I did the same coldsetting of 
the rear of mine to 132ish (also for an Alfine.) I ended up not liking the 
Alfine and put the frame back to regular QB use with a single-cog rear hub. I 
just put a 130 threaded Phil FW hub back there, and all is fine.

So the differently spaced QB is fine, and I kinda feel like it’s more versatile.


> On Dec 1, 2019, at 6:49 AM, Tom Horton  wrote:
> 
> a little complicated but bear with me.  selling frame, fork, headset and 
> maybe wheels, my silver series 62 quickbeam, low miles, no chips or dents, 
> very good condition.
> 
> I bought it to build up with shimano's alfine 11 hub and a jtek shifter, for 
> all around use. but I got five other rivs now, including a qbeam 68 that is 
> more my ideal size, and I just don't use this bike.
> 
> to install the alfine I had a bike shop 'coldset' the rear triangle, i.e. 
> expand it, from 120mm to 132mm (pretty sure those numbers make sense). so if 
> you were to convert it back to single speed you might have to have it 
> reset/coldset to 120. local mechanics tell me that's no problem and would not 
> affect the frame adversely; or maybe one could use spacers? beyond my 
> expertise.
> 
> so: asking $750 for frame, fork and headset, plus shipping from my local ibke 
> shop in salisbury, md. I;d consider driving a couple hundred miles to meet a 
> buyer.
> 
> I'd consider throwing in the original qbeam wheels/hubs for, say, a hundred 
> bucks more if that's an inducement. the current front wheel is the original. 
> also throw in the schwalbe marathon supreme tires, 40mm or thereabout, no 
> charge.
> 
> SEPARATELY THE ALFINE:  if that has any appeal to this group, I'd sell hub, 
> which is build into an excellent 32 hole Mavic rim (AZ19 if says on the rim 
> sticker), plus jtek shifter for 350 bucks. it's silver, has maybe four years 
> and 500 miles on it. I just changed the oil in the hub for the first time. 
> rim brake.  so hub/wheel/shifter for 350.
> 
> how's it ride?  the alfine's gear range, for me, would cover anything but 
> fully loaded touring in hills...it's a little short on the 'easy' end there, 
> though maybe not true for a younger, stronger tourer. I've heard of these 
> hubs leaking oil, but that has not been the case for mine. the jtek shifter 
> is way more compact than the original trigger shifter that came with the 
> alfine, and it works perfectly.
> 
> pm me if interested. or txt/call   410 726 7282.
> 
> pix attached:   
> 
> 
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[RBW] Re: FS: 62cm Rambouillet

[Jay Lonner]

The frameset has sold. I'll be listing the individual components in the 
near future.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

On Monday, November 11, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-8, Jay Lonner wrote:
>
> This is my Rambouillet. There are many like it, but this one is mine. But 
> it also could be yours, since my riding has morphed from spirited weekend 
> rides to plodding urban trips better suited to my Hunqapillar.
>
> Anyway, this is an original, orange, fancy-lugged model, 62cm. Current 
> components include:
>
> - Wheels by Peter Jon White, XTR M900 hubs and MA3 rims. (I also have a 
> PJW-built front wheel with a SON hub and MA3 rims that could be sold on its 
> own or as part of a package deal.)
> - Front and rear derailers are Suntour XC9000
> - Ritchey Logic triple crank with Harris Cyclery "Century Special" 8-speed 
> cassette
> - Cane Creek levers, Tektro sidepulls
> - Ultegra headset, UN72 bb
> - B17 saddle, "Waybacker" seatpost, Albstache bars, Nitto stem
> - SKS fenders, Tubus Fly rack, Carradice saddlebag
>
> I'm building up a Cheviot for my wife, and many of these components would 
> work well in that build, so I could either sell the whole shebang or just 
> f/f/hs/bb.
>
> Pricewise I'm really stuck. I don't know whether to regard this bike as a 
> sought-after classic or an obsolete curiosity from the early days of 
> Rivendell. I'm not interested in holding out for top dollar, but I also 
> don't want to be a sucker. I'm thinking something like $700 for the 
> frameset, $1500 complete, plus actual packing and shipping costs. If that 
> seems out of line I am open to suggestions and/or offers.
>
> I've included a pic of the bike but can also provide closeups if there are 
> particular areas of concern.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
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Re: [RBW] There’s a new man in my life, and his name is Clem

[DHans]

I really like the way you’ve outfitted the Clem L. It is classy looking. I 
can’t help but think of “land yacht” when I see these bikes. I think the low 
tube makes it look even longer. I also think the design uses the form follows 
function idea in that the wheelbase was extended enough to allow for a stable 
comfy ride. I wish I could ride one before purchasing but I may just take a 
chance and buy a frame when one comes up for sale. 
Doug

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Sugino 30-46t double crankset w/ 175mm arms (or triple to make a double w/outer chain guard) or another brand 2x9

[Abe Gardner]

I was just offered some compatible (but scuffed up) 110/74 crankarms that’ll 
work with these. Would you take $40 shipped (or I could pick up in Novato 
sometime in the next couple weeks)?

You have such nice stuff on the list so often, I figure it can’t hurt to ask if 
you have any of the other parts I’m still looking for:
• Rear wheel: 700c, 135mm, 9 speed compatible, similar rim width to Velocity 
Atlas (my front wheel)
• Mini v-brakes or cantilever brakes like the Tektro CR710 or CR720
• 35mm tires - used and cheap is great.
• Front derailleur that would match the 46/30 double and friction shifter 
(using a Sunrace thumbie or downtube shifters) - I have an old Suntour that may 
work but would like something that’s known to work on such a setup.

Thanks,
Abe




> On Nov 29, 2019, at 1:25 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> Here's a V-O guard-46-30 110/74 set. I got them on an as-new crank, rode it 
> a couple weeks and swapped different rings on (arms are long gone). I'm 
> thinking $50 shipped? 
> 
>> On Thursday, November 28, 2019 at 6:39:54 PM UTC-8, Pancake wrote:
>> Thanks KJ and for all the PMs - I have a few messages out to folks and 
>> waiting on prices. I will be getting a Specialized Strongarm crankset triple 
>> with 42/32/24t for $10 but I’m still looking for something nicer and with 
>> the 46/30 chainrings (or just the chainrings). Couple messages about one 
>> 94bcm triple to double setup already and an IRD. Still waiting for the right 
>> thing or prices on a few so please keep the options coming!
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[RBW] Re: Silver2 shifters have arrived!

[Adam in Indiana]

I still use Microshift's barend made for Shimano's 10 speed mountain 
deraileurs, works great.  Even better in friction mode.  No pretty silver 
finish, though...


On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 7:55:55 PM UTC-5, Matt C. wrote:
> I would love to know the answer to this as well before ordering a pair. As 
> far as I know dynasis requires about 1.1 mm more pull per shift than Shimano 
> road. I like 10 speed friction for road, so it would be nice to find 
> something that allows for this amount of travel to use for more off road 
> derailleurs. If someone calls Riv and asks, let the rest of us know! Thanks.
> 
> Matt Cook in CT

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[RBW] Re: Karoo Hammerhead

[Karl]

I ordered one to try. Not loving my Garmin 520. Hoping it is more user 
friendly. 

Karl
Nashville, TN

On Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 10:56:20 PM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Wonder if anybody on this list is using the Karoo Hammerhead. They have a 
> Black Friday sale going on, and I wonder what the experience of using the 
> device is like.
>
> --Eric Norris
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