[RBW] Frame pump for 55cm Cheviot

[Adam]

What size works well? Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Raid Bill's Stable: Nine bikes available For Sale

[Bill Lindsay]

To be completely clear, it is the 56cm Sam Hillborne that has a Kasai 
Dynacoil dynamo front hub.  

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 5:11:46 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> Correction on the build list.  The dynamo front hub is not a SON Deluxe.  
> It is a Kasai Dynacoil like Rivendell sells.  I used that one in part to 
> facilitate a slightly easier integration with the magnetic interconnectors 
> that drive the USB charger.  
>
> Bill
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Raid Bill's Stable: Nine bikes available For Sale

[Bill Lindsay]

Correction on the build list.  The dynamo front hub is not a SON Deluxe.  
It is a Kasai Dynacoil like Rivendell sells.  I used that one in part to 
facilitate a slightly easier integration with the magnetic interconnectors 
that drive the USB charger.  

Bill

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[RBW] Re: Raid Bill's Stable: Nine bikes available For Sale

[Bill Lindsay]

For those who are interested in the Atlantis, here is the build info I've 
shared over email to a couple of you:






I don't have a great For Sale photo but it's been featured prominently on 
my Instagram lately.  

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7miU0LlXdK/

It's a 56cm MIT Atlantis.  Stock Riv issue headset.  

Wheels are Cliffhanger black rims (32 hole), Shimano Deore XT M750 (Japan) 
black hubs + skewers.  DT spokes.  Duro Miner 650B x 2.0 tires, with 
tubes.  Shimano HG50 11-32 cassette.  

Shimano XTR M985 crankset and BB (172.5mm arms, 44/30 rings).  MKS pedals.  
SRAM 1070 chain(s).  Deore XT rear der.  Microshift 10sp barcon shifters.  
Shimano CX70 front der

SRAM S500 brakelevers.  Shimano CX70 brakes.  Nitto lugged stem (painted 
orange).  Nitto 48cm Noodle handlebars.  Nitto Crystal Fellow seatpost.  
Brooks saddle.  

Accessories included:  custom Haulin-Colin mini porteur rack, WALD basket 
and Swift Sugarloaf bag.  Small Sackville Saddlebag.  Three King Cages.  

I will add/repeat that this Atlantis has been used as my commuter for a few 
months now.  I rotate ~5 bikes in this commuter role.  The Atlantis has 
been locked to metal bike racks on the UC Berkeley Campus several times, 
and as such there are plenty of small nicks and scrapes on the paint.  
Definite beausage in my book, but not showroom.  

Bill

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 4:55:56 PM UTC-8, Applegate wrote:
>
> I would very much love to know more about the #4 special. Thanks in 
> advance!
>
> On Wednesday, 5 February 2020 11:43:50 UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> My stable is stocked with a whole bunch of sensational builds.  Executing 
>> sensational builds is maybe my favorite bicycle related activity.  I've got 
>> another build (or two) on the horizon that I want to do, and I'm able to 
>> do, but I just don't have the space to put them once the builds are done.  
>> These builds have a fair bit of overlap and redundancy.  I love them all, 
>> but none of them is entirely indispensable.  So, just in case somebody 
>> wants a slightly used spectacular build for less money and less waiting 
>> than a brand new one, then here's a pizza menu for them.  Rather than make 
>> this a hugely long post with descriptions of each, I'll be super brief and 
>> list what it would cost to relieve me of any of these great bikes.  All of 
>> them fit me perfectly for the application for which they were built, and 
>> I'm 5'10" with a 75.5cm saddle height.
>>
>> 1. Turnkey 57cm Legolas Cyclocross Racing bike:  $4250
>> 2. 59cm Roadeo complete:  $3500
>> 3. Turnkey loaded touring build of a 56cm canti-Sam Hillborne (with 
>> single TT): $3000
>> 4. Monster-commuter, or Swiss-Army-Knife drop-bar, 56cm 650B MIT 
>> Atlantis:  $2600
>> 5. XC Racing carbon hardtail Niner Air9 mountain bike: $4500
>> 6. Deluxe derailer-less two-speed custom Gunnar Crosshairs: $1600
>> 7. Vintage Rossin 650B conversion road bike: $1000
>> 8. Turnkey Eroica 1985 60cm Univega Gran Premio: $500
>> 9. Rosco-Bubbe Road (blue lift-a-tube) complete: $950
>> 10. Niner RLT9 650B Road Plus: $2600
>>
>> If anybody has any interest in one or more of the above, please let me 
>> know.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>

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[RBW] WTB - Paul Melvin

[Collin A]

Heyo,

Just what the subject says, silver would be nice. Let me know if you have 
one stuffed away somewhere!

Background:
I'm moving to Sacramento at the end of the week and if you don't know, its 
flat. I want to convert my Clem to a *S*inglespeed *L*evee *E*xplorer 
*H*illibike 
(SLEH, pronounced like *sleigh*) to help me explore the riding options in 
and around the city of trees. I may end up keeping the 2x chainrings up 
front and running it as a 2x1 (38/24 and 19t rear) to help climb over the 
occasional highway overpass, but that's the fun of moving to a new 
city/area and building/modifying a bike to fit the riding there.

Cheers,
Collin, realizing he has about 4 large home-depot-boxes of bike stuff and 
there might be a FS post from me soon

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[RBW] Re: Ride length on Jitensha/Map type bars? Updated my Redwood.

[David B]

After thinking on this a bit, I think I'm going to have two handlebar 
setups ready to go. I'm going to swap in Mafac Raids (will help with fender 
clearance too) and put on slotted cable stops. With this setup, I'll have 
two handlebar setups with brake cables installed and straddle hangers on 
the ends of the brake cables. I'll just need to remove straddle hangers 
from straddle cable on the Raids and loosen the quill bolt and everything 
should be able to come out in one piece. Shifting is minimal so going to 
stick with downtube shifters. I'm adding aluminum fenders too so might have 
to go full rinko and figure out the split rear fender operation.
Thanks for the input!
David

On Monday, January 27, 2020 at 5:52:35 PM UTC-6, David B wrote:
>
> Out of nothing but curiosity, I put a Jitensha bar setup that was going to 
> go on my Yves Gomez on my Redwood instead. Super comfortable, more so than 
> I remember my previous drop bar setups being. It's currently a single 
> speed, but I'll likely connect a cable to the dt shifter that's on there.
> Question then:
> Other Jitensha/Map type bar setups on road frames?
> How long do you feel comfortable on them? Full day rides?
>
> Here's my current 650b'd setup: 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/B710F-BFJwP/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
>
> David
> River Grove, IL
>

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Re: [RBW] Seat tube length

[Joe Bernard]

"Oh, yeah misread on my part as well. Hmm, I'm not sure one would want shorter 
seat tube on a step through."

That's not actually the point of it, it was offered to Bill as a solution for 
bike sharing. The intention on some models was to have longer ETTs per each 
size frame as a general revamp of the frames. The Clems definitely got longer, 
as was discussed extensively in a thread dedicated to the topic. 

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[RBW] Re: Raid Bill's Stable: Nine bikes available For Sale

[stoker]

PM sent

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 1:43:50 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> My stable is stocked with a whole bunch of sensational builds.  Executing 
> sensational builds is maybe my favorite bicycle related activity.  I've got 
> another build (or two) on the horizon that I want to do, and I'm able to 
> do, but I just don't have the space to put them once the builds are done.  
> These builds have a fair bit of overlap and redundancy.  I love them all, 
> but none of them is entirely indispensable.  So, just in case somebody 
> wants a slightly used spectacular build for less money and less waiting 
> than a brand new one, then here's a pizza menu for them.  Rather than make 
> this a hugely long post with descriptions of each, I'll be super brief and 
> list what it would cost to relieve me of any of these great bikes.  All of 
> them fit me perfectly for the application for which they were built, and 
> I'm 5'10" with a 75.5cm saddle height.
>
> 1. Turnkey 57cm Legolas Cyclocross Racing bike:  $4250
> 2. 59cm Roadeo complete:  $3500
> 3. Turnkey loaded touring build of a 56cm canti-Sam Hillborne (with single 
> TT): $3000
> 4. Monster-commuter, or Swiss-Army-Knife drop-bar, 56cm 650B MIT 
> Atlantis:  $2600
> 5. XC Racing carbon hardtail Niner Air9 mountain bike: $4500
> 6. Deluxe derailer-less two-speed custom Gunnar Crosshairs: $1600
> 7. Vintage Rossin 650B conversion road bike: $1000
> 8. Turnkey Eroica 1985 60cm Univega Gran Premio: $500
> 9. Rosco-Bubbe Road (blue lift-a-tube) complete: $950
> 10. Niner RLT9 650B Road Plus: $2600
>
> If anybody has any interest in one or more of the above, please let me 
> know.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: Raid Bill's Stable: Nine bikes available For Sale

[Andrew Huston]

Bill, could you send over a few photos of the roscoe?

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Re: [RBW] Seat tube length

[Bill Lindsay]

...and it's more versatile as a "guest bike".  With a shorter seat tube I 
could ride it at 5'10" and could loan it to somebody around 5'5" or so with 
the saddle slammed.  With a longer seat tube, I can still ride it but it 
raises the floor on the shortest person who can borrow it.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 8:40:00 AM UTC-8, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> More room for a dropper seatpost :)
>
> Eric
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2020, phil k > 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh, yeah misread on my part as well. Hmm, I'm not sure one would want 
>> shorter seat tube on a step through.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:24:46 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Phil k, the ETT length *is the same* .
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, phil k wrote:

 Like Joe mentioned, the smaller size would have a shorter effective top 
 tube length, thus shortening your reach. He probably mentioned it because 
 maybe you mentioned you intended to run it with drop bars.



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[RBW] Re: New Silver2 Shifters w/ thumb mounts on Blue Lug JP

[Julian Westerhout]

I'd guess that DiaCompe may well be making both the shifters and the 
mounts. As those mounts have been out for a while  I'm guessing they are 
not the Riv-designed ones we're waiting for, but hopefully we'll all find 
out!   



On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 9:49:31 AM UTC-6, Applegate wrote:
>
> Thanks for bringing that up Julian. I see how my subject line may have 
> been imprecise. I saw that ENE demarcation on the mounts, and interpreted 
> the following translated product description as meaning they (either BL or 
> RBW) had requested the mounts be made by Dia-Compe for the XO shifters. 
>
> “Original part number that started the design from scratch. Requested the 
> production of a traditional Osaka component brand DIA-COMPE.” 
>
> The RBW page did guesstimate Feb. 10 for thumb mount arrival, and their 
> bar-end pods for both SiLVER1 and the new shifters “are virtual but 
> ethically produced knock-offs of Shimano bar-end shifter pods.” It seems 
> plausible that they’re collaborating with Dia-Compe to save themselves some 
> time and money in development and prototyping. 
>
> This is my working theory.

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[RBW] Re: Raid Bill's Stable: Nine bikes available For Sale

[phil k]

This is quite the stable you've built up over the years! Your Legolos with 
the matching stem has been one of my favorite builds on this group.

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Re: [RBW] Seat tube length

[Eric Daume]

More room for a dropper seatpost :)

Eric

On Thursday, February 6, 2020, phil k  wrote:

> Oh, yeah misread on my part as well. Hmm, I'm not sure one would want
> shorter seat tube on a step through.
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:24:46 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>>
>>
>> Phil k, the ETT length *is the same* .
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, phil k wrote:
>>>
>>> Like Joe mentioned, the smaller size would have a shorter effective top
>>> tube length, thus shortening your reach. He probably mentioned it because
>>> maybe you mentioned you intended to run it with drop bars.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Seat tube length

[phil k]

Oh, yeah misread on my part as well. Hmm, I'm not sure one would want 
shorter seat tube on a step through.

On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 10:24:46 AM UTC-5, Garth wrote:
>
>
> Phil k, the ETT length *is the same* .
>
>
> On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, phil k wrote:
>>
>> Like Joe mentioned, the smaller size would have a shorter effective top 
>> tube length, thus shortening your reach. He probably mentioned it because 
>> maybe you mentioned you intended to run it with drop bars.
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Seat tube length

[Joe Bernard]

Correct, I didn't say anything about a shorter ETT. It was a misunderstanding 
about a quote in another thread which Bill cleared up. 

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[RBW] Re: New Silver2 Shifters w/ thumb mounts on Blue Lug JP

[Applegate]

Thanks for bringing that up Julian. I see how my subject line may have been 
imprecise. I saw that ENE demarcation on the mounts, and interpreted the 
following translated product description as meaning they (either BL or RBW) had 
requested the mounts be made by Dia-Compe for the XO shifters.

“Original part number that started the design from scratch. Requested the 
production of a traditional Osaka component brand DIA-COMPE.”

The RBW page did guesstimate Feb. 10 for thumb mount arrival, and their bar-end 
pods for both SiLVER1 and the new shifters “are virtual but ethically produced 
knock-offs of Shimano bar-end shifter pods.” It seems plausible that they’re 
collaborating with Dia-Compe to save themselves some time and money in 
development and prototyping.

This is my working theory.

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[RBW] Re: Seat tube length

[Garth]

Phil k, the ETT length *is the same* .


On Thursday, February 6, 2020 at 8:31:40 AM UTC-5, phil k wrote:
>
> Like Joe mentioned, the smaller size would have a shorter effective top 
> tube length, thus shortening your reach. He probably mentioned it because 
> maybe you mentioned you intended to run it with drop bars.
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Seat tube length

[phil k]

Like Joe mentioned, the smaller size would have a shorter effective top 
tube length, thus shortening your reach. He probably mentioned it because 
maybe you mentioned you intended to run it with drop bars.


On Tuesday, February 4, 2020 at 6:48:24 AM UTC-5, Roberta wrote:
>
> I'm learning a lot about bicycles here and was confused about this, from 
> another thread: "I briefly owned a 58cm Betty [Foy] with the intent of 
> running it with drop bars. When I was buying it, Keven asked “do you want 
> to wait for the new 55?  It has the identical numbers, just with the seat 
> tube 3cm shorter”. I’m a 86cm PBH 5’10” Person. If I was running upright 
> bars I’d go bigger. I’m certain I could rock a 55 Betty with drops ". 
>
> Why/how would a shorter seat tube be better/ different if the frame was 
> otherwise the same? I thought one preference for most of us here was to 
> have less seat post showing, but this would give us more. 
>
> This is not for a criticism of how Riv makes their bikes, just wanting 
> more understanding of frames. 
>
> Roberta

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[RBW] Re: New Silver2 Shifters w/ thumb mounts on Blue Lug JP

[Julian Westerhout]

Those are mounted on the Dia Compe ENE mounts, not the new Riv mounts. 

The shifters themselves are available now from Riv in the US. IK do not 
believe that the Riv mounts are available from Blue Lug or anyone else just 
yet...

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 


On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 10:40:09 PM UTC-6, Applegate wrote:
>
> They’re up and they’re beautiful! Not for US sale just yet, however! 
>
> https://store.bluelug.com/rivendell-s-2-thumb-shifter.html

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[RBW] Riv Atlantis MTB Video

[Ryan M.]

Great video, thanks for posting it. Looks like lovely trail...mostly smoothed 
out and flowy. Looks like fun.

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[RBW] Re: 69 cm A Homer Hilsen for $1100 on eBay (not mine)

['Mark E' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I couldn't see how it could get better but it just did. I like the changes.

I am curious about the difference between Toyo and Waterford frames. I just 
bought a blue AHH from a list member that has 3 water bottle mounts.


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Re: [RBW] FS: 55 cm Betty Foy

[Mark Roland]

In my defense, it was actually only a frame and fork, which I needed to 
sell before I could build it up and try it. Turns out the guy I sold it to 
never built it either, so...

On Wednesday, February 5, 2020 at 8:33:28 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Thanks, Tom! I do love Rivendell. 
>
> Mark - hmmm...playing pokerwhy wouldn’t you play with me? I clearly 
> have no poker face (spills guts all over emotional video, thinks out loud 
> about dumb plans to buy back bike). I wouldn’t stand a chance . Bike 
> obsessed - well, I’m pretty bad but you’ve got it worse. You bought your 
> own bike BACK??? 
>
> Bill Lindsay is selling a slew of bikes over on his thread. Bill! Did you 
> need me to make some sappy videos for your 9 bikes??? I’m here! 
>
> Ah, you all are fun, 
> Leah

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